1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: But the race is over. He will be Joe Biden's challenger. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: Well before securing a resounding victory in South Carolina over 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: Nicki Haley, former President Trump ways did no time sending 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: his sits on November, taking center stage at the Conservative 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 2: Political Action Conference commonly known as SEAPAC, Trump's address steered 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: clear of any mention of his Republican rival Nicki Haley. Instead, 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: though he directed all of his attention squarely at President Biden, 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: delivering stark warnings and bold promises for America's future. 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 3: A vote for Trump is your ticket back to freedom. 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 3: It's your passport out of tyranny, and it's your only 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 3: escape from Joe Biden and his gang's fast track to hell. 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: November fifth will be our new Liberation Day. 13 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 4: But for the liars and cheaters and fraudsters and censors 14 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 4: and impostors who have commandeered our government, it will be 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 4: their judgment day. 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: Scripts News political contributor and founder of the Warning podcast 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: and Substack newsletter, Steve Schmidt joining us now. Pleasure to 18 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: have you on board here at Script's News, and it 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: is always good to talk to you, and no shortage 20 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: of news to get to. 21 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 5: I'm just wondering. 22 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: We'll start there with that SoundBite when you hear former 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: President Trump say about Judgment Day and putting this in 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: really dramatic terms, your escape from from hell. And we 25 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: said months ago, I will be your retribution. When you 26 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: put together some of these rhetorical flourishes, I guess we 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: can call them what do you What do you make 28 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: of it? 29 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: Well, first off, good morning, and it's a real pleasure 30 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: to be joining the scripts team. I think that it's 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: important to understand how profoundly these remarks deviate from anything 32 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: that has ever been said by any person who has 33 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: ever been in a positiondition to be elected president of 34 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: the United States. Donald Trump is both a former president 35 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: and the presumptive nominee, and what he did all weekend 36 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: is make a series of attacks comparing the political opposition 37 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: to him in America to the Nazi Germans of World 38 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: War Two, calling for the destruction of his opposition, calling 39 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: for retribution against any American who dares to assert their 40 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: God given rights to oppose him. 41 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 5: So the rhetoric that we're saying is. 42 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: A threat to the constitution, to the country, to the 43 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: political opposition. When you have a candidate who's talking about 44 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: people as vermin, dehumanizing them and threatening punishment if they 45 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: impede his path to power. Important to understand that we 46 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: are in unchartered territory, and that on chartered territory is 47 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: disorienting people. 48 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 5: They don't know what to think about it. 49 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: They don't know what to call it, they don't know 50 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: what to name it. But what's gathering is dangerous and menacing, 51 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: and it's coming closer. 52 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: You do believe. And I don't ask this this lightly. 53 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: I don't think it's a light matter at all. I 54 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: think actually is an existential matter. Do you really see 55 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: comparisons between what Donald Trump is saying and what Hitler said? 56 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: Well, the language of dehumanization when you look at a 57 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: political opponent, you look at a minority group, and you 58 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: make them less than you promise punishment. 59 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 5: I think it's very important to understand that. 60 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: Adolph Hitler in nineteen twenty eight high way ter mark 61 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: electorally for the Nazis, excuse me, nineteen thirty the high 62 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: water mark for the Nazis. Nineteen thirty two, the year 63 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: he took power. He ran on a platform of restoring 64 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: order from chaos. He ran against inflation, he ran against 65 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: enemies who were subverting the popular will and the majority 66 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: of the country from his telling. So this language of dehumanization, 67 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: of blaming, of threatening, I think it is important to 68 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: take Donald Trump literally and seriously, or at least explore 69 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: the matter further. 70 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 5: When he talks. 71 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: About mass mass detention camps, mass concentration camps, think about 72 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: the police state tactics that would be necessary to deport 73 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: the amounts of people that he's talking about. So it 74 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: is very important to compare the speeches that Trump is 75 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: given with those speeches that were given eighty years ago, 76 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: and any academic comparison between the two will find commonalities 77 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: and easy, easy analogies between the two men. 78 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 5: Remember Adolf Hitler. 79 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: In nineteen twenty eight, nineteen thirty, nineteen thirty two. 80 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 5: Is it to Hitler? 81 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: We remember what built and what gathered. What was unleashed 82 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: was a massive inhumanity. But in the end he did 83 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: nothing that he didn't say he was going to do 84 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: in the first place. And we should listen to Trump's 85 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: words very carefully here because of that lesson from history. 86 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: And back to the role politics of the moment. Why 87 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: is NICKI Haley hanging around? 88 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 5: Do you think. 89 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to the question. It's really 90 00:05:54,560 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: a psychological question because at this point, as a practical matter, Nicki, 91 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: who by the way, has not pulled back her comment 92 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: from the first debate that no matter what, she'll support 93 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. So she's hanging in a race that she 94 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: has no chance of winning in any primary contest from 95 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: here to the end, against a man that she simultaneously 96 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: pledges devotional support to while condemning him as an existential threat. 97 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: So it is an incoherent campaign intellectually morally because its 98 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: essence is undermined every day by her warnings about Trump. 99 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 5: But the race is over, and Donald Trump has. 100 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: Achieved what he needs to to be considered the party's 101 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: presumptive nominee. He will be Joe Biden's challenger. 102 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: One more question before we go. We know that the 103 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: Supreme Court is poised to play perhaps the most pivotal 104 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: role in a national election since Bush v. Gore back 105 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: in the days of Florida and Hanging chads in two thousand, 106 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 2: on both the issue of absolute presidential immunity and whether 107 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: Trump can appear on the ballot. Do you have what 108 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: are your expectations for what the Court may do? 109 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: I think that the tea leaves on this are clear. 110 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: The Court will deny the ludicrous notion that an American 111 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: president has absolute immunity for his actions and is incapable 112 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: of committing illegal acts, and they will also not take 113 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: Donald Trump off of the ballot. This will be a 114 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: choice for the American people to make in November. It 115 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: will not be decided in the courts, and that is 116 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: what the Supreme Court is going to rule. 117 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: Script's News political contributor and founder of The Warning, Steve Schman, 118 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: thanks so much for giving us some time again, welcome 119 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: to the Script's News team. Really really good to have 120 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: you on board. I have a feeling we will have 121 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: some robust tosscussions between now in November. 122 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 5: To put it quite mildly, Thank you, sir, take care, 123 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 5: Thank you, and. 124 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: We do want our viewer us and know. 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