1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting next to the one and 3 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: only West Hodko. Wits were coming to you here from 4 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: our studios at lambeau Field West. A couple of things 5 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: I want to follow up on from Sunday's Green Bay 6 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: thirty victory down in Dallas that we didn't get to 7 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: on yesterday's show. We kind of had to hustle and 8 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: rush out of here because we had interviews in the 9 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: locker room to get to. So following up. The Packers 10 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: had to dig a little deeper into their depth chart 11 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: in this game than maybe they have for the first 12 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: four games of the regular season. And it wasn't just 13 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: because Davante Adams was out at wide receiver and Jamal 14 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: Williams was out at unning back, but in the defensive 15 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: backfield and on the offensive line, we saw some pretty 16 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: exemplary performances by chan Chandon Sullivan excuse me, who got 17 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: a key interception in the first half of the Packers, 18 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: and then by Lucas Patrick filling in for Corey Lindsley 19 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: at center. Um. These are the kinds of performances that 20 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: they go under the radar a little bit, but they 21 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: really are the the unsung hero type of performances that 22 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: help you pull out big road wins. So I'm not 23 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: asking you to praise me here, I'm really not. But 24 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: what did I tell you from like the end of July, 25 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: beginning of August, what was one of my big things? 26 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: I really thought Shannon Sullivan was a player? Yeah, you did. 27 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: I was about this guy. And there was a couple 28 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: of reasons why. One, he's really smart, and I think 29 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: you gotta feel for that yesterday being in his group huddle. Yeah, 30 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's incredible if you know his backstory 31 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: at all, I mean three point eight whatever, g p 32 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: A Georgia State, Georgia State, the way his family pushed him. 33 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: I mean, football is a big part of who he is, 34 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: but it's not the only thing about who he is. 35 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: And I just was really you know, the interactions I 36 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: had with him during training camp, but just was really 37 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: fascinated by him as an individual. But even more than that, 38 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what the Philadelphia Eagles were thinking 39 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: back in May when they released him, because this is 40 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: a guy who played five games for them last year 41 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: as an undrafted free agent, started one game for him, 42 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: and you know, they made a decision right after the 43 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: draft that he evidently was on that nine bubble where 44 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: they bring in some undrafted rookies, they moved on from him. 45 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: You don't see that a lot um not necessary that 46 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: that you don't stick with guys, but the fact that 47 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: you you have a guy that plays for you is 48 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: up for five six weeks and then you just decided 49 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: to move on. So he falls right in the Green 50 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: Bay Packers lap. And I thought throughout training camp he 51 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: displayed a lot of versatility, thought he showed a lot 52 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: of athleticism. And now given this opportunity in this game 53 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: playing the nickel slot position with all the injuries that 54 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: had mold in the secondary, he steps up in a 55 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: big way and makes a really key leaping interception um 56 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: in one of three that the Packers were able to 57 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: get off of Dak Prescott. I've really been impressed by 58 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: him as a player, and I just think that this 59 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: was sort of the manifestation of that in that game 60 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. Well, he's certainly the perfect example of 61 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: why and how a personnel department scouts the entire league. 62 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: They have their files on everybody when they're coming out 63 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: for the draft. The guys get drafted, other guys go undrafted, 64 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: but they're around other teams, and then the pro scouts 65 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: take over and they're scouting these guys, and when guys 66 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: that they like become available for whatever reason, whatever reason, 67 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: it didn't work out in Philadelphia, the Packers pounced on 68 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: Channon Sullivan. They brought him in, They gave him a 69 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: chance to compete in a very competitive defensive backfield, as 70 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: as we saw throughout training camp. But what we also 71 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: saw is how many defensive backs the Packers kept on 72 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster, specifically four situations like this 73 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: where you went into the game aim not knowing if 74 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: Kevin King was going to play. Tony Brown you knew 75 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: was going to be out with his hamstring injury. So 76 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: you're digging into that depth chart a little bit, and 77 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: here's Chandon Sullivan, who, Yes, the main part of his 78 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: story is that he was an undrafted player who has 79 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: had to take the hard road to the NFL. But 80 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: as you said, West, it wasn't like walking out there 81 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: against the Dallas Cowboys that he was some rookie who 82 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: hadn't done this before. He had NFL experience, and the 83 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: Packers have a little bit more of that, and we'll 84 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: talk about it with Lucas Patrick as well at center. 85 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: The Packers have more of that in their depth chart 86 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: now then maybe we've seen in the last couple of years. Absolutely, 87 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: And I got to tip my captain Tom silverseein from 88 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. I was in a group huddle 89 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: with him talking to Jason Simmons, the Packers secondary coach, 90 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: on Monday. He was actually the one that brought this 91 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: question up before. I did you know in these previous years, 92 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: there was a lot of times where the Packers, if 93 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: an injury happens, they have to turn to an undrafted rookie, 94 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: a legitimate like first year player. The way that they've 95 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: configured this depth chart this year, and it is probably 96 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: the reason why you saw it not as many undrafted 97 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: rookies make the team this year was because Will Redmond 98 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: is in his third NFL season. He's the backup safety 99 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: now Chandon Sullivan makes the roster. They're at cornerback as 100 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: a guy that already has one year under his belt. 101 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: These are both guys that have not only you know, 102 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: been through an NFL camp before but they've actually played 103 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: in NFL regular season games before, so when they get 104 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: thrown into those situations, it's not just completely you know, 105 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: wide open in terms of their eyes and trying to 106 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: adapt and adjust on the fly. They've been through some 107 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: of these scenarios. So I think that was one thing 108 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: that really lifted the Packers in this game. The fact that, Okay, 109 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: you have a guy like Will Redmond that you feel 110 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: confident in. You can put him on the back end. 111 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: You can slide up Adrian Amos into the box to 112 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: play closer to the line of scrimmage. You can put 113 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: Channon Sullivan in at nickel cornerback, you can slide him around. 114 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: You know. Jason Simmons said this was all by design, 115 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: the way that they designed these things in training camp. 116 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: He wanted to give these guys opportunities to make the 117 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: roster by showing versatility. But through that you start to 118 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: understand what these guys can really handle. Yeah. Well, and 119 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: give credit to Channon Sullivan too, for a key play 120 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. It didn't work out in the 121 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: Packers favor. Excuse me, but he was all over Randall 122 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: Cobb and slot on the pass into the end zone 123 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: that was a little bit high and got tipped and 124 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: that Redmond picked off in the back of the end zone. 125 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: Off the deflection ended up getting wiped out by a 126 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: penalty and the Packers did not get the turnover. But 127 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: that was another play that Sullivan made, you know, guarding 128 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: a veteran accomplished wide receiver obviously in Randall Cobb, and 129 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: I took my cap to him for the celebration after 130 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: his interception. He talked about this at his locker, that 131 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: he did the slide on the knees into the end 132 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: zone and and you know, stretched out his arms before 133 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: the rest of his teammates came around him. And that 134 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: was a tribute to Nick Collins and his pick six 135 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: in Super Bowl forty five in that same stadium. And 136 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: he talked about how there's that picture of Collins is 137 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: actually on kind of right on the corner of the 138 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: outside of the cafeteria near the player's entrance when they 139 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: when they enter and leave the building on a daily basis, 140 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 1: So he'd seen that picture. And I forget what grade 141 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: he said he was in when he was watching, want 142 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: to say it was like seventh or eight or something 143 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: like that. He was pretty young, but but he he 144 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: did watch he saw that Super Bowl live and saw 145 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: that play, and then seeing the picture of that from 146 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: a T and T stadium in the Packers player entrance area, 147 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: he decided, Okay, well if I get one at a 148 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: T and T stadium, I'll I'll tip my cap to 149 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: Nick Colin. I really wish I could be a fly 150 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: on the wall in these defensive back meetings when they're 151 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: talking about what they want to do for celebrations. That 152 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: was one thing Sullivan said. Basically, the veterans had already 153 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: talked to him about, Okay, if you make a play, 154 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: you gotta be ready to celebrate somehow. You've been thinking 155 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: about that and these are the things that goes through 156 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: guys minds Um, I thought a really nice homage to 157 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: that play, um and just understanding of history there. I mean, 158 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: you can tell that was something that wasn't just like 159 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: he was trying to do it just to do it. 160 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: He knew what that play meant and to be able 161 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: to kind of celebrate in that way I thought was 162 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: really special. Jannon Sullivan, I think is gonna have a 163 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: bright future here in Green Bay. But Mike, we have 164 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: to talk about Lucas Patrick. I mean, what a mention 165 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: this guy is. I mean, you wrote a story about 166 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: it on packers dot Com. You're not going to tout 167 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: your horns, so I'll tute it for you. It's an 168 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 1: incredible look not only into the relationship between Lucas Patrick 169 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers, but also the thing that really strikes 170 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: me about that story, Lucas Patrick, when it's all said 171 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: and done for him, he's going to go down as 172 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: one of the real true undrafted success stories in Green Bay. 173 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: And you know, you can talk about your story a 174 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: little bit, but it's incredible to me that Corey Lensley 175 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: plays consecutive snaps spanning two and a half almost three seasons, 176 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: and here's Lucas Patrick, who never played center in college. 177 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: He's suddenly thrust into that role where you're snapping to 178 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and just hearing and learning about their relationship 179 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: and and everything that's gone into it. It's, uh, it's 180 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: really neat. It's it's really cool that that that that 181 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: story really struck a chord with me. Yeah. Well, the 182 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:11,359 Speaker 1: story kind of starts back at the beginning of Patrick's 183 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: second season in Green Bay, which technically ended up being 184 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: his first season as an NFL player because his rookie 185 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: year he was on the practice squad, so he didn't 186 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: get on a crude season um in terms of free 187 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: agency status and whatnot. But he's in his second preseason 188 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: with the Packers in the summer of and his mom 189 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: is visiting from out of town and one day, kind 190 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: of random training camp day, whatever the case might be, 191 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: Patrick and his mom are leaving the players parking lot 192 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: in his mom's Ford Escape and Rogers an early two 193 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: thousand four escape, so this vehicle is probably fifteen fifteen 194 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: years old something like that. Rogers, completely out of the blue, 195 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: is walking through the players parking lot and he walks 196 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: up to the vehicle and he knocks on the window 197 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: and has Patrick's mom like rolled down the window so 198 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: that he can introduce himself to his teammates mom. Now, 199 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: mind you, this is a guy who has done nothing 200 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: but spend one year on the practice squad, hasn't been 201 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: on a regular season field in the NFL yet, hasn't 202 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: really taken any legitimate snaps with Aaron Rodgers as an 203 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: offensive lineman at this point. But Rogers knows that Patrick 204 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: was raised pretty much by his mom uh solo. She 205 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: raised two kids and uh Um and Patrick ended up 206 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: going to Duke where he had a really nice career 207 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: as a Duke Blue Devil before making his way into 208 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: the NFL. And Patrick was kind of blown away by that, 209 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: by just the fact that Rogers would strike up a 210 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: conversation introduce himself to his mom, and then fast forward 211 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: now to training camp in twenty nineteen. Patrick is taking 212 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: on a lot of duties at Center that he's not 213 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: necessarily used to because his two years on the active 214 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: roster he had pretty much played guard, had started about 215 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: a half dozen games as a backup. He's fighting to 216 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: make the roster again in twenty nineteen and not things 217 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: maybe not going the best in terms of adjusting to 218 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: the scheme and all the stuff he's being asked to 219 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: do at Center to back up Lindsley and everything. He's 220 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: kind of down during training camp and one day at lunch, 221 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers sits down at the lunch table with him 222 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: and just to have a conversation and see how he's doing, 223 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: try to, you know, give him a pep talk or 224 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: something like that for lack of a better term, And 225 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: Rogers didn't say much from what it sounds like, but 226 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: the conversation meant everything to Lucas Patrick. He he's like 227 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback kind of has my back and believes in 228 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: me here. And Patrick was then asked, we were a 229 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: group of reporters, we were talking to him yesterday in 230 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: the locker room. He's asked, well, then when did things 231 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: start to turn around for you and training him, because 232 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: obviously then he made the team and he is the 233 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: backup center on this team. And his answer was the 234 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: turnaround was immediate. He says, when you feel like number 235 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: twelve has your back, it's like the whole state of 236 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: Wisconsin has your back. And the boost of confidence that 237 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: that gave him, and just getting that reminder from Rogers 238 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: that hey, you've played in this league, you've proven you 239 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: belong here. Just go out do your thing and be you. 240 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: It'll it'll take care of itself, because you know, he's 241 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: got the toughness, he's got the smarts, he's got the 242 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: work ethic, everything like that. And it has worked out. 243 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, Patrick gets thrown into 244 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: a game against the Cowboys nine people a T and 245 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: T Stadium. He's never played center in an NFL game 246 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: before regular season game and the Packers offense quite frankly, 247 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: doesn't skip a beat three or four points. Um. Yes, 248 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: a couple of snaps that were shotgun snaps that were 249 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: off target. Fortunately Aaron Jones was able to catch him 250 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: and still make positive plays. Those are the things that 251 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: Patrick is going to work on. But but his relationship 252 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: with Rogers is really interesting, and it's it's illustrative of 253 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: how young players who have fought the hard road to 254 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: get where they are in the NFL, what veteran players 255 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: can do for them in certain situations, and also what 256 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers means to uh to the locker room in general. 257 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: Patrick couldn't say enough about how much Rodgers has gone 258 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: out of his way in certain instances to not only 259 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: do that for him, but for others in the locker 260 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: room as well. And it was just really really interesting 261 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: getting the insights from an incredibly smart, incredibly tough, and 262 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: incredibly humble player like Lucas. So so many different layers 263 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: to this. The first thing I just want to touch 264 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: on very quickly, because it's a very small part of 265 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: a bigger story, is that I really appreciated the way 266 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: that Lucas went about telling this because he even kind 267 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: of warned you guys when you were in the huddle, 268 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: like you got a minute? You know, there's only so 269 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: much time. I don't think it only hears though I'm 270 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: covering this team. I've ever had a player asked the 271 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: media do you have him minute? Like do you have 272 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: a minute? Um? But the reason I want to point 273 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: this out is whatever outside narratives maybe, and there's been 274 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: a lot thrown out in the last few years, there 275 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: is one opinion, one relationship, one reality that truly matters. 276 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: And it's what Lucas Patrick feels, It's what Davante Adams feels, 277 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: It's what that locker room feels amongst each other, not 278 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: just with the quarterback, with everyone. That's the only thing 279 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: that matters, regardless of what the outside sentiment might be, 280 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: because the thing is is that outside sentiment a lot 281 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: of times is thrown out there to create discussion, to 282 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: create narratives, to create conversation. But be that as it may, 283 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: your word exactly. But what happens behind those closed doors 284 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: in the cafeteria, in those interactions, that's what matters on Sunday. 285 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: That's what matters to that team, to that camaraderie, that chemistry. Yeah, 286 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: I think the thing that struck me the most about 287 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: Patrick's story in terms of in terms of the perspective, 288 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: is that when we see whether it's Aaron Rodgers talking 289 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: to mattel Floor or Aaron Rodgers talking to another guy 290 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: in the huddle on the field or after a play 291 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: or some reaction, that's that's heated, that's emotional, that's in 292 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: the in the heat of battle, when things are tense 293 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: and and and things are intense. Those are the things 294 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: that everybody analyzes in terms of leadership and all these 295 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: other narratives that we're talking about. It's the stuff that 296 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: goes on in the cafeteria, in the locker room, behind 297 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: closed doors that paints the entire picture. And if you 298 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: don't know the entire picture, your analysis, quite frankly, isn't 299 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: worth a whole lot. And what Patrick's story reminded me 300 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: of is they're the interactions on the field. And he 301 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: even said he was asked, you know, what, what did 302 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: Rogers say about those bad snaps? And he's like, get 303 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: a snap to me, you know, like it's pretty simple, 304 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: like this is what you gotta do, and that's the 305 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: reaction on the field. But a player like Patrick can 306 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: take that and he said, I'll respond positively to that 307 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: on the field because of the relationship that's been built 308 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: elsewhere that people don't necessarily see. And so what I 309 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: wanted to try to do in the story, and I 310 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: hope I accomplished it, is to show that it's the 311 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: entire picture of the relationship with these players that really matters, 312 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: and as you said, it's ultimately their opinion is the 313 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: only one that matters, because they're the only ones who 314 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: know the whole story right absolutely. The second part I 315 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: just want to touch on very quickly about this, looking 316 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: strictly at Lucas Patrick, is this is the maturation of 317 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: an NFL football player. He's no longer a tryout guy. 318 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: He's no longer an undrafted free agent. He's no longer 319 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: a practice squad player. He's an NFL player now. And 320 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: I think Lucas understands that and he appreciates that, and 321 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: that's the reason why he was feeling the way he 322 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: felt in the cafeteria that day. This was a tough 323 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: training camp for Lucas Patrick um competitively personally, you know, 324 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: Justin mccraize is one of his best friends on this planet. 325 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: Justin mccraie isn't here anymore. And the reality is is 326 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: that he got traded in in you know, Domino's Fall, 327 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: and that's life. Yeah, incredibly competitive offensive line training camp 328 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: here for roster said it all along. I felt like 329 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: this was the deepest that I've covered in my time 330 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: in Green Bay. But here's the thing about Lucas Patrick 331 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: is he wants to get better, he wants to be proved, 332 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: and he's had this chip on his shoulder. I mean 333 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: it comes from when you have one tryout offer, you 334 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: don't even have any undrafted contracts out there. You have 335 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: one tryout offer and it's from and it's from Green Bay. 336 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: And then after that tryout weekend, you don't get a 337 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: contract offer for another month or so exactly. And it 338 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: goes home and he's thinking, he's going looking at the 339 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: next phase of his life. And here he is now 340 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: in his third NFL season, his third official NFL season, 341 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: and now he's snapping Aaron Rodgers. I mean the steps 342 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: that he's taken there, there is no I tweeted this 343 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: when I tweeted your story on Tuesday night. Sorry, I'll 344 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: mix up with my schedule. Yeah, I tweeted this out. 345 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna be hard pressed to find anyone more real 346 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: than Lucas Patrick. And I think that's one reason why 347 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: when it's all said and done, he's gonna have a 348 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: bright future ahead of him in this league. Yeah, and 349 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: this is one of those guys. He's he's one of 350 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: the first guys to defend a teammate. He's one of 351 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: the first guys to throw himself into a scrum if 352 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: something's going on, whether it's in a game or whether 353 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: it's in a training camp, practice, and and whatnot. And 354 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: now we'll see moving forward, Corey Lindsley is in the 355 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: concussion protocol. We'll see what happens if he's able to 356 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: get cleared and ready to go from Monday night against 357 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: the Lions, or if Lucas Patrick will end up getting 358 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: his first NFL start at um At Center, Select Cousin 359 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: Subs locations West are now offering delivery. 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The one, the most 365 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 1: significant one affecting the Packers occurred across the pond in London, 366 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: a really interesting ball game as the Oakland Raiders jumped 367 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: out to a seventeen to nothing lead on the Chicago Bears. 368 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: The Bears came all the way back to take a 369 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: twenty one to seventeen lead in the fourth quarter, and 370 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: then lo and behold that Bears defense somehow, and I'm 371 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: not quite sure how this happens with a defense that good, 372 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: but they allowed the Oakland Raiders to go ninety seven 373 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: yards for what turned out to be the game winning 374 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: touchdown in the fourth quarter, and the Bears dropped to 375 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: three and two. The Packers are four and one, and 376 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: that is why the Packers are in sole possession of 377 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: first place in the NFC. Know, well, these are the 378 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: I always call them the gotta have them games, And 379 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: what I mean by that is there's no positive implications 380 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: of that result other than the Bears losing. And that's 381 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: that's the outcome if you're cheering for the Green Bay Packers. 382 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: When you see those inner those in truck conference games, 383 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: that right, or inter conference games. But I always just 384 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: say cross conferences because then I don't have to worry about. 385 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: I like cross conference prefixes correct, but when it's when 386 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: you're going against THEFC, you want the FC to win absolutely. 387 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: And I'll say this right now, I'll put this out 388 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: there about John Gruden's team. They still have a lot 389 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: of work to do. Josh Jacobs is gonna be a 390 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: really talented running back in this year, in this league 391 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: for years to come. David Derek Carr, they established him 392 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: as their franchise quarterback, but I think they got a 393 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: run with Jacobs now. And to see him have that 394 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: kind of showing against that defense, Um, that's how you 395 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: get to it. That's how you beat a dominant defense. 396 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: You have to be able to run against it. The 397 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: Raiders did that overseas, and now the Chicago Bears have 398 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: some questions to answer. Yeah, and the Bears get now 399 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: get a bye week coming off of the travel to London. 400 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: They get a bye week to stew about a game 401 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: that they felt they had their backup quarterback Chase Daniel 402 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: getting him close to field goal range to potentially tie 403 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: it at the end and get it to overtime. He 404 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: throws an interception and uh and the Bears take their 405 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: second loss of the season. We did see the Minnesota Vikings. 406 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: Turns out their show does travel. They got their first 407 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: they got their first road win of the year. Um 408 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: the defense really clamped down on Daniel Jones, the rookie 409 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: quarterback for the Giants. New York only scores ten points. 410 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: Minnesota gets big games out of Adam Theland and Dalvin 411 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: Cook despite all the distraction wherever you want to call 412 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: it that's going on with Stefon Diggs, but Adam Theland 413 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: and Dalvin Cook looking like the real go to guys 414 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: for Kirk Coz. They had to be what did I 415 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: say last week? You have to be able to throw 416 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 1: against the New York Giants. You just have to be 417 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: able to do that if you're going to legitimately be 418 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: able to say you're turning this thing around. That was 419 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: probably the performance they needed. It's sort of like that 420 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: tune up fight a little bit, right, I mean, you 421 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: just kind of get your your momentum back, you get 422 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,239 Speaker 1: your gusto back a little bit. They got it out 423 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: of that game and also helped them that the Giants 424 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: lost Wayne Gelman and that sort of had been that 425 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: Barkley replacement. Without that, right, they were already thout Barkley, 426 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: Can I close on one thing? Yeah, San Francisco forty Niners, 427 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: man are really legit. I was that that was the 428 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: next one I was gonna ask you, But I know 429 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: that's a an opponent further down the road for the Packers. 430 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: This week it's the Detroit Lions who are coming off 431 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: of bye at the to one on one Mark and 432 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: we'll talk about them quite a bit on tomorrow's show. 433 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: But yes, the San Francisco forty owners don't look now 434 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: they're four and oh and they're looking awfully tough. I've 435 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: said this to a buddy of mine watching the game 436 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: on Monday night. They are the Tim Duncan in the 437 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: NFL right now. They are the big fundamental Uh. They 438 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: don't do stuff that's gonna wow you. Jimmy Garoppolo does 439 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: have his weak spots, but they are a well oiled 440 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: machine and they play to the scheme that Kyle Shanahan has. 441 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: Now they're gonna be challenged here if Kyle Ustcheck is 442 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: going to be out a month or whatever that knee. 443 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: Indrey ends up being yeah, very very dynamic fullback and 444 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: a guy who's been a key to that offensive scheme 445 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: and production in two thousand nineteen. It's so strange when 446 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: you can actually say, I mean, he is the fullback 447 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: that makes that offense work, that's the run game work. 448 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: He makes their outside zone work out. Uh. And George 449 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: Kittle was at the peak of his powers in that performance. Defensively, 450 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got a boast. Is just a different 451 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: type of player, and he's a beast. Cleveland has issues 452 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: on their offensive line right now, but for them to 453 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: get the penetration that they got, they are just a 454 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: well oiled machine right now. And it's gonna be fun 455 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: to watch them see where this season goes and what 456 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: potentially the implications of that game in San Francisco could be, 457 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: or technically San Jose when the Packers meet them in November. Yeah, 458 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: I mean coming up, the Packers will be traveling out 459 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: West to play the forty Niners, and we have yet 460 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: to see the forty Niners play either of their contending 461 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: division rivals in the Rams or the Seahawks. Those are 462 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: four games to forty Niners Rams games to forty nine 463 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: Seahawks games that are coming up here over the course 464 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: of the next three months that a lot of people 465 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: are going to be watchings. I get a kick out 466 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: of this one too. Next week he got the forty 467 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: Niners and Rams play. So it's next week, and I 468 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: think it's like a regional television game, Like if I 469 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: undertood that correctly, let's see here, Yeah, what is it? 470 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: Is it? The Giants know which one is. There's there's 471 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: a really bad like game in meanwhile, like the people 472 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: in California are gonna be able to watch and Rams play. 473 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: They're defending NFC champs against an undefeated forty Niners team, 474 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be hardly any portion of the country 475 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: that gets to watch. It's Cowboys versus Jets as the 476 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: national game. Oh boy, wow, but that's gonna be great. 477 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: There's gonna be some great NFC West matchups coming here. Yeah. 478 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think that that is. That is 479 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: a division too, That is a division to watch because 480 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: those teams are gonna have much like the NFC North 481 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: teams we've been talking about, They're gonna be a lot 482 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: of games as we go along here with with playoff implications, 483 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: because I think we're already seeing there are going to 484 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: be some good teams in the NFC that are not 485 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: going to make the playoffs because it's it's just that competitive. 486 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: Yesterday you were talking about, you know, the NFC East, 487 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: and you know how you had Philadelphia and Dallas both competing. 488 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: I mean, if you get enough losses, you're gonna be 489 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: behind the driver's seat there too. So right now, the 490 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: North and the West are driving this thing and the 491 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: Packers have to keep pace. Yeah, alright, with that, we'll 492 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. 493 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the 494 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: team on Packers dot com. Subscribed to us, like us 495 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: on iTunes and other podcast services. Please on Twitter, He's 496 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: at West Had I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers for 497 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: the team account. Thanks for tuning in, everybody. We'll see 498 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: you next time.