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Speaker 3: A fifty two yarder.
Speaker 2: He tied it up with a fifty eight yarder as
Speaker 2: the Lions rally to beat the Texans twenty six, twenty three.
Speaker 2: Jared Goff through five one, two, three, four, five interceptions,
Speaker 2: So sinko sinko interceptions. This one is gonna hurt because
Speaker 2: there's no way you're supposed to lose a game, Ohoe
Speaker 2: at home when the opposing teams turns it over five times.
Speaker 2: Houston held a twenty three to seven lead at the break,
Speaker 2: only to watch it evaporate. The Texans lost three of
Speaker 2: the last four games, fall to six and fourth, six
Speaker 2: and four. There's still a top the LC South, and
Speaker 2: they're getting new kill Ko Collins back next week, which
Speaker 2: should help. But Nico wasn't the reason why they lost him.
Speaker 2: Not having him wasn't the reason. Big question about this team,
Speaker 2: Steily remains after tonight, Yeah, you gotta win this game.
Speaker 3: On Joe.
Speaker 1: You have to.
Speaker 3: You're at home, you're up.
Speaker 2: But cj Bro, you can't come out out of halftime
Speaker 2: and throw a pick oh Joe. How many times a people,
Speaker 2: a fan, a listening audience, I'm youwing audio, how many
Speaker 2: times have you heard O Joe and I say, if
Speaker 2: you're late with that out ball, it's gonna get picked
Speaker 2: if the guy can catch. Now, if he can catch,
Speaker 2: he's gonna pick it. If he can't catch, you're gonna
Speaker 2: knock it down. But it's not gonna be in completion.
Speaker 2: When you late, he's off. He's in a clue position.
Speaker 2: So that tells you automatically you can't be late with it,
Speaker 2: right because.
Speaker 3: He driving, O Joe, He's already that way he driving.
Speaker 5: And if anything, if you're gonna, if you're gonna miss,
Speaker 5: don't miss inside, miss wide and outside.
Speaker 3: It's not it's incomplete out of bounds.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you got to be one of the other
Speaker 5: You can't. You can't leave it inside. It is one
Speaker 5: other way.
Speaker 2: Gift card and Davis a lot of credit because he
Speaker 2: Doe made a heck go play on the ball. He
Speaker 2: had two outstanding interceptions. I don't know why cj on
Speaker 2: the second. The first interception put so much air on it, Joe,
Speaker 2: What does he think that that Carlton David was gonna
Speaker 2: give up on the plate?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You know what I think? Was it the pressure
Speaker 1: you think.
Speaker 3: He had? He rolled out of the pocket. He threw
Speaker 3: in the end zone.
Speaker 1: That Carlton Davis got that.
Speaker 2: There was no pressure on him. He had an easy throw.
Speaker 2: He even directed and told me. And I don't know
Speaker 2: why he didn't put put it more on the line
Speaker 2: because Carlton David sees that his beat, so he's running
Speaker 2: full speed. The last thing you wanted to do is
Speaker 2: have an opportunity to break that ball up when he's
Speaker 2: that wide open. I know you don't want to overshoot him,
Speaker 2: but you got to put it more on the line. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we still have more questions than answers about the Houston Texans. Uh.
Speaker 2: They've lost three of the last four. The turnovers are
Speaker 2: starting to mount. CJ is starting to turn the ball
Speaker 2: over a lot more than than he even did last year.
Speaker 2: And they're good team. They're a really good team that
Speaker 2: didn't run the ball particularly well tonight. Give Detroit a
Speaker 2: credit because they got a good defensive front. Now that
Speaker 2: was they played that game without z Zadarius Smith. But
Speaker 2: when you look at McNeil and Pascal, they they clawed
Speaker 2: that middle. They do a great job of collapsing interior.
Speaker 2: Now when they get z gonna heat off the edge.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's gonna especially on passing downs.
Speaker 2: And their secondary is improving game by game. Branch and
Speaker 2: Joseph and those guys, they're getting better.
Speaker 1: They're better and better. They're getting better.
Speaker 5: We got to get tyry on Onod to be a
Speaker 5: little bit more patient, building more patient look back for
Speaker 5: the ball. Too many, too many passing appearance played, too
Speaker 5: many holding twenty holding pilties. Every single game, he's getting
Speaker 5: called for something, sometimes two and three a game.
Speaker 2: They might could have got him on that the last
Speaker 2: play that on that third on that third down, they
Speaker 2: could have easy.
Speaker 1: They called it. Yeah, they could have called it easy.
Speaker 1: They let it go. Though, they let it go.
Speaker 5: They didn't want that to be the deciding factor, you know,
Speaker 5: in the game, in the game. But he, I mean,
Speaker 5: he got to work. He got to work on that,
Speaker 5: you know, using your eyes. Many playing with your eyes instincts.
Speaker 5: Stop being so handsy and look back for the ball
Speaker 5: a little bit. Look back for the ball.
Speaker 1: Some of them. You know, it's different if you look back.
Speaker 5: I know most DB's they panic when they can't see
Speaker 5: and they see the receiver's eyes get big. If you
Speaker 5: look back for the ball early, man and keep yourself position,
Speaker 5: nine times out of ten you'll be able to make
Speaker 5: a play on the ball, and most of the time
Speaker 5: times you'll be able to pick it.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: And I think the thing is, I'm watching this game.
Speaker 2: The Lions offensive coordinator got afraid to call this game.
Speaker 2: They were started just handing the ball off the Gibbs
Speaker 2: and handing the ball off to Montgomery I'm like, bro,
Speaker 2: it's thirty seven, y'all at the fifty yard line, and
Speaker 2: y'all hand the ball off straight dive because they had
Speaker 2: gotten I mean, I'm looking at some of those interceptions.
Speaker 2: Ain't nowhere in hell golf thought those guys were open.
Speaker 2: The guys wouldn't even used to be an open O Joe.
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, look I get it. You know, it's
Speaker 2: it's kind of like it's like anything else, O Joe.
Speaker 2: You know, you get a touchdown, it's easier to get
Speaker 2: another touchdown. You know, you get a sack, it's easy
Speaker 2: to get another sack. Because normally we say things happen
Speaker 2: in bunches. You know, you get a bunch of sacks,
Speaker 2: you get a bunch of catches, you get a bunch
Speaker 2: of touchdown. Same thing with an interception. God throws one,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he throws another. Damn, that's
Speaker 2: two in another, And in his mind he's like, well, hey,
Speaker 2: I might who just keep slinging it. But the lions
Speaker 2: in the court that said, hell nah, because you killing us?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, most definitely. That's why he stopped.
Speaker 5: That's why he stopped calling the normal offense in which
Speaker 5: we are so how can we get the ball out
Speaker 5: of Golf's hands until we feel he's a little bit
Speaker 5: more comfortable.
Speaker 2: They started screening, screening them to death. They threw the
Speaker 2: swing that had your gibbs on one side, on one side,
Speaker 2: on the offset of the quarterback, and they running behind
Speaker 2: and throw it to him so he'll get from a
Speaker 2: great block. They run a dram break screen almind Saint
Speaker 2: Brian for the touchdown. They started doing everything they could. Heye,
Speaker 2: throw the ball.
Speaker 5: That's perfect, though, you know, you know what Ben Johnson
Speaker 5: is doing when he does that. Yo, what Let's get
Speaker 5: Golf a little Let's get him comfortable again. Let's get
Speaker 5: him in rhythm with some easy throwers. Get the ball
Speaker 5: out of his hands and get him.
Speaker 2: Because you're thinking too much, Now geta one two three,
Speaker 2: a screen one two three, jail break one two three,
Speaker 2: quick out one through three stick route. I don't want
Speaker 2: you thinking, because you're killing us.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, you probably hurting your damnself
Speaker 2: too because the Heatersay, hey, I was thinking about something.
Speaker 2: I hope you don't hurt yourself. I'm looking him like, bro,
Speaker 2: what are you doing? What do you see?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm?
Speaker 3: But this is a good team.
Speaker 2: Oho, when you can go on the road and you
Speaker 2: turn the ball over five times and you're still come
Speaker 2: away with a victory, this is a good team.
Speaker 3: This is a very good team. They're very well coached.
Speaker 2: They did not paint it, you know, Uh, Campbell, I
Speaker 2: couldn't hear what he said, but I think I could
Speaker 2: try to read his lip. I think he said about defense.
Speaker 2: Need to come out here and shut him down the
Speaker 2: first drive and ride on. Shoot Cal Davis gets a
Speaker 2: pick and now all of a sudden, we got Now
Speaker 2: we got a ball game. What a lead that could
Speaker 2: have been extended. It could have been twenty sixty seven,
Speaker 2: it could have been thirty to seven. Now all of
Speaker 2: a sudden boom. But hell, if I'm not mistaken, what'd
Speaker 2: you call him? Come back and give it right back
Speaker 2: to him? He throw it in and threw it interception. Yeah, golf,
Speaker 2: he did. He did not play well today.
Speaker 5: Not not at all. It was a sloppy game. It's funny.
Speaker 5: It's probably makes no sense. It was a sloppy ass game,
Speaker 5: but it was a good game at the same time. Yes,
Speaker 5: it's weird.
Speaker 2: Texas going to be kicking themselves. You have a sixteen
Speaker 2: point lead at home. You take the ball away five times,
Speaker 2: you only give it away two times. Yeah, that's gonna hurt.
Speaker 5: And you know they didn't capitalize. They didn't capitalize enough
Speaker 5: on those turnovers. No, you got to capitalize on them turnovers.
Speaker 5: You capitalize on.
Speaker 3: On one or two of those.
Speaker 1: One or two of those were you good?
Speaker 2: Bright, But here's the thing on some of those turnovers
Speaker 2: that they got CJ. Turner right and gave it right
Speaker 2: back to.
Speaker 1: Them, back to them. Yeah, so everything even doubt it
Speaker 1: did it did.
Speaker 2: So the Lions walk it off. Rookie Jake Bates, he
Speaker 2: kicked a fifty eight yarder to tie the game. Uh,
Speaker 2: and then and then at twenty three and then Fairburn,
Speaker 2: he misses a fifty eight yarder that would have given
Speaker 2: given them a three point lead. Golf leads him down,
Speaker 2: and here's the rookie trots out there on the field
Speaker 2: kicks a fifty two yard as time expires.
Speaker 3: As they win the game.
Speaker 2: The Lions go on the road, walk it off twenty six,
Speaker 2: twenty three over the Texans. The Lions on the best
Speaker 2: record in the NFC with a record of eight and one.
Speaker 2: The Eagles go on the road and drub the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: Kyle said, set a dubious record. They have now trailed
Speaker 2: by at least twenty points in their last five home games.
Speaker 2: That's the first time in NFL history that's happened.
Speaker 3: The sunlight rob CD of a touchdown.
Speaker 2: Remember the engineer advised Jerry not to build a stadium
Speaker 2: in that direction of the setting sun. Reporter asked CD,
Speaker 2: are you in favor of a curtains ce D said yes.
Speaker 2: Reporter said, will you tell Jerry that? I mean, y'all
Speaker 2: are doing my job for me right now. But Jerry
Speaker 2: had did you see the quote what Jerry saying about
Speaker 2: the thing they asked him about it? He said, well,
Speaker 2: won't we better damn new stadium. He's like everybody knows
Speaker 2: the sun He's frustrated. So Jerry kind of snapped a
Speaker 2: little bit, and but hey, it is what it is.
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones won't fire Mike McCarthy. He says he will
Speaker 2: not make an nd season coaching move.
Speaker 1: I don't know you think.
Speaker 2: So this is what Jerry said, The owner's lie.
Speaker 1: You can't holy word, you can't. You can't holy word.
Speaker 1: You take that with a grain of salt.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: Frustrated Jerry Jones says some comments about the sun impacting
Speaker 2: the play at AT and T Stadium. That was one play. Okay,
Speaker 2: so now they lose thirty four to thirteen. They got
Speaker 2: to ask kick that the sun one play?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I frustrated.
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones had some comments about the sun impacting the
Speaker 2: planet at and T AT and T Stadium. By the way,
Speaker 2: we know where the sun is going to be when
Speaker 2: we decide to flip the corner. Not we do know
Speaker 2: where the damn son is going to be in our
Speaker 2: own stadium. Everybody's got the same thing. Every team that
Speaker 2: comes in here has the same issues. I'm saying, the
Speaker 2: world knows where the sun is. You get to know
Speaker 2: almost about year in advance. Someone asked me about the sun.
Speaker 2: What about the sun? Where's the boom?
Speaker 3: Jerry?
Speaker 2: Excuse me, guys man, Jared, Hey, look here, that's what
Speaker 2: happens when you're three and six. Your starting quarterback is
Speaker 2: done for the season that you paid sixty million dollars.
Speaker 3: You have not lived up to expectation. Yeah, oh, Joe.
Speaker 2: There was a point in time that people said, y'all
Speaker 2: should let that go and sign Cooper Rush. Cooper Rush
Speaker 2: was thirteen of twenty three for forty five yards. The
Speaker 2: starting quarterback in the NFL game Cooper Rush and Trey
Speaker 2: Lance was nineteen of twenty No.
Speaker 3: Seventeen of twenty nine for sixty six yards.
Speaker 5: Hey, you know that playbook. You know how much that
Speaker 5: playbook shrink when you don't have your starting quarterback. Boy
Speaker 5: like this boy, playbook be about this big.
Speaker 1: Only there's only.
Speaker 3: So much you can do. There's only so much you.
Speaker 5: Can do because there's a reason a person is a starter,
Speaker 5: and theres a reason the person is a backup. If
Speaker 5: the backup was the main thing, then the main thing
Speaker 5: would have been the main thing, and he wouldn't have
Speaker 5: been the backup.
Speaker 2: So when you factor had sacks, Ojo the Cowboys was
Speaker 2: seventeen or twenty nine for forty nine yards. NFL starting
Speaker 2: quarterbacks passed the ball in four quarters in an NFL
Speaker 2: game for less than fifty yards.
Speaker 1: That sounds bad.
Speaker 3: They had ninety seven yards rushing on twenty four.
Speaker 1: Carries, and god damn Bray, But Jared.
Speaker 2: Did a great job of assembling this roster. That's what
Speaker 2: he told you. Oh yeah, he got upset it he
Speaker 2: got upset. And three to have a guy removed from
Speaker 2: his job because he asked it. Jerry tell Kate, nobody
Speaker 2: do a better job than me. Yeah, Well, if Kate
Speaker 2: nobody do a better job than you. The question there, Jared,
Speaker 2: let me ask you a question. If somebody else other
Speaker 2: than you had built this rock Foster, would he still
Speaker 2: have this job?
Speaker 5: Absolutely not, absolutely not. They would have been five, probably
Speaker 5: two games ago.
Speaker 2: That The problem that Jerry has is that he thinks
Speaker 2: he's the smartest guy in the room, and he wants
Speaker 2: to be, but he doesn't realize he shouldn't be. Jerry
Speaker 2: knows just enough to be dangerous. He knows just enough
Speaker 2: to f up his team. Exhibit A, Exhibit B, Exhibit C.
Speaker 2: I like to I like to put all of those.
Speaker 1: He knows just enough to be dangerous. You know what,
Speaker 1: hold on? Hold on, man, I'm at a later date.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure whin I could use that man.
Speaker 3: Oh, cho, that is pathetic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's bad, it's bad. Listen.
Speaker 5: Normally I would pile on the Cowboys right now, but
Speaker 5: there's really nothing else I can say.
Speaker 1: I think I think for myself.
Speaker 5: I feel bad for the Cowboys players, I feel bad
Speaker 5: for the fans. I continuously say this, I've said it
Speaker 5: the past three weeks and nothing seemed to change. I
Speaker 5: thought maybe things would turn around. Michael Parsons came back today.
Speaker 5: I thought maybe they might have had a chance. Maybe
Speaker 5: they could have made it close, maybe made it the game.
Speaker 5: They would have competed a little better. But I didn't
Speaker 5: get I didn't get none of the above.
Speaker 2: No, I don't feel bad as long as Jerry the hell,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to feel bad.
Speaker 1: But you don't feel bad at all of the player.
Speaker 2: Not long as Jerry called them the shots. No, absolutely not,
Speaker 2: because how could I feel bad for the baby snakes
Speaker 2: If I don't like the snake? How can I feel
Speaker 2: bad for his players? If the guy that's in charge
Speaker 2: I really don't have a whole lot of use for.
Speaker 2: And everybody knows why. I make no secrets about that.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah I do.
Speaker 2: I when I see Michael, oh, oh, your church camera
Speaker 2: down a little bit mine?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well my head, well my head big, yeah,
Speaker 5: you can see me now.
Speaker 3: Yeah. We want to make sure we have enough room.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I thought you're trying to go. I thought
Speaker 1: you're trying to.
Speaker 3: Make fun of my head. Noah nah.
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, the only really Cowboys that I've
Speaker 2: ever seen, you know, was probably Micah Diggs.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's Dak his rookie year.
Speaker 2: But other than that, I don't really I don't you know, hey,
Speaker 2: I don't really go anywhere to really see him.
Speaker 3: Every once in a while, I.
Speaker 2: Might be out here in Vegas and and see a
Speaker 2: fight or something, but other than that, I'm not really
Speaker 2: going anywhere that I'm gonna bump into a whole lot
Speaker 2: of NFL players, don't jo or any for that matter,
Speaker 2: any professional athlete for that matter. But nah nah. And
Speaker 2: and the thing is is that it couldn't happen to it.
Speaker 2: It couldn't happen to a better team. But Jared don't care.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, he losing. There's no money because guess what,
Speaker 2: the fans are gonna show up and believe that they're
Speaker 2: gonna run the table, make the playoffs, and win the
Speaker 2: super Bowl every year. Every You can't tell the Cowboy
Speaker 2: fans they're not not going to run the table, win
Speaker 2: the division, and make the playoffs.
Speaker 3: You can't convince thembody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I ain't gonna be the one to tell
Speaker 2: y'all bad news. But y'all not going to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think.
Speaker 2: They as well go ahead and start tanking and try
Speaker 2: to get a high pick. HI.
Speaker 3: You pick for what position, it don't matter.
Speaker 2: They need a lot of them. Feel they could use
Speaker 2: a wide receiver. Obviously, you're not taking a quarterback. You
Speaker 2: ain't want that kind of You don't want one hundred
Speaker 2: plus million dollars in their cap space.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: You need a corner opposite the digs. You need a dtackle,
Speaker 2: You need a mintal linebacker. Okay, you need offensive line.
Speaker 2: Your offensive line is a very.
Speaker 5: I think that was that should be their first pick.
Speaker 5: If they pick early, they should get office Alibeen. I
Speaker 5: like Diggs, I like Bland. I'm not sure Dron Bland
Speaker 5: not back yet?
Speaker 3: Yeah? He black back. I think you're back. Ain't playing back? Yeah?
Speaker 3: He back?
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah he had. He had was having a hell
Speaker 5: of a season last year man before he got injured.
Speaker 2: Jerry says he will not making them season coach. Huh
Speaker 2: he was out today though, O Joe, he was out today.
Speaker 2: He's back, but he was out today. H Yes, Sir
Speaker 2: Bill's trade for Marik Cooper the same week he came in,
Speaker 2: he scored a touchdown. Was trade for Mike Williams. The
Speaker 2: same week he comes in, he scored a touchdown. He's
Speaker 2: trade for DeAndre Hopkins. He scored a touchdown. Jerry got bingo,
Speaker 2: he was an actor today.
Speaker 5: What I don't I don't know what game? What game
Speaker 5: we told I can't wait till we get to that
Speaker 5: game that was bad. That was a good ass game. Bro,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna wait.
Speaker 2: I mean, the Chief trade for hap he plays right away.
Speaker 2: Bill's trade for Cooper, he plays right away. Dealers trade
Speaker 2: for Mike Williams. He plays right away, Jared trade for
Speaker 2: a guy gave up more draft capital than any of
Speaker 2: these other guys.
Speaker 3: And these other guys.
Speaker 2: Approbo de Harp has been a multiple Pro Bowl player,
Speaker 2: as all Pro Cooper has been a Pro Bowl player.
Speaker 2: Mike Williams and miss Talent. Yeah he is, trade for
Speaker 2: Jonathan Mingo. He don't even suit up now. You could
Speaker 2: have when you could have waited till after the season.
Speaker 2: If you're gonna leave him in acting about Joe right,
Speaker 2: I mean that.
Speaker 5: Might have been the reason why they did leave him
Speaker 5: in active. They don't they don't feel he's been there
Speaker 5: long enough. Obviously you got you got a quarterback that's
Speaker 5: not starting, the starting, the quarterbacks not playing, you have
Speaker 5: a backup plan, so you really have no.
Speaker 1: Use in the city offense at any point.
Speaker 2: Did you see did you see Cooper rush today? He
Speaker 2: been there all this time, but he looked like he
Speaker 2: hadn't been there, So what was the different? He don't
Speaker 2: know what the hell he doing, Mingo, don't know what
Speaker 2: the hell he doing, so they might be perfect.
Speaker 1: Hey, just put him back there and let it wing
Speaker 1: it out.
Speaker 2: Hey, mingo, you run a stop ride he running? Go
Speaker 2: Cooper rush? You the bore a touchdown, that's what you
Speaker 2: got to do it. But your hell, don't nobody know
Speaker 2: what they're doing? All up out there Like a blind
Speaker 2: dog in a meathouse. They spelled the meat. Can't see
Speaker 2: ish man, God for a good terrible held. Look.
Speaker 1: Hey, they got there like a blind dog and the what.
Speaker 3: The blind dog in the meathouse? They smelled the meat
Speaker 3: but can't see nothing.
Speaker 2: I say, boy, I'm just trying to figure out how
Speaker 2: does a guy, an NFL quarterback through it for forty
Speaker 2: five yards?
Speaker 5: Us that all? It's difficult. It's difficult. You can't you
Speaker 5: can't call. You can't call the office you want to
Speaker 5: call when you know you ain't got nothing to work with.
Speaker 1: That's what you get hold on.
Speaker 3: He ain't got workers.
Speaker 2: If your business crappic is because you say the employees,
Speaker 2: the workers are not doing their job? Who hired them?
Speaker 2: Who hired those workers? Cause Jared quick to tell you
Speaker 2: that that's him. The buck stops with him. Everything stops
Speaker 2: on his desk.
Speaker 1: Mm hm.
Speaker 3: So if it's not getting done, whose fault is that?
Speaker 2: Name something that's there, from coaches to secretaries to whatever
Speaker 2: the case may be, that does not have Jared Jones
Speaker 2: fingerprint on it. So when it's fed up, who we blaming?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well ship he gonna he gonna say it in him.
Speaker 2: No, he got to say that because he wanted the
Speaker 2: responsibility he wanted. He wanted the credit. See, you don't
Speaker 2: realize how good you can be alone. You don't mind
Speaker 2: who gets the credit. That's his problem. He wants the credit.
Speaker 2: He desires the credit. He yearns for the credit because
Speaker 2: he wants people to tell him how great of a
Speaker 2: job that he's doing.
Speaker 5: How could you still need to hear that at this
Speaker 5: point of validation as a GM How could Ocho.
Speaker 2: He has no football experience, and he wants to say that,
Speaker 2: look look at this other owners, Clark Hunt ruin its everybody.
Speaker 2: If I hire somebody, why am I gonna try to
Speaker 2: do the show? Why am I gonna try to produce
Speaker 2: the show? When I hire Ash and I'm paying her
Speaker 2: money to do it? Why am I hiring to do
Speaker 2: all this stuff that George's doing? If I'm paying Jordan
Speaker 2: and all the other employees, why am I gonna tell
Speaker 2: them how to do graphics?
Speaker 3: How I'm going to how to do editing.
Speaker 2: How I'm gonna tell the social media team to do
Speaker 2: their job if I'm paying them, if I if I
Speaker 2: got to tell them, if I'm telling them of doing their.
Speaker 3: Job, I need to fire them. I can save some money. Bam, Jerry.
Speaker 2: If you've got people in position to do what you
Speaker 2: hired them to do, why are you always over there
Speaker 2: trying to do it? He want everybody to see him
Speaker 2: laying helicopter on the field. He wanted everybody to know
Speaker 2: that he talked to the team before they went out.
Speaker 2: He's the first one to talk to the team after
Speaker 2: they him off the field. See, that's what he wants.
Speaker 2: He desires that no other owner does that.
Speaker 5: I mean, he is a look different. He is a
Speaker 5: little different when it comes to ownership. But listen, he's
Speaker 5: stuck in his ways to at this point. Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm sure he's heard this many of time before.
Speaker 3: Just one other way.
Speaker 2: He's stuck in what twenty eight years without going to
Speaker 2: the super Bowl, He's stuck in that.
Speaker 3: It's to be twenty nine, to be twenty.
Speaker 1: Nine a long time. You know, I not longer take
Speaker 1: the bill? Now, who would?
Speaker 3: Do?
Speaker 5: You know how long it take the bill and fix
Speaker 5: the situations that you're going on. It's just multiple tea's,
Speaker 5: multiple pieces that you need. That that's about maybe five
Speaker 5: maybe a five or six run, six year run.
Speaker 2: That would be like the shareholders getting rid of Tim
Speaker 2: Cook because they're not getting credit.
Speaker 3: Well, we're gonna fight.
Speaker 2: Tim Cook just took the company from three hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty billion, four hundred billion to blust trillion. But because
Speaker 2: we're not getting any credit, we're gonna get rid of
Speaker 2: him because that's what Jerry.
Speaker 1: Did, right, yeah, basically.
Speaker 5: Basically, And and then if there were rumblings, normally it's immediate.
Speaker 5: That only starts it when they talk about firing a
Speaker 5: coach in season. You know that always come from in house. Yeah,
Speaker 5: for sure, it always starts in house. They purposely put
Speaker 5: that out there just to get to get to get
Speaker 5: the fire starting, get it bruined. And then the pressure
Speaker 5: they always like to say, oh, the pressure from the
Speaker 5: outside that we would be the point of find mister McCarthy.
Speaker 5: At this point, nothing's gonna change. It's nobody the interim coach.
Speaker 5: Ain't nothing gonna change.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you, I mean you hired him.
Speaker 2: Oh this is the guy, this guy's what because Mike
Speaker 2: McCarthy lied. Oh, I watched every last what a Cowboys snap.
Speaker 2: I've broken them down. He told Jerry that handle that
Speaker 2: Jared's house. He spend the night at Jared's house. He
Speaker 2: not chose drinking beer. Tell you what he would can see, Jerry.
Speaker 2: A lot of times powerful people o jo delight for
Speaker 2: you to stroke their ego. Tell them what a wonderful
Speaker 2: job they're doing. Tell them what a brilliant business man
Speaker 2: they are. What a great general manage you are. I've
Speaker 2: broken your team down. I think a few tweaks here
Speaker 2: and there. You have the talent. You've done a great job, Jerry,
Speaker 2: of assembling talent. The talent is here. Nobody has accumulated
Speaker 2: more Pro Bowl players, drafted more Pro Bowl players other
Speaker 2: than the Chiefs the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: So, Jerry, you've done a great job. Jarry said, you
Speaker 3: think so wow? Oh okay, I haven't heard that.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate that. So he gives him the job.
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy, he gets rid of killing more.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 2: No, there's too much of this fluffy stuff. They're throwing
Speaker 2: the ball. I like to run the football. I'm gonna running.
Speaker 2: If you go back and look at my Green Bay team,
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy throws the football more than killing Moore ever did.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: But see the more we get into but they had
Speaker 2: the second best offense, one of the top scoring offense,
Speaker 2: one of the top offensive as far as total yards kill.
Speaker 2: The more we're getting credit, see Macarthy getting no credit.
Speaker 2: You see, how good could you be? I understand when
Speaker 2: it comes to shay shape media, I'm in front of it.
Speaker 2: But I'm smart enough to know that I've hired people
Speaker 2: and put them in place. Do what y'all do.
Speaker 3: Right. Sometimes I have to.
Speaker 2: Say, nah, I don't want to do that, But for
Speaker 2: the most part, I let them do what they do.
Speaker 2: I let CJ does what he does at club, let
Speaker 2: ask do what she does. I let the do what
Speaker 2: you do.
Speaker 3: I'm cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons Field's worse for teammates like Zach Martin than
Speaker 2: he does for Mike McCarthy. You want to win games
Speaker 2: and do great things for those type of legends who
Speaker 2: put more time in and work than Mike McCarthy ever did.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 1: I don't think he meant to say it like that.
Speaker 3: I don't know what he meant.
Speaker 1: I don't like that. He ain't mean it like that.
Speaker 2: I mean I about to say old peena head ocho. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he didn't mean to say it like that. Yeah, Hey,
Speaker 2: how long might be in the McCarthy? Yeah, this is
Speaker 2: what fifth in fourth or fifth.
Speaker 6: Twenty nineteen to twenty twenty, twenty twenty twenty one, basic
Speaker 6: fifth year. Yeah, yeah, I understand. I understand what he's
Speaker 6: trying to say. The way he worded it might not
Speaker 6: be right and could be taken a little different.
Speaker 3: You know, But what was he trying to say? Zach?
Speaker 5: Zach, Zach's been there for a minute, brother Zach be
Speaker 5: there for and for him to be on the way
Speaker 5: out on tail end of his career.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe or maybe not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if he.
Speaker 5: Is going out, this is a horrible way to go.
Speaker 5: This is a hard This is a very very bad
Speaker 5: way to go. Zach Martin is not what he once was.
Speaker 5: But if you're not what you once was, then everything
Speaker 5: around you has to be that much better. And it's
Speaker 5: sticking up the place in all three phases, whether it
Speaker 5: be offense, whether it be defense.
Speaker 1: Hell, the special teams might be bad too.
Speaker 3: This is his full quote. Mike can leave and go
Speaker 3: wherever he wants.
Speaker 2: Guys I kind of feel bad for, like Zach Martin,
Speaker 2: guys who might be on their last year, are on
Speaker 2: their way out, because that's what I want to hold
Speaker 2: the trophy for. You want to win games, to do
Speaker 2: great things for those type of ledgers who put more
Speaker 2: time in and work than Mike McCarthy ever did. Those
Speaker 2: are the kind of guys that I have so much
Speaker 2: sympathy and hurt for. Now, do you believe he took
Speaker 2: it out of context?
Speaker 1: God, Now, when you say it like that.
Speaker 3: I ain't saying like that. He said it like that.
Speaker 1: I know, But you what I'm saying before you just
Speaker 1: read all that I kind of, I kind of. I
Speaker 1: thought it might have been.
Speaker 5: Hey, but hey, you think he mad may well, Michael
Speaker 5: must be mad at Mike mccausey what you mad at
Speaker 5: all that losing?
Speaker 3: Nah?
Speaker 5: Even if even even if you're mad at all the loser,
Speaker 5: you don't, you don't throw your court, your your coach
Speaker 5: under the bus like that.
Speaker 2: I know he drove over the top of him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the way. I mean the way you
Speaker 1: just read. Are you sure that's his quote?
Speaker 3: That's his quote is quoted?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but that's that's if there's listen, if there's
Speaker 5: anybody that can get away with it on that team,
Speaker 5: he's one. He's one of the few that can, especially
Speaker 5: to be able to say something like that. I listen,
Speaker 5: you can, you can. You can pump up your boy,
Speaker 5: Zach Martin, but there was no no, no needy.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you can pump up your guy without crapping on
Speaker 2: the other guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you do that.
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying now. But in the meantime,
Speaker 2: we gotta get a uh. We can't leave without talking
Speaker 2: about the Eagles that put foot filling. James Hurst was
Speaker 2: fourteen to twenty two hundred and two yards two touchdowns
Speaker 2: one of eceptions. Kwon Barkley did not have a big day,
Speaker 2: but the Eagles ran the ball thirty eight times for
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty seven yards. A. J. Brown came
Speaker 2: back after left the game last week five catches for
Speaker 2: a bucko nine the fifteen. They had two touchdowns. Dallas
Speaker 2: Goddard had one and Wilson had another. Jayalen Hurst lost
Speaker 2: the fumber had two turnovers, but they dominated.
Speaker 3: They dominated.
Speaker 2: The best chance they had, Zeke fumbled the ball and
Speaker 2: gave it him a touch back. Oho, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. He ball, but it was a great play.
Speaker 2: Guys hit him Gardner Johnson hit him on one side.
Speaker 2: The other guy hit him on the other. The ball popside,
Speaker 2: goes into the end zone. Dejon falls on it. But hey,
Speaker 2: guess what, They get the ball right back because Jalen
Speaker 2: hurts FuMB of the football and they set a four
Speaker 2: field goal. And so but the Eagles fairoughly dominated this game.
Speaker 2: They sacked the quarterback. They only sacked the quarterback three times.
Speaker 2: Hurst got sacked five times, two by Overshawan another two
Speaker 2: by Micah. The defense played a little better after getting
Speaker 2: after the quarterbacks, they still they two light the bridges
Speaker 2: to stop the run, Ojo.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 2: Can't everybody, everybody, everybody give them that work when it
Speaker 2: comes to run in the football.
Speaker 1: Right downhill, downhill right now?
Speaker 3: They don't have enough the guys.
Speaker 2: I mean Ddelle had twelve or fifty three, Zeke had
Speaker 2: six for twenty two. Lance had three for seventeen. That's
Speaker 2: not man, who you're gonna beat rushing the ball for
Speaker 2: less than one hundred yards, O.
Speaker 5: Joe, nobody. But you don't have a running game to
Speaker 5: begin with. Oh I mean, uh, you don't have a
Speaker 5: running game to begin with. No, you had one and
Speaker 5: then minus your quarterback. Now you can't throw the ball either,
Speaker 5: because you're usually your backup. So now you're down to them.
Speaker 5: You did down two times? Right, you can't throw, you
Speaker 5: can't run. What the hell are you supposed to do it?
Speaker 3: How the.
Speaker 2: Well, if you can't run it, you can't throw it.
Speaker 2: That's kind of you're kind of limited on the offense.
Speaker 3: O Yo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean they don't give you. They only
Speaker 2: give you two options on offense. You can run it
Speaker 2: or you can throw it. Now, if you can't do
Speaker 2: either one of those, you kind.
Speaker 1: Of uh, you get what you got today basically, I mean, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, if I'm the Cowboys, I would think about punting
Speaker 2: on first or second down and save myself the embarrassment. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because y'all are what they on. Hold on, let me
Speaker 2: see what they were on fee the Cowboys were Cowboys
Speaker 2: were three or fourteen on third down? Yeah, they come
Speaker 2: out better come punting it. Yeah, three or fourteen.
Speaker 3: Three or fourteen three or fourteen.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm curious how the fans. I'm curious how
Speaker 5: the fans in Dallas feel. I would love I mean, obviously,
Speaker 5: I'm not a guy damning, I'm beat reporter, but I
Speaker 5: would love to hear, genuinely how they feel about the
Speaker 5: season so far, how they feel about Jerry and and
Speaker 5: and I hate I hate using the word lies, but
Speaker 5: obviously they have been lies that they are sold and
Speaker 5: told each and every season. I was always curious, you know,
Speaker 5: how they felt, because it's only one way to have change.
Speaker 5: You know, if you hit somebody's pockets, that's the only
Speaker 5: way change is going to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, stop showing up. Stop stop showing up and watch
Speaker 1: what happened.
Speaker 2: They're not I mean you're you're a fan, you I
Speaker 2: mean your your lord. I mean that you root for
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. You brought cowboys in your blood. Yeah, those
Speaker 2: one in Cowboys to prioritize Tree Lance development. They're not
Speaker 2: They're not there. I want to see us win the game,
Speaker 2: Jerry said, I want to win the game, So I
Speaker 2: want to do things to win the game. This is
Speaker 2: not fun, this isn't pretty. I thought we'd be better. Frankly,
Speaker 2: you the only one. You, the only one that thought
Speaker 2: that year. Damn man, Oh what what steps did you
Speaker 2: take to make sure you got better at stopping the run?
Speaker 5: But he said he was gonna be all in. I
Speaker 5: remember that quote. I remember that quote in off season.
Speaker 2: Well, I think what he meant by that was resigning
Speaker 2: the guys that he had da CD and eventually Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2: But Ojo, what couldn't they do last year? Stop the run?
Speaker 2: What couldn't they do last year? Oh, Joe, run the football?
Speaker 2: So again, tell me the steps that they took in
Speaker 2: order to improve in those areas.
Speaker 3: Do what you've always done. You'll get what you've always gotten.
Speaker 2: So you brought the same guys back and said, okay, guys,
Speaker 2: we got a new decordinator. So what we're gonna do
Speaker 2: Now we're gonna stop to run. But the same personnel. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like you have to play with the lead. Your team
Speaker 2: is built to play with the lead. If you don't
Speaker 2: get the lead and a team compound you. You see
Speaker 2: what happened? What did the forty Niners do to him?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: What did the Eagles do to him? What did Baltimore
Speaker 2: do to him? What did the Sames do to him?
Speaker 2: Go back to look at the games.
Speaker 5: Put him in a blender, put him into blenda. And
Speaker 5: then when you when there was an opportunity to improve
Speaker 5: you run game.
Speaker 1: You said he cost too much?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: How much do lose it? But see, Harry's the thing.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys are the one team losing doesn't cost anything.
Speaker 2: So he hasn't lost anything because guess what the ratings
Speaker 2: are still to the roof when the Cowboys come on.
Speaker 2: Guess what it was a three and sixteen? Think about it,
Speaker 2: a three and sixteen. There was the number they got
Speaker 2: the number one crew at CBS. They got Romo and nance.
Speaker 2: That should just that just tells you, Yeah, tell me
Speaker 2: tell me another three and see another three and five
Speaker 2: team that will get get Fox number one crew again. Man,
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. If the Cowboys come on Sunday night, I
Speaker 2: don't believe their flex out of it now because the
Speaker 2: our boys bring ratings even with them losing. That even
Speaker 2: with them losing, even with them losing.
Speaker 1: That's a hey, that's the hell of him. Brand Bra And.
Speaker 2: Guess what, O Joe, watch what they do on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2: Who do they play on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3: The Giants?
Speaker 2: And the Giants got their own problem talking about they
Speaker 2: need to evaluate the quarterback position with that large ass
Speaker 2: sample size. You gotta see, Daniel Jones, you're trying you
Speaker 2: need to evaluate who said that?
Speaker 1: The ball.
Speaker 2: Day ball? Yeah, they play the Giants. Oo, they play
Speaker 2: the Giants. Uh, they play the Giants on Thanksgiving. Let's
Speaker 2: get to this game.
Speaker 3: The Chiefs stay undefeated with a block field goal.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs leads the NFL in seven one possession wins
Speaker 2: this season. The most one score game by the val
Speaker 2: Super Bowl chap is nine, both by the twenty fifteen
Speaker 2: Broncos and the nineteen eighty six Giants.
Speaker 1: Hey, Broncos played good, didn't I.
Speaker 3: Tell you did?
Speaker 2: Remember we had the conversation I said, Oh I would
Speaker 2: be BRONXO beat them right, Listen, I'm not gonna say nothing.
Speaker 1: They got damn Broncos d The Boys played good.
Speaker 3: Yes, they always play the Chiefs good good.
Speaker 1: This is the vision game.
Speaker 5: This is an a visional game, and most of the
Speaker 5: time when you play within the division, the games are
Speaker 5: always close. Again, the Chiefs looked like they look they've
Speaker 5: looked the entirety of the season, always finding in a
Speaker 5: way to win. It's unfortunate, but the Broncos should have
Speaker 5: won this game today and what it can't. You know,
Speaker 5: obviously it came down to a block fielder. But still
Speaker 5: go at the end and I'm I'm gonna let you slide.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna let you slide because I was gonna say
Speaker 5: if your team lost the day, I don't want to.
Speaker 1: But listen, listen, I'm I don't have the energy right now.
Speaker 1: You know you know why. I don't have the energy
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna let you slide to night and just say,
Speaker 5: yeah it was it was a good game, and it
Speaker 5: was a good game.
Speaker 1: Even though I was impressed with the Broncos defense.
Speaker 2: You got a heavy heart right now and a lot
Speaker 2: on your mind. I do understand.
Speaker 1: No, I don't got no heavy heart.
Speaker 3: I don't know about you got a heavy heart.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 5: Uh huh, hold on, let me take let me take
Speaker 5: my chades off so you can see my ass. I'm good, right, yeah, me,
Speaker 5: don't mean it. Uh remember what I told you? Listen,
Speaker 5: can't stay with me real quick?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, we're not right here. We don't get
Speaker 3: right back.
Speaker 5: In football, you know how to compartmentalize, right, yes, you
Speaker 5: know how to manage your expectations right.
Speaker 3: Based on situation.
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna leave it that. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about the game. I'm good. Ah.
Speaker 2: Patrick Maholls twenty to forty two, two sixty six one touchdowns.
Speaker 2: They did not run the ball with any conviction today
Speaker 2: nineteen runs fifty seven yards, the Broncos riding the ball
Speaker 2: twenty three times for seventy eight yards. The thing that's
Speaker 2: killing the cheap o Joe is that red zone. I mean,
Speaker 2: my homes is not as sharp as he once was.
Speaker 2: He had trapper at the back of the end zone.
Speaker 2: He overthrew it. He overthrew it, overthrew it, overthrew it.
Speaker 5: I remember I played quarterbacks, so I could I can
Speaker 5: kind of I could. I could empathize with at the
Speaker 5: quarterback position. You know when Sometimes that happens when you're
Speaker 5: rushing and your panic you don't follow through what your emotions,
Speaker 5: your mechanics aren't what they should be. Yeap and and
Speaker 5: stuff the ball to get away from you like that
Speaker 5: when you know players wide open, and sometimes you look
Speaker 5: at you look back at you look back at yourself,
Speaker 5: or you're watching back on field and be like, how
Speaker 5: the hell I missed something like that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you they got your situation. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: don't They got Buffalo next week in Buffalo. I think
Speaker 2: they're going the road there in Buffalo. Got Buffalo at
Speaker 2: Buffalo next week, if I'm not mistaken, O Joe. And
Speaker 2: then they got Carolina and then they got the Panthers.
Speaker 5: Hey, there's a chance they could be they tend to No, right,
Speaker 5: there's a chance they could be twelve and No, when
Speaker 5: is the last time Buffalo has even beat the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: No, they're note to all.
Speaker 2: So they're at They're at at Buffalo, at Carolina, home
Speaker 2: to the Raiders, in at Denver, coume to Chargers at Cleveland. Okay,
Speaker 2: I think that I think the game that gives them
Speaker 2: is Buffalo. I think I think Buffalo has them their
Speaker 2: first loss. You think so, I do, but it's concerning
Speaker 2: me because I've seen a bunch of times starting to
Speaker 2: turn the ball over a little bit.
Speaker 1: Josh today, good day.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, but the Chiefs state undefeated.
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, I remember we had a season and I
Speaker 2: I think we were playing the Bears and man, they
Speaker 2: ran a tackle eligible and the guy dropped it a
Speaker 2: tackle a tackle eligible for a touchdown. Paths they threw
Speaker 2: it that you had attackle extra tackle in snipped him out.
Speaker 2: He dropped it. He was open. Nope, you wide open.
Speaker 2: And sometimes you sometimes you get lucky. Sometimes you get lucky.
Speaker 2: But the Chiefs remained undefeated, the only unbeaten team in
Speaker 2: the NFL best record overall, best record in the AFC
Speaker 2: by the score of sixteen to fourteen over the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 2: The forty nine Ers defeated the Bucks twenty three to
Speaker 2: twenty and the return of Christian McCaffrey, the forty nine
Speaker 2: Ers emerged victorious with the biggest story of the side
Speaker 2: was on the sideline when a scuffle between Deebo Samuel
Speaker 2: long snapper Taybor Pepper after the game. De Boy explained
Speaker 2: what prompting the heat exchange a curve after kicker Jake
Speaker 2: Moody's third missed field goal of the game. Normally I
Speaker 2: don't even get like that, but just frustrated in the
Speaker 2: heat of the battle, you know, real close game. I
Speaker 2: kind of got out of character. But I'll talk to
Speaker 2: Moody and we'll get past it. Moody responded with a
Speaker 2: rough outing by drilling a forty four yard game winning
Speaker 2: field goal as time expired.
Speaker 5: Gotta loosen everything up. Gotta loosen everything up. As a kicker,
Speaker 5: you got one job, got nothing else. You do one thing, five, six, seven,
Speaker 5: eight days out the week. I'm talking about eight days.
Speaker 5: It's only seven. Yeah, all you got to do. You
Speaker 5: got one job is to kick. So when they ask
Speaker 5: you to do that one job that you do, do
Speaker 5: you know you're gonna miss. You're human, It's the NFL.
Speaker 5: You know, you want to be as perfect as possible.
Speaker 5: That's the reason why you practice. You know, if you
Speaker 5: fall short of being perfect, it'd be better than most.
Speaker 5: But you can't miss three kicks that could have cast
Speaker 5: you the game today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, three, Come on, man, most of the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wronged though.
Speaker 5: Listen, if you drop three footballs to the receiver, likely you,
Speaker 5: unless you a number one or elite player, probably not
Speaker 5: gonna be playing.
Speaker 2: But what happens if Debo and fumbled the ball and
Speaker 2: they lose the game and the guy goes up there
Speaker 2: and grabs his face mask. What if he drops two
Speaker 2: passes on the last drive and we lose the game,
Speaker 2: he grabs his face mass or he gets in his face.
Speaker 3: You think d gos gonna be cool with that?
Speaker 1: No, probably not.
Speaker 2: So that's why you have to look and I get it. Look,
Speaker 2: you and I both been on the sidelines. We've seen
Speaker 2: kickers miss it, We've seen you know, guys do things.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's frustrated. It is extremely frustrated. But you
Speaker 2: also have to understand now, the way football work. In
Speaker 2: the football gods, they'll put you in that situation to
Speaker 2: have you drop a pass or they have you fumble
Speaker 2: the ball.
Speaker 1: They get you right every time, They get.
Speaker 3: You right time.
Speaker 2: But like I said, look, I know they're frustrated. They're
Speaker 2: not having the season that they expected. They're five and four.
Speaker 2: I can assure you that the forty nine ers thought
Speaker 2: they would be better than five and four after nine games.
Speaker 5: Hey, but you know what's funny, but they got damn
Speaker 5: forty nine ers with that they always going to f
Speaker 5: and run when it counts.
Speaker 2: This is the first time they went back to back game,
Speaker 2: so they could be onto something.
Speaker 3: The forty nine ers guy. Next next two to three games.
Speaker 2: Last they got Seahawks at home at Packers, at Bills.
Speaker 5: Seahawks at Packers and Bills. Oh oh that's mm hmm,
Speaker 5: all them, all them tricky. I'm playing the Seahawks. What Seahawks.
Speaker 5: What Seahawks team are we gonna get?
Speaker 3: Man? Seahawks been I mean they don't been putting up
Speaker 3: big numbers.
Speaker 1: But over yeah, you know, leading the league un passing, ain'ting?
Speaker 3: He was, yeah, he was.
Speaker 2: I mean he's gonna be up there knocked what Gino
Speaker 2: have a big guy? Think Gino had a big game
Speaker 2: when they play Monday night. No, they were on a
Speaker 2: bid week. See I was on the buy. Seattle was
Speaker 2: on to buy. But Party had had an outstanding day.
Speaker 2: He was twenty five or thirty six, three fifty three
Speaker 2: excuse me, two touchdowns, clean game, no turnovers. He fumbled
Speaker 2: but Jennings got it, ended up recovering it.
Speaker 1: Only had a good game today, Bray.
Speaker 2: Jeenny Yeah yah yea yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Dorisol had
Speaker 2: a big day, four for seventy three on a touchdown
Speaker 2: his first touchdown. Sing Man came back six catches sixty
Speaker 2: six yards, Debo was five for sixty two and Kiddle
Speaker 2: great touchdown party did a great job of finding him
Speaker 2: in the back of the m zone. O Shoe he
Speaker 2: had he had three for fifty seven and a touchdown.
Speaker 2: Piersall had four for seventy three on a touchdown. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, but this is the type of game that
Speaker 2: Pretty needed because they were unable to run the football.
Speaker 2: So now I got to put the ball in your
Speaker 2: hands and you got to make it happen.
Speaker 1: You think mccaffree healthy.
Speaker 2: The nineteen million Yeah, man, you know what, Hey, at
Speaker 2: this point in time, O Joe, Look, you don't get
Speaker 2: healthy during the season because when you when when when
Speaker 2: an average person and he has an injury or he
Speaker 2: has something what they said rest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, say what they tell you.
Speaker 2: They're gonna they're gonna stem you, They're gonna put the
Speaker 2: fifth pt and they're gonna get you out and feel
Speaker 2: the quick as they possibly can.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And you ain't no normal You're not no normal person. You
Speaker 2: don't get to take or what a normal person would
Speaker 2: take six to ten weeks. Oh, they try to get
Speaker 2: you back that thing in two to four. Right, it's
Speaker 2: really that simple. I mean I wish if there's an
Speaker 2: other way around there, guys, but it's just not an
Speaker 2: athlete and but athletes heal faster. We're different. We get
Speaker 2: and like I said, you go to PT. A normal
Speaker 2: person goes to PT, what two times a week?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: You going every single day? Maybe two times a day?
Speaker 2: Maybe you getting PT for two hours. I mean I
Speaker 2: have injury though, Joe that hey, I get think about it.
Speaker 2: I get there at CEL, I've got to be there
Speaker 2: by seven, get out my clothes, getting my A I
Speaker 2: get getting it for two hours, Okay, Lunch, I get it.
Speaker 2: Begin after practice I get it again. So I'm getting
Speaker 2: treated three times a day.
Speaker 1: Okay, I remember them days.
Speaker 3: So uh but that was a definitely.
Speaker 2: I mean I give the bucks a lot of credit
Speaker 2: down there, two top A wide receivers and still put
Speaker 2: up a value and effort.
Speaker 3: I'm impressed. I'm impressed. I thought Baker Baker played well.
Speaker 5: Uh you see banker hold off goddamn Bosa.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm still thought that for a yep.
Speaker 1: Okay, Banker Baker was cooking man. I wanted, I wanted,
Speaker 1: I wanted. I mean, it would have been dope.
Speaker 5: It would have been dope to see the Bucks win
Speaker 5: that game, and that that was a good That was good.
Speaker 1: That was a good game.
Speaker 5: It was those of you that had the opportunity to
Speaker 5: watch that Bucks game that was good.
Speaker 2: Stevens Commanders Russ versus the Rugs Steelers get to win
Speaker 2: against the Commanders twenty eight, twenty seven. At halftime, the
Speaker 2: Steelers had ninety seven yards of total offense. They finished
Speaker 2: with three hundred and twelve. Russ was inconsistent. He was
Speaker 2: fourteen and fifty at fourteen of twenty eight, one hundred
Speaker 2: and ninety five yards, three tds and one I in. T. Daniels,
Speaker 2: who ended the game as an MVP candidate, did not
Speaker 2: have his best game. Completed sixteen to thirty two, one
Speaker 2: ninety four one hundred ninety four yards. Yeah, he missed
Speaker 2: a couple of throws that he liked to have back.
Speaker 2: He had Luke McCaffrey on a crossing route that he
Speaker 2: really would really really would.
Speaker 3: Love to have that one back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But give Russ credit because Russ's I think at
Speaker 2: one point was like nine of twenty, but he picked
Speaker 2: it up. George Pickens made some big time plays. Friar
Speaker 2: Muth came up clutch for him, made some big time plays.
Speaker 2: Austin had a couple of big catches and they were
Speaker 2: able to go on the road. Man, I'm watching this
Speaker 2: game on, Joe. Did you see how many people raving
Speaker 2: them terrible time?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I said, hold on, I'm like, i gotta go back here. Look,
Speaker 2: i gotta see it. This is this in Washington, on
Speaker 2: this the three in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5: When the Steelers play away, they travel extremely well. So
Speaker 5: wherever they play at basically it's their stadium. I'm the
Speaker 5: Steelers will make it they stadium, no matter how far,
Speaker 5: no matter how far they're playing.
Speaker 3: It, don't Joe.
Speaker 2: Because the Steelers were really good in the seventies and
Speaker 2: a lot of people they.
Speaker 3: Now, they got kids, they grew up watching the Steelers.
Speaker 3: They became Steelers fans.
Speaker 2: And a lot of times kids become fans like their
Speaker 2: pants are the teams.
Speaker 3: That their parents route for.
Speaker 2: Right right, right right, So when you go you're absolutely
Speaker 2: right when you go on the road. I'm looking, I'm like,
Speaker 2: hold on, Washington got the ball? Why the crowd is
Speaker 2: in a frenzy. Why they waving the towers, I said, Washington,
Speaker 2: don't raise no towels. Yeah, like, let me go, I said.
Speaker 5: They take it there, take your stay, take your stadium over,
Speaker 5: take your Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a good ass game though.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 5: It was, and I was looking I was listening to
Speaker 5: some of the command of fans. They were upset about
Speaker 5: taking the al today. Do y'all realize, y'all at the
Speaker 5: top of the division. Do you realize you just lost
Speaker 5: only your third game? Do you realize the quarterback that
Speaker 5: you do have at the helm, You have a decade
Speaker 5: plus some of winning football with him as your quarterback.
Speaker 5: Nothing to hang your head on about losing today. It's cool.
Speaker 5: It's cool. I'm happy for rus though. Three stars, he's
Speaker 5: three and oh. A lot of people questioned Mike Tomlin
Speaker 5: putting him back in as a starter. I wouldn't call
Speaker 5: it a gamble, but the gamble that most people say
Speaker 5: it is it's paying off.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And he said himself, Oh so he said to himself,
Speaker 2: he was a lone ranger on this decision.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, but and.
Speaker 2: He said, but he also said, this is why they
Speaker 2: paid me the big bucks to make these decisions, and
Speaker 2: I can. I'm able to stand. And the one thing
Speaker 2: that you know about the Steelers organization, they're always going
Speaker 2: to back their head coach. Yeah, that's why they've only
Speaker 2: had three since nineteen sixty nine. They had Chuck No,
Speaker 2: they head coach Coward, and now they have Mike t
Speaker 2: There's a reason they're not swayed by the media.
Speaker 3: They're not swayed by.
Speaker 2: The fans talking about fired this and fired that. That's
Speaker 2: not how the ruties operate and they don't care about that.
Speaker 2: But uh, the Steelers run their record, they said, firmly
Speaker 2: a top the NF the AFC North with a seventy
Speaker 2: two record, but they haven't played any division games. They
Speaker 2: got two games against Baltimore, two games against Cleveland, two
Speaker 2: games against Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have a lot more.
Speaker 2: We're gonna find a lot more about the Steelers, a
Speaker 2: lot more about the Ravens, and a lot more about
Speaker 2: the Bengals over the next six weeks because I think
Speaker 2: they got I think they in the next six weeks, Oh, Joe,
Speaker 2: I think they got the Ravens twice and the Bengals twice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, I mean, I'm thinking about the damn still
Speaker 5: is sitting on the top of the goddamn yes, she knows.
Speaker 5: And who ever thought last year you didn't even have
Speaker 5: a quarterback. No, last year he didn't have a quarterback.
Speaker 5: And you know you're bringing Russell Wilson, you're bringing Justin Fields.
Speaker 5: Then you have too So I'm thinking, well, hell, they
Speaker 5: got a quarterback Carrouself going on, they definitely gonna be
Speaker 5: lasting in the division. This is how I'm thinking as
Speaker 5: a player. When there's quarterback controversy, it's too much. It's
Speaker 5: too much turmoil. It's too much going on because one
Speaker 5: time they'll put one in and he might not play
Speaker 5: well because there's pressure because he knows. Damn, I can't
Speaker 5: make any mistakes because if I'm make any mistakes, you
Speaker 5: know they're gonna put old boy in them. Yes, so
Speaker 5: you're not able to play freely. You play very conservative football.
Speaker 5: So I'm thinking, yeah, they're still ain't they gonna be
Speaker 5: none today? But Justin Field surprised me the first three weeks.
Speaker 5: They might win at some point when they put Russell in,
Speaker 5: but Justin Fields played well. Now Russell get the goddamn job.
Speaker 5: He's at to him and he cook it. Yeah, cooking
Speaker 5: Justin look good.
Speaker 2: But in order for this to be a success, Justin
Speaker 2: had to do what he was doing because imagine if
Speaker 2: he goes over. So now all of a sudden, you're
Speaker 2: trying to get to five hundred instead of being seventy two.
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin knows his team, He's around this team. He
Speaker 2: knew how his team will respond. He knew he was
Speaker 2: making a very, very tough decision, but he knew that
Speaker 2: he had the type of guys in the locker room
Speaker 2: that would back his decision because they trust him. He's
Speaker 2: given them no reason not to trust him. The organization
Speaker 2: trusts him, and so we should have had faith. I
Speaker 2: should have had faith in Mike Tomlin knowing over the
Speaker 2: last seventeen eighteen years he's been nothing but exemplary. Mike
Speaker 2: Tomlin would ask post game about the similarity is the
Speaker 2: difference between jayde and Daniels and Lamar Jackson. Man, be
Speaker 2: real slow comparing people to Lamar Jackson. That's a multi
Speaker 2: time that's a multi time MVP. That's mister Jackson. We'll
Speaker 2: see mister Jackson in a few days.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't compare the too. Now that there are
Speaker 5: two things that they do are like they can run
Speaker 5: the ball, they can throw the ball. You need two
Speaker 5: completely different type of players all together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look, just because somebody's black and they can
Speaker 2: run the football and throw the football.
Speaker 3: That'll be the lebar.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2: We don't say that about Peyton when saying okay, he white,
Speaker 2: he'll pocket passer. Oh that's Peyton, Manny, Oh he white,
Speaker 2: he can't run, he throw from the pocket. That's Tom Brady.
Speaker 3: We don't do that.
Speaker 2: But they trying to compare justin field the Labar Jackson
Speaker 2: or Michael Vick. Then you can't, will you anybody that
Speaker 2: can run and black and throw? Oh yeah he is
Speaker 2: he that damn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and let the god be him every time.
Speaker 2: Cardinals, Hey, they beat it.
Speaker 1: They beat the dog.
Speaker 5: Now, man, I don't I don't even curse no more,
Speaker 5: so I ain't gonna say it. I got saved.
Speaker 2: The Cardinals beat the Jets thirty one to said ober
Speaker 2: It said, overall a long layoffs there that were not
Speaker 2: prepared to play. That's the coach's job. But anyway, Rogers
Speaker 2: completed one pass that traveled at least ten yards. You're
Speaker 2: talking about a future Hall of Famer quarterback throwing Davonte
Speaker 2: Adams and Gart Wilson. The Cardinals had the twenty fourth
Speaker 2: ranked pass defense. From Rogers to the bottom of the roster,
Speaker 2: the Jets are under half underachieved. OJO on the Woody
Speaker 2: Johnson decision to fire coach Robert Sala after five games
Speaker 2: have backfired mid season trade, but Davonte Adams has not.
Speaker 3: Bore fruit and edim coach Jeff Obert is one in four.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out who's surprised. I tried to
Speaker 2: tell y'all Jets were gonna be no good. Y'all pinned
Speaker 2: all your hopes, all your hopes on a forty year
Speaker 2: old quarterback coming.
Speaker 3: Off an Achilles injury.
Speaker 2: Right, that's really not really invested in the team because
Speaker 2: he goes on p MAC show and he talks about
Speaker 2: everything other than football. Go back and look how Peyton
Speaker 2: Manning ingratiated himself with the Broncos when he left the
Speaker 2: coach after a long time. Go back and look at
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, how he ingratiated himself. How many many camps
Speaker 2: did you think those two guys missed? The four guys
Speaker 2: I met the two guys. I mentioned earlier, how many
Speaker 2: they held special practices, they got the guys together to
Speaker 2: work in offseason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they was different.
Speaker 2: Now you're tone fire the coach, you're the demoted the
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. Yeah, well the defense gave up thirty one.
Speaker 2: Where you know the office is allowed to score more
Speaker 2: than six. Absolutely, because that's the one thing I like
Speaker 2: about football. It's not like when you played one on one.
Speaker 2: You play make it, take it. I make a basket,
Speaker 2: I get take it back out again. Now in football,
Speaker 2: I score touchdown, I kick it off to you. You
Speaker 2: can score too the ball.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they not gonna have they gonna the ain't
Speaker 5: gonna have nobody. Ain't nobody nobody else to fire, ain't
Speaker 5: nobody else to blame you fire.
Speaker 2: It's allah seeing that you gotta be careful. You gotta
Speaker 2: be careful when you do things for the wrong reasons.
Speaker 2: See a lot of times, a lot of this have
Speaker 2: to do and a lot of this have to do
Speaker 2: with him being mad at the Packers for drafting Jordan Love.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go show you that I still got
Speaker 2: something left. If you're not, Oh, Joe, you've heard me
Speaker 2: say it a lot. If you're not careful, you'll become
Speaker 2: the bad thing you despise the most of the person.
Speaker 2: The guy that preceded him, what did he do? He
Speaker 2: got mad because they took a quarterback right And where
Speaker 2: did he go first? When he left Green Bay?
Speaker 3: The Jets.
Speaker 1: That's the same thing, same thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, Devontae Adams had thirteen targets. He caught six
Speaker 2: passes for thirty one yards. Damn he probably thinking I
Speaker 2: could have stayed where I was dead exactly this and
Speaker 2: kept I think the state income taxing Jersey, New York
Speaker 2: wherever it is about ten percent, I pay nothing is cool.
Speaker 3: If the state income tax in New York, New Jersey's
Speaker 3: gotta be like ten percent.
Speaker 1: Ten, who be? I can I catch you? I'll catch
Speaker 1: all at the end of my career. I'll pay you
Speaker 1: back later.
Speaker 3: What's that?
Speaker 2: Jersey is ten point seventy five almost eleven because he
Speaker 2: stays in Jersey, so we don't have to do New York.
Speaker 2: But he stays in Jersey. Nobody stays in the city.
Speaker 2: New York's eleven. So he's playing ten on that ten
Speaker 2: ten point seventy five percent.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Well you know how that is?
Speaker 3: Yeah, hide in giraffe. Huh. But here's the thing, oh show,
Speaker 3: that's the thing.
Speaker 2: You just think, see what Peyton and because remember when
Speaker 2: Peyton got to Denver, they went thirteen and three, they
Speaker 2: won like seven eight games in a row, had the
Speaker 2: number one seed. Baltimore did come in and knock them
Speaker 2: off into the divisional round. Peyton finished second and the
Speaker 2: MVP BO. Then the next year they go to the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Peyton, they break all the records. Peyton over
Speaker 2: fifty four hundred passing yards, NFL record, fifty five touchdowns
Speaker 2: NFL record, go to the Super Bowl. The following year,
Speaker 2: Peyton throws thirty nine touchdowns. We see what Tom does
Speaker 2: his first year there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're like, hey, they do it they Yeah, Bro,
Speaker 1: you wuld expect all the.
Speaker 2: Two natural born leaders, natural people gravitate towards.
Speaker 1: Him, right, But you don't see Aaron as a leader.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 1: I mean just your own personal opinion outside of the
Speaker 1: All I know.
Speaker 2: Is what what what i've what I've read, and what
Speaker 2: I've read what coaches Okay, I see what you mean now, coach,
Speaker 2: excuse me what I've read? When the reports about the
Speaker 2: CEO Mark Murphy, Yes, Sir, Aaron don't you be the problem.
Speaker 3: They don't consult with him.
Speaker 2: They didn't consult with him when they hired right, they
Speaker 2: didn't consult with him when they let somebody go.
Speaker 3: Damn the matter of fact of how he does things.
Speaker 2: When Mike Williams, oh, I would expect the Mike Williams
Speaker 2: to do this, and he read line and he was
Speaker 2: supposed to read line.
Speaker 3: He got, Bro, why would you do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't think, can't throw your play on this?
Speaker 3: Why would you do that?
Speaker 2: Name the time you've ever heard Peyton Manning name, the
Speaker 2: time you've ever heard Peyton or Tom Brady, Because this
Speaker 2: is the guy that he wants to be in the
Speaker 2: category with. When if Tom Brady ever thrown somebody under
Speaker 2: the bus, When if Peyton Manning ever throw somebody.
Speaker 3: They'll eat it.
Speaker 1: They'll eat it, you got every time they'll eat it.
Speaker 2: And then have the conversation with the guys like, look,
Speaker 2: you know, I would expect you to be on the
Speaker 2: red line right, not run the end cut?
Speaker 3: Yeah, every chance he gets. What does he do? You
Speaker 3: saw him in Green Bay?
Speaker 1: Yeah mm hmm.
Speaker 5: He speaking of Mike being on the red line. You
Speaker 5: know they had that exact same play today, Mike. Oh,
Speaker 5: Mike had just had that exact same play today with
Speaker 5: the company.
Speaker 1: Zero and corn. I'm sitting there, squad and waiting on
Speaker 1: the slant.
Speaker 3: Wait real quick, oh Jo, you can't stand that far inside.
Speaker 2: You can't give a receiver with that cant of free
Speaker 2: release to they ve just run straight up the field.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's standing in the inside, which made it
Speaker 5: even worse.
Speaker 3: Pushed to me the further inside.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that was a good player. That was a
Speaker 1: good player.
Speaker 3: About Mike.
Speaker 2: These guys here, oh Joe, these guys are too good
Speaker 2: if you don't put hands on them.
Speaker 1: Oh but he remembers coming zero, so he was off,
Speaker 1: remember he was. He was saying he was sitting No.
Speaker 2: Yes, but oh Joe, you can't be that far inside. Yeah, trip,
Speaker 2: because think about it, you already two yards inside. If
Speaker 2: he stem you inside, now you're gonna be three to four.
Speaker 2: You give that guy so much area to just throw
Speaker 2: the ball. And Russ throws as good as deep ball
Speaker 2: as anybody in the league.
Speaker 5: A little bit. I call it like they called it
Speaker 5: a little moon ball. It comes straight down, right down
Speaker 5: in the bucket. You ain't got no chance to recover.
Speaker 5: I don't care how fast you is.
Speaker 2: No, No, you can't come from that and you get
Speaker 2: he give him a big target because he got all
Speaker 2: this to drop it up.
Speaker 1: He can't.
Speaker 2: He ain't got to drop it down what we call
Speaker 2: trying to. He don't have to drop it down to chimney.
Speaker 2: I got a big old radius that I can throw
Speaker 2: it into. I can throw it here, I can throw
Speaker 2: it here. I can let you over here because I'm
Speaker 2: not worried about the DV. Is it so far behind?
Speaker 2: And then if I throw it over his shoulder, I
Speaker 2: could use my body, O Joe. He's got to come
Speaker 2: through me right to break the play up. But I
Speaker 2: don't think it. I don't, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe Jets fans are surprised, but I'm not.
Speaker 5: I shore hell, I'm surprised. Honestly, I thought a thought.
Speaker 5: I thought things would have been different. I was giving
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers his praise for what I felt he was
Speaker 5: going to be able to do on the field. I
Speaker 5: didn't really care about the stuff he was doing off
Speaker 5: of it. You know, do whatever the hell you want
Speaker 5: too off of it. But he has Yep, I'm expecting
Speaker 5: him to look like maybe not that Aaron Rodgers of bowl.
Speaker 5: Just give me fifty percent of that. Give me fifty
Speaker 5: fifty sixty percent of the old Aaron Rodgers. And I thought,
Speaker 5: you know, the Jets, they're gonna be on one.
Speaker 2: When you're talking about he talked about Kanyenne ward and lemon.
Speaker 1: Who is that?
Speaker 3: How did that work out for him today?
Speaker 1: Kyenne?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kayenne, warter, Cayenne, pepper, water and lemon or it's
Speaker 2: the fountain of you. Even had to even had the
Speaker 2: kicker that drill the field goal. Oh yeah, this thing
Speaker 2: is working. Bro, that stuff don't work. Look, I understand
Speaker 2: all that cleans and you go to these holistic places
Speaker 2: and they give you all that stuff that you get
Speaker 2: it right.
Speaker 1: I ain't never heard of no cayenne.
Speaker 2: I know about the Porsche, Kaye pepper. They put kaye
Speaker 2: and pepper and then put water lemon.
Speaker 3: I mean, what what what?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: What was he had?
Speaker 2: And somebody instaut I've discovered the fountain of you. Clearly,
Speaker 2: you don't watch yourself play because ain't nothing useful about you.
Speaker 2: Ain't nothing. I'm not breaking any new chap. Do y'all
Speaker 2: think there's anything youthful about Aaron Rodgers play?
Speaker 3: Does he.
Speaker 2: Kyenne pepper water. Does he move like he once did?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I gotta I gotta try that man, try
Speaker 1: for what I mean?
Speaker 3: You want to look like he look?
Speaker 2: Nah?
Speaker 1: He said the founder youth.
Speaker 3: How he looked?
Speaker 1: He looks old?
Speaker 2: Okay, So I will stay away from that Caye in
Speaker 2: the water if I was you.
Speaker 1: I know. But you gotta understand. I mean, it's the
Speaker 1: never man. I ain't never man.
Speaker 2: M hm.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: We ate, We aided gracefully.
Speaker 2: The volume