WEBVTT - Likelihoods and the Etling Line

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Solid Verbal I'll that for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be happy, you want to be happy

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<v Speaker 1>for dake Ado State? Is that? Whoo whoom? And Dan

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<v Speaker 1>and Tie welcome back to the Solid Rebel Boys and girls.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Ty Hildebrand, joining me as always over

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<v Speaker 1>there in rainy, very rainy New York City. My man

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I am super excited for Marie Condo Part two? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that what we're doing, That's what I prepare for.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we're doing a Q and A show tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing well, it's sort of a Q and A show, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's we asked for a specific topic. We have a

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<v Speaker 2>specific theme, and we just used people to help us

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<v Speaker 2>source the actual topics. Yes, so it's not a full

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<v Speaker 2>que's there's a section of it that is creatively Q

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<v Speaker 2>and A. I guess the whole thing is creatively Q

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<v Speaker 2>and A. But it's very specific. And I particularly like

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<v Speaker 2>this topic and I like this kind of show because

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<v Speaker 2>I can throw out a number, a likelihood number. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the theme of our show is coming up with likelihood

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<v Speaker 2>percentages of certain events. Happening or not happening. And when

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<v Speaker 2>they do happen, I can SAYH nailed it in June.

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<v Speaker 2>And if it doesn't happen, if say Penn State goes

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<v Speaker 2>oh to three against Michigan Schools and Ohio State, I

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<v Speaker 2>can say, you know I was confident then, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know it's it was an exercise and you know you

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<v Speaker 2>just got to you got to feel through the motions

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<v Speaker 2>to combine like three different idioms.

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<v Speaker 1>So a show like this is at no risk to

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<v Speaker 1>the host. Love a good hedge, no risks at all

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<v Speaker 1>whatsoever to the host.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, I'm Ti. He's Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>Trust me. I'm not b yessing you. I was running

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<v Speaker 1>ties running now I'm not running. I have been talking

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<v Speaker 1>to you, Daniel more over the last three weeks, i'd

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<v Speaker 1>say on a daily basis than ever before. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>say I still like you. You're still a good dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I disagree, but I appreciate you thinking that externally. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's we've had a lot of war room discussions, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of Google documents, more so than usual.

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<v Speaker 1>And go on.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm pretty excited for whatever this potential next version

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<v Speaker 2>of the Solid Verbal is because it's it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't, I don't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give you a hint. It might be

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<v Speaker 2>it might be Barry Alvarez's butt cheeks. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to say, that's for sure. And you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very excited after I made the Nick Saban deep Fakes

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<v Speaker 2>joke that there is a user nick Saban deep fakes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think if we just keep making very specific

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<v Speaker 2>jokes about coaches, eventually people will keep having to sign up.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll have to sign up for the reddit, the subreddit,

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<v Speaker 2>and there will just be a Barry Alvarez's butt cheeks.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just how it works on Reddit.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Daniel, congratulations, Skippy, you've got mail.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got mail on the solid.

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<v Speaker 1>Verbal As often as we can. We like to pay

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<v Speaker 1>know that's expanded. Not just the email, it's also the Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>also the Twitter, also the Instagram, also the Reddit. Any

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<v Speaker 1>which way you can get a question to us. Where

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<v Speaker 1>we've done our best here to compile that into a

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<v Speaker 1>trustee Google document. We're going to work our way through it.

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<v Speaker 1>As you mentioned at top, got some likelihood questions. We've

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<v Speaker 1>also got some other choice questions.

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<v Speaker 2>It will tease it out.

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<v Speaker 1>We will tell you when the football portion of this

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<v Speaker 1>here show has reached its natural conclusion before we dive

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<v Speaker 1>into some of the other topics.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just one main topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Ty It is corporate bathroom meticut correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Corporate bathroom etiquette, behavior, recommendations, strategies. This is something that,

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<v Speaker 2>if all works out in the universe, you will dedicate

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<v Speaker 2>your life, books, podcasts, merchandise, self help seminars to explaining

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<v Speaker 2>how to be the best bathroom attendee.

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<v Speaker 1>We will get into all that and more before where

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<v Speaker 1>we do. I got an email here I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to cover this briefly. At Genlein by the name of Adam,

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<v Speaker 1>who listens religiously to the show, writes in to say

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<v Speaker 1>that his father, Fred, a Notre Dame fan, a verballer,

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<v Speaker 1>currently suffering from lymphomo. Oh no, He just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>know if we could give him a shout out, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we'd be happy to oblige. So Fred, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're out there, if you're listening, do your best, keep

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<v Speaker 1>up the good fight, keep watching those irish and stay solid.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Yeah, shout out Fred?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Where do we want to go? First? In?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So the exercise is quite simple. We asked for

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<v Speaker 2>you to submit a potential twenty nineteen situation say, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said before, Penn State goes two to one against

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<v Speaker 2>the Michigan schools in Ohio State. I believe two of

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<v Speaker 2>those are on the road, and we are just going

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<v Speaker 2>to come up with a percentage of this is how

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<v Speaker 2>likely it is to happen. And in my mind I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about, like if the season we're played one hundred times,

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<v Speaker 2>this many times and these this many simulations, it would

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<v Speaker 2>actually happen. If that, If that jibes with how your

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<v Speaker 2>brain is working, sure, if not, whatever, So let's start there.

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<v Speaker 2>Penn State, who is a little bit thinner, had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of transfers this past offseason, which is gonna happen

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<v Speaker 2>with you know, recruiting on the high level that they did.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they finished with in terms of class I

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<v Speaker 2>think they were top ten with regards to like the

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<v Speaker 2>average grade. So they're bringing in a ton of great athletes.

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<v Speaker 2>Two and one are better against Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>State two and one or from the Maui beer guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going under. So if I'm putting a percentage on that,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand I already broke the rule. I'm sorry. Thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three percent chance that they go too and one against

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<v Speaker 1>that competition.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've got thirty percent. Yeah, it's a tough road.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you hear like when you put your ear

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<v Speaker 2>to the ground an Eastern peak? Are you asking for

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<v Speaker 2>some inside information here? Do? What do you hear about

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<v Speaker 2>Shan Clifford.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I'm hearing, to be honest, I

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<v Speaker 1>am hearing in general, I think an optimistic tone from

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Penn State fans. Sean Clifford. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a four star kid. Sean Clifford had an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>play a little bit last year. Ye all in all,

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<v Speaker 1>the reviews on him were pretty positive. He played in

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<v Speaker 1>the spring game. Remember we thought Tommy Stevens was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the guy, But Thomas Stevens is moving on.

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<v Speaker 2>So starting at Mississippi State.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it'll be at Misissippi State. So you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the reviews on Clifford have been positive, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think those are very much tempered by the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he's not Trace McSorley, And therein lies the source of

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<v Speaker 1>the angst if you're a Penn State fan, because Trace

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<v Speaker 1>was there, obviously the most winningest quarterback in the history

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<v Speaker 1>of the program, set a ton of passing records and

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<v Speaker 1>was a winner through and through. It's a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>go from first off in offense that had Joe Morehead

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<v Speaker 1>and Saquon Barkley, trace mcsorrely in a better receiving corps

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<v Speaker 1>and now kind of dwindled down because college football naturally

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<v Speaker 1>cycles itself through to essentially a whole new cast of characters.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think there is cause for optimism, but also

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<v Speaker 1>cause for a little bit of like, let's wait and

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<v Speaker 1>see with Clifford.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're saying it's not super likely that they win

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<v Speaker 2>two of those three, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>No, because the Ohio State games on the road late

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<v Speaker 1>in the year, Ohio State is going to be tuned

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<v Speaker 1>up for that one, you know it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure Ohio State and Michigan both have pretty

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<v Speaker 2>easy It's like Rutgers before for Ohio State, and I

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<v Speaker 2>believe it's Illinois before Penn State for Michigan. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And on the Penn State side, they're on the road

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<v Speaker 1>at Iowa a week before they come home to play Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that game is a week before they traveled

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<v Speaker 1>East Lansing to play Michigan States. That's a tough stretch

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<v Speaker 1>there in mid to late October. I just you can

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<v Speaker 1>say that they're not going too and one against those

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<v Speaker 1>three teams and still mean no disrespect to Penn State.

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<v Speaker 1>I would expect Michigan and Ohio State are both going

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<v Speaker 1>to be pretty good this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Couple of these well, first of all, we also got like,

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<v Speaker 2>is James Franklin going to be the coach next year

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<v Speaker 2>or in two years or in four years? And like

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<v Speaker 2>man Penn State fans, Wow tough. I'd put it sixty

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<v Speaker 2>percent that he will be in I think three years

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<v Speaker 2>sixty percent. Herefore, yeah, I'd put it right around there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think more likely than not Seth Latrell coaches a

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<v Speaker 2>Power five team in twenty twenty. North Texas has done well,

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<v Speaker 2>has been on this show, has done a really good

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<v Speaker 2>job as part of a development team for a quarterbacks everywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Foles, a couple guys at North Carolina, Mason Fine

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<v Speaker 2>was his name was brought up for Kansas State this year,

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<v Speaker 2>went to Oklahoma. From Oklahoma, doesn't look like an Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 2>job will be available. But if we're focusing southwest south,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think Seth Latrell is a Power five coach?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to happen eighty percent eighty percent,

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<v Speaker 1>eighty percent of the job.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the range of job? Like I could see dominoes

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<v Speaker 2>if Matt Campbell leaves Iowa State is does do you

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<v Speaker 2>leave North Texas for Iowa State?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not, No, not if you're not if you're second kill.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he can wait on something. He could definitely

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<v Speaker 1>wait on something. The question is will he you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it's not a job in the heartland where

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he's more familiar or in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Texas see opens up or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, someone's gonna want his services, even if.

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<v Speaker 2>It's s C too big a job for Ceth Probably,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's gonna be Jack del Rio again. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean he's always in the running day. Seth Litrall does

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<v Speaker 2>a great job at Arizona running that offense for a

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<v Speaker 2>number of years.

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<v Speaker 1>I M.

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<v Speaker 2>There's part of me that says that USC would whiff

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<v Speaker 2>on their first three. Of coursely Seth Latrell, that's how

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<v Speaker 2>you get Jack del Rio. But maybe Graham Harrell is

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly a USC. And we had somebody asking us I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was one fell swoop a long time for

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<v Speaker 2>Baller about Graham Harrell and could he potentially take over.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a couple of USC success catapulting Graham Harrell

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<v Speaker 2>into Power five job consideration, or Graham Harrel takes over

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<v Speaker 2>as an interim guy if Clay Helton has fired mid season,

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<v Speaker 2>which I don't know if that's gonna happen. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what the point of that would be unless he's

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<v Speaker 2>putting players in danger or something. That's a big leap

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<v Speaker 2>for Graham Harrell. I think he's thirty four, what three

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<v Speaker 2>three thirty four, That feels like a huge leap, But

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he has huge success. I think Seth Latrell, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying yes, I think more likely. Yeah, I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 2>more likely than not. I'm gonna say fifty five. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fifty five. That okay, I'm going a little boulder

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<v Speaker 2>with eighty. I think it'll happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you honestly where, but my guess is,

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<v Speaker 1>with the way he's turned North Texas around in very

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<v Speaker 1>short order, someone's gonna want those services.

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<v Speaker 2>Mentioned it just momentarily. Matt Campbell is still the Iowa

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<v Speaker 2>state head coach following the end of the twenty nineteen season.

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<v Speaker 1>This is kind of the same question, right, It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the same question. Matt Campbell obviously a lot higher profile.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's succeeding at a Power five place.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So I guess the question is, all right, where

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<v Speaker 1>else would he go? Because it's a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a different scenario in the case of Campbell, because he

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<v Speaker 1>would be looking for a step up for sure. What

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<v Speaker 1>would that step up look like for Matt Campbell?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, I thought he would have left after last year

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't have job. I don't know. I don't know again.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop trying to pin me down.

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<v Speaker 2>On was the Ohio State job was the one that

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<v Speaker 2>he was tied to before it became clear that Ryan

0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Day was just going to ascend to the head coaching position.

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<v Speaker 1>I still feel like it's more likely than not. But

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<v Speaker 1>my confidence, I gotta be honest, is pretty damn shaken

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<v Speaker 1>after last year. So I'm going to go like fifty

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<v Speaker 1>two percent, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Have forty one. I don't think he is going to be,

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<v Speaker 2>but I I think we are due for a good

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<v Speaker 2>number of big ten changes.

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<v Speaker 1>What it is was the question he will be or

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<v Speaker 1>he won't be. He is still Iowa State.

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<v Speaker 2>So by me saying forty one, I'm saying it's less

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<v Speaker 2>than fifty to fifty that he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me let me go inverted version of my previous

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<v Speaker 1>statement and say forty eight percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty eight percent, so slightly less than toss up correct.

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<v Speaker 2>What are the jobs if because he's from Ohio, which

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<v Speaker 2>again that doesn't necessary, he could go to USC, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>and that I think that would be a nice win

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<v Speaker 2>for sc But what are the jobs that presumably if

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<v Speaker 2>he is going to be picky, which I think he

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<v Speaker 2>should be, I think he's going to be in demand enough,

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<v Speaker 2>being young, energetic and well liked and recruiting super well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he can be choosy. So what what does

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<v Speaker 2>that mean to you? It could blue.

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<v Speaker 1>Blood only, it could mean the NFL, could mean the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's, you know, short of knowing details

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<v Speaker 1>about who's on the hot seat and who isn't right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that seems like a more like the scenario.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody in the NFL would want him, you think so?

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<v Speaker 2>I think was his name come? I know James Franklin's

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<v Speaker 2>name has come up.

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<v Speaker 1>If James Franklin's Name's coming up, Matt Campbell's name should

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<v Speaker 1>come up too.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say to never count out the Michigan schools

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<v Speaker 2>right now, just with I mean D'Antonio might be there

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<v Speaker 2>for the next thirty five years. I don't know. At

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan State, but we'll see. With Harbaugh, I think he'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to be there for a long time. But who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>Other than that, there's not you know, you could have

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<v Speaker 2>a surprise retirement like Kirk Farence or something. What about

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<v Speaker 2>it's not blue blood?

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<v Speaker 1>What about a job like UCLA if your theory holds.

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<v Speaker 1>If my theory holds, and Chip Kelly calls a quits,

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<v Speaker 1>that could be an intriguing place, top job, hire a

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<v Speaker 1>young coming coach. I think he's just going to keep

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for a Midwest or Southern blue blood. We keep

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for the thing with Gus Melzon to explode at Auburn.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not convinced at this point it ever happens, but

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<v Speaker 1>they would probably be Oh, it will definitely happen eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>You will definitely happen. Eventually. It will.

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<v Speaker 2>That'd be such a wild fit. I love that. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>I can be talked into that. Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>What's what's Matt Luke's status at Old Miss.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he's there, he is there, He's showing up

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<v Speaker 2>for work, is they're riding out their situation. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that's I don't think Matt Campbell needs to go

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<v Speaker 2>to Old Miss. Just throwing out potentially here, Dan, he's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be choosier than Old Miss. Next one, I love

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<v Speaker 2>this one. Alabama has two losses before bowl season.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa before bowl season? Ah? Yes, I have it at

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<v Speaker 1>two percent. Two regular season losses is what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Two regular season losses. I have it at two percent.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm curious to hear from you. What are the

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<v Speaker 2>two games? And I have Alabama's edule up right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so we've got road game wise. Just give me their

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<v Speaker 2>two most likely road game wise. It's Duke Neutral. God,

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds like such a good name. South Carolina, Texas

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<v Speaker 2>A and M Mississippi State Auburn. With Mississippi State coming

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<v Speaker 2>traditionally as it does after the LSU game on.

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<v Speaker 1>The road, I guess you got to throw A and

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<v Speaker 1>M in there.

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<v Speaker 2>A M is a very difficult place to play.

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<v Speaker 1>Difficult place to play. Kellen mand Back A.

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<v Speaker 2>Couple of years ago, I had a made place against Alabama.

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<v Speaker 1>Good coach that I've got confidence in. They've recruited.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, your too, Mike Elco. Yeah, A and M.

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<v Speaker 1>I think is a possibility if we're gonna split hairs.

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<v Speaker 1>There is the Auburn game late in the year. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what's going to happen at Auburn. There's some

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<v Speaker 1>turnover at Auburn, especially at quarterback, but presumably by late

0:16:56.600 --> 0:17:00.400
<v Speaker 1>November they'll have that sorted out. Ord knows by late November.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, that didn't sort the running game out, which

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<v Speaker 1>could be an issue again this year if they don't

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<v Speaker 1>figure something out in the interim. But the Mississippi State

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still not buying in on the Mississippi State upset

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<v Speaker 1>potential there. Wow, I like Joe Moorehead, But then the

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<v Speaker 1>other game I guess that jumps out at me regular

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<v Speaker 1>season wise would have to be LSU.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do it. I actually have Mississippi State and

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<v Speaker 2>Auburn as and mostly for situational reasons a week after

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<v Speaker 2>LSU and going to Starkville with what I still believed

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<v Speaker 2>to be a coach who can engineer a pretty decent

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<v Speaker 2>offense any week of the year in Joe Moorehead Auburn

0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:44.679
<v Speaker 2>Gus Melsan supposedly isn't back, is back in control of

0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:49.320
<v Speaker 2>this Auburn offense, so situationally, more time for Alabama players,

0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.919
<v Speaker 2>not hoping this on anybody to get hurt, perhaps crucial ones.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have late in the year as being those

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<v Speaker 2>answers because I don't see that obvious team that has

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<v Speaker 2>that mix of fearless quarterback, tall receivers and defense who

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<v Speaker 2>can withstand Alabama. I don't see that combination. But if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna buy low on anybody right now, it's Mississippi State,

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<v Speaker 2>and hey, maybe Tommy Stevens is pretty good. Know it's

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<v Speaker 2>Joe moorehead system.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I'm gonna do is the thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>see them doing all the time. On like five thirty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go a less than one percent chance. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there were no there were no stipulations in your rule

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<v Speaker 1>set that these needed to be positive integers.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me like a point eight percent chance of Alabama

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<v Speaker 1>with two losses pre Bowl season.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe Nielsen rates shows that are below a

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<v Speaker 2>certain threshold, that's right. I think it's like ten thousand

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<v Speaker 2>viewers or something. So it's na na, yeah, na, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that works for me. Next item, let's do a good one,

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<v Speaker 2>but bu bu ba. I like this one a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma fields a top fifty defense this season. I like

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<v Speaker 2>h higher, Alex Crinch.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the question.

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<v Speaker 2>Now when we say top fifty defense, we have to

0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:12.480
<v Speaker 2>be specific. You could do yards per play. I have

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<v Speaker 2>tended to gravitate these past couple of years. Two points

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<v Speaker 2>per drive. Okaynyson, it's it's pay s adjusted. I like that. Mond.

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<v Speaker 1>This is also sort of your own made up statistic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not. Brian Fremo has a site that does this,

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<v Speaker 2>and it eliminates garbage time. It is legit. He is

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<v Speaker 2>half of the F plus system. I'm all in. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is no longer analytics. You can divide.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything by anything and come up with your own stat

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<v Speaker 1>that's true, but this is more official. He's part of

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<v Speaker 1>Football Outsiders. I trust him. I know the name, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't mean too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now you're casting aspersions. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't mean to cast aspersions. But I still

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<v Speaker 1>feel like this is a little bit of a made

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<v Speaker 1>up statistic. Just me, How is it made up? To meetup?

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<v Speaker 2>It's just easy. He eliminated garbage time.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what do you got?

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<v Speaker 2>So this is what I'm this is what I'm using.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's nice, so I say sixty percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's more likely than not that Oklahoma has

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<v Speaker 2>a huge rebounding season on defense, because I don't know

0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:19.480
<v Speaker 2>how much I fully trust offenses with new coaches, new quarterbacks,

0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:21.320
<v Speaker 2>and the Big Twelve last year was really fun because

0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:25.280
<v Speaker 2>it was a bunch of returning guys. This year, we'll see,

0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:27.320
<v Speaker 2>we will see. I mean, there's there's a ton up

0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:30.680
<v Speaker 2>in the air with Texas Tech, with Kansas State. I mean,

0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:35.240
<v Speaker 2>let's not be super worried about Kansas, but TCU as

0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:39.240
<v Speaker 2>a basically a brand new quarterback room. I am. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>feeling bullish about Oklahoma fielding a confusing ghost What did

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<v Speaker 2>I say? Seeing ghosts? A ghost full defense? In Norman?

0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:53.240
<v Speaker 2>When Alex Grinch was at Washington State, his worst points

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<v Speaker 2>per drive defense, if that's a metric that we're comfortable with,

0:20:56.080 --> 0:21:02.120
<v Speaker 2>was fifty third nationally with lesser talent, so pace adjusted.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if there is a lot of points and yards

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<v Speaker 2>in Oklahoma games, I think it's more likely than not

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<v Speaker 2>that they're an actual pretty good defense with a full

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<v Speaker 2>off season reboot.

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<v Speaker 1>What was Oklahoma's rating last year by your.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, was it not good? It was in the hundreds.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I can dial it up right now, you know, pin

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<v Speaker 2>my ears back.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, dial up Big twelves. Big twelve is a tough conference.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's one hundred and thirteenth. Yeah, you got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of high powered offense in the Big twelve. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's not not app to changing time soon. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the style of play. We've said for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time that, first off, if you're Oklahoma, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily need to get into the top fifty to make

0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:46.960
<v Speaker 1>a sizable impression with a competent defense. It just needs

0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:49.200
<v Speaker 1>to be somewhat more competent than it's been. That would

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<v Speaker 1>have made a serious impact over the last couple of

0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:55.000
<v Speaker 1>years if it were the case in Norman. I look,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what statistic we should use, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know that Alex Grinch has been really good everywhere he's been,

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<v Speaker 1>and furthermore, he's made a pretty immediate impact. So I

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<v Speaker 1>am more inclined to believe that it's going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>than not. What do you say, sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>Percent to sixty percent, I'll go sixty five percent sixty

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<v Speaker 2>five percent.

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<v Speaker 1>I really trust in Alex grinch. I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Stanford was the fiftieth last year nationally in defensive points

0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:27.000
<v Speaker 2>allowed per drive, So yeah, I don't think that's a

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<v Speaker 2>crazy threshold. Next item, Tie, we will hear so likelihood

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<v Speaker 2>percent chance we will hear about Kirk Farence's tenure at

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<v Speaker 2>Iowa and the culture he has built in Iowa's I've

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<v Speaker 2>had one hundred and forty seven percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to admire what Kirk Farence is built here

0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:51.159
<v Speaker 2>at Iowa. He is the dean of Big tenn.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we talk briefly about the time we interviewed Kirk Farence.

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<v Speaker 1>He was great, again we can very nice. Yeah, a

0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:01.280
<v Speaker 1>little short on personality, but that's he's a football coach.

0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Those are your words. I thought he was delightful, very

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:06.840
<v Speaker 1>nice guy. No, very nice guy, but honest to god.

0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:09.639
<v Speaker 1>We could quit this show tomorrow and if you asked

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<v Speaker 1>me one of my top ten top fifteen moments of

0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:15.640
<v Speaker 1>doing the show, it would be that moment when we

0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:21.520
<v Speaker 1>asked coach Ferrence, what is your favorite TV show? And

0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:23.439
<v Speaker 1>he didn't he did not have an answer.

0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:26.359
<v Speaker 2>They're not like you and I Tie, I know, but

0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:28.919
<v Speaker 2>he didn't have an answer. He didn't even make one up.

0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:31.600
<v Speaker 2>He didn't even try. He's like, ah, I respect that.

0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:34.359
<v Speaker 2>There are some people who will answer that question and

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<v Speaker 2>make up an answer, and they'll just say I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Sopranos like, oh yeah, anything resonate the Italians. I respect

0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 2>him saying no, I'm not saying I lost any respect

0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:48.680
<v Speaker 2>for him.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just it was such such a moment where

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:54.560
<v Speaker 1>you could see that he he had nothing, and he

0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:57.879
<v Speaker 1>didn't really try to make anything up. He just he

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<v Speaker 1>had nothing. It's such a common question, and he's like, nah,

0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:03.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just I don't know. I got no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>You ever get asked like, hey, you reading anything good?

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<v Speaker 2>I hate that question. I hate that question. Uh huck finn.

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I never have an answer.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I sometimes read books, and I sometimes don't

0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:19.959
<v Speaker 2>read books because I stare at screens all day and

0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:22.480
<v Speaker 2>sometimes I just like zoning out and hanging with my

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:24.399
<v Speaker 2>wife and eating Greek food or something.

0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I desperately want to be known as someone that reads

0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:32.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of good books. Yeah, I can't honestly say

0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:35.119
<v Speaker 1>I've read a full book in a long time, and

0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:38.840
<v Speaker 1>really most of the time, this is a show about honesty.

0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:42.160
<v Speaker 1>If I've got an hour to kill at night. We're

0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:43.680
<v Speaker 1>popping in FIFA nineteen dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, I thought you gave. I thought you retired.

0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I did well. I retired for a while. But then

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<v Speaker 1>they put some there hold you back in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think they adjusted some of the difficulty to

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:59.440
<v Speaker 1>make it seem a little easier. I also stopped playing

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.640
<v Speaker 1>online and started playing in the small offline dynasty mode,

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:04.400
<v Speaker 1>where I've got difficulty cranked way down.

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:05.680
<v Speaker 2>You put some bumpers on it.

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:06.720
<v Speaker 1>It's more fulfilling now.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, I am reading a good but I happened

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 2>to be reading a good book now. But so if

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 2>anybody wants to read Range by David Epstein, I recommend it.

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:18.439
<v Speaker 2>It's really good. I tried the audiobook thing. It's just

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:21.399
<v Speaker 2>it's I don't mind that. Especially for road trips or

0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:22.400
<v Speaker 2>long commutes, they're good.

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I did listen to actually an audiobook, The full drive

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<v Speaker 1>home from your wedding in Chicago.

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that was right, that was fun. But's wife Kate

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:35.120
<v Speaker 2>got sick and you guys had to you were grounded.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. The percent chance that Army goes into the Big

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 2>House September seventh beats Michigan Army is going to be

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:48.359
<v Speaker 2>pretty good this year. I like that sound you just made. Yeah,

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:49.240
<v Speaker 2>they'll be good.

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:52.679
<v Speaker 1>Army is going to be pretty good this year. They

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 1>may not beat Michigan, but they're going to be pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good this season.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Wow.

0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:01.399
<v Speaker 1>So they play September seventh, mm hmm. Tough system to

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<v Speaker 1>prepare for.

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Their coach should be at Kansas right now. Wow, this

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 2>chi loses a good amount up front. Didn't Army have

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma on the ropes? Was it last year or the

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:13.120
<v Speaker 2>year before? Yeah? And that was on pay per view

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 2>the great like Twitch Night of twenty eighteen, and everybody

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 2>looked at like, oh, Kyler Murley on one hundred and

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty yards but it was like fifteen yards per attempt

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:27.159
<v Speaker 2>or something. It's that was that last year. It probably.

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<v Speaker 1>It probably shouldn't be higher than like ten percent mm hmm,

0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:35.439
<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna put it at like sixteen percent. I

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:37.360
<v Speaker 1>got it like forty really.

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's gonna be something weird early on this year

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 2>with a national title contender. It's just it's been so

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 2>boring with the top teams, the teams that are allegedly contenders.

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I think it's going to be a very strange September,

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 2>and this is one of those reasons. So it's less

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 2>likely that it happens in my mind. But man, to

0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 2>just like jump into the season, I don't know. Who

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 2>does Michigan have Week one? I'll pull it up, okay,

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:04.919
<v Speaker 2>But to jump into the season they have Okay, so

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 2>they have Middle Tennessee, which has been a decent program.

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 2>But to jump into the season and get Army and

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 2>it's before bye week, which is nice, but whoof I

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I'll go a little bit.

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 1>They're down a lot upfront. I really like Army this year.

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:24.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know Devin Bush realistically enough to beat Michigan.

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Will Hudson's back, Okay, all right?

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>What else?

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Dana Holgerson wins nine games at Houston this year?

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:34.400
<v Speaker 1>WHOA?

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I have it at thirty six percent, and that's because

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 2>I think it's fewer than nine. I love Deeric King.

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:43.920
<v Speaker 2>He's not gonna be do He's coming off of a

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, pretty rough injury. And even if he gets

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:51.119
<v Speaker 2>back to roughly where he was as one of the

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 2>more underrated players in terms of electricity nationally, Buddy, that

0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:01.159
<v Speaker 2>defense was rough that back half of twenty eighteen. That

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Houston defense was dropped, getting forties and fifties dropped on them.

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:08.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And the problem with Holgerson is when you're looking

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:10.879
<v Speaker 1>at his skill set, you're not looking at a coach

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 1>like him and saying, this is a defense a specialists

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:17.439
<v Speaker 1>who can come in and immediately make our defense a

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 1>top four unit.

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I thought he hired pretty well at West Virginia. I

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:24.159
<v Speaker 2>thought Tony Gibson did a good job turning around what

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:27.640
<v Speaker 2>started out as a nightmare of a defense for West

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Virginia and turned them into a downright feisty unit.

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there are immediately two losses on here.

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 2>It's going to take some time immediately two loss.

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 1>At Oklahoma to open up the year, at UCF to

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 1>open up November.

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Those are Texas. You're just writing that in as a loss.

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>That's a loss.

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 2>That's only Kensey Milton, Okay, Brandon wood bush Baby. I

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 2>like the other guy they had at the end of

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 2>last year.

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 1>He was real good, wasn't he.

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, not great against LSU, but he was he

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 2>was fun against Memphis. I have them winning fewer this

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 2>schedule is so that what they lose to SMU and Temple,

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 2>they don't have Temple on the schedule this year. Yeah,

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Wazoo Oklahoma at UCF Memphis. I think Brady White's eligible

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 2>for a ninth year. I don't know what's going on

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 2>with Navy, but yeah, I think they lose another one

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:26.479
<v Speaker 2>beyond that, whether it's Tulane North Texas, Tulane should be

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 2>really really fun upfront on defense, So yeah, I have

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I have a seven to five year for Houston year one,

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 2>but ascending. I think they're going. They're on their way up. Yeah,

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 2>a lot of shootouts. I think they'll be one of

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 2>the more fun teams to watch nationally. Texas and Oklahoma

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 2>again split the Red River Rivalry shootout whatever and the

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Big twelve championship.

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Ooh good.

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 2>One wins the first and then they not only do

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 2>they end up but the other team ends up winning

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 2>in the championship.

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it's likely that they're playing each other twice again, Okay,

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 1>so there's at least the chance of it happening. And

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you play the same team twice, it

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 1>is easier. I think it's easier for the opponent to

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>change the result the second time through.

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a super tight game the first time

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 2>last year.

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I love Texas this year, because I love Texas every year.

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Even though I think Oklahoma's probably got more talent, I

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>will put this one at a straight up fifty percent.

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Really, so, not only do they face each other twice,

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 2>which is not the most likely thing, but it's probably

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 2>the most likely matchup as we sit now. So not

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 2>only do they play each other twice, but they split results. Okay,

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 2>I have it at twenty five. I understand the lodge.

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of balls in the air in the

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Big twelve. Yeah, Stanford has another Heisman caliber running back.

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Parenthetically that we'll finish second in Heisman voting to a

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 2>non Pac twelve player despite having better numbers. It's six percent.

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Let's go that the talent is not in that backfield.

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:06.719
<v Speaker 2>Let's go six percent on this end as well. I

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 2>also think they're shifting strategically. With kJ Costello being the

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 2>clear big weapon for this offense, I think they're gonna

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 2>be throwing a lot more. So. Yeah, six percent feels

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 2>about right to me. Arkansas makes a bowl game. Ooh,

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:29.479
<v Speaker 2>so this is what has to happen. Has to happen.

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Arkansas has to start out four and oh yes, and

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 2>looking if they don't start out four and oh, then

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty much over Portland State, Ole Miss, Colorado State,

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 2>San Jose State. Three of those four the non ole

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Miss game all at home, So they need to start

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 2>out four and oh, and we have to have an uncomfortable,

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 2>uncomfortable conversation about like, yeah, I know they're four and oh,

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 2>but A and M on neutral fields and then the

0:31:57.240 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 2>road games from their Kentucky, Alabama LSU, So they have

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 2>to win those four. They're gonna have to hope for

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 2>some sort of face plant from Miszoo to finish out

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 2>the season without Drew Locke. They have Western Kentucky. That

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 2>has to be the six. I mean, traveling to Kentucky

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 2>is gonna be real tough. Yeah, I don't know who

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 2>gets overlooked. I don't have the letdown look ahead body

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 2>blow ish, but I don't. I still don't see it.

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm still not confident in quarterback and I'm very, very

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 2>wary on this defense. So I think their absolute best

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 2>case scenario this year is four inn eight because somebody

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 2>else asks fourn eight is their best case scenario, and

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 2>that means winning those three early non conference and sneaking

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 2>by somebody Ole Miss missoo. I don't even know who.

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 1>What's so you're saying fournate's the best case scenario.

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Fourn eight is the best case snario for Arkansas this year.

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>You're not even imagining a scenario in which they could

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>go six and six.

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't see it. I think there's too much.

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I think the recruiting that Chad Morris has done has

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 2>been impressive, and I think it'll continue to be. So

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 2>there's I know, promising blue chip quarterback who's coming in.

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:14.400
<v Speaker 2>But I mean even somebody else asked, just for context,

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's Zach here Arkansas wins at least

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 2>one SEC game frownie face, and so it's at Ole

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 2>miss and Miszoo for me and Massu's a good team.

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 2>That's just the fact that they lose Drew Locke is

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 2>what the only reason I'm going with them. I have

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 2>it like nineteen percent of them winning at least one

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay Conference.

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Odds of them making a ball I'll say like eight percent.

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Michigan wins the Big Ten. So John Brown, that's it,

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 2>No no stipulation giving you give me a qualification. Michigan

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 2>wins the Big Ten. Picture, How that happens. I think

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty obvious. Josh Gaddis works out the defense, reloads

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 2>really well, but does not make it to the playoff.

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 1>WHOA all right, First and foremost.

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 2>What needs to happen for a Big Ten champion, blue

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 2>blood Michigan.

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I not make the playoffs. I am very bullish

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 1>on Michigan this year. Yeah, and some of the very

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:19.840
<v Speaker 1>very early reading I've done on Michigan, I'm going to

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 1>be very high in the Wolverines this season, just giving you,

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 1>giving you four gat Yeah, I am. I am in

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 1>on the Wolverines. So if we assume for a second

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 1>that Michigan is winning the Big Ten, that means in

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 1>order to do so, they've got to go through a

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 1>team like Ohio State to do it at home at home,

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:43.440
<v Speaker 1>They've got to go through Penn State. They've got to

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 1>go through Michigan State, who hopefully will be better Wisconsin.

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Nebraska shelled completely shelled Penn State last year.

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Right, So it like, if you make it through the

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Big Ten, that's already a hell of a resume, yep,

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 1>which you would think should should put them in a

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 1>good position and to move forward into the playoff. It

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>then becomes a question of who else around college football

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>is also eligible. Let's assume it's Oklahoma or Texas in

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 1>the Big Twelve. Let's assume it's Alabama again in the SEC,

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Clemson in the ACC. I think we're in agreement that

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 1>whoever comes out of the Pac twelve is probably not

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 1>going to make that playoff. And I don't think that

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:27.799
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame's going on a repeat performance like they did

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 1>last year. So if they win the Big Ten, I

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 1>think it's likely that they also get in the playoff.

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:36.839
<v Speaker 1>And I'm pretty high in their Big Ten chances. He's

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 1>saying that they win the Big Ten but don't go

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:42.799
<v Speaker 1>to the playoff, correct, I think it's pretty low that

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 1>that happens. I'll put that out like five percent.

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame has a bye week before Michigan between USC

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:53.359
<v Speaker 2>and Michigan, which I believe Michigan has before Notre Dame

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Penn State on the road, so advantage Notre Dame. All

0:35:57.680 --> 0:35:59.919
<v Speaker 2>really Michigan has to do to win the Big Ten

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 2>and not go to the playoff is survive Army, win

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 2>that game seventeen fourteen and lose comfortably, lose thirty one

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:14.400
<v Speaker 2>seventeen to Notre Dame right and run the table in

0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 2>the Big Ten, and all of a sudden we have

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 2>a comfortable loss and a shaky ish win. I don't think.

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't think barely getting my army is shaky, But

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 2>in the minds of on the margin voting, I think

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:30.920
<v Speaker 2>that's the scenario, and they'll finish out the season in

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:34.760
<v Speaker 2>that scenario, beating Michigan State at Ohio State and whoever

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Northwestern Wisconsin again in the Big Ten championship game. I

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 2>have it at twelve percent because it's just hard for

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 2>me to see a Michigan team.

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't see it.

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 2>If they're good enough to be beating Ohio State and

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:51.759
<v Speaker 2>a West champion, they should be good enough to beat

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame at home.

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:56.719
<v Speaker 1>I feel pretty good about Michigan's chances there if they

0:36:56.760 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 1>win the Big Ten, also making in the playoff.

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 2>Could you imagine a season in which Michigan goes into

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:08.480
<v Speaker 2>the Maryland game undefeated, is looking ahead to the bye week,

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:12.640
<v Speaker 2>and then just gets shelled at Maryland and finishes out

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 2>winning the Big Ten, and Michigan has to have the

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 2>same conversations to talk themselves or to talk other people

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:22.440
<v Speaker 2>into Michigan as a playoff team that Ohio State has

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:25.319
<v Speaker 2>had to have had to have after losing the way

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:28.840
<v Speaker 2>they did to Iowa and Purdue these past couple of years.

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 1>That Maryland gives one game, that Maryland game is potentially

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 1>an open face, let down look ahead sandwich. Yeah, oh,

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 1>it absolutely is open and, by the way, followed in

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>close succession by the Indiana game, which is the ultimate

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:45.319
<v Speaker 1>let down look ahead sandwich. In between a home game

0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:48.319
<v Speaker 1>against Michigan State and a home game against Ohio State

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 1>on the road a Memorial Stadium in Bloomington.

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Have you had a chance to figure out your can't

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 2>fully explain it crushes for twenty nineteen, it's very early.

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>It's very early. You should always assume Texas well.

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm saying, like last year you were like, you're

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:08.000
<v Speaker 2>feeling hot and bothered for Indiana. I was, yeah, I

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 2>was like MARYL, I don't know, I don't know who

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 2>is it? Ty?

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know yet. I haven't. I haven't come to

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:18.439
<v Speaker 1>that conclusion yet. It will when it happens. Though. It's

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 1>never a situation where I am consciously deciding on the crush.

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:26.280
<v Speaker 1>It's always a Harry Potter thing where like the wand

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 1>chooses the wizard. It just it just comes to me.

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:31.799
<v Speaker 1>You wake up in a cold sweat. I just don't

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:35.759
<v Speaker 1>have any oh something like that.

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Syracuse makes a New year Six Bowl, a New

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Year's six Bowl. Yeah no, no Grungy or Dungee anymore. No,

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 2>it's all Deviats.

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right. The schedule here, I've looked at it.

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 2>There is a path.

0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:56.320
<v Speaker 1>There is a path.

0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 2>They have to be Clemson in the Dome, and they

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:03.719
<v Speaker 2>have to, like very strangely, win a tiebreaker with Clemson

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 2>to win the Atlantic.

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 1>If Syracuse were to run the table but lose to Clemson,

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 1>so they go eleven and one, yeah, I'm not saying

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:21.400
<v Speaker 1>that's likely. Put that at like eight percent. But if

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:23.760
<v Speaker 1>they go eleven and one with one loss to Clemson,

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:25.759
<v Speaker 1>that still probably gets them in a New Year's six

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Bowl game, doesn't it?

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Eleven and one not making Yeah, absolutely probably.

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:33.320
<v Speaker 1>So you're saying you said they have to beat Clemson.

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they have to.

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:34.800
<v Speaker 2>They could.

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:37.040
<v Speaker 1>They could lose to Clemson, they could lose to someone

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:40.800
<v Speaker 1>else and provided they've got enough clearance in the ACC

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:44.840
<v Speaker 1>otherwise they win enough games. I mean, it's.

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Liberty Maryland Western Michigan, Holy Cross not a murderers bro

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:55.160
<v Speaker 2>in a non conference. No, and then you lose to

0:39:55.200 --> 0:40:00.839
<v Speaker 2>Clemson midway through September, and the case for I love

0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 2>that we're doing this. The case for an eleven one

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Syracuse making it. I have it at nine percent. I

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 2>have it at nine percent because I just I think

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:16.839
<v Speaker 2>teams are gonna be fine in the ACC. I don't

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 2>think there's a particular standout after Clemson on their schedule.

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've talked yourself into Pitt or

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 2>BC or Louisville and year one but don't win a

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:28.400
<v Speaker 2>bunch of games. But I think they're going like eight

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 2>and four.

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:33.239
<v Speaker 1>NC State on the road. ANC State is copy and

0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 1>pasted from year to year. It's just like a template.

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I think the last time we saw NCY State they

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 2>literally were pasted by Travion Williams Streets.

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll go what you said eight, I'll say I don't know. Ten.

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Last year was a nice it was a perfect storm,

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 2>took advantage being really pretty good.

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:55.960
<v Speaker 1>No, I can't go ten percent, five percent, five percent.

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll root for Syracuse.

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm not rooting against Syracuse, but sure five percent.

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Tennessee beats Alabama or Georgia. Come on, Rocky Top, Rocky Tie.

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:12.359
<v Speaker 2>I'll say twelve percent, twelve twelve, give me twenty eight.

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling saucy, not necessarily because of a love for Tennessee.

0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:21.319
<v Speaker 2>The Georgia situation is pretty good. I think they have

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 2>a bye week before Georgia. I mean Alabama's it's at Bama.

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:29.280
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna crush Tennessee, but it's early enough in the season.

0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Georgia I like a lot this year. We talked about

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.439
<v Speaker 2>the odds the odds show we did they have Notre Dame.

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:39.360
<v Speaker 2>I think they also have a bye week before Tennessee.

0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:44.919
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know. There's something about Tennessee this year

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 2>where I think the Auburn performance last year is a

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:52.720
<v Speaker 2>taste of what's to come. I like where they're heading.

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:55.880
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna take a little bit, but twenty eight percent

0:41:56.760 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 2>fair enough. Next item, Felipe Franks is actually so much better.

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I have to put a percentage on that.

0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's so much better. Like you are watching him

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 2>against Georgia and you say to yourself, so this is

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 2>the the odds that you were saying to yourself against Georgia. Damn,

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Felipe Franks. Where was this version looked good against Michigan?

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:30.399
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, full year, full off season, Dan Mullens system, right,

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:34.000
<v Speaker 2>big arm.

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Didn't we mention Felipe Franks when we did our draft?

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? This was Andy Staples big theory, like he could

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:45.240
<v Speaker 2>be the quarterback Daniel Jones that everyone talks themselves into

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.800
<v Speaker 2>because he's big and he's got the arm, and yeah,

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I think Felipe Franks has been caught up in a

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:55.960
<v Speaker 1>very weird era of Florida football. There's been a lot

0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 1>of turnover. I haven't really figured out the offense, and

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, people forget that he came in as a

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:07.200
<v Speaker 1>very highly regarded prospect. People forget and it's been somewhat

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 1>painful to watch him struggle just knowing that the system

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:13.440
<v Speaker 1>hasn't formed around him the way many had hoped. So

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a pretty good chance that we've all

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 1>sold Felipe Franks a little bit short. I do wonder though,

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 1>if we're a little too late in his development to

0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:27.319
<v Speaker 1>actually realize his full potential. So that being said, a

0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 1>full year under Dan Mullen, who we know can coach offense,

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it's I think it's more likely than not

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>that we look at Felipe Franks and say, ah, you

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 1>know it's it's there's a little bit more there than

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 1>we gave him credit for over the last couple of seasons.

0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:47.360
<v Speaker 2>What I'm hearing Felipe Franks has the opportunity to be

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 2>this season's Danny Etteling. Okay where and I think it's

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:54.279
<v Speaker 2>I forget who it might have been the and the

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:59.279
<v Speaker 2>valley shook the headstickers like, actually Danny Etteling is pretty good.

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 2>There was something like that, and actually Danny Etling was

0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:07.719
<v Speaker 2>all right. He was all right. Danny Etling his senior

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:12.759
<v Speaker 2>year at LSU sixteen touchdowns, two picks, nine yards per attempt,

0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:18.000
<v Speaker 2>completed sixty percent of his passes. That's pretty good. Do

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:20.960
<v Speaker 2>you think Felipe Franks can become Danny Ettling? It's my

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 2>new question.

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I think he can be better than Danny Eetling.

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:28.439
<v Speaker 2>That's a good that's a good line. Better than Danny

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:31.799
<v Speaker 2>yet Ling. Is that the threshold? Is that the bar

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:32.319
<v Speaker 2>right now?

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I get. I mean it's a hell of a bar.

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean he had huge performances against not great schools,

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:40.440
<v Speaker 2>but he was good against Auburn. Dannyet Ling he was

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:43.719
<v Speaker 2>pretty good against uh had A and m later on

0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:45.720
<v Speaker 2>in that season. I believe we're.

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Both going north of the Dannyetling Mendozel line.

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 2>It was just the Ettling line. I'm saying. I'm saying

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 2>he's right there. I'm saying he's on the border, saying

0:44:57.560 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 2>he's I'm saying he stopped, stopped, and searched in the

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:05.880
<v Speaker 2>in the Etling zone on the on the DMZ.

0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, So we got any other percentage questions

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 1>that we want to tackle here before we move on

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 1>to greener pastures.

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:17.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean we got a ton of these. Let's

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:19.239
<v Speaker 2>see if there's anything we got a lot of, Like

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Clemson Alabama. Neither Clemson nor Alabama win the national championship.

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, I mean I have it a little higher

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:31.239
<v Speaker 2>than that. I have thirty eight percent. But okay, I

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 2>don't know. Whenever I see clems in Alabama's name, I

0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:36.839
<v Speaker 2>just sort of get bored, Like I just like I'd

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 2>rather think about Iowa State winning the Big Twelve, which

0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Ted did ask us about.

0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's see, this is the problem that both Clemson

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:48.360
<v Speaker 1>and Alabama have, at least in regards to this podcast,

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:51.799
<v Speaker 1>because when we start getting these questions. It's starting to

0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:53.799
<v Speaker 1>inch into like which coach would you like to go

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:56.680
<v Speaker 1>on a road trip with territory? Right, And we stopped

0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 1>doing that a while ago. Now we can't avoid Clemson

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.240
<v Speaker 1>in Alabama questions because because they're the two top dogs.

0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:06.520
<v Speaker 1>But Georgia's probably got something to say, Oklahoma probably got

0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:08.799
<v Speaker 1>something to say. So you know, there's always a chance.

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I just oh Ohio State. I don't want to rule

0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:13.880
<v Speaker 1>out of Ohio State or Michigan, but it just feels so

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 1>likely to me that it's going to be Alabama or Clemson.

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 2>You'll be shocked to hear that the ACC network is

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:24.600
<v Speaker 2>doing a fluff series about Clemson football. Did you see

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 2>the trailer?

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:25.799
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see it.

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 2>No, it's rough, it is rough. Go Tigers and all

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:34.000
<v Speaker 2>but oh Iowa State. It should be mentioned because Ted asked,

0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:37.560
<v Speaker 2>and I'd rather talk about Brock Party. This is the

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 2>stretch they have starting in mid October. West Virginia on

0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 2>the road. Okay, Neil Brown, first year coach, who knows

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:46.239
<v Speaker 2>what West Virginia is gonna look like? At Texas Tech. Okay,

0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:51.480
<v Speaker 2>another first rounder, our first year coach, Oklahoma State, Okay,

0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:55.080
<v Speaker 2>they'll be pretty good. At Oklahoma and Texas in consecutive

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:58.360
<v Speaker 2>weeks with a bye. I believe between the Oklahoma schools,

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:01.240
<v Speaker 2>I have Iowa State in the big twelve or four percent,

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:03.879
<v Speaker 2>But damn do I want it?

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:07.240
<v Speaker 1>I do want it. Yeah, it's low, it's around four percent.

0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:11.479
<v Speaker 2>Uh, here's my final percent percentage. Because this is something

0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:14.040
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be a talking point all year long.

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Urban Meyer is the new head coach at USC by

0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:17.399
<v Speaker 2>New Year's Day.

0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh God, this is gonna be a fantasy things category,

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:22.239
<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well, the problem with it being fantasy things is

0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Urban Meyer could come out and say I am done, done, done,

0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 2>Not that it means it.

0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:32.759
<v Speaker 1>It does, Yeah, I mean it could mean.

0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:35.399
<v Speaker 2>It could mean less conversation about it throughout the year.

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Urban Meyer coaching rumors is definitely something that needs to

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:40.280
<v Speaker 1>get drafted.

0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:45.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's gonna happen. I think he's done.

0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's going anywhere. I think he's gonna

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:51.239
<v Speaker 1>get a cushy TV job with somebody m either this

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:53.560
<v Speaker 1>year or next. I don't know what his official status is,

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 1>but no.

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 2>He already has it. He already has He's doing the Fox.

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:57.959
<v Speaker 2>Remember the game day okay, Fox, he's.

0:47:57.880 --> 0:48:02.359
<v Speaker 1>Gonna get a cushy TV gig and he's gonna run

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:05.840
<v Speaker 1>with that for a while. He's gonna remain a hot commodity.

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:08.000
<v Speaker 1>But I think he's done. I think he meant it.

0:48:09.440 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 2>I think so too, and I think USC would probably

0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:16.279
<v Speaker 2>not be where he goes. He got a taste he got,

0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:18.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean the biggest you go into Florida and Ohio State.

0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:21.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he's I was gonna say slumming it,

0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:22.879
<v Speaker 2>but that was just to be mean. That wasn't because

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:25.560
<v Speaker 2>I actually meant it. I don't think he's going to USC.

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:28.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so, just because he's doing a TV

0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:30.799
<v Speaker 2>job and SC looks like it might come out. I

0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:33.600
<v Speaker 2>have an eleven percent. I'm never saying never because I

0:48:33.640 --> 0:48:39.840
<v Speaker 2>think he's a competitive psycho. Yeah, I would say five percent, okay,

0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:42.640
<v Speaker 2>And the final one has any to do with college

0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:44.160
<v Speaker 2>football Dan getting an Alexa.

0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, that's zero percent.

0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:50.759
<v Speaker 2>It's no longer zero, no six percent. And I'll tell

0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:55.799
<v Speaker 2>you why, whoa whoa breaking news? Well, I have Ciri

0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:58.879
<v Speaker 2>on my phone. Oh god, now my phone is freaking out.

0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:04.040
<v Speaker 2>When you have a baby in your hands and you

0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:06.399
<v Speaker 2>want to play music, you don't want to fumble around

0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:09.440
<v Speaker 2>looking for your phone. It's not going to happen. But

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I get it a little bit more solid. Baby is

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:14.400
<v Speaker 2>up this to six percent?

0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Whoa okay? Already changing?

0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:22.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Oh yeah yeah oh everything is flip turned upside down.

0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:25.319
<v Speaker 2>I lied, and I want to do one more college

0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:30.760
<v Speaker 2>football one sure Kellen Mond finishes the year just because

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:32.719
<v Speaker 2>we inexplicably and I love it. Have a lot of

0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:35.520
<v Speaker 2>texts ay and M people who listen Kellen Mond is

0:49:35.560 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 2>a top two quarterback in the SEC. Can Kellen Mond

0:49:41.400 --> 0:49:43.759
<v Speaker 2>break top to Ettling threshold?

0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:49.400
<v Speaker 1>He's not a top two quarterback. He's an exciting quarterback,

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:51.360
<v Speaker 1>but he's not better than Jake FROMM and he's not

0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:52.920
<v Speaker 1>better than to a tongue of ioloa.

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think this question might be banking on injury

0:49:56.160 --> 0:50:00.719
<v Speaker 2>or something totally strange happening. Here's we're due for a

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:01.200
<v Speaker 2>new stave.

0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:04.240
<v Speaker 1>Yep, right we are. If there's If there's an injury

0:50:04.280 --> 0:50:09.000
<v Speaker 1>at the top, Kellen Mond is among the next tier

0:50:09.040 --> 0:50:12.880
<v Speaker 1>that could jump up and jump in and take one

0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:16.319
<v Speaker 1>of those spots. But as it stands now, no, he's not.

0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, who is who is on if from and Tangoailoa

0:50:22.160 --> 0:50:26.360
<v Speaker 2>are alone in the first tier. Who is with Mond?

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:30.320
<v Speaker 2>If Mond is on the second tier, which I believe

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:30.840
<v Speaker 2>he is.

0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just so tough to say. In the

0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:34.680
<v Speaker 1>SEC this year.

0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Right, I would say Jared Quarantano is potentially there, Jake

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Bentley potentially there.

0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:47.439
<v Speaker 1>Potentially we don't need Joe Burrow. Yeah, Joe Burrow made.

0:50:47.480 --> 0:50:50.839
<v Speaker 1>We don't know much about the Auburn situation. We know

0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:54.000
<v Speaker 1>bo Nix is going to be the guy, but I

0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:56.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know. It might be one of those like fantasy

0:50:56.520 --> 0:51:02.200
<v Speaker 1>situations where Kellen Mond is his own second tier. Yeah,

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:05.719
<v Speaker 1>probably Jake Bentley in there. I would say he's rather

0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow or Kellen Mond. Kellen Mond, their stats are

0:51:09.719 --> 0:51:12.759
<v Speaker 1>actually pretty much identical against SEC teams last year. I

0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:14.040
<v Speaker 1>think I'd rather have Kellen Mond.

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:15.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I think though the thing with Burrow is that the

0:51:18.520 --> 0:51:21.160
<v Speaker 1>stats don't reflect how good he was. He was good

0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:24.240
<v Speaker 1>in spots when he needed to be, Yeah, in ways

0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:25.960
<v Speaker 1>that the stats can't bear out.

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:29.880
<v Speaker 2>I think that's I don't know. I'd rather my quarterback

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:32.239
<v Speaker 2>be more consistent than just like show up a little

0:51:32.280 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, there's Joe Burrow. I'd rather have that

0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Felipe Franks or Kellen Mond kellen Mond okay, Guarantana or

0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Kellen Mond, kellen Mond Okay, they're all Jake Bentley Kellen.

0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Mond probably still kellen Mond okay.

0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 2>So you I, I can only gather that you have

0:51:56.640 --> 0:51:58.080
<v Speaker 2>him as number three.

0:51:57.920 --> 0:52:00.319
<v Speaker 1>Then I think he's probably my number three. Yeah, that's

0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:02.439
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. If there is an injury at the top,

0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 1>he certainly can challenge to get into that tier.

0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:10.319
<v Speaker 1>Well, if it's injured top, he's there according to you. Yeah,

0:52:11.560 --> 0:52:14.680
<v Speaker 1>use he gets hurt too, You never know, that's true.

0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 1>So we've now entered the stage of this podcast where

0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:23.560
<v Speaker 1>if you were here with an I know we should you.

0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:26.600
<v Speaker 1>If you came here for the college football content, we're

0:52:26.600 --> 0:52:28.640
<v Speaker 1>going to take a bit of a left turn now

0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:31.080
<v Speaker 1>and answer some non college football questions. So we thank

0:52:31.120 --> 0:52:33.439
<v Speaker 1>you for your download. You're more the welcome to stick

0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:35.279
<v Speaker 1>around and listen to the remainder of the show. But

0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:38.000
<v Speaker 1>we have gotten complaints from time to time that oh,

0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:40.120
<v Speaker 1>you're veering too far from college football, So we just

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:42.719
<v Speaker 1>we wanted to let you know we will not take

0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 1>it personally if you decide not to listen to what

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:48.680
<v Speaker 1>comes next here but I personally am very excited to

0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:51.000
<v Speaker 1>get some of these opinions off my chest. I feel

0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:52.720
<v Speaker 1>like I've got a lot to offer in this phase

0:52:52.760 --> 0:52:53.600
<v Speaker 1>of the conversation.

0:52:54.280 --> 0:52:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Ty, there's a book that is popular to read two

0:52:58.560 --> 0:53:03.480
<v Speaker 2>children as they train. Do you know what book I'm referencing.

0:53:04.760 --> 0:53:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I do.

0:53:05.560 --> 0:53:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Actually, there's a book called Everybody Poops? Right, Everyone Poops?

0:53:09.600 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:15.719
<v Speaker 2>It binds us all no pun intended. And it's cool

0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:17.720
<v Speaker 2>if you came here to listen to college football stuff.

0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:20.640
<v Speaker 2>But you know, if you're a fan of Holy Cross,

0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:23.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much you care about Michigan football.

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:28.080
<v Speaker 2>If you're a fan of I don't know, Washington State,

0:53:28.120 --> 0:53:29.880
<v Speaker 2>how much you can care about us talking about Felipe

0:53:29.880 --> 0:53:33.879
<v Speaker 2>Franks and the atlink threshold, I get it. But poop talk,

0:53:34.600 --> 0:53:38.680
<v Speaker 2>everybody's doing that. Sure, we ask people for questions about

0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:40.400
<v Speaker 2>office bathroom etiquette.

0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:42.879
<v Speaker 1>I have a question that I've been thinking a lot about,

0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:45.440
<v Speaker 1>and it comes to us from Genlemine by the name

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:48.640
<v Speaker 1>of Trevor Okay. He says a scenario I have at work,

0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:51.080
<v Speaker 1>as I'm sure many others do. I work at a college.

0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:56.080
<v Speaker 1>My office space is one of many in three interconnected buildings.

0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:59.680
<v Speaker 1>There's a common bathroom basically in my office with two stalls.

0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 1>There is a single bathroom about one minute from my

0:54:03.160 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 1>office and a quote unquote different building. Don't know what

0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:09.719
<v Speaker 1>that means, but okay, should I use the no privacy

0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:13.200
<v Speaker 1>but convenient bathroom or make the extra effort for the

0:54:13.239 --> 0:54:15.399
<v Speaker 1>single bathroom when I know I'll be a while?

0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:20.520
<v Speaker 2>Right, So this seems like an easy call to me.

0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:24.480
<v Speaker 1>You know where I stand on this. We get questions

0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:27.960
<v Speaker 1>all the time about I'm an upstart podcaster. Where do

0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I start first? What's the first thing I should do?

0:54:31.960 --> 0:54:32.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:54:32.800 --> 0:54:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I respond to a man to a woman by saying,

0:54:36.480 --> 0:54:38.600
<v Speaker 1>the first thing that you should do is find your

0:54:38.640 --> 0:54:39.920
<v Speaker 1>own super secret bathroom.

0:54:40.480 --> 0:54:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Huh.

0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that's where you start, not just in podcasting,

0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:47.760
<v Speaker 1>but really across all industries life. Yeah, Trevor. The answer

0:54:47.840 --> 0:54:51.120
<v Speaker 1>here is that you find you cherish and you tell

0:54:51.160 --> 0:54:55.239
<v Speaker 1>no one about that secret bathroom. You treasure that privacy

0:54:55.360 --> 0:54:58.879
<v Speaker 1>whatever you can get it if it's convenient to do so. Now,

0:54:58.960 --> 0:55:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, sometimes you're in between meetings, you can't quite

0:55:01.080 --> 0:55:04.960
<v Speaker 1>accommodate that privacy, but you can't make it a minute, right.

0:55:05.680 --> 0:55:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I think whenever you can, you walk that extra minute,

0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you get that privacy, and you feel better about yourself

0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:14.880
<v Speaker 1>for doing it.

0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:18.520
<v Speaker 2>Quite honestly, do you think that's over spoiling his system?

0:55:18.760 --> 0:55:21.480
<v Speaker 2>And then he will have issues when he does have

0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:23.600
<v Speaker 2>to go places where there isn't privacy.

0:55:23.600 --> 0:55:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I have encountered a similar situation, and I will say

0:55:26.080 --> 0:55:28.880
<v Speaker 1>that there is a bit of a mental recalibration that

0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:29.840
<v Speaker 1>needs to take place.

0:55:30.560 --> 0:55:33.040
<v Speaker 2>But if you do it, if you if you space it.

0:55:32.960 --> 0:55:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Out enough, if you don't steer too too hard into

0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the bathroom privacy angle, you can train.

0:55:39.960 --> 0:55:40.719
<v Speaker 2>You can train.

0:55:40.600 --> 0:55:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Yourself mentally to accommodate pretty much any situation.

0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:47.600
<v Speaker 2>I used to work in an office that was basically

0:55:47.640 --> 0:55:50.200
<v Speaker 2>a loft, a wide open loft, and the bathroom was

0:55:50.320 --> 0:55:53.000
<v Speaker 2>right smack in the middle, like jutting out from one

0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:55.719
<v Speaker 2>of the walls. So there was no hiding. You know,

0:55:55.760 --> 0:55:57.960
<v Speaker 2>you're not walking down hallways to get to the bathroom.

0:55:58.000 --> 0:56:00.399
<v Speaker 2>There was no hiding who was in the bathroom, who

0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:01.800
<v Speaker 2>was on their way, who was waiting to go to

0:56:01.840 --> 0:56:04.120
<v Speaker 2>the bathroom. It was just out in the open for everybody.

0:56:04.680 --> 0:56:09.160
<v Speaker 2>And when that happens, you can't help but get reputations

0:56:09.880 --> 0:56:13.319
<v Speaker 2>about how you leave the bathroom. And so if you

0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:16.640
<v Speaker 2>are in a shared, confined space next to the bathroom.

0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:19.400
<v Speaker 2>You were going to have to be okay with earning

0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:24.600
<v Speaker 2>a reputation good, bad, whatever, probably bad. Nobody really earns

0:56:24.640 --> 0:56:25.640
<v Speaker 2>good bathroom refuge.

0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:26.520
<v Speaker 1>No, not really.

0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:28.719
<v Speaker 2>And I could tell you right now, I could list

0:56:28.760 --> 0:56:30.520
<v Speaker 2>off five or six people I used to work with

0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:35.239
<v Speaker 2>that dropped absolute bombs. Yeah, like, and I'm sure you

0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:35.759
<v Speaker 2>could as well.

0:56:35.880 --> 0:56:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:39.759
<v Speaker 2>There are just certain people where you are, like, I

0:56:39.800 --> 0:56:42.640
<v Speaker 2>know what's about to go down, and it's it's a

0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:48.960
<v Speaker 2>carpet bombing. So I would skew that direction. But I

0:56:49.000 --> 0:56:51.080
<v Speaker 2>get it. I get it that you have to sometimes

0:56:51.400 --> 0:56:54.279
<v Speaker 2>go close sometimes you you know, the breakfast burrito isn't

0:56:54.280 --> 0:56:57.920
<v Speaker 2>sitting right and there's no time. Yeah, but I would

0:56:57.960 --> 0:57:00.640
<v Speaker 2>work in the close when every sing off, and just

0:57:00.680 --> 0:57:02.880
<v Speaker 2>to get your system used to performing under it.

0:57:03.040 --> 0:57:06.080
<v Speaker 1>You have to train mentally in this game. It's very important, correct,

0:57:06.480 --> 0:57:08.879
<v Speaker 1>All right, what have we got next? You got anything else?

0:57:10.000 --> 0:57:12.480
<v Speaker 1>And so many any other bathroom medicate questions?

0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Sure, absolutely, Quack twelve, Yeah, maybe it's Quack twelve podcasts.

0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:20.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Should I attempt to go number two

0:57:20.280 --> 0:57:22.880
<v Speaker 2>quietly in a public restroom or just have at it

0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:26.720
<v Speaker 2>and finish the job. Is there any situation in which

0:57:26.720 --> 0:57:33.280
<v Speaker 2>you are not fully devoting yourself to health, Just at

0:57:33.320 --> 0:57:38.160
<v Speaker 2>it and finish, Just have at it, you know, it's

0:57:39.520 --> 0:57:44.480
<v Speaker 2>just be eric Gania. I've always felt it's easier. Yeah,

0:57:44.520 --> 0:57:48.080
<v Speaker 2>in a public, public place like an airport, uh huh,

0:57:48.240 --> 0:57:48.600
<v Speaker 2>A lot.

0:57:48.560 --> 0:57:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Less pressure than if you're at a person where you could.

0:57:51.600 --> 0:57:54.480
<v Speaker 2>We're all in it together to just obliterate this room.

0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that's right.

0:57:56.280 --> 0:57:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:57:56.560 --> 0:57:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Whereas if you're at your office or a place where

0:57:58.680 --> 0:58:01.520
<v Speaker 1>you might actually run into someone, I always worry there's

0:58:01.520 --> 0:58:04.800
<v Speaker 1>a chance they're going to see my shoes, hm, you know,

0:58:04.880 --> 0:58:06.680
<v Speaker 1>like if someone's nosy, they're going to put two and

0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:09.760
<v Speaker 1>two together, they're going to figure it out. Everybody poops though,

0:58:10.000 --> 0:58:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I know, but these are things that I worry about. Dan,

0:58:12.640 --> 0:58:16.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm a thoughtful individual. So I think in most cases,

0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:19.800
<v Speaker 1>in a truly public space like an airport, you just

0:58:19.960 --> 0:58:23.680
<v Speaker 1>you just have at it. But if you are in

0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:27.320
<v Speaker 1>a place where you might run into somebody that you know,

0:58:27.480 --> 0:58:31.040
<v Speaker 1>a co worker, I think you try to make accommodations

0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:32.120
<v Speaker 1>to sneak it in.

0:58:33.560 --> 0:58:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, because this is a percentile episode. If zero is

0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:47.640
<v Speaker 2>first date, small apartment, thin walls, terrible, really like her

0:58:48.120 --> 0:58:50.800
<v Speaker 2>and want to like make a good impression and not

0:58:51.080 --> 0:58:54.080
<v Speaker 2>like ruin any sort of vibe. That's a zero. Yeah,

0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:59.480
<v Speaker 2>one hundred is home alone, sixty eight degrees inside your house,

0:59:00.160 --> 0:59:04.000
<v Speaker 2>great night's sleep, been drinking, you've been You're super hydrated.

0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Everything is just adding up to win dated. Yeah, sure,

0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:11.280
<v Speaker 2>you just absolutely being yourself. So between zero and one hundred,

0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:15.840
<v Speaker 2>one hundred being super comfortable, zero being completely blocked and

0:59:15.920 --> 0:59:19.040
<v Speaker 2>uncomfortable and not wanting to do with anything. What is

0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:20.280
<v Speaker 2>your work number?

0:59:20.480 --> 0:59:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Thirty five?

0:59:21.800 --> 0:59:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Thirty five? Yeah, I say anything under fifty means you're

0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:30.240
<v Speaker 2>cutting things short. I'm not cutting anything short, but I'm

0:59:31.120 --> 0:59:36.760
<v Speaker 2>listen pacing yourself. So thirty five at the office, you're

0:59:36.920 --> 0:59:38.560
<v Speaker 2>at a holiday at your in laws.

0:59:38.720 --> 0:59:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not worried about that.

0:59:40.120 --> 0:59:45.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So your nineties, yeah, uh, in a house of worship,

0:59:49.320 --> 0:59:50.000
<v Speaker 2>God's watching.

0:59:50.120 --> 0:59:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Let's move on.

0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:53.360
<v Speaker 2>You can't give me a number house of worship.

0:59:53.960 --> 0:59:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't honestly say I've ever encountered the situation in

0:59:56.680 --> 0:59:57.480
<v Speaker 1>a house of worship.

0:59:58.080 --> 1:00:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, here's the better question. You're at Yankee Stadium, unavoidable.

1:00:05.400 --> 1:00:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Do you want to get in and out as quickly

1:00:07.520 --> 1:00:09.440
<v Speaker 2>as possible and just do what it takes to get

1:00:09.440 --> 1:00:12.760
<v Speaker 2>in and out. Yeah, or are you fully dedicating yourself

1:00:12.760 --> 1:00:15.360
<v Speaker 2>to the cause, knowing you're all in it together. It's

1:00:15.360 --> 1:00:17.120
<v Speaker 2>a disgusting place. It's like an airport bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm doing what I can to the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the fourth Yeah, just do what I gotta do,

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<v Speaker 1>get in and out.

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<v Speaker 2>To feel comfortable. So you're at like a twenty there, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I would. I would pretty much go one hundred no

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<v Speaker 2>matter where I am. I'm incredibly selfish that way.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go to this question here from Eric. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>why do people try to speak to me in the

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<v Speaker 1>office bathroom? Yeah, it's a private place. Have you encountered

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<v Speaker 1>the situation?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure? For sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you encountered the situation? So everyone's accounted. The situation

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<v Speaker 1>where there's just an exchanging of pleasantries just to be cordial.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually at the sink, usually at this or or one

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<v Speaker 2>person in as another person's leaving.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have encountered two situations in the corporate setting

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<v Speaker 1>that I'd like to discuss here. Okay, the first is

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<v Speaker 1>the full fledged conversation at the urnal irresponsible. The second

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<v Speaker 1>situation that I have encountered surreptitiously, mind you, is the vendor,

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<v Speaker 1>or presumably someone who is not familiar with the bathroom setup.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, giving himself a pep talk while at the journal,

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<v Speaker 1>not knowing that I'm stationed in the in the stall

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<v Speaker 1>down the road.

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<v Speaker 2>What did the pep talks sound like?

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta be honest a lot stage fright now. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking stage fright. I'm talking we've got a

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<v Speaker 1>big meeting coming up. Let's remain call, going through the presentation. Gotcha, Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>At the urnal, I feel like that's that. That's just

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<v Speaker 1>like not knowing your surroundings. Maybe a little too amped

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<v Speaker 1>up for whatever meeting you've got coming up, but still

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<v Speaker 1>very weird to me, if I'm being honest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the one where you've got.

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<v Speaker 1>The conversation standing there at the urinal, I agree, is irresponsible.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>These are individuals who are raised by wolves, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't get that otherwise, though, I feel like Eric, most

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<v Speaker 1>people are in a similar situation when they're in the

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<v Speaker 1>bathroom and you're not sure how much you should commit

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<v Speaker 1>to the conversation, what you're supposed to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm feeling the conversation as quickly as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, so I guess my question back to you and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Could respond to my head I'm hearing we can three,

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<v Speaker 2>he is, go and kill kill kill, right, we can.

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<v Speaker 1>We can make this a two way conversation. Eric, happy

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss, Happy to discuss further. But I would just

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<v Speaker 1>I need to know more about the depths of this

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<v Speaker 1>conversation that you're referring to here in your question.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you? And every time there's occasionally times on Twitter

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<v Speaker 2>where people will say, like, hey, could you describe retweet

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<v Speaker 2>this with the time you I met a super famous

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<v Speaker 2>person and had like a strange encounter or something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and inevitably somebody's like, oh I saw Roger Clemons in

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<v Speaker 2>a bathroom, or like blah blah blah. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>who this person or these people these people are for you,

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<v Speaker 2>but who you would fully geek out seeing randomly in

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<v Speaker 2>public celebrity wise, and if you were to pull up

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<v Speaker 2>next to them at a urinal if you are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to just get out a single line, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>who that person is.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a couple guesses. You if you park next

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<v Speaker 2>to Neil de grass tyson, are you trying to say,

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<v Speaker 2>big fan? I see.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm overruled by my inner moral compass when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to bathroom Meticut. I think I probably wait

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<v Speaker 1>until we get to the sink, or maybe I pulled

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<v Speaker 1>the move, or you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, you, I don't know. I don't know if that

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<v Speaker 2>you can count on that you have this window. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the only thing you know you have is you

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<v Speaker 2>have this window.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I get out first, I know where he's

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<v Speaker 1>going next. I know eventually he must I know I

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<v Speaker 1>leave the room, So that would be the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know that you're pulling out first, though.

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<v Speaker 1>Pulling out first, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know that you are exiting the urinal and

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<v Speaker 2>the partition area before this person who was already there.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know, if I mean, maybe you just make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you do. I think if I were that

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<v Speaker 1>intent on starting a conversation, that would be the move.

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<v Speaker 1>What you couldn't do, though, and this is actually the

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<v Speaker 1>better question. If you encountered that idol, would you offer

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<v Speaker 1>your hand to try and shake it, knowing you were

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<v Speaker 1>both in the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't do it. You can't do that. You absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>cannot offer a handshake in the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had someone offer me a handshake in the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>I was very uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were washing your hands and completing your voyage,

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<v Speaker 2>Neil degrass Tyson walks in and is clearly heading to

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<v Speaker 2>the stall. Are you going to try to say something

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<v Speaker 2>to him? I'm like, god speed, Neil.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably, I probably am not quick enough on my

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<v Speaker 1>feet to come up with something suitable.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're just walking out of the bathroom going damn

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<v Speaker 2>it time.

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<v Speaker 1>I might give him the head nod.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, how are you? You know? Good luck in there, Neil.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. A good question. Actually, Derek asks

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<v Speaker 1>a very similar question to Eric.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you talk? No, you try to keep talk to

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<v Speaker 1>an absolute bare minimum. I agree, what else we got here?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you talk to? Okay, here's if you are walking

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<v Speaker 2>into the bathroom with somebody. Hey, I'm going to head

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<v Speaker 2>to the bathroom. Oh you know what, I'll join you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm got to wash my hands. If they're heading into

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<v Speaker 2>the stall, do you can do you continue your conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you enter the restroom. Once you cross that boundary,

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<v Speaker 1>that is the line of demarcation, okay. Once you are

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of that, it is like going

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<v Speaker 1>into the cornfield and field of dreams. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>whole different world with different rules. So no, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you. I think you try to you try to

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<v Speaker 1>find a clean break and natural stopping point, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're not doing business while someone's on the pot.

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<v Speaker 2>You just be honest, be honest. Will you take out

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<v Speaker 2>your phone at a urinal?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, just making sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>What is your go to phone situation?

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, it's usually it's usually Twitter. Yeah, it's usually Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't get to read it much during the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, yeah, I'm not proud to say that, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's best suited for the bathroom. To be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>it's perfect for the bathroom. Yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these are all been Let's see what do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I like this? Yeah, this will be our last one.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a head out, I got a dinner tie.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do when someone enters the bathroom and

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<v Speaker 2>you're in a compromised position.

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<v Speaker 1>Compromised position, you're stealing the toilet?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Ah?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So if I'm to understand this from our dear

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<v Speaker 2>dear friend Nick Davian deep fix. What do you do

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<v Speaker 2>when someone enters a bathroom and you're in a compromised position?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you give a courtesy flesh or stay as still

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<v Speaker 2>as quiet as possible until they leave? So you are

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<v Speaker 2>in the stall, you are taking care of business, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you are going to the restroom, you're evacuating your bowels.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's fine to just keep doing what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's anything to be ashamed of.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been in both situations, Dan, Yeah, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Would like to get the I'm not saying you're walking

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<v Speaker 2>into like a home bathroom, sure, like a single use. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying you're walking into just a regular old bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to get like the Fangrafts breakdown of

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<v Speaker 1>how I approach this situation, just normal everyday life. But

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in both situations where the courtesy flush could

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<v Speaker 1>be applied.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually applied when I've got.

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<v Speaker 1>A meeting to get to, but otherwise I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I've trended towards the standoff where.

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<v Speaker 2>You're pausing, you're hitting pause.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to hit pause.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Ti, it's a stand on your body a disservice.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a standoff, and I have prided myself on winning

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<v Speaker 1>most of those standoffs, but every now and again you

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<v Speaker 1>go up against someone pretty tough.

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<v Speaker 2>I be honest, I'm so disappointed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's uncomfortable when you try to win the standoff and

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<v Speaker 1>you decide that you can't, because then there's a situation

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<v Speaker 1>with the legs fallen asleep, and it's just not good.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever been in a clear, single use bathroom

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<v Speaker 2>and forgotten to lock behind you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>And been on the toilet?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you do the only thing that is allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>do be done? It is use the third person for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever reason. I think this is in some comedians act.

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<v Speaker 2>But you don't say, like him, I'm using it. You

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<v Speaker 2>say someone's in.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, Yeah, someone, I've done that.

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<v Speaker 2>I canna tell you someone.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're not gonna yell like Matt's it here?

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<v Speaker 1>You have to go third person?

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<v Speaker 2>What about acupato? No, that's popular. We've really would love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love if you were in the bathroom you

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<v Speaker 2>went ti zu, isn't it time?

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<v Speaker 1>Time? Feels like a George because stands a move.

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