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Speaker 1: Hey, what is up everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Giftiest Charge podcast, presented by the Charterers

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Speaker 2: Podcast Network. My name is Stephen and I am your

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Speaker 2: host as always and joining me this afterduce my guy Tyler. Tyler,

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Speaker 2: what's up man? How you doing today?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing very well. I wave helow with my right hand,

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Speaker 3: and if the NFL was wondering, I can also.

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Speaker 1: Do it with my left hand. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Usually we get those what if he were left handed?

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Speaker 2: Tweets spread out. The NFL decided to do it all

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Speaker 2: in one day, which was really funny. We got to

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Speaker 2: see what Justin Herbert looked like if he were left handed.

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Speaker 1: You know, thankfully he is right handed.

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Speaker 2: You know, it makes it look more esthetically pleasing in

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Speaker 2: my opinion, but you know, it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: So I got a fun show plan for you guys. Today.

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Speaker 2: We are going to be talking about the players with

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Speaker 2: the most potential to be training camp and preseason in

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Speaker 2: stars or breakouts. So this is not necessary like season breakout,

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Speaker 2: like we'll do that at some point, but this is

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Speaker 2: specifically talking about which players have the best chance of

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Speaker 2: lighting it up during the rest of the season schedule

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Speaker 2: or off season schedule. I should say in terms of

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Speaker 2: training camp for preseason, and then we got some great

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Speaker 2: questions via Twitter that will go over as many as

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Speaker 2: we possibly can today, so it should be a fun

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Speaker 2: off season show. Again, apologize for the poor audio quality

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Speaker 2: if it gets to that point for our audio audience.

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Speaker 1: You know, this will be my.

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Speaker 2: Last episode recording from my vacation, so next week I'll

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Speaker 2: be back in my usual studio space. So before we

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Speaker 2: get started, as always, appreciate any subscribes comments on this

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Speaker 2: channel as well as our own on the Guiltiest Charge podcast.

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Speaker 2: And Tyler and I, your first and foremost, are fans

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Speaker 2: just like you guys. We are independent content creators just

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Speaker 2: happen to be creating this content via the Chargers feed.

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Speaker 2: So the expinions, the opinions expressed on this show are

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Speaker 2: our own and are not shared by the Chargers organization.

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Speaker 2: All right, Tyler, let's dive in here. We've decided to

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Speaker 2: do one offensive training camp preseason star and one defensive.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the offense. Who's your choice here? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So, to me, a breakout training camp star is a

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Speaker 3: player who you might not have the highest expectations due

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Speaker 3: to draft stock or lack thereof maybe they're not a

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Speaker 3: roster priority, but they have the capacity to exceed certain

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Speaker 3: expectations and pickup buzz and then the fans go, hey,

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Speaker 3: like that guy should make the roster, And maybe they don't,

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Speaker 3: or maybe they don't contribute at all, but I think

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Speaker 3: than maybe that was expected of them. So to me,

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Speaker 3: it's a newer guy that I just watched today. That's

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Speaker 3: Mike Ezekey, the rookie undrafted free agent Titan out of UCLA.

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Speaker 3: I've tried to go through all the eighteen undrafted free agents.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot. It's taking a long time to get

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Speaker 3: I started to watch him today versus usc and versus Utah.

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Speaker 3: Another player who had a really great game against Utah.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure, I'm sure you watched that one, Steven. But

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Speaker 3: he was actually a receiver for Ucla for two years

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Speaker 3: Apparently he's picked up thirty pounds and now he's six five,

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Speaker 3: two fifty. But he was asked to do a lot

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Speaker 3: to tight end. Granted, receiver to tight end isn't the

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Speaker 3: craziest conversion, but he was asked to do a lot

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Speaker 3: for UCLA, and I saw targets on dig routes, on crossers,

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Speaker 3: tight end. So he's the point man out wide, he

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Speaker 3: And I just think that the charters are looking for

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Speaker 3: it's always been like a PAC twelve tight end. A

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Speaker 3: I think fans are going to wonder, you know, who's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really interesting call here.

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Speaker 2: You know, I thought about choosing one of the other

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Speaker 1: You know, we saw him make some kind of impact.

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Speaker 2: So I figured tight end might be a group where

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Speaker 2: you know. And I think Zeke would be a good

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Speaker 2: That that checks the box of like opportunity as well,

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Speaker 2: because that was that was kind of the hard thing

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Speaker 1: So like last year, you.

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Speaker 2: And I liked, I think we both liked the running

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Speaker 2: I forget his name right now, but he we barely

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Speaker 2: And so there's a bit of that difficulty of finding like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Opportunities to really shine?

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Speaker 2: And I think we could have an offensive lineman in

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Speaker 3: Who would the offensive lineman be that you would go

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Speaker 2: Offensive lineman that I would go with, I'm not too sure, man.

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Speaker 2: Johari Branch is really interesting to me, the center prospect

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Speaker 1: So he's somebody that I think has.

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Speaker 2: A quality uh some quality tape working with him, and

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Speaker 2: he probably would be my my one I know, potentially

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Speaker 2: third string center is not necessarily a preseason breakout star

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Speaker 3: Hey, you know, I picked tight end five or four

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Speaker 3: whatever he is. So here we are, all right, who's

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Speaker 1: My my actual offensive guy?

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Speaker 2: You know, Poke Williams is kind of the low hanging

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Speaker 2: you know, I go back to I know fans don't

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Speaker 2: the fence. Revisiting potentially Tyron Johnson stories, right, but that

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Speaker 2: high Tower, and high Tower is a Boise State guy.

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Speaker 2: We know how Kellen Moore was a Boise State guy

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Speaker 2: high Tower just fits that mold, right. You know, there's

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Speaker 2: there's an opportunity in this offense without Jalen Guiden, and

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Speaker 2: but John high Tower is essentially a one for one

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Speaker 2: maybe John high Tower might be the Jalen guitt In replacement,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think that. First of all, it is

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Speaker 3: be go with another player like John Hightower who is faster,

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Speaker 3: who is someone who can push and you can push

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Speaker 3: he's typically more the bigger body down the field, sort

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Speaker 3: of got high Tower not small himself. Either way, it's

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Speaker 3: played in the NFL before. He does have hundreds of snaps.

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Speaker 3: I think he has one hundred something receiving yards in

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Speaker 3: more than some of these undrafted free agency guys who

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Speaker 3: have carved like no role for themselves thus far. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think that especially if Jalen Guiden is, you know,

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Speaker 3: he's still injured, he's coming off his injury. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: think high Tower could be someone that would really stand

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Speaker 3: probably going to be Mike Williams or Quintin Johnson. But

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Speaker 2: But physical profile I think is very intriguing for Andrew Farmer.

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Speaker 3: I am going with Raheem Lane, the second year safety

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Speaker 3: And it's one of those things in training camp where

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he So he checks both boxes for

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Speaker 2: If nothing else, I mean, he's going to cover out

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Speaker 3: swing tackle right now. Depending he's at least their pure

434
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Speaker 3: swing tackle right now. We'll see what they do with Solar,

435
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Speaker 3: with mcfatten, et cetera. But I think that the Chargers,

436
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Speaker 3: I think they can develop offensive linemen pretty well. I

437
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Speaker 3: think they've shown that they can get the most out

438
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Speaker 3: of a lot of these guys. But then you also

439
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Speaker 3: have the Duke many Weather factor in there. You do

440
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Speaker 3: the fact that Kellen Moore's offense is hopefully better suited

441
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Speaker 3: to offensive line progression and development than someone like maybe

442
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Speaker 3: Joe Lombardi, where they just had the most dropbacks in

443
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Speaker 3: the league every single game against Nick Bosa. Like, that's

444
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Speaker 3: not great for Foster Serral, but if you can take

445
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Speaker 3: some of that pressure off, I think that would be

446
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Speaker 3: really helpful for him, so potentially him as well.

447
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good one.

448
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Speaker 2: The other name that I thought about mentioning along the

449
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Speaker 2: defensive line is Chris Hinton. Again, we saw him make

450
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Speaker 2: an impact during the season down the stretch when the

451
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,120
Speaker 2: Chargers had a lot of defensive tackle injuries. But there's

452
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Speaker 2: a chance that we don't see th Twito Aguanya and

453
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Speaker 2: or Austin Johnson throughout training camp, right Like, there's going

454
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Speaker 2: to be an opportunity for Chris Hinton, for Gerrod Clark,

455
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Speaker 2: for the rest of these other defensive linemen behind Sebastian

456
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Speaker 2: Jose the Day and Morgan Fox to get some meaningful snaps.

457
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 2: We've seen, you know, Brandon Fojoco, Forest, Merrill, Cortez Broughton

458
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Speaker 2: in the past couple of years be able to carve

459
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Speaker 2: out some buzz in that regard. And so Chris Hinton

460
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 2: is my name to watch there. I know there's a

461
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Speaker 2: lot of love for Girod Clark.

462
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Speaker 1: Out there, but Chris Hinton is kind of there. Uh.

463
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Speaker 2: He fits their mold of somebody who can do a

464
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Speaker 2: bit of everything, as somebody who can defend a run

465
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Speaker 2: and run rush the passer. I mean, there were a

466
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Speaker 2: couple of snaps against the Colts where he put Clinton

467
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Speaker 2: Johnson or excuse me, Quinton Johnston, Clinton Nelson in a

468
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Speaker 2: blender a little bit against the Colts in on Monday

469
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Speaker 2: Night football. So Chris Hinton is definitely somebody that I

470
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Speaker 2: am h circling, you know, for the rest of the

471
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Speaker 2: summer months here in the next couple of weeks.

472
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exciting. Another coach at Jade Rodgers pairing there

473
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Speaker 3: to help coach him ups. That's I mean again, if

474
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Speaker 3: you're on the defensive line, you've got great coaches around you.

475
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Tyler, let's get to some of these

476
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Speaker 2: questions here. Again, thank you to everybody who send us

477
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Speaker 2: some questions on Twitter. We'll do that from time to time,

478
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: you know, over the next few weeks. Obviously gonna be

479
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 2: a little bit tougher to do this during the season

480
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 2: when we have legitimate things to talk about every single week,

481
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Speaker 2: but wanted to get some of your guys' pressing questions here.

482
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Speaker 2: We'll try and get to as many as we possibly can.

483
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 2: We'll probably take about twenty minutes here to get to

484
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Speaker 2: some of these. So first one here we have is

485
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Speaker 2: from Eugene. He says, if J. C. Jackson is healthy

486
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Speaker 2: for training camp and ready for week one, what do

487
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Speaker 2: you think the chances are that jah Jessea Taylor actually

488
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Speaker 2: beats out Sante SEMy Junior for the starting slot role.

489
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the interesting one. I tweeted this out

490
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Speaker 3: and discussed this and people were like, what how is

491
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Speaker 3: that possible. Okay, is a Santae Samuel junior, the better

492
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Speaker 3: corner I believe so, is a Sante Samuelo junior, the

493
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Speaker 3: better defensive back. I believe so is a Sante Samlo junior. Definitely,

494
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Speaker 3: in the eyes of the Los Angeles Chargers in Brandon Staley,

495
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Speaker 3: the better slot corner than John Taylor. I actually don't

496
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Speaker 3: know if that's as close. It's definitely not as close

497
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Speaker 3: to it. Yes, I'm not entirely sure that they feel

498
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Speaker 3: that way. A Santa Semuel junior has been even inter

499
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Speaker 3: just in brief moments. Benched two years in a row

500
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one as a rookie, which is fine.

501
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 3: It happens. I think everybody got benched. And last year, Okay,

502
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 3: a lot of guys got benched too, in the defensive backfield,

503
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 3: but he wasn't necessarily bench as much as we don't

504
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Speaker 3: really want you to be out here playing the run,

505
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 3: and so we're gonna put in Jaw Taylor instead. And

506
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 3: we've talked about this a lot, but like, the slot

507
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Speaker 3: has to play the run quite a bit. If you're

508
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Speaker 3: a slot corner, you're going to playing the run quite

509
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Speaker 3: a bit. And the Charges have shown and Brandon Staley's shown,

510
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Speaker 3: we don't really want you on the field right now

511
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Speaker 3: in those situations. Now, can you improve there? Absolutely? Granted

512
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 3: he's not the biggest guy, but we just saw Michael

513
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Speaker 3: Davis have the best year of his career against the run,

514
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Speaker 3: like significantly better than it ever has been. So it's

515
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Speaker 3: possible Sante Semul Junior could get better there. But as

516
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Speaker 3: it pretends playing the run, I think they might want

517
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Speaker 3: John Taylor there in the slot. Again, I think Assante

518
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 3: Simo Junior is the better corner. I probably would put

519
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 3: him out there anyway, because I think he's the better

520
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 3: corner and the better defensive back. But in the eyes

521
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: of Los Angeles Chargers and in Brendon Staley's eyes, it's

522
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Speaker 3: possible that John Taylor is the better slot corner for them.

523
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Speaker 3: And so I'm I'm giving this a fifty to fifty shot.

524
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Speaker 3: I think both guys have skill sets that are a

525
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 3: little bit different, their strengths that are a little bit different.

526
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Speaker 3: So I'll say it's about fifty to fifty.

527
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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm gonna go fifty to fifteen,

528
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Speaker 2: but JA see Taylor is gonna play for this team. Like,

529
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Speaker 2: I think people are you know, penciling as Sante Semi

530
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Speaker 2: junior and as the like one hundred percent he's gonna

531
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Speaker 2: play and be the starting slot corner, and I don't

532
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Speaker 2: agree with that. So I'm probably in between your fifty

533
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Speaker 2: to fifty and like the consensus because I do think

534
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 2: Jaseah Taylor is gonna play. I think part of that

535
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Speaker 2: is what you're talking about with run defense and also

536
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: Jaia Taylor's ability to bring pressure off of the edge

537
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: at times and be an effective blitzer. You know, Bryce

538
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: Callahan was a great pickup for the Chargers last year,

539
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 2: but I think his two weaknesses are run defense and blitzing.

540
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: I don't think those are strengths of his game. So

541
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Speaker 2: do the Chargers want to run that back essentially with

542
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Speaker 2: a Sante Sammy junior where your slot corner is almost

543
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Speaker 2: strictly a coverage slot corner. It doesn't really seem like

544
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Speaker 2: that's the plan. I think they would have simply brought

545
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Speaker 2: Bryce Calahan back if they wanted to do that with Asante.

546
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Speaker 2: So I think there's going to be an opportunity for

547
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Speaker 2: Jesseer Taylor to earn that kind of role. I don't

548
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Speaker 2: think he's going to be a three down player. We

549
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: know how much Brandon Sathey wants to play in the

550
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:44,239
Speaker 2: nickel formation almost exclusively. But I do agree with you

551
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: that there is definitely a role for Jaseer Taylor to

552
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: carve out with run defense, with blitzing, and I think

553
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 2: that's a significant role, right, Like, I think that's almost

554
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 2: a starter. Like it's so interesting to me, if JC

555
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 2: is healthy, the kind of flexibility that you have with

556
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 2: the three of them, because Michael Davis is almost strictly

557
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: an outside corner.

558
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: I think they kind of experimented.

559
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: With him last offseason, you know, giving him some safety

560
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: snaps and things like that, but he's almost exclusively an

561
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: outside corner. Jac Jackson has logged around four hundred snaps

562
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 2: in the slot when he was in New England, so

563
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: he's shown the ability to do that. So if j

564
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: C is healthy, you could you could start with JC

565
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: and Michael Davis on the outside and Jaseer Taylor on

566
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 2: the inside, and then you swap us onto Inforgencer maybe

567
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 2: that maybe he plays the slot, Maybe jac comes into

568
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 2: the slot, Assante goes back out wide, so you have

569
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: a lot of flexibility there. But I think definitely, there's

570
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Speaker 2: gonna be a bigger rotation than people are expecting at

571
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Speaker 2: this point in time. I think Assanta Sigmon Junior has

572
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: done a lot of great things for this Charters team,

573
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Speaker 2: especially in coverage. I think he has that that ballhawk

574
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: mentality to come in and change games. We've seen that

575
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: several times seen whether that was against the Colts, whether

576
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: against the Raiders in Week one, that was against the

577
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: Commanders last year in Week one, and we've seen him

578
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: be such an effective coverage player. But that run defense

579
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 2: weakness is real, and I think that gives an opportunity

580
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: for Jose or Taylor to carve out a role. And

581
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Speaker 2: I know people don't want to hear that, but it's

582
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: the truth.

583
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Speaker 1: Man.

584
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Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be a four man rotation if

585
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 2: jac is healthy this year at corner.

586
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, I would lean. I would love Asante Samuel

587
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 3: Junior out there starting Slaw all the time. I think of,

588
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: you know, years ago with like Desmond King the pick

589
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 3: six against the Cowboys, pick six against the Seahawks. You know,

590
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,239
Speaker 3: like that sort of stuff is also really needed out

591
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 3: there too. And like you said, ballhawk with this anti

592
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: Samuel Junior, that's his thing. As far as rotation goes,

593
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 3: we'll see. I think this is the most notable storyline overall,

594
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: like these four dbs. I think it's the most intriguing

595
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 3: part of camp, to be completely honest.

596
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm curious if they maybe experiment a little

597
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: bit with just here at safety to try and get

598
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: him out there, because if you're talking about like your

599
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: dime package, your best six dbs, like I think it's

600
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: Derwin and Alobi and then these four corners, I really do.

601
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: So you know, somebody is gonna have to cross train somewhere.

602
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: Maybe they want to get just hear Taylor out there

603
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: that much. But I'm excited for just Here, man. I

604
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: really am higher on him than a lot of people

605
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: seem to be. I think he has a very bright

606
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 2: future ahead of him as as that slot corner kind

607
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: of player. So I think we're both on the same

608
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: page there. Second question here, this is from Gibby. Gibbey says,

609
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: what off season changes slash editions so far have demonstrated

610
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 2: the ability to make a major difference. What can we

611
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 2: hope on fur on the defensive side against the run.

612
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: So I think this is more gear towards defensive changes.

613
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about Kellen Moore, so obviously I

614
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: think that to me would qualify for this question. But

615
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: let's focus in on the defensive side of things here, Tyler,

616
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Speaker 2: how would you respond to this question in terms of

617
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,239
Speaker 2: big additions on defense that would maybe of give us

618
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: some hope against the run in particular.

619
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's truly. I think the power that

620
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: he displays against the run, It'll take some time for

621
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Speaker 3: him to think to develop as a pass rusher and

622
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 3: ensure as a run defender, but what he can do immediately,

623
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Speaker 3: even at twenty years old, he's used the power in

624
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: his hands, the motor to at least play the run,

625
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: and I think in that regard, I think you can

626
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 3: improve the run defense. I think just having that option

627
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 3: behind Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack hopefully they're all healthy,

628
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 3: but I think as soon as one of those guys

629
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 3: went down, it's okay, let's run to the side of

630
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 3: the third string guy because they just weren't as strong

631
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: against the run. And that's fine. Not everybody's, you know,

632
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 3: a run defender kind of type. I think Tully right

633
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 3: now can definitely do that for them. I also think

634
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 3: just the switch we'll see, but I think the switch

635
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: early to a Lohi Gilman and to be your safety

636
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 3: too right now instead of this Seior utterly, I think

637
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: is going to pay off in terms of the run.

638
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes last year it really wasn't the it's

639
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 3: not that they gave up five yards to carry, four

640
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: yard to carry, whatever it was. It was the fifty

641
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: yard killers, the forty yard killers. And there was a

642
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: stretch there between like Week two and Week seven or

643
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: whatever it was, where every single week it was forty

644
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: or fifty yards and you always saw into Serior Adoley

645
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: just not being able to get there. The rest of

646
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: the defense too, of course, but I think with the

647
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: Lohi Gillman, you're hoping at least you can put a

648
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 3: lid on some of those. So I think those two

649
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: changes are pretty important.

650
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we talked about j Just Seer's role there

651
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: as well. I think there there's definitely some uncertainty with

652
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: this question. But theoretically the Chargers have upgraded their run

653
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: defense from the slot, their run defense from their edge three,

654
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: their run defense at linebacker one with Eric Kendricks. I

655
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: think that's a pretty clear upgrade in terms of run

656
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: defense from what they had last year with Drew Tranquill,

657
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: but you know, and then Alohi Gillman as well, So

658
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of unsettled potential there. The

659
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: other thing that I would bring up, too, is that

660
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: Morgan Fox is a very underrated run defender. You know,

661
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: we've seen him have some really strong moments down the

662
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: end of last season against the run, and at this

663
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: time last year he was heading into a fifty to

664
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: fifty split with Jerry Tillery for that kind of third

665
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: defensive tackle spot.

666
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: This year, that's going to be settled. That's his job.

667
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: They paid him a lot of money to stick around

668
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: rush the passer obviously first and foremost, but his run

669
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: defense is a clear upgrade as well, and so there's

670
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: definitely some areas of concern.

671
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: Obviously.

672
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: You know, the health of Austin Johnson is probably the

673
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: biggest question mark there because you and I have talked

674
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: about him being so good down.

675
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: To start the season last year for the Chargers.

676
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: But theoretically you look at the third defensive tackle spot,

677
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: the linebacker spot, the third edgrusser spot, and that line

678
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: of scrimmage part as potentially clear upgrades so I understand

679
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: the Chargers didn't like go out and make a big

680
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: splash like they did two years ago when they got

681
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: Austin Johnson in his fashion Joseph Day. But in theory,

682
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: I know that's not what everyone likes to hear. But theory,

683
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: the Chargers run defense should be better next year than

684
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: it was this past season. Things just have to kind of,

685
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: you know, click into place here when with health and

686
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: rotational pieces kind of earning those roles. But I think

687
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: from a personnel standpoint, it's not a huge upgrade. But

688
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: the Chargers didn't really need to do that. They just

689
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: needed like solid pieces to come in and earn those roles.

690
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: And I think that will happen. So I'm not.

691
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: Predicting like best run defense in the league, but if

692
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: everybody stays relatively healthy, I think this can be at

693
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: worst like a top twenty run defense, which is you know,

694
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: I think a nine spot upgrade from last year.

695
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like special teams for us, right, And hey,

696
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 3: we kept joking, we just want in the best part

697
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 3: of the twenties, you know, and say we end up

698
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 3: with what top ten or whatever it ended up being

699
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: for the Charges on special teams so yeah, I'll take it.

700
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: I think health is big. Morgan Fox talked about he

701
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 3: just I mean honest, he just knew his roles more.

702
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: They kind of found a way to work him better.

703
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: He gained some like positive weight throughout the season to

704
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: get better against the runs. Just stuff like that I

705
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 3: think will help. I think going into year two, everyone

706
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: for the most part, like gets their roles. They have

707
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 3: a defined role, and even like Kendricks, who's a newer

708
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 3: piece to this team, like his role is clearly defined.

709
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 3: I think that the Chargers there were so many incoming

710
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 3: pieces last year. What do I do? Who does this?

711
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: Is Kyle van Noya linebacker? Is your edge rusher? Is

712
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 3: this guy healthy?

713
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: Oh?

714
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: There goes Joey Bosa. I think this year and again

715
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 3: praying for health, the rules are so much more defined.

716
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 3: I think they'll be much better just naturally.

717
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 2: Yeah that too, And I think, you know, another year

718
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: in this system I think should help alleviate some of

719
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: those because a lot of the big explosive runs that

720
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: you're talking about, and a lot of it was just

721
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 2: like poor alignment issues with the secondary and sometimes the

722
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 2: linebacker is kind of not adjusting to what was happening.

723
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 2: Like the James Robinson run from the third week of

724
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: the season, right Like the Jaguars had like four bodies

725
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 2: over to the left and the Chargers defense never adjusted

726
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: and it was just like the easiest fifty yard run

727
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: you'll ever see. So I'm hopeful that in the system

728
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: with these guys and air Kendricks kind of coming over

729
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 2: and can clean some of those things up as well.

730
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: All right, Third question here from E Wing, a Fighter pilot,

731
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: one of the long time supporters of the show, so

732
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: appreciate him. He asked, we were ten and seven last year.

733
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 2: Surely with an upgrade at offensive coordinator, that's worth at

734
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: least one win, and he said speed and depth at

735
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: wide receiver is worth another win and healthy team and

736
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 2: a healthy team is worth another win. So he wants

737
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: to know if it's reasonable for us to see the

738
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: Chargers go thirteen and four this upcoming season in twenty

739
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: twenty three. So I think this is probably the more

740
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: optimistic side of things, and I understand like this is

741
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 2: part of that offseason. I will point out obviously that

742
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: last year the Chargers were one in seven against playoff teams.

743
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: They handled their business against teams they should have won,

744
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 2: and that should be commended because that's been a weakness

745
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 2: in the past. You know, they had an easier schedule

746
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: last year than they will this year.

747
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 1: So that's the first thing that I'll point out.

748
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 2: It's not just a one for one swap here, because

749
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: the Chargers are going to have a much more difficult

750
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: schedule this year. There's fewer games against teams that they

751
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: should definitely win against with a more difficult schedule. But Tyler,

752
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 2: how would you respond to this question outside of the

753
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: schedule differences.

754
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: That's how I would respond to it, to be completely honest.

755
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 3: I mean seriously, like I get the upgrades for the Chargers,

756
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 3: like there should be a better team. They are, I

757
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 3: think a better team. They have plenty of depth now

758
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 3: for the most part. But the rest of the NFL

759
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 3: gets better too, Like the Chiefs got a lot better

760
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 3: on defense. Let's not forget about that. It's possible the

761
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: Broncos are a better team. The Raiders are not so great.

762
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: But you know, things could work out for other teams.

763
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 3: But it's the schedule is so much more difficult for

764
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: the Chargers this year, and there's not that stretch of

765
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield rams, Nick Foles, colds and that sort of thing.

766
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 3: Ryan Anaho on one foot, Now there might be yeah, yeah,

767
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 3: So I can't really go out and predict, you know

768
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 3: that the Chargers are going to go thirteen and four

769
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 3: because of the rest of the NFL. Right, yes, the

770
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: Chargers got better, but so did a lot of the NFL,

771
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 3: and so did their schedule. Their schedule is tough. And

772
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 3: then just as it is as a Chargers fan, we know, listen,

773
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 3: I could go through every game and pitch to you

774
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: several ideas and reasons why they're gonna beat every single team.

775
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: I can tell you why they're gonna beat the Mac

776
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 3: Jones led Patriots, and yet are we picking them to

777
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 3: beat the Patriots? I don't know. You know, I could

778
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 3: pitch you twenty ways they beat the Broncos in Denver

779
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 3: the last ten years, and here we are wondering why

780
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 3: the heck they can't win in Denver. So it's just

781
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: naturally as a Chargers fan, it's whatever I think they

782
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 3: can do minus won for a game that they should

783
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 3: have won, minus probably another one for health reasons. So

784
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: I think like eleven and like if they go eleven

785
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 3: and six, I genuinely think that's a good season. And

786
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 3: a step forward, like maybe even a big step forward,

787
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 3: maybe depends on who they beat and how they do it.

788
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 3: I think eleven and six, even though it didn't seem

789
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 3: like a lot in the record, I think that does

790
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 3: mean a lot, and that does mean positive momentum heading

791
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: into the postseason, which is where it matters anyway.

792
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, when we did our game by game

793
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 2: prediction a few weeks so we will settle on eleven

794
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: and six different games obviously in there as wins and losses,

795
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 2: But I think Ewing is definitely right about the improvement, right, Like,

796
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: I think we can all agree that Kellen Moore is

797
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: going to be an upgraded offensive coordinator. I mean, we

798
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: just had the show this week earlier this week with

799
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: Sean Sayed, and you know, it's impossible for me to

800
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 2: like contain my excitement about the offensive side of the

801
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: football and Justin Herbert being healthy and Quentin Johnson, like,

802
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: I think that that unit can carry this team to

803
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: a special, special season. You know, does that translate to

804
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: thirteen and four, I'm not sure yet. I think because

805
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: of where the Chargers play in the AFC and in

806
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: the AFC West, it's hard for me to really get

807
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: to thirteen wins for this team. But the potential is there, absolutely.

808
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 2: I think there's just some other things that would have

809
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 2: to click together for this team to really get me

810
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: to thirteen wins. So I think we'll see ten to

811
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 2: eleven wins, maybe twelve, depending if some bounces of the football,

812
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: But we'll feel much better about this team heading down

813
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: the stretch that we did then last year if everybody

814
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 2: stays healthy. I think, you know, there was some doubt

815
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 2: in a lot of our minds about really how good

816
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: that team was. You know, you look at statistics like

817
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: DVOA and EPA pri play that they were not a

818
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: ten win team. You know, that's a team that traditionally

819
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: wins kind of maybe eight games, maybe nine. So you know,

820
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: the schedule really boosted their win total last year.

821
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 1: This year, the schedule is gonna be much more difficult.

822
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: So I think the.

823
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 2: Potential for the Chargers have a truly special season is

824
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 2: there one hundred percent. Whether or not that seeps into

825
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: me predicting thirteen and four, I think is another story.

826
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 3: Yeah for me. It also just starts with the Chiefs.

827
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: So what do you ewing or what do I think

828
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: the Chiefs record is going to be I think it's

829
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 3: better than the Chargers. So what is their record fifteen

830
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: and two? Then if the Charges are thirteen and four,

831
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: you know, like I just think that the Chiefs are

832
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 3: realistically maybe like I don't know, fourteen and three or

833
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 3: whatever it is, thirteen and four. I hate these new numbers.

834
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: It used to be so much easier. Guys. I'm dying

835
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 3: doing math right here right now.

836
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: Charges.

837
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I took biology for a reason. What was

838
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 3: I even talking about? Anyway? I think the Chargers are

839
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 3: maybe like a game or two below the Chiefs. So

840
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 3: if you say that the Chiefs or Charges are thirteen

841
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 3: and four, then the Chiefs might have had one of

842
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 3: the greatest regular seasons ever.

843
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it sucks, man. We're the team behind

844
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: the current dynasty right now. So it's it's really tough

845
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: for me to like get on board with, like, yeah,

846
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: like the Chargers are gonna win thirteen fourteen games. It's like, oh,

847
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: they're like, the Chiefs are a better team. They have

848
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 2: they are, as much as we want to think otherwise.

849
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: I think the Chargers have the potential to have lighting

850
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: in the ball strike this year, and you know, get

851
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: to those fourteen wins and win the division. Absolutely, it

852
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: can happen every single year, but it's just the realistic

853
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: part of me can't really see that happening. So again,

854
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: the offense is going to be so much better this

855
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: year than it was last year. I don't know if

856
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 2: that's going to translate to winning the division in thirteen

857
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: fourteen wins. Yeah, all right, next question here, potentially our

858
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: last one here.

859
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: This is from Robert.

860
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 2: He says, is there a chance that Bosa and Mac

861
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: break the all time sack record for a duo It

862
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 2: currently sits at thirty nine. He wants to know where

863
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 2: they break that forty barrier or is Dolman and.

864
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: Millard's record safe.

865
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: So I think doman record, their record has come dangerously

866
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 2: close to being.

867
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: Broken over the past couple of years.

868
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: I want to think like Alden Smith and Jason Smith

869
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 2: came close one year. Obviously, Joey Bosa has not surpassed

870
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: his career high of twelve and a half that he

871
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: set as a rookie. It's been some time since Khalil

872
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 2: Mack has had more than twelve sacks as well. So Tyler,

873
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: what kind of potential are you setting for Joey and

874
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: khalil As as a duo heading to twenty twenty three.

875
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: I think the sacks almost don't even matter. To be

876
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 3: completely honest, it's always, at least for Joey Bosa been

877
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: the per play stats. Thirty nine is the records of

878
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: forty to break it. I think they've both their best

879
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 3: years if you combined them, I think they were under

880
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 3: thirty combined, So it would be a big jump for them.

881
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 3: So do I think they get it? Not necessarily, and honestly,

882
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: I think that I hope that they keep these guys

883
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 3: fresh enough where the sacks don't really matter, right, we

884
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 3: really want the per play stats to look good, to

885
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 3: be good, I want them to be healthy. They started

886
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 3: last years and I think eighty percent of the snaps

887
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: they were out there. That's a little bit much. So

888
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 3: hopefully they kind of peel things back just a little bit. Yeah,

889
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: forty's a lot. It'd be great and that would be

890
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 3: one of the most fun seasons if they do that.

891
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 3: But I think I think forty is out of reach.

892
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 3: I'd say like a good sixteen to seventeen each would

893
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 3: be really really nice and I think realistic because of

894
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: you know them individually, maybe not so much. But together

895
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: you saw it against the Raiders. It looked like it

896
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 3: was magical. So I think they're healthy. Then, yeah, I

897
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 3: think thirty five it should be reachable. Forty is a

898
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 3: whole like another jump that I don't know if they'll

899
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: be able to reach. We'll see.

900
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, forty I think is probably too much.

901
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: You know, at this time last year, I was doing

902
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: my Joey Bosa rewatch them the twenty twenty one season,

903
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: and before the season I predicted a seventeen sax season

904
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 2: from Joey Bosa. Obviously he gets injured, that didn't come

905
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 2: to fruition. But I do think that there's a chance

906
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: for Joey to have a career season this year, you know,

907
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: being fully healthy for the first time, being able to

908
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: come in with a full offseason. And Khalilly gets the

909
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: same kind of conversation too, right, because Khalil was coming

910
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 2: off the foot injury at this time last year, he

911
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 2: was not working with the team in the spring. He

912
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: was still working his way back from the foot surgery

913
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 2: that ended his twenty twenty one season with the Bears,

914
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: so ultimately led to his trading to the Chargers. So

915
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: I think the potential for Joey to have a career

916
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 2: high season is definitely there. You know, we've seen him

917
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: have these great seasons alongside Melvin Ingram and obviously Uchenna

918
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: and Moosu in that mix as well in twenty eighteen,

919
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: so I think Joey can definitely have a career high season.

920
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: Still.

921
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: I know people are kind of down on him after

922
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: the way the season ended, but Joey's one of the

923
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: best ed Russians in the league still. In my opinion,

924
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that the goal for Khalil Mack in twenty

925
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: twenty three is more geared towards efficiency the per play stats,

926
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: because I think he was kind of worn down in

927
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 2: the middle of the season without Joey, Bosa and Kylin

928
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: and always still kind of trying to figure his role out.

929
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: So I'm hopeful that two Lee Twequoalow two brings a

930
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: greater efficiency for Klumac, keeps him a little bit more fresh.

931
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: But then obviously we'd bring the sack total down. So

932
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: I think the potential is there for these two to

933
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: be dominant the season. Absolutely, does it lead to forty sacks,

934
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 2: that's probably a little bit much for me. I think

935
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: we right Now, if I had to like predict, I

936
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: would say we probably see Joey hit like around fifteen,

937
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: Clue maybe gets back to ten for the first time

938
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 2: in a couple of seasons, and I think with twenty

939
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: five ish, maybe thirty if everything goes right, I think

940
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 2: you feel great about that season for the two of them.

941
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be fantastic. And again, there, what they

942
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 3: do on the field goes so much beyond just the sacks, right,

943
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: It's the pressures, it's the ability against the run, it's

944
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: the double teams, it's the stunts and et cetera. So

945
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter to me at the end of

946
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: the day if they get forty or not, although it'd

947
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 3: be great if they did, yeah, a hundred percent.

948
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 2: But I do think that people are going to remember

949
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 2: what these two look like when they're both healthy, when

950
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: they both have a full off season, when they both

951
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 2: have a running mate who can properly take attention away

952
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: from the other one. Obviously, both of them have to

953
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: stay healthy this year, which is so crucial for this

954
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 2: team to reach their potential. But I'm optimistic that these

955
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: two play the majority of this season together this year. Yeah,

956
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: me too, man, all Right, that's going to do it

957
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Speaker 2: for us today. Appreciate everybody for tuning in. Like I

958
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: said earlier, make sure and subscribe to the Chargers channel here.

959
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961
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: what you guys think of the comments. Who's your preseason

962
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: breakout potential star candidate?

963
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: Who?

964
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: What do you think of our predictions here on this show?

965
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: And as always, tuned for our next episode. We're hopefully

966
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: working in an interview with a high quality guest on

967
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: our next show, but we'll keep you guys posted there

968
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 2: all right. Appreciate Tyler, Appreciate Greg Kim and Ben Chernoff

969
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: for producing the show today. That's gonna do it for us.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you guys next time, and as always, welcome