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Speaker 1: Yeah, fantasy freaks and geeks. What's up? That's the NFL

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Live Podcast. What day today? Thursday Day? I have

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Speaker 1: no clue. We usually do this on Tuesday. I think

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Speaker 1: last week we did on a Monday. Now here we

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Speaker 1: are out a beautiful Thursday. The whisked from Wisconsin. Alex.

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Speaker 1: It's a full house today, folks. It's the whiz kid

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Speaker 1: from Wisconsin, Alex Gilhart. MG. My guy Marcus Grant. Uh,

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Speaker 1: just fresh off the Bay Area. What's up, dude? How

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Speaker 1: was Vallejo? It was great. It was nice to be

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Speaker 1: back home. Um. I got a lot of forty in rotation,

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Speaker 1: a whole year. There you go. Reception Perception Master Matt Harmon,

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Speaker 1: the possibly the greatest fantasy analyst from the state of

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Speaker 1: West Virginia. Man, I was really when you started off

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Speaker 1: with Reception Perception, I was like, maybe he's not gonna

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Speaker 1: say anything about West Virginia and then you know it's

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Speaker 1: coming out. But you know who else we got in

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Speaker 1: the house. We have the great Adam Rank. It's been

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Speaker 1: a while. What's happen? And there goes the click out,

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Speaker 1: like everyone's like, all right, we're out. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you if you didn't just big timiss all the time,

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Speaker 1: how did I not big? You've got look, you've got

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Speaker 1: your you've got your fancy little you know, NFL Network show.

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Speaker 1: Now that you're the host of Matt and NFL Live.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's the one. It'll be airing on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: I hope, and I feel as if. I don't know

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Speaker 1: filmed wee. I don't think it's part of the everybody'll

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Speaker 1: be on Saturday. Everybody should tune in. You can check

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Speaker 1: it out on twitch and on NFL Network on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: right rank yep Saturday. Actually it's a it's a good

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Speaker 1: bar show for people on the West coast, okay, because

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Speaker 1: if you're still at the bar at midnight, right and

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Speaker 1: there's three dudes in pajamas playing video games. It leads

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Speaker 1: NFL network right now? Um? I think the I think

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Speaker 1: the comment that I I commonly get is they pay

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Speaker 1: these guys to do this. They get They telled us

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Speaker 1: that all the time. That's fantasy analysts every Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: where people are stopped being surprised that people get paid

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Speaker 1: to do well, it's more I think for us, it's less.

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Speaker 1: I think, guys, that's like, wow, they get paid to

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Speaker 1: got paid for that. Yeah, that's a very good point.

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Speaker 1: But I sit there if I see a bartender, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you get paid for this, rinks all night. That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Like I would do that for free. Oh you would

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Speaker 1: not dealing with Are you kidding? That would be horrible, Really,

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Speaker 1: it would be awful. Do you think it's easy being

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Speaker 1: besmirched on Twitter of my maddened skills? It's not easy.

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Speaker 1: Bit show, Today, we're gonna talk about af C West

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Speaker 1: at nauseum. We'll give our daily depths. We'll start with

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl recap. Look that minor event that kind

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Speaker 1: of disrupted our home. Look it's Thursday. The game happen

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. I get it, you know, and everything that

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Speaker 1: There's no question about the final obviously. Uh different tune

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Speaker 1: all right, well, what did you guys say? I mean,

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Speaker 1: around the horn. I guess your takeaways from the game.

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Speaker 1: I was just happy to see the Broncos feed CJ.

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Speaker 1: Anderson and not Ronnie Hillman. We were talking this about

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Speaker 1: this last night. The line was twenty three carries, ninety

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Speaker 1: nice to five for zero for Ronnie Hellman five carries, Yes,

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Speaker 1: even think he's in the touch Marcus. I thought, I

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Speaker 1: I took shots to Peyton Manning. But for you to

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Speaker 1: say it's ridiculous. Hold on, ranked, You've hadged time and

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Speaker 1: the sun harmon, Marcus, what do you guys think? I'm

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Speaker 1: any of this conversation? Roughly sixty more seconds and we're

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Speaker 1: the Denver defense on this playoff, right, And then he

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Speaker 1: then seventy seven this year, right, a hundred seventy seven targets.

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Speaker 1: So I wonder if that's going to continue to happen

423
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Speaker 1: in you know, in an offense that really the big

424
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 1: butting of heads was Manning still wanted to throw the

425
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 1: ball and do his thing, and Kubiak wanted to be

426
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Speaker 1: more conservative, which I think leads to the C. J.

427
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 1: Anderson Ronnie Hillman discussion of if Peyton Manning isn't there.

428
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 1: I think we're all kind of operating on the assumption

429
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 1: that Peyton is going to retire please very soon. No. No,

430
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 1: he's going to the L A Rams okay too, which

431
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: is kind of like retirement. Um so that was good. No,

432
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 1: I like that behind case keenum um oh, that was

433
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Speaker 1: the first time I've ever said that on any sort

434
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Speaker 1: of and them still being the L A Ram Wow.

435
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 1: Um yeah. And I mean I just think it means

436
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 1: that they will be a lot more running. It will

437
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 1: be the offense Gary Kubiak wants it to be, and

438
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: I think that bodes very well for C. J. Anderson

439
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 1: and not you know, Ronnie Hillman is I guess, I

440
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 1: guess the handcuff if you're into that sort of thing.

441
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I don't need that. I

442
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 1: don't think they will. I really don't. I wouldn't imagine though,

443
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: that if he doesn't get like a sniff from another team,

444
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: and to be honest, like, whoo, who would really? You know,

445
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: backs are a dime a dozen. I don't know, he

446
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: could easily be back down like a super limited deal,

447
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: but maybe not, maybe not. I don't know, we'll see.

448
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: How about the Kansas City Chiefs, they were but did

449
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 1: we mention I don't know, somebody mentioned like C. J. Anderson.

450
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 1: I think, Um, one thing is that the new way

451
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 1: a lot of people are drafting, it's going wide receiver heavy.

452
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: I see C. J. Anderson being next year's Doug Martin. Okay,

453
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 1: the guy you grab in the fourth or fifth round, right,

454
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, is your number one running back

455
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 1: at the end of the season. And if you got

456
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: a couple of great wide receivers at the top of

457
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: the draft, you're gonna be looking pretty gain Okay. Kansas

458
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: City Chiefs, Uh, it's an offense that I don't know,

459
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: didn't have too many stars in it really because Jamal

460
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: Charles goes down, Jeremy Macklin was so so um and

461
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey I thought disappointed big time this year as well. Um.

462
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: I guess what do we make of the Kansas City

463
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: Chiefs And what do we think they're gonna do in

464
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 1: They're gonna do in sixteen about what they did in

465
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: I mean, is there a more just milk toast offense

466
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: out there than the Kansas City Chiefs that there's there's

467
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: nothing about them that really gets you excited. I mean,

468
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: I like milk toast. Jamal Charles. I like Jamal Charles

469
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: a lot, but you know, you have to wonder how

470
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: much he can injury you continue to carry this offense.

471
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: Jeremy Maclin is a fine wide receiver to Fantasy wise,

472
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get much out of Alex Smith. Travis

473
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: Kelsey was very lackluster. He kind of disappeared at times

474
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Speaker 1: this year. And I mean that's that is who they

475
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: are and I don't see anything changing with them. Can

476
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Speaker 1: I talk about Jamal Charles very quickly. I'd love to

477
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: get to get your take on Jamal Charles here, because, um,

478
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: I still think he will go somewhere in the top

479
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: twelve picks. I don't know maybe. I mean he's he's

480
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: very at the tail end of those twelve picks. Yeah,

481
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 1: and he's not a top five guy. But I mean

482
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: it really depends on how you like how the people

483
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: in your league draft. I mean, if there's people I know,

484
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: sometimes when we do mock draft, there's still a lot

485
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: of people who are taken like we did one. I

486
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: think for our one of our last live shows, and

487
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: everybody's joking about like, oh, the wide receivers are gonna

488
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: go crazy. I was the only one pick and wide

489
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: receiver Jamal Charles with the fourth overall picker, Like, what

490
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: is happening with people? Like, don't do this stuff anymore,

491
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: especially with a guy who's injury prone. Well, I guess

492
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: that's the takeaway, right, I mean when he plays, he

493
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: just looks so amazing, right, so real quick, I just

494
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: went to uh Fantasy Football calculatory, have mock drafts open

495
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 1: that people have been doing, and apparently for so far,

496
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: Jamal Charles has been going on average at about the

497
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: twelfth pick. There you go. I I just I get

498
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: the feeling after what we saw from Shark Andric West

499
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: and from Spencer, where they're going to get that it's

500
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 1: gonna be more gone. You know, you've got a guy

501
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: in Jamal Charles who's getting a little bit older, who,

502
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: as you referenced James, has had some injuries over the

503
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: last few years. And and plus we we know that

504
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: Andy Reid has this habit of forgetting the Jamal Charles

505
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: is on his team every once in a while and

506
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: then apologizing at the end of the game, say stuff

507
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: like I should have given him the ball more. That

508
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: is his favorite. That's his favorite move he loves doing.

509
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: Aside from mismanaging the clock at the end of the game.

510
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: He is the best recorder coach. Um. But you know,

511
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: I just I just have this sense that whoever it is,

512
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: whether it's West or where I right now leans toward West.

513
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,479
Speaker 1: But whoever, they're gonna be in a lot heavier rotation

514
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,719
Speaker 1: with Jamal Charles next year might be true. I think

515
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: that they end up rotating a little bit, and especially

516
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: I think where has value as like a closer for

517
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: a team that is defensive heavy, you know, a big,

518
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: grinded out like bully running back at the end. So,

519
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't expect it to be a full

520
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: blown committee, but they'll get sprinkled in more than in

521
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: years past very quickly. If he's available at twelve for

522
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: you guys, do you take him? I think I'd feel

523
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 1: more comfortable waiting. Yeah, I mean, if he's available at twenty,

524
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 1: do you take him? Yes? Oh yeah, wait, oh yeah,

525
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: that would I guess askew your your wide receiver, wide receiver. Yeah,

526
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident. I'm like dull wide receivers. I'm doing

527
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: one of these fake mock drafts right now. Okay, great,

528
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: just to see where he ends up. Just to see

529
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: where he ends up. Quick for science, quick point on

530
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: the on the passing game, like we're talking about Travis

531
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: Kelsey kind of disappointed it and I agree, But wasn't

532
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: his His season was the same as the one before. Yeah,

533
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: that's what I think. Expectations were so high. Literally it

534
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: was almost exactly the same end the problem that we're

535
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: talking about Kansas City being a milk toast offense, Like

536
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: he had a hundred and three targets and people were

537
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: constantly complaining about how little he was being featured. He

538
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: still had twenty two point two percent of the team

539
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: targets because they just don't throw the ball. Alex Smith

540
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: was like nineteen in attempts this year with only four

541
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: hundred and seventies. So, but you're right the seasons, Actually

542
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: I didn't. I forgot how close they were. This year

543
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: he had eight seventy five yards in five touchdowns. Last

544
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: year he had eight sixty two and five. Are you

545
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 1: worried about the new by the way he was in

546
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: a contract here? Are you worried that he got a

547
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: fat new contract. Does it scare you off? It's also

548
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: going to be on a dating show. I'll tell you this.

549
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: That scares me off more than the contract. I'm not

550
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 1: gonna lie. He's gonna be on a dating reality show

551
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: on e that features fifty women. And this was that

552
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: was announced one day before he signed his fat new contract.

553
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: I thought it was the same day because everybody's a

554
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: great day for Travis Kelsey because that came out and

555
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: it was it was It felt like the same day

556
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: because the sports websites didn't pick it up until into

557
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: the celebrity dating world. I mean, my wife and Daily Mail. Holy,

558
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: it's like, do you know this Travis Kelchy guy? Yes?

559
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: It was like, uh Kelsey, Yes, I know him. Good

560
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: for him though. He's a very handsome man. Oh my gosh, Yes,

561
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 1: he's incredibly I would like to think that I'm like

562
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: the bootleg version of him. He just calls himself that

563
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: we have similar hair. Oh all right, and that was

564
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: a fantasy podcast. Shut it down now, hole, I don't

565
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: even know where that one came from. That was that's amazing,

566
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: peacock over, we have a similar style. So should we

567
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: talking about the Raiders? Let's let's let's move along here,

568
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: let's move wait. In this mock draft that I just did, Okay,

569
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: Jamal Charles went in a Jordy Nelson went twelve. Okay,

570
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: are these real people? I don't know. Well, I mean,

571
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: here's the thing. If you're on Fantasy Football calculator today,

572
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: you have to be a little bit of a freak.

573
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: So I'm assuming they're focused. That's what I'm saying. Yeah,

574
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: fantasy I was gonna say, and I because I'm just saying,

575
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: I mean, these are probably semi serious, at least semi

576
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: serious fantasy football players. These are the sharps, and the

577
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: first twelve picks go A B, Girly Levi On, Odell Beckham,

578
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: Julio Jones, David Johnson, Adrian Peterson at seven, Gronkowski, DeAndre Hopkins,

579
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: Dez Bryan, Allen Robinson, Jordy Nelson. Like that's yeah, that's like, well,

580
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: that's also that's also a very reactionary first round to

581
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: this year. I think once the offseason hits and we

582
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: get things settled, you know, things will shift a little bit.

583
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: But once more Terry signs with the Cowboys, then all

584
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: of a sudden, can you talk about him being the

585
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: number one over talk about that's the worst possible scenario.

586
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: How about Doug Martin signing with the Cowboys. Hello, that's fine,

587
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: he not going anywhere, alright, Raiders Raiders? Uh takeaways? How

588
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: about this Michael Crabtree, I mean, one of the best

589
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: offseason signings for any team, given his production and given

590
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: his salary. It was great. Lottavius Murray I thought, was okay,

591
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: not what's crazy about him? As you say, okay finished

592
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: as the RB ten. I know, but it was weird.

593
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's weird here. I mean Danny what was

594
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: like Danny wood Head was like three spots behind him.

595
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: I mean he was in overall, So it's it's a

596
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: messed up here, I know. Uh. Derek Carr certainly showed

597
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: a lot of promise and he he's going to be

598
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: one of those quarterbacks that if you're waiting on quarterback,

599
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: he will absolutely be one of those guys that you

600
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: will be targeting. Um, I guess what do we take

601
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: away from and uh, looking ahead? What do we think

602
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: Matt Harmon. Yeah, the Raiders offense and especially Derek Carr

603
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: kind of took a little bit of a step back

604
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: in the second half of the year. But I also

605
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: think a lot of that had to do with the

606
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: protection falling apart. So perhaps they make some more moves

607
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. This is a really interesting offense

608
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: because you know, not only his car progressing, but you

609
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: mentioned Latavius Murray, who was like the most me running

610
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: back one campaign of all times. I mean like he

611
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: most like more often than not, he got you like

612
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: eight points, you know, right, only I think a few

613
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: times that he ever, Yeah, he popped like a couple

614
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: of twenty point ones. So honestly, like, I think they

615
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: will probably add at least another like significant body in

616
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: the backfield and make that more confusing. Oh my gosh,

617
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: I hope not. They already have like seventeen running backs.

618
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but like hello and Marcel Reese and all

619
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: the wal Jimmy, okay, so they all got car. Yeah,

620
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: I know you're right. I just think they'll probably make

621
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: a more significant move I would expect. I'm not disparaging

622
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: any of those players you just mentioned. I wouldn't be

623
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: surprised if they did that as well. It was to

624
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: me shocking how few big plays he had. We're talking

625
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: about and we're talking about a big body guy that

626
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: had tremendous speed, unbelievable, and we saw his coming out

627
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: party the year prior when when what was he chief

628
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: touchdowns on four carries? You also got hurt and concussion

629
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: and he was gone for I saw, I saw an

630
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: interesting study. I forget who did it, so I apologized

631
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Speaker 1: to the person on Twitter that was looking at it

632
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: last this past offseason. But how even in his limited

633
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: sample size, uh, Murray was very much a boom er

634
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: bust runner. Which is kind of funny because I was

635
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: looking at the number of explosive plays recently that running

636
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: backs had, and of backs with over a hundred carries,

637
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: Murray ranked in the percentage of his carries that went

638
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: for ten plus yards. That's not good. And I tried

639
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: to warn you guys, I was not on the Lotavious

640
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,239
Speaker 1: Murray bandwig. Okay, everybody like Aquazabar works out with him

641
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: hashtag shirtless workout workout. You see. He's one of the

642
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: host of American Enginayer. He's also on the Fantasy Football show. Um,

643
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I like the mirror doulas.

644
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to be, you know, two full of myself,

645
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: but at least I got let see when you you

646
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: have a huge with like you gotta look back on

647
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: one guy, You're like, no, no, no no, But I was

648
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: right about Latavius Murray, right, And that's what That's really

649
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: one of the thing about when you when you look

650
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: at guys like Murray is asked the people who drafted,

651
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: how did you feel about having Latavius Murray on your team?

652
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: I would say most of most people will be like disappointed.

653
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: I will tell you there was a lot of one

654
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: because I remember bringing this up a couple of weeks ago,

655
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: and a lot of people are like, hey, I'll take

656
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: that eight points from my running back to him. Like

657
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: you guys gotta raise your expectations, right, don't set mediocre.

658
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: But it depends on what you have surrounding it, like

659
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: went real early, Like if you're if you're running back,

660
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: if you let's say your three wide receivers were Antonio Brown,

661
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, and Allen Robinson, then yeah, I'll take the

662
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: eight points from the running back all day. I think.

663
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: I think regardless, I think, regardless of position um which

664
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 1: I have wide receiver um or running back. Eight points

665
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: is fine on most weeks, but every now and again

666
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: they got a pop for twice. I also think that

667
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: I don't think he had one of those. I don't

668
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: think the attitude of I'll take eight points from my

669
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: r B two came from a season where you just

670
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: didn't know who your R basis. So you're like, you

671
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: know what if I can get eight, fine, figure out it,

672
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: Murray or Antonio Andrews. It's true. So it's very True's

673
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: talk with the passing game, real quick. Derek Card thirty

674
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, just shy four thousand yards, pretty Tree caught nine,

675
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: Cooper caught six. What do we think about this duo?

676
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: Any those other wide receivers gonna encroach on this? And

677
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: could Clive Walford be a sneaky sneaky tight end when

678
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: you when you talk about Marie Cooper and you know

679
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: it's a I think a symptom of young wide receivers.

680
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: I just need some more consistency out of him. Um,

681
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: you know you can have these huge weeks. I mean

682
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm looking you know, uh, you know he went forty

683
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: seven in week one, the next two weeks one oh nine,

684
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: one thirty four, then it was below fifty. You know,

685
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: it was it was really kind of boom or bust

686
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: with him. And so hopefully he's a great flex playlist.

687
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: He's a good flex flex play and I mean, look,

688
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: he is immensely talented, and I expect that he will

689
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: continue to grass and I think exactly, I still do

690
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 1: think part of it is that this rookie wide receiving

691
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: class was sort of handicapped by the group that came

692
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: before it. The group previously was so phenomenal that I

693
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: think it raised the bar unfairly for this group. Cause

694
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: I think I think the rookies that we had, at

695
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: least Amari Cooper, because a lot of them were hurt

696
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: and we didn't play until late Um, there was just

697
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: no way that they could live up oh the expectations

698
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: in front of them. All Right, So what do you

699
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: expect for a Mark Cooper next year? I mean, if

700
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: he takes a step forward, he's gonna be a second

701
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: year player. Uh. He's got a big, strong armed Um,

702
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: I guess he's not big, but he's got a strong

703
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: armed quarterback in Derek carr Um. And they seem to

704
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: have some chemistry building there. Um. I know we've been

705
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: kind of you know, riding uh Latavious Murray a little bit.

706
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: But I mean I think He's still a pretty solid

707
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: running back. Maybe not spectacular, but but certainly a guy

708
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: that you can give the ball to. UM, what are

709
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: your expectations, Adam Rank for for Marik Cooper next year.

710
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: I have huge expectations for Cooper. He's I mean, up

711
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: until as Marcus was talking about last year, most wide

712
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: receivers made that huge leap in their second season, and

713
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: that's third. Yeah, the second or third it's usually when

714
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: they come alut because it's a hard position to learn.

715
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: Although the college game is evolving, so that's helping out.

716
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: I expect him to have a Alan Robinson type season

717
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: and he's we're talking double did you touchdowns? Oh? Yeah? Yeah?

718
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: This the one thing, the one thing that, like I

719
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the Charges in a moment. The one

720
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: thing I think the moving hanging over the Chargers is

721
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: gonna be worse than it is for the Like the Raiders,

722
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: it just business as usual, like playing a terrible stadium.

723
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: Nobody cares. UM. I think that. I honestly, I think

724
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: Derek Carr gets a lot better and I think Mark

725
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: I think both those guys take huge steps. I think

726
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 1: they could they could find a running back I started

727
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: not enough to keep me from cutting of I. I

728
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: really think that this could this could be like a

729
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: Jags type breakout with this group just kind of like whoa,

730
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: these are fantasy superstars all of a sudden vain. Here's

731
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: what I was going to kind of say. Is my

732
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: sentiment on the Raiders as of right now heading into

733
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: looking at this next fantasy season. I would love to

734
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: have a lot of these players on my team, but

735
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: I don't right now want to get in the point

736
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: where I feel like I'm reaching for them, Whereas like

737
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: with you know, with like Martavis Bryan and stuff like that,

738
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: last year, I felt more comfortable reaching for them. Right now,

739
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: I would love to have these Raiders on my team,

740
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: but I don't know, Like I don't know if I

741
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: want to reach for a Marii Cooper at like round four.

742
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: I think I feel like every single one of these

743
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: players could be a value, right yeah, I'd be. The

744
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: thing with Mary Cooper that was so great coming out

745
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: was like he was incredibly polished, like as a route runner,

746
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: like like almost weirdly so. And he's still only twenty

747
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: one years old, like freshly twenty one old too, which

748
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: is why he's like already a top like five dynasty receiver.

749
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: If you play in a dynasty league, people love him.

750
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: But Marcus is right, he was definitely very inconsistent as

751
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: a rookie. He I talked about drops earlier and how

752
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: it's kind of stupid, but he did also like a

753
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus had him with like eighteen drops and

754
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: which was by far the most in the league. Uh.

755
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: He definitely has some flaws. But and one thing that

756
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 1: people don't know. I don't think kind of people forget

757
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: is that Crabtree actually led the team in targets this Yes,

758
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 1: he did, and Cooper was second. I expect that to reverse.

759
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: Didn't Crabtree have all the red zone targets too? Yeah,

760
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: he was like the featured guy in the red zone. Um,

761
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: but I think I think those two numbers kind of

762
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: start to reverse. Though. I do think Crabtree is a

763
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: great security blanket for car and I I also expect

764
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: big things out of well. I think I think the

765
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: year began with the hope that that Cooper would lead

766
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: the team in targets. And I think, you know, because

767
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: of his inconsistency and because Crabtree really was a steadying

768
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to say he was a

769
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: possession receiver, but he was that guy that Derek Carr

770
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: felt like he could go to when you know, when

771
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: they needed to convert on third down. Michael Crabtree was

772
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: the guy they were looking for. I mean also like talk,

773
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: Cooper like started getting number one coverage right off the bat,

774
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: which is like why you know, okay, all right, he

775
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: might not be defeating that coverage on a regular basis.

776
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: I'll just rely on you know, crab Tree facing the

777
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 1: number two Corns. All right, Where do you take Cooper

778
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: next year? I feel as if early, like if I

779
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: had to project him today right now, I would say

780
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 1: he's probably going in the fifth round in ten team leagues,

781
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: fifth fourth round. Yeah, that's why I said, like not,

782
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be comfortable reaching for him in the fourth.

783
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: But if he's sitting there in the fifth, they're six,

784
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: Like absolutely, Derek car can't I never do well in

785
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: the fifth round? Round is amazing. I'm really gonna just

786
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: jump in on the fourth so I don't get him

787
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: in the fifth. You don't put that specter on him,

788
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna I really believe I said this at

789
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: the end of the I think it was one of

790
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: our last fantasy shows. I said, I'm gonna just take

791
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: Gostkowski in the fifth round, and just so I know

792
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: that I'm getting consistent points. It's two years ago. Two

793
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: years ago it was Cordial Patterson. Last year it was

794
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: although one league I did have Todd Gurley. Un Um,

795
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: Derek Carr, Where are you taking him? I mean, it's

796
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: gonna be double digit, It's gonna be double digit. Yeah,

797
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: without it, I think if you're waiting on a uarterback,

798
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: I think he mentioned this earlier. Um, I think so, yeah, yeah,

799
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: somebody talking about one of the prime candidates of the

800
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait on a quarterback guy. I'm gonna get

801
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: a Hodgepodge a little stew of quarterbacks showing at the

802
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: end of my draft in the tenth, eleventh, twelfth round

803
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: where I've draft a couple of guys just to see

804
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: who pans out. Derek Carr has definitely got to be

805
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: in that. How what's crazy is how how many rounds

806
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,959
Speaker 1: ahead of Car? Do you think Bordles just thinking about

807
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: too much too much time, so you know it would

808
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: be quite a few, but like relative to the value

809
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: they could easily put up very simple. And that was

810
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: my question, is can you could you count on Derek

811
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: Carter be a QB one this year? I would I

812
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: was gonna be a double digit guy. I would be

813
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: happy to take him in the tenth to fourteenth round

814
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: or whatever, wherever he's falling and how the quarterback board

815
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: goes and run that risk. Christ I did that with

816
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford in a couple of weeks this last year,

817
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: and it's still panned out because stream up somebody else. Yeah,

818
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: that's the thing is that you can take a risk

819
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: on him and you still have the streaming option. I mean,

820
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: Derek Carr Cousins, I'd take Carr car Kirk Cousins is

821
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 1: my mortal enemy. Why why Well, I don't know how.

822
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to get to granular, But okay, I

823
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: appeared on I know it would be weird if I

824
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: was really like that, where I really had that self

825
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: awareness where I didn't want to go down. Now, some

826
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: people might might or might not have known that I

827
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: appeared on Sky Sports on on the Rag Last with

828
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: Loura Woods, one of the one of the brightest minds

829
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: in fantasy football, and uh, they were going to have

830
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: a hit. I was just gonna do a Super Bowl

831
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: preview from Radio Row in San Francisco. Uh, our our

832
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: team would not you know, allow me to go do that.

833
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: I was replaced by Kirk Cousins. He is now my

834
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: mortal enemy. I see, I was yanked by by my

835
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: own team. Sure, and then Kirk Cousin, And of course

836
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: that's a I don't so you're scared for that at all.

837
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: And Robert Griffin, the third or basically the same person

838
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: we are, we are, he's more of a Marvel guy.

839
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,479
Speaker 1: But yeah, and I saw, oh he was. And Kirk

840
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: Cousins was walking down the red carpet of the Madden

841
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: Bull I was gonna just assault him, but like your

842
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: mind and like that's me saying something like that. He'd

843
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: be like, I have no idea who you are. I

844
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: don't know why you're mad at me, but away. But

845
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,479
Speaker 1: he seems like such a nice guy that he would

846
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: probably like like sorry. So Derek, Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins,

847
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: and Blake Bortles, I think they're kind of in that.

848
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: It's a good same group. Maybe Bortles is gonna get

849
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: drafted the highest out of them. Yeah, where does where

850
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: does Bartles goes? Bordles going like eighth round too high. Okay,

851
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: man smirch him. I'm not, but but just I will

852
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: say this, I'm gonna definitely take a fifteenth round flyer

853
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: on Clive Walford. There's no question, Thank you. I wanted

854
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: to get him in real quick because, like I mentioned,

855
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: and people kind of joked, but like his last five

856
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: games he got five target, seven targets, seven targets, three

857
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: and then four. I do remember you giving him some love,

858
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: and he's somebody that I really want to I want

859
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: to look back and watch how he progressed in the

860
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: program because early on, I mean, rookie tight ends never

861
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: do anything. But he was an athletic guy coming out

862
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: of Miami, good pass catcher, really dynamic. So I'm interested

863
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: to go back and watch him and see if he

864
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: might be a sneaky, like you said, fifteenth round flyer.

865
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: He was. He was a great product of the you

866
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: you're not talking about that. Um No. Here's the thing

867
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: too about Clive Walford that I'll say very quickly is

868
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: that you know, if this offense is going to be

869
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 1: as prolific as as at least on paper, they could

870
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: possibly be, there's gonna be some spill over. There's gonna

871
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 1: be some trickle down effect to Clive Walford because again

872
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: you mentioned he's a good athlete, UM, and he's got good,

873
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: solid hands, and it seems like, especially at the back

874
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: end of the season, that Derek Carr did trust him,

875
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: especially the man, especially in the red zone. Especially in

876
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: the red zone. So if they can put up some

877
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: points we're talking about the Raiders team, there could definitely

878
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: be some solid trickle down effect to Clive Walford. Now,

879
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, um, because they put

880
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: their number one corner on uh Maari Cooper, then they

881
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: started to realize, oh we gotta cover Michael Crabt. Walford

882
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: kind of sneak in there. I think there's gonna be

883
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: a lot there's gonna be it's gonna be very hard.

884
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: Roberts too. I think he's a good player. I think

885
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: he made some I took some really nice players and

886
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: dynasty like startup mocked that I'm doing with a bunch

887
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: of people and super deep sleeper. Yeah, he's the guy

888
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna look at for sure. He had

889
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: some pretty big games and look competent as like a

890
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: third receiver effect that helps no one. Aft absolutely also

891
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: a tremendous I mean awesome. Uh downfield threat, no, no question,

892
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: Um all right, Sandyo Chargers man, they struggled this year.

893
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: Uh they really just got ravaged by injuries. But h

894
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: that being said Philip Rivers. Still they're getting a little

895
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: longer the tube. But that's okay. Uh. Danny Woodhead was

896
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: a surprise is uh and then almost Danny Woodhead was

897
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: almost a disappointment, okay, because the buzz had started to

898
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: just really grow around him and people were it was

899
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: a really it was a I'm drinking my grapefruit. I

900
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: p a hipster. I really feel like we in the

901
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: Fantasy Stronghold should take some blame for that guy. I

902
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: feel like we we did a lot to push that.

903
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 1: You know, how about take credit train, you know my credit.

904
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: One of the best podcast moments is you guys just

905
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: just going Google Gaga on good and and then and

906
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: then Gil are wrapping up the convo by saying, I mean,

907
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: obviously all of us here loved Danny Woodhead, and I'm like,

908
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: what are you guys? It was when when it was

909
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 1: during a player, He's just a guy. It was exactly

910
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: it was during his like kind of stretch where they'd

911
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: stopped you and they're really feeding Melvin Gordon, like we

912
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: talked about it, like the three of us in franchise,

913
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: all just like side and there was this moment of

914
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: silence and then just then you just like sent a

915
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: barrage on da poor Danny Woodhead calling him just another player.

916
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: And it's not a jag. Oh my gosh, he's one

917
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: of the top running backs in the game. Okay, already,

918
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you want to go ahead and drift it

919
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: back up, Melvin Gordon. I don't want to drift. I

920
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: don't want to drift either one. I would love I

921
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: would love to drift Danny Woodhead and PPR and in

922
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: regular see that's the misnomer. In regular fantasy, he was

923
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: really good because he was the RP. If he's getting

924
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: you fifty six yards uh rushing and at sixty four

925
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: yards receiving, that's a good day. That's a that's a hundred.

926
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: That's he didn't have hundred scrimmage didn't have too many

927
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: the plenty of us. There's a reason why he was

928
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: number twelve. Uh yeah, it's called injuries, James, So he

929
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: would have stopped it. James, Just listen, you can't talk

930
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: sense in to him about this, because he's into flashy

931
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: guys onbine numbers. He's not into hard working, gritty guys.

932
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: That's not his lunch bail guys. Yeah, you're right, I'm

933
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: just set into the offense. Let's talk. Let's talk Keenan Allen.

934
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen was off to it like a rip rowing start.

935
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: He had a couple of games where he disappeared, but

936
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: he was playing really good ball before his lacerated spleen

937
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: or kidney, I forget kidney. Anyways, he had lacerated kidney.

938
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: He had internal organs that we're bleeding and had to

939
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: get shut down. So coming back for this year, where

940
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: do you guys feel good about taking Keen Allen. He's

941
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a forgotten man. He really is, UM because

942
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 1: again I mean, yes, he he was having a pretty

943
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: nice season, but it was very up and down. UM

944
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: and just you know he got shut down earlier. I

945
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a forgotten guy. I think he's

946
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 1: gonna be He's gonna be a really good candidate UM

947
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: for a tremendous value I think later in draft. I

948
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: really don't see him going before the eighth round. I really,

949
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: I don't see it. You know, I'm the only one

950
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: who is just worried that somehow this charger offense falls

951
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: off a cliff I just mentioned. I don't know. I

952
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: don't know why. I mean, I I worry. I worry

953
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: about Philip rivers, Like I feel like I'm gonna go

954
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: into this year trying to avoid Philip trafts. I just

955
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: have this this weird feeling that it's gonna go wrong

956
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 1: for the charges. I gotta fix the offensive line first

957
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: of all, like you haven't gotten over losing Nick Hardwick.

958
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: And really, and I talked to I alluded to this

959
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: earlier about the whole moving thing is that Philip is

960
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: so adamant about not like they part of the reason

961
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 1: I think that they were going to put their training

962
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: camp in Santa Anna was because, like, look like you

963
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: can still be in South County, you'll sort of be

964
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: in San Diego. Like they're trying to go out of

965
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: their way to not be fully like engulfed in l A.

966
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: And this whole thing is gonna hang over them. Like hopefully,

967
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: I I sincerely hope that San Diego just gets it together.

968
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: They get a stadium done really quick, and they're like, look,

969
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: we're staying for the long haul, and then that would

970
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: help alleviate some of the pressure. But man, this team

971
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: and I was there, I was I was a youngster,

972
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: but I remember the ninety four Rams and that season

973
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: was so awful because they had the year before they

974
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: had been rumored to be the team that moved to Baltimore,

975
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: and then they saved him, but you knew they were

976
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: still gone, and it was so miserable. Nobody went to

977
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: the games. Um, it was awful. I would hang out

978
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: in front of the stadium before each game and people

979
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: be like, hey, you want to ticket, like okay, And

980
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: I just fear that it's going to be the same

981
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: way with San Diego. Really, something that's gonna do. I mean,

982
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: as bad as it was this year, it's gonna be

983
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: even worse next year. If that thing is hanging over

984
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: their head, it's it's it's a great point because it's

985
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: gonna be weird for these guys to play in front

986
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: of half empty stadiums. No, well, it's filled with the

987
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: other team's fans. They're many challenging their fans to come

988
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: to the even when even when they had Marty and

989
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: were Ladinian and Gates was in his prime, and then

990
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: they even then they had difficulty filling out the state.

991
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: Now absolutely did. Note I had see I had season

992
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: tickets in two thousand the stadium was full and it

993
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: was filled with Chargers fans. I'm not saying that it

994
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: wasn't you get a strong presence of other teams because

995
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: unlike a lot of NFL city, San Diego is a

996
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 1: very desirable place to live. So you always have that

997
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: that that out of town. You guys all moved from

998
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: somewhere else. Don't act like I'm saying, but they you're

999
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: always going to have that element of like opposing fans.

1000
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: Just you know how many blackouts they've had now they

1001
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 1: they had when they rebuilt the stadium for the Super

1002
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 1: Bowl in two thousand three, the city Fantasy City automatically

1003
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: bought tickets so there would be no sellouts. So Rivers

1004
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: before everybody and his team was sent to I r

1005
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: with injuries. He had multiple touchdown passes in seven of

1006
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: his first eight games, only three of his final one, two, three, four, five, six,

1007
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: seven eight, only three of his finals. And he got

1008
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: beat to hell. Yeah, well, he had nobody get open,

1009
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: and he had no offensive line and he loves to

1010
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 1: stay in the pocket. Well, he's a statue. He can't

1011
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: he can't do it. Okay, maybe this is you know,

1012
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: obviously we talked about the offensive line. Antonio Gates if

1013
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: he comes back, I don't think he will. He's been

1014
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 1: talking about right, So Okay, he's not there. So I mean,

1015
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: do we believe in Libarius Green to be in They

1016
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: got to resign him, all right? I don't think that

1017
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: Malcolm Floyd's retiring. Um, you know, yeah, it's gonna be

1018
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen's back, But who else is there? Melvin Gordon?

1019
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: Eventually we'll score an NFL touchdown, right, I mean we

1020
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: believe that will happen at some point. Um. I mean

1021
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 1: the thing is, though, like we're talking about all where

1022
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: does he go with the football? I mean, what does

1023
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: he do? This is basically what it was last year.

1024
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: I mean every by the end of the year, all

1025
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 1: these like they even had Stevie Johnson at the beginning

1026
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: of the year. He was done so over for a while. Yeah,

1027
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: I know that sucked, um, But so I think he'll

1028
00:51:55,600 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: have Alan back, He'll have have Johnson back. They'll probably

1029
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: draft a receiver relatively high, and I think there are

1030
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 1: some good solid like flank or slot guys in this draft.

1031
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: I think Gates probably ends up coming back for one more.

1032
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: I think they should resign Green. Personally, I don't know

1033
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: if the I don't know, I don't know their cap

1034
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: situation off the top of my head. But but no,

1035
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they can make some improvements and

1036
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: be a solid I could see them not signing Green

1037
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: and just trying to just hoard that cap space and

1038
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: just trying to address that offensive line because right now,

1039
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: I just don't see Rivers staying healthy. Um, They're gonna

1040
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: be playing in front of you know, half empty stadiums. Um.

1041
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: And you look at the skill position players, Malcolm Floyd gone,

1042
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: Stevie Johnson's whatever's your whatever? Come on, quit be smirching

1043
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: good players. You know, I don't understand Steven Johnson is

1044
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: just a whatever's player? And what's what season did he was?

1045
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: He just how long ago was his breakout season? It

1046
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: was like two or three years ago? Only when he

1047
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: went like a have a hundred and seven to ten

1048
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: touchdowns three years in a row. If you haven't broken

1049
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: out in the last two years, and just somebody that

1050
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: just comes in and does their job and puts up numbers.

1051
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: You're just not relevant into James. He's just he's just

1052
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: He's an okay, receiver, that's it. He's whatever's That's what

1053
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: I said, whatever, okay, the way I was gonna make it.

1054
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: What is the love affair with Stevie Johnson and Danny Would?

1055
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: I just don't get it. Stevin Johnson is a very

1056
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: good player. Yeah what Why don't you like guys who

1057
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: put in Fantasy points? What is your aversion? Oh? Y,

1058
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: that's right, I don't get it. Alright, great? Um, what

1059
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: about Melvin Gordon next year? Though? Like, where are you

1060
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: taking Melvin? I'm not. I think Melvin Gordon's gonna hang

1061
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: around until like the eighth round. He's gonna He's gonna

1062
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: hang on the board for am and I think he'll

1063
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: be better. He can't be worse. Well, I mean he

1064
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: could be, but you don't want that. He'll be better,

1065
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: and you know he'll be a guy. You're not gonna

1066
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: play him every single week, but he'll he'll give you

1067
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: the sent value. I don't think I'm away rafter the

1068
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: Charger next year. I mean, I'm going through this list here.

1069
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: I don't see myself drafting any of these guys. I'm

1070
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: interested in Alan. I'm very interested in definitely what round

1071
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: he was like a third or fourth round pick this year.

1072
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, I don't see any

1073
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: reason that he should not be again this year. I

1074
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: would probably hope to snag him in like five or

1075
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: six if that perception is, you know, the injuries and like, oh,

1076
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: Chargers offense, I would I would hope to wait on

1077
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: him there. But he was great. I mean, he's not

1078
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: gonna he won't go in the first four rounds, There's

1079
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: no way. I mean, probably not. But I'm saying I

1080
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: won't be surprised if he ends up like fulfilling that

1081
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: kind of value. We'll see where. We'll see where the

1082
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: offseason narratives and workouts in best shape of his life

1083
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: and that stuff comes through you know, this summer. But I,

1084
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: like Allen, I would be surprised if the Charger goes

1085
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: off the board before like the seventh round. Agree, I think,

1086
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: and I think it'll be Keenan Allen. I think, oh,

1087
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: he know he will be the first Charger drafted. And

1088
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: I think he goes in round seven. I do I

1089
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 1: think he goes round seven or eight. I just don't.

1090
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: There's gonna be too many question marks around this team,

1091
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: and I think people are going to stay away. I know,

1092
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: I am. I'm not drafting a charge d I'm looking

1093
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: and Keenan Allen went to I love Keenan Allen, but

1094
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: godly man, that that whole situation just scares me. Wait, wait,

1095
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: this is this is one of the it's it's fun

1096
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: to talk with this stuff now too, but it'll be

1097
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,959
Speaker 1: to see draft free agency once they get into camp

1098
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: and stuff. That's true. They could scoop up like Jerry

1099
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: Evans just got cut. They could get somebody else in

1100
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: free agency, like if they rebuff that line, they get

1101
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: a dynamic playmaker from the draft. All of a sudden,

1102
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: we're drinking that kool aid. The training camps true filling up.

1103
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: Training camp stands are filling up the previous hour of

1104
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: this podcast. I want to get people home and to

1105
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: tell them to keep listening to the bottoms, which is

1106
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. Yeah, exactly, all right, So that's

1107
00:55:53,560 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: it for the West. Stap it and get out of here,

1108
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: all right, Daily dap time. Uh we who who's ready?

1109
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: There's it's always a question of who's alright. Marcus Grant

1110
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: give me a daily death. A couple of real quick one. First,

1111
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 1: for the Twitter account, bat labels Batman sixties six labels.

1112
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: They go through and they have screenshots of all the

1113
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: different uh labeling you see from the old Batman TV series.

1114
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 1: So the bat Ladder with you know, with the ladder

1115
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: hanging from a helicopter and a sign that's his bat ladder,

1116
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: and the batwax solvent which has uh, you know, it

1117
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: looks like the Joker with a can that says bat

1118
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: Wax Solved. It's amazing how many things they labeled and

1119
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: how many things have the word bat in them from

1120
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: from that show. So that was a fun, fun little thing.

1121
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: I came across this pointing. But my other DAP is

1122
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: I'm Depp in the Golden State Warriors. Man. I got

1123
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: to go home last week. It was in Vali, which,

1124
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: by the way, the biggest celebrity now Valet is C. J.

1125
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: Anderson after his flinching touchdown. But um, I hadn't been

1126
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: to a Warrior's game, probably since I was in high school,

1127
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: and it's it's weird to go there now. And you

1128
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 1: would go when I would go as a kid, you

1129
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: would and you always have fun, and you hope that

1130
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: maybe they would win. Now you go and there's the

1131
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: expectation that they will win, and that's bizarre. It's weird that,

1132
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: you know, you that the pre eminent basketball player in

1133
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: the world calls the Bay Area home, you know, and uh,

1134
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: you go, and and it was. It was a good game.

1135
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: It was actually a very competitive, entertaining game. They played

1136
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: the Rockets that night, and you know, it's it's funny

1137
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: to watch because when Steph misses shots, there's like this

1138
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: weird quiet, like that's that's not supposed to happen. But

1139
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: it was a lot of fun. You know, I'm obviously

1140
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,919
Speaker 1: excited to see this team playing well, but I'm I'm

1141
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: happy for all the long suffering Warriors fans and now

1142
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: they finally get to enjoy some really good bad man.

1143
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: When I was and I are basically the same person.

1144
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: Now you're not. Well, we both we both got crying

1145
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: Jordans this week. I've actually been crying Jordan's three times

1146
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: in less than two weeks. I need to like review

1147
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: my entire operation. This is great, It's tremendous. Uh No,

1148
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember being in the Bay Area for

1149
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: those Jason Richardson and Donald Foyle days. Uh and and

1150
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: even then the fans would still come. Yeah. I mean

1151
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: they've always shown up. They've always they've always supported the team.

1152
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: They just you know, the best thing we ever had

1153
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: the root for was being the team that one wanted

1154
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: to play in the first round. Right, That was it?

1155
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: There you go, alright, Alex Gallaher, what's up? Got two DAPs?

1156
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: First depth to Matt Harmon as who mentioned this is

1157
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: his last last week right now because we do a

1158
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: seven month tour of duties. Uh for people starting out

1159
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: at the NFL. It's not the greatest. But he's had

1160
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,439
Speaker 1: a killer seven months here and he'll still be hanging

1161
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: out and probably appearing on the podcast from time to time.

1162
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: But it would be Daily DAP to Harmon for for

1163
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: killer work this season. And then second one is Daily

1164
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: DAP to the people that have like rated us on iTunes.

1165
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: There have been some good, some bad. Somebody was like,

1166
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: what even is a DAP? I don't want to listen

1167
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: to that? Well, like, hey, then stop the podcast. The

1168
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: last five minutes we just saved time. But for those

1169
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: of you that like to hear what else we're consuming

1170
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: in the world and stuff but you know this is

1171
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: what we're doing, and it encourage more of you to

1172
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: do that because we can look at those. If there's

1173
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: something you like about the show, something you don't put

1174
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: your voice out there on iTunes, let us know on Twitter.

1175
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: It's the only way we can make the podcast better

1176
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: for you, guys. So adapts to all the people that

1177
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: have chimed in on what they've liked and disliked about

1178
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: the pod, will hope to make it better in your

1179
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: two what else is they? What else do they not? Like?

1180
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: Somebody was like I tapped out when guy talked about poetry,

1181
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: which was Harmon mentioned it one time. Welcome trying to

1182
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: culture you. Uh. Somebody ripped Fabiano for his fandom, but like,

1183
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: I can't listen to a podcast where a guy likes

1184
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: the Lakers, the Cowboys, and the Yankees. Some guys have

1185
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: said they say they like our chemistry. Somebody told you

1186
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: to stop saying bro so many times once, so many times.

1187
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: I love saying bro. I know it's not gonna stop. Well, like,

1188
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: that's not something we can change. But that's there's all

1189
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: sorts of stuff. There's some good, some bad. We also

1190
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: say that Fabiano's fandom should include the Celtics, not the Lakers.

1191
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: To have all the hated teams, because the Lakers are

1192
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 1: beloved by everybody. No, we're not not now because they're

1193
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: not good. That is inaccurate. What do you have, like

1194
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: fifteen more to go? Okay, okay, now right, Matt Harmon,

1195
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: what's up? Yeah, I'm actually prepared this time. But let's

1196
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: sell him go last, because it's gonna be his this

1197
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: Swanson Swan Swan song. Usually it's also secretly just inserting

1198
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: himself before me. But I wanted, no, I appreciate you.

1199
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: I wanted you to headline the DAP section. You just go,

1200
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: adam right, not have to curtain jerk for guys like

1201
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: us when you're clearly better than um. Just go already.

1202
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: City of San Francisco for the Super Bowl, it was.

1203
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: It was a well done event. Not so much for

1204
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: the people who run the bar at the Hilton and

1205
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: Union Square because they kept kicking us out of the lobby.

1206
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: It's a lobby. You can't kick us out of there.

1207
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: Your bar can shut down, but you can't kick us

1208
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: out of the lobby. Uh. Adapt to spring training and

1209
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: March Madness coming up. My favorite favorite non NFL time

1210
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: or the year. I gotta say that because I'll get

1211
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: mad if I don't. But like the red between the lines, UH,

1212
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: spring training Marchman is coming up. Doubts to that adapts

1213
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: to Brian Danielson, one of my favorite professional wrestlers of

1214
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: all time, who had to retire this week because the concussions.

1215
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: The one cool uh, one of my coolest sports moments

1216
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: was being at WrestleMania thirty, being in the fifth row

1217
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: thanks to UH the Barnyard Dog by Garry Barnet and

1218
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: D'Angelo Williams, and UH being able to witness his triumphant

1219
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: for watching this guy through Ring of Honor and everything

1220
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: and finally reaching the ultimate of his profession is kind

1221
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: of a cool thing. Uh. Adapts to the fans in

1222
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 1: San Francisco. I was working on the NFL Now Live

1223
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl fit to whatever the name of

1224
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,919
Speaker 1: the show was, and every once in a while you'd

1225
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 1: get people walking by the set and they see me

1226
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 1: standing there doing nothing. Uh per usual. Oh no, they

1227
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: would yell that helps no one. But the overwhelming majority

1228
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: of those p Bowl we're yelling that a lot. I

1229
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: I didn't realize, So dabs to all of you, and

1230
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: UH Finally, of course, dabs to Matt Harman, who, as

1231
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: Alex mentioned, has to do the seven five. I had

1232
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: to do the seven five. I know it's not a

1233
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: fun three times. Yeah, I did it, and um it

1234
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: worked out. But I thought that what you contributed here,

1235
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: uh to NFL Fantasy Live, to NFL Fantasy in general,

1236
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: really helped take us to another level. You're bringing in

1237
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: a new group of fans and brought a fresh perspective

1238
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: that Charlie's fans Charlie's fans as well. So it was

1239
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: it's really appreciated and we look forward to seeing you

1240
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: back in five months. It can't come soon enough, So

1241
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: keep doing what you do, have a lot of fun,

1242
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: and uh we'll see it soon. I'll continue the love

1243
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: fest daily daft to Reception Perception, which I thought was

1244
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: always a tremendous read, and uh, it's just unbelievable the

1245
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: amount of work that goes into that, honestly, truly, like

1246
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: I don't have time for that. It's like, that's craziness.

1247
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: You have a child. I only even if I had,

1248
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: even if I was single, I'm am I gonna put

1249
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: in that work. I don't know, uh man, but yeah,

1250
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: it's a. It's tremendous the amount of work that you

1251
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: put into that. So that's awesome. Man. Um the Uh.

1252
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: I have another one. That's the Taiwanese animators. Uh. They

1253
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: have done an awesome job covering the NFL. Uh No,

1254
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: they're they're super Bowl. I don't know why they are.

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Speaker 1: They are obsessed with nut shots. They're they absolutely love it.

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Speaker 1: And in their super Bowl preview video, I was dying

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Speaker 1: on my computer. I don't know what. Randomly, randomly there's

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Speaker 1: Optimus Prime there, there's there's Batman dabbing for some reason. No.

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Speaker 1: C J. Anderson was bowling out nut shots. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand what was going on. It's awesome though,

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Speaker 1: it is awesome. Uh. Taiwanese animators on YouTube if you

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Speaker 1: want to go down an nice little black hole and

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Speaker 1: watch a few of their videos. But they not only

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Speaker 1: do they handle sports, uh, they also handled the culture.

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Speaker 1: Quick aside, Well, you mentioned black holes and may think something.

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Speaker 1: Did anybody else see on Twitter this morning that apparently

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Speaker 1: two massive black holes merged into in space. The spacetime

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Speaker 1: continuum is is ripping. So go check out the time

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Speaker 1: when he's animated. Uh. What they had? They had their

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Speaker 1: take on the new allegations that Sean P. Diddey Combs,

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Speaker 1: I guess hired somebody or something to to to shoot

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Speaker 1: Tupac or something. Anyways, that's really funny. They've so they've

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Speaker 1: got some news news articles and uh and also some

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Speaker 1: sports takes. But it is really funny. If you haven't

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Speaker 1: seen him, go check them out Taiwan and these animators

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. All right, Matt harm On, the floor is

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Speaker 1: yours pal. Well, for one, I want to thank you

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Speaker 1: guys for being way too nice to me, uh today

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Speaker 1: and really all year. It was. It was a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. It was we can change that next time around.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, no, so thanks again, that was great and

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01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: I look forward to coming back here too. But yeah,

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01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: you mentioned reception perception. It will be in full force

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Speaker 1: this offseason while I'm you know, tell us where we

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01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: can find it. You can. You can follow me on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Matt Harmon Underscore b y B. I'll be

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01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: doing a weekly column for The Washington Post while I'm

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01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: away from here, and I'll also be putting a bunch

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Speaker 1: of stuff on my blog and hopefully finally putting out

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Speaker 1: that book that I wanted to do last offseason. But you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you guys had to make me move out of

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01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: here for this freaking job. But so, yeah, I know

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Speaker 1: it looks the book about reception, perception, how what how

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Speaker 1: things went down in two thousand and fifteen. Got it

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Speaker 1: pretty much just everybody's scores. Okay there, Yeah, it'd be great.

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Speaker 1: And I got a lot of stuff on draft prospects

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Speaker 1: coming out, so tune in for that. My daily death

1298
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 1: goes to um old Spice hair paste. Now it's an

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01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: he's pulling a Dan Hans is here. Well now listen, now, listen.

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Speaker 1: As you might know, I am a little bit snobby

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Speaker 1: about some things. Uh particularly yeah, I know, breaking news

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Speaker 1: sitting here in a Paisley like shirt and uh yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm a little snobby about but so normally, like I

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Speaker 1: I always try to go for like higher end hair product. Yeah,

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01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: so I'm like going through the grocery store, I think

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Speaker 1: it was last week and met Ralph's and they didn't

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Speaker 1: have like anything I normally used, but I was out

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Speaker 1: of hair gel. So I was like, oh god, I

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01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: was like, I'll just grab this crap from Old Spice.

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Speaker 1: Like I was like, I'm sure, I'll just use it

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Speaker 1: once and then I'll go to a real store and

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Speaker 1: get some real stuff. I put it in. It has

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Speaker 1: by far been my favorite hair based like like normally

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Speaker 1: I use gel. This is a past I guess I'm

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Speaker 1: supposed to be different. Uh, it's been by far my favorite.

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Speaker 1: I think it looks good. It doesn't get her hair

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Speaker 1: does look magnificent this whole. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: a podcast, studio lighting or whatever, but for one, for one,

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Speaker 1: thank you, um, but no, I think like all last

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Speaker 1: week when you guys were gone, this was my first

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Speaker 1: week with it, and I was like consistently cranking it

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Speaker 1: out of the park with hairded So honestly, I mean

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Speaker 1: old spice. Listen, this hairpaste quality stuff. And I now

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Speaker 1: use old spice hairpaste, old spice and old spice body washed.

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Speaker 1: So old spice listening. Whenever you want to sponsor this podcast,

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Speaker 1: you have a fan right here. Da goes out to

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Speaker 1: their hairpaste. Tremendous product. I like it. By the way,

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Speaker 1: there is a huge difference between paste and jell. I

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Speaker 1: could see a high school Matt Harmon so basically last

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Speaker 1: year dipping into a giant blue tub of of hair

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Speaker 1: gel and uh and trying to pass it off. Well,

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Speaker 1: the problem with jel is, like you get you get

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Speaker 1: a good hold, which is important especially when it's windy.

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Speaker 1: But like you also like because I have a very

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Speaker 1: particular process where there's a needs to be a good

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Speaker 1: distance between putting the gel in and then combing again

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Speaker 1: and putting the hairspray in. I'm sorry, this isn't something

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01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 1: and if you don't have enough time between that, this,

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Speaker 1: this is why we're getting uh right comment right, please,

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Speaker 1: let's hair talk, jackass with the hair talk alright, alright,

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01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: should get out of here, as let's get out of here,

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01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: alright for Matt Harmon, MGM, I got Marcus Grant, Adam Rank,

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01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us and Alex Gelhard the whisket from Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: I'm James Go. We are out of here and see you.

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Speaker 1: What's up everybody? DJ Bucky here with Move the Sticks Bucky.

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01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,759
Speaker 1: Tell everybody what's on the latest Move to six episode

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Speaker 1: The five lessons we learned from the Denver Broncos in

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Speaker 1: terms of how the build a championship team. Also, what

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Speaker 1: are the deepest positions in the draft look down the

1350
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 1: middle of defensive tackles, like, yeah, we've got you covered.

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01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 1: As we marched towards the NFL Draft, Moved the sticks.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on iTunes, NFL dot com, Slash Podcast,

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01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: as well as you too,