1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Aaron Manke's Cabinet of Curiosities, a production of 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and Grimm and Mild. Our world is full of 3 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: the unexplainable, and if history is an open book, all 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: of these amazing tales are right there on display, just 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: waiting for us to explore. Welcome to the Cabinet of Curiosities. 6 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: On a cold afternoon in February of eighteen seventy two, 7 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: a middle aged woman walked into a photographer's studio in Boston. 8 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: She was wearing the traditional morning clothes of a widow, 9 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: a black dress and bonnet and a black veil over 10 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: her face. Even though it had been almost seven years 11 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: since her husband passed away, the woman had experienced a 12 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: shocking amount of grief in the past couple decades. Along 13 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: with her husband, she had lost three sons and three 14 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: of her brothers. But in her darkest days, she found 15 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: comfort in the belief that the dead aren't really gone, 16 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 1: They're just in a different place, and that was why 17 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: she had traveled all the way to Boston to visit 18 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: this particular photo studio. The shop's owner, William Mumler, had 19 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: made a name for himself as a spirit photographer, someone 20 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: who could capture apparitions of the dead with his camera. 21 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: He had discovered his talent a decade prior when he 22 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: took a self portrait and once it had developed, saw 23 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: the ghostly figure of his late cousin in the back 24 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: of the frame, standing right behind him. Mumler had opened 25 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: a photography business to share his spiritual gift with other 26 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: grieving families, or to take advantage of them, depending on 27 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: who you asked. Plenty of people at the time were 28 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: convinced that Mumler was a fraud and the supposed ghosts 29 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: in the photos were fake. The woman who walked into 30 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: his shop that afternoon was a true believer. She'd been 31 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: going to seances for years, and she was convinced that 32 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: she'd spoken to the dead, so why couldn't she see 33 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: them as well. The woman shook Mumler's hand and introduced 34 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: herself as Missus Tyndall. She sat down in the chair 35 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: in front of the camera and waited while he set 36 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: up his equipment. When the camera was ready, Missus Tyndall 37 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: lifted her veil and sat perfectly still. When Mummler snapped 38 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: the shutter, nothing unusual seemed to happen. She didn't feel 39 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: any sort of supernatural presence or see any flashes of 40 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: lights in the corner of her eye. As she left 41 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: the studio, she couldn't be sure that it had worked 42 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: at all, but a few days later she came back 43 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: to pick up the photoprint, hoping for the best. Bumbler 44 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: sorted through a pile of envelopes until he found the 45 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: one that had her name on it, and when she 46 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: opened it and pulled out the photo inside, she gasped. 47 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: In the photo, there was a pale figure standing behind 48 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: Missus Tyndall, hands on her shoulders. It was faint, but 49 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: if she looked closely, she could make out the angular 50 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: nose and close cropped beard of her husband. Another customer 51 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: who was in the shop at the time, leaned over 52 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: Missus Tyndall's shoulder to take a peek at the photo. 53 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: She remarked that the figure standing behind her looked just 54 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: like Abraham Lincoln. Missus Tyndall replied that it did because 55 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: it was Abraham Lincoln. The truth was, the woman's name 56 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: wasn't actually Missus Tyndall. She was Mary Todd Lincoln, the 57 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 1: former first Lady of the United States. She had given 58 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: the photographer a fake name to protect her privacy, and 59 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: even though Mumbler hadn't figured out her real identity, the 60 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: apparition in the photo came out looking exactly like her 61 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: famous husband, who had been assassinated at Ford's Theater seven 62 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: years earlier. To some, including Missus Lincoln, this was proof 63 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: that Mummler was no fraud and his photos really did 64 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: capture the spirits of the dead. Of course, many skeptics 65 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: still agree, but more than one one hundred and fifty 66 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: years later, while experts believe that his photos were manipulated, 67 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: there is still no consensus on how he created them 68 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: in the first place, and unless Mummler's ghost reappears to 69 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: explain his bag of tricks, will likely never know the truth. 70 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: The Crusades have undergone a bit of a pr crisis 71 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: in recent years. Whereas they used to be looked upon 72 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: as a series of heroic quests undertaken by brave knights, 73 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: in the modern day, they are seen as violent wars 74 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: over a religion that preaches peace. There were eight Crusades 75 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: in total, and most of them were less than successful, 76 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: But of all of them, the Fourth Crusade was by 77 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: far the biggest disaster. It began in the year eleven 78 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: ninety eight, when Pope Innocent the Third called for a 79 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: new crusade on Jerusalem. The previous crusade, which was the 80 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: most famous one with Richard the Lionheart, had ended with 81 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: many Christian territorial conquests, including Cyprus and much of the 82 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: Israeli coast, but the Muslims still controlled the all important 83 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: city of Jerusalem, where Christians believe Jesus died and was 84 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: resurrected enter Enrico Dandolo, the ruler of Venice. Paintings of 85 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: Enrico show him with an angry expression on his face, 86 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: a sharp beak like nose, and a strange, pointed red hat. 87 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: The guy looked just like a villain, and he was 88 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: prepared to act like one as well. As crusaders gathered 89 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: and prepared for the journey to the Holy Land, he 90 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: offered to finance their journey with a fleet of warships, 91 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: but they had to do something for him first. He 92 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: wanted them to sail across the Adriatic Sea to the 93 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: city of Zara, which was directly east from Venice in 94 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: modern day Croatia. The city had recently allied itself with 95 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: Hungary and Enrico wanted the Crusaders to conquer it and 96 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: bring it under Veneti rule. Pope Innocent was completely against this, 97 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: as this was a Christian city. He threatened to excommunicate 98 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: Venice and the Crusaders if they went through with this plan. 99 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: Some of the Crusaders abandoned their mission, but enough, we're 100 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: willing to go through with the attack. Enrico's money and 101 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: ships were just too tempting to pass up. When they arrived, 102 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: they sacked the city and Venice was excommunicated, but the 103 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: Pope eventually forgave the Crusaders because you know, he needed 104 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: to keep them crusading. They traveled around Greece headed for Jerusalem, 105 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: but once again Enrico proved to have ulterior motives. Years before, 106 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: he had been ousted from an advisory position in the 107 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: Byzantine courts at Constantinople. This was a massive, well fortified 108 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: city that today we call Istanbul. It's strategically important too, 109 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: as it serves as a gateway between the Black Sea 110 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: and the Mediterranean. Enrico wanted the Crusaders to attack Constantinople 111 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: and place a new emperor on its throne, giving him 112 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: control of the Byzantine Empire. The empire spanned all of 113 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: Greece and Turkey, and this time he claimed that it 114 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: was for religious reasons, maybe with giant air quotes there. 115 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: The Byzantines had split from the Catholic Church years prior, 116 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: forming their own Eastern Orthodox Church in an event known 117 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: as the Great Schism, and Rico's argument was that they 118 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: could bring the Byzantines back into the Catholic fold and 119 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: save them from heresy, and a plan started out okay 120 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: for him. When the Crusaders first surrounded the city, they 121 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: were able to force the surrender of the current emperor 122 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: and put in Rico's puppet on the throne. But as 123 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: you can imagine, this didn't go over very well with 124 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: the locals. In their mind, an army from a foreign 125 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: land two peninsulas over had arrived and forced a new 126 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: leader and a new church on them, and they were 127 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: not having it. And so the people rebelled under the 128 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: leadership and quickly executed in Rico's puppet emperor. But the 129 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: Crusaders simply couldn't admit their mistakes and head for Jurierusalem. 130 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: One of the major issues with any crusade was that 131 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: it was difficult to keep such a large army well 132 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: supplied in a foreign land. The Crusaders were now almost 133 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 1: out of food, and their ships needed repairs before sailing again, 134 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: and so they made the most Unchristian decision possible. They 135 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: decided to attack. On the morning of April ninth, in 136 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: the year twelve oh four, tens of thousands of Crusaders 137 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: climbed over the walls and battered down the gates of Constantinople. 138 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: Once inside, they murdered and assaulted the citizens they stole 139 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: from businesses and churches alike. It was a crusade that 140 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: had led to Christians killing Christians. But of course Enrico 141 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: now had what he wanted. Venice controlled trade from Italy 142 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: to Turkey, and a new emperor was installed on the throne, 143 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: and the Crusaders split up the lands amongst themselves. However, 144 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: the fractured nature of this arrangement meant that the Byzantines 145 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: were still able to regroup and retake Constantinople a few 146 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: decades later, in twelve sixty one. Not that's en Rico 147 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: live to see it, mind you, he died just a 148 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: year after the crusade in twelve oh five. It's a 149 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: tale as old as time. A rich guy with a 150 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: bit of power, one who only cares about himself, mind you, 151 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: puts on the costume of religion as a tool to 152 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: fool the masses and then steals whatever he wants, and ultimately, 153 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: like so many other dictators throughout history, all of Enrico's 154 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: works were eventually undone. I hope you've enjoyed today's guided 155 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: tour of the Cabinet of Curiosities. Subscribe for free on 156 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or learn more about the show by visiting 157 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: Curiosities podcast dot com. The show was created by me 158 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: Aaron Mankey in partnership with how Stuff Works. 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