WEBVTT - Introducing - Killer Story | 1. A Rose for Mom

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, there is Steve Fishman from Orbit Media. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to introduce today's featured episode. It's the pilot of our

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<v Speaker 1>new true crime thriller, Killer Story. It's a series about

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<v Speaker 1>a teenager with dreams, a murder that no one knew

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<v Speaker 1>was a murder, and a reporter with a hidden past

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<v Speaker 1>that drives her to pursue this hopeless story for years.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to love the reporter, brazen, cunning when she

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<v Speaker 1>has to be, and always endlessly relentless. Oh and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a love story in the middle of this podcast too.

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<v Speaker 1>the Binge dot com enjoy. It's just after dawn in

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<v Speaker 1>late September nineteen eighty seven and Tom Percival is about

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<v Speaker 1>half an hour by car from Las Vegas. He's just

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<v Speaker 1>launched his boat into the Colorado River. His wife is

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<v Speaker 1>with him. They've planned a day with the kids playing

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<v Speaker 1>in the river's clean, clear water.

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<v Speaker 2>We were probably that ten twelve minutes into the water.

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<v Speaker 1>As they head across the water, the two watch out

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<v Speaker 1>for debris and their path.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's when I see it. It's about seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>feet away, seventy five eighty feet something like that. Dcolder

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<v Speaker 2>was a log just looked like it was barely floating underwater,

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<v Speaker 2>just barely breaking the surface.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom's not convinced, so he steers the boat closer. As

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<v Speaker 1>he approaches, time seems to stand still.

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<v Speaker 2>I remembered everything. I mean, I could probably even tell

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<v Speaker 2>you how many ripples were in the water at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom sees something unusual. He can't tell what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Looked like a beautiful mannequin. So I took the oar

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of pushed on her, and she went about

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<v Speaker 2>six inches under water and then floated back to the surface.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm going, no, it it was a girl. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to hurt her skin. I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>touch right, I didn't want to touch her, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was only just far away from her six eight inches.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember looking at her hair, beautiful hair floating in

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<v Speaker 2>the water, just floating out like a like a like

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<v Speaker 2>a rainbow, kind of like it's beautiful. And she did

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<v Speaker 2>have this like a mossy green tent all over the

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<v Speaker 2>skin that I could see. And that's when I noticed

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<v Speaker 2>a tear drop right in the corner of her eye.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a bloody tear. I had not lost it

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<v Speaker 2>right there. I've said, who would do this to this

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<v Speaker 2>poor girl?

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<v Speaker 1>The girl's name was Sabrina Kid, but no one knew that.

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<v Speaker 1>They won't know that for years. Nobody will know that

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<v Speaker 1>Sabrina is dead, and still wouldn't know if not for

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<v Speaker 1>the preternatural drive. I'm a total stranger, a stranger who

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<v Speaker 1>decided for her own reasons to find out what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to Sabrina. This is a story of lies, cons and

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<v Speaker 1>cover ups.

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<v Speaker 3>He said she never came home. That motherfucker's line.

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<v Speaker 1>And if a woman compelled to get justice for someone

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<v Speaker 1>she's never met.

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<v Speaker 4>No one ever did tell me anything. I did it

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<v Speaker 4>because I wanted to, because I was telling the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a story of yearning for better endings, because I.

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<v Speaker 5>Just want someone to love me, someone to care about

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<v Speaker 5>me unconditionally.

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<v Speaker 6>Arose for Mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Head west from the Colorado River and you'll most likely

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<v Speaker 1>run into Las Vegas, known across America as Sin City.

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<v Speaker 1>That's its attract Las Vegas is a place to do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want. People float into Vegas to shake off

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<v Speaker 1>their work today selves. They hit the Vegas Strip, a

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<v Speaker 1>row of casinos with high stepping showgirls and flashing neon

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<v Speaker 1>lights so bright you can see the miles into the

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<v Speaker 1>Mojave Desert. Viva Las Vegas. A place where adults gamble

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<v Speaker 1>on changing their stories. What Sin City is not is

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<v Speaker 1>a place for a beautiful, naive teenager. So why in

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<v Speaker 1>the late spring of nineteen eighty seven did seventeen year

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<v Speaker 1>old Sabrina Kid moved to Vegas alone. The answers begin

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<v Speaker 1>with her mother, don't they always. It's the nineteen eighties

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<v Speaker 1>and Sabrina is a child living with her mom, Bobby

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<v Speaker 1>Sue in Texas.

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<v Speaker 5>She worshiped her mom.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Dewana, Sabrina's first cousin.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember when I would go over and I would

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<v Speaker 5>spend the weekend. Were at my aunt Bobby's, and Sabrina

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<v Speaker 5>and I would we would go walk the Strip mall.

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<v Speaker 1>Sabrina was probably eight or nine at the time. At

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<v Speaker 1>the strip mall, they drifted past store windows, peering in

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<v Speaker 1>until Sabrina found what she wanted, always the same thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Then her pride deal was always to stop and get

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<v Speaker 5>her mom a rose.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I picture a young girl walking with a

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<v Speaker 1>single rose in her hand. She holds it in front

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<v Speaker 1>of her like a candle. I imagine it's red. She's

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<v Speaker 1>moving with purpose, eager to get home to Mom with

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<v Speaker 1>her special gifts. But Mom wasn't always there, not emotionally

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<v Speaker 1>at least. Mom was beautiful herself, a playboy model at

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<v Speaker 1>one point, according to Dowana, and men flocked. And when

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<v Speaker 1>a man came into Bobby Sue's life, well that's when

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<v Speaker 1>Mom's focus changed and Sabrina was out of the picture.

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<v Speaker 5>She spoiled Sabrina and gave her just about whatever she wanted,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean material things she didn't do without. But my

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<v Speaker 5>mom was always gone. So you know, as long as

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<v Speaker 5>Sabrina got in the way of her boyfriends or got

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<v Speaker 5>in the way of anything, then you know, she just

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<v Speaker 5>shoved her off onto people.

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<v Speaker 1>At seventeen, Sabrina moved in with Dewana, whose family had

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<v Speaker 1>migrated from Texas to Vegas. They shared an apartment for

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<v Speaker 1>a time.

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<v Speaker 5>She was there in the one bed, and I was

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<v Speaker 5>in the other bed and I asked her, I said,

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<v Speaker 5>what do you want? And she goes, I just want

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<v Speaker 5>someone to love me, someone to care about me unconditionally

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<v Speaker 5>and not judge me.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you remember saying anything to that?

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<v Speaker 5>I told her, you know, I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Sabrina wasn't particularly bold or assertive. She didn't strike people

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<v Speaker 1>as driven. She was running from not too but she

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<v Speaker 1>was a good friend, the kind everyone values. This is

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<v Speaker 1>her friend Jennifer.

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<v Speaker 3>She was just a really nice, good hearted person, and

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<v Speaker 3>she was very trusting, and she was a good friend.

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<v Speaker 3>And the big standout for me is that she was

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<v Speaker 3>just just really kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Sabrina did have moments of conflict, and not just with

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<v Speaker 1>her mother. A few weeks after she moved in with

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<v Speaker 1>her cousin do Wana, they had a falling out. Do

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<v Speaker 1>Wanna didn't approve of a guy Sabrina was seeing so

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<v Speaker 1>much for unconditional love. The boyfriend was soon gone and

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<v Speaker 1>Sabrina was on her own again, hunting for a job

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<v Speaker 1>and a home where she felt welcome. I imagine her

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<v Speaker 1>rippling with anxiety, and yeah, I find that heartbreaking. Seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>and on your own and just wanting to be loved.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she met Jim and life seemed to get better.

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<v Speaker 1>They met at a party.

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<v Speaker 7>As as I saw her, I was like, Wow, she's

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<v Speaker 7>a kiddie, and so obviously I.

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<v Speaker 8>Started to strike up the conversation and we just hit

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<v Speaker 8>it off.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Jim Bixel. Jim was a good looking Vegas native.

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<v Speaker 1>He sported a moment when it was the going fashion

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<v Speaker 1>and usually wore a leather motorcycle jacket.

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<v Speaker 7>She didn't get into detail with me, but just the

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<v Speaker 7>little things that she did tell me.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, she did not have a great childhood.

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<v Speaker 7>So one of my goals was just for me to

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<v Speaker 7>make sure she had a great time whenever we were together.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of those great times involved Jim's motorcycle.

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<v Speaker 7>I bought a Kawasaki Ninja six hundred. The cross Rocket

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<v Speaker 7>is what we called it. On the weekends, we'd meet

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<v Speaker 7>at the Old Wet and Wild Water Park on Las

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<v Speaker 7>Vegas Boulevard on the strip, right next to Sarah Hotel,

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<v Speaker 7>and then at midnight we would all take off and

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<v Speaker 7>we do really fast long rides.

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<v Speaker 8>Somewhere. We went up to Mount Charleston.

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<v Speaker 1>Mount Charleston is over two miles high.

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<v Speaker 7>We came down that canyon and we were doing one

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<v Speaker 7>hundred and thirty five hundred and forty miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 7>She was definitely pulled it on for dear life. She

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<v Speaker 7>would love going fast. She would say, you know, right

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<v Speaker 7>on the bike really makes me feel free.

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<v Speaker 1>In Las Vegas, friends remember Sabrina as a blonde, though

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen early photos, and in them she's a brunette

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<v Speaker 1>with thick, gentle waves of hair. She has hazel eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Her skin is almost as pale as her shining teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>In most of the photos, she's smiling, though it strikes

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<v Speaker 1>me as the smile you put on for the camera,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking one thing, showing another. To me, Sabrina looks almost

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<v Speaker 1>middle aged in these photos. In one she actually wears pearls.

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<v Speaker 1>She looks ready for a job as a bank teller

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<v Speaker 1>in Vegas. Sabrina seems to shake off the person she

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<v Speaker 1>was for one thing. She lightens her hair and she

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<v Speaker 1>crafts a signature hairstyle, short on one side, long on

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<v Speaker 1>the other, and sometimes she manages to feel free. Jim

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<v Speaker 1>introduces Sabrina to his friends. One a childhood friend lives

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<v Speaker 1>with his girlfriend at his father's house. Turns out that

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<v Speaker 1>his father has an extra bedroom to rent and Sabrina

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<v Speaker 1>jumps at the chance.

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<v Speaker 8>So Sabrina liked that idea, said yeah, I'll do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sabrina hasn't had a steady address in the six months

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<v Speaker 1>she's been in Vegas, and now that problem seems solved.

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<v Speaker 1>Life seems to be getting better and better for Sabrina.

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<v Speaker 1>A dependable living situation, new friends, a boyfriend who makes

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<v Speaker 1>her feel free, and she's recently interviewed for a job

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<v Speaker 1>at the fashion wall and she landed it, her first

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<v Speaker 1>solid gig since arriving in Las Vegas. She seems to have,

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<v Speaker 1>to her credit, developed a network of support in an

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<v Speaker 1>intimidating new city. And then another break. Her friend's father,

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<v Speaker 1>her landlord.

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<v Speaker 7>He asked her something the effect of, hey, what do

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<v Speaker 7>you want to do ultimately with your life?

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<v Speaker 8>And she said, you know, I'd like to be a model.

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<v Speaker 1>And her landlord, a kind fatherly figure, encouraged her. And

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<v Speaker 1>so for Sabrina kid life is looking pretty good. She's

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<v Speaker 1>too young to gamble, but it's as if she walked

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<v Speaker 1>into a casino and exited with a pocket full of cash.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, just as everything is coming together, one morning

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<v Speaker 1>in late summer, one of Sabrina's best friends knocks on

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<v Speaker 1>her door, expecting to spend the day with her. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>she learns that Sabrina didn't come home home the previous night.

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<v Speaker 1>No one sees her ever again. Sabrina vanishes. Why How?

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<v Speaker 1>What happened to this promising life? On that late summer

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<v Speaker 1>morning in Las Vegas, Sabrina made a couple of close friends,

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer and Crystal. They were the same age as Sabrina, seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd grown up in Vegas. The three were a striking trio, young,

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<v Speaker 1>full of life and pretty. They snuck into Caesar's Palace

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<v Speaker 1>to hear their favorite bands. They went to high school parties.

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<v Speaker 1>They talked nearly every day. This is Jennifer, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about like girl shed and boys and what are

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<v Speaker 3>we doing this weekend? And what are you wearing? That's

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<v Speaker 3>the kind of stuff today. It's weekend to weekend. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not really deep like oh my mother's you know it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't It never got into that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were all seventeen, Yeah, Vegas was a good

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<v Speaker 1>town to be seventeen, and it was because.

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<v Speaker 3>You knew everybody. You know, there was only so many

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<v Speaker 3>high schools. Everybody knew everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>So they did last Vegacy things like hang on the

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<v Speaker 1>strip and teenage things like attend a junior varsity football game,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what was on the agenda on what would

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<v Speaker 1>be the evening before Sabrina disappeared. After Sabrina vanished, Jennifer

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<v Speaker 1>and Crystal Wood review again and again their last hours together.

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<v Speaker 1>It's September seventeenth, nineteen eighty seven. The evening starts with

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<v Speaker 1>a junior varsity football game at Valley High School. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a bit after sunset, and Crystal picks up some Sabrina

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a car, though with her new job, it's

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<v Speaker 1>on her list. As usual, Sabrina looks great. She's tall

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<v Speaker 1>and slender. Her nails are painted pink, her favorite color

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<v Speaker 1>from childhood. A couple of boys decide to flirt with Sabrina,

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<v Speaker 1>which annoys the boys at girlfriend's harshing the mellow Crystal

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<v Speaker 1>and Sabrina leave in a bad mood, talking about those

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<v Speaker 1>rude girls. A bit after eight pm, Crystal drops Sabrina

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<v Speaker 1>off at her place. An hour or so later that

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<v Speaker 1>same evening, so still September seventeenth, Jennifer picks Sabrina up

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<v Speaker 1>around nine pm. They head over to Jennifer's boyfriend's apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>He's older and has his own place. Both Jennifer and

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<v Speaker 1>Sabrina spend the night. It's now morning, September eighteenth. Sabrina's

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<v Speaker 1>running late for work and starts shaking Jennifer awake. Sabrina

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<v Speaker 1>needs a rick home because Crystal is picking her up.

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<v Speaker 1>Crystal and Sabrina are both working at Lane Brian at

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<v Speaker 1>the fashion mall and they can't be late, so Jennifer

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<v Speaker 1>drives Sabrina back to her place. She drops Sabrina at

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<v Speaker 1>about eight thirty in the morning. The drop off will

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<v Speaker 1>stick in Jennifer's mind because Sabrina doesn't have her keys.

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<v Speaker 1>She empties her purse in Jennifer's car looking for them,

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<v Speaker 1>but no luck. Sabrina has to knock on the door.

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer remembers that the landlord lets Sabrina in. You dropped

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<v Speaker 1>her off at like nine in the morning and it

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<v Speaker 1>was early yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>About an hour later, Crystal pulls up to Sabrina's place.

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<v Speaker 1>It's around nine to thirty in the morning. Sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>her car, Crystal honks, expecting Sabrina to pop out. As

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<v Speaker 1>her friends know, Sabrina is dependable and always He's punctual,

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<v Speaker 1>but Sabrina doesn't appear, so Crystal gets out of her

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<v Speaker 1>car and goes to the front door and knocks two times,

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<v Speaker 1>three times. The door finally opens, but only a few inches.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the landlord in his bathrobe. Usually he's friendly to

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<v Speaker 1>Crystal and invites her in. This morning, he seems put out.

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<v Speaker 1>Crystal asks him, you've seen Sabrina. We're supposed to go

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<v Speaker 1>to work. I told her I would meet her. She's

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<v Speaker 1>not home. The landlord tells her he doesn't know where

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<v Speaker 1>she is, so Crystal heads to work alone. Sabrina doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>show up. Cristal doesn't hear from Sabrina all day, and

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<v Speaker 1>neither does Jennifer, and they're usually in touch daily. Sabrina

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<v Speaker 1>had mentioned an opportunity to go to California for free

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<v Speaker 1>that weekend. Maybe she's taken up that offer. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind to modeling work or that guy she just meant. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>it isn't like Sabrina to be out of touch. Jennifer says,

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<v Speaker 1>they have to go to the police.

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<v Speaker 3>We waited twenty four hours and then we went to

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<v Speaker 3>the police. We said she's missing, something happened, and they

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<v Speaker 3>just didn't believe us. One point, they said that she

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<v Speaker 3>was class as a runaway and there's nothing they could do.

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer isn't satisfied when Sabrina doesn't show up. In the

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<v Speaker 1>next couple of days, she and Crystal returned to the

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<v Speaker 1>police department. This time the cops accused them.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember them saying, oh, you were a prostitute that

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<v Speaker 3>went to Caesar's Palace, and I was like, no, even

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<v Speaker 3>if it was for it had nothing to fucking do

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<v Speaker 3>with the fact that she's missing. I remember being so

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<v Speaker 3>fucking angry.

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<v Speaker 1>What happens after Jennifer and Crystal visit the police. As

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<v Speaker 1>far as they can tell, nothing. Sabrina's case is filed

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<v Speaker 1>with the files of hundreds of other missing teenagers, seemingly

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<v Speaker 1>a final resting spot, except that her family back in Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Sue. Sabrina's mother, along with her aunt, will not

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<v Speaker 1>give up. They scour missing person reports from around the country.

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<v Speaker 1>They reach out to media. If they could just get

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<v Speaker 1>her image on TV, maybe someone would recognize her four

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<v Speaker 1>excruciating years past like this, it's now nineteen ninety one,

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<v Speaker 1>and someone mother or aunt gets an idea. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>very popular new tabloid TV show, A current affair maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they'd taken an interest in the story of a beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>teenager who mysteriously vanishes in Las Vegas. It's worth a shot.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm sitting there one day on the phone rings

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<v Speaker 4>and I pick it up.

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<v Speaker 1>So in nineteen ninety one, Lindall Marx answers the phone

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<v Speaker 1>in her office. Lindall is at that moment a new

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<v Speaker 1>reporter at the wildly popular TV show A turn affair

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<v Speaker 1>leader in the newest TV genre, the tabloid.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we would get calls often. It would be

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<v Speaker 4>people that knew were crazy, people who just had dumb stories,

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<v Speaker 4>just unbelievable stories, or you know, I've spotted a celebrity

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever, and you know, how much? How much will

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<v Speaker 4>you pay for my tape today?

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<v Speaker 1>The caller is a woman, middle aged. From the sound

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<v Speaker 1>of her voice, I've spoken a Texas draw. She introduces

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<v Speaker 1>herself as the aunt Lindall. Here's the mother in the background.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm talking to her. I'm talking to her and

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<v Speaker 4>and they weren't crazy at all. And this woman tells

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<v Speaker 4>me that her niece is missing, and my first reaction

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<v Speaker 4>was okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Theann explains that her niece was living in Las Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>when she vanished.

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<v Speaker 4>And she was clearly upset. We have phoned newspapers, We've

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<v Speaker 4>phoned other people in the media, we have phoned the

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<v Speaker 4>local press. No one cares. We can't get anyone to

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<v Speaker 4>do anything. You are our last resort, right Okay, So

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<v Speaker 4>what have you done? Have you told the police? Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>but the police have done nothing. What do you mean

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<v Speaker 4>the police have done nothing. We reported her missing a

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<v Speaker 4>few days after she went miss they've done nothing. And

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<v Speaker 4>when I hear that, that makes me go, I'm here

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<v Speaker 4>for you. I will listen to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Linda is in her twenties and already a seasoned reporter.

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<v Speaker 1>She comes from a hard news background. She's Australian, but

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<v Speaker 1>more at home in a place like New York, where

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<v Speaker 1>ambition and she's ambitious matters.

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<v Speaker 8>I've seen a.

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<v Speaker 1>Bunch of her TV segments from the nineties, and she

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<v Speaker 1>looks cool in a ninety sort of way, petite with

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<v Speaker 1>perfect bangs and those shoulder pads that seem so excellent

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<v Speaker 1>back then. She's down to earth. She does her own

0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:43.159
<v Speaker 1>makeup for TV. As a reporter, she's old school, lots

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<v Speaker 1>of shoe leather, door knocking, file searching, and relentless like

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<v Speaker 1>irrationally relentless, prides herself on that. The word hard bitten

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<v Speaker 1>comes to mind.

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<v Speaker 4>You never take no for an answer.

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<v Speaker 1>But also she's like wildly idealless. She seems to truly

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<v Speaker 1>believe that her efforts, her relentless efforts, can change the

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<v Speaker 1>course of history.

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<v Speaker 4>If I feel like there's a big man kicking a

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<v Speaker 4>little guy in the guts, I will go after that story.

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<v Speaker 4>I will go after that with aggression and passion.

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<v Speaker 1>And from where she sits at a desk on a

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<v Speaker 1>phone in a New York office, the mom and the

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<v Speaker 1>aunt in Texas are the little guys. Lindall can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>that the cops shrugged at the report of their missing girl,

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<v Speaker 1>that they shirked their duty for a soft spoken, helpless

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<v Speaker 1>aunt and mother. The system couldn't be bothered, or so

0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:47.120
<v Speaker 1>it seemed to Lindall at that moment. On the phone,

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<v Speaker 1>the aunt shares more details. She says, her niece disappeared

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<v Speaker 1>from Las Vegas when she was seventeen.

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<v Speaker 4>I asked her when did she go missing? She said,

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<v Speaker 4>four years ago?

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 1>WHOA, Lindall? Four years ago? And they're just popping up now.

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<v Speaker 1>If there was a trail, it's not there. Anymore. That

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:12.880
<v Speaker 1>timetable would have made a lot of reporters hang up.

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<v Speaker 1>Lindall keeps listening.

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<v Speaker 4>So she's begging me to help. I just I filled

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<v Speaker 4>a connection with that family. I felt their pain, and

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<v Speaker 4>I just I felt something was wrong. People don't just

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<v Speaker 4>disappear into thin air.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Lindall, you thought everyone's pushed him aside, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can do something different.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, one, just one problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Lindall doesn't actually have the authority to decide what story

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:52.400
<v Speaker 1>she works on at a current affair. There's a chain

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<v Speaker 1>of command, So she hangs up with the mother and

0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:59.080
<v Speaker 1>aunt and heads to the office of news editor Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning it's Dan who clears or kills story ideas. Reporters

0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:07.920
<v Speaker 1>are in and out of his office all day. It's

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 1>a busy place. Lindall edges her way in. This is Dan.

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<v Speaker 9>She came up to me and said she got a

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<v Speaker 9>phone call and what do I think of this story?

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<v Speaker 9>I said, it's some missing persons. We don't do missing persons.

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<v Speaker 9>There's no conclusion to the story, and she kept insisting

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<v Speaker 9>there was. I said, I can't, no, I can't waste

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 9>any money on this. I'm sorry, there.

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<v Speaker 4>Is something going on here. This this just doesn't sound right.

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<v Speaker 4>She's so young. How do you not follow this kid?

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<v Speaker 4>She's a baby? How do you not follow that? How

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<v Speaker 4>do you ignore a mother?

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<v Speaker 9>She argued with me and said, it's a story here,

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:51.800
<v Speaker 9>I'm telling you I feel it. This is a missing girl,

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:55.920
<v Speaker 9>and it's not a murder investigation, and we don't have facts.

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<v Speaker 9>What is the viewer going to walk away with?

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<v Speaker 1>Lindall, He's being clear, Stop the nonsense, get back to work.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, this is a sausage factory and I've got

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<v Speaker 9>to come up with about four or five stories a night.

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<v Speaker 9>So I can't be wasting my time on stories that

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<v Speaker 9>I feel doesn't have a conclusion.

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<v Speaker 4>Lindall's reaction, Yeah, totally fuck off.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So a girl is missing, a girl who

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<v Speaker 1>because a one phone call Linda feels tied to and

0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 1>so guess what, Linda will find a way.

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<v Speaker 4>When I feel something and my instinct is telling me

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<v Speaker 4>this is right, I have to follow this, I will

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 4>follow it. I will go down every rabbit hole if

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.359
<v Speaker 4>I feel like a victim hasn't been given a voice,

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<v Speaker 4>I won't stop until I have found a way to

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<v Speaker 4>tell that story.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's a reason that Lindall is so compelled by

0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:05.159
<v Speaker 1>this phone call and by this story, a reason that

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Lyndall's kept secret for years, a reason that she's ready

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<v Speaker 1>to reveal on this podcast to a national audience. Just

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a segment on a current affair, only better

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<v Speaker 1>next time. On Killer Story, Lyndall's secret revealed.

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<v Speaker 4>A friend of mine came to visit me and she

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<v Speaker 4>just walked in and I remember the shock on her face.

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<v Speaker 10>I felt an incredible sadness because I could feel that

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<v Speaker 10>it was going to have an impact on her for

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<v Speaker 10>the rest of her life, not in a good way.

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<v Speaker 4>I completely connected to what happened to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I was glad somebody was investigating it, and I remember

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<v Speaker 3>being glad somebody believed that.

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<v Speaker 9>If this wouldn't have worked for lend her career at

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<v Speaker 9>a corner, fair may have come to a dead end.

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<v Speaker 4>You wake up one morning, you go, screw it, I

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<v Speaker 4>need to do the story.

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