1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: production of My Heart Grading. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Nol. They call 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: the bed. We're joined as always with our superproducer, all 7 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: mission controlled decond Most importantly, you are you. You are here, 8 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: and that makes this the stuff they don't want you 9 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: to know now. Long time listeners, fellow conspiracy realists, you 10 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: know we always say that you are the most important 11 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: part of the show. You're the reason we're able to 12 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: do this, and we like to put our money where 13 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: our ears slash microphones are by sharing your stories with 14 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: your fellow listeners. We have a lot of stuff to 15 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: get to. For some scheduling reasons, we actually held off 16 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: on some things, but we think you're going to enjoy 17 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 1: this week's segment. We're going to learn some insights from 18 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: earth Shaman. We're going to get a lot of responses 19 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: to a two part episode that we've done. Before we 20 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: get into that, we're going to address a question many people, 21 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: your faithful correspondence included, have had about the end game 22 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: of the Row versus Wey decision by Scotis the Supreme 23 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: Court of the United States. Uh, you are not the 24 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: only person who is wondering what the ultimate motive is. 25 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, we have been hearing from 26 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: a lot of our fellow listeners on just this question, 27 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: and no, I think one that really stood out to 28 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: you and us comes from Poppy hot Dog. Dog. It's 29 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: a good one, classic nickname. Yeah, I just dive right 30 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: into it. I mean it really, It's something that I 31 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: think we've all discussed in some shape or form off air, 32 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: maybe not so much on the show. Uh. Such a 33 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: divisive topic. Um, but it deserves some conversation unpacking m 34 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: outside of just the kind of surface reasons why this 35 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: might be. We might have been a priority for the 36 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: for the Supreme Court of the United States. Uh, Poppy 37 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: hot Dog. Hey, guys, just want to start off by 38 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: saying everyone involved in the show does an excellent job 39 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: and I have loved listening for the past couple of years. 40 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: I grew up in Alabama, going to a private Christian 41 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: high school, and have spent many hours arguing with some 42 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: of my best friends about abortion and many other topics. 43 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: I am twenty five now and still friends with a 44 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: lot of these guys because I respect their opinion that 45 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: it is a life they are ending, regardless of your 46 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: belief in that. I do not think the people in 47 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: d C give us about ending a human life, even 48 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: if they believe that to be the case. I believe 49 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: the reason row versus way it was overturned was because 50 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: the population growth rate has begun to decline around the 51 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: entire world, specifically in the US. In order for capitalism 52 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: to work properly, the population must grow constantly at some 53 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: specific value because the top one percent or whatever and 54 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: need to have people at the bottom to make money from, 55 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: and rich people will always find a way to get 56 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: an abortion if they need it done. The more negative 57 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: people feel about capitalism, the less votes the Republican Party gets. 58 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: And I say this as someone who is very middle 59 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: ground politically and a fan of capitalism. It is in 60 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: the Republican Party's best interest that people want free market 61 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: because that is what gets them votes. This is why 62 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: I believe that it is the opinion of many of 63 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: them that we should ban all forms of birth control. 64 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: And a very rare example of politicians cutting into pharmaceutical profits. Well, 65 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: I believe abortion should be up to the individual receiving 66 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: it and probably their spouse of applicable. I do understand 67 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: the argument from some people that it should be illegal 68 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: because you're terminating a life. However, I cannot understand the 69 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: opinion of someone who is willing to take away rights 70 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: in order to help an ideology or economic system. Would 71 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: love to hear you guys think thanks poppy, hot talk, 72 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: um ma'am. Some very uh salient points there that I 73 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: think we thought about, and yeah, and and disgusted. Um specifically, 74 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: I really appreciated the pointing out of the very rare 75 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: instance of the Republican Party or just of government in general, 76 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: trying to cut into the profits of pharmaceutical companies. That's 77 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: pretty it is. It is very rare. It isn't pretty 78 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: exceedingly never gonna happen, Never gonna happen. Birth control is 79 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: not going to be outright banned on a federal level. 80 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: It's just it's it's not gonna happen. And you know what, 81 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if a lot of politicians 82 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: performatively arguing for a move like that. Also, No, it's 83 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: not going to happen. It could happen in maybe some states, right, 84 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: but I think that would also be short lived because 85 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: of the backlash will be involved. I think it's a 86 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: really interesting point, though, No Poppy about the uh about 87 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: the idea of growing a population. I want to shout 88 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: out again that excellent quote about caring about the unborn 89 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: and then forgetting about them once they have entered the 90 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: mortal world. You're talking, Poppy about what is usually called 91 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:40,239 Speaker 1: sort of the population replacement rate. Uh. This is the 92 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: fertility rate you need overall to maintain, not necessarily grow, 93 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: to maintain the size of any given population. And it's 94 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: a very simple number. It's two point one children per 95 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: birth giving person. Right. This is the level you need, again, 96 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: not to grow, but to keep on keeping on. Right now, 97 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:10,119 Speaker 1: in the United States, that that number is one point nine, 98 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: which explains what you pointed out earlier popular why the 99 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: population is decreasing, right, And we know that there is 100 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: a pattern that occurs. The pattern is usually this, the 101 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: more developed and economically successful the country becomes, the lower 102 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: the birth rate becomes. As a rule of thumb. The 103 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: only issue with this, and I agree with it. I 104 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: want to hear what you guys think the only issue 105 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: with this is that it describes a great deal of 106 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: intelligence and long term strategic planning to the political class, 107 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: which typically thinks in terms of two to four to 108 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: six years timed on election cycles. This is a payout 109 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: if if they are trying to create more people and 110 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: then naturally to keep those people poor. This is uh 111 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: a multi generational payout, meaning that you might not see 112 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: the benefits of that plan until well after your political 113 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: career has ended. And then, of course, the the argument 114 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm thinking out loud here, the argument against that is 115 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: that these politicians are pursuing the wishes of their largest donors, 116 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: right of the kammakers and business tycoons can wait eighteen years. Maybe, ye, yeah, 117 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: I see your pointmen, But I also think that they're 118 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: pursuing their own interests. I mean, you know what happens 119 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: when your career in politics is over. Uh, You're you're 120 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: obviously feathering a nest in some way, shape or form, 121 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: whether you know you do it overtly and and brazenly 122 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: as some or it's a little more you know, hidden 123 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: in the pork as they say, you know, the things 124 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: that kind of slip into bill. Because I feel like 125 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day. I mean, 126 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: all these politicians now are how benevolent that they may 127 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: seem they're in it for themselves, I think they're in it. 128 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: And again, not all of them. And I'm sure some 129 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: people have a lifelong, you know, desire to to serve 130 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: the public and to actually you know, be a valuable 131 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: member of a lawmaking body, and then the desire to 132 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: help their their fellow humans. But I think a lot 133 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: of times the people that are compelled to do the 134 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: things that it takes to get to those positions are 135 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: often not necessarily doing it out of sheer you know, charity. Um, 136 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: So to me, this argument makes sense. I'm not saying 137 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: that Democrats don't like making money too. I honestly think 138 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: sometimes the difference between the two parties is a lot 139 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: less than we think. In a lot of it's more 140 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: pageantry than it is actual functional reality, you know, and 141 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: that I think they're kind of after some of the 142 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: same things. Uh, And it's all just kind of like 143 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: we have to have this this tet a tet in 144 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: order to like create conflicts so that we kind of 145 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: ignore the fact that what's actually going on is we're 146 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: all sort of being screwed by both parties. But you know, 147 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: I do see the long game of like, you know, 148 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: putting in at least something, while not outright banning abortion, 149 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: something that will make it more difficult for poorer people 150 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: to get one, therefore making it more likely that they 151 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: will have an unwanted pregnancy, uh and an unwanted birth 152 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: that will then go on to become another poor person 153 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: that can be exploited much more easily than someone with 154 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: access to education. And it was wanted. And I'm not 155 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: saying that all people have lesser you know, means or 156 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: less the lower income tears are bad parents. That is 157 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: absolutely not true, um at all. But it's certainly perpetuating 158 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: a system that does tend to create, you know, folks 159 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: that are going to grow up to be drones. Right. 160 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: One thing that I have learned about double think shout 161 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: out to orwell, is that people can become very defensive 162 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: when their practice of double think is pointed out to them. 163 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: And and of course, you know, if you want to 164 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: if you want to make progress with anyone who has 165 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: an opinion or perspective different from your own, your job 166 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: is not to talk until you have listened extensively Listening 167 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: is one of the most underrated, most important skills of 168 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: any human interaction, and a lot of people are just 169 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: terrible at it. I've been terrible at it in the past. 170 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: But the reason I'm bringing up this this mechanic is 171 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: because the double think that often applies here is the 172 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: idea of the idea of not keeping to a continual, 173 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: consistent definition of pro life right pro life. Logically, this 174 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: is just being objective. Pro life would mean not just 175 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: ensuring that human is born, but ensuring they are born 176 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: into a place where they at least get a shot 177 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: at a life worth living. And to force people to 178 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: remove their own bodily autonomy, which is uncomfortably adjacent to 179 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: chattel slavery in that respect. To remove that and then 180 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: to not follow through on your own self reported ideology 181 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: to give those kids a shot at a life worth 182 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: living means that you are either not thinking through the 183 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: entirety of what you are purporting to support, or, i 184 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: argue this is the case with several politicians, you are 185 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: purposely misleading people for an ulterior motive. That's I mean, 186 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: I know that might ruffle some feathers, and I'm not 187 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: being derogatory nor dismissive of people's ideology. I'm saying, an 188 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: ideology to be worth practicing should be consistent in its structure, 189 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: and in this case, what we're seeing is unfortunately inconsistent 190 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: and based more on convenience than it is on conviction. 191 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: I yield my time, Okay, I I shall take that time, sir. 192 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: In my opinion, I don't think abortion factors in at 193 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: all to the growing trend of jobs being lost in 194 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: people finding themselves in a place where they have less 195 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: and less money. Uh. I was just I'm looking at 196 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: statistics here, looking at the estimated number of abortions that 197 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: occurred in the United States in I think twenty nineteen. 198 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: It's somewhere between six five thousand and nine hundred thousand UM. 199 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: That's an estimated number. But then if you look at 200 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: the number of jobs that are being lost at all 201 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: times due to things like automation, uh, you know, like 202 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: lower level jobs. Right, So somebody who doesn't make a 203 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: ton of money already, but has a job that gets 204 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: probably paid hourly and makes enough to almost survive in 205 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: this crazy economy that we live in, but then losing 206 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: their jobs due to automation. It's in the millions, and 207 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: it's only getting higher and higher. Where Like if you 208 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: look at something like Electronic dot Com, they've got a 209 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: ton of statistics over here about the number of robots 210 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: entering the workforce right now, like two and a half 211 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: million that are that are currently in the workforce. Um, 212 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: I feel like we are automating ourselves to the same position, 213 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: the same place economically and from a population standpoint that 214 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: we're talking about, and it doesn't have anything to do 215 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: with whether or not we UH allow children to be 216 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: aborted or not. As from a government standpoint, it's a 217 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 1: very interesting point, Matt. I hadn't really thought about that. Yeah, 218 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: I don't have to give it some unless unless the 219 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: plan is to you know, as you're saying, and as 220 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: Poppy is maybe speculating, the plan is to not allow 221 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: that procedure anymore, so that children are forced to be 222 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: born into not so great situations, so that they're forced 223 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: to find a job for Were the halves right the 224 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: support the haves in some way, because ultimately when they 225 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: want this is this is my thing, the motivation would 226 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: be you need somebody who makes enough money to be 227 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: a proper consumer right to buy the things that the 228 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: corporate owners. UH. That benefits the corporate owners, because that's 229 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: that's what many of us do. We just prop up 230 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: all these giant corporations by buying their stuff all the time, NonStop. 231 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: I see what you're saying, and I you know, I'm 232 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: going to speak on behalf of our fellow listeners, some 233 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: of whom are shouting at their speakers or their their 234 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: their phones right now. By saying this, This concept of 235 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: an ulterior motive is UM bears a lot of similarity 236 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: to the argument that certain economic conditions have been tweaked 237 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: to maintain uh ready population of young, poor people with 238 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: no alternative for success other than joining the military. I 239 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: would say that given the given what we know about 240 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: the human brain, and given what we know about the 241 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: way people tend to react when creating plans, it is 242 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: entirely plausible what happened was a kind of feedback loop 243 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: or slippery slope, whichever analogy you prefer, where one thing 244 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: changed for a short term benefit, and then there was 245 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: a domino effect. Since we're just throwing out analogies, which 246 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: meant that, like let's say someone knows they're going to 247 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: make a killing off instituting UH student loans right, one 248 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: of the most you serious things happening in the US 249 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: outside of privatized healthcare and now everybody else who makes 250 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: a plan on a large scale, on a macro scale, 251 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: they're not starting from square one, They're starting from square two. 252 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: The reality of the field has changed. And then it 253 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: continues is people keep making new plans off a differing 254 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: baseline and towards the end. At some threshold, what happens 255 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: begins to look like from far away, a very well 256 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: thought out and coordinated conspiracy, when the truth is it's 257 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: just very smart and you know, not super ethical people 258 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: reacting to the creations of other people. I don't know 259 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: the answer, folks, but I would say that we have 260 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: to acknowledge that sometimes there's just no one at the wheel. 261 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: There are many groups who want to be but there's 262 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: not one shadowy cabal just yet. Still, it's gonna be bad. 263 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: Gonna be bad. Removing bodily autonomy in almost any regard 264 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: is a step towards slavery. That's my opinion. Here there 265 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: you go, and just last statistic here. According to Mackenzie 266 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: Global Institute study, UH, there could be roughly around as 267 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: an estimate seventy five million jobs globally lost to automation 268 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: by which is just around the quarter. Yeah. Wow, we 269 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: really let with a downer at this time, didn't we. 270 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: Hopefully we have some of that hope that Ben promised 271 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,239 Speaker 1: in the last episode we did coming up. But until then, 272 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,479 Speaker 1: let's take a quick pause, let's hear a word from 273 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: our sponsor, whoever they might be. Uh, and then we're 274 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: back with some more messages from you. And then thanks 275 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: again to Poppy pat Doc for the very thoughtful email. 276 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: Great back, and we have returned to this listener mail segment. Uh. Yeah, 277 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: it's gonna get worse before it gets better in terms 278 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: of joyousness. But uh, I've got some I've got some 279 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: good news on the way. We'll see if it makes 280 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: it into uh this week's segment. I want to thank 281 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: everybody who hit me up on Twitter at Ben Bullying 282 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: hs W or hit me up on Instagram at Ben 283 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: Bulling w l I N because I went. I went 284 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: to you, folks and asked on behalf of our show 285 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: the following I said, recording new conspiracy stuff episodes on 286 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: corporations buying up US homes fascinating slash frightening as anyone 287 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: had a recent experience buying a home or trying to. 288 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: I would love to share it on air. I'm paraphrasing 289 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: myself here, and I thought we could just list some 290 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: of these things, these short responses, and look at some 291 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: trends in there, and I would love to hear you 292 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: guys take so. First trend, people getting inundated with flyers, 293 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: calls and text messages, sometimes after selling a home, sometimes 294 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: having had a home for years, and perhaps most oppressingly, 295 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: sometimes when a relative had passed away. Second common theme, 296 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: all the stuff we outlined in yesterday's We did an 297 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: episode yesterday, So yesterday's episode banks Buying your Neighborhood Part one. 298 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: So I just read some of these. You'll notice some recurring. 299 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: Fellow conspiracy realist here, Uh Tall Pockets said, We've recently 300 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: had flyers left on our door asking if we'd be 301 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: willing to sell. I've also been contacted multiple times asking 302 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: if I'd be willing to sell up property owned my 303 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: my deceased uncle. I can only assume they found my 304 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: info via skip trace. You guys know what skip traces? Right? Actually? Okay? So, 305 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: uh skip trace is is a general term for figuring 306 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: out where somebody's at and there are people who do 307 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: this professionally called skip tracers skip tracing, and you'll often 308 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: hear it regarding finding a fugitive or finding a debtor 309 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: who's tried to ghost on what they owe. Bounty hunters 310 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: do skip tracing stuff like that. But what I liked 311 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: about what Tall Pockets is pointing out is that skip 312 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: tracing isn't always for criminals. It also has commercial application. 313 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: Here is something that I think is is kind of 314 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: a good story from couch spotter over on Twitter. Couch says, 315 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm in Texas, have two houses across the street bought 316 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: by a company and rented out. We refinanced three years 317 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: ago for a hundred and thirty grand and we have 318 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: received mailed offers for two hundred and fifty to two 319 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: hundred ninety thousand dollars. A ton of people in the area. 320 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: I think, uh couches describing are older people selling to 321 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: downsize and cash in. That's common in retirement, right. And 322 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: we see multiple people say what Nate is saying on Twitter, 323 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: I gave up on the idea of owning a home 324 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: long ago for a variety of reasons, and so many 325 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: people said that on Instagram and Twitter. Uh, there's a 326 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: ben Did you mentioned couch spotters response about the rent 327 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: they're charging for those homes by the way. Oh yeah, 328 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: he's saying they're renting for twenty two hundred dollars a month. 329 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: Two thousand, two hundred dollars. Uh, which sounds about right. 330 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm seeing too. Yeah, yeah, and we 331 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: agree with Couch. Wayne Couch says it's literally insane and 332 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: terrifying at the same time. Uh. Our good friends, the 333 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: meme master themselves, Holly says, Homie, I'm trying to move 334 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: in a studio apartment is minimum thirteen hundred dollars dollars. 335 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: And let's go to one more tweet here from the 336 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: last black Hashira, who says, bro, it's happening in my 337 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: neighborhood right now. We got a whole block that are 338 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: all corporations and they bought up from twenty twenty till now. 339 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: And so I follow up with LBH and say, you 340 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: know what part of the U S are you in? 341 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: LBH says, Tampa Bay Region. It's nuts. They overbid people 342 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: by thirty five to fifty thousand dollars. I bought and 343 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: built on an empty lot in the hood before anybody 344 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: gave about this place three years ago. And lb h, 345 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: this is something we hear in Atlanta all the time, right, guys, 346 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: let's go international here, just a few more from from 347 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: Instagram this time. We'll call this person ce C wrights 348 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: In and says not in the US, but being outbid 349 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: constantly was painful. Only got my house because and I quote, 350 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I remember, I think I would have held 351 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: you as a baby at the funeral he got caught 352 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: in the baylor on the main road, referring to my 353 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: cousin's death in a farming accident in when I was 354 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: about eighteen months old. And yes, the seller was at 355 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: the funeral and it held me as a baby. I'm 356 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: picking this example in particular, guys, because I think it 357 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: illustrates some of the nepotism that we alluded to in 358 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: part one of this episode. Have you have you all 359 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: heard stories in your own lives of people saying I 360 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: looked into this house because of a personal connection or 361 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: some kind of you know, nepotistic relationship. Spill it, what's 362 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: what's up. I think it's less nepotistic and it's more 363 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: a human connection. If you can actually make a human 364 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: connection with someone attempting to sell their home before they 365 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: get I'm going to use a term here, corrupted by 366 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: by the sparkly nature of a giant offer twenty to 367 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: fifty dollars more than what a human could actually pay you. Um, 368 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: if you can make that connection, you can get a house. 369 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: That's what I'm That's what I'm finding. It's funny you 370 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: say that, but it's also like, I mean, it's kind 371 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: of discouraged to meet the person you're trying to buy 372 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: a house from, or vice versa. That's the whole purpose 373 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: of real estate agents is to keep that human connection 374 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: from happening. That's what they'll say, know them before, you 375 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: could know them before, or reach out to them. They're 376 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: just humans. Everybody's got social media. It's a good point. 377 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: The White website, I will add the first house that 378 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: I bought many years ago when I was married in Athens. 379 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: Part of the reason we bought is because we did 380 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: accidentally meet the owner and he was this charming older 381 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: gentleman who was an artist. We really loved his paintings. 382 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: We love the fact that he raised his family there 383 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: and his kids there and all this stuff, and the 384 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: house was kind of a rip off. He had bondowed 385 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: over all kinds of crap on the porch, and there 386 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: were all kinds of things that were band aided that 387 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: the inspectors didn't catch. So I would argue that human 388 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: connection can go both ways. Here's a here's another UH. 389 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: Here's another quick update from our colleague, the creator and 390 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: host of Beauty translated here on the I Heart Network, 391 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: Carman says, my boyfriend and I spent all summer last 392 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: year trying to buy a home here in Atlanta. We 393 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: made about twenty plus offers. We almost always got out 394 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: bid by an investor with cash and about fifty thousand 395 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: dollars over the asking price. We had to start calculating 396 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: the extra fifty thousand dollars into our house buying budget. 397 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: The homes that we did get selected for didn't pass 398 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: the inspections, so we had to move on fifty dollars. God. 399 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard that around thirty is pretty standard, 400 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: even without having to compete with a with the developer 401 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: like that, but fifty just seems heartbreaking. I mean, so 402 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: so much of this, UH is the power that you 403 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: have comes from your down payment, and so much of 404 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: that is a lifelong amount of savings you know, or 405 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: maybe you get help from family or who knows. That 406 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: is such a part of the whole equation. And if 407 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: you don't have that, then you're helpless. Uh. And and 408 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: to make it where even people that have done their 409 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: due diligence and like save this money and and done 410 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: everything right are still incapable of of winning. It's just 411 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna beat people down. The number is shocking to me. 412 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: We're going to find that what's happening is a lot 413 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: of times institutions, investment entities are paying over asking price 414 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: by this level because they're not competing with you folks, 415 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: not really, they're competing with other institutions. And if those 416 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: other institutions can bring twenty thousand dollars over asking price, 417 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: then of course the next thing their competitor is going 418 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: to do is bring twenty five to thirty and then 419 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: the number builds up because overbidding has become normalized. Let's 420 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: go to one more. Our good pal outdoor adventurer education, 421 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: that's what we'll call you, uh says. We sold our 422 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: home in November. We ended up selling it to a 423 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: friend that they could use as a rental property. So 424 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: the house was never officially on the market. We did 425 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: meet with an agent, but never listed, and we had 426 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: a home inspection done. But for months we got calls 427 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: for we will buy your home for cash, and it 428 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: was actual people calling us, not recordings. This is what's interesting. 429 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: It gives us a little look at the process here. 430 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: Our agent told us it would happen as soon as 431 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: he started pulling info on the house. So as soon 432 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: as there is activity right in certain databases, then imagine 433 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: all the almost like hyenas, right, Imagine all the ears 434 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: perking up in the valley and running towards the fresh meat. Yeah, God, 435 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: it's it's that way in my house right now, you guys. 436 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: M hm, it's very weird. The hyena's got that sent Yeah. 437 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: I think I mentioned this without talking too much about 438 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: my own personal life, but it was it was very 439 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: strange when as as soon as by biological mother passed away, 440 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: I started getting all these correspondencies that we're just trying 441 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: to buy my parents house, and they got the you know, 442 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: they got the ping to make that attempt, probably due 443 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: to public records of her passing, which I think is 444 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: simply ghoulish. Oh god, yes, well, it's sort of like 445 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: that thing. What was it where someone's parents found out 446 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: their daughter was pregnant because they got some automated piece 447 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: of mail average Target or like baby products from Target 448 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: or something like that. You know, uh, it is ghoulish. 449 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, like I said, you know, 450 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: I mentioned on the last episode, I did just buy 451 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: a house. In the moment that happened, I'm getting all 452 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: kinds of crap in the mail for mortgage protection, mortgage insurance, this, 453 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: that and the other, and some of it is package 454 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: in a way that makes you think it's like a 455 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 1: legal correspondence from the government and that what they're selling 456 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: you is like required by law, and it's not. This 457 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: is okay, all right, I know I said one one more, 458 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: but this is one more and more. There you go. 459 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: There's our encore for this. This is a report coming 460 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: from our friend Joe in Canada, in Vancouver, British Columbia specifically. No, 461 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: we did a number of years ago. I think we 462 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: looked at the housing crisis in different metro areas of 463 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: Canada do in large part to foreign investment, right, and 464 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: I think we were as fair as possible in that episode, 465 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: but with a lot of Canadian contacts that I have 466 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: made through this show and through other pursuits, I found 467 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: that there is a housing epidemic at this point. So 468 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: here's what Joe says. Joe says, laugh out loud, living 469 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: in Vancouver, BC, and my war story is, quote, are 470 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: you young and not a millionaire? Don't bother? And then 471 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: Joe says, detached houses are going for three hundred to 472 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: six hundred thousand dollars over asking price, even if they 473 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,719 Speaker 1: are absolutely trash. No subjects, no questions, just bidding wars. 474 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: He says, Now the tactic by realtors in UH in 475 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: Vancouver is to list low to incite bidding wars, and 476 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: then if they don't get the results they want, they 477 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: pull the listing. Wait a second, and relist higher. And 478 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: even an unfavorable market, says Joe, the average price for 479 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: a detached home has creeped up to well north of 480 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: one point two to one point five million dollars. Yeah, 481 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: what home referring to exactly, It's a it's a home 482 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: that stands alone like picture a yard house. Okay, it's 483 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: a house. Yeah, so Joe has Joe has an interesting 484 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: addecdote as well that he ends here with we purchased 485 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: our eight hundred square foot condo four years ago for 486 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: four hundred and twenty thousand dollars, and a comparable unit 487 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: just sold for six hundred and thirty thousand dollars. So 488 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: even the attached market right condos is crazy here. And 489 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: then Joe says, town houses not sure if you guys 490 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: call it the same thing down south, are now listing 491 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: for nine hundred to one million dollars. I responded to Joe, 492 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of construction here in Atlanta, and 493 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: if I look out the right window where I'm recording now, 494 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: I can see town homes that are going for nine 495 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: hundred to one million dollars. And you guys know where 496 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: I live. It's not the best neighborhood. It's it's nuts. Um. 497 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: I just don't know how people can compete six hundred 498 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: thousand dollars over asking price. How is that not another house? 499 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: How is it sure? But like, how is any of 500 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: this legal? I mean, I mean it is, I know 501 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: it is, but it's like it's just it's just kind 502 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: of run a muck, you know, and there's there's nothing 503 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: in place to protect anybody. Methinks it ought not to 504 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: be legal. Gents. I do think there's going to have 505 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: to be some kind of regulation, like we talked about. Well, 506 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil too much. I think it's 507 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: in part two of the episode, the two part episode 508 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: that we we talked about this banks buying your your 509 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: home or hedge funds or whatever. Um I think I 510 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: think regulation is going to have to come through very 511 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: soon to roll back well what they started after the collapse. 512 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: And at this point we're gonna pause. Thank you to 513 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: everybody who wrote in and shared your stories. If you 514 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: have your own story you'd like to share, we'd love 515 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: to hear from you. You know how to get in 516 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,479 Speaker 1: touch me, and we tell you how to get in 517 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: touch with the show at the end of this week's 518 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: Listener Male segment. But for now, let's pause for a 519 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: word from our sponsor who I don't know, who is it? 520 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: Zelo who knows? Uh? And we'll return with another message 521 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: from you. All right, and we're back really quickly. Man. 522 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, I just had this thing in mind. 523 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: I just found it. Um Ben, you were talking about 524 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: the last segment about you know, all these but we 525 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: buy houses for cash, you know signs. Apparently those yellow 526 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: signs first of all, are called bandit signs. I've never 527 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: heard that before, and uh, they're illegal, and they you know, 528 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: basically are like solicitation. But just just in the interest 529 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: of talking about how people will just try to put 530 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: one over on anybody, I started to see versions of 531 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: signs like that don't say we'll buy your house for cash, 532 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: but they say we buy diabetic test strips. And as 533 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: we know that you, medical supplies for folks with diabetes 534 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: are quite expensive. Insurance off it won't pay for them, 535 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: and they can be in short supply. So it just 536 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: goes to show that anybody with an opportunity to make 537 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: a buck, no matter how despicable, will do just that. 538 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: Have you found anyone that sells PS fives like after merch? 539 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: I think you're only allowed to have one? Right, Do 540 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: you mean he'll send me, he'll sell me more, your guy, 541 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: let's uh, let's off. Okay, okay, cool, I want to 542 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: get on this. I need that haptic feedback baby, right, 543 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: there are a lot of years on us right now, fellas, 544 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: So okay, okay, okay, we'll be up at the HQ 545 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: after years and years go away. Not I'm just kidding. 546 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: You should stay. Let's listen to this message we got 547 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: from earth Shoman. Why you can just calm your earth 548 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: Shoman if you want. I had a conversation with the 549 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: fella earlier today. He happens to do survival training for 550 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: what we'll call operators, and um, of course, you know, 551 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: and in the course of the survival of things, the 552 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: conversation occurs, um, you know what, when is it going 553 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: to hit the fan? And this individual was told by 554 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: someone within that community, who obviously would have access to 555 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: a good amount of intelligence. They said that happened a 556 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: year ago. It's just the shock wave hadn't hit us yet, 557 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: so they are already making preparations to be in a 558 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: more strategic location elsewhere this and when that occurs. I 559 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: didn't know there's anythings cover recently. I'm kind of do 560 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: to the show, but I wanted to get your guys 561 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: take on it. I think now there's not information around 562 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: it probably makes them educated guests and none of them 563 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 1: are nice. But thanks again, guys, take care, stay safe. 564 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 1: Oh man, thank you so much earth Shaman for sending 565 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: that to us, because you know that is just that's 566 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: that's a whole conversation. We're about to have and it's 567 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: gonna go dark and that's okay, But uh, really thank 568 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: you for having that conversation and then giving us a 569 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: call and letting us know about it. So, guys, what 570 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: are your immediate reactions? He's correctly, I mean, it depends 571 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 1: on how you want to how you want to define 572 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: this stuff. But the you know, the world is ending 573 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 1: for someone every day, right, it just doesn't always make 574 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: the news. But what depends I think it depends on 575 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: what you define as like what is what is the 576 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: feces right hitting the fan here um? If you're talking 577 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: about economic problems, then it does make a lot of 578 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: sense because we're talking about the interval between when something 579 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: can be said to have occurred, right, whatever that folk 580 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 1: raum is, whatever that hinge moment is, and the amount 581 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: of time it takes to hit the population right in 582 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: a widely noticeable, commonly experienced way. So by by those 583 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: parameters you can think of a tsunami. A tsunami doesn't 584 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: hit the coast the moment the earthquake occurs on the seabed. 585 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: It takes a while for the water to roll your weight, 586 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: and in many, in many ways, that is what is 587 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 1: happening now. The US is an enormously divisive time. Uh. 588 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: And the US is, you know, a country obsessed with itself, 589 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 1: so sometimes it forgets to look at global trends. There 590 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: is a rise of fascism across multiple multiple parts in 591 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: the world. There are increasingly restrictive laws, Uh, policing free speech. 592 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's yes, it's also what's happening. Yeah, let's 593 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: get into some of those specifics. But at first, I 594 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: want to tell you a little bit more about earth Shaman. Uh. 595 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 1: You guys know me I gave gave the Shamana call. 596 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: Uh want to give you some more specifics about what 597 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: he was stating there. Uh, this is obviously a second 598 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 1: hand story. We know that from what he said. It's 599 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: a person he talked to who had spoken to somebody else, right, 600 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: the third hand story whatever, And so we don't have 601 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 1: a lot of specifics. That person wasn't being specific when 602 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: they talked to earth Shaman about what that thing was 603 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,439 Speaker 1: that happened a year ago. But the conversation took place 604 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 1: roughly a month ago from today, So uh, in June 605 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: mid June. If we're talking about a year ago and 606 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 1: we want to really speculate on a thing an event 607 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: or you know, whatever this bomb was that went off 608 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: that we're going to feel a shockway from It's sometime 609 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: in It's what what we're thinking here. Earth Shaman noted 610 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: that the economic stimulus payments stopped at a certain date. 611 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 1: He was he was just wondering if that might have 612 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: something to do with it. Um. We were also talking, 613 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: you know, we mentioned the instance that occurred on January six, uh, 614 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: and there are a couple other things. I just want 615 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: to kind of throw some things out at you guys 616 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: and see what you think about them. Stuff that happened. 617 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: There was the United States rejoining of the Paris Climate 618 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: Accords and NATO. That was one of the major things 619 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: that occurred. The US withdrew from Afghanistan, which is you know, 620 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 1: if you're thinking about military action and then content major 621 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:30,439 Speaker 1: consequences to something that occurred, that's a big one. Um. 622 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: There was what else happened in guys, I'm trying to 623 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: think of the other major things. Yeah, there was there 624 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: was that pandemic thing. Yeah, you know what I was 625 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: thinking about the major power outages that occurred in Texas 626 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: that went down to me, this is a climate change 627 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: related you know, And I mean I was thinking about, uh, 628 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,959 Speaker 1: that stuff, and also how like there's a new story 629 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,919 Speaker 1: that's been going around about the heat waves in the UK, 630 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: how like planes aren't able to land because like the 631 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: runways are melting, and like people are like dying and 632 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: homes are burning down, you know. I mean, I think 633 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: it's the climate change related to shoe that we're seeing 634 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: drop you know, on the regular. To me, it's got 635 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: to be civil unrest, because civil unrest is the thing 636 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: that's going to tear down, like stop everything from working. Stress. 637 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: This is an operator and so there more likely than 638 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:38,280 Speaker 1: average to be referring to political unrest. The statistics are there, 639 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: you know. I was talking with our pal Robert Evans 640 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: about this a while back, quite a while back. Um. 641 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: He has an excellent podcast called it Could Happen here 642 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: to check it out. The issue is that you can 643 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: see you have to fight your own desire to classify 644 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 1: everything is an understandable and predictable pattern. But while doing 645 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: you cannot avoid the similarities in domestic US politics. Uh, 646 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: currently you can't avoid the similarities they bear to the 647 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: time leading up to the US Civil War, which again 648 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: is just a terrible name, is very rude and brutish 649 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: and cruel and nasty. It was very much not civil. 650 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: But but does this mean that a civil war in 651 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: actual war will occur. Not necessarily, it does mean that 652 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 1: there may be secessionist movements that gain more steam than usual. 653 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: A lot of times secessionist movements simply don't have the um, 654 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,919 Speaker 1: the training, and the tactical knowledge that they would need 655 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,760 Speaker 1: to even stand a chance. And I think one mistake 656 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people make when they talk about the 657 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: idea of secessionist groups or home trained, home cooked malicious 658 00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: starting war, they forget that the normity of the US 659 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: military and intelligence apparatus. It is frightening and they will 660 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: reign fire because they do like, if there's a serious 661 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: secessionist then I guarantee you, unless the military and the 662 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: top brass are compromise, their approach is going to be 663 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: cut this off immediately, will handle whatever pr occurs afterwards. 664 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: It's true, right, We'll send a flamethrower vehicles into that compound. 665 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:37,439 Speaker 1: We've seen it before. Yeah, wow, okay, well guys, yeah, 666 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: that's definitely my thinking that there's gonna be some kind 667 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:46,439 Speaker 1: of desperation and enough people because I think we talked 668 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: about this too it's it's related. I really do feel 669 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: like infrastructure is going to break down due to the 670 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: extreme hot, cold, storm, you name it. And if it 671 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: breaks down on a wide enough scale for a long 672 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: enough time him then the people you know with the 673 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: guns will attempt to get what they need and the 674 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,720 Speaker 1: people in charge of maintaining order will also use their guns. 675 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: And that's when it feels like stuff really breaks and 676 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: nobody sees themselves as the bad guy in this situation. 677 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: That's that's part that's important human thing to remember. Well, 678 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,280 Speaker 1: we've also talked about things like water wars and water 679 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: disputes and now like those types of yeah, climate migrants 680 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 1: and means, they are all related. I mean, you know 681 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna have climate change issues that result in fires, 682 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 1: and then when people get displaced, then they become civilly unrestful, 683 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 1: let's just say. And the same thing with like scarcity 684 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: and you know things that we need to survive like 685 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 1: water and food and all of that stuff. That's kind 686 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: of you know, further hit the fan when the other 687 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: thing hits the fan. Um, it's a it's a series 688 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 1: of very tenuously placed dominoes. Well, let's talk about what 689 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: Earth Strawman is doing gonna give a little more context. 690 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: This is why he had the conversation, and this is 691 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 1: why I think he's a very helpful person to learn 692 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: stuff from. Shaman has military experience, and Seman also is 693 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: very good at some survival stuff like foraging. He's excellent 694 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:22,280 Speaker 1: at foraging. He also grows foods. He's a farmer, and 695 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: he talked to this person that that he mentions in 696 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: his call at you know, a farmer's market where there 697 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: are a bunch of farmers getting together to sell their 698 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,919 Speaker 1: wares to other people. And the discussion was we need 699 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: to strengthen our ties as farmers because we are going 700 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: to have our own little microeconomy when the rest of 701 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: the economy collapses, because we'll be able to barter your 702 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: micro greens from my mushrooms, you know whatever, your butternut 703 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: squash for my corn. Um And I don't know, that 704 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: just feels like a really smart thing to do to 705 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: have those kind of tax and to have something that 706 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: is barterable in those times, um, if not to manufacture it, 707 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 1: to at least have a good amount of something yet 708 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: point I mean, because one huge difference between like again 709 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: not to be alarmists, but just hypothetically thinking through the 710 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: difference between a civil war in two versus or three 711 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: really versus a civil war in the eighteen hundreds is 712 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 1: the prevalence of technology and the dependence upon global supply chains. 713 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: During the time of the civil war, the US was 714 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 1: still uh in its majority and agrarian economy. That is 715 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: no longer the case. UH. And it's it's quite intelligent, 716 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: I would say, shaman to have this sort of self 717 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 1: reliant skill. If you go to the Great Depression in 718 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties in the United States, another terrible name, 719 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 1: by the way, because it was not great. It was 720 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: you know, it sucked, but they didn't want to call 721 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,919 Speaker 1: it the sucking Depression. Uh. Anyhow, the the idea there, 722 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: what we saw happening was that these micro communities did propagate, 723 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 1: they did generate, right because you can't afford to buy things, 724 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: but you still have the same amount of time you 725 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: had the only true currency in the world. So you dedicate, 726 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: you prioritize, and reallocate that time to refining and practicing 727 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: your skills that are useful to that local community. You 728 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 1: grow the food, and you trade the food, and you 729 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: find out that yet paper money and coins. They're nice, 730 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 1: but you can't eat them. You don't even really burn 731 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 1: that well if you're trying to start a fire. So 732 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: there is you know, it's a it's a philosophical paradigm shift. 733 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 1: But it also makes me think of a question that 734 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:54,320 Speaker 1: I have for you, Matt and Funeral and for everybody listening, 735 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 1: because earth Shaman is an example for the class. Earth 736 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: Shaman had a skill, right, So my question for you 737 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: and all our all our folks tuning into this week's 738 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: listener mail segment is what skill are you working on 739 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: if everything falls down? Because I'll tell you what. I 740 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 1: love what we do here, but I don't think a 741 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 1: new civilization or a new self sustaining community necessarily needs 742 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 1: podcasters barred. I'm going to be a bard. Well, Ben, 743 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,800 Speaker 1: you can just be the leader of whatever group I 744 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: would follow you, sweet man, I'm gonna bug out the 745 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 1: real quick cool. Uh yeah. I I don't know what 746 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,439 Speaker 1: I would be able to do, but I bug pretty 747 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 1: quick back. Yeah you do. It's very true, and you 748 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 1: got some good skills. You can fix a superca and 749 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: you can run a trot line. Right. I will chop 750 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 1: as much would as you could possibly ever need so 751 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: Litz the last thing guys with on the foraging tip, 752 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 1: Shaman has some recommendations for everybody just so you can 753 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: hone your foraging skills if you want to. It's probably 754 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 1: a smart thing, smart survival skill for that full bushcraft 755 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,879 Speaker 1: badge that you might get one day or or need. 756 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,800 Speaker 1: A couple of apps. One is called picture This apparently 757 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: that one's very popular, one called I Naturalist from nat 758 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 1: g O, and another one called seek uh. And all 759 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,879 Speaker 1: three of these you can do interesting things like take 760 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 1: pictures of a mushroom that you find, or a berry 761 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: or whatever plant and you can find out if it's edible, 762 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: how you can make it edible those kinds of things. 763 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: And the crowdsource often where there are other people using 764 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: the app and it has to get verified multiple times 765 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: before you can like, you know, agree everyone agrees that yes, 766 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,359 Speaker 1: this this thing is edible or not. It's really really 767 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,359 Speaker 1: really cool stuff. I don't have any of them yet. 768 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 1: I do have a few. Oh, this is what Seaman said. 769 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: It gets a little weird when it comes to fun guy. 770 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: So unless you are with an expert, Yeah, yeah, it's 771 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 1: tough to tell with photographs often, So what what Shaman 772 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 1: recommends is getting into a Facebook group, because Facebook groups 773 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 1: often will respond rapidly, very quickly to a specific question 774 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: if you are foraging, or if it's necessary for you 775 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,359 Speaker 1: to forage in any moment um, that is, if there's 776 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: power and internet still. But a Facebook group can generally 777 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 1: respond to you and give a pretty good analysis of 778 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: a certain mushroom. But again, as Ben said, it's way 779 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 1: safer to either be an expert or to be with 780 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,839 Speaker 1: an expert before you just go chopping on fun. Guy. 781 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 1: That's the thing about community, I mean, think of all 782 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 1: think of all the services that you will need to allocate, 783 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 1: right for a true self sustaining community, even if it's 784 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: just keeping the lights on in the mid term, for 785 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 1: a return of rule of law, our normalcy. You a 786 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 1: lot of people think about security, right, I want to 787 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: be the guy with the gun and says someone the 788 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 1: same way that kids on Xbox say, I want to 789 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 1: be the sniper. Right. It just feels cool, right, And 790 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 1: a lot of those folks don't have the training to 791 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 1: do so in a reliable and safe way. But if 792 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: we get past the hype and the fictionalized stories that 793 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 1: people tell themselves, then you're looking at things like you 794 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 1: need a doctor who can also function as a veterinarian 795 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,839 Speaker 1: and a dentist and help you know, barber to why 796 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,399 Speaker 1: not go bid evil having to do the haircuts as well. 797 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:39,400 Speaker 1: And you'll need someone who can help rear children. If 798 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 1: you have young people, you'll have need to have someone 799 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 1: who can help with the elderly. If you have older 800 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 1: people who aren't necessarily physically able to contribute, you know, 801 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 1: in an arduous way, You'll need to have someone who 802 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 1: can repair every machine if possible, someone with engineering knowledge, 803 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 1: someone with kemm it knowledge of chemistry. Right, you'll need 804 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 1: You'll need plenty of foragers like Ersham and his pointing. 805 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,799 Speaker 1: Now you know what, Forget Matt, No, I'm I'm gonna 806 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: make a spreadsheet so he has a better spreadsheet. But 807 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 1: I think it's time we get this in writing and 808 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 1: figure out our team perfect and make sure it doesn't 809 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,959 Speaker 1: go all Handmaid's Tale on us. That would be cool, 810 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 1: very much. I mean that would be cool if it 811 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: didn't write Oh yes, okay, back, I'm back on board, 812 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 1: back on board um and would love to hear also 813 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 1: would love to hear the thoughts of our fellow listeners 814 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 1: who have pondered this before. Many people have been in 815 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 1: contact with a lot of people who have UM. We 816 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 1: get calls about this occasionally as well, and I think 817 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 1: it's just important to not think in terms of some 818 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 1: hyper violent post apocalyptic action movie. If you want to 819 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 1: be realistic, think about it. You're thinking about food, water, survival, 820 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 1: and safety, right those those are what you're really thinking about. 821 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 1: And that means that a lot of the skills that 822 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 1: are going to be mission critical, they're not super sexy. 823 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 1: They're not the no scope sniper from some multiplayer Xbox game. 824 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 1: There there are people who are like, I know how 825 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,359 Speaker 1: to grow tomatoes even in this terrible, terrible climate. It's 826 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 1: isn't a classic human It's like a post apocalyptic situation, 827 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 1: but it's boring. It's human. It's mostly scheduling binality of humanity. 828 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 1: Have you guys seen the New Resident Evil? It starts 829 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 1: that way. It's like, man, is so boring doing the 830 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 1: research for this post apocalyptic zombie stuff like an unrelated 831 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,879 Speaker 1: or tangentially related like in that segment and red Dead 832 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 1: redemption to where you are. This isn't much of a 833 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 1: spoiler where you're basically doing chores. There's tons of games 834 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,360 Speaker 1: like that. There's like office simulator, there's like like working 835 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 1: in a restaurant simulator, there's like this is a thing 836 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 1: people like like. Well, in the interest of education, then 837 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 1: I propose that we make a realistic post apocalyptic America 838 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,400 Speaker 1: survival simulator and we really drive home the message that 839 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff you need to do is 840 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: not going to be personally exciting to you. You know 841 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 1: what I mean? Well, and and and one of the 842 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 1: newer Fallout games, you you are able to kind of 843 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 1: build yourself a little structure that you have to you know, 844 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 1: collect scrap metal to do. And honestly, that was the 845 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 1: most boring part of the game and I never went 846 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,320 Speaker 1: back to it. So yeah, but we just need to 847 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,360 Speaker 1: make it to where you have to cut every board, 848 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:53,359 Speaker 1: you have to form every piece of iron, nail every nail. 849 00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 1: Uh So, what an excellent conversation. Know, we went a 850 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 1: little bit a little bit long in this week's listener 851 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 1: mail segment, but we very much missed doing. This is 852 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 1: one of our favorite times of the week and we 853 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 1: would like you to be a part of it. So 854 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,399 Speaker 1: follow in the epic footsteps of Poppy hot Dog. Are 855 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 1: all our friends on Twitter and Instagram. 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