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Speaker 3: This is Hanging with the Boys, presented by Windstuff where
Speaker 3: Flavor gets its wings. Now, your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels,
Speaker 3: Jesse Holly, and Shannon.
Speaker 4: Gross, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5: It's Thursday.
Speaker 4: You'll like rive at Tostitos Championship Plaza at the moment,
Speaker 4: hopefully soon, maybe it's sometime during the show.
Speaker 5: You'll get to be looking live at practice.
Speaker 4: But at the plaza it is ninety nine degrees and
Speaker 4: sunny with a high of one hundred and three.
Speaker 3: Today.
Speaker 5: The load of night is seventy.
Speaker 4: Eight out in Oxnard, sixty nine o'cloud Jesse the highest
Speaker 4: seventy one when the marine layer burns.
Speaker 5: Off, and tonight it'll be sixty.
Speaker 6: One degrees nic.
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Speaker 4: Its we.
Speaker 5: How we doing today?
Speaker 6: Were good? Scrimmage today?
Speaker 4: Man, scrimmage pads are on some hitting, hitting, some hitting, Nate.
Speaker 4: I've been kidding.
Speaker 8: Today's sixty nine and it's going to four o'clock. Is
Speaker 8: supposed to be well good.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, before we get into football, you've been
Speaker 4: all up and down the coast. Man. I've been keeping
Speaker 4: up with you on the face book. You been riding
Speaker 4: that bike everywhere.
Speaker 6: I was so old.
Speaker 8: Yeah, every day.
Speaker 5: Really, you ride for a couple of hours every day
Speaker 5: in the morning.
Speaker 8: Or even yeah. Yeah, and after afternoon, after we get
Speaker 8: out of practice and stuff like that, and you know,
Speaker 8: view the players and talk to the players and coaches,
Speaker 8: and then you know, after after much go out up. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I gotta admit, man, I gotta admit I would have
Speaker 7: taken you as a as a hog, right, like as
Speaker 7: a hog ride of the big sit down.
Speaker 8: I was.
Speaker 7: Now you you the loss of pounds, and now you
Speaker 7: got the knees replaced, and now you got a cross rocket.
Speaker 6: You got a semi crotch rocket going on out there? Man?
Speaker 6: What was what's going on? Let's talk. Are you out
Speaker 6: like like crisis.
Speaker 8: Man, pit the adventure bike, the adventure bike, pull.
Speaker 6: It up, pull it up.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it's it's one of the best touring bikes.
Speaker 8: That's what most the tour around the world on. Ye's
Speaker 8: believe it or not, Man, you don't. You have to
Speaker 8: make a lot of adjustments to that bike just to
Speaker 8: get on it and ride it and toured. You have
Speaker 8: to make a few jobs. I said, I've had four
Speaker 8: or five Harley's Man, and they've all been nice. But
Speaker 8: you just want to get in and ride and make
Speaker 8: it happen. This is the bike. But problem tell you, boy,
Speaker 8: I wanted these rams gonna bring in something. The test
Speaker 8: offense and line and defensive lines today is they got
Speaker 8: the right bike. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: We're gonna see something.
Speaker 5: You know before we get into that.
Speaker 4: There are a few, very few humans that enjoy life,
Speaker 4: like really live life and do their own.
Speaker 5: Thing low low low low.
Speaker 4: Key, like Nate, like, I gotta do my own thing.
Speaker 4: I don't care if people go with me. But like
Speaker 4: Nate does not want you to go with it, Like
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, come if you won't Nate, Nate
Speaker 4: won't even tell you.
Speaker 5: He just goes and does and goes.
Speaker 4: To Mexico and goes back home and goes up and
Speaker 4: down the coast. Like but dude, he but he loves life.
Speaker 4: But you would never know it just talking to him.
Speaker 4: You think he's just grumpy, old crotchety.
Speaker 7: He's that too. That let's not let's not forget that.
Speaker 7: He is that grumpy old crotchety dude. And he's the
Speaker 7: lively life. And you know, I mean, how many in
Speaker 7: our group text. There's probably ten to fifteen just breaking
Speaker 7: points in our group text where we just look up
Speaker 7: and make it's like, hey, gods, what's up? And he'll
Speaker 7: send us a sign and it's Albuquerque, New Mexico on
Speaker 7: a Tuesday at eleven thirty.
Speaker 5: You're like, wait what or just a picture?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Nothing nothing to it. Like we'll, like I said, we'll
Speaker 6: do a show.
Speaker 7: We'll do a show at ten, we'll get a we'll
Speaker 7: get a we'll get a photograph at four o'clock in
Speaker 7: Arizona and Arizona He's like, oh yeah at a trust
Speaker 7: off in Mississippi.
Speaker 5: So you're gonna miss the show tomorrow. Nah, I'll be back.
Speaker 7: Welcome the floor We just saw you four hours ago
Speaker 7: in the studio, like went on down the destined to
Speaker 7: have lunch with a friend of mine.
Speaker 6: I'll be back in the morning.
Speaker 5: Good for you, Nate. I'm glad you're living it up
Speaker 5: out there, so.
Speaker 8: Talk to you. It's the other part in life where
Speaker 8: you can walk around cursing folks like.
Speaker 6: In a bad rap curse pulled the records you want
Speaker 6: the receipts pulled up. We got to that.
Speaker 5: He's taken down.
Speaker 9: We're still doing some work on the On the third one,
Speaker 9: we were pretty sure he had some kind of contact
Speaker 9: in the off season without what we just get figure
Speaker 9: out when and where so for if you count missus,
Speaker 9: you know, mister Hearns. That came out to the fact, Nate,
Speaker 9: what you and Jesse besides just seeing a different face
Speaker 9: and and you know, practicing against them, what are the
Speaker 9: advantages of bringing other teams in and and practicing even
Speaker 9: to me, like the last five years, every time they
Speaker 9: try to do this, they ended early and they they're like,
Speaker 9: this isn't working out because everybody the fights and the
Speaker 9: so are there are their advantages to this? Why do
Speaker 9: why do tempers get so heated because you're allowed to
Speaker 9: swing and you don't go to jail and get kicked
Speaker 9: out of the game.
Speaker 7: Before you answer that question, let me before you answer
Speaker 7: that question, let me just kind of hit people to
Speaker 7: the new thing that's going on.
Speaker 6: And if you may may not have noticed.
Speaker 7: So the NFL love the joint practices to have the
Speaker 7: opportunity to kind of practice against someone else, you know,
Speaker 7: at that level, that controlled atmosphere.
Speaker 6: What the NFL does not like is the fight fights. Yep.
Speaker 6: And so now what.
Speaker 7: Has happened is the NFL has begun to find teams
Speaker 7: so if you're if there's an excessive amount of fights,
Speaker 7: if there's an exceptive amount of violence. We've seen last
Speaker 7: year or two years ago with Aaron Donald had the
Speaker 7: helmet situation where he swung a helmet at somebody. Of
Speaker 7: course we saw the RAMS practices. I want to say
Speaker 7: it was the Lions and the Giants. Those teams got
Speaker 7: fined like two hundred thousand, three hundred thousand dollars for
Speaker 7: their excessive fighting in practice.
Speaker 6: This year this year, like yesterday.
Speaker 7: Yesterday, two days ago like so. So before Nate gets
Speaker 7: into the advantages of it, just know that the NFL
Speaker 7: has said we're done with the fighting. So now teams
Speaker 7: and more coaches are saying, if you're fighting in practice,
Speaker 7: you're kicking, We're kicking you out. You're done because it's
Speaker 7: costing now the team's money.
Speaker 4: Hell and fine, I might just go after first play
Speaker 4: and swing on somebody I'm out there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you can't do that.
Speaker 7: But then all a sudden, if you're in a position battle,
Speaker 7: if you if you're in a position battle, you you
Speaker 7: know it's it's gonna be tough to make the team
Speaker 7: if you're not able to practice. So just know that
Speaker 7: that that is being now fined if there is too
Speaker 7: much of fighting happening in these inner squad practices, scrimmages,
Speaker 7: whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 8: All right, Nick, go ahead, Yeah, the the total advantage, man,
Speaker 8: is like you said, if you're in a position battle, uh,
Speaker 8: you know we the first thirty guys. You know, you
Speaker 8: working on things, you're trying to get better as a
Speaker 8: veteran or you know, you're trying to get your steps down.
Speaker 8: But after that, man, that number thirty one on back,
Speaker 8: you're trying to make a team. You're trying to not
Speaker 8: only show the cowboys who you are, but you've got
Speaker 8: a chance to show the rams, to make impression on
Speaker 8: the RAMS. So when you get in there, every rep counts.
Speaker 8: I mean, this is where it really starts for that
Speaker 8: guy number thirty one and on out. It really starts
Speaker 8: now showing the team who you are, that the reps
Speaker 8: that they've given you to this point is deserved and
Speaker 8: that you should get more reps. You know, you've worked
Speaker 8: on your technique for the last two weeks. You conditioned
Speaker 8: and got yourself right. You basically know the offense. Everything
Speaker 8: has been installed up to this point. Now it's time
Speaker 8: for you to show them against other teams. You know
Speaker 8: what you can do, and more important to show that
Speaker 8: team that you are born against what you can do,
Speaker 8: because everybody's not gonna make the roster, so you have
Speaker 8: to be intent, uh to the point where uh it's
Speaker 8: close to the game. It's not a game, but it's
Speaker 8: close to the game. And like you say, like you say,
Speaker 8: don't don't be out of the fighting, and you should
Speaker 8: be trying to defeat this man for showing the people
Speaker 8: who you are as a football player.
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, And to piggyback on what Nate said, this
Speaker 7: is an opportunity for for good on good, right, and
Speaker 7: with the with the advent of the new.
Speaker 6: Preseason game schedule, where now.
Speaker 7: It used to be four, right, and it used to
Speaker 7: be you know, the first game, even you might have
Speaker 7: been a starter, and you might have got a series
Speaker 7: or two.
Speaker 6: In the second game you might have got a two series.
Speaker 7: And the third game was your dress rehearsal for the
Speaker 7: guys that they talking about that one through thirty, those guys,
Speaker 7: it becomes a dress rehearsal.
Speaker 6: And then the fourth preseason used to be.
Speaker 7: The Jesse Holly game right where it's where we got
Speaker 7: to find out whether you you you deserve a spot
Speaker 7: on this roster or somewhere else you get cut or
Speaker 7: whatever you know may have you Now that we have
Speaker 7: three preseason games, and now none of those one through
Speaker 7: thirty guys are pretty much playing in some of those
Speaker 7: games at all, if very small amount, if any, This
Speaker 7: is where I can get those guys some live reps
Speaker 7: and a controlled atmosphere. This is where I can go
Speaker 7: and get Dak Prescott some real looks, you know, in
Speaker 7: a game first of different coverage, because once you get
Speaker 7: into that day six, seven, eight of training camp, there's
Speaker 7: only so many defenses that Mike zim can throw at you.
Speaker 7: There's only you know, if I'm Micaeh Parson, there's only
Speaker 7: so many formations that now that the office can throw
Speaker 7: at me. So I've kind of picked up on certain
Speaker 7: things because they're still learning, Willston learning, so it's kind
Speaker 7: of only so much you can do well. Now I
Speaker 7: get an entirely different look the guys that I'm going
Speaker 7: up against, different from the guys that I've seen. The motions,
Speaker 7: the sets, all those things now are different than what
Speaker 7: I've been seeing the last couple of days.
Speaker 6: So I get a chance to work.
Speaker 7: On some of the moves that I've been working on
Speaker 7: in practice and in the off season. I get to
Speaker 7: try those moves out. You know, communication wise, that's gonna
Speaker 7: be that that's a huge advantage of having these games
Speaker 7: right because let's go defensively. The green dot guy for
Speaker 7: those to understand that when you hear the green dot guy,
Speaker 7: two players on the football field get a chance to
Speaker 7: wear the microphone helmets, the green out on the back
Speaker 7: of the helmet. That's your quarterback and that's wherever you designate.
Speaker 7: Usually it's a middle linebacker on a defense. So now
Speaker 7: Eric Kendricks is getting the calls. It How do I
Speaker 7: get my guys lined up? What are the adjustment that
Speaker 7: we're making? Is our communication clear? Is our communication precise?
Speaker 6: Is it right?
Speaker 7: Are guys getting lined up where they're supposed to be?
Speaker 7: And now are we able to execute those things that
Speaker 7: we've been practicing against our offense and vice versa our
Speaker 7: office against that defense. So the communication is going to
Speaker 7: be huge. No coaches on the football field right, get
Speaker 7: off to the sidelines. More of a game like atmosphere.
Speaker 7: What is my rotation looking like when I call eleven,
Speaker 7: when I call twelve? Twenty one personnel? Are the right
Speaker 7: people coming in and out of the game? Defensively? Are
Speaker 7: we in base?
Speaker 5: Are we in dime?
Speaker 6: Are we in nickel? Right dime?
Speaker 7: That's gonna be more defensive backs where our base package
Speaker 7: is gonna be more linebackers out there. My rotations happen
Speaker 7: in the ways that I want them to. Are guys
Speaker 7: busting coverages. So this is the event that you're able
Speaker 7: to see because the action is moving a lot faster
Speaker 7: because you have an opponent that you're facing now and
Speaker 7: they're not.
Speaker 6: Waiting for you.
Speaker 7: The rams are not gonna wait for the guys to
Speaker 7: get lined up On defense, the rams are not gonna
Speaker 7: wait for guys to get lined up on offense. It's
Speaker 7: gonna be it's gonna be setting ready to go. So
Speaker 7: that communication is absolutely critical in these moments and times.
Speaker 7: But also Tonay's point, like you said earlier, the young guys,
Speaker 7: Jayala Tobert, we've seen you have a really good excuse me,
Speaker 7: have a really good OTA's in mini camp. You've been
Speaker 7: making some plays during training camp, Brooks, all those other
Speaker 7: guys right now, what happens when you facing somebody else,
Speaker 7: right when they may give you a different look where
Speaker 7: the bullets may be a little bit flying, a little
Speaker 7: bit you know, more live or in this practice, how
Speaker 7: do you show up in those in those moments. And
Speaker 7: that's gonna take That's gonna go a long way. When
Speaker 7: it comes down to the evaluation process, there are certain positions.
Speaker 7: You know, you got guys like Maris Lulfoul. We want
Speaker 7: to see what he is, we want to see what
Speaker 7: he's We want to see. Hey, we hear you know,
Speaker 7: we're hearing coaches saying, you know, Mozzie's having a good
Speaker 7: training camp.
Speaker 6: He's doing what we ask him to do. We're still smart.
Speaker 7: All right, let's go Mozzie, let's see, are you getting
Speaker 7: off the ball or are they just selling us wolf tickets.
Speaker 7: We're gonna see now, are you pushing the pocket?
Speaker 6: You know? See?
Speaker 7: You know, for the rest of the there's gonna be
Speaker 7: some some some spots on this team that you're gonna
Speaker 7: have to look at, and now you get a chance
Speaker 7: to see him in live action.
Speaker 4: If you think about it, this is really the only
Speaker 4: time outside of just a few minutes before the games
Speaker 4: in the regular season and maybe during the off season,
Speaker 4: but then you have to travel if you want to
Speaker 4: do it. But really it's the only time and maybe
Speaker 4: Senior Bowl that that coaches actually get to, you know,
Speaker 4: network and talk and compare notes and like can walk
Speaker 4: around at practice.
Speaker 6: During different drills and stuff.
Speaker 4: And do you think they they get a lot out
Speaker 4: of it too by being able to meet up in
Speaker 4: person and actually talk shop a little bit, especially if
Speaker 4: it's somebody you're not playing that season. You can talk
Speaker 4: about what you're doing and what's working and what's not.
Speaker 4: I never really thought of it.
Speaker 8: They ain't gonna do all that.
Speaker 6: They don't do that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's just enough to get your team off that bus,
Speaker 8: get them going in the right direction. You may slap
Speaker 8: five and give a hot five and passing and you
Speaker 8: know how you know if you're on the first name
Speaker 8: basis with the wives and friends, you know, but you
Speaker 8: on the move. These practices are set up and they
Speaker 8: are on the move. I think I have a schedule
Speaker 8: I to probably share with y'all to break break down
Speaker 8: and practice normal down in distance, second third down and distance.
Speaker 8: Then you kick off, kickoff, return, move the ball twenty
Speaker 8: between the twenty and twenty five plus. You know, they
Speaker 8: they they are on the move. But I mean they
Speaker 8: can't deal it down around. They got to get off
Speaker 8: the bus, get stretched, get on the move. Because I
Speaker 8: don't wear at four, so you don't. You don't have
Speaker 8: that much time. Now, they'll probably get in earlier and
Speaker 8: the coaches will probably uh say a few things before practice.
Speaker 8: But uh, these guys are locked in. They are locked
Speaker 8: in because you know a lot of people. Remember remember
Speaker 8: we're dealing with the coaches with one year on this
Speaker 8: on this contract. You don't want to be talking to
Speaker 8: a guy that's got it. You know, he got two
Speaker 8: or three years and just renewed his thing. He's trying
Speaker 8: to get his players ready to go. Uh So it
Speaker 8: won't be a whole lot of that going on Bill Living,
Speaker 8: but not much.
Speaker 10: Okay, So is it the normal percentage of reps that
Speaker 10: the first team guys will get or is it less
Speaker 10: because you're facing more and more they'll get.
Speaker 8: They want to look at these they want to look
Speaker 8: at their first team and see what they look like.
Speaker 7: Because again, you're going to you're going to the scrimmage
Speaker 7: on Sunday, the actual they won't play that, so they'll
Speaker 7: they'll you'll see them get more. And and that's the
Speaker 7: talking about. That's the comers into that. You know that
Speaker 7: McVeigh and and and and Mike McCarthy are having Hey,
Speaker 7: how much you want to go with our ones?
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
Speaker 7: Like you know because because they may say, well, my
Speaker 7: ones are playing in the game on Saturday. On Sunday,
Speaker 7: Mike might say my ones aren't. So that conversation is
Speaker 7: kind of saying like, hey, what how do you want
Speaker 7: to do it? You know what, what's some things that
Speaker 7: you guys want to work on something?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 7: That part of it of what do we want to see?
Speaker 7: As far as periods? Do we want to see more
Speaker 7: in nine on seven? Do we want to see more
Speaker 7: in seven on seven do we want to see more
Speaker 7: one on ones red zone goal line? Those like the
Speaker 7: period talk, the football period talks are what those conversations
Speaker 7: are about, you know, and after you know, thanks for
Speaker 7: so those type of things are happening in those conversations
Speaker 7: about because you know, every team is different, and I
Speaker 7: think this is a really good look for the Cowboys
Speaker 7: because of what the the rams do, the motions, the
Speaker 7: the the the formations, the different concepts.
Speaker 6: I think this will give you. I won't give you
Speaker 6: the clearest picture.
Speaker 7: But it'll get the the the pixels will start coming
Speaker 7: together a little bit of what your defense is, right
Speaker 7: you won't you won't have it four K, but you'll
Speaker 7: be able to it'll it'll start to show itself a
Speaker 7: little bit. And that gives that gives a guy like
Speaker 7: them to kind of go back and go all right, cool,
Speaker 7: here's where we're at. Because you're gonna see guys like
Speaker 7: like uh like uh like like the rookie Carson, he's
Speaker 7: gonna get an opportunity to get out there and uh
Speaker 7: and get some reps in. You're gonna see you know,
Speaker 7: other guys, Digs will probably get some reps in to
Speaker 7: kind of see where he's at a little bit, you know,
Speaker 7: I do. I think he'll get something, whether it's one
Speaker 7: on ones or seven on seven. Now, he may not
Speaker 7: get none in the live team period, but I think
Speaker 7: he'll get some reps in there against guys like Pooka
Speaker 7: Nakua and against guys like Cooper Cup. Right, you want
Speaker 7: that good on good And if I'm Trayvon Diggs, I
Speaker 7: want it. I want to see what I stand up
Speaker 7: at him practice against Pookah and against you know, guys
Speaker 7: like Cooper Cup and and same thing if I'm if
Speaker 7: I'm Deron Blander company, I want that opportunity.
Speaker 6: And when you think about the.
Speaker 7: Approach that Al Harris takes, I think he wants it too.
Speaker 7: I think I'll what's an opportunity to go, Nah, get
Speaker 7: up there, get up there, d run. You know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying, like you, you come from you, you come
Speaker 7: from my stable. No, we're not We're not backing down
Speaker 7: because that's pooking the cool, that's Cooper Cup.
Speaker 6: Damn it, you had ten picks last year. Let's go.
Speaker 6: Let let's let's get up there and get this thing
Speaker 6: rocking and rolling.
Speaker 7: I think that competitive nature is what you want and
Speaker 7: you want to see who's gonna back down.
Speaker 6: I need to know.
Speaker 7: I need to know, you know, from from my young guys,
Speaker 7: you know who's gonna step up right?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 7: I think there are some guys who need to step
Speaker 7: up defensively. There are some guys who need to step
Speaker 7: off up offensively. And if you if you tucking your
Speaker 7: tail now, well that says more than that's that screams to.
Speaker 6: Me that you may not this may not be for you.
Speaker 4: What what percentage do you think teams actually scrimmage in
Speaker 4: the preseason?
Speaker 5: I mean in training camp.
Speaker 8: Half yeah, I'm gonna to be notorious for a lot
Speaker 8: of squads scrimmages. With the Patriots, they love it, really,
Speaker 8: they love that because they were one of the teams
Speaker 8: that didn't mind getting physical. And that's that is what
Speaker 8: the Cowboys have to start today. You know, people ask me, well,
Speaker 8: my number one thing is physical. I want to know
Speaker 8: that you can play within the whistles, within the rules
Speaker 8: with a certain amount of physicality. And that is what
Speaker 8: the Cowboys have been missing for the last twenty years,
Speaker 8: is the ability to get physical and to stay physical
Speaker 8: and to impose your will on another team.
Speaker 4: Because there's been years, they haven't scrimmaged other teams at all. Right, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: so there's some teams that don't do it. In dur
Speaker 4: training camp, I was just wondering, what if there's like
Speaker 4: half to do it, If it's more than half, if
Speaker 4: it's less than half.
Speaker 8: Well with the less and less of When the eighteenth
Speaker 8: game come, you're gonna see a whole lot of it.
Speaker 8: I mean, I think next year, in the next several years,
Speaker 8: because teams are realizing that you can control who how
Speaker 8: much a guy can get, and you can look at
Speaker 8: your starters. You can have inside runs. Say I want
Speaker 8: to I just want to see my veteran guys, fifteen
Speaker 8: plays run. You give your veter you give your vets
Speaker 8: your starter seven to eight of those reps of inside run.
Speaker 8: Did you get what you need? When you don't have
Speaker 8: to worry about the game or worry about down the distance,
Speaker 8: you just got you. It's control. I got fifteen plays
Speaker 8: here to do this right here, I got twenty plays
Speaker 8: here to just concentrate on these certain areas like the Cowboys,
Speaker 8: anything that consists of offensive line and defensive line play
Speaker 8: for the Dallas Cowboys, and where we sit right now
Speaker 8: in the lack of depth and the unknown on offense
Speaker 8: and the lack of depth no defense. Anytime you can
Speaker 8: get against the Rams team or any team for that fact,
Speaker 8: in a control situation where you can get a lot
Speaker 8: of reps, a lot of control situations where you can
Speaker 8: concentrate on those situations. This is what the Cowboys need
Speaker 8: more than anybody, expecially because their offensive defensive line.
Speaker 5: All right, let's take our first break. We went way over.
Speaker 5: But the good new conversation, it is great conversation.
Speaker 4: Good news is nobody's after us, so we might go
Speaker 4: way pastime.
Speaker 5: That we're supposed to.
Speaker 4: So speaking of, we got a our first unofficial depth
Speaker 4: chart in front of us here, which a couple of
Speaker 4: surprises to me. Not maybe not on the starting side,
Speaker 4: but maybe on the second or third guys. We'll talk
Speaker 4: about that and why he is. That's surprising, man, that's surprising.
Speaker 4: Linebackers you want linebackers, got them, boy, We got linebackers,
Speaker 4: but we don't know how good they are. But we've
Speaker 4: got some linebackers. We'll talk about that and more about
Speaker 4: the practice. The game is Sunday, all this good stuff
Speaker 4: and more, Nate, you're sticking around right, Yes, sir, all right,
Speaker 4: We'll be right back on hanging.
Speaker 5: With the boys.
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Speaker 5: A little football, a little uh, I.
Speaker 4: Guess scrimmage or not really scrimmage, but practice against another team.
Speaker 4: Is there is there an advantage or disadvantage or is
Speaker 4: it indifferent of your your intersquad scrimmaging another team and
Speaker 4: then you're playing them again on Sunday?
Speaker 6: Is there is there?
Speaker 8: The advantage is you get to get your veterans some works.
Speaker 8: That's the key to this.
Speaker 6: The team being the same team. It doesn't really matter.
Speaker 8: It's just going against now you're gonna get you. But
Speaker 8: because the rookies are not, they to get some reaps.
Speaker 8: But that's that's what Sunday game is for. Now you
Speaker 8: go see all the rookies. You get a treat if
Speaker 8: you're out here or if you can somehow stream it.
Speaker 8: You get to see the veterans get some work, you know,
Speaker 8: and and a few of the rookies, the high the
Speaker 8: high round picks, and the three of the cover, a
Speaker 8: few of the coveted free agents. If we had in it,
Speaker 8: and then then when Sunday comes you get to see
Speaker 8: all the rookies. You get to see you.
Speaker 5: Know, Jazz, are we streaming this on the website and
Speaker 5: all the.
Speaker 4: Anywhere else, just go to the website in the app
Speaker 4: and we can watch practice come thirty minutes from now.
Speaker 5: So heck yeah.
Speaker 6: And in you know what else is?
Speaker 5: See what see how much the team gets fined?
Speaker 7: You know what else is? It's kind of one of
Speaker 7: those unspoken but very loud things. What's happening anytime you
Speaker 7: have a chance to compete, Like, let's not forget the
Speaker 7: Rams are still in what still in the NFC? Right
Speaker 7: there may come a point in time where who knows,
Speaker 7: you may see them in the playoffs. And there is
Speaker 7: something about a level of competition where I want you
Speaker 7: to know today that if you and I going against
Speaker 7: each other, you can't handle me.
Speaker 5: So if you see me again, this is what you
Speaker 5: got all.
Speaker 7: When you see this face again, just known mental warfare,
Speaker 7: right one, I think, and that you know that goes
Speaker 7: for the for the for the Zach Martin's, for the
Speaker 7: for the Michael Parsons, for the tanks, for for those
Speaker 7: guys who you you know, barring any injury, you know
Speaker 7: are gonna be here when January comes. And if you
Speaker 7: got to face that guy, you want him to go back.
Speaker 7: And when they pop on that film maybe from training
Speaker 7: camp or whatever it is, those practices you want, that
Speaker 7: you want that mental rewind button is setting his head
Speaker 7: and go, oh.
Speaker 5: God, you know who you know who was really really
Speaker 5: good at that?
Speaker 6: Yes, Bryant.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he would talk so much in those inner
Speaker 4: scrimmage games.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't even I don't even know your name,
Speaker 5: but you know.
Speaker 6: What I'm saying. But that's that Camy.
Speaker 5: He can't army.
Speaker 6: That's what you want. I want.
Speaker 7: I want you to have that thought in your mind
Speaker 7: every time my name comes up, that you think about
Speaker 7: what I did to you, and that starts. That starts now.
Speaker 7: It builds a level of confidence, and especially especially if
Speaker 7: you're a younger guy and you're going up against an
Speaker 7: established guy and you win or you dominate.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say vice versa. It can boost
Speaker 5: that confidence.
Speaker 6: Confidence you know through the roof.
Speaker 7: Remember when when when when Zach Martin and and uh
Speaker 7: and Aaron Donald was going at and kind of Zach.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, he held his own. Boy.
Speaker 6: That had to boost Zach's confidence up to another level.
Speaker 7: When you're telling me this defense player of the Year
Speaker 7: and I just went and still made it and stopped
Speaker 7: the defensive player of the year that makes you feel
Speaker 7: good when you go back and go if I if.
Speaker 6: I could do that to Aaron donald Man.
Speaker 4: So you're saying they should immediately after this practice they
Speaker 4: go get their treatment everything. And you know how they
Speaker 4: have the massage room where you just just roll through
Speaker 4: the massage. They should have another room with counselors and therapists, right,
Speaker 4: because if you just get beaten to the dirt, you're
Speaker 4: gonna need that little pick me up to say, hey,
Speaker 4: you want this, And if you get a little too high,
Speaker 4: you're gonna need them to bring you down a little bit.
Speaker 5: And say, hey, come down.
Speaker 7: You might I mean, if you're I'm telling you, like,
Speaker 7: if you're a guy, if you're if you're if you're
Speaker 7: Terrence Steel and you get whooped this week, that ain't
Speaker 7: a good feeling.
Speaker 6: That ain't a good feeling for you, and that a
Speaker 6: good feeling for coaching it.
Speaker 4: Now I have to vouch for you because then you
Speaker 4: start looking over your shoulder, like, am I gonna start
Speaker 4: getting reps taken away?
Speaker 7: Like you know what I'm saying, Like they're gonna start
Speaker 7: looking around like wait a second, do we have to
Speaker 7: prepare ourselves for what?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 7: Terence is gonna show up right if you have a
Speaker 7: bad couple of days of practices and then a squad scrimmages,
Speaker 7: and that doesn't that doesn't sit that, that weight doesn't
Speaker 7: sit well with the coaches or for you, you know,
Speaker 7: if you're if you're uh, you know, if you're if
Speaker 7: you're gud young young player, he's he's gonna get some
Speaker 7: of the first team reps if he goes out there
Speaker 7: and he's getting like a turnstile shooting to getting you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, how does this confident?
Speaker 6: How does it react to that this is the big
Speaker 6: boy league?
Speaker 14: Now?
Speaker 6: Old snap, I'm not am I good enough?
Speaker 7: Now, if he goes out there and he put Paul's
Speaker 7: on somebody and and he I mean he he digs.
Speaker 5: Up the dirt with him, he feels like he belonged.
Speaker 5: So all right, good, great question for both of y'all.
Speaker 4: Nate, start with you, at what point since you were
Speaker 4: you were a free agent, what point did you realize
Speaker 4: in training camp, I belong like I can do this
Speaker 4: because both of.
Speaker 8: My uh we we we brought in Jim bet you
Speaker 8: brought him in, and we changed the style of how
Speaker 8: we played h that's when I really started feeling good.
Speaker 8: And then when they brought when Jimmy came in, they
Speaker 8: brought North in. It changed the world.
Speaker 5: So it took it took you to get that confidence.
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, he simplified the verbiage of the plays, and man,
Speaker 8: it just made a world of difference from me. I
Speaker 8: see things clear. Well, I started just uplifting some folks
Speaker 8: about then.
Speaker 5: So that's wild.
Speaker 8: It took time when jim Murky Back first got there,
Speaker 8: one of the few coaches that believed in me, and
Speaker 8: then when norf got there, made the same simple Man,
Speaker 8: we just started digging folks about of there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll say about the same my first year when
Speaker 7: I got there, because you start looking over there and
Speaker 7: it's t Masala is krit Henry is Chad Johnson, and
Speaker 7: I'm like, damn the good You start questioning yourself like
Speaker 7: am I not good?
Speaker 8: You know what I mean?
Speaker 7: And your confidence is already shaken because you don't get
Speaker 7: as many reps, especially as an undrafted guy late round
Speaker 7: drift pick. And then after that year when I got
Speaker 7: back to the Cowboys. When I got to the Cowboys,
Speaker 7: my first year with the Cowboys was my second year,
Speaker 7: I was still trying to figure my you know, my
Speaker 7: way through gaining some confidence and like trying to really
Speaker 7: And it was in my third.
Speaker 6: Year I was like, oh, no, I belong, but I can.
Speaker 6: I can. There's not a guy out here that I can't.
Speaker 6: I can't go.
Speaker 7: You know, I'm not saying that I'm a Hall of Famer,
Speaker 7: but you ain't gonna just You're not gonna just do
Speaker 7: what you want to me right, No, you know, for us,
Speaker 7: it was you know, I could I could get some
Speaker 7: reps off on Terrace Newman, on Mike Jenkins or Island
Speaker 7: Ball or you know what I'm saying, Like, you just
Speaker 7: you're not gonna just do what you want to be like,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: It wasn't until my third.
Speaker 7: Year that I fully would like I was walking in
Speaker 7: with I was walking in cross first, then in confidence level,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: At first, Yeah, that first those first year and a half, I.
Speaker 7: Was talking that, I was talking it it was tucked.
Speaker 7: I was like, yeah, I was like, you know, I'm
Speaker 7: I'm gonna stay over here. But by that third year,
Speaker 7: I would walk across first.
Speaker 8: Yes, when when when I played, but I want to
Speaker 8: see if this is kind of similar with you, because
Speaker 8: you said that when you came in, you you looked
Speaker 8: at guys nobody can handle you. But you know, when
Speaker 8: I when I first walked when the league, I used
Speaker 8: to watch guys a wide receiver and sometime an offensive line,
Speaker 8: a defensive line, but the defense most they would just
Speaker 8: shut guys down, like they just couldn't even get off
Speaker 8: the ball. I don't see that anymore. I don't see
Speaker 8: it where Trayvon Diggs are playing to just walk up
Speaker 8: to the line. The dude just can't even get off
Speaker 8: the line. Was that still kind of prevalent when you
Speaker 8: was balling? Yeah, the guys just could not even get
Speaker 8: off the line. It's like take the herd off the start.
Speaker 6: It happened to me.
Speaker 7: Jonathan Joseph j Joe from from cornerback putting in South
Speaker 7: Carolina was played a long time in the league for
Speaker 7: the Texans. For the Jonathan Joseph, he walked up to
Speaker 7: me and he put hands on me, and it was
Speaker 7: nothing I could do.
Speaker 6: And I was sitting there and you're frustrating.
Speaker 7: It was it was it was embarrassing, like, yes, because
Speaker 7: they laugh at you, didn't you know what happened on
Speaker 7: the field, like on the field and then you know what,
Speaker 7: watch it. And then once they leave theirs and now
Speaker 7: you all reconvene again in the locker room after they've
Speaker 7: been defense offensive meetings and they're like, damn sixteen, damn
Speaker 7: twelve Joe jock Joe up. You're like, hey, come on, man,
Speaker 7: let's not let's not do this. You know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 7: let's let's you know, let's not, let's not do this.
Speaker 7: But you know, on the same flip side, you when
Speaker 7: you get when you get off.
Speaker 6: On somebody else, you you like, hey, y'all watched that
Speaker 6: off hilm Oh.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm telling you, man, that's so one time. Man,
Speaker 8: we ran the right just abuse some folks, man, I
Speaker 8: mean he just shot him down. I mean I was
Speaker 8: saying to my man and they're like, man, you make
Speaker 8: it some work getting Randy tomorrow. I'm like, man, you.
Speaker 7: Sure, I'll give you another funny one. He's on the
Speaker 7: staff now. He probably he came over with coach Gunther
Speaker 7: uh uh Peka. He's a defensive line assistant, Dimico Peca.
Speaker 7: He's someone will do long hair.
Speaker 8: You'll see that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, my rookie, my rookie year.
Speaker 6: He's on we're doing punt.
Speaker 7: I'm on the wing at punt and he's lining across
Speaker 7: from me and I'm like, okay, I do my little
Speaker 7: kickstep back, and he ran into me and literally literally
Speaker 7: he just picked me up. He like grabbed me here,
Speaker 7: picked me up and set me in the lap of
Speaker 7: the punter like literally, come, you gotta block him. I'm like,
Speaker 7: all right, let's let's have this conversation. Like he's three
Speaker 7: hundred pounds. How three hundred pounds some moe coming.
Speaker 8: At you career?
Speaker 6: That ain't nothing nice, bro.
Speaker 7: And he he had like a year or two already
Speaker 7: in the league and he just literally picked me up
Speaker 7: and ushered me back into the backfield where the punter
Speaker 7: was at and set me in the punter's lap as
Speaker 7: he was kicking the like trying to kick the ball.
Speaker 7: And I'm like, let's have this conversation, h Coach Simmons,
Speaker 7: How how do you.
Speaker 6: Expect me to block this?
Speaker 8: Dude?
Speaker 6: Like how you know what?
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 6: You better figure it out. And you're me on the
Speaker 6: street and I'm like, all right, this this is what
Speaker 6: I gotta say.
Speaker 8: You didn't look up at.
Speaker 7: No, Yeah, I did look at the rock cord and
Speaker 7: I cut him the next time, and then I get
Speaker 7: yelled at for cutting them. He's like, you don't cut
Speaker 7: your team. And I'm like, you haven't given me a
Speaker 7: real little explanation on how to block this three and
Speaker 7: the pound to fifth to tackle as one hundred and fifteen,
Speaker 7: I mean a two and.
Speaker 6: Fifteen pound receiver.
Speaker 7: And he's and he has no responsibility but to walk
Speaker 7: me back into the punter like you better figure.
Speaker 6: It out, you better shot shot him.
Speaker 5: I'm like, TI, man, all right, let's take our next break.
Speaker 4: When we come back, tell me why we have twelve
Speaker 4: linebackers on the roster, and let's.
Speaker 6: Look at I have a great answer for that.
Speaker 4: Good and a couple of spots on this unofficial depth chart.
Speaker 6: I have questions or just points.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I have a great day. Man. Oh no, I'll
Speaker 8: say you. I'll just give your ass on the pitch
Speaker 8: the two linebackers.
Speaker 4: All right, okay, all right, see you in a minute
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Speaker 4: Training Camp live actually won't be live today, It'll be
Speaker 4: on demand. I guess maybe there's something going on where
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Speaker 5: Too much stuff or something I don't know, probably, Oh yeah,
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Speaker 5: All right, before, Nate, which part do you want to
Speaker 5: participate in?
Speaker 4: Yes, before we look at before we look at the
Speaker 4: unofficial depth chart.
Speaker 5: Why do we have twelve linebackers on staff?
Speaker 7: Well, there's a there's a number of reasons. One is,
Speaker 7: you were so linebacker depleted last year and you you
Speaker 7: had nowhere to You had no answers, there were no
Speaker 7: good ones left on the street, you had nowhere to go.
Speaker 7: That's how you got involved in that whole safety situation
Speaker 7: that they had to deal with last year. So now's
Speaker 7: the time when you let's load up. Let's load up
Speaker 7: on these guys. The other reason is when you think about,
Speaker 7: excuse me, when you think about how and why I
Speaker 7: build my team everybody in every division, every conference. You
Speaker 7: build your team to beat the teams in your division. Right,
Speaker 7: and then that roster you hope is formidable enough to
Speaker 7: have to face those other guy that you may see
Speaker 7: in the playoffs, Well who is?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I know, people say the Giants and the Washington they're
Speaker 7: not our rivals, right, it's Philadelphia.
Speaker 6: What does Philadelphia?
Speaker 7: Oh what will Philadelphia be doing a lot of this
Speaker 7: upcoming season? Remember they got say Kwon Barkley in the
Speaker 7: backfield now, right, They're gonna try to.
Speaker 6: Run the football on the Cowboys.
Speaker 7: So if we're planning on winning the division, we first
Speaker 7: have to beat the teams within that. So you build
Speaker 7: your team in a way that's going to be able
Speaker 7: to defeat the team that brings you or could cause
Speaker 7: you the most trouble. Philadelphia right now, for.
Speaker 10: Us, we're bringing so many guys in there, aren't you
Speaker 10: kind of saying we don't like the guys.
Speaker 6: We have no cutting reps for guys.
Speaker 7: No you want to get I want I want enough
Speaker 7: guys to be in the building.
Speaker 6: I want enough guys to be around.
Speaker 7: I want enough guys because what ends up happening against
Speaker 7: some of those guys will then trickle down to the
Speaker 7: practice squad.
Speaker 6: And in the event that I have.
Speaker 7: To circle back around at some point in time of
Speaker 7: the season, I have a clear understanding of what guys know,
Speaker 7: what we do. Remember when new defensive coordinators come in,
Speaker 7: new linebackers, coaches come in, there are guys who they've
Speaker 7: been with at other places that they've liked for some
Speaker 7: reason or another that they bring those guys in. Remember,
Speaker 7: we're not talking about Mike McCarthy. We're talking about Zim,
Speaker 7: We're talking about Gunther, We're talking about all these other
Speaker 7: guys who have now come into the fold here. All
Speaker 7: these guys have been to these different places and they've
Speaker 7: seen and been around guys that they've scouted, that they've coached,
Speaker 7: that they've been around, that they like for whatever reason.
Speaker 7: And then the third reason was what I talked about before.
Speaker 7: After the Hall of Fame game, this new kickoff, it's
Speaker 7: gonna be critical. The days of having the three hundred
Speaker 7: pound dudes and that kickoff is done. I need guys
Speaker 7: who have size and able to have the fluidity to
Speaker 7: move around I need. I need more linebackers. I need
Speaker 7: more tight ends. I need more safeties and receivers because
Speaker 7: these are the guys that are gonna have to play
Speaker 7: those open field spaces. Because in those tight quarters, I
Speaker 7: need you to be able to engage a block, be
Speaker 7: used to engaging a block and shedding a block and
Speaker 7: getting to the ball carry Because the kickoff now becomes
Speaker 7: more like a run play than a kickoff. So I
Speaker 7: want people on my team who are familiar with the
Speaker 7: principles and techniques of stopping a run play well.
Speaker 4: Between your linebackers and your tight ends. You can damn
Speaker 4: near field too full football team.
Speaker 14: But that's what I'm telling you, guys, seven tight ends
Speaker 14: on the road. This is the reason you need these
Speaker 14: type of players. I need enough guys who have size
Speaker 14: and the understanding of blocking in space, and I need
Speaker 14: guys with size who understand how to get off blocks
Speaker 14: in space. That tells you that I need more linebackers
Speaker 14: and more tight end if we're going to be able.
Speaker 14: Because this kickoff, in my personal opinion, is a guy
Speaker 14: who played course special teams. This is going to determine
Speaker 14: a more games than you will believe this year, because
Speaker 14: once guys figure out how to get past that first tackle,
Speaker 14: he gone, he gone, and.
Speaker 8: Let him check this out. Kurt, you say, all the
Speaker 8: good guys that bring it back is overshot Damon Clark
Speaker 8: who everybody else is new so they were so depleted
Speaker 8: last year too. We don't have any of those guys
Speaker 8: from last year at all. They either moved back to
Speaker 8: safety or have been released. And you only have Overshown
Speaker 8: and Damon Clark. So they needed a bunch of guys.
Speaker 8: I ain't saying they needed anymore, you know, not counting
Speaker 8: Michael Farsi's but they needed some guys. And what Jesse
Speaker 8: is saying is so true. We will uh, some people
Speaker 8: will master this new these new rules and take advantage
Speaker 8: of it.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, you got some looking at the
Speaker 4: depth chart, you got some cool names on the team
Speaker 4: this year.
Speaker 5: I don't know if i've ever seen this many.
Speaker 4: You got Racy McMath, you got Sheldrick RedWine, Tony Buddy,
Speaker 4: Buddy Johnson. I mean that's just a good old name
Speaker 4: right there, Buddy Johnson, right Reduce vomb Last year, I mean.
Speaker 6: You got some cool You got Snoop Connor Snoop.
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean you got some names on here.
Speaker 4: So looking looking at this depth chart, a couple of
Speaker 4: things jumped out, not really jumped out, and they're not
Speaker 4: really unexpected, but it's interesting to actually see it. You know,
Speaker 4: in print is you got you know, Tyler Guiden's backing
Speaker 4: up Idoga, and then you got awesome Richards's your third
Speaker 4: at left tackle. And then you've got Ferguson schoonmaker, and
Speaker 4: then Hindershot and then John Stevens is behind him, and
Speaker 4: then you got three other tight ends. But the one
Speaker 4: thing we talked about on the show yesterday that's gonna
Speaker 4: be interesting. You know, got Marquis Bell backing up Donovan
Speaker 4: Wilson at safety is where they have Deuce Bong right,
Speaker 4: and you talked about this the other day, Jesse. They
Speaker 4: have him as the one, two, three, four of the
Speaker 4: fifth running back, and then they've got him as the
Speaker 4: third option at kick returner, the third option at punk returner.
Speaker 4: They have Cavante Turpin as your you know, your first
Speaker 4: kick returner punk returner. Then he got Rico on kick returns,
Speaker 4: Jalen Cropper on punk returns.
Speaker 6: And Induced behind them.
Speaker 4: So it's going to be he got some he's got
Speaker 4: He better be like that Olympic sprinter and kick it
Speaker 4: in the gear here at the end of training camp, or.
Speaker 8: He better have a good really better kick it in
Speaker 8: the gear today. Last two days he's been out. No
Speaker 8: better kick it into gear today. It starts for number
Speaker 8: thirty one and beyond it starts to date it goes.
Speaker 8: They had two lackluster practices the last two days before
Speaker 8: so a lot of these guys.
Speaker 5: Both sides of the ball.
Speaker 8: Pick it up right now, both sides of the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 8: both sides of the ball. But offense is kind of
Speaker 8: starting to catch up with the defense now, Parsons, nobody's
Speaker 8: maybe the block Parsons in the last two days. He's
Speaker 8: not practiced full practices. But when then they let him
Speaker 8: in practice, he's wrecked practice. No matter which tackle was
Speaker 8: out there, they were non existent. So and besides him
Speaker 8: good or that's bad. That's bad because we need for
Speaker 8: our offices line to be consistent and they need to
Speaker 8: pick it up, and they need to start two days
Speaker 8: at two o'clock West Coast time.
Speaker 4: Anything jump out to you, guys off the unofficial first
Speaker 4: depth chart.
Speaker 6: Anything.
Speaker 10: It's not a big deal because he's always been a
Speaker 10: defensive end. I think that's the.
Speaker 8: First Yeah they got in the left starting Yeah. That
Speaker 8: that that's that jumps out at me. You think we
Speaker 8: need for Gutting to hurry up and get some vic
Speaker 8: sads and a hot tower around and come on back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you, Kurt. That that stood out to
Speaker 4: me too. They actually have Michael listened at the defensive end.
Speaker 4: After you heard all the talk of the off season
Speaker 4: that he's going to play linebacker.
Speaker 8: And if I'm gonna play a lot of linebacker, but
Speaker 8: they're not, they're gonna steal you. Move them around. They
Speaker 8: move him around out here a lot. Maybe the man's linebacker. Yeah,
Speaker 8: they trying to figure out ways. Yeah, but he's still
Speaker 8: who he is.
Speaker 4: Maybe they put him there so it wasn't thirteen linebackers
Speaker 4: and look crazy.
Speaker 7: I'm telling you right now, if I'm Michael Parsons and
Speaker 7: any depth chart comes out and it says my name
Speaker 7: next to linebacker, I'm hot in the office, I'm one.
Speaker 7: Because this is the just foreshadowing get paid. This is
Speaker 7: where the Jones play the game at right. Oh no, youbacker? Yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm telling you this is what this is.
Speaker 5: When the franchise tag two years from now comes into.
Speaker 11: This is what.
Speaker 6: This is where the game is played. This is where
Speaker 6: the game is played because they.
Speaker 7: Gonna look up and go, well, this year you play
Speaker 7: seventy five percent snaps as a linebacker, and that goes
Speaker 7: from you being a forty million dollars a year player,
Speaker 7: a thirty million dollars a year player from a lot
Speaker 7: of I'm just telling you these these are you know
Speaker 7: what we said that same thing about CD said the
Speaker 7: same thing about Dak. Here we are having a conversation
Speaker 7: three weeks in the training camp and either one of
Speaker 7: these guys have gotten paid.
Speaker 4: You know what's really interesting is this offseason, like I
Speaker 4: feel like Dak's been this the same guy for the
Speaker 4: last two to three years. Right, He's a really good
Speaker 4: top seven quarterback. Is maybe it's just my feed is
Speaker 4: adjusted to maybe it listens to us on this show,
Speaker 4: but seeing a lot of guys come out saying he's
Speaker 4: the top two, three, you know, three, four or five quarterback,
Speaker 4: now like he's gone from that top he's a fringe
Speaker 4: top ten to you know, he's in that top five
Speaker 4: conversation that obviously he's not gonna be one, two or three.
Speaker 6: I mean his his regular season numbers.
Speaker 7: He was the runner up, second or third in the
Speaker 7: second second in the MVP votings this year. That says
Speaker 7: enough about him. The biggest thing is we've never had
Speaker 7: the conversation about Dak not being able to do what
Speaker 7: he's supposed to do in the regular.
Speaker 6: Season this postseason.
Speaker 7: It's always been about the postseason. It's always and and
Speaker 7: you think that, and the thing is is that some
Speaker 7: of it is because of him, and some of it isn't. Yeah,
Speaker 7: And that's the biggest thing is that if if, if,
Speaker 7: all goes well, and and that that's the gift and
Speaker 7: the curse of being the quarterback for whatever team. Especially
Speaker 7: if all goes well, you get the praise and the
Speaker 7: credit of this team quarterback d D.
Speaker 5: But when it don't go well, it's all your fault.
Speaker 6: It's your fault.
Speaker 8: Let me say this, fellers. If this kid have like
Speaker 8: twelve or thirteen sacks, we have a couple of interceptions,
Speaker 8: and he have a couple of funder recoverers. This kid
Speaker 8: getting paid, so we can't we say whatever was paying.
Speaker 8: Some teams have a history like the fist very still no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 6: I agree, he's getting paid. Who's paid?
Speaker 8: Now he's gonna he's gonna get paid.
Speaker 6: Who is paying? That's that's the part I want you
Speaker 6: to answer.
Speaker 5: Here's somewhere else.
Speaker 8: It don't matter. The bottom line is this. The Cowboys
Speaker 8: has a history of in the end they cracked. If
Speaker 8: this was the Stealers, we will be having a different conversation.
Speaker 8: That's just how it is. Some teams say, no, we
Speaker 8: ain't paying you and they mean that. But the cowboys say,
Speaker 8: we ain't paying you. See, you can sit out all
Speaker 8: you want, We ain't paying you. What happened, y'all paid him? Okay,
Speaker 8: this what still pay Lamb and sitting home, uh, running
Speaker 8: around having fun, eating peanuts, whatever he does for excitement? Okay,
Speaker 8: if he's not here, if he's not here for excitement
Speaker 8: first reckless season games, then I would say I would say,
Speaker 8: you know what, y'all, I was wrong. But guess what, y'all,
Speaker 8: I think he'll be here to Dak is already in camp,
Speaker 8: so you know, until you showed me something different, I'm
Speaker 8: gonna believe that they'll be here.
Speaker 4: What's good to see that Dak's actually getting some recognition
Speaker 4: that we've all.
Speaker 5: Been giving him nationally in other places.
Speaker 6: All Right, we gotta go. We're way way over.
Speaker 10: But you know, what are you looking for Sunday?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you know what, Let's go another seven minutes
Speaker 5: as well. Nobody's after us. There's no there's no practice
Speaker 5: on him to watch the rest.
Speaker 13: Chest tired?
Speaker 5: You tired, Jazz?
Speaker 6: Can we keep going? All right, we'll go for a
Speaker 6: few moments.
Speaker 5: What was the question, Kurk, What are we looking for Saturday.
Speaker 10: First preseason game Sunday. What should we expect? What should
Speaker 10: we be on the lookout for?
Speaker 6: I always look.
Speaker 8: I mean, I am so glad that I'm saying this,
Speaker 8: and they won't have and it won't be that old nation.
Speaker 8: We better find out who our five to five starters
Speaker 8: is on that offensive line, and we better find some
Speaker 8: depth on that defensive line. This is the truth. This
Speaker 8: is what it is all about. It don't matter who
Speaker 8: the eighth receiver is and who the tenth tight end
Speaker 8: and who the twelfth linebacker. If the offensive defensive lines
Speaker 8: have no depth or no continuity, it won't matter. We'll
Speaker 8: be saying at the end of the year, Well, you know,
Speaker 8: the Cowboys couldn't run, and the Cowboys didn't stop to run.
Speaker 8: That's what we'll be hollished. They better find out that
Speaker 8: real quick today.
Speaker 10: Let a guy like Hoffmann play even though he's your
Speaker 10: first stringer, or they let him play.
Speaker 6: I don't you know what.
Speaker 8: He better get all he can today because I think
Speaker 8: they'll put him in the game Sunday. He better get
Speaker 8: every rep he can today because he won't play Sunday.
Speaker 7: See that's the part where and I'm not a coach.
Speaker 7: And I'm not intelligent enough to be a coach. I'm
Speaker 7: telling him to be a coach. I'm not patient enough
Speaker 7: to be a coach or want to be a coach.
Speaker 7: But I look at guys, well, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, you've been coaching people that stick their fingers nickeled
Speaker 4: deep in their nose and in the eyes.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't consider that coach.
Speaker 7: And I just considered that being I'm just the biggest
Speaker 7: baby sit that they've ever seen.
Speaker 6: That's all that was. I gotta get you some new players.
Speaker 7: But to Nate's point, I look at this offensive line,
Speaker 7: and let's take Zach Martin. Let's lift him up and
Speaker 7: let's move him to the side, because he doesn't count.
Speaker 7: There's not a guy this offensive line who doesn't need reps.
Speaker 7: There's not one guy on this turn Still, Brothers, you
Speaker 7: need reps. Kaufman, Kaufman, brock Hoffman, Tyler b Coller, Bebe
Speaker 7: Cooper beb.
Speaker 6: You need reps.
Speaker 7: Right, Tyler you need like TJ. Bass you need reps. Awesome,
Speaker 7: Tyler Guitton too much. All of you need reps. So
Speaker 7: like I take, I take Zach Martin, and I go
Speaker 7: listen here.
Speaker 6: Big fellow.
Speaker 7: Uh, there's a bucket hat. There's Twizzlers, sunflower seeds all
Speaker 7: over here, this gatorade and that cooler. You're you're not playing,
Speaker 7: but I can't. I can't see a guy on this
Speaker 7: offensive line. Matt wilesko on these reps, Josh baal in
Speaker 7: these reps, like everybody on this offensive line, starters and
Speaker 7: or backups, however you want to position them. They need reps.
Speaker 7: They should be playing in those games. I don't know
Speaker 7: why we're not playing them in this game like they
Speaker 7: should be. Kyler Goidon should throw up from having so
Speaker 7: many reps.
Speaker 6: He just what you draft him for. Did you draft
Speaker 6: in the plane or not?
Speaker 7: The only way you get better if you're cutting grass,
Speaker 7: cutting hair, doing nails, collecting garbage, fixing brakes, paving the roads,
Speaker 7: or playing football, the only way you get better is
Speaker 7: rep a titian. That's it. And for these guys, they
Speaker 7: don't have enough. Again, I take Zach Martin and I
Speaker 7: put him to the side. This is this is a
Speaker 7: guy who has more Pro Bowls and he has holding calls.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. He's good, he's repped up,
Speaker 7: he's all right. The rest of these guys, you need
Speaker 7: every rep. You need the practice and in these games,
Speaker 7: So I don't think there should be a guy excluded
Speaker 7: from the offensive line when it comes down to reps.
Speaker 7: No one else excepts Zach Martin has proven himself to
Speaker 7: be worthy of going to the sideline in a bucket
Speaker 7: cap and and and sunflower seats.
Speaker 4: All right, question for you, because we always say it matters.
Speaker 4: Does winning this game matter?
Speaker 6: No, okay, you want to know it doesn't matter.
Speaker 5: Does winning a preseason game matter?
Speaker 6: Do you need to win one?
Speaker 11: Well?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean when the season starts, we need to
Speaker 8: be Cleveland. That's our first pre season game and it's
Speaker 8: a shame a terrible Police game.
Speaker 5: So you're fine with going Owen.
Speaker 6: Well, they have three p three.
Speaker 8: For preseason that nobody cares. The players don't care. Only
Speaker 8: ship don't care. Nobody care.
Speaker 4: You're you're fans that know nothing about football care because
Speaker 4: they actually get upset when you don't win a preseason game.
Speaker 8: That's okay, that's because that's because we haven't given no
Speaker 8: great uh. But nowly it'sis on our players here in
Speaker 8: the Police preseason.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry if I offended anyone by saying you care
Speaker 4: about preseason football, but I do liters but lose bad.
Speaker 7: Who's playing right? Is the second third string guys players?
Speaker 7: Like that's the thing. It's like, all right, true a
Speaker 7: lot of you And I don't mean to sound in sensitive.
Speaker 7: I was one of those guys, but that's what I
Speaker 7: said about me. Some of y'all won't be here anyway.
Speaker 7: Oh we're good. But the one thing that I do
Speaker 7: want to see in this game for me and Nate
Speaker 7: hit on it earlier, and I've been saying this since
Speaker 7: all off season. Where's the physicality? I need to be
Speaker 7: able and not dirty. I don't need to see dirty.
Speaker 7: I don't need to see penalties like that's not physical
Speaker 7: to me. That's stupid, right, It's one thing that you
Speaker 7: hit a guy late that that don't make you physical, My.
Speaker 6: Boy, that makes you stupid.
Speaker 7: Because now you've got a fifteen year penalty on third
Speaker 7: and on third and whatever it is, and you can
Speaker 7: find at the preseason game that's that's even more dumb.
Speaker 7: You're getting money taken away before you even get the
Speaker 7: check for the season. But I want to see is
Speaker 7: there a level of physicality? Does it feel different? Does
Speaker 7: it look like this team it's identity, it's going to
Speaker 7: be defensively where I it needs to be. This team
Speaker 7: has been a for next team for a very long time.
Speaker 7: And when I say physical, I don't mean like, well,
Speaker 7: Tank is a physical dude. That doesn't make the defense physical.
Speaker 7: That makes Tank physical. I need to be a collective
Speaker 7: across the board. This needs to be the identity. There
Speaker 7: needs to be the way guys are flying to the football.
Speaker 7: They're flying to the football with reckless abandon with with
Speaker 7: with with intention to hurt people within the whistle. That's
Speaker 7: what I want to see and and I'm going to
Speaker 7: be able to tell if that's a part of the
Speaker 7: conversation that's happened with Zim and company and in the
Speaker 7: preseting game.
Speaker 6: And I don't care who's in there.
Speaker 7: I don't care who's in there because it's no different
Speaker 7: when we talk about, you know, if a team is
Speaker 7: sloppy or penalty wise, I don't care who's in there
Speaker 7: because if they're sloppy, that means that's allowed at practice, right,
Speaker 7: that's that's allowed. That's not that's not policed properly. And
Speaker 7: then no matter if you're a first dring or second
Speaker 7: thing or third third stringer, if you there's a sloppy
Speaker 7: brand of football, a lot of penalties and stuff like that.
Speaker 7: Someone's not being coached twelve, there's not the right coaching
Speaker 7: is not happening. So I want to see if there's
Speaker 7: gonna be a level of physicality from from the guys
Speaker 7: that will be playing in this sermons on Sunday.
Speaker 4: Good point, All right, nay, we made you work for
Speaker 4: your money, your ten dollars today.
Speaker 5: You've been getting out of here early, getting off.
Speaker 6: It's all good.
Speaker 7: That break that bike, seat that bike, cushing you to break.
Speaker 6: For right now? We're good.
Speaker 5: Well, Jesse will be out there with you tomorrow.
Speaker 6: So get ready, get ready to.
Speaker 5: Put on the back of your bike, drive the one.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you right now, here's what you never
Speaker 6: wait a second thing, Wait a second night, Wait a
Speaker 6: second mate.
Speaker 7: One thing you never have to worry about is me
Speaker 7: ever asking for a ride on your motorcycle. I ain't
Speaker 7: getting on the back of nobody bike with no man.
Speaker 7: You'll never have to worry about me getting.
Speaker 6: On that bike.
Speaker 8: Okay, all right, I don't want you riding hold on
Speaker 8: to my He'll see there.
Speaker 6: You go, finish your statement, g from Jersey.
Speaker 8: You want to see from this point on we don't
Speaker 8: want Kurt mentioning any player's name. No, be back off
Speaker 8: of what somebody else said. Don't mention a player's name. Okay,
Speaker 8: let us bring.
Speaker 5: It up and then you can talk about it.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think is that the.
Speaker 4: Curse is only really in person, though you can say
Speaker 4: it as long as they're not in the room.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 5: If they're in the same room as Kurt, that's when
Speaker 5: we have problems. So so, Jesse, you're out.
Speaker 7: You're out tomorrow, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, So you'll miss the show.
Speaker 6: Monday, but you'll be back.
Speaker 8: He'll be doing the show, he'll Monday.
Speaker 5: We need to figure out how we're gonna do that,
Speaker 5: because that's gonna be a terrible show.
Speaker 6: If y'all are calling in, you're gonna stand right next
Speaker 6: to each other.
Speaker 8: We may we're making we'll make it. Do it when
Speaker 8: Jess get in. How about if we do it when
Speaker 8: Jesse get in? What time you get in jets Tomorrow?
Speaker 8: No Monday, I'm leaving them.
Speaker 6: What you mean.
Speaker 8: You get back to Dallas.
Speaker 5: Oh no, he'll be out there.
Speaker 6: I'll be out there Monday.
Speaker 5: He didn't come back till Tuesday. We got the show.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, but Kurt, come on out, and we'll just
Speaker 8: bave Shining out of the show.
Speaker 5: What if I come out, we leave Kurt out of
Speaker 5: the show.
Speaker 8: Oh, that'll be even better.
Speaker 13: No, no, no, no, right, oh my god.
Speaker 5: If he came to camp and saw him all in person.
Speaker 5: We need more than twelve live after.
Speaker 8: All.
Speaker 4: Right, we'll figure it out. Monday, we'll have a show.
Speaker 4: We just don't know what it will looks like, so
Speaker 4: tune the monday. We will be back then, go football,
Speaker 4: hanging with the boys. Good seeing you Jesse, Good seeing
Speaker 4: your Kurt, Nate. Great to hear your voice. Jazz, thanks
Speaker 4: for keeping us on the air.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Does that guy what's his.
Speaker 6: Name, Jorge?
Speaker 5: Does he even do anything with our show anymore? Is
Speaker 5: he too big time?
Speaker 6: Now? He still put us up?
Speaker 5: He Jazz?
Speaker 4: Who puts us up on all the social channels in
Speaker 4: the website and all that?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 6: Who who's that?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 4: Okay, it's still the same dude. Okay, Well, thanks, thanks Sah.
Speaker 4: We'll be back on Monday.
Speaker 5: Y'all have a good weekend.
Speaker 6: Well.
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