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Speaker 1: go exactly, Sinam, So you ready the whole show with us? Yes,
Speaker 1: this is not your first time, second time I've been here,
Speaker 1: but I love you all right. We was just talking
Speaker 1: off came right before we started about the lensa app.
Speaker 1: The Apple turns your simple pictures into literal works of art.
Speaker 1: And you already did it. You haven't yet got seven bucks, right,
Speaker 1: you gotta do it's it's a free trial and then
Speaker 1: you gotta pay seven dollars and give you two photos
Speaker 1: for seven bucks. And it takes about forty minutes. I
Speaker 1: just did it with my dad, and I swear the
Speaker 1: art is crazy. Yeah, this how would be if I
Speaker 1: was an astronaut. I was against it until you guys
Speaker 1: just made it kind of fun. You feed it ten
Speaker 1: photos and and you'll never get the same photo twice.
Speaker 1: I might do it again with my pops and do
Speaker 1: another another two hundred. I pretty wondered how these app
Speaker 1: like how something blows up overnight like that. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: just came out of nowhere to nowhere. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I think what I think happened was I think the
Speaker 1: company debuted at Art Basel. That's what I think, because
Speaker 1: everybody kept talking about it at Art Bassel, and I
Speaker 1: think that was very smart, and it because their AI
Speaker 1: generated photos and I was like, everybody was like where
Speaker 1: they getting as art art bassl art Bassil And then
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, they must have dropped it, or
Speaker 1: they must have talked about it the art Bassil and
Speaker 1: then that's smartest, smartest hell if they did that, yeah
Speaker 1: that's what it is. Or somebody started using it there
Speaker 1: because I saw people posting my art bass and I
Speaker 1: was like, where people getting all these different virtu of
Speaker 1: these photos and says Ai, it's like AI art and
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, that's dope. So I've seen a
Speaker 1: couple of people that the photos look terrible listen or
Speaker 1: they don't look like look like thank giving the right photo. Well,
Speaker 1: did you guys see Keki Palmer is pregnant. Yes, I
Speaker 1: didn't even know if she was in a relationship. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's been in the relation. You know. That's the absolute
Speaker 1: homie that. She's one of the first artists I worked with.
Speaker 1: I actually produced a record of her debut album on
Speaker 1: atlant Stop. The sweetest person. She got cool vibes every time.
Speaker 1: I love her ascension, I love her ride like like
Speaker 1: she's the woman she's become. She's grown into herself, confident,
Speaker 1: all the people she's doing. I'd love to see it
Speaker 1: because you know, sometimes people don't grow up, right. I
Speaker 1: was just about to say that at the camera. I
Speaker 1: was just about to say that people that grow up
Speaker 1: and kids as kids in front of us, and I
Speaker 1: believe it a little cool because it's tough to be.
Speaker 1: But she has done a great job. Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: says she's single. Guys, did you see her Twitter? I
Speaker 1: don't believe. I think it's for promotion. I think it's
Speaker 1: for promotion too. To the Twitter and how she reposting.
Speaker 1: You know everybody you know with the heartbro, this is
Speaker 1: not real what you guys are saying. I'm already is
Speaker 1: not single man. She was just on the show. She
Speaker 1: was confessing her love for this man. You think that
Speaker 1: she said when he gets out of jail. She's not.
Speaker 1: She's gonna shut everything down. She's staying down because her
Speaker 1: boyfriend is in jail for a time, but for prison,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, a very long time. Okay, So why she
Speaker 1: single all of a sudden, I don't know. Oh, okay.
Speaker 1: Nike officially drops Kyrie. What do you guys think about
Speaker 1: y'all know he has a very popular signature. Shoot a
Speaker 1: lot of the young ballers for real, that ball and
Speaker 1: who they always use Kyrie Irvin signature Shoo was really
Speaker 1: good for agile guards. What do you guys think about this?
Speaker 1: You're not gonna answer, sir. I mean it's unfortunate, but
Speaker 1: I mean it's the it's the world we live in.
Speaker 1: I think. UM. I always say free speech isn't really free. Um,
Speaker 1: their consequences and so every he didn't say anything. Everybody
Speaker 1: has the right to retweeted. He didn't say nothing here.
Speaker 1: A tweet and a retweet is saying something though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. I think it's unfortunate because
Speaker 1: I feel like, and I'm not gonna I am gonna
Speaker 1: blame this on Kanye. He wouldn't have posted that. If
Speaker 1: Kanye would have never said what he said, Kyrie would
Speaker 1: have never shared that link. And you know, it's not
Speaker 1: like he just woke up and said I'm a post
Speaker 1: he broke he Brews to me grows just you know,
Speaker 1: do that and I'm not. You know, It's just unfortunate
Speaker 1: that all this this Kanye stuff is just sweeping people up,
Speaker 1: been to a bunch of mess. Yeah, Kanye is definitely
Speaker 1: taking over the media. I mean I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like nowadays, these companies just try to find
Speaker 1: any way to save money. I feel like, I feel
Speaker 1: like if you say anything, if you you know, if
Speaker 1: you trip over the wrong baby or anybody, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, we're you're getting dropped. Yeah. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean this is what I want to talk about real quick.
Speaker 1: We often say that we get penalized for saying things
Speaker 1: in the media and then people get you know, lose
Speaker 1: their deals and stuff like that. But I think there
Speaker 1: are just as many, just as many of those we see.
Speaker 1: We see people lose their jobs and corporations that call
Speaker 1: people the N word or use racial story like somebody
Speaker 1: Jess got somebody Jess got fired. I was gonna share
Speaker 1: it too. They like like the girl that told the
Speaker 1: uber driver like he was a slave moving for life,
Speaker 1: and I think she got fired. While remember the girl
Speaker 1: and the girl in college. I can't remember what college
Speaker 1: she was calling. She was drunk, it was called, and
Speaker 1: she got kicked out of school. She got out of
Speaker 1: the school. They're repercussions free, it's free, but they're repercussions
Speaker 1: to the things that you say. It's definitely a no
Speaker 1: nonsense society. That popular radio media company, one of the
Speaker 1: advertisement GMS or UM presidents got in trouble for racist remarks.
Speaker 1: But were they recorded, Oh yeah, they were recording. I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of times, like I understand your
Speaker 1: point of view, but I also feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of times you only see these terminations because it's recorded. Well,
Speaker 1: look at how look at brown and took for them
Speaker 1: to take action because it happened two weeks prior to
Speaker 1: on all the blogs. You know, So to your point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see that. Yeah, it's almost like we gotta fight
Speaker 1: for justice. Is like you know, when you have to,
Speaker 1: you have to. There's so much that goes on in
Speaker 1: the media that there's there's plenty of stories like these
Speaker 1: and then something just get highlighted and they become the
Speaker 1: point of convert station. But there's plenty of people that
Speaker 1: deserve justice and they're just not getting the same attention. So, um,
Speaker 1: it helps. It helps when we spread the word through
Speaker 1: social media about situations like that, like somebody losing their
Speaker 1: life hanging out with your friends, I will say. Um.
Speaker 1: And now these days, I think it's different because I
Speaker 1: grew up and there wasn't no social media. Social media
Speaker 1: was created by my generation. So my kids are growing
Speaker 1: up with a social media. So it's actually a teaching
Speaker 1: moment with me with my kids because I have to
Speaker 1: explain to them how to deal with social media and
Speaker 1: bots and trolls and negative with marks. Because we didn't
Speaker 1: have to deal with that. We just dealt with what
Speaker 1: was in front of us in the physical. But now
Speaker 1: you can literally get stressed out by comments. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: you can literally people. I mean I wouldn't get stressed
Speaker 1: out because that's not how I was raised. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't raised on social media. But people are getting
Speaker 1: stressed out by getting trolled and negative remarks against them
Speaker 1: on social media. But but I understand that because if
Speaker 1: you got to fight at school my generation, only people
Speaker 1: a school knew about it. It was three thirty and
Speaker 1: that was it. You talked about heard about you heard
Speaker 1: about it, you talk about on the buve. Oh man,
Speaker 1: Now it lives forever and a lot. And honestly, this
Speaker 1: is something that I get shared in texts. This is
Speaker 1: something that I thought about, and I say this and
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying this may be the reason
Speaker 1: it's so fortunate happened. But I think that's a lot
Speaker 1: of times why these kids choose and higher level of
Speaker 1: violence and fighting because they don't want to lose. They
Speaker 1: don't want to lose beyond world star. And I think
Speaker 1: that's what these kids are doing, is like these kids
Speaker 1: would rather pull out guns and solve their problems rather
Speaker 1: than my My my dad said, put your dukes up
Speaker 1: and just handle it. And if you take a fade,
Speaker 1: you take a fade. But now the fade lives, and
Speaker 1: people like, oh, you got your aunts whipped in up.
Speaker 1: People can't help the embarrassment anymore. And these kids are
Speaker 1: being talk you know, with this music and the internet,
Speaker 1: they're talk you got to shoot at the ops. Yeah,
Speaker 1: rappers don't say you gotta fight the ops, so you
Speaker 1: gotta shoot the ops. Not only that, it's gonna desensitized,
Speaker 1: it doesn't even face anybody. Yes, speaking of viral deon,
Speaker 1: Sanders offered was offered a twenty five twenty nine point
Speaker 1: five million dollars deal, but the Colorado Athletic director admits
Speaker 1: they don't have the money yet. What do you guys
Speaker 1: think about Dion Sanders leaving Jackson State to go to Colorado.
Speaker 1: This is a blessing and we've only just begun. Wait,
Speaker 1: but they ain't got the money in Colorado yet. They too,
Speaker 1: they bet on him, said they will recoup it later. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not gonna get all that money. They
Speaker 1: got the money five million dollars a year, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that. Why people mad that he left went
Speaker 1: in He sold the big dream. Now, if you paid
Speaker 1: any attention, you knew the dream he was selling wasn't possible.
Speaker 1: But he sold it and he got people to believe it,
Speaker 1: and then each other to do some left, So my
Speaker 1: wife went to an HBCU and over the weekend we
Speaker 1: had a very aggressive debate, and she was just saying,
Speaker 1: you know, from her aspect, a lot of people from
Speaker 1: the HBCU culture that went to an HBCU, they would
Speaker 1: have loved to see him finish. Has some kids go
Speaker 1: to the league, stuff like that. She said. She was
Speaker 1: speaking because she has like a group chatting her and
Speaker 1: her friends all went to HBCUs. She was just saying
Speaker 1: that it kind of bothered her because the HBCU community
Speaker 1: is just kind of like more like a family orient thing,
Speaker 1: and Dion treated his decision like a business And I
Speaker 1: was trying to explain to her, like I went to
Speaker 1: a p W y on Trust scholarship. I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: know the HBCU lifestyle and how he is more like
Speaker 1: a family from what I'm hearing, but I do know
Speaker 1: that Deon Sanders is freaking Dion Sanders, and he treated
Speaker 1: this decision like a business move. Who else is gonna
Speaker 1: come in now and do what he did. I feel
Speaker 1: like he did a great job coaching, and I also
Speaker 1: feel like he did a great job for the community
Speaker 1: and everything that he was doing. But It's like, man,
Speaker 1: if you had an opportunity to get a bag, man,
Speaker 1: you better go get that bag. And he's putting his
Speaker 1: kids in a better position to try to go to
Speaker 1: the league. You know, It's it's really hard, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: to go to the league when you're going to the
Speaker 1: HBCU colleges. You know what I'm saying that I'm just
Speaker 1: keeping one hunted. Like if you watch sports and you
Speaker 1: know most of those guys went to a you know,
Speaker 1: a big college d one. So I feel like what
Speaker 1: he did was just ultimate decisions based on you know,
Speaker 1: his family and a business move that he took. Because
Speaker 1: let's be honest, we all know Dion Sander is trying
Speaker 1: to be an NFL coach. When you played for the NFL,
Speaker 1: the lifespan of the NFL players probably maybe eight years
Speaker 1: years five years if you're running back, right, and so
Speaker 1: it's over after that, and you gotta figure out what
Speaker 1: you're gonna do with your life, right, And I think
Speaker 1: Dion was very passionate about highlighting h b c U
Speaker 1: s I think he brought like it was a crazy
Speaker 1: amount of money that he brought to the city of
Speaker 1: Jackson just by being there. The city of City of Jackson.
Speaker 1: By being there, then he got them like a new
Speaker 1: training facility, a new locker room, back to and so
Speaker 1: one thing I know about Dion is he's a competitor.
Speaker 1: And what I think everybody's missing is the fact that
Speaker 1: I think he stepped in this position and said I'm
Speaker 1: a pretty damn good coach. And they're probably people saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's it's stay go do it somewhere else. And
Speaker 1: I think in Colorado was one and whatever, they were horrible, right,
Speaker 1: And I think I think this is I think this
Speaker 1: is giving him a second act, like he's Dion Sanders
Speaker 1: the coach, And I think you're right. I think he
Speaker 1: will wind up probably wanted to go to the NFL,
Speaker 1: but he's like, I'm but I'm doing it like this.
Speaker 1: I'm starting from the bottom. I starting HBCUs got too
Speaker 1: back to back titles. I'm gonna go to Colorado, see
Speaker 1: what I do there, and then if I wanted to
Speaker 1: getting a job in NFL as an NFL coach, I
Speaker 1: wind up doing that. And that's It's he's fifty five
Speaker 1: years old. I mean, you're life has to have purpose.
Speaker 1: What do you want them to do right now? But Again,
Speaker 1: I do understand where the hurt comes to. The hurt
Speaker 1: is coming from because it was such a great thing
Speaker 1: that he has been doing. People would like to see
Speaker 1: a longer a longer tenure. But this is what I say.
Speaker 1: I don't think that Dion Sanders is not the only
Speaker 1: person that can do that. Correct. There are dozens of
Speaker 1: NFL greers. They are When Dion did that, I feel
Speaker 1: like all them should have spread out to all the HBCU.
Speaker 1: And this is all I'm saying. This is Dion damn Sanders. Y'all.
Speaker 1: This man played for the Falcons and the Braves and
Speaker 1: did a great job playing at both. Played baseball Hall,
Speaker 1: he played in the World Series, he got a Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: he got two Super Bowl Championships. He had his own
Speaker 1: shoes like he's one of the best athletes ever to
Speaker 1: walk the planet. Okay, let's not act like this is this.
Speaker 1: This is not this is some regular Joe blow. This
Speaker 1: is Deon Sanders. Move on. He should said that jazz
Speaker 1: right to and you gotta think about it too. He's
Speaker 1: gotta think about it too. You got to pick him
Speaker 1: in the jet, sent the jet. He came with honest intention.
Speaker 1: He would coached for three seasons. The average tenure of
Speaker 1: a college coach is three to five years, So it's
Speaker 1: not like any you know, it's not like he's it's
Speaker 1: out of the ordinary for someone to coach somewhere for
Speaker 1: three years and leave. And he went back to back championships.
Speaker 1: I was like, what more do I need to do?
Speaker 1: I'm getting on that jet. You know that yet? You
Speaker 1: know that jet? And he's he's literally and before we
Speaker 1: go to commotional, he literally is gonna go God them
Speaker 1: take He's literally invading Colorado. And guess what do you
Speaker 1: know where he's coaching at Guys ever been in older Colorado?
Speaker 1: Is the mascot, the buffaloes or whatever it is. Man,
Speaker 1: you know Boulder, Colorado where they filmed Mark and Mindy
Speaker 1: in the seventies. He already has some confirmed recruits. You're
Speaker 1: trying to get on boy to go there too, my Auston, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's trying to get him to down there too.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna happen. He gonna make it Happy're
Speaker 1: gonna make it happen. Prime Time, gonna make it happen.
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Speaker 1: with the Man of the hour, the man of the show,
Speaker 1: the man of the podcast, Mr Isaac Hayes, the third.
Speaker 1: How's it going, sir, I'm doing excellent. Make sure that
Speaker 1: you download fan Base. Please make sure I've been advocate
Speaker 1: for your app. Thank you very much. Appreciate the way
Speaker 1: who invested in you invest see you invested. We're doing
Speaker 1: our final round and fan Base of investing. You can
Speaker 1: actually invest in fan Base. UM actually owned shares. I've
Speaker 1: raised over seven million dollars in equity crowd funding for
Speaker 1: this platform. And it's good that your part of UM
Speaker 1: some way. So if I invested our own part of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my man, yeah, yeah, invest Hey you the minimum tost
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Speaker 1: engine dot com slash fan base minutes. The minimum to
Speaker 1: invest two forty five. I'm raising two point five million.
Speaker 1: We've already raised one point seven. So we're almost getting
Speaker 1: to the end. I definitely I'm about to go and
Speaker 1: get in earlier. You go, don't don't wait. This is
Speaker 1: our third one. So this is this the laugh one
Speaker 1: I'm doing before. Somebody that can, you know, help you
Speaker 1: get verified to you gotta still follow the guidelines and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I know somebody. I know somebody working fan base.
Speaker 1: I know somebody working fan base that got me get
Speaker 1: your blue check, got me check okay, Instagram trip No,
Speaker 1: but listen, fan base is a dope app. I would
Speaker 1: love to come down here and uh because I've seen
Speaker 1: you one time someone was DJ and live was a
Speaker 1: b stroup. He was DJ and live from here. This
Speaker 1: is a dope app, UM, and I encourage everybody to
Speaker 1: down little to app and then participate in a because
Speaker 1: you have the same thing that UH clubhouse has. You
Speaker 1: have the same thing that uh Instagram has and Snapchat,
Speaker 1: a ticktok and TikTok. Yeah, all the apps is that
Speaker 1: our people. And you can have subscribers. Can you break
Speaker 1: down the paying part because I have free to use,
Speaker 1: free to download, free to use UM. But you can
Speaker 1: follow someone that you can also subscribe to the same
Speaker 1: person for four ninety nine a month. And when I
Speaker 1: tell everybody is subscriptions are about to take over the globe.
Speaker 1: And if you're not monetizing your content today, five years
Speaker 1: from now, you're gonna regret you didn't start today because
Speaker 1: you're gonna be out earned by somebody that is less
Speaker 1: talented than you are has simply decided to do so.
Speaker 1: And so it's so simple, like like everything that you
Speaker 1: see Instagram doing with subscription, we we pioneered that. Fan
Speaker 1: Base is the first app that allow you allowed you
Speaker 1: to subscribe to another person via in that purchase. No
Speaker 1: app that before fan Base. Yeah, I definitely saw that,
Speaker 1: and then I saw Instagram. They have to they're afraid
Speaker 1: because I mean, you know, black culture is the economic
Speaker 1: engine of social media. Hello, it's it's the culture that
Speaker 1: generates the views, which creates the opportunity for them the
Speaker 1: place ads in between those views and make a billion
Speaker 1: dollars in a year, which is what Facebook may last
Speaker 1: year between Instagram and Facebook and ads und billion. But
Speaker 1: how much did they get back to the hood boom?
Speaker 1: I just I just created my account that quick. So
Speaker 1: for you now again, I've been getting my DJ friends
Speaker 1: to come and join the app. And one thing that
Speaker 1: they all like about fan bases they don't get kicked
Speaker 1: off when you live, right, What is the difference between
Speaker 1: getting kicked off on live and then Instagram kicking you
Speaker 1: off live? A couple of reasons to see why. One,
Speaker 1: if you think about it, like what money does Instagram
Speaker 1: make by allowing you to go live? They have to
Speaker 1: pay to license all that music based on their monthly
Speaker 1: active users, so they got to cut a check to
Speaker 1: pay for that. So so Instagram got two billion monthly
Speaker 1: active users, right, so that means they got to pay
Speaker 1: to have all that music play. So they're like, we're
Speaker 1: not even making any money. It's a free service that
Speaker 1: we provide for fan base. We have the same licenses
Speaker 1: with all the pr oh so b M, I ASCAP,
Speaker 1: C sex, so can GMR DJ to your heart's content.
Speaker 1: And we pay based off our monthly act of users.
Speaker 1: And we're monetized, so we can still afford to pay
Speaker 1: for those licenses. Why do you call the fan base?
Speaker 1: You know what? I don't even I mean think, Well, okay,
Speaker 1: the reason why I called it fan base was because
Speaker 1: there are two things that I recognize. Everyone is a
Speaker 1: fan of something, and everyone has a base. And that's
Speaker 1: what really made me think about it, because it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, people that follow you on social media, follow
Speaker 1: you passively like a magazine at a grocery store order
Speaker 1: nosy or their haters, right, but that five percent is
Speaker 1: your fan base. They rock with you. And if those
Speaker 1: people subscribe to you, Let's say like I al, I say,
Speaker 1: five thousand people subscribe to you on a fan base, right,
Speaker 1: you get half the subscription revenue, which is two thousand
Speaker 1: and fifty cents, same as like twitch, prime and YouTube.
Speaker 1: So think about five thousand people subscribe you as twelve thousand,
Speaker 1: five hundred a hundred fifty thousand dollars a year. It's
Speaker 1: more than Americans making a year all tickets five thousand people.
Speaker 1: If you have a million followers, you have fifty thousand fans,
Speaker 1: and those people will pay you a hundred twenty five
Speaker 1: thousands and mother, you make one point five million dollars
Speaker 1: year just off fifty thousand people. I know people with
Speaker 1: thirteen million TikTok followers that don't make a hundred grand
Speaker 1: a year off TikTok. Damn. I'm telling you it's in subscriptions.
Speaker 1: So do you have people on and I did check
Speaker 1: my account. I think I have like sixty bucks in
Speaker 1: there because you got and we probably just paid. We
Speaker 1: paid it the first of very month. If you had
Speaker 1: sixty bucks, you cant pay anything with twenty five hours,
Speaker 1: we pay you. Because what happens is, let's just say
Speaker 1: I can buy hearts. I think I bought hearts and
Speaker 1: then I buy Love is a love love Yeah, so
Speaker 1: if I love your post, you get how much half
Speaker 1: a penny for every love? So someone because I someone
Speaker 1: loved my post like ten times. Every every time you
Speaker 1: love because you could like it, comment or you can
Speaker 1: hard it. Your heart is paid love. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: can love the posts you when you go live. You know,
Speaker 1: the hearts that fool up on Instagram don't mean anything
Speaker 1: when you live on fan base. Every time somebody tafts
Speaker 1: that you make money, I'm I'm a lot of day
Speaker 1: made like twenty real quick. That's why I was getting
Speaker 1: all my DJ buddies to sign up. We're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna take a don't put you on my profile picture.
Speaker 1: Come up with this. It can't you know? So I
Speaker 1: was so you know, I've been producing, like I was
Speaker 1: managing my dad's to staying in producing and licensing my music,
Speaker 1: and it came from the purest place ever. It's funny
Speaker 1: how like life just throws you an idea. This kid
Speaker 1: went viral from Memphis for dancing in a Spider Man
Speaker 1: costume at a game stop. I fel people remember the clip,
Speaker 1: but he went superviral, and I just shot him a
Speaker 1: DM and said congrats young Memphis because he's from Memphis.
Speaker 1: I'm from Memphis. And he hit me back. He's like,
Speaker 1: are you a manager? He's like, I need a manager,
Speaker 1: and he's like kind of talked to you on the phone,
Speaker 1: want to call you. And I was like, well, I
Speaker 1: think about it, but you know, I don't really manage influencers.
Speaker 1: And I left that conversation feeling like, Wow, he's having
Speaker 1: the moment of his life, and how does he monetize
Speaker 1: because he doesn't own Spider Man, and Marvel and Disney
Speaker 1: could shut that down at any time they feel like
Speaker 1: they want to shut it down. I was like, people
Speaker 1: need to be able to subscribe to people like Netflix.
Speaker 1: I was like, I need to be able to follow you,
Speaker 1: but if you post something that's really dope, I should
Speaker 1: be able to subscribe to you. And this is a
Speaker 1: year after only Fans came out, so nobody only fan
Speaker 1: nobody knew only fans was once I did my research first.
Speaker 1: So they're only two apps out there, Patreon and only Fans.
Speaker 1: Neither one of them were social networks. Only Fans was pooring.
Speaker 1: It was called fans only primarily porn. So I was like,
Speaker 1: we need just a regular app that any person on
Speaker 1: the planet can monetize their content and have subscribers. And
Speaker 1: then that was fan Base And so here we are now,
Speaker 1: but hundred eight plus countries, Iowa's and Android over three
Speaker 1: hundred thousand users. So you just have this idea like
Speaker 1: did you know some people in tech or did you
Speaker 1: have to research that? So so yeah, have some texts
Speaker 1: and says. So the first thing I did is like,
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna do something, I want to learn about
Speaker 1: to educate myself about it. So, um, there's a place
Speaker 1: called the Gathering Spot here in Atlanta, and I was
Speaker 1: a member and I met three people that were in
Speaker 1: the tech space, Jewel Berk's, Barry Givings and Justin Dawkins,
Speaker 1: and they have a company called Collapse Capital. Jewels sold
Speaker 1: her company to Amazon, buried with with tech stars. Justin
Speaker 1: worked at Google and I just asked him, Okay, what's
Speaker 1: tech like? And they gave me the foundational ideas of
Speaker 1: what what tech is about. And then um, I, I
Speaker 1: you know, started to build the company and I took
Speaker 1: two in a thousand dollars of my own money. She
Speaker 1: was just crazy, sounds crazy, but I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: a gamble on myself. Um and built the original version
Speaker 1: of fan Base and then um and then listen to
Speaker 1: a lot of mentors and people tell me, you know,
Speaker 1: about the tech space, and coming from the music industry,
Speaker 1: nothing is more grim me than the music business, nothing like.
Speaker 1: So when I got to tech, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is easy, and it's very very similar. Like vcs
Speaker 1: are like the label and your app is like the artists.
Speaker 1: So if you walk into a VC's office, Adventure capitals
Speaker 1: to people that have fund apps, the people that fund apps,
Speaker 1: you're walk into their office is like you're walking off
Speaker 1: the street with no buzz. So they'll give you the
Speaker 1: basic deal here, here's want of your company, like damn.
Speaker 1: And people take those deals all the time. Your company
Speaker 1: for the money that I spent the building, that's called
Speaker 1: a precede. And so sometimes people wind up giving big
Speaker 1: chunks away of their company to do that. I passed
Speaker 1: that because I paid for it myself. And so then
Speaker 1: I had one meeting with a VC and it felt
Speaker 1: very like I'm the big VC, you're the little artist,
Speaker 1: you know whatever. And then COVID hit and I couldn't
Speaker 1: move anyway. So I tried equity crowd funding. In the
Speaker 1: game me, I was like, oh, this is like going independent.
Speaker 1: So now I can sell shares out the trunk of
Speaker 1: my car to the tun of seven million dollars. I
Speaker 1: raised more money than most people that get funded by vcs,
Speaker 1: but I got my money from the people. And simultaneously,
Speaker 1: fan Base is a product that is in the marketplace,
Speaker 1: so you can actually download and and use it see
Speaker 1: if it's something you felt like invested in. And then
Speaker 1: when you use it, you become someone that helps promote
Speaker 1: the app. A smart I'll put my coins up, yeah,
Speaker 1: and and I tell you it's the biggest It's the
Speaker 1: easiest legal flip of all time because I'll ask the question,
Speaker 1: but we all know the answer. What gives an app
Speaker 1: it's value, it's users. So if everybody left Instagram tomorrow,
Speaker 1: Instagram were zero dollars and zero cents right, and if
Speaker 1: those people went to fan base, fan base were worth
Speaker 1: a hundred billion dollars, right, So before imagine if someone
Speaker 1: allowed you the opportunity to invest in own part of
Speaker 1: the company, and then we all move at the same time,
Speaker 1: and then the value of the company goes up. So
Speaker 1: we're inflating the value of our own asset by simply
Speaker 1: moving over there and using it. And you can transfer
Speaker 1: all your content from Instagram or TikTok, so you can
Speaker 1: move it. You can actually take all your posts and
Speaker 1: just copy them over and stays on Instagram and we
Speaker 1: just ship everything up with a fan base, or you
Speaker 1: can store over there. What do you think it's going
Speaker 1: to take for the culture to get off of the
Speaker 1: I G T and get over the fan base? You
Speaker 1: know that's black owned. I don't I don't think. I
Speaker 1: don't think that will happen in that way. I think
Speaker 1: that social media, every social media platform has a lifespan.
Speaker 1: They live and they die. So my Space is dead.
Speaker 1: Facebook as a senior citizen, um, Instagram is a middle
Speaker 1: aged adult Snapchat some millennial ticktoxas centennial. And I don't
Speaker 1: think I didn't really build fan base for me or
Speaker 1: I build fan base for someone that's eighteen nineteen. We
Speaker 1: can all use it, but the but the generation is
Speaker 1: gonna understand it and carry the torch are the young
Speaker 1: kids because they understand in that purchases virtual currency monetization.
Speaker 1: My little brothers sixteen, he don't know paper money. He
Speaker 1: knows what's on his card, he knows what's on cash app.
Speaker 1: He knows that, and so I don't expect that. Plus,
Speaker 1: people have relationships with social media. If you admit it,
Speaker 1: it's like a relation, a ship, right, It's like I've
Speaker 1: been I've been with Instagram since two thousand ten. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've been in a relationship Instagram for twelve years, and
Speaker 1: it's hard to walk away. You put a lot of
Speaker 1: time and energy building your following. You're comfortable there, and
Speaker 1: the app doesn't treat you well, and you still stay.
Speaker 1: They banned your content, they suppress you, but you still stay.
Speaker 1: It's a psychological situation. But I tell people all the time,
Speaker 1: date apps cheat on Instagram, cheat on Instagram. Like if
Speaker 1: if dj Kalett was faithful to my Space and Facebook
Speaker 1: and Twitter and Instagram, he would have never met Snapchat.
Speaker 1: That's how he up and that was the love of it.
Speaker 1: It changed his life. It's the same thing for Jason
Speaker 1: Derulo on TikTok, and Jason Derulo's career was over he
Speaker 1: got on TikTok. Kee's one of the largest people on
Speaker 1: TikTok and making more money than every day. But if
Speaker 1: you decided to say I'm just stuck on Instagram, it's like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying something new. So you gotta try something
Speaker 1: new and then and then the world up. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you the world. I keep saying it's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 1: I say it on every interview so that I know
Speaker 1: that this is going to be recorded and played somewhere
Speaker 1: ten fifteen years down the line. Like subscriptions are going
Speaker 1: to make so much money for people, it's going to
Speaker 1: be scary, Like it's going to be trillions now. They're
Speaker 1: doing it already for the networks like HBO or okay.
Speaker 1: But but what I mean is there's seven and a
Speaker 1: half billion people on the planet with a smartphone, right,
Speaker 1: how many people have Netflix? Out of seven and a
Speaker 1: half billion millions, at least half of that, it's only
Speaker 1: million people that have Netflix because they share passwords. I mean, yeah, probably,
Speaker 1: But to think that people subscribing to other people is
Speaker 1: going to be bigger than Netflix, Disney, Apple, Spotify. I
Speaker 1: can buy at seven and a half billion people that
Speaker 1: can click a couple of buttons on a smartphone and
Speaker 1: subscribe to somebody. I know that, Like I know the
Speaker 1: people can't see this, like probably won't be able to
Speaker 1: see this, but if I can, if I showed you
Speaker 1: how easy it was to subscribe to somebody on a
Speaker 1: fan base, it's scary. Like I said, okay, I want
Speaker 1: to subscribe to this person, right, I just hit this
Speaker 1: button right and said subscribe, and I hit it again
Speaker 1: and I'm a double clip and that's it. Damn, that's
Speaker 1: that's two dollars and fifty cents for you. So imagine
Speaker 1: like when something and this is why I don't think
Speaker 1: people understand, and when Bad Babies, when Bad Baby made
Speaker 1: all that money off only fans, I didn't. I thought
Speaker 1: it was going to change the game. Like they still
Speaker 1: don't get it. And then a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: tell the Swift selves two million dollars worth the tickets
Speaker 1: in like an hour, and I'm like, you don't understand,
Speaker 1: Like when someone goes viral from subscriptions, when somebody gets
Speaker 1: three million subscribers, four million subscribers in a day. They
Speaker 1: have made like eight nine million dollars in one day.
Speaker 1: The world is going to change. It's going to be
Speaker 1: like what am I doing? Why am I here for free?
Speaker 1: Why am I dancing and singing and tell of these
Speaker 1: jokes and doing these kits for nothing? When everybody ain't
Speaker 1: gotta follow me? Like all it takes is five percent.
Speaker 1: Like I said, fifty thou people subscribe to you gives
Speaker 1: you one point five million dollars a year. I know artists.
Speaker 1: I know people with millions of fillers on Instagram and
Speaker 1: are making one point five million dollars year after their
Speaker 1: social media they broke. They don't know how to use it.
Speaker 1: But I think that's why a lot of these gen
Speaker 1: zeers and millennials go to YouTube, because they make that
Speaker 1: from subscriptions off of YouTube. But but it's it's still
Speaker 1: a lot harder because they don't have the tools. And
Speaker 1: then people really get on YouTube for the monetization for
Speaker 1: the ads, but it's harder to make money off ads
Speaker 1: like all these cookies and everybody being at the opt
Speaker 1: out of people tracking you on your phone and ship
Speaker 1: like that that thing, right, there, that's over with. That's what.
Speaker 1: That's why, that's why everybody's kind of panicking, like all
Speaker 1: these platforms are going to have a decline and AD
Speaker 1: revenue for the first time ever. YouTube I think they
Speaker 1: said they're gonna lose seven million AD revenue. Instagram is
Speaker 1: gonna lose billions and AD revenue because they're not making
Speaker 1: the money. And so these platforms are gonna decline. And
Speaker 1: we really don't know how how old a platform can get.
Speaker 1: Like Facebook is gonna turn twenty in two thousand twenty four.
Speaker 1: We don't know what it's going to be. The thing
Speaker 1: I think the problem with YouTube is too, you know,
Speaker 1: because they can do subscribe. They can't do subscription based
Speaker 1: uh like where you can subscribe for free on YouTube
Speaker 1: and you can pay you know, different tiers of money
Speaker 1: for however they said it, but YouTube take so much
Speaker 1: of YouTuber's money. Ours is ours is very similar. It's
Speaker 1: about but ours. Apple and Google take thirty because we're
Speaker 1: using the in that purchase technology the convenience of that,
Speaker 1: and then we take twenty and then we get fifty
Speaker 1: to the users. So you get but you have to
Speaker 1: give Okay, yeah, but but the convenience of being able
Speaker 1: to click two buttons or fingerprint or a face scan
Speaker 1: or something like that. And that's what I understand. It's
Speaker 1: like like there's nothing, there's nothing in between you and
Speaker 1: seven and a half billion people except two clicks of
Speaker 1: a button and two dollars and fifty cents every time.
Speaker 1: I would be busting my ask for subscribers. My job
Speaker 1: would be to get the subscribers to get the money.
Speaker 1: Absolutely how much money that like, I can't. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you it's gonna be. So it's gonna be people that
Speaker 1: are so rich. It's like, why am I doing what
Speaker 1: I'm doing? All right? So I need you looking at
Speaker 1: camera there and Mr Hayes, and I need you to
Speaker 1: tell there about it. Why don't you to stop doing
Speaker 1: what they're doing? Get off Instagram? Well do they need
Speaker 1: to get off Instagram base? Stay on Instagram on all
Speaker 1: your social media reforms base, you use all your other
Speaker 1: social media platforms as a a funnel to come to
Speaker 1: fan base and start building your audience there. That is
Speaker 1: the point. I think. When when bad Baby made that money,
Speaker 1: right when she made out that money, you know what
Speaker 1: she did. She archived all her content on Instagram. She
Speaker 1: has sixteen million followers on Instagram. She took all her
Speaker 1: post down. She's like, what what point is there for
Speaker 1: me being on Instagram? I can't push a button and
Speaker 1: reach sixteen million people? Why am I here? I pull
Speaker 1: up the Rocks page right now. He has three hundred million,
Speaker 1: three something million followers on Instagram. Right his post only
Speaker 1: gets seen by eleven million people, twelve million people. Because
Speaker 1: if the Rocky reach three hundred million people, that's three
Speaker 1: times the reach of the Super Bowl, which only comes
Speaker 1: on one day a year, four hours a day. And
Speaker 1: they charged seven million dollars for thirty seconds, So the
Speaker 1: rock could charge twenty one million dollars. You could post
Speaker 1: on one the page and reach three d million people
Speaker 1: with a thirty second spot. He could charge twenty one
Speaker 1: million dollars a post. That's what I'm saying. That's why
Speaker 1: the algorithm is. So that's why the brushes you down,
Speaker 1: because they're like, if that's the case, then brands will
Speaker 1: just come and pay you. Instagram and they recently switched
Speaker 1: the algram rhythm around to where like you're a lot
Speaker 1: of the people that you follow their hidden Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's a shell game. Everybody. I said,
Speaker 1: don't feel bad about if you feel like a shadow
Speaker 1: man everybody. Content is suppressed on social media, everybody. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm super suppressed. It doesn't like nothing gets seen by
Speaker 1: what I post. But I feel the same way. I'm like,
Speaker 1: how do I get how do I have more followers?
Speaker 1: But I got more likes a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: than now, from two thousand ten to two thousand and fourteen.
Speaker 1: Instagram with the funnest place on Earth. You could go viral.
Speaker 1: You can get up. You need five million follows and
Speaker 1: that you can join the platform like go viral, wind
Speaker 1: up on world Star. I'm gonna have It. Doesn't work
Speaker 1: like that because it's a business now that advertising is
Speaker 1: the business, because they want you to pay you content
Speaker 1: says it right on top of mine. Would you like
Speaker 1: to boost this post? I'm over here like no, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like, why do I got to boost the post?
Speaker 1: And they're trying to put it? Shows reels on Instagram
Speaker 1: so bad, trying to uh, how about this TikTok? If
Speaker 1: I post a regular video, just if I just do
Speaker 1: a regular post, I'll probably not even get viewed a lot.
Speaker 1: But if I post a reel, my real gets forty
Speaker 1: fifty sixty thousand views. But if I just do the
Speaker 1: same video just on a regular post, That's what I
Speaker 1: tell you. Two reasons why that happens. One, your regular
Speaker 1: videos are are unique views, which means once you watch
Speaker 1: the video for three seconds, it counts as a view.
Speaker 1: No matter how many more times I watched that video,
Speaker 1: you don't get any more views. Rails and TikTok's the
Speaker 1: milliseconds you watched the video, it's a view. If you
Speaker 1: watch that video twenty times, it's twenty views. That's why
Speaker 1: it looks more because it's like, oh ship, like I'm
Speaker 1: getting all these views, but it's really people watching your
Speaker 1: video two times three times and it's going viral. And
Speaker 1: those videos are shorter. Think about this. They start running
Speaker 1: ads on those long videos. That's why Country Wayne left Instagram.
Speaker 1: Remember like I g TV like they did in that
Speaker 1: because it's like YouTube they did at that because there's
Speaker 1: not enough video to run ads in between. But if
Speaker 1: you're posting one minute videos, too many videos, you know
Speaker 1: how much contentaris to run ads in between now, So
Speaker 1: it's like they want you to post reels so that
Speaker 1: they have more content to run ads in between. To
Speaker 1: make more money. That's the game. Damn all right, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick commercial break. Isaac Hayes the Third is
Speaker 1: still here kicking it with us right here on the
Speaker 1: ball Alert Show Podcast. We'll be right back with more
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Speaker 1: am a fifty five year old beautiful woman. I have
Speaker 1: been dating for about two years now. I most recently
Speaker 1: met this man about a month ago. We went out
Speaker 1: on a few dates and he has yet to try
Speaker 1: to kiss me or even try me. Now. We are
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Speaker 1: kiss her. Maybe he just don't know. Maybe you don't
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Speaker 1: one day, so he probably like a little bit of times.
Speaker 1: How many dates think going like, no, that's not no,
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Speaker 1: he has yet to try to kiss me or even
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Speaker 1: we're not young, We're older and know what we both want.
Speaker 1: Why do y'all think he hasn't tried to do anything
Speaker 1: to me. You know he won't. I just said it.
Speaker 1: He needs that jump start, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I would definitely say, why don't she just make the
Speaker 1: first move? Then make the first move. Women are afraid
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Speaker 1: A matter of fact, that one of my friends she's on,
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Speaker 1: shot man, just now. If he rejects you, then you'll know.
Speaker 1: If he reject you, then you shoot your shot in here.
Speaker 1: He yeah, yeah, if he's on a couple of days
Speaker 1: with you, he like you. So maybe he's just trying
Speaker 1: to not be offensive or not to come on too
Speaker 1: strong and kiss you. So check your breath, make sure
Speaker 1: your breath right. He probably went on his COVID test
Speaker 1: to come back in something. Yeah, but I usually have
Speaker 1: something crazy to say. I don't have nothing crazy decide.
Speaker 1: I just think that's the only thing I got to say. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as of Hayes, we appreciate you. Now, we do something
Speaker 1: called pep talk. That's when you look into the camera
Speaker 1: and give some people some motivation. People that may look
Speaker 1: to you for motivation, look up to you. Whatever that
Speaker 1: may be. You look at that camera and you give
Speaker 1: him some motivation. What I can say is, do not
Speaker 1: be afraid to start something, even when you feel there's
Speaker 1: competition in the marketplace. When I started fan base, the
Speaker 1: first thing a white beast he said to me is
Speaker 1: why would you want to go up against Facebook and
Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg? And I was like, One, I can build
Speaker 1: everything that Mark Zuckerberg can build, but Mark Zuckerberg can't
Speaker 1: build me and my culture. Also, look at where social
Speaker 1: media has been the last month or so. It's been
Speaker 1: very very unstable. TikTok might get banned in the US.
Speaker 1: Elon musk about Twitter. Mark Zuckerberg is building the metaverse
Speaker 1: and people are getting fed up with Instagram. Just run
Speaker 1: your race, you know what I'm saying. So do not
Speaker 1: be afraid to start something no matter what somebody else
Speaker 1: is doing. Put your blinders on, um, put your head
Speaker 1: down what I'm saying, and race forward and stay on
Speaker 1: your mission and continue to do that. Don't worry about
Speaker 1: what everybody else has going on. There's a million pizza
Speaker 1: restaurants in town, and we still got Papa John's, Dominoes
Speaker 1: and Pizza Hut, So there's enough room to go around
Speaker 1: for everybody to have a piece of the pie. So
Speaker 1: don't let anybody intimidate you from out of doing your
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