Speaker 1: Check it in Man.
Speaker 2: Thursday morning, September twenty sixth, twenty twenty fours. The Beating
Speaker 2: the Book Podcast, week number four in the NFL. It's
Speaker 2: skill Alexander. Yeah, not a good first three weeks for me.
Speaker 2: Not a good first threeks, first three weeks for Willie
Speaker 2: will Hill, one of the staples of this show. Of course,
Speaker 2: you can follow him on Twitter at not the will
Speaker 2: Hill should have been more podcasts. But Todd Wishna is
Speaker 2: doing pretty good, even though you had a one and
Speaker 2: two last week as well. Todd Wishnav from the Showtime
Speaker 2: docu series Action at t wish Now, Toddy, you are
Speaker 2: just oring waring everybody. Todd is not eaten and he
Speaker 2: went to Starbucks, so you could be Michugan on this show, right,
Speaker 2: is what you're saying in advance.
Speaker 3: Basically, most people will be thinking, I just railed three
Speaker 3: lines of cocaine because caffeine has a certain effect on me,
Speaker 3: and you're gonna think that I'm on coke. I'm not.
Speaker 3: It's because I've had no calories and I've had a
Speaker 3: lot of caffeine. But you've all been warned, so whatever.
Speaker 2: Okay, there we are. There's our warning on the show today.
Speaker 2: One of our favorite guests. He's kind enough to come
Speaker 2: on the Megapod. Well, he's on a numbers game every week,
Speaker 2: that's the first thing for not one but two segments.
Speaker 2: But he's kind enough to come on the Megapod twice
Speaker 2: a year, once during the regular season. Once we usually
Speaker 2: have him when he can accommodate during the playoffs, and
Speaker 2: obviously we do tennis podcasts together as well. He's the
Speaker 2: co host of not one but two podcasts, NBC Sports
Speaker 2: at the Edge with Jay Croucher and also of course
Speaker 2: Densic Classic The Deep Dive with Andy Molitor. It's Drew Dinsig,
Speaker 2: Everybody at Whale, Underscore, capp Or What's Happening, and Drew
Speaker 2: Ski as always.
Speaker 1: It's an honor to be invited and participate in the Megapod.
Speaker 1: And you guys are looking great. Hopefully I can help
Speaker 1: turn the season around. I'll the Bengals this week, probably
Speaker 1: turning their season round, hopefully. So it is funny though,
Speaker 1: watching with the video quality we're getting from Todd right now,
Speaker 1: his eyes do look like perfectly like one hundred per
Speaker 1: dilated like pupils, just going like all wow, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I was wondering what was going on there, but I
Speaker 1: guess it's the cafine.
Speaker 2: Drew is very kind also because Drew just came back
Speaker 2: from a Greek vacation where he looks beautiful, and I
Speaker 2: was just saying before he got here, I said, I've
Speaker 2: never looked worse. Look at me. I'm exhausted. What's happening
Speaker 2: to me? I'm dying?
Speaker 1: Is a grid man? Three weeks in it, you're already
Speaker 1: feeling it.
Speaker 2: Oh that's awful, all right? So we we usually do
Speaker 2: this a little earlier on Thursday, but Drew couldn't get
Speaker 2: off a call. Drew has another life that he does,
Speaker 2: and I just before I know the people are like, oh,
Speaker 2: I just give the picks. I just want to have
Speaker 2: this one conversation with Drew because I think it's fascinating.
Speaker 2: Drew is, I hope you don't mind me saying it
Speaker 2: like this. You'll correct me if I'm saying it wrong.
Speaker 2: Drew is a seismologist, and we were sort of texting
Speaker 2: back and forth. He couldn't get out of a meeting,
Speaker 2: so we had to do this a little later. Today.
Speaker 2: You have seen something that, even though it's not football prognostic,
Speaker 2: I find fascinating. I wish we could bet on this.
Speaker 2: Can you explain what you are seeing these days? Sir?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, earthquakes hot hot in the streets in
Speaker 1: LA right now. You mentioned I was traveling international recently.
Speaker 1: I was at Lax Thursday morning, the week before last,
Speaker 1: and I'm a consulting engineer, so basically my job is
Speaker 1: to you know, kind of help the help the structural
Speaker 1: engineers design the buildings so that there's you know, safe
Speaker 1: performance during the earthquake. And we were at LAX and
Speaker 1: ground starts shaking, and I'm like, oh, wow, this is cool.
Speaker 1: Like I get to see like how the structure performs,
Speaker 1: like sitting there in the terminal, like, oh this is great.
Speaker 1: And then every single cell phone in the entire terminal
Speaker 1: gets the warning at the same time, like you know,
Speaker 1: like ground shaking, earthquake is happening. See cover. And I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe this isn't as cool as I thought, because number one,
Speaker 1: I don't love being in the public space for this,
Speaker 1: and number two, I hope this doesn't ruin Our trip.
Speaker 1: Ended up only being in a magnet, you know, just
Speaker 1: under a magnitude five happened in Malibu, but it was
Speaker 1: it was notable, and you kind of look at a pattern. Recently,
Speaker 1: we've had three of these now this summer, and they've
Speaker 1: all been relatively close to populated areas on different faults.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we're coming up around sort of the time
Speaker 1: when you would expect another earthquake in the La Basin.
Speaker 1: They happen about every thirty years, and the last one
Speaker 1: do occur was nineteen ninety four and earthwridche at least
Speaker 1: in terms of real, big, consequential earthquakes. So yeah, everybody
Speaker 1: is very key on earthquake safety right now. And I think,
Speaker 1: you know, it's good when you have the small ones
Speaker 1: because it gives everybody the opportunity to think, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what's my plan? You know, what do I have enough water?
Speaker 1: Like how am I gonna get my kids from school?
Speaker 1: Or whatever? You know, Like, yeah, it's good to just
Speaker 1: sort of have everybody go through the mental exercise of
Speaker 1: being prepared for this sort of thing because you never know.
Speaker 2: So you are and I just want I don't want
Speaker 2: to hold you to a prediction here, but you are
Speaker 2: basically saying so for those of us who lived at
Speaker 2: any amount of time in California, and also for those
Speaker 2: who haven't aware of this, I think nineteen eighty nine
Speaker 2: San Francisco. Obviously the Bay Bridge collapsing during the World
Speaker 2: Series between the A's and the Giants. That got all
Speaker 2: the headlines, and rightfully so. By the way, the marina
Speaker 2: was on fire, people lost their lives on the Bay Bridge.
Speaker 2: It was chaos during the game al Michael's with the
Speaker 2: famous audio. But for those who were both in the
Speaker 2: eighty nine that's called the Loma Prieta earthquake, as you know,
Speaker 2: Drew and then ninety three the Northridge I guess these
Speaker 2: are named after the fault line, is that what they're
Speaker 2: named after, or just for the epicenter.
Speaker 1: They tend to name them after the community that's the
Speaker 1: most directly impacted, and that's usually either the most populated
Speaker 1: community right over the fault or yeah, or near the epicenter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Northridge it was. It ended up being the north
Speaker 1: Ridge fault. They didn't know a fault was there until
Speaker 1: it happened, and they named it the north Ridge fault.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's kind of how it goes.
Speaker 2: So people who I know were in both, and again
Speaker 2: this depends on where you were, obviously, but anecdotally they
Speaker 2: were like, oh, the north Ridge one was way worse,
Speaker 2: Like they were like this is it was. Stuff was
Speaker 2: coming off the walls, you know, in their apartments, and
Speaker 2: it was just it's terrifying. Now you sort of said
Speaker 2: it casually, but again, if you've lived in California anything
Speaker 2: in the fours and you know, low fives on the
Speaker 2: Richter scale, we kind of don't blink anymore if you've
Speaker 2: been through enough of them. But once you start like
Speaker 2: six what you were just talking about, I think if
Speaker 2: that is to happen thirty years from Northridge, like, that's
Speaker 2: some serious shit, and that's I don't want to say
Speaker 2: you're predicting it, but the technic with.
Speaker 3: Your story that comes, Yeah, Philly, I have a bedding
Speaker 3: story that comes with one of my earth quakes. I
Speaker 3: was living in LA two thousand and one to twenty fifteen,
Speaker 3: and I remember on a college football Saturday, I'm at
Speaker 3: the same place I was for the old Kipper massacre story.
Speaker 3: I'm watching the game and the place was shaking. I
Speaker 3: think it was only like a four point seven or something,
Speaker 3: but it was shaking serious and it wasn't the first
Speaker 3: earthquake been in LA. But I was like, can this
Speaker 3: stop shaking. There's two minutes left in this game. What
Speaker 3: a is going on here? I'm going, you can't have
Speaker 3: an earthquake now.
Speaker 2: I'm about this, Bet Todd, you had you have two
Speaker 2: earthquake stories. You remember the second one?
Speaker 3: Oh, the other earthquake. Of course that was a special.
Speaker 3: And in Las Vegas we went to the game Mystics
Speaker 3: Vegas Aces a couple of years ago. We had the
Speaker 3: Mystics pick them at halftime. They're up like fifteen points,
Speaker 3: and there was an earthquake in the desert in California
Speaker 3: that affected La that affected the Vegas a tiny bit.
Speaker 3: It wasn't even that bad. We're in the MGM Grand
Speaker 3: Arena and I'm like, they're not gonna end this game?
Speaker 3: Are they been screwing Summer League Mystics and and they're
Speaker 3: all these little girls are like, oh, like they're worried
Speaker 3: the scoreboard is gonna fall. I'm like, get another ten girls.
Speaker 2: The bench, Tod, I go, you know the scoreboard could
Speaker 2: fall on these girls.
Speaker 3: Get another ten girls. We got tons of girls on
Speaker 3: the bench. It's Mystics and I'm up fifteen and a half.
Speaker 3: It was ridiculous. And I'm watching They've got guys in
Speaker 3: suits coming out there looking at the floor they're doing.
Speaker 3: This is going on for like a half an hour.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, this is unbelievable if I
Speaker 3: lose this bet. So finally they decide after they could
Speaker 3: have played the whole second half in the amount of
Speaker 3: time that they did to inspect, and then they call
Speaker 3: the game, and I am literally absolutely because I have
Speaker 3: an easy winner and I and I get And on
Speaker 3: top of that, I didn't even get refunded for my tickets.
Speaker 3: The Aces didn't refunded. I was so mad. I was like,
Speaker 3: only this could happen to me in earthquake two hundred
Speaker 3: miles away.
Speaker 1: To put them on this, uh yeah, this is this
Speaker 1: is just to go to go to say you know
Speaker 1: that all of your points are Fairgillroich was ten times
Speaker 1: worse than than Loma Creator for lots of reasons, and
Speaker 1: Southern California much like the Megapod, we are due, we are.
Speaker 2: Too much like the Megapod. Nicely done, good segue. And
Speaker 2: by the way, this drews Drew sort of letting me
Speaker 2: know this. Major League Baseball completely has botched their last
Speaker 2: week of the season with the final two wild card
Speaker 2: spots in the National League with Hurricane Helene, which the
Speaker 2: difference between earthquakes and hurricanes is we know the hurricanes
Speaker 2: are coming, but Major League Baseball apparently did not get
Speaker 2: the memo. So let's let's turn it around. We are due.
Speaker 2: As Drew said Todd, the records are what, Well, the.
Speaker 3: Records seem to be very similar to last week, with
Speaker 3: a gigantic lead by one big tea. That's me. Gilly
Speaker 3: came into the week at one, four and one. We
Speaker 3: all called for the aggression after his amazing season. We
Speaker 3: all knew it wasn't for real. We all knew there
Speaker 3: was no way Gil could keep up this towards streak
Speaker 3: that he had last year. And guess what vote reality
Speaker 3: has set in. He is now two six and one
Speaker 3: and a whopping zero to three on his teasers. And
Speaker 3: that is surprising because we've all been outstanding on teasers
Speaker 3: as of the last couple of years. Willie, say, Willie
Speaker 3: gets a one and two to go to four and
Speaker 3: five oh and three also on his teasers, so this
Speaker 3: is shocking. Wow. And then I am at six and
Speaker 3: three after my one and two week, and I am
Speaker 3: one and two on teasers also not very good, and
Speaker 3: then the guest. The guest had a good week. Adam
Speaker 3: Chernoff held up his side of the bargain, going two
Speaker 3: and one with some nice picks, including the Commanders plus
Speaker 3: seven and a half. That's Gilly's former team used to
Speaker 3: be called the Redskins. For those of you that didn't know,
Speaker 3: the guest is now four four and one and two
Speaker 3: and one on the teasers. So we've got to turn
Speaker 3: it around. Everybody else needs to turn it around except
Speaker 3: for me. Thank you.
Speaker 2: You need to turn it around so we can catch
Speaker 2: you Dumbo of the Week. We have two candidates for
Speaker 2: Dumbo of the Week.
Speaker 3: Yes, I want to you do your first one and
Speaker 3: key save Raheem Moores for me.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna set it up. It is a it
Speaker 2: is a Nick Sirianni versus Raheem Morris duel to the
Speaker 2: end for Dumbo of the Week. I'll do Okay, you
Speaker 2: want you want to do the Royeye Morris, I'll do
Speaker 2: the Nick Sirianni. The Nick Sirianni was simply a body
Speaker 2: of work in what ended up being philadelphia Is fifteen
Speaker 2: to twelve win over the Saints, but probably could have
Speaker 2: been way bigger. Than that. By the way, Philadelphia outgained
Speaker 2: the fouc They excuse me, the Saints in that game
Speaker 2: four hundred and sixty to two hundred and nineteen in
Speaker 2: total yards. But there was any number of situations in
Speaker 2: that game where first of all, you know, Hurts got
Speaker 2: picked by Tehran Matthew earlier in that game. But just
Speaker 2: in terms of coaching decisions, fourth and one for Philly
Speaker 2: down three to excuse me, this is this is a
Speaker 2: scoreless game, fourth and one for Philly at the New
Speaker 2: Orleans forty six. They opt not to do the Tukus bush,
Speaker 2: which they invented and perfected. Hurts to Goddard for six.
Speaker 2: They converted it and then two plays later Hurts ended
Speaker 2: up fumbling, But that was the first sort of indication like, wow,
Speaker 2: that was an interesting call. They didn't took his bush.
Speaker 2: So then it's fourth and one at the New Orleans fifteen.
Speaker 2: This is a three to nothing game. Fourth and one
Speaker 2: at the fifteen. This is late first half. You're down three,
Speaker 2: three to nothing. They showed took this push, but instead
Speaker 2: they hand off to Saquon little east west thing the
Speaker 2: poortent of things to come in the Raheem Morris discussion,
Speaker 2: tackled for no game. So again they eschew the field
Speaker 2: goal there, and you're like, what are you doing, Nick
Speaker 2: Sirianni like probably at some point.
Speaker 3: Nothing like showing push. I like, I like what you said.
Speaker 3: They showed tulas push. Great call by Yanky.
Speaker 2: I love it, Thank you, thank you. Third quarter, fourth
Speaker 2: and three from the New Orleans thirty four, also three
Speaker 2: to nothing, hurts, they go for it, hurts, sacked by
Speaker 2: Brian Borsey, so that fourth didn't work out. Then fourth
Speaker 2: quarter New Orleans. New Orleans finally tries a fourth and
Speaker 2: one and they miss it. By the way, Philadelphia, they
Speaker 2: made them pay for it. Four plays later, Saquon Scamperdon
Speaker 2: from sixty five out and it was seven to three Philly.
Speaker 2: So then New Orleans does take a field goal to
Speaker 2: cut it to seven to six. Then Philadelphia decides, after
Speaker 2: all these fourths where they went for it, they're like, hey,
Speaker 2: Jake Elliott, why don't you go out there and kick
Speaker 2: a sixty yarder? See if we can't extends. Of course,
Speaker 2: he misses it. New Orleans takes over at midfield and
Speaker 2: they end up New Orleans does taking the lead twelve
Speaker 2: to seven. Philadelphia ends up. They should have won this game.
Speaker 2: In the end, they get lucky because on a third
Speaker 2: and sixteen with one sixteen to go, Hurtz to Goddard
Speaker 2: for sixty one completely bailed him out. Saque scored after that,
Speaker 2: and Philly held on to win the game, but again
Speaker 2: a series at least three questionable fourth down decisions, both
Speaker 2: to go for it and then to kick a sixty
Speaker 2: yarder from Nick Siriani. He is candidate number one. Raheem
Speaker 2: Morris candidate number two.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Dodd, Okay, I'm putting this in with one
Speaker 3: of my really good end gamers because it's all related.
Speaker 3: I think one of my best in game plays of
Speaker 3: the week was Minnesota is trailing twenty two seventeen in
Speaker 3: the Sunday night matchup against the Chiefs. They're down five,
Speaker 3: they have some linemen injured already. They're having some struggle
Speaker 3: struggle movie the ball, but they now have the ball. Atlanta.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Atlanta. I always call Minnesota's Kirk Cousins, but
Speaker 3: it's first inten at the Atlanta eleven, and I'm looking
Speaker 3: at the Kansas City team total at twenty five and
Speaker 3: a half or twenty six and a half it's essentially
Speaker 3: the same number because they have twenty two points. Three
Speaker 3: and a half or four and a half at this
Speaker 3: point doesn't really make a difference. As soon as Atlanta
Speaker 3: gets the first down to go to first inten at
Speaker 3: the Atlanta twenty eight with about ten minutes to go,
Speaker 3: I'm saying to myself, I've got to play Kansas City
Speaker 3: under here. Why because even if Atlanta goes three and out,
Speaker 3: they'll probably be about at eight or nine minutes left,
Speaker 3: and there's a good chance if the Chiefs will just
Speaker 3: try to run out the clock and at worst case
Speaker 3: scenario get in Minnesota field area and kick a field
Speaker 3: goal to have twenty five points. That's what I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: worst case scenario is. So I say, I've got to
Speaker 3: play the under twenty six and a half under twenty
Speaker 3: five and a half. They were both about minus one
Speaker 3: twenty five at the time, so I immediately play it.
Speaker 3: And now we get all the way down because the
Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcons had a fifteen play drive, they get all
Speaker 3: all the way down with four minutes and twelve seconds
Speaker 3: to go. It's fourth and five at the Kansas City eight,
Speaker 3: and I text the guys and I say, okay, he's
Speaker 3: going to kick a field goal here right to go
Speaker 3: to twenty to twenty, because then if he gets the
Speaker 3: ball back, he's got his time out. If he gets
Speaker 3: the ball back, he just has to get a field
Speaker 3: goal twenty three twenty two. At the same time, you're thinking, well,
Speaker 3: can you give the ball back to Mahomes with four minutes?
Speaker 3: But we all agreed he's going to kick the field goal.
Speaker 3: Is that true? Will do we all agree that he
Speaker 3: was going to kick the field goal.
Speaker 4: I thought like sixty forty seventy thirty he'd kick it
Speaker 4: because I remember texting you guys before the third down
Speaker 4: player was like third and goal from the six or seven.
Speaker 4: I said, if he doesn't get another yard, he kicks
Speaker 4: the field goal, right and Gil said yes, And I
Speaker 4: was like, I kind of agree, and.
Speaker 2: Then he didn't.
Speaker 4: But I thought it was like, not like ninety ten,
Speaker 4: but more sixty seventy percent.
Speaker 3: Is that fair? Give I'm hoping he can. I'm hoping.
Speaker 3: I'm hoping he kicks the field goal to go to
Speaker 3: twenty two twenty and then Kansas City just tries to
Speaker 3: run out the clock and there's almost no chance of overtime.
Speaker 3: There's no chance of any trouble. I don't want him
Speaker 3: going for it because if he goes for it and
Speaker 3: gets it, now they thyar it. I could get a touchdown,
Speaker 3: get a two point conversion, go up twenty five to
Speaker 3: twenty two, then Kansas City could come back and tie
Speaker 3: twenty five all and then all of a sudden, my
Speaker 3: team total is in danger. So of course to torture me,
Speaker 3: the guy goes for it fourth and five. Now, that
Speaker 3: wasn't the worst scenario yet by Raheem Morris. I thought
Speaker 3: that was questionable, but okay, I'll give it to him.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: By the ways, let me just let me just interrupt
Speaker 2: your second That was a fourth Just to give the detail.
Speaker 2: That was fourth and five at the Kansas City six
Speaker 2: with four to h eight to go, where Raheem decided
Speaker 2: to go for it. It was it was the incomplete pass
Speaker 2: intended for London and in the end zone where the
Speaker 2: PI was not called.
Speaker 3: Right And by the way, I know everyone says the
Speaker 3: Chiefs get every call. Yeah, in the first half, Chris
Speaker 3: Jones got called for roughing the passer when he couldn't
Speaker 3: even see the quarterback. So you know, I agree, do
Speaker 3: me a favorite calm down with your Chiefs. Nonsense. Okay,
Speaker 3: So the Chiefs go out three and out right away,
Speaker 3: and now at Lana's got the ball again to twenty
Speaker 3: six to go, and the whole time we're going down,
Speaker 3: I'm texting the guys, don't score too early, Raheem, because
Speaker 3: if you get a touchdown to go to twenty three
Speaker 3: twenty two and you miss the two, or even if
Speaker 3: you make the two, you don't want to give Mahomes
Speaker 3: a chance to get an easy field goal to tie
Speaker 3: or win the game. So slow the hell down. Of course, Raheem.
Speaker 3: Mors can't hear me, even though I'm screaming it to
Speaker 3: him through the television because they're already at the Kansas
Speaker 3: City twenty twenty two yard line with a one forty
Speaker 3: four to go. How about running the ball once or twice, Raheem,
Speaker 3: slow it down. There's no need to get the score
Speaker 3: and let Mahomes go right down and get a field
Speaker 3: going to beat you. What are you doing?
Speaker 2: There was a series there was a series of Kansas
Speaker 2: City defensive penalties though that helped him matriculate. So part
Speaker 2: of that's, you know, I get.
Speaker 3: What you're saying, though, Okay, fine, you can mix in
Speaker 3: some runs. He doesn't want to do it. So now
Speaker 3: it's like one of three lefts. He gets a pass
Speaker 3: to London to the eleven yards. It's third and one
Speaker 3: with one oh three to go at the Kansas City
Speaker 3: thirteen he calls time out. Me everybody on the text
Speaker 3: threat goes apoplectic. Why are you calling time out with
Speaker 3: one oh three to go on a third and one
Speaker 3: in that spot? And even if you want to use
Speaker 3: your time out to discuss the play let twenty five
Speaker 3: seconds run down and call the time out with forty seconds,
Speaker 3: there's no need to call time out and save time
Speaker 3: for Atlanta, I mean for Kansas City? What are you doing? Raheim?
Speaker 3: And he's I'm literally gonna jump through the television and
Speaker 3: just like strangle this guy. I can't believe that he's
Speaker 3: not he calls time out. Okay, fine, so it's third
Speaker 3: and one. He goes for no game fifty six seconds left,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be fourth and one. This idiot calls time
Speaker 3: out when Amy Reid was trying to call time out.
Speaker 3: Andy Reid is trying to cald time out to save
Speaker 3: time for the Chiefs, but guess what, raheem beats them
Speaker 3: to him Raheem.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no no. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Andy Reid didn't realize how dumb Raheem was gonna be,
Speaker 3: so he beats him to the time out. Raheem's trying
Speaker 3: to give it to him. You can't make this stuff up.
Speaker 3: And by the way, these people make millions of dollars, okay,
Speaker 3: millions of dollars. And by the way, don't tell me
Speaker 3: there's such genius. And now, Andy Reid, I'll give it
Speaker 3: to you all day, Raheem Morris. I guarantee you any
Speaker 3: of us here watch as much film as Raheem Morris.
Speaker 3: We're not making that mistake. Okay. So now it's fourth
Speaker 3: down and one fifty seconds left, and Gilly, you can
Speaker 3: take it from here with a gorgeous play call on
Speaker 3: fourth and one from the Kansas City thirteen.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, fourth in inches of the Kansas City thirteen.
Speaker 2: We know that Cousins not in the same way that
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers never ever snuck in his entire career. Like
Speaker 2: there's this apruder film of one time Philip Rivers actually snuck.
Speaker 2: But Cousins is not a sneaker anymore, right, Like we knew,
Speaker 2: so that play was off the table, and instead of
Speaker 2: just going forward, straightforward try to get the inches, they
Speaker 2: do the old hand off east west of bijon three
Speaker 2: yard loss ballgame because Morris had used the time out
Speaker 2: and the math no longer worked out out.
Speaker 4: So that was that.
Speaker 2: That was the ballgame over by the way, Steve, I
Speaker 2: want one PostScript to this, Steve Pheasick, legitimate pace is ridiculous.
Speaker 2: The man is ridiculous. He he legitimately believes that Andy
Speaker 2: Reid should have been smarten. I can't even say it
Speaker 2: without laughing. Should have been smart enough to know that
Speaker 2: Raheem Morris was that dumb that he would have called
Speaker 2: the second time out.
Speaker 3: But the truth is he he was that dumb on
Speaker 3: the first one. So across the way, and this dummy's
Speaker 3: gonna do it to us again, give us a free timeout.
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: By the way, guys, if only we had had some
Speaker 1: indication that Raheem Morris was a better coordinator than a
Speaker 1: head coach, you know, we just had no idea that
Speaker 1: he was. That he didn't have the goods. If only
Speaker 1: we had had some indication that the Falcon's decision making
Speaker 1: this offseason was not great, you know, like that is
Speaker 1: no way to tell. There was no way to tell.
Speaker 3: No way to tell.
Speaker 4: Belichick. I can remember it pretty closely, I don't. I
Speaker 4: just draw a blank with the Raheem Morris first coaching tenure.
Speaker 4: Do you guys remember that well when he was the
Speaker 4: head coach? Was that the Josh Freeman air? I'm just
Speaker 4: to me, that's a blank spot for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember, well, either he was terribleized.
Speaker 2: I think I think we decided rahe Morris is the
Speaker 2: Dumbo of the week. We don't even need to.
Speaker 4: It's close, though, serious, it's close, but yeah, it's close,
Speaker 4: you know, Okay, ready for best?
Speaker 3: The other quick one, the other quick one, just thirty seconds,
Speaker 3: real quick on the bronch. I've had real success on
Speaker 3: the third quarters. I talk about the third quarters all
Speaker 3: the time on the megapod. But third quarter of the
Speaker 3: Giants game, it's twenty one to seven, Giants, Brown's getting
Speaker 3: the ball start the third quarter. I don't want the
Speaker 3: under until I see what the Browns adjustments are at halftime,
Speaker 3: because the first half they can't block at all, They
Speaker 3: literally cannot block at all, and Deshaun Watson has no time.
Speaker 3: I want to play under anything under seven and a
Speaker 3: half here in the third quarter. If I but I'm
Speaker 3: scared to play it at halftime because the Browns are
Speaker 3: going to come out in the first drive. As soon
Speaker 3: as the Browns went three and out in that third quarter,
Speaker 3: you could still get under seven and a half minus
Speaker 3: one thirty five. I immediately played it. Why because the
Speaker 3: Giants up twenty one to seven, are going to be
Speaker 3: as conservative as gonna be in the third quarter. They're
Speaker 3: gonna run the ball. They're gonna just try to get
Speaker 3: to the end of this game. So I take under
Speaker 3: seven and a half Giants right there. Didn't sweat at
Speaker 3: all because by the time the Browns get the ball
Speaker 3: back number one, they can't block number two. They can't
Speaker 3: score if you can't block, so even if they did,
Speaker 3: it was gonna take them forever to get a touchdown.
Speaker 3: I thought that third quarter, along with the Miami third
Speaker 3: quarter under or two juicy juicy third quarters.
Speaker 2: I also just think that the best, like we just
Speaker 2: give a Macro thing on in game, the Kansas City
Speaker 2: double dip right double dips are still the way to go.
Speaker 2: I think those are those are still if you're to
Speaker 2: ask what is generally the most advantageous moment to bet
Speaker 2: something in an NFL game. Remember, Kansas City had a
Speaker 2: double dip coming and they were they were losing, and
Speaker 2: the money line was very affordable at that point. And
Speaker 2: by the way, as I recall, it can't adjust to Gilly,
Speaker 2: what's that they do?
Speaker 3: It just better us a lot more, they really do.
Speaker 2: And in whatever what ended up happening was that Kansas
Speaker 2: City didn't actually execute the first half. But then your
Speaker 2: boy Curtis Cousins threw a pick right, and so can't
Speaker 2: say yeah. But anyway, I think that's generally speaking, even
Speaker 2: though they are better at it than they used to
Speaker 2: be for sure. All right, Drew, you are the guests, sir,
Speaker 2: Thank you by the.
Speaker 3: Way about Thursday Night, Thursday Night, Oh.
Speaker 2: Thursday Night, Thank you Todd. For God's sake, that's your podcast.
Speaker 2: Thank you bummer.
Speaker 1: I was going to go right into some of Atlanta bashing.
Speaker 2: I actually do have a best bet on the Thursday
Speaker 2: night game. Does anybody else? I do too?
Speaker 3: First, because he hasn't talked, and he's also he's done
Speaker 3: with his ice cream a sprinkles.
Speaker 4: I am going to late here. What do we have
Speaker 4: for the line? Gilly five five?
Speaker 2: It is five oh yeah, I got five and a half.
Speaker 2: Now five and a half and forty five.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, this is interesting. It's gone from four to
Speaker 4: six back down to like I saw four this morning,
Speaker 4: where it's all within the same like twenty four hours,
Speaker 4: which is unusual. A lot of dead numbers between four
Speaker 4: and six, but all lay with Dallas. I just think
Speaker 4: this is a spot where, hey, they're good as a favorite,
Speaker 4: they're good as a bully, they desperately need the game.
Speaker 4: I do think there's a little bit of a reaction
Speaker 4: and overreaction to hey, the Giants looked good last week.
Speaker 4: Dallas hasn't played well in a couple of weeks. Dallas
Speaker 4: has absolutely owned the Giants. And the Giants are missing.
Speaker 4: I don't know if they're missing or they're just hurt.
Speaker 4: I haven't gotten the official like we're not going to
Speaker 4: see the actives and actives for a while. I don't
Speaker 4: know if we have clarity. But the Giants secondary is
Speaker 4: all beat up. I think this is a good spot
Speaker 4: for Dallas to get back on track. So I'm okay
Speaker 4: Dallas winning this game by a touchdown plus and.
Speaker 2: Once they get a lead.
Speaker 4: This is the kind of team Daniel Jones where they
Speaker 4: can gamble on defense, make be aggressive for some turnovers,
Speaker 4: for some mistakes. So I'm okay laying in here with
Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2: I went under. I don't hate yours at all, Will
Speaker 2: I went under on this. By the way, did you
Speaker 2: see the stat This is the first time ever that
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys have played a road game on three
Speaker 2: days rest, and that every other team in the league
Speaker 2: has done it at least six times. Something like that
Speaker 2: one because they get a Thanksgiving home game. That's exactly right.
Speaker 2: Detroit had the same thing. But then Detroit played had
Speaker 2: this exact same situation last year I believe where they
Speaker 2: played on the road in the Week four. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna take the under. There's the only thing that worked
Speaker 2: for me last week was the Thursday night under. I'm
Speaker 2: doing it again this week. This one is you know,
Speaker 2: Dak has these weird home road splits. I don't know
Speaker 2: how much to make of that, but he did suck
Speaker 2: epa per dropback last year. He is like thirtieth in
Speaker 2: the league on the road. Not so good this year
Speaker 2: as compared to home. But the big thing with the
Speaker 2: Cowboys is Tyron Smith. The loss of him is like
Speaker 2: a huge deal. He allowed through through nine games. Last
Speaker 2: year took him nine games to allow eight pressures. Tyler Geiton,
Speaker 2: the kid that's replaced him, has already allowed that many
Speaker 2: in three games, and he's got to deal with Brian
Speaker 2: Burns Today. Brian Burns has generated fifteen pressures. That's ninth.
Speaker 2: In the end, NFL ceede Lam still has the ankle injury. Dallas,
Speaker 2: in terms of their EPA per rush attempt allowed is
Speaker 2: really bad. I'm not sure if New York can exploit
Speaker 2: it the same way that the Saints and Ravens can,
Speaker 2: but they could exploit it, perhaps enough to churn the clock.
Speaker 2: Dallas also, and this is the biggest thing also that
Speaker 2: the sort of the eyes don't catch. I love talking
Speaker 2: about red zone offense and red zone defense. Last year
Speaker 2: Cleveland really good defense, worst red zone touchdown percentage in
Speaker 2: the entire league. They gave up touchdowns at seventy one
Speaker 2: percent rate. Those things are generally regression candidates, and the
Speaker 2: Cowboys through three weeks have given up ninety percent touchdowns
Speaker 2: on opponents in the red zone. That should probably regress
Speaker 2: quickly tonight, I'm guessing so. And by the way, the
Speaker 2: general scoring environment in the NFL through three weeks is
Speaker 2: down two point seven points, so short, you know, it's
Speaker 2: a short turnaround for both of these teams. The Giants
Speaker 2: offense is not anything to be scared up to begin with.
Speaker 2: The Dallas defense has been suspect, So I think the
Speaker 2: combination of all those things, the regression in the red zone,
Speaker 2: forty five and a half is not a is not
Speaker 2: that low of a number. So I'm gonna go on
Speaker 2: forty five.
Speaker 3: Is it really forty five? And I think it's forty five?
Speaker 2: Right, it's forty five. You're correct, it's forty five and
Speaker 2: a half this morning, forty five.
Speaker 3: I love this pick by the day, Gilly, I love
Speaker 3: this pic. That's this is a great The Giants can't.
Speaker 2: Score, Yeah, but Willie scenario, that's a game that's a
Speaker 2: game script that scares me though, right Like if Dallas
Speaker 2: does get into this lead mode where they're just like
Speaker 2: and then they then the deep and then Mike and.
Speaker 3: You lose thirty, that's how that's how you lose exactly.
Speaker 2: That's my number one today, Drew, You're.
Speaker 1: On, Okay, I'll go to the aforementioned Falcons Saints game.
Speaker 1: Uh and uh. I'll take the Saints plus the points
Speaker 1: plus two and a half work for everybody. I actually
Speaker 1: bet the money line here. I think the Saints are
Speaker 1: the better team. I don't think, And really I just
Speaker 1: want to kind of key on, like there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people who have made a lot of noise this
Speaker 1: week about the Saints center being out and haven't acknowledged
Speaker 1: the fact that the Falcons center is out, and that
Speaker 1: the Falcons are doing an awful lot of shotgun snapping
Speaker 1: to Kirk Cousins right now, and good luck kind of
Speaker 1: on a in a high pressure week figuring that out,
Speaker 1: you know, entirely smoothly. But even more than that, Like,
Speaker 1: the backup center for the Saints is fine. That he was,
Speaker 1: you know, a serviceable player for the Bears last couple
Speaker 1: of years, and I have no issues with him stepping
Speaker 1: in and being fine. At the backup center for the
Speaker 1: Falcons is a man named Ryan new Zill And I
Speaker 1: think that just in general, if you want to have
Speaker 1: questions about both of these offenses, fine, If you want
Speaker 1: to have questions about the Falcons defense, you are correct.
Speaker 1: But I think there is a standout unit in this game,
Speaker 1: and it is the Saints defense. I'm expecting that to
Speaker 1: Mario Douglas will play. I'm expecting that Alantae Taylor will
Speaker 1: be over his illness, and I think the matchup of
Speaker 1: the coverage unit in particular against this kind of relatively
Speaker 1: group of skill position players for the Falcons is a
Speaker 1: solid positive matchup for Saints defense. And then I think
Speaker 1: that just in general, you can absolutely pray on this
Speaker 1: Falcons defense if you're Clint Kubiak. I like what he's
Speaker 1: doing so far this season with the Saints offense. Huge
Speaker 1: step forward from what we saw last year under Carmichael,
Speaker 1: and I think the Saints get a clean win and
Speaker 1: seized control of the NFC South, at least for the
Speaker 1: time being until we see some Saints Tampa Bay matchups
Speaker 1: later this season. So the fact that you're getting your
Speaker 1: better coach, in my opinion, with Dennis Allen. I know
Speaker 1: that he's not especially popular, but I am not a
Speaker 1: Raheem Morris guy, and you're getting the healthier quarterback is
Speaker 1: a little bit of icing on the kick there. So
Speaker 1: Saints plus the two and a half.
Speaker 2: For me, Saints plus the two and a half one
Speaker 2: of eight early games this week. So this last week
Speaker 2: it was seven and seven in the early window than
Speaker 2: five in the late window with a two month nights.
Speaker 2: This week we have eight in the early window, four
Speaker 2: in the afternoon with the two Monday nights. Do we
Speaker 2: prefer I know, we don't prefer like the ten to
Speaker 2: three or the nine three that we've seen, those are awful.
Speaker 2: Do we like seven to five of the best? I
Speaker 2: think we do, right, Seven and five is the best,
Speaker 2: absolutely the best?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Eight.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I just want better Sunday football.
Speaker 2: Oh you know what, Drew. I'm so glad you said this.
Speaker 2: Do you remember, Drew?
Speaker 1: This was you put him in whatever order you want,
Speaker 1: just give us a better football.
Speaker 2: So last year I remember, Drew, you and I saw
Speaker 2: this the same too. I remember last year was the
Speaker 2: first time that I ever said wow. And this was
Speaker 2: right around weeks three and four of last year too,
Speaker 2: where it was like, man, these last two weeks of
Speaker 2: Sunday football have felt like work, and I never feel
Speaker 2: that way on Sunday football. But this last week it
Speaker 2: came back to me again. Is that because of the
Speaker 2: three preseason games. Is that because they shortened preseason.
Speaker 1: It's more of probably just the young you know, the
Speaker 1: age and the experience of the quarterbacks. And the aggressive
Speaker 1: turnover of offensive coordinators. Like I think that it's just
Speaker 1: it's taking longer for teams to kind of find any
Speaker 1: footing on offense, and the old saying of defenses ahead
Speaker 1: offense has probably never been more true, especially early in
Speaker 1: the season. Now, whether this carries through is more of
Speaker 1: a quarterbacks just weren't ready to play, and you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see you with the likes of the Caleb Williams
Speaker 1: and the Will Levice's of the world if that just
Speaker 1: if they just continue to stub their toe. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm at least we have Daniels for now.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, we got Jayden Daniels, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: I I think it's all of that. And it's also like,
Speaker 2: you know, hey, Bryce Young, you had a terrible rookie year.
Speaker 2: We play you one one set of downs, like one
Speaker 2: drive was one drive in the preseason. Yep, we've seen enough.
Speaker 2: You're good. Come on. Really, So there's that will will
Speaker 2: or Todd who goes who goes first? Ye?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: By the way, I just want to talk about with
Speaker 3: me and Willie are always looking during the game at
Speaker 3: the pass attempts by the quarterback. Who's going to be trailing,
Speaker 3: and we should probably talk a little bit about that,
Speaker 3: because you know we've Willy jumped on I think it
Speaker 3: was Willy you jumped on it right away with Trevor
Speaker 3: Lawrence early on. You can see that the Jaguars defense
Speaker 3: did not decide to show up. I believe they were
Speaker 3: still on the bus halfway through the second quarter, and
Speaker 3: Willy immediately said, Hey, Lawrence is going to be slinging
Speaker 3: it the whole time, and Willie, your thoughts on that
Speaker 3: is just that. I think we should also talk about
Speaker 3: what's the baseline and halftime. It seems they want twenty
Speaker 3: and a half more passes for the so if a
Speaker 3: guy has fifteen attempts, they're going to put it at
Speaker 3: like thirty five and a half thirty six and a
Speaker 3: half for the second half. And then maybe you should
Speaker 3: talk about what we need to think we can happen,
Speaker 3: like can we move the sticks and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't done the math in terms of like
Speaker 4: this is the pregame number, this is how many has
Speaker 4: now in this how many they're projecting. But I've done it.
Speaker 4: We've done these enough where I can just sort of
Speaker 4: hyge it out when you and I I'll text back like, oh,
Speaker 4: it just looks too high.
Speaker 2: It's one of those things where if.
Speaker 4: He needs twenty five attempts in the second half, that's
Speaker 4: just that's a lot of attempts. But I would phrase
Speaker 4: it this way. It's rarely wrong when you get the
Speaker 4: sense of like a Monday night where it's seven to nothing,
Speaker 4: team is losing, the other team's driving, it's clearly about
Speaker 4: to be fourteen nothing. All right, it's gonna be one
Speaker 4: of these games they're gonna have to play catch up.
Speaker 4: It was Dak a couple week weeks ago against the Saints,
Speaker 4: where you can tell pretty early, right, this team's in
Speaker 4: a hole. You want a pretty good quarterback because you
Speaker 4: don't want a Will Levis or a Brissett where they're
Speaker 4: gonna go three and out. You want enough where you
Speaker 4: can kind of get those garbage yards. Garbage completions leads
Speaker 4: to more attempts. I mean, you always have to worry
Speaker 4: about the guy gets pulled and you get burned. We
Speaker 4: got burned, I think with Stafford a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 4: where you got taken out and if you played Lawrence late,
Speaker 4: you got burned because he was out for the last
Speaker 4: seven minutes. But just generally, a decent quarterback, their team
Speaker 4: falls behind it and they're gonna have to throw, They're
Speaker 4: gonna have to score, they're gonna have to throw. Catching
Speaker 4: that early usually it's in like the mid to high thirties,
Speaker 4: those are usually pretty good over so in terms of
Speaker 4: the quarterback attempts, and I.
Speaker 3: Think you want to be ahead of twenty and a
Speaker 3: half more going to the second and a half. Of course,
Speaker 3: it also matters who gets the ball first in the
Speaker 3: third quarter.
Speaker 4: If the Jaguars one of those games we tried to bet,
Speaker 4: I think it was the Burrow when I was like,
Speaker 4: he can't. Yeah, he's gonna get the attempts, but his
Speaker 4: defense like he can't get the ball back, which obviously
Speaker 4: that's a factor. So there's a lot of moving parts
Speaker 4: in it. But just in general, if you see a
Speaker 4: decent team, a decent quarterback fall behind, you know, pretty
Speaker 4: early fourteen seventeen, it's you know, you don't want to
Speaker 4: be in a situation where it's like ten to nothing.
Speaker 4: Then it's you can stick to like that run heavy
Speaker 4: script or one score gets him back in the game,
Speaker 4: or our neutral script. But if a good team falls behind,
Speaker 4: pretty big pretty early. Those attempts add up quickly. We
Speaker 4: also got burned on at the end the same game.
Speaker 4: At the end we had under forty one and a
Speaker 4: half rushing yards. He had nine at the half, and
Speaker 4: I was already counting the money because I thought he's
Speaker 4: not even going to get many carries in the second half.
Speaker 3: Down thirty four to three. Of course, we got burned
Speaker 3: because the Jaguars were doing that old stick where they're like, well,
Speaker 3: on first down, we better hand it off otherwise they're
Speaker 3: going to kill our quarterback. And at the Enronley for
Speaker 3: like a thousand, the one.
Speaker 4: That put it over the top, they pulled rant to
Speaker 4: figure out right, they're calling off the dogs. They putting
Speaker 4: Mac Jones first place, a little give up draw to
Speaker 4: a ten. Of course I can't get stopped. Of course
Speaker 4: he has to go for fifteen and beat us. But hey,
Speaker 4: it's it's one of those things good bets.
Speaker 3: I still thought it was a good bet. I thought
Speaker 3: it was a good bet by both of us. Anyway, Okay,
Speaker 3: first pick for me. And by the way, guys, there's
Speaker 3: definitely things that you can get on on these props
Speaker 3: in game. If you're allowed to bet props in game
Speaker 3: that are very advantageous. So that's why I bring it up,
Speaker 3: and me and Will you are always texting about it. Okay, anyways,
Speaker 3: my number one pick, I'm gonna go with your Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's my number two too. Yeah, I like.
Speaker 3: Detroit minus I believe three and a half. Correct? Is
Speaker 3: that what everyone said? Detroit minus Detroit minus three and a
Speaker 3: half either. Dan Campbell got in the old locker room
Speaker 3: and he said, hey, look, we're gonna run the football.
Speaker 3: You're gonna line up and see if you can beat us.
Speaker 3: But I don't think you can because our big boys
Speaker 3: are bigger than your big boys. We're gonna just push
Speaker 3: you around. And I think that's the identity of this
Speaker 3: Detroit Lions football team. That coach wants to just be
Speaker 3: a bully. He wants to line up and push your guys. Look,
Speaker 3: we're gonna spash you in the math. And if you
Speaker 3: can stop us, you can stop us. If you can't,
Speaker 3: you can't, and Detroit is going to hopefully do it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Look Seattle, what has Seattle done this year? The first
Speaker 3: game of the year. Who did Seattle play the first
Speaker 3: game of the year. I believe it was Bo Nicks
Speaker 3: at home with their good defensive coach, easy winner. Then
Speaker 3: they go to New England and they win in overtime. Again,
Speaker 3: you wouldn't exactly call it a world beater competition. Then
Speaker 3: they get Skyler Thompson. Now even I knew Skylar Thompson
Speaker 3: wasn't ready for the National Football League, everyone was like, oh,
Speaker 3: he played the playoff game. They only lost thirty four
Speaker 3: through he was eighteen for forty five. It had nothing
Speaker 3: to do with him. He was not ready for prime
Speaker 3: time Skyler Thompson. And again the Seahawks role. Now those
Speaker 3: three teams are not NFL caliber teams. Now the Detroit
Speaker 3: lines are going on the road, and you only you
Speaker 3: only have to lay three and a half against the
Speaker 3: Seahawk team, which may not be as good as this three.
Speaker 3: And oh warrants I have to take the Detroit line
Speaker 3: because we're gonna punch him in the math.
Speaker 2: Well, you and I match on this, Todd and Drew.
Speaker 2: Forgive me if I'm stealing some of your thunder on this,
Speaker 2: because Drew was on Numbers game earlier this week and
Speaker 2: we talked about it. Is exactly what you said about Seattle, right, Todd,
Speaker 2: that there's nothing they've done. And I have Mike McDonald
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year tickets, Drew, I know you do too,
Speaker 2: so only want the best for the Seahawks. My thing
Speaker 2: this offseason was they're gonna warm to Mike McDonald's defense
Speaker 2: over time. They've warmed to it very quickly, by the way,
Speaker 2: but they haven't really The three and oh they're three
Speaker 2: and oh seems a bit fugezy, right, seems a bit
Speaker 2: for all the reasons you stay. The flip side of
Speaker 2: that is Detroit's Detroit is kind of kind of feels
Speaker 2: like they're playing possum also, right, not playing possum on purpose,
Speaker 2: but they have not been as good as they should
Speaker 2: have been. They completely out yarded, if you will, outgained
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay. They doubled them up, if not more, in
Speaker 2: their loss to Tampa Bay. And then last week they
Speaker 2: were kind of listless against the Cardinals. But have their
Speaker 2: chances as well to blow that open, but they just
Speaker 2: never really would. So I think all both you put
Speaker 2: both of those things in right, Detroit sort of playing
Speaker 2: below level, Seattle perhaps outperforming, and you get this three
Speaker 2: and a half point line. I'm with you on Detroit.
Speaker 2: We'll go Willis Willi's willy, don't.
Speaker 4: Get here for I'm gonna just stick with it. I
Speaker 4: don't like it this week as much as in past weeks,
Speaker 4: but I said I'd stick with Steelers unders until they
Speaker 4: beat me, and they haven't beaten me yet, so I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go back to it. What do we have forty here?
Speaker 1: Forty? Forty is good?
Speaker 2: Forty is correct, Yes.
Speaker 4: Same handicap. Tomlin just wants to keep these games close
Speaker 4: and conservative and kick and punt and you know, kick
Speaker 4: his field goals and pot fourth and two or fourth
Speaker 4: and three from midfield. And uh, look, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Richardson's such a boomer bus player. I don't know how
Speaker 4: he factors into his handicap because he's just so daring
Speaker 4: with the ball but so inactate. That was an awful
Speaker 4: game he and Caleb Williams played last week. That was
Speaker 4: just a painful watch. Speaking to Drew and Gilly, your
Speaker 4: point about these games being tough to watch, that that
Speaker 4: led to charge That was a tough one. But I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna stick with it. I mean, these Steeler games
Speaker 4: are twenty to ten, twenty to twelve, thirteen to six.
Speaker 4: I look for another type of these game. It's gonna
Speaker 4: burn me one of these weeks, but I'll stick with
Speaker 4: it till beats me. So Steelers Colts under forty.
Speaker 3: I got a question for Drew dinsik Indians. Oh look
Speaker 3: the Stiller defense, right, it's a ferocious defense. We've got
Speaker 3: the most ferocias. Now, the question that I have for
Speaker 3: Yenza is the Rivers Casinos directly next to Akershuer stadiums
Speaker 3: charging one hundred dollars for self parking? Is that more
Speaker 3: vicious or bess vicious than the Stalwart D. I think
Speaker 3: the Stowart d is very vicious, but it's not at
Speaker 3: the level of one hundred dollars for self park Drew
Speaker 3: your thoughts.
Speaker 1: I'm going to say the parking is more vicious. I
Speaker 1: like the Steelers. I like the defense, but they you know,
Speaker 1: and much in the same way that you can kind
Speaker 1: of poke holes and the Seahawks about strength of opponent
Speaker 1: at this point in the season. Like the Steelers defensive,
Speaker 1: they've gotten to pick on the statue of Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: bo Nicks, you know, in his second start, and then
Speaker 1: last week kind of the statue of Herbert for a half,
Speaker 1: and then you know, the mess of heinikey, So yeah,
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 3: Herbert was moving it on. To be fair, Herbert was
Speaker 3: moving it on them at.
Speaker 1: Half yeah, yeah, yeah, I had the tackles got hurt too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the typical Tomlin walk of the offensive line gets
Speaker 4: hurt and Herbert, yeah, is.
Speaker 1: Quite strong this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah sure, Now, will would you say what you say?
Speaker 3: Eighty nine cents for the sprinkles at the at the
Speaker 3: Fever game is worse than the eighty dollars dining at
Speaker 3: the River's parking. It's a very close call.
Speaker 4: It is. It's not that there was eighty nine and
Speaker 4: we went to the drew that I went to the
Speaker 4: Fever Sun game last night and they're giving me a
Speaker 4: hard time about paying money because the tickets were too expensive,
Speaker 4: you guys thought for the game, which I didn't have
Speaker 4: a problem with the tickets. But then we went to
Speaker 4: Ben and Jerry's got some ice cream and there's like,
Speaker 4: maybe I don't know, a dozen sprinkles for like a
Speaker 4: dollar sprinkles, And that was that was a point of
Speaker 4: contention to catch you up here.
Speaker 2: Thanks for that recap, Thanks for you get to the
Speaker 2: audience up on it.
Speaker 1: Todd.
Speaker 2: You knew, Todd, you'd have a very likewise audience in Todd.
Speaker 2: He hates that kind of shit. By the way, NiCoT question,
Speaker 2: I expect.
Speaker 1: At least two dozen sprinkles if you're going to make
Speaker 1: me pay a dollar?
Speaker 2: Yeah, more more or ress? What was the word that
Speaker 2: you used there? More or rest or ress?
Speaker 3: Because the question is the defense. We got TJ.
Speaker 2: Watt.
Speaker 3: TJ Wat's worth fifty dollars of parking right there. Then
Speaker 3: EN's gotta think. Okay, now I get an ounther fifty
Speaker 3: dollars with the rest of the store team. Okay, so
Speaker 3: it's real close. It's probably like eighty nine to ninety
Speaker 3: nine for the stores. D and the one hundred. Tigin's
Speaker 3: got to go with the parking a little more vicious.
Speaker 3: I agree with Drew.
Speaker 2: What's your number two? Toddy? Okay?
Speaker 3: Will my number two? No, we'll, We'll just have to.
Speaker 4: I just had a very quick commentary that Todd has
Speaker 4: very little sense. You could tell he's a single guy
Speaker 4: of what things cost, Like, things cost money? How could
Speaker 4: you spend that much on the fever tickets? How can
Speaker 4: you spend that much? Have you been out of your house?
Speaker 2: Todd?
Speaker 4: Everything costs a lot of money. I don't know.
Speaker 3: There's a disconnect.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I do know that he has he has no.
Speaker 2: It's also that he also lives in nineteen eighty five,
Speaker 2: so he applies the same. He's like, I didn't pay
Speaker 2: for parking at three rivers in nineteen eighty five, Why.
Speaker 3: Should I pay parking now? I'm like, dude, it's like.
Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty five. So he's got that going.
Speaker 3: There are certain things on principle that I will not
Speaker 3: pay for. Okay, I'm so sorry. Okay, uh Now it's
Speaker 3: my turn for my number two pick, and then we
Speaker 3: go too for Drew. I am gonna go. I have
Speaker 3: a lot of questions about what I should do here
Speaker 3: with the second one, but I'm just gonna go back
Speaker 3: to the well will. He says, always bet the Steelers
Speaker 3: under I say, always bet the Commanders over the line
Speaker 3: is fifty. I believe with the Commanders. Am I correct?
Speaker 3: Is it fifty?
Speaker 2: It you live fifty? Yep?
Speaker 3: I think we all heard about how the Commanders haven't
Speaker 3: punted in two weeks. They got seven field goals against
Speaker 3: the Giants to go for twenty one to eighteen winner,
Speaker 3: and then they go into Cincinnati a horrible defense again,
Speaker 3: and they don't even punt there either. But by the way,
Speaker 3: they also didn't make the other team punt, so they
Speaker 3: are a gorgeous overteam. This is this Washington team because
Speaker 3: mister Daniels at quarterback is to steal the draft. I
Speaker 3: loved him at LSU. The guy run. Now, is he
Speaker 3: going to stay alive? I don't know, because he takes
Speaker 3: some shots that they're just You're like, is he still alive?
Speaker 3: He looks like he's one hundred and forty five pounds
Speaker 3: compared to these guys. I don't know if he's going
Speaker 3: to stay alive. But however, if he stands upright, he
Speaker 3: is going to score some points for the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 3: The Washington Commanders defense is prendous. It is so bad
Speaker 3: the defense. So they're gonna give up thirty thirty points
Speaker 3: a game. So now you're going to Arizona. Kyler Murray
Speaker 3: is gonna be running around like crazy. Daniels is gonna
Speaker 3: be running around like crazy. It's not like Arizona's defense
Speaker 3: is any good. How are we not going to go
Speaker 3: over fifty? And it's it's disguised because of the fact
Speaker 3: the Giants game only went twenty one to eighteen, and
Speaker 3: that was a game that could have been a thirty
Speaker 3: point score if they went to had seven field goals right,
Speaker 3: And the first game of the week, the Commanders lost
Speaker 3: thirty seven to twenty against Tampa Bay. So I think
Speaker 3: the Commanders are going to be an over machine this year.
Speaker 3: No defense and very good offense spells over. And it's
Speaker 3: not like Arizona isn't an over team too. Give me
Speaker 3: over fifty in the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 2: That all checks out. Man, Jayden, I'm so excited about
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels as everybody who's a Skins fan is. But
Speaker 2: everybody has the same RG three. You know what's it called?
Speaker 2: The TSD PTSD. Thank you PTSD. Just please stay healthy,
Speaker 2: please for God's sakes. My favorite part of that was,
Speaker 2: well two things. One, he finally found out who Terry
Speaker 2: McLaurin was, which was awesome because Terry McLaurin is just incomparable.
Speaker 2: Have you heard me say that you were? And the
Speaker 2: other thing was after the game. Did you see the
Speaker 2: interview where where Daniels had sort of the presence of
Speaker 2: mind to say because he threw the first touchdown to
Speaker 2: Trent Scott the tackle and he goes, that's going to
Speaker 2: be a great answer to a trivia question years now,
Speaker 2: which I thought was like, oh, I like that. He's like, ah,
Speaker 2: I'm going to be awesome, because I was saying in
Speaker 2: the first couple of weeks, I'm like, he's so comfortable
Speaker 2: that I'm a little worried he's too comfortable. And now
Speaker 2: I can't. You can't even say that anymore. He just
Speaker 2: looks like the game is he's so the stage is
Speaker 2: not too big for him at all. It's been fantastic
Speaker 2: and I love him at ASU too. Todd even before
Speaker 2: LSU loved those latens.
Speaker 3: Where he would you know, her Edwards tried to Herm
Speaker 3: Edwards tried to defend against him. Herm Edwards and his
Speaker 3: nineteen seventies NFL bull crap was trying to to dampen
Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels with the third and five runs to the fullback.
Speaker 3: So he was even better he even though his coach
Speaker 3: was holding him back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that Terry mccaorn touchdown was top five all players
Speaker 1: this season for sure, and if you're a Commanders fan,
Speaker 1: be sure to check out the the the kind of
Speaker 1: recap of the block that set that up by Jeremy McNichols,
Speaker 1: who was the running back spelling the injured Austin Eckler.
Speaker 1: He takes Jermaine Pratt and just freaking fork lifts him,
Speaker 1: dumps him. It is. It is quite awesome. And you
Speaker 1: can tell he has no idea, like what the what
Speaker 1: the pressure? You know, what is what is responsibilities? He's like,
Speaker 1: They're like, who do I have? Likes? He's like, you know,
Speaker 1: asking Daniels and as they're lined up, it was. It
Speaker 1: was quite cool. So great play U and love the command.
Speaker 1: I just love it. I hope they keep keep giving
Speaker 1: us the show because they're they're very fun to watch.
Speaker 2: The next gen stats I believe it was that said
Speaker 2: it was just over a ten percent success probability on
Speaker 2: that touchdown. Sure because he was about to get blasted.
Speaker 2: And then McLaurin he just know it's like mccluurin was
Speaker 2: at the twenty yard line when he released the ball.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome.
Speaker 1: Okay, second play for me. I'm going to go back
Speaker 1: to the NFC South and I'm going to take another dog.
Speaker 1: This time. We're going with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers against
Speaker 1: the injured Philadelphia Eagles. I can get a I don't
Speaker 1: know two one and a half. Two and a half
Speaker 1: doesn't matter to me. I played the money line here
Speaker 1: for the Bucks for record keeping purposes, I want to
Speaker 1: go to so I'll do Bucks plus two. The handicap
Speaker 1: is pretty straightforward. I'm expecting the Bucks offensive line to
Speaker 1: be at full strength here. That matters. I think the
Speaker 1: ability to protect Baker Mayfield brings out the best in
Speaker 1: him in terms of quarterback play, and I think the
Speaker 1: weapons of Godwin and Evans are going to be an
Speaker 1: extremely difficult test for this still figuring it out secondary
Speaker 1: from Philadelphia, So I do think the Buccaneers are going
Speaker 1: to be able to control game. State put a little
Speaker 1: bit of scoreboard pressure on Philadelphia here, and then the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia offense, like it hasn't really been broadly covered, but like, yeah,
Speaker 1: making Philly a favorite on the road of this magnitude
Speaker 1: if they were fully healthy. I'm not going to take
Speaker 1: exception to that. But I do not think there is
Speaker 1: a very strong likelihood at all that DeVante Smith plays.
Speaker 1: I think it is also unlikely that aj Brown is
Speaker 1: ready to go, and I think it is unlikely that
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson is ready to go. If you are keeping track,
Speaker 1: those are probably three of the foremost important Philadelphia Eagles
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball. Maybe they are
Speaker 1: three of their most important players period. And Jalen Hurtz
Speaker 1: had the narrative beating all off season long that he
Speaker 1: did not have the answers in their free fall last year.
Speaker 1: He did not have the answers when he was blitzed,
Speaker 1: and that was no more apparent than when he went
Speaker 1: against Todd Bowles in the playoffs. And Todd Bowles is
Speaker 1: blitzing at an absolutely absurd rate. Still, you combine that
Speaker 1: with now he's going to have to figure out protection
Speaker 1: in the absence of uh, you know, the key key
Speaker 1: blocker and Lane Johnson, and he's gonna have to figure
Speaker 1: out who he's going to with hot reads in the
Speaker 1: absence of his two most important receivers. This to me
Speaker 1: looks like a huge, huge problem for Philadelphia. I think
Speaker 1: the wrong team is favored, and I will take the
Speaker 1: home team Buccaneers. I bet them out right, But I
Speaker 1: like plus two as well, and.
Speaker 2: I think I don't have them at my at my
Speaker 2: disposal right here. Lane Johnson, to your point, I think
Speaker 2: there are stats on him going way back because he's
Speaker 2: oft injured, and there are future statistics when Lane Johnson plays,
Speaker 2: when Lane Johnson doesn't play, how absolutely diametrically opposed. Those
Speaker 2: are like Philly without him is terrible and Philly with
Speaker 2: him is great.
Speaker 1: And also, like you guys brought it up in the
Speaker 1: boneheaded coaching convo, Nick Sirianni, I don't know what in
Speaker 1: the world he's doing, Like it doesn't feel that. I
Speaker 1: know they have a very good analytics department in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Those guys must be pulling your hair out. And when
Speaker 1: he because he's just kind of just doing like magic
Speaker 1: gate ball, going forward, kicking the play calls have been terrible,
Speaker 1: Like I really do not understand what is going on
Speaker 1: right now with kind of the decision making. And he's
Speaker 1: he's he's making decisions. You know, he's he's acting like
Speaker 1: a beleaguered coach, which I think he is. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: blackjack player, trying to get it all done. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: you go, crazy, that's exactly great camp. Great camp. And
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I'm not my voto. No confidence is in
Speaker 1: on Syrian.
Speaker 2: All right, what's your final one.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with the dogs. I'm going to take
Speaker 1: the bait. I'm the mouse that's taking the cheese. This
Speaker 1: week Buffalo Bills for me on Sunday and football. This
Speaker 1: team is a truck. I honestly am I know. I'll
Speaker 1: take two. It's like reasonable to me. There's two n
Speaker 1: apps out there, but to two is fine.
Speaker 3: We get to decide what you get.
Speaker 1: Okay, I met the money line. I took the money
Speaker 1: line and all three of these dogs for or.
Speaker 3: For full transperienced Trew doesn't realize he does get to
Speaker 3: be his own uh you know sec here. He thinks
Speaker 3: he's like to happens and bee. No, no, it doesn't
Speaker 3: work like too Okay, so he's getting the Bills plus two. Okay.
Speaker 1: In in the preseason when this line was also expected
Speaker 1: to be in this range, I would not have taken exception.
Speaker 1: I would have said, yes, this Ravens team is unbelievable
Speaker 1: at stopping the run, and the Bills seem to want
Speaker 1: to be a running team without really any proof of
Speaker 1: concept that they have weapons in the passing game who
Speaker 1: can do anything. And yeah, this is a nice matchup
Speaker 1: for a Ravens defense to uh, you know, to keep
Speaker 1: the game in check and Bill's defense missing Milano questions
Speaker 1: about the secondary. Are they going to have a pass rush?
Speaker 1: All of this, you know, really spells trouble I think
Speaker 1: for the Bills in this spot. So I'm fine with
Speaker 1: the Ravens being favorite now. I think with the information
Speaker 1: we have through three weeks, you have to acknowledge the
Speaker 1: fact that Josh Allen is playing the best quarterback in
Speaker 1: the NFL by margin. I think you have to acknowledge
Speaker 1: the fact that the Buffalo Bills offensive line is elite,
Speaker 1: and I think you have to acknowledge the fact that
Speaker 1: the Ravens defense is missing a one Mike McDonald in
Speaker 1: terms of kind of being as conceptually sound, particularly in
Speaker 1: past defense, as they were last year. They're still amazing
Speaker 1: and stopping the run, but this is a team that
Speaker 1: can be beat through the air, and I do think
Speaker 1: that the Buffalo Bills offense can continue their success, and
Speaker 1: it all kind of comes down to Josh Allen continue
Speaker 1: to avoid making the key mistake. In my opinion, anyone
Speaker 1: who is betting the Ravens is basically expecting that this
Speaker 1: is the game There's going to be some sort of
Speaker 1: regression for Allen and turnovers, and I got to tell you,
Speaker 1: I've seen enough like he looks like he is a
Speaker 1: much more mature player than the guy that was out
Speaker 1: there the last handful of years. He still has the
Speaker 1: elite skill set that it makes him a top two
Speaker 1: player in the NFL period, and I think riding him
Speaker 1: while he's on this heater is the obvious correct decision.
Speaker 1: And then when you flip the coin and you tell me,
Speaker 1: how are the Ravens going to deal with the negative
Speaker 1: game stated for the Manifests, This passing pass catching unit
Speaker 1: for the Ravens stinks, and they really have no one
Speaker 1: that can generate significant separation. And now they're going up
Speaker 1: against the secondary that has you know, absolute elite cover
Speaker 1: corner so far out of Christian Benford. If you haven't
Speaker 1: heard that name already, go look at some of the
Speaker 1: advanced sets of the stats about what he's doing in
Speaker 1: terms of preventing separation and his on ball you know,
Speaker 1: his his ability to break up passes. He is playing
Speaker 1: at a probe CB one, Pro Bowl level to this
Speaker 1: point in the season and really going back to the
Speaker 1: end of last season. So I don't know that that
Speaker 1: can be dismissed. And I think Douglas is equally equally
Speaker 1: good and at shutting down wide receiver two or the
Speaker 1: tight end and safeties are playing well. Pass rush is
Speaker 1: excellent against Baltimore O line that has huge question marks
Speaker 1: for me. So I think Buffalo better in both trenches,
Speaker 1: better quarterback, and just in general. You know, the team
Speaker 1: that ought to be small favorite here. So give me
Speaker 1: a plus.
Speaker 3: Two, Toddy, now here was the thing. I was gonna
Speaker 3: take the Ravens against Drew's Bills plus two. You know what,
Speaker 3: So screwed.
Speaker 2: Guy.
Speaker 1: I don't mind going up against this week.
Speaker 3: I acknowledge it comes in all relaxed at the long hair.
Speaker 3: He's probably got like a harem of ladies just outside
Speaker 3: the camera shot and a tremendous calming background in the back.
Speaker 3: I mean, this guy just looks like he's living the life.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to go against him, that's all, Gilly,
Speaker 3: I'm going against him. Call me crazy. I'm gonna take
Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens at minus two. Okay. Now here's by
Speaker 3: the way, I agree with everything that Drew said. The
Speaker 3: Bills have been playing out of their minds. Okay, the
Speaker 3: Bills are playing outstanding football. By the way, that Monday
Speaker 3: night football game, it wasn't even a game. After like
Speaker 3: two seconds, you could tell the game was over and
Speaker 3: and so, I mean, Buffalo has been unbelievable and they
Speaker 3: cry Miami. Now the game before that against Arizona, they
Speaker 3: were a little suspect on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 3: But you know, overall, the Bills really look good. However, however,
Speaker 3: it's the National Football League. I've been betting on these
Speaker 3: games for too long to know that when a team
Speaker 3: beats a team thirty one to ten, like they did
Speaker 3: against Miami, then they come out the next week and
Speaker 3: beat Jacksonville eight hundred to nothing like they did. Can
Speaker 3: they cover the spread three weeks in a row like
Speaker 3: that against a team that's a very good team. Now,
Speaker 3: on top of that, Baltimore's giving points. Right, So now
Speaker 3: everybody and their brothers going, wait, I get the Bills,
Speaker 3: the best team almost in football, and I get points.
Speaker 3: That to me sounds like trouble city in the National
Speaker 3: Football League. You got to go against Harbaugh? Is it home?
Speaker 3: They blew the game against the Raiders that they should
Speaker 3: have easily won by a thousand. Right now, you're asking
Speaker 3: Harbaugh to do a little Harbaugh potion. You know Harbaugh
Speaker 3: and these big games, he cooks up some potions. I
Speaker 3: think he's gonna cook up some defensive potions for this
Speaker 3: Bills squad somehow slow them down. And it's not like
Speaker 3: the Ravens aren't good. They just went into Big d
Speaker 3: and just crush Dallas, absolutely crush their hopes, all their hopes,
Speaker 3: all their dreams down, all their hopes down right, So
Speaker 3: the Ravens, to me, that was a little rounds for
Speaker 3: all your hopes down, all your dreams, dout your faith
Speaker 3: sitting over there. Anyways, The point is, I just like
Speaker 3: the spot. I love the spot here Baltimore. If they're
Speaker 3: gonna if they're gonna win one of these big games,
Speaker 3: this is the one. You gotta think. The Bills come
Speaker 3: in a little fat and happy. I like Baltimore minus too.
Speaker 3: If we get the turnovers, we're gonna win the game.
Speaker 3: Baltimore minus two.
Speaker 2: I'll just jump in Will because I know you have
Speaker 2: one more. But I also I hate to have two
Speaker 2: that are exactly like Todd. I feel like the fledgling
Speaker 2: radio station that's trying to get better ratings against the
Speaker 2: big glast, so I just play the same songs. But
Speaker 2: for me, the number three pick was between the Broncos
Speaker 2: catching seven and a half and taking Baltimore minus two,
Speaker 2: and ultimately I can't the bow Nicks versus that Jets
Speaker 2: defense scenario where they just get blasted. I couldn't do it,
Speaker 2: even though I think seven and a half is probably too.
Speaker 2: It's Baltimore, and for me, it's just about having not
Speaker 2: shedding my priors from before the season, right. I just
Speaker 2: think Baltimore is the better football team and as good
Speaker 2: as Buffalo has been. And I agree with everything Drew
Speaker 2: is saying, there's nothing you said that was wrong. They
Speaker 2: have to be able to come up with something that
Speaker 2: stops these Josh Allen, Oh, you know what, I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna run the ball up the middle now on a
Speaker 2: designed run like. There has to be some kind of
Speaker 2: countermeasure to this, and I do think that Baltimore will
Speaker 2: be able to come up with it. I agree with
Speaker 2: the Mike McDonald's stuff. They're clearly not as good on
Speaker 2: defense without him bringing blitzes from every which way where
Speaker 2: the quarterback can't figure it out. And Josh Allen, every
Speaker 2: which way you slice it up, uh total QBR passer
Speaker 2: rating EPA per play, he's number one with a bullet
Speaker 2: and all this, and yet I think the Baltimore Ravens
Speaker 2: are a good football team and that they will not
Speaker 2: fall to one in three and they will win this
Speaker 2: football game. I'm taking Baltimore minus two as well, Willy.
Speaker 1: I guess can tell you guess if if the Rave,
Speaker 1: if the if the Buffalo Bills truck continues, they have
Speaker 1: three games in a row on the road, Ravens, Texans, Jets.
Speaker 1: This is a nightmare stretch. I would say that the
Speaker 1: one of the aspects of overperforming that you can usually capitalize,
Speaker 1: like you guys are kind of making out, is when
Speaker 1: the market overreacts and it's not yet right, like a
Speaker 1: win on Sunday Night Football, a third straight cover that's
Speaker 1: going to cause a flip to where the Texans game.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're favored on the road against the Texans, like
Speaker 1: I think, you you know, don't don't lose hope, and
Speaker 1: don't don't be on the wrong side of this next
Speaker 1: to it if if the Bills take care of business,
Speaker 1: because yeah, there's you know, there are opportunities coming up.
Speaker 1: I think to fade these guys, but I just not
Speaker 1: seen it with this particular Ravens team. So we'll see.
Speaker 2: We have Shmack talking possibilities comes Sunday Monday. All right, Will,
Speaker 2: what's the last one? Because my juice is running out.
Speaker 4: Okay, do we have a Can I get a forty
Speaker 4: three in Tampa Philly? Since you're running out of time,
Speaker 4: you can.
Speaker 2: Just say yes, forty three in Tampa Philly.
Speaker 1: No, it's like that's widely available.
Speaker 4: Yepes. Actually, I'm like you guys, yeah, I'm like you
Speaker 4: guys actually respect Drew's handicapping acumens. So I'm gonna kind
Speaker 4: of borrow from what he's thinking. I just I don't
Speaker 4: like this Philly offense in this spot. Tampa plays at
Speaker 4: a very slow pace. They're at the bottom of the
Speaker 4: league in terms of plays per game. Bowls, as Drew mentioned,
Speaker 4: did a great job against Herts last year in the
Speaker 4: playoff game, held him to nine points. And if you're
Speaker 4: a Philly with no Brown, no Smith, maybe Becton's wearing
Speaker 4: a thing on his finger with a dislocated finger, Lane Johnson.
Speaker 4: All of those reasons to me, this is just more
Speaker 4: of a grinded out game. So I'm gonna play another
Speaker 4: under here. I'll go under forty three. And I don't
Speaker 4: know how you guys feel. I just I don't have
Speaker 4: a great feel for these teams in terms of the
Speaker 4: size of like who to back, who not to I
Speaker 4: just have a hard time getting a sense for any
Speaker 4: of these teams. So hopefully I'll have a better luck
Speaker 4: here with an under well.
Speaker 2: I was saying last week, I was like, I never
Speaker 2: do totals on the megapod, right, never, And the fact
Speaker 2: that I'm doing one a week and now all of
Speaker 2: a sudden is it says exactly what you're saying, will Like,
Speaker 2: I just none of these sides, Like, there's not enough
Speaker 2: of these that I love to play for sure. Teaser
Speaker 2: of the week drew two legs six point teaser.
Speaker 1: Your fake Yeah give me, yeah, give me, give me
Speaker 1: two teams at home in the Wong zone. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tease the Jet from seven and a half to one
Speaker 1: and a half, and I'm gonna tease the Colts from
Speaker 1: one and a half to seven and a half. I
Speaker 1: think the Colts Steelers game is going to be competitive.
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers just in general, still have the
Speaker 1: lot to prove in terms of being able to run
Speaker 1: an offense, particularly with both running backs being injured now.
Speaker 1: And I think that's a game that's decided by a
Speaker 1: field goal either way, So happy to put me on
Speaker 1: the other side of seven and the Jets. This is
Speaker 1: it's kind of weird. The Broncos defense is being a
Speaker 1: little bit celebrated for their early season performance, but I
Speaker 1: think the absence of Alex Singleton is going to be
Speaker 1: significantly felt here. He was their only good linebacker. And
Speaker 1: I think the Jets might not punt in this contest.
Speaker 1: So give me Jets Colts as home teams. Low totals,
Speaker 1: long zone.
Speaker 2: Speaking of EPA per play, Anthony richardson thirty second below, Bryce.
Speaker 1: Young, this is a huge long week. By the way, it.
Speaker 2: Is a huge longer. You are right about that.
Speaker 1: There's like ten Yeah, there's like six choices here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll keep it prettyf I'll go Bucks and I'll
Speaker 4: go Colts for a lot of the reasons Drew mentioned.
Speaker 2: I think they should be closer games.
Speaker 4: Steelersn't blow anybody out, So Bucks Colts. By the way,
Speaker 4: your Tigers have cut it to three two for anyone
Speaker 4: looking for baseball updates from hours ago or days ago.
Speaker 1: By the time he listened to this.
Speaker 2: I have the Tigers to make it plus four fifty.
Speaker 2: I have the Braves to lose at uh you have
Speaker 2: the Braves lose at fifteen to one. I have it
Speaker 2: at plus seven to fifty. Todd, you're on the Braves
Speaker 2: too to miss the playoffs. Also, yes, all right, what's
Speaker 2: your teaser, Toddy?
Speaker 3: My teaser is going to be the Jets minus one
Speaker 3: and a half. We've talked enough about why we don't
Speaker 3: think the Jets are losing this game. I believe you know,
Speaker 3: come on, Bonux, seriously, Jets minus. Although he did have
Speaker 3: one of the greatest scrambles in NFL history last week.
Speaker 3: Did he's got one scramble where he got out of
Speaker 3: like four ice backing him bad Jet?
Speaker 4: Ye?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looked okay. But I don't think he's not
Speaker 3: going to beat the Jets. Jets minus the one and
Speaker 3: a half and give me the Bucks plus the eight.
Speaker 3: I believe the Bucks can keep it close here with all.
Speaker 3: The only thing I want to say about the Eagles
Speaker 3: is it sure seems to me when I watch the
Speaker 3: game the Jalen Hurts goes back to pass and hats
Speaker 3: the ball for about one hundred years a lot of
Speaker 3: the plays, and then he just runs out to the
Speaker 3: right and he throws it away or tries to run
Speaker 3: for it. I don't think that downfield passing game looks
Speaker 3: very good for the Eagles. And now you've got all
Speaker 3: those wide receivers out. Give me the Bucks plus the eight.
Speaker 2: I'm taking the Jets like so many here, and I
Speaker 2: am going to take the Saints longing wonging them through
Speaker 2: the three and the seven, because I don't see the
Speaker 2: Falcons blowing them in any scenario. So Saints Jets for
Speaker 2: Young Gil. Final two questions of each and every megapod,
Speaker 2: first one, Which of the big favorites is the most
Speaker 2: likely to lose? Outright? Not that many choices this week?
Speaker 2: The Jets seven and a half point favorites at home
Speaker 2: against the Broncos, the Niners ten and a half point
Speaker 2: favorites at home against the Patriots, Chiefs seven point favorites
Speaker 2: on the road against the Charge. We were limited to
Speaker 2: limited to those three which drew. If one of them loses,
Speaker 2: who's it gonna be?
Speaker 1: Oh man? I just wanted to note that it's fascinating
Speaker 1: that the big money today came in on the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: Moved that off of six and a half bounce down
Speaker 1: to five and a half across six is a big move.
Speaker 1: I'm going to say that the Chiefs are the most
Speaker 1: likely to lose. And this seems insane to say out loud,
Speaker 1: but I just I think it's gone a little bit
Speaker 1: missed in the three games that they've know, the three
Speaker 1: wins so far, that every single high leverage opportunity for
Speaker 1: this offense to put away games they have failed every
Speaker 1: single one. They're getting out to leads, they're playing with leads,
Speaker 1: but they're not doing sort of the classic you know,
Speaker 1: Andy Reid Mahomes put the game away with, you know,
Speaker 1: the drive that sucks five minutes off the clock at
Speaker 1: the end of the fourth quarter to you know, make it,
Speaker 1: make it, make it a clean win. They've been a
Speaker 1: little lucky, and I think it sounds like Herbert is
Speaker 1: going to try to push through this. I know that
Speaker 1: everybody else is hurt here for the Chargers, but yeah,
Speaker 1: this is uh, this is again probably gonna you know,
Speaker 1: I think this is going to be a competitive game,
Speaker 1: and I think of the big favorites, I would be
Speaker 1: the most concerned about the the Chiefs, just based on
Speaker 1: a little bit of inflation in terms of how people
Speaker 1: are rating them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the Niners, as banged up as they are,
Speaker 2: they really going to lose to the Patriots, and are
Speaker 2: the Jets that defense really going to lose to Bonnix?
Speaker 2: Is it is the chief the chief for everybody? Well,
Speaker 2: i'm gonna say Chiefs. I'll say chiefs.
Speaker 3: Yees.
Speaker 4: I would actually I'd be surprised if Herbert played. I
Speaker 4: haven't read the latest, but they have a by next week.
Speaker 4: They're beat up on the offensive line, though. Does the
Speaker 4: market think Herbert's playing? Because this line, even with.
Speaker 1: Herbert, Herbert calls. Herbert has called his own number so
Speaker 1: many times to this career that it's crazy. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: how you you know, you know this sort of stuff,
Speaker 1: the kloak and dagger stuff where it's like literally like no,
Speaker 1: he can't you can't play, you can't play, he won't play.
Speaker 1: He's not going, Oh surprise, I'm going, you know, like
Speaker 1: he he is. I don't know that it's smart. It's
Speaker 1: never rational, but it sounds like he's going to push
Speaker 1: himself out there.
Speaker 3: Wore by the way, can yes he did, because we're
Speaker 3: almost done the Chiefs did. I just want to say
Speaker 3: one thing about the Chiefs. I think that Andy Reid
Speaker 3: has made the Chiefs running game. Dinker ball passes to
Speaker 3: Rice What I mean by dinker ball passes is like
Speaker 3: Mahomes goes back two steps, flips it to Rice and
Speaker 3: it's like either behind the line of scrimmage or just
Speaker 3: pass the line of scrimmage and Rice goes for like
Speaker 3: six or seven yards instead of just handing the ball
Speaker 3: to whoever they have back there, Steel or whoever now
Speaker 3: is running. Yeah, they missed. My point is if you
Speaker 3: see that early in the game where Rice is getting
Speaker 3: targeted almost every play play, Rice over catches because it's
Speaker 3: I don't think they can make the number high. You see,
Speaker 3: what'd you say.
Speaker 2: He's the whole You feel like he's the whole offense,
Speaker 2: Like Travis Kelsey looks like he lost a step and
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 3: He's had dating issues. He's had dating issues, and that's
Speaker 3: the thing. But I just think, like I said to
Speaker 3: you at halftime, Rice, I believe had like six or
Speaker 3: seven catches at halftime, and they made it like ten
Speaker 3: and a half and it still wasn't high enough because
Speaker 3: they just every time they need four or five yards,
Speaker 3: they just flip it to Rice. You know. But anyways,
Speaker 3: I think Chiefs to lose just because it's harrorball. Maybe
Speaker 3: hardball will cook something.
Speaker 2: Up all right, final question, Drew, we live in a
Speaker 2: bizarre world. You pick a side or you bet a
Speaker 2: side in every single game, but you get one free pass.
Speaker 2: What game do you want?
Speaker 1: No part of the easiest question of the day, Gil,
Speaker 1: It's the Browns, Raiders.
Speaker 2: Rounds, Raiders. Need you even explain that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I just how do you radio of these teams right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Do we know who there's starting a quarterback for
Speaker 2: the Raiders. Doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing it's going to be Gardner Minshew, probably doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Everybody on the Browns is hurt. Yeah, your two most
Speaker 1: important players in this game are Garrett and Crosby. They're
Speaker 1: both missing time. They both know I no read on
Speaker 1: either if either guy goes or if either guy goes,
Speaker 1: if they're effective. Deshaun Watson might be the bortsch quarterback
Speaker 1: playing right now now that Bryce Young's out of the mix. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have I you could. You could come from the
Speaker 1: future and tell me that anything happened in this game,
Speaker 1: and I'm just going to shrug and say, yeah, okay, sure.
Speaker 1: Thirty seven three Browns, all right? Uh, twenty five twenty
Speaker 1: five to two Raiders one. Oh wow, that's a weird score. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would believe anything.
Speaker 2: That comment about Watson being the worst now that Bryce
Speaker 2: Young is out. That's pretty strong. That's pretty strong.
Speaker 1: Take more sure, what would you take? I would take
Speaker 1: Lawrence over Watson in a heartbeat right now, in a heartbeat.
Speaker 3: The thing is there's nobody blalking Drew. The other thing
Speaker 3: is he doesn't get any blocking. If you watch that
Speaker 3: Giants game carefully, he doesn't even get a minute.
Speaker 1: It looks like whatever happened to his shoulder is still
Speaker 1: impacting his ability to make down till pass this he
Speaker 1: only has like four frows past ten yards in his
Speaker 1: arm at any given week. He put has to put his
Speaker 1: whole body into it, which means he needs to have
Speaker 1: a perfectly clean pocket to do it. And his mechanics.
Speaker 1: If you just watch what's going on with his feet
Speaker 1: as he's trying to hit his intermediate stuff, it's just
Speaker 1: an absolute shit show. Like he is just he's just
Speaker 1: fundamentally broken. It looks like and I don't Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: not winning with that guy.
Speaker 2: It's very reminiscent of RG three after the injuries. It's
Speaker 2: like the sort of like not spoken part about RG three,
Speaker 2: like yeah, he got hurt in his career got ruined,
Speaker 2: but his mechanics after he was out for a long
Speaker 2: time just went out the window.
Speaker 3: And he hasn't gotten any mastage. He has had a
Speaker 3: massage in three years. Give the guy a break.
Speaker 4: There were some funny tweets about Browns fans trying to
Speaker 4: connect Watson too all the Diddy stuff and saying he
Speaker 4: was at the parties to trying to get.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, please please, Feds figure out a way to
Speaker 2: connect this to Ditty so we can get rid of him. Yeah. Oh, gallows,
Speaker 2: Gallows humor, everybody, I'm with you. I'm gonna take the Browns.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the Browns and the Raiders as well.
Speaker 2: I think that of all again, I mean there's a
Speaker 2: lot I could say, but that, more than anything, I
Speaker 2: think would be the one I wouldn't runny part of it.
Speaker 4: Will Saints Falcons. No, you know what, I'm not cutting
Speaker 4: in line to back the uh back anyone in this
Speaker 4: Titans Dolphins Monday Night bonanza. I bet enough Will Levis
Speaker 4: to laugh the lifetime. It's a Tyler Hontley from Miami.
Speaker 1: No, thank you there.
Speaker 2: It is a bonanza the first of two on Monday
Speaker 2: night is not the first? Is that the nightcap? That's
Speaker 2: a first?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Play him like the same time, which pisses me off?
Speaker 2: How quick?
Speaker 3: How like?
Speaker 2: How much longer for the Titans before they say, okay,
Speaker 2: that's enough, Little Levis, we've seen.
Speaker 4: I don't know why it's not now. I don't you
Speaker 4: see what Dalton did for the Panthers. Just put like
Speaker 4: Rudolph was decent for Pittsburgh last year. Why don't just
Speaker 4: go Rudolph.
Speaker 2: Ill advised Billy Levi's todd, what's yours?
Speaker 1: You want?
Speaker 3: For me? It's the Bears and the Rams. I can't
Speaker 3: believe now. Granted, the Bears defense is supposedly this, Oh
Speaker 3: we're so good according to the statistics. You know, the
Speaker 3: Bears or great guard. You're giving three points. You have
Speaker 3: a very very big mismatchup. Coach. I believe Sean McVeigh.
Speaker 3: I'll take him over the other coach. And you're telling
Speaker 3: me the Bears a team that can't even block for
Speaker 3: their number one pick, who can't even throw when he's
Speaker 3: running around like a lunatic, and he's laying three points
Speaker 3: to the Rams with Stafford. But of course I don't
Speaker 3: want Stafford either, because everybody's injured on their team, so
Speaker 3: you know I don't want any part of that one.
Speaker 2: That was the line. I was the furthest off of
Speaker 2: the farthest off on lines. I actually thought the Rams
Speaker 2: would be favored by a tick. And even if I
Speaker 2: was wrong about that, how the Bears are full three
Speaker 2: point favorites. I will not understand despite all the RAM
Speaker 2: because the Bears are like, what are we doing with it?
Speaker 2: But I agree with you about the coaching right, the
Speaker 2: coaching alone should not be a three point spread. In
Speaker 2: terms of the Bears. I think, boys, we've done all
Speaker 2: we can do, because apparently I can't figure out how
Speaker 2: to charge my computer without creating having apologize for that. Drew,
Speaker 2: thank you for the seismology update. If something does happen
Speaker 2: in southern California, this will live an infamy. This. Yeah,
Speaker 2: don't Drew.
Speaker 3: With me, you know, giving you the business there. It's
Speaker 3: all done in total jealousy. I am in complete jealousy.
Speaker 3: More situation. Just so you know, situation.
Speaker 2: I think you means your life, your situation.
Speaker 4: Yes, very jealous in these groups chats with Wish, Nev and.
Speaker 1: All of us, that's what.
Speaker 2: It's a complete joy a complete joy Drew, Drew has enough.
Speaker 3: Both of you guys can be ejected. I'll eject both
Speaker 3: of you right now. You want to go, you're having
Speaker 3: to hear.
Speaker 2: Drew has enough group chats in his life. Believe me,
Speaker 2: different things as well. All right, boys, Thank you Drew
Speaker 2: Dinsik again, Whale Underscore Capper, Deep Dive podcast with Jay Croucher,
Speaker 2: Excuse Me with Andy Molitor and NBC Sports Bet the
Speaker 2: Edge with Jay Croucher. How often do you do deep dive?
Speaker 2: How often do you do Bet the Edge? For everybody?
Speaker 1: Oh, deep Dive is twice a week Mondays and Wednesdays.
Speaker 1: And Bet the Edge we do daily so you can
Speaker 1: check it out and it should be it's updated so
Speaker 1: that Monday Wednesday, Monday, Monday through Friday. It should be
Speaker 1: the first thing that hits your feed as you get
Speaker 1: up and you start thinking about football betting.
Speaker 4: No more Sunday deep dives than you. Guys used to
Speaker 4: do it Sunday night.
Speaker 1: We used to do it Sunday night. But it's that
Speaker 1: we're not actually betting any of the openers just because
Speaker 1: it's not financially so, so waiting until Monday when we
Speaker 1: get a little bit better limits is kind of the
Speaker 1: new strategy this year.
Speaker 2: And are you still doing halftimes of prime time time?
Speaker 1: For the prime times? We'll be going live for uh
Speaker 1: Cowboys Giants tonight and we'll be deciding between back in
Speaker 1: the Cowboys second half or second half over probably we'll see.
Speaker 2: It's a great thing. Me and wish never we're going
Speaker 2: to do it. But Todd's too busy, he's you know.
Speaker 3: It's not that I told you what it is. You
Speaker 3: don't have to be such a jerk about it. Oh
Speaker 3: my god, this is unbelievable, unbelievable.
Speaker 2: It's your podcast, Todd. I apologize. All right, thank you
Speaker 2: for listening. We need to turn it around. I'm trying
Speaker 2: good luck with a tonight.
Speaker 3: Wait wait, wait, you can't. You can't give me a
Speaker 3: little uh at t wishnev on Twitter And and by
Speaker 3: the way, if guys want to be in my oh
Speaker 3: you did, okay? Anyways, if you want to be in
Speaker 3: my what end game? Because my college f Paul has
Speaker 3: been doing pretty good, My pros is not not that
Speaker 3: bad either, but uh, you can always send me a message.
Speaker 3: I can't get everybody in that fast because it takes
Speaker 3: time to type in everybody's information, but I'll add him
Speaker 3: as as they come when I get time to sit down.
Speaker 3: But you know, some people seem to.
Speaker 2: Like it all right, and Will Hill he has the
Speaker 2: uh I wish I had wagered an additional amount of
Speaker 2: money on this sporting event, and now I have deep
Speaker 2: regrets about not having done so podcasts, which I told him.
Speaker 2: I said, that's a stupid title. Just call it shit
Speaker 2: a bit more. And he was like, Okay, how often
Speaker 2: do you do that, Drew? Uh Will? How often?
Speaker 4: Three times a week? You know, as an avid listener?
Speaker 4: Three times a week Monday Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Friday Wednesday? Right, okay, thanks for listening. Good luck with
Speaker 2: all your beads. Week bore and then Ashen Football