1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: This is the Bloomberg Daybreak euro podcast. Good morning, It's Friday, 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: the twenty fourth of July. I'm Stephen Carroll in London. 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: Coming up today, tariffs are back. Trumpets more than eighty 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 2: countries with new levies of at least ten percent. Magnificent 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: seven stocks lose almost eight hundred billion dollars in a 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: single day as AI skeptics dump big tech shares. Plus 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: one of the trickiest balancing acts in banking, Barkley's trading 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: boss hunts for growth in the shadow of US rivals. 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 3: Let's start with a round up of our top stories. 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: The United States has announced new tariffs of at least 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 2: ten percent on imports from most major trading partners. It's 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: President Donald Trump's biggest move yet to rebuild his global 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: levies after the Supreme Court struck down his earlier charges. 15 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: The new tariffs follow a US investigation that accused more 16 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: than eighty countries of failing to prevent God's made with 17 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: forced labor from entering their supply chains. Who's the US 18 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: trade representative Jemison Greer speaking to CNN. 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 4: Finally, we have put our foot down and we have 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 4: told the countries you need to take action. You need 21 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 4: to prohibit the import of goods made with forced labor, 22 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 4: and you need to enforce these laws so we all 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 4: have a level playing field. And so we're taking action 24 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 4: to do that. And if countries are on the right path, 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 4: they have a certain level of tariff about ten percent, 26 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 4: and so not on the right path, it's a slightly 27 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 4: higher tariff of twelve and a half percent. 28 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: Jefferson Career speaking there to CNN. The neat tariff's take 29 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: effects today as the Trump administration replaces its temporary worldwide 30 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: import duties with the new system based on countries records 31 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: on forced labor. Those judged have stronger safeguards, including the UK, 32 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: the European Union, Canada, and India will face the lower 33 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: ten percent rate, well dozens of others will pay twelve 34 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: and a half percent. In the United States, the Max 35 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: seven technology giants sufferre their biggest one day drop since 36 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: April of last year, wiping out almost eight hundred billion 37 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: dollars in market value earnings from Alphabet and Tesla's boot traders, 38 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: and made a growing concern over big tech's massive spending 39 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 2: and artificial intelligence. However, Intel emerged as a beneficiary of 40 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: the boom and AI data center is delivering a revenue 41 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: forecast that shattered estimates. The chip maker now expects sales 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: of between fifteen point eight to sixteen point eight billion 43 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: dollars in the third quarter. 44 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 3: Here's Bimberg TeX's Ed Ludlow. 45 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 5: The market is a situation where CPU specifically is taking 46 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 5: off the Intel. A lot of their top line performance 47 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 5: is answered by that. And in the quarter gone, you know, 48 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 5: that unit's growing fifty nine percent, double what the rest 49 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 5: of the business is growing at. So they have found 50 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 5: their place in that market. But what they're battling to 51 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 5: do is improve their own operations, their own foundries, and 52 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 5: their own processes so they can get the CPU product 53 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 5: that people actually want out. 54 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 3: There into the real world, remembers Ed Ludlow. 55 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: They're echoing the comments of Intel CEO Lip Bhutan, who 56 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: said that demand is outpacing supply. President Trump has threatens 57 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: to intensify attacks on Iran following a thirteenth consecutive night 58 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: of US strikes. He teld Axios he's close to making 59 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: a decision on what he described as a massive attack. 60 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 2: In a social media post to the US President said 61 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: he would hold around responsible for any further attacks by 62 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: Huthy militants on ships in the Red Sea game as 63 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: Brent crudrose above one hundred dollars a barrel on Thursday 64 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: for the first time in almost two months, Bloomberg's at 65 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: Stewart Livingston Wallace explains why so. 66 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I think a couple of things. 67 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 6: Number one is, there have been multiple reports of more 68 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 6: US forces coming into the region, or at least coming 69 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 6: into areas that look like they might potentially support the region. 70 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 6: And of course that interview that Trump gave yesterday saying 71 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 6: that you know he was at least considering plans for 72 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 6: a major escalation, you know, there seems to be at 73 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 6: least some concern around that. But I think more importantly 74 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 6: what happened in the Red Sea yesterday with attacks on 75 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 6: at least one Saturdi tank and potentially too, that in 76 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 6: itself is making the Old Market I think very nervous 77 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 6: about supplies coming in and. 78 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: Out of the region. 79 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: That was Boomberg's at Seward Livingston Wallace. Trumpada that any 80 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: damage to shipping and cargo would be paid for by 81 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: frozen Iranian funds. European Central Bank officials are preparing to 82 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: raise borrowing costs in September. Bloomberg understands officials see the 83 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: fallout from the Middle East conflict driving up prices and 84 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: forcing a hike. Central Bank's President Christian Laguard says the 85 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: topic came up in this week's right decision. 86 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: There were some governors who asked themselves whether we should 87 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: not consider a hike, in other words, raising the three 88 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: interest rates on the occasion of that meeting. And we 89 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: had really a good thorough look at the data at 90 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: the current development, and we all unanimously decided that we 91 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: were positioned adequately. 92 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: To wait. 93 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: Thecs Christian Laguard, speaking after this bank held rates yesterday, 94 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: she also hinted that she may leave her job early, 95 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: saying she was committed to staying at the bank for 96 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: the rest of this year. The UK's new Prime Minister, 97 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: Andy Burnham, is opening a new branch of Number ten 98 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,119 Speaker 2: Downing Street in Manchester. The so called Number ten North 99 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: office is intended to symbolize the new leader's commitment to 100 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: drive in growth outside of London. JP Morgan Asset Management's 101 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: International fixed income CIO Ian Steely, says Burnham's first week 102 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: hasn't rattles the bond market. 103 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 7: Now, what we've heard over the last few days is 104 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 7: of very small, incremental policies that will probably use a 105 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 7: friendly but ultimately won't make a big, a big dent 106 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 7: in that. I think it's going to be more interesting 107 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 7: over the next. 108 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: Few weeks or so. 109 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 7: What do we do on defense, What do we do 110 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 7: on tax? What are the policies going to be there? 111 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 7: I actually think guilt look attractive, but there is going 112 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 7: to be political volatility, I think until we get a 113 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 7: greater sense of exactly what the new government want to do. 114 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: I see in Steely, adding that the market is already 115 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: expecting some amount of badness. News opposition parties of cold 116 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: Urnham's devolution push a gimmick, but recent polls are showing 117 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: the new leader improving the Labor Party's popularity. And when 118 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: the Trump administration shut down, USAID officials rejected warnings that 119 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: ending the agency's work would put lives at risk. Now 120 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: Bloomberg investigation is linked an unfinished US funded irrigation project 121 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: in Kenya to the worst flooding one village has experienced 122 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: at least a decade. Using interviews, satellite imagery, and government records. 123 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: Bloomberg found the abandoned project altered the flow of water, 124 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: destroying crops and fueling outbreaks of disease. Bloomberg's Simon Marx 125 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: worked on the investigation. 126 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 8: By pulling out overnight, they were really leaving a project 127 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 8: halfway through. So they had conducted a bunch of work 128 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 8: to this project, but they had also destroyed a lot 129 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 8: of the infrastructure in the area in the hope of 130 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 8: renovating it and bringing it back to life later. And 131 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 8: that in this case really brought about huge appheaval to 132 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 8: the local community because it changed what water was doing 133 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 8: within the irrigation scheme. 134 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: Bloomers Simon Marx there internal emails from former East Africa 135 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: USAID Director Amanda robertson warrant unfinished irrigation systems could flood villages. 136 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: Speaking to Bloomberg, she says that staff ordered to abandon 137 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: unfinished projects almost immediately after the Trump administration took office. 138 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 9: A week into the administration is when the stock work 139 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 9: order went into place, which was a shock for all 140 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 9: of us, and that meant that we really could not 141 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 9: do anything else, which really meant, you know, in the 142 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 9: most blunt of terms, shovels down, drop what you're doing, 143 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 9: walk away, and it doesn't really matter what condition it's in. 144 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 9: And then about a month later, a little over a 145 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 9: month later, our projects received cancelation notices. 146 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: Former East Africa USAID Director Amanda Robertson speaking there. The 147 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: US State Department did not answer detailed questions from Bloomberg 148 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: about the Kenya project, but says US Foreign Assistance is 149 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: now more agile, quicker to respond, and more accountable to taxpayers. 150 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: It says its global water strategies being revised to align 151 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: with the administration's America First priorities, while decisions on water 152 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: and sanitation programs for twenty twenty six. 153 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: Remain under review. 154 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: You can hear more from Bloomberg's investigation on the latest 155 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: episode of The Next Africa podcast, available now wherever you 156 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: get your podcasts. And those are our top stories on 157 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 2: the markets this morning, the mscis Specific Index two point 158 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: three percent, lower tech shares again weighing on markets in Asia, 159 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: the cospy and sold down by. 160 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 3: Four point seven percent. 161 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: Your stocks fifty futures are actually pointing two tenths of 162 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: one percent. Horribly watching the reaction to shares in SAP 163 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: after they reported cloud revenue growing at a faster pace 164 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: than unlyst that expected. Oil prices still over one hundred 165 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: dollars a borrow for Brent crude, although down by four 166 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 2: tenths of one percent on the day today. Well, in 167 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: a moment, we'll bring you more on that latest US 168 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 2: tariff announcement, plus tell you about the Barkley's executive as 169 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 2: one of the trickiest jobs in the industry. But another 170 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 2: story that caught her Rye this morning, especially as I'm 171 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 2: in the studio without Caroline today, about solo dining, or 172 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 2: rather the economy of doing things by yourself Bloomberg opinions. 173 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: Howard Hyuan has been writing about this, and he points 174 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: to the little figures from Open Table, the restaurant booking 175 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: websites that solo dining in American restaurants has written by 176 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 2: twenty three percent between last year and this year. 177 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: Now. 178 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: Howard is a pro at solo dining. He's written about 179 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: on several occasions, although I have to say I've actually 180 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: met Howard with groups of friends laughing uproariously in various 181 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: London restaurants over the years. He points to a demographic 182 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 2: rise of single person families in many parts of the 183 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: world and how the economy in places like. 184 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 3: Japan is adapting. He's dubbing this me economics. 185 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: He says that Japanese businesses have re engineered to accommodate 186 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: and develop this market in dining, in spas, and even 187 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: in karaoke, and while the rest of the world catches up. 188 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: He's got a couple of tips, including if restaurant dishes 189 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 2: are made to share, just bring a upper with you 190 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: take it home. 191 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 3: Why not. 192 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: It's a great read, as always from Howard yu One. 193 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: We'll put a linked in our podcast show Notes. Let's 194 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: bring you more though on the latest tariff announcement from 195 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: President Trump. He's using a provision over alleged failures to 196 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: prevent forced labor to impose levies of up to twelve 197 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: and a half percent, part of his efforts to rebuild 198 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 2: the tariffs struck down by the Supreme Court. Our chief 199 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: phaser correspondent Rosalind Mathieson joins us now for more. Ros 200 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: what is the basis end for these new tariffs and 201 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: how different are they from the so called reciprocal tariffs 202 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: that were struck down before. 203 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 10: Well, the difference is the effort to make this a 204 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 10: much more durable framework for the US, so previously relying 205 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 10: quite a lot on executive orders and emergency powers and 206 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 10: now relying on the tried and true investigations done under 207 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 10: that nineteen seventies Trade Act, this one around allegations of 208 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 10: use of forced labor, but there are other investigations underway, 209 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 10: including around excess capacity and therefore embidding it much more 210 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 10: in that process and making it more durable and sticky 211 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 10: as a result. I mean, there's a lot of headache 212 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 10: obviously in this either way for companies and importers and 213 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 10: potentially an impact on American consumers. It's a very complex 214 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 10: new framework which includes a lot of exemptions around things 215 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 10: like food or fertilizer or fuel. Obviously, if you're under 216 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 10: a sectoral tariff already, it may not impact to you, 217 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 10: including for autos for example. And it's got a knit 218 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 10: in with those existing bilateral trade agreements that have been 219 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 10: struck or those that are in negotiations. 220 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of. 221 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 10: Complexities there, and the question is, you know, durability is 222 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 10: one thing, but also impact is another. At a time 223 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 10: that the American consumer is under pressure globally, of course, 224 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 10: there are those questions around prices from the war in 225 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 10: the Middle East, which has really impacted supply and prices 226 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 10: of things like energy, commodities and food and so on, 227 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 10: And so does this have an economic impact down the 228 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 10: lane line? Obviously, Donald Trump has got a very keen 229 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 10: eye on the midterm elections and is very interested in 230 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 10: trying to bring prices down. This may have the opposite 231 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 10: effect in a way, but any impact would probably be 232 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 10: felt mostly after the midterm elections. 233 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, any point to the complexity because, as you say, 234 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: many of these tarists are applying to places like the 235 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 2: European Union that have a trade deal with the US already. 236 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: What sort of reaction have we heard from the countries 237 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: being affected by these new tariffs. 238 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 10: I've mostly heard from the Asian country so far. And 239 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 10: obviously there's the predictable comments around calling them things like 240 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 10: baseless and unjustified. Certainly a denial from allies of the 241 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 10: US that there is any force labor in their supply chain, 242 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 10: saying that there's no evidence of that or they have 243 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 10: taken steps over the years to weed that out. So 244 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 10: objections coming thick and fast, no sign though of intent 245 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,599 Speaker 10: to retaliate, and where trade experts aren't really expecting to 246 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 10: see a lot of retaliation. These moves were expected in 247 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 10: a way. The overall impact is less clear again because 248 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 10: of all those exemptions and the rules around existing bilateral 249 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 10: trade deals. But more fundamentally, in the long term, it 250 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 10: does again chip away at those relationships between these countries 251 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 10: and blocks like the EU and the US and seeing 252 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 10: these places look to diversify their trade. 253 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 3: Relationships in the long term. 254 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 10: So most trade expects don't expect retaliation, but they do 255 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 10: expect this to be one of those factors that leads 256 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 10: to a long term shift away from the US when 257 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 10: it comes to trade. 258 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, and it just adds to the complexity of 259 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 2: the changing relationships under the Trump administration as well. Ras 260 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: thank you very much for joining us. Our chief Asia 261 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: correspondent Rosalind Matheson stay with us. More from Bloomberg Daybreak 262 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 2: Europe coming up after this. 263 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 11: Now. 264 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: Barkley's head of Markets is steering the division through one 265 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: of the trickiest balancing acts in banking. Deal can is 266 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: trying to deliver growth within the confines of the capital 267 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 2: limits imposed by the lenders and of course, in the 268 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: shadow of the performance of Wall Street banks as well. 269 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 3: Our finance reporter Willshaw joins us now from More. 270 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 2: Will firstly tell us a bit more about a Deal 271 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 2: Canon and why he's such a key figure at Barclays. 272 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 11: Well, he runs the global markets business at Barkleys, which 273 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 11: is really the biggest trading business after the five big 274 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 11: US Wall Street giants, and it's essentially the UK's investment bank. 275 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 11: When the firm's Q two earnings come in on Tuesday, 276 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 11: his traders are expected to bring in about two point 277 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 11: five billion pounds, so not massive amounts compared to Wall Street, 278 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 11: but obviously by UK standards a lot of money involved, 279 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 11: and his fans inside and outside Barkleys hope that he 280 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 11: may one day become the CEO whenever the current head, 281 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 11: known as Venka, decides to step down. 282 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: So you didn't get to speak to him for this piece. 283 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 3: He doesn't do media interviews. 284 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: But what did you learn about a deal Can on 285 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: a personal level within the bank and what people think 286 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: of him, Well, he's charming. 287 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 11: He's obsessed with detail, he valued his personal loyalty, and 288 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 11: I think it's fair to say he can sometimes be 289 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 11: slightly scary. Every few months he holds very rigorous business 290 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 11: reviews with his top traders and salespeople. These are quite 291 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 11: notorious inside the bank. He cross examines them in a 292 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 11: way that speaks both to his dedication to high standards 293 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 11: and his tendency I think to be quite a formidable presence, 294 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 11: and Venkat, his boss, has essentially leaned into him and 295 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 11: tasks him with achieving change fast in what is sometimes 296 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 11: quite a slow moving bank. 297 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: So talk to us then about adel Khan's background, how 298 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: did he rise to the position that he's in now. 299 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 11: And when he was born in Pakistan. He joined Barkie's 300 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 11: in two thousand and eight, at around the time that 301 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 11: the bank was buying the American business of Lehman Brothers. 302 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 11: His star rose a couple of years later in the 303 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 11: Eurozone debt crisis, where he was making the bank one 304 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 11: hundred million on some years via credit default swaps. He 305 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 11: would socialize intensely after work. He'd sometimes hosts colleagues his 306 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 11: mother in law's apartment in Monaco to watch the Grand Prix. 307 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 11: It is a very highly personalized style that all helps 308 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 11: to cement loyalty, which I think is key to his approach. 309 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 11: By twenty twelve, he was head of European Credit. Two 310 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 11: years later he was head of Global credit, and by 311 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 11: twenty twenty four he was sole head of Global markets. 312 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: So what does he want to do next and one 313 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: of the biggest challenges facing him within Barclays. 314 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 11: What people close to him say is extremely ambitious and 315 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 11: likely has got further still to rise. The issue for 316 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 11: him really is that the bank has imposed these cattle 317 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 11: limits on the investment bank, which means that it's harder 318 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 11: for the market's business to grow, and instead Barkley's prioritizing 319 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 11: growth in areas like retail banking and wealth. He has 320 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 11: been in talks to potentially get into new asset classes 321 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 11: and jurisdictions, but he hasn't made any major moves at 322 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 11: this stage. 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