1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,119 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian, the right to repair is coming up again, 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: and this is bigger than you know. Who's gonna fix it? 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: You go to town. But baby, if you father, thank 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: you for round on my big grain tractor. The car Doctor. 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: When the tractor breaks down in the middle of the 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: two acre farmers field and they can't get a repair 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: technician out there to fix it, the crop goes bid. 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: Think about that, the crop goes bid. Welcome to the 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron and Anian, the Car Doctor, since 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: this is where car owners the world overturned to for 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: you a busy signal, pick up the phone and call 13 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,959 Speaker 1: in the garage to orders are open, but I am 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five five six 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: and now he running. Hey, it's time to start your engines. 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: A long welcome and the Car Doctor at your service 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: at eight five five zero nine zero zero, here to 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: take your calls and answer your questions. 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And and I guess taking 29 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: us with you everywhere you want to go is has 30 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: become a lot easier. I picked up and I hope 31 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: the Earth doesn't fall off its access here. But I 32 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: actually got rid of a vehicle today, and I know 33 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: that like I never I never get rid of anything. 34 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: But I traded in the two thousand eight Chevy Silverado 35 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: one ton plow truck for Silverado. I wanted to go down, 36 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, my kidneys retired of taking the beating from 37 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: the one ton ride. I went to a three quarter 38 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: ton ride. And it's it's like night and day difference. 39 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: I I can't tell you in terms of technology, in 40 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: terms of the ride, in terms of you know, ten 41 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: years of snowplow and the truck's gotten a looser and 42 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: it's still in great shape. It's still a great truck. 43 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: It's just you know, I just I saw the twenty 44 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: nineteen and I really fell in love with it. White, 45 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: a white w T four by four. But the point 46 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: of this open is um and thanks to the guys 47 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: over at paramis Chevy here in Paramus, New Jersey, UM, 48 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: Andy and and Rob in finance and all the guys 49 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: in service in the service department there that I was 50 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: talking to this morning. UM, I'm looking forward to this relationship. 51 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: And the the technology to play something with you wherever 52 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: you want to go is staggering. It's amazing. And this 53 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: is a base truck. This is a w T. I 54 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: didn't get anything too fancy because it's a It's a 55 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: plow vehicle to me. So I'm just warning you if 56 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: if something happens during the show today. I haven't quite 57 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: figured it out, but my cell phone, because my roy 58 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: it is connected to the truck which is parked outside 59 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: of the studio here, and the truck is off, but 60 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if the phone is yet. Uh So, 61 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, before I went on are all of a sudden, 62 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: I was playing a little Elvis through my Amazon Music 63 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: account because I was playing that in the truck driving 64 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: over here today and the phone started working again. So 65 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna have to get my broadcast engineer, 66 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: Tom Rady to look at it after the show to 67 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: tell me what I'm doing right or wrong, because it's uh, 68 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: it's it's amazing what's in even a base vehicle in 69 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: terms of technology and the capability that that is there. Yes, Tom, 70 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is Tony and I will be 71 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: standing here for the next two hours after the show 72 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: because I go through stuff with you and try to 73 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: get you you know, understand Tom, It's it's really it's 74 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: really neat what you can do. Um. You know it 75 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: has my it has the my Chevrolet app on it, 76 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: and so you know, I sink the phone to the car. 77 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: You're acting like a five year old kid on Christmas. Plan. 78 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: I am like a five year old it on Christmas. Okay, 79 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: we have a radio show. We are going to do radio. 80 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about the giants? Well, I 81 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: just you started, you started. Okay, this is a family rate, 82 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: this is a radio show. So I'm gonna turn off 83 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: my microphone and the g is not for giants. So 84 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: you can take this technology and got rid of him. Folks. 85 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: You can take this technology and it's really kind of neat. 86 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: You can display what's on your phone right into the vehicle. 87 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: So you now have if you go to your phone, 88 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: you tap Google and you say navigate to and you 89 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: give it an address, you can now click navigate too, 90 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: and it displays that on the phone on on the 91 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: vehicle display. And you're not buying extra subscriptions. You're actually 92 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: using either well you're either using your your your data 93 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: from your phone, your buying I take that back, you're 94 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: buying data from the vehicle. But it was reasonable. Is 95 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: an unlimited streaming data package from GM for this truck. 96 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: I mean for twenty bucks. You know what it's hilt 97 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: in all the time. There's no updates, there's no navigation 98 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,119 Speaker 1: screens to update, there's no serious x M fees, there's 99 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: no it's all right there. It's incredible, I mean really 100 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: really incredible. And it's, um, you know, Tony's kidding with 101 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: me because we're both talking about how we gotta stay 102 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: on the cutting edge, because we are the cutting edge 103 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: where the car doctor and we've got to know what's 104 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 1: going on out there, new or otherwise. So um, anyway, 105 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: that's that's my Chevrolet story for today. As we kick 106 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: off this hour of the car doctor, let's get over 107 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: and talk to Terry in Maryland. Ninety one Bronco not 108 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: holding fuel pressure. Terry, what's going on? How can I help? Hey? 109 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: Just give me a call. I have a ninety one 110 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: Bronco five eight. It's initial startup on the when you're 111 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: priming the fuel pomps and run the fuel pressure gage 112 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: on it. It's only going on the thirty and then 113 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: after that when you turned the vehicle off or even 114 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: just um, take the power off the ignition. In about 115 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: five minutes, it'll it's drawn down right, It's just it 116 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: just bleeds down, drops like a stone. Yes, So I'm 117 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: just wondering, is that something It is a more than 118 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: likely A thirty p s I good at a running uh, 119 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: because I was seeing something else where it should be 120 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: around forty sounds thirty sounds low on a key key off? Well, 121 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: are you saying engine running or engine off? I'm getting 122 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: the same whether with just key on or engine running, 123 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: and we're going to get in thirty. So I think 124 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: that's kind of low. Yeah, which which engine is this 125 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: Terry five eight? So there's a five eight? Um? Yeah, 126 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: I mean that sounds low in terms of fuel pressure. 127 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it? If you turn the key, does it? 128 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: Does it? You know, it takes a couple of times 129 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: to crank over and start. You almost have to prime 130 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: it twice. If you prime it, let it go through 131 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: its cycle, turn the key off, and then let it 132 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: prime again. Then it'll start to turn over. But it's 133 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: still slow start. So if if you if you turn 134 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: the key on, let the fuel pump buzz, shut it off, 135 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: let the and then you know, do it again and 136 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: shut it off. You know, not not let it run, 137 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: but just let it as you say, cycle does the 138 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: does the um? Uh? Does it start better? It's still, 139 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: in my opinion, is slow to start still even with that, 140 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: but it doesn't take as long. If you only do 141 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: it one time, let it go through its cycle, and 142 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: then try to crank it. You're cranking it for over 143 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: five seconds. And even this all the vehicle with the 144 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: fuel engine, I just the engines be. I've rebuilt the 145 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: engine on it and things like that. I bought it 146 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: and I'm redoing everything. And this is what I'm finding. 147 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: And when it's idling, when it does start run fine. 148 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: But once it kicks down past that cold initials start up, 149 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: it'll start to surge, you'll you'll see the tag it'll go, 150 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: it'll it'll fluctuate about two hundred or more RPMs and 151 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: you can you can hear it. See it sounds. It 152 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: sounds to me like low fuel pressure. You know, spec 153 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: on that key on engine off spec if you just 154 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: turn the key on, don't don't start the engine. Key on, 155 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: engine off is thirty five to four five p s 156 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: I all day long. So if I'm low, I'm thirty. Um, 157 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: So if you go to start it, if you go 158 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: to start it now, the pressure regulator is involved, right, 159 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: not taking that off and it goes up to forty 160 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: when I take the pressure regulator off with the engine ning, 161 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: with the engine running. Yeah, but that's not a valid 162 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: spec because the spec is thirty five off thirty forty on. 163 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: So they're you know, they're testing it with the with 164 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: the pressure regulator hooked up. So so let's let's do 165 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: a couple of things, all right, Um. First of all, 166 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: the question becomes if it is losing pressure, and it 167 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: sounds like it is because it's low to begin with, 168 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: does your fuel pressure gauge have a dump port, have 169 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: a pressure relief port? Okay, so go down to the 170 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: corner story, get a bottle of Snaple because the Snapple 171 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: bottles are about the right size. Um, pick a good 172 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: flavor and if you get done drinking the snapple with 173 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: the engine, run hit the dump valve and it should 174 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: fill that Snapple bottle within twenty five seconds. That's your 175 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: that's your volume test. Plus you get a Snaple out 176 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: of the deal. So it's good all right. Uh, that's 177 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: why it works for me. And you know, if it 178 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: passes that, we know volume is good. But then we're 179 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: still suspect about pressure. The other nice thing is you 180 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: can now also, and it's an older vehicle, you can 181 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: now also take a fuel sample. You're looking right at 182 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: the fuel. Is it dirty as a green as it is? 183 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: It cloudy? Doesn't look contaminated. You know what's going on 184 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: inside the fuel system because it's now eleven it's almost 185 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: thirty years old, right, Um, So we we we take 186 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: a fuel sample, we take a volume test. Then we've 187 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: still got a pressure issue. If you turn it off 188 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: within five minutes, it drops. That sounds low. So then 189 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: the next the next thing we've got to do is 190 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: somewhere in this vehicle on the return side, there should 191 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: be a section of rubber hose that we could crimp off, 192 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: maybe back by the tank. And if we can do that, 193 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: crimp it off, if it holds pressure, we know the 194 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: problem is that way right, because there's there's there's two well, 195 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: there's three reasons why this system will lose pressure. One 196 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: it's a problem in the pump. Two it's one of 197 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: the injectors staying stuck open and peeing. Is it is 198 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: a technical term. I'll have to say that on family radio. 199 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: It's a technical term, all right. And and three it 200 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: could be the pressure regulator itself. But usually that's not 201 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: a pressure on startup problem. That's usually it runs rough. 202 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: You're telling me it smokes black. It's going through a 203 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: lot of fuel and you don't know where it's going. 204 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: And if you took the vacuum line off and started it, 205 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: you would see fuel peeing. There's that technical word again 206 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: at the nipple um where the vacuum line went. So 207 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: you know, I mean the other the other thing you 208 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: can do here is and it's it's extensive because this 209 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: is a five eighth. This has the intake manifold hanging 210 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: over the one side of the rail. Is you know, 211 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: the all the injectors up out of the motor started, 212 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: shut it off, the CNA of the injectors puddling. You know, 213 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of a tough thing to do. Um 214 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: it gets, it gets a little ugly and involved there. 215 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: Um if it's if it starts okay such that no 216 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: one's cylinder feels like it's it's it's struggling to catch up, 217 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: like it's loaded with fuel. You know, if when it starts, 218 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: it finally starts, it's good, clean, clear, et cetera, then 219 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it sounds more like a pump issue 220 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: than a an injector issue. Leaking that you've got to 221 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: you've got to split the system in half and and 222 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: work it from there. Yeah, that's always wondered. This year 223 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 1: it had a backflow for veneral that pumped back in. 224 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: There are check voel kind of thing. Yeah, they all do. 225 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: They've all got to hold residual pressure. The industry standard, 226 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: you know, the industry spec is it's it's it's it's 227 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: different vehicle to vehicle, the one we believe that seems 228 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: to be the most accurate. Similar between fourteen and eighteen minutes. 229 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: I've had some cars hold residual fuel pressure for up 230 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,599 Speaker 1: to forty five minutes an hour, you know, but you 231 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: know if it's five minutes or less. Nah, and your 232 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: your pressure is low to begin with. So the only 233 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: other thing you could do is possibly considered. Do you 234 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: have a faulty gauge, Take the gauge, took it up 235 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: to another car, get the speck for that one. If 236 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: it matches that, then the gauge is right. Then you 237 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: are really low pressure on your vehicle. Yeah. I tried 238 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: to with both my fuel pressure gauges, and I'm coming 239 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: up with the same. So I try to eliminate all possibilities. Yeah, 240 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: it sounds like we're chasing a pump issue or you know, uh, 241 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: like I said, either residual pressure, pump issue or the injectors. 242 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: All right, if you need more, just feel free, Terry 243 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: reach out and uh, we can talk about it again 244 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: next week. Let me run them up against the clock. Tom. 245 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: Tom's Tom's yelling at me. So that's Tom. All right, 246 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: You take good care and thanks for calling him for Maryland. 247 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. You're very welcome. Zero zero run any 248 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: of the car doctor. We're coming back right after this. Haven. 249 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: What's more fun? Than listening to Ronny in the car 250 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: during getting that car fixed. Right now, back to ron Hey, 251 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: this email just in. This one comes to us from 252 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: Russell and North Carolina. Hey, ron I'm listening to see 253 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: you live down here in North Carolina, and I want 254 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: to know how come you're such a big Ford guy, 255 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: but you bought another Chevy. What's the reasoning behind that? 256 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: Are we missing something? Which vehicles should we be buying? Russ? Russ? 257 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: The deal is this. I like the Fords, the F one, 258 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: et cetera. The problem is lifting them, all right, Uh, 259 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: you know it's it's and you gotta think about who's 260 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: gonna work on it. Okay, the the frame supports the 261 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: way Ford sets it up. They make lifting the F 262 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: two fifty Super Duty the F three fifty Super Duties 263 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: kind of tough. It's not easy. It it takes some 264 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: special lift adapters and it's a lot of work. It's 265 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: not as quick and simple to lift as as a Chevy. 266 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: And that's not the only reason. There were some other 267 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: things that the Chevy had that I really liked that 268 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: maybe want to steer that way, And you know, I 269 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: think it's a matter of personal preference. Both good trucks. 270 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: All right, I'll leave it there Ford or Chevy both 271 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: good trucks. But one of the reasons I went with 272 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: Chevrolet is, uh, you know what, past experience. This is 273 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: my third Silverado in let's see two thousand one. I 274 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: guess it's coming up on thirty years I'm driving Silverado. 275 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: So I've always had a good experience with them, and 276 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: they've always done the job, and then they last a 277 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: good long time. Let's go over and talk to Todd 278 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: new Berne, Newburn, North Carolina. We're coming in strong in 279 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: North Carolina today. Todd, how can I help you today? Brother? 280 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: How you running? Um? Hey, I've got a Englis and 281 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: my wife and I both worked for the government right 282 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: and we're getting ready to transfer over to Japan for 283 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: three or four years tour, and so I'm really looking 284 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: for some advice on long term storage on its vehicle. Yeah, um, well, 285 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: thank you for your service. I can only imagine. Um, 286 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: how's the flood waters down there by the way. You 287 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: guys got hit kind of hard, right, Thankfully we didn't 288 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: have the flood waters and gets kind of receded, but 289 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: there are there's a lot of damage. Yeah, we had 290 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: some pretty good damage to our house. But I still 291 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: feel blessed. We can live in our house, right, you can. 292 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: You got a place to go home to at night. Um, 293 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: is anybody gonna be able to start these or drive 294 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: these time? Or you just want to put them away 295 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: and let him sit for four years? My plan was 296 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: to get a covered storage unit. Um, put it down, 297 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: Jack says, get it off the ground, take the battery out. 298 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: She is nice. I guess the main question we've got. 299 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: I can get fan all free fuel here? Bad? Do 300 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: I take that full full of stable, keep a pull 301 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: and park it? Hope for the best. But I try 302 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: to drain it all the way. I try to drain it. 303 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: I'd try to drain it all the way. I Well, 304 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: let me think, now, four years, that's a long time, brother, Yeah, 305 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: I think four years would be the far point where 306 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: it looks. Probably a little over three. But you know, 307 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: even even so, is it is it gonna be a 308 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: heated space or is it gonna be reactionary to temperature? 309 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: Will be? Yeah, it's not gonna be conditioned. Um, you know, 310 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: and I guess there's no way to get somebody to 311 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: kick it over once a month to at least start 312 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: it run it. You know that type of thing. Probably not, um, 313 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: not easily, not easily. Let me let me ask you 314 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: this question, all right, and just if I'm out a line, 315 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: tell me, but a thirteen wrangler? What makes it so special? 316 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: Why do you want to hang onto this thing three 317 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: or four years? Uh? Tell you what if one of 318 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: the few vehicles I bought new. Um, I ordered it, 319 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: I loved it, and literally just before this job offer 320 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: came like two days before, I put the list of 321 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: tires on it. I've got a winch in a bumper, 322 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: and I said, built it to be mine. Um. Yeah, 323 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: all right, special, I get it, Um, I get it. Um. 324 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: My concern is, you know, and I like the idea 325 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: about lifting it. I think that makes sense. You know. 326 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: My concern is is it's it's all about environment, all right. 327 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: I picked up my seventies seventy two monty Carlo with 328 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: forty two miles on it out of a barn in Texas. 329 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: Key point. There is Texas right, pretty stable temperature. Um. 330 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: It was in the middle of nowhere. UM. I can't 331 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: even think of the name of the town. It was 332 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: three miles northwest of Houston, Houston, Houston whatever. Um, you know, 333 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: and when I got it, I just you know, rolled 334 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: it off the flatbed and put fuel in it and 335 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: drove it into the shop and it worked. It was fine. 336 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: It had been sitting since two thousand four with nothing 337 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: in the tank, so you know that being said, it 338 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,239 Speaker 1: was in a good environment. You know, you're gonna you know, 339 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: it's you guys get temperature. It's gonna be hot, it's 340 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: gonna be cold, it's gonna be damp, it's gonna be dry. 341 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: And you know, I question how long stable or any 342 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: fuel supplement editive is gonna have for you know, a 343 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: chemical shelf life. I don't think they give longer than 344 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: twelve to fourteen months, or am I wrong? I don't 345 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: know that they give a four year that's forty eight months. 346 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: That's an awful long time. Uh you know that just 347 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: it's it just it just makes you wonder, um fill 348 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: it and then just kind of playing on dres before 349 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: I started, well you could do that, and then the 350 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: question becomes what will that fuel do because it would 351 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: have to be you know, like you said, ethanol free. 352 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: What will that do to the rubber components? You know, 353 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: four years is a long time shelf life on fuel 354 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: shelf life on fuel, they tell me, now for a 355 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: vehicle is really you know, they talk about anywhere from 356 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: sixty to ninety days and they say gasoline loses its pop. 357 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: Now it just it just doesn't have that ability. When 358 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: the family car needs some fixing, there's only two things 359 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: that really matter, getting the right part and getting some 360 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: good advice. It's a pretty safe bet that, with over 361 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: a million parts in stock, pet Boys has the right 362 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: part right now. The pet Boys Pros are extensively trained 363 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: to find the right part for just about any car truck. 364 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: Better yet, these pros can also handle the entire installation 365 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: or service needed. It's always good to have options and no, 366 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: the pet Boys pros have it covered either way. Hey, 367 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: welcome back, Ronan, any of the car doctor. We're here 368 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: with you there. Hey, yes, sir, we we we we 369 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: call that a technical O. So but um, Todd, my apologies. 370 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention and so we're gonna blame the 371 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: board operated this one time. Okay, Yeah, Tony actually made 372 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: a mistake, which really doesn't happen a lot um, but 373 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: yeah it happens once in a while. Listen, it's live radio. 374 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: People want to know that. Cheez it a life shop. No, 375 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: not at all. We doctor everything, no pun intended. Um. 376 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: I had Tom because Tom has access to a computer. 377 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: I had Tom google Stable while we were in the 378 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: midst of that plause. And if you if you read 379 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: stables um uh literature, it says it keeps fuel fresh 380 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: for up to twenty four months. So four years is 381 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: a problem. Right. And then the other thing I was 382 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: thinking about is that to leave the engine in that 383 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: one position for four years, think about what it's gonna 384 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,959 Speaker 1: do to the valve springs. All right, everything's gonna take 385 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: a set. You know, you've got You've got a couple 386 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: of springs under load, some that aren't. So you know, 387 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: how far are we gonna go. We're gonna pull the 388 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: valve covers off, valve cover off whatever engine this is, 389 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: and and back off the springs. You know, four years 390 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: is a long time, brother, whether it's three or four, 391 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: that's just a long time. Eight months, ten months, a year. 392 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: I get it. But the problem is unless it's in 393 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: a perfectly controlled environment, you know, I think it's gonna 394 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: age and surprise you. So that's I haven't had any 395 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: problems and I don't want to come back and right, 396 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 1: you know, so well, rebuild the fuel system, you know, uh, 397 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: get oil pressure working, have dried out pan gas gets 398 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, no family members, friends, relatives, nobody has a 399 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: last ditch moment that you know once a month or 400 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: once every three months, could start this and run it 401 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: and keep its juices flowing. I was thinking about that 402 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: over the break, and I probably I sure record that 403 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: somebody up that the uh the owner of the se 404 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: we know them. You know, even if even if you 405 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: slipped the guy a couple of bucks and said, you know, 406 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: if he charged what would he charge dollars a month 407 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: to watch over it? Kind of like a babysitting service 408 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: could even if it was fifty bucks a month, all right, 409 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: fifty times ten six hundred a year times four years 410 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: bucks for yeah, um, but to come back, what you 411 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: would save in potential hassle of fuel system breakdown and 412 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: and and and pangas get you know, kind of keep 413 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: it wet. You gotta keep its juices flaw when you 414 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: don't want anything to get hard and and um, you know, 415 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: dry it out. That's a problem. And that does make 416 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: sense to have somebody you know, it's a long time. 417 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: It's a long time. It's four years Um, you know 418 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: it took it took twenty that long just to get 419 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: through the tenth grade. I mean it was. Um, it 420 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: might be that long before the Giants have a winning season. Sorry, Tom, Um, 421 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna knock it off. Okay, yes, I'm sorry. You're 422 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: going to focus on cars. Who's giving him a ride 423 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: home after the show today? But that's where i'd go 424 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: with that, Todd, All right, I would I would try 425 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: and get can somebody run this? Drive this, et cetera? 426 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: All right? Um, you know, because I think what you're 427 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: trying to do long term storage, and if you can't 428 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: and if if you've got to leave it, I drained 429 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: the fuel system dry. I would drain the fuel system dry. 430 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: I would leave coolant in it, and I would leave 431 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, transfluent, and obviously I would just get rid 432 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: of the fuel and you know, deal with rebuilding the 433 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: fuel system. Um, if you had to when you got back, 434 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: you know that just that just makes more sense. No 435 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: chance you can take it with you to Japan? Is there? 436 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: They're driving aroung side of the road there. Well, probably 437 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't end up well yeah, well yeah, but you know what, 438 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: you can at least start it and run it over there. 439 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: That's true. I'm hoping I can find a nice old 440 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: Toyota lan Cruiser over there. Get back right. Well, yeah, 441 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: but um, just that's my thoughts. Brother. If you're telling 442 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 1: me a year, that's one thing, but this is this 443 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: is the one. All all right, all right, I'll work 444 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: real hard and get somebody to U hired. Call us 445 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 1: back in four years, let us know how you made out. Alright, alright, 446 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: you take good care. Let's get on over and talk 447 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: to Nick and Oregon. Um, Nick, do you I hope 448 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: you're driving this car every day? I don't know if 449 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: I could take another four year storage question. So how 450 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: are you tonight? Nick? What's going on? I'm good? It 451 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: is my daily driver. I got in it after work 452 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: last week and um, the check in and light came 453 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: on and it was running rough. So I went at 454 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: home and I pulled the code on it and I 455 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: had a oh, piz Ero three oh six and a 456 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: piz Ero one seven one um within misfire and to 457 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: lean on bank one, So I uh, I've changed out 458 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: yeah two censor downstream and I cleared the codes and 459 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: right and immediately came back was the three oh six 460 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: missfire and then I had some pending UM three O 461 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: two multiple missfighters and then you know so, and that's 462 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: why I'm not Now I did I have checked fuel 463 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: pressure and that seems good, and I really don't know 464 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: where to go? What now? What? What kind of SCANTL 465 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: do you have? Does it read data stream? Yeah? Okay, 466 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: so you know the next time this happens when you 467 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: get a lean or rich fuel code. Let's look at 468 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: data stream? Where is it all right? If? If? If that? 469 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: Do you understand data stream? Nick? I think we've talked 470 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: about this, have we have? We? Well, not totally. No. Um, 471 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: we're your boy scout. Do you ever build the camp 472 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: ever build a campfire? Of course? So you know you 473 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: get that fire gone with nice dry wood and it's 474 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: a nice even fire, and it's the right color, and 475 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: it's the right temperature, and you know it's it's it's 476 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: it's it's not too hot and it's not too cold. Right, 477 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: that's a good fire. And you look at it and 478 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: you go, wow, that's a good fire. That's zero percent 479 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: fuel trim. That's fuel trim on the money. That means 480 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: that the computer is seeing the proportional amount of fuel 481 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: being drawn in it or being placed in and an 482 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: exhausted out as deemed necessary by its software. The cake 483 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: mixture is balanced, Okay, the cake won't be too hard, 484 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: the cake won't be too soft. It's gonna come out 485 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: just right, all right. Now, if if, if the fuel 486 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: trim is lean, that signifies what. If it's lean, it's 487 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: it's a it's a disproportionate or an out of proportion mixture. 488 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: It's got too much of something and not enough of 489 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: the other. In this case, it's got it's got too 490 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: much oxygen. So the computer sees that extra oxygen and 491 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: it starts dumping fuel. It says, hey, I'm trying to 492 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 1: get the cake mixture of the fire back to that 493 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: even consistency. So I'm gonna add more fuel to try 494 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: and you know, bring things back to where it's supposed 495 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: to be. And it keeps watching the air fuel or 496 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: the O two sensors on the vehicle. Hey, when's it 497 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: coming back? When's it coming back? Where's that mixture? Right? Right? 498 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: If a vehicle has a misfire, what do you think 499 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: that does to the mixture? Right? But which way? Well? Good? Right? 500 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: Why would it go lean? Do you know? Lack of fuel? Well, 501 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: lack of combustion. Right, there's no admission. There's no admission cycle. Now, 502 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: can an oxygen sensor sense fuel? No? Can an oxygen 503 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: sensor sense oxygen? Yeah? So if if, if, if oxygen 504 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: isn't being consumed in the in in in the cycle, 505 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, all this extra oxygen has gotta 506 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: go where. It's gotta go out the exhaust. It's gotta 507 00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: go somewhere. Okay, so the computer will likely see that 508 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: as increased oxygen content instead of lean code. Makes sense. 509 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: So so what I want you to do now is 510 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: clear the codes. I think bank to two it's it's 511 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: probably two, four and six or in the forward bank. 512 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: This is a V six obviously is if I'm writing 513 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: what I'm thinking in that bank too, or two four 514 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: and six live are are are the forward bank the 515 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: easy one to get to if you're getting pending missfires 516 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: on two and a hard missfire on six? Swap up, yeah, 517 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: swap the coils. Take a magic marker right down on 518 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: the top of the coil too, four six, So you 519 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: don't get confused, all right, you know, put number two 520 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: coil in in in three, put number six coil and 521 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: two put number three and number six something like that, 522 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: and then mix up the plugs and write down what 523 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: you put were clear the code, start the car, what 524 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: comes back? If the same two coils, which are now 525 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: in two different cylinders hopefully still report a failure, then 526 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: I would start thinking coils. Now. The one problem is here, 527 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: you've got you've got two coils and three cylinders to 528 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: pick from unless you want to take the planum off 529 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: the back and sneak and coil in there, which is yeah, 530 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of tough, alright, Well yeah, I mean it 531 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: can't be down. Yeah, yeah, it's not. It's not the hardest, 532 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: but it's it's a lot of it's a lot of 533 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: cuts and braises and and bruises, and I'm I'm getting 534 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: lazy as I get older. Um, just make sure if 535 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: you determine that this is coils, do yourself a favor 536 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: and buy some good quality stuff. Try and stay away 537 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: from the junk online because you know, it's it's it's 538 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: I just see a lot of issues with some of 539 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: these cut rate discount auto parts, especially ignition coils and 540 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: the like. I could get a good Yeah, you get 541 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: out to an O'Reilly oto parts, You'll get a good 542 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: coil and you can ask them, hey, what works? What 543 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: do you have? And plus that you can also look 544 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: it up online at orillyoto dot com. Alright, sir, I 545 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: have one. I have one quick question. I'll tell you 546 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: what hold that question. Let me pull over and take 547 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: the pause and deal with it when I get back. 548 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm run a nating of the car doctor. Don't anybody 549 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: go away? Alrighty, let's rock along, run and ending the 550 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: car doctor here, Nick Oregon go ahead and Nick finish 551 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: up real quick bib Yes, sir, yes, sir. All my 552 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: previous vehicles that I've owned UM have distributors with caps 553 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: and rotors, and if I do it, if I do 554 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: tune up, i'd do UM spark plugs buyers cap rotor 555 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: and I always seem to you know, have really good 556 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: luck with that. Well, these coil packs are is that 557 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: are tho similar? Where like you do spark plugs and 558 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: then change tall the coil packs or wait, how many 559 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: miles around the car? HU all original stuff? Yes? Please, 560 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: so you're probably due for coil packs. You know, everything 561 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: has a finite life. It's now twenty years old. You 562 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: know we would want to change the coil boots. But 563 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: see here's the deal right now. Maybe in your case 564 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: you can actually get to the coils and it's it's 565 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: they're accessible. But on on some of the newer stuff, 566 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: we look at it when it gets to a hundred 567 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: twenty five thousand miles and we're doing plugs. I always 568 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: explained to the customer, Look, it's gonna be X number 569 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: of hours in labor to get the intake planum off 570 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: and actually get to the plugs for an extra at 571 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: that time what amounts to a fifty dollars in coil parts. 572 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: You want to just do the coils now and get 573 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: it over with. For the back three, you want to 574 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: wait on the front three. They're easy to get to. 575 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: I always look at it in terms of labor, in 576 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: terms of you know, accessibility. The other thing to be 577 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: aware of that Lexus Toyota seems to run concurrent in 578 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: common with is one coil goes bad, it tends to 579 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: throw the system out of whack, that it will start 580 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: reporting false errors, misfires and other cylinders. That this isn't 581 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: necessarily true, And I believe it has to do with 582 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: the way the system is wired, all right, And that's 583 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: just something. The way it came out of the factory. 584 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: I don't believe it's as far back as I think 585 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: it's started somewhere around oh three oh four. But end 586 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: we're back to you know, look at the age of 587 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: the system, all right, and it's it's it's twenty years old. 588 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: So the other thing to think about two is if 589 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna drive this car any any any great distance, 590 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: when you if you do take the plenum off to 591 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: do the back coils and plugs, if if you, if 592 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: you have to also remember think about take a look 593 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: at the valve cover gaskets, because if the valve cover 594 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: gaskets receieping and by now they've jeez, it would be 595 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: probably doing the Smithsonian. If it wasn't, it would be 596 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: so rare that this this, this is the moment to 597 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: do the valve cover gaskets too, all right, Um, and 598 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: then and then the last thing to think about is, 599 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: you know you're doing plugs and coils, let's think about 600 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: carbon deposits. A can of Berryman with hest technology, as 601 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: long as you're going over to your local Oriiliyoto parts 602 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't be the worst idea in the world either. Some 603 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: good carbon cleaning is always a good order would you 604 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: recommend that mass air flows sensor cleaning? Not unless you're 605 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: not unless you're having a problem, you know, not unless 606 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: you're having a problem. Um, I mean I would look 607 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: at it. How dirty is it? Uh? You know? Maybe 608 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: I want to take a very tightly wound Q tip 609 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: and gently rubbed the element if I can get to it. 610 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: And how dark is it? Um? You know? But I 611 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: tend to leave my mass airflow sensor cleaning unless it's 612 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: unless you know what am I looking for. I'll put 613 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: it to you this way. If you want to clean 614 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: the mass airflow sensor, do it after you do the plugs. 615 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: Do it after you do the coils, do it after 616 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: you do the valve cover gaskets. Wait a week and 617 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: then do it. Look at fuel trim before, look at 618 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: fuel trim after, and you'll see and judge how well 619 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: or how much of a difference it does or does 620 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: not make the other thing. You The other thing you 621 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: can look at real quick, because I'm up against the clock. 622 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: See if your scan tool has calculated load as a 623 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: pit all right, So take it out on the road 624 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: ten mile fifteen mile flat road, nobody around, kick it. 625 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: Put your foot through the headlight where does calculated load 626 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: go off? Calculated load goes eight cent or better? That 627 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: mass airflow sensor is fine and it's reporting correctly if 628 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: it's less than eighty five. My venture is, yeah, maybe 629 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: you want to clean it because the mass airflow is 630 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: getting sluggish and doesn't respond and report as well as 631 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: it should. All right, that's what I got, kiddo. I 632 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: gotta run. I'm up against the clock. I'm tight. You 633 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: called back, you need more information? Always a pleasure five 634 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: zero the car doctor's cruise back. Don't go away. Hey, 635 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: Ronian is glad to help you out anyway he can. 636 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: Mike and dennellon what can we do for you, sir? 637 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: We got two minutes. Hey, ron I appreciate you taking 638 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: the call um the coil pack wished it was interesting. 639 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: I had a friend with a cruise and uh a 640 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: fifteen cruise with forty eight thousand miles on it that 641 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: they went on it. So yeah, not not uncommon. I mean, 642 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: but there's a you know, there's Alexis with a with 643 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: a buck seventy five on it. So every car is 644 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: a little different. So but but anyway, and what I 645 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: was calling about is is a obliferation at turbos today. 646 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: Are there any things that you might tell people, uh 647 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: to watch out for back like back in the old days, 648 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: we have a lot of problems with them having some 649 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: problems today. Yeah, you know, Mike, I think I think 650 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: the thing to think about what the turbos is. You know, 651 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: you've got to be aware of all the heat that 652 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: they generate. And you know, back in the day years ago, 653 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 1: we always worried about head gas getting mechanical failures in 654 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 1: the engine. And it seems like the engines have gotten 655 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: a lot better, but it's also still true that the 656 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: amount of heat that the turbos generate can really help 657 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: oil to break down and create oil issues. The other 658 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: thing to be mildly aware of is the fact that, 659 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: depending upon how a repair shop does a fuel system cleaning, 660 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 1: that they can actually damage the turbocharger seals or any 661 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 1: of the seals in the turbocharger system if they're not correct, 662 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: and cause issues there later on down the road. Performance 663 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: was there are some very specific procedures for doing carbon 664 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: cleaning on the on the g d I or the 665 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: Guest Lean Direct Injection Engines GO. I was gonna point 666 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: that was there any difference between the g d im 667 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: motor and A and a straight Uh yeah, I mean 668 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: it's it's it's the biggest differences in my mind. You know. Well, 669 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: I think the later model ones with with turbos are 670 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: made better, built better and last longer. But some of 671 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: the maintenance steps are definitely more involved and they take 672 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of TLC. And it's not just took 673 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: up the same machine you hooked up twenty years ago 674 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: and expected to do the same job. If you're using 675 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: fit five or even ten year old technology on these cars, 676 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 1: you can actually do more harm than good and obviously 677 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: that's not where you want it to be so but um, anyway, 678 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate the call MIC as always, and for everyone else, 679 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: I'll run an eating the car doctor, reminding you good 680 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See it.