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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 2: Tuesday edition of the Clay Travison Buck Section Show gets

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Speaker 2: off to a fantastic start right now. We're very excited

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Speaker 2: to have you all with us. A lot of stories

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Speaker 2: to dive into. Those campus protests still insane, insane in

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Speaker 2: the membrane. They are doing crazy stuff on these campus sees.

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Speaker 2: So we will look at what the latest is. We

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Speaker 2: will look at what the GW campus is going to

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Speaker 2: do as a result of the defacing. It is the

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Speaker 2: George Washington University campus where Clay is a distinguished alumni.

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Speaker 1: Why don't they ask you to come speak? By the way,

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Speaker 1: what kind of nonsense is I've never been invited to speak.

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Speaker 3: They've asked me for a lot of money, I will say,

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Speaker 3: to be fair to them, the athletic department has hosted

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Speaker 3: me for a basketball game before, but I've never been

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Speaker 3: in It is kind of funny to think about never

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Speaker 3: been invited to bring you to a basketball game though,

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Speaker 3: So what I'm at sports g I mean, wouldn't you

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Speaker 3: think they would invite me to speak? I mean, how

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Speaker 3: many people of my age that graduated from GW have

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Speaker 3: done more in media?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know why? You know why?

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Speaker 2: That's I was invited to speak at Amherst before I

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Speaker 2: ever did media. When I was in the CIA, they

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Speaker 2: wanted me to call up and give speeches, and they

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Speaker 2: invite me since I started, since I went to work

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Speaker 2: for Glenn at the Blaze.

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Speaker 1: Never again, never since then have they reached out.

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Speaker 3: So you would gwoun want as many successful alums to

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Speaker 3: come to campus, regardless of how they are are successful, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean that seems like a no brainer to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, except if you're a communist, you don't care about

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Speaker 2: success or truth. So GW campus has defaced the GW

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Speaker 2: statue George himself, that's right, Father of the nation.

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Speaker 1: They have defaced that statue.

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Speaker 2: So on the one hand, we continue to talk about

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Speaker 2: the ideology, the toxic ideas of the left and how

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Speaker 2: they're playing on on these campuses. But also there's a

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Speaker 2: part of me that's like they kind of getting what

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Speaker 2: they deserve on some of these campuses in terms of

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Speaker 2: the administrations being in disarray and the whole thing being

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Speaker 2: a mess. We shall discuss plus a meeting with Trump

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Speaker 2: and DeSantis.

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Speaker 1: I think we told you here many times.

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Speaker 2: Even with things we're a little bit a little bit testy,

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Speaker 2: little feisty between the Trump and DeSantis camps of supporters

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Speaker 2: during the primary. Said they're going to they're gonna hug

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Speaker 2: it out, and they're gonna be on the same team

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Speaker 2: for the benefit of the country. And sure enough, Trump

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Speaker 2: himself has said great meeting, ron fully on board MAGA.

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Speaker 2: And we'll break some of that down for you because

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Speaker 2: I and also it's a little bit of we promised

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Speaker 2: you what would happen. Some of you doubted it, but

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Speaker 2: it is in fact what is going on. Statement from

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Speaker 2: ut on how they're handling the protests. I think that's

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Speaker 2: particularly interesting. If we have time, we'll get to this

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Speaker 2: Arizona rancher who was charged in the shooting of a

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Speaker 2: of an illegal on his property, who will not be

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Speaker 2: retry after a jury was deadlocked.

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Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting story.

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Speaker 2: Goes back away as we talked to you about it,

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Speaker 2: I think a couple of years ago, now, maybe a

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Speaker 2: year ago, two years ago. And we've got a lot more,

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Speaker 2: but Clay, let's start with this one. We haven't heard

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Speaker 2: much from Nancy Pelosi these days. You know, Nancy's been

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Speaker 2: a little quiet. I don't know, she's taken some naps

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Speaker 2: to sleep it off. After a third bottle of chardonnay,

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Speaker 2: and Nancy showed up on MSNBC. If there's one thing

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Speaker 2: it would be hard to accuse MSNBC of one would

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Speaker 2: think it's Trump apologies or being apologists on behalf of

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Pelosi was talking to Katie Terr, who apparently

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Speaker 2: still works in media. Pelosi was not happy with this exchange.

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Speaker 2: We want to break it down for you because it

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Speaker 2: goes to where the economy is right now.

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Speaker 1: This is cut six.

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Speaker 4: There are those who have religion andate concerns about immigration, globalization,

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Speaker 4: their family's future. And we have to dress those concerns.

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Speaker 4: And Joe Biden is doing that. Created nine million jobs

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Speaker 4: in his tournament office. Donald Trump as the worst record

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Speaker 5: A global pandemic.

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Speaker 4: He had the worst record of any president. We've had

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Speaker 4: other concerns in our country. If you want to be

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Speaker 4: an apologist for Donald Trump, that may be your role,

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Speaker 4: but it ain't mine.

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Speaker 2: So, first of all, so nasty, and I think it's

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Speaker 2: because she's looking at Katie Turr like you're a propagandist

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Speaker 2: What could be more dishonest than claiming that the pandemic

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Speaker 2: which caused a shutdown that Democrats demanded, shrieking that they

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Speaker 1: Those job losses are on Trump.

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Speaker 3: I think it's illustrative of how many Democrats are. Arguments

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Speaker 3: collapse with one sentence of opposition. And when I saw

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Speaker 3: this clip that went viral of Katie Terror at MSNBC

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Speaker 3: actually just bothering to correct Nancy Pelosi on a transparent falsehood. Frankly,

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Speaker 3: because in February of twenty twenty, right before COVID overtook

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Speaker 3: everybody stop working and everything shut down, we had the

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Speaker 3: lowest unemployment rate, virtually no inflation, lowest mortgage rates, highest

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Speaker 3: employment rate for every different ethnic and racial group that

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Speaker 3: at that time at the absolute apex economically ever in

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Speaker 3: the United States history. And I think that's why, looking

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Speaker 3: back nostalgically, many people remember now the Trump era with fondness,

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Speaker 3: But this was also emblematic to me of what happened

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Speaker 3: to Gavin Newsom. When Gavin Newsom debated Ron DeSantis and

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Speaker 3: got completely and totally filayed in the Sean Hannity primetime special.

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Speaker 3: It was because Hannity didn't really do anything other than

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Speaker 3: present facts. But Gavin Newsom lives in that alternative facts

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Speaker 3: universe of MSNBC and CNN, and he walked right into

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Speaker 3: a buzzsaw and got obliterated because Florida handled COVID better

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Speaker 3: than California did as an objective measure of fact in

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Speaker 3: every respect. And so when that's actually pointed out and

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Speaker 3: when you have to deal with it, Democrats don't react

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Speaker 3: very well. In fact, Nancy Pelosi really kind of lost

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Speaker 3: MSNBC and then called Katie Turror Trump propagandist for pointing out, Hey,

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Speaker 3: you know, COVID was going on, and they've made this

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Speaker 3: argument because Biden came back in, they started to open

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Speaker 3: back up. I think the math is buck, there are

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Speaker 3: most of the job growth in Joe Biden, if you

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Speaker 3: take away the people who just got to go back

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Speaker 3: to the jobs that they already had, is actually in

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Speaker 3: illegal immigrants. The number of new American citizen jobs that

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Speaker 3: have existed during Joe Biden's tenure is not very substantial

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Speaker 3: at all. So they're cooking the books here to make

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Speaker 3: Biden's economic numbers look better than they actually are, and

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Speaker 3: the numbers still aren't that great. Well, to say that

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Speaker 3: the worst job losses.

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Speaker 2: In history occurred under Donald Trump, when the truth is

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Speaker 2: it was a pandemic and that the criticism of Trump

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Speaker 2: from the Democrats, including from Nancy Pelosi, was that he

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Speaker 2: didn't shut down more, he didn't shut down harder for longer.

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Speaker 2: It is so disingenuous, and it just requires Nancy Pelosi

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Speaker 2: just spewing this venom of stupidity, which she does all

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Speaker 2: the time, where it just doesn't matter to her in

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Speaker 2: the least how untrue and what a big pile of

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Speaker 2: point where even even Katie Turrea, I think, realized it

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Speaker 2: would be embarrassing. It would be embarrassing for her to

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Speaker 2: things that they can and do say about Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: but to pretend like the job losses of the pandemic

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Speaker 2: are representative of the Trump economy Trumpet comedy was fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden's economy stinks. Everybody knows it. And so what

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Speaker 2: Pelosi does is try out that talking point. There's that,

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Speaker 2: but then there's also this Pelosi saying that after the election,

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Speaker 2: Democrats and they've said this about other things before, but

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Speaker 2: that they would be willing to nuke the filibuster and

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Speaker 2: go for a national abortion law.

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Speaker 1: Seven play it.

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Speaker 5: And if President Biden gets re elected and there's a

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Speaker 5: Democratic House and a Democratic Senate, what can President Biden

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Speaker 5: the Democrats do to protect abortion nationwide?

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Speaker 4: Very clearly, we can line into the wall Roe v.

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Speaker 5: That would take two thirds in the Senate. I think

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Speaker 5: the Democrats can get two thirds in the Senate.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't get two thirds, that doesn't it. I mean, sixty

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Speaker 4: votes is the Senate now. But if we win fifty

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Speaker 4: we can overturn the sixty vote, the filibuster, the philibuster,

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Speaker 4: and pass it with a fifty one vote margin.

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Speaker 2: First of all, that would be inviting the just continued changes.

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Speaker 2: With every change of the Senate and the House, you

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Speaker 2: would have this back and forth over something as serious

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Speaker 2: beyond that, I do think that Clay the Democrats will

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Speaker 2: get rid of the filibuster. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 2: on this issue. It may be, but it is just

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Speaker 2: a matter of time. Let's not forget it was Democrats

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Speaker 3: I also think it would be a funny response to

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Speaker 3: the Nancy Pelosi commentary, not only on the filibuster, but

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Speaker 3: particularly on the job creation by Joe Biden and her

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Speaker 3: You know, FDR had a really rough record when it

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Speaker 3: because of COVID and because of Democrat policies. But her

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Speaker 3: have come to anticipate total propagandistic media to further their arguments,

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Speaker 3: even when they are intellectually dishonest, and even when they're

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Speaker 2: It almost felt like Nancy was about to fall out

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Speaker 2: to express her outrage at Katie Turf for not understanding

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Speaker 2: Biden's behind in every swing stack. Right now in the polls,

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Speaker 2: Biden is losing ground with each passing day.

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Speaker 1: This is not going the way the Democrats.

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Speaker 2: I really think now we're deep enough into the legal

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Speaker 2: would sing Trump. They were wrong, yes, meeting in public opinion.

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Speaker 2: but they thought public opinion would turn against Trump.

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Speaker 1: If they used the law fair.

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Speaker 2: They use the law fair canon the way that they

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Speaker 2: have and it's the opposite. And I think that they

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Speaker 3: It's turned into potentially the most destructive own goal in

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Speaker 3: modern American political history. Now there's still six months out.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about some of the latest numbers. So maybe

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Speaker 3: they still think they're going to get some benefit of it.

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Speaker 3: But right now Trump has painted them into a corner.

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Speaker 3: And even these discussions about contempt of court I think

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Speaker 3: that more in the meantime. Twenty dollars doesn't buy you

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. While many

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Speaker 1: Bravo.

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Speaker 3: Still hasn't happened at Columbia. Still hasn't happened at UCLA.

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Speaker 2: You know, my wife is a University of Florida alumna,

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Speaker 2: That's your head honcho of the of uff and he's

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Speaker 3: When Ben Sas left of the Senate, I thought to

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Speaker 3: to myself, Wow, he's really stepping down in terms of

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Speaker 2: They're making seven figures in a lot of these places.

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Speaker 1: I was totally wrong.

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Speaker 3: I think what he has done in terms of standing

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Speaker 3: You could have way more influence on this show in

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Speaker 3: And to your point, Buck, I think there are a

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Speaker 1: Think about that.

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Speaker 3: If you grew up in LA or New York City,

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Speaker 3: the idea that you would be sending your kid to

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Speaker 3: Alabama to get an education in two thousand, you would

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Speaker 3: have been crazy. Now they're fighting to get in.

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Speaker 2: I mean, my sister went to Davidson and I applied

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Speaker 2: to vandal Actually, so I mean there's Davidson.

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Speaker 3: I would say there are some Davidson is an elite

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Speaker 3: Acadavidson Vanderbilt a bunch of schools that have been popular.

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Speaker 1: Would you apply to an SEC school? I did not

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Speaker 1: apply to that. Well, I don't know what the SEC was. Okay, right,

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Speaker 1: So in two thousand years you graduate high school O.

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Speaker 1: Three h four.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't like a decade before you. I can't

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Speaker 2: do Yeah, exactly, I graduated in two thousand.

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Speaker 1: Okay, two thousand.

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Speaker 3: If you had walked into the the the admissions office

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Speaker 3: in two thousand at your elite high school and you

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Speaker 3: had said, hey, I'm trying to decide between Amherst and LSU,

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Speaker 3: your your admissions counselor would have strangled you to death

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Speaker 3: on like in that admissions office. I bet you that

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Speaker 3: there are starting to be conversations in your high school

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Speaker 3: now where somebody walks in and there like, hey, I

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Speaker 3: got a full ride to the University of Georgia or

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Speaker 3: I could go and have to pay nearly full freight

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Speaker 3: to go to Cornell.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you I had a legit argument. I

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Speaker 2: had a friend. I think it's called the Jefferson Scholarship

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Speaker 2: at UVA. Yes, I applied for that. Who got the

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Speaker 2: Jefferalship at UVA and got in. He was a white

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Speaker 2: Irish Catholic kid. He got into Harvard and he got

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Speaker 2: the Jefferson scholarship at UVA, and he went to Harvard

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Speaker 2: and took out loans. And I think that was I

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Speaker 2: think that was.

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Speaker 3: The wrong call. I think that was the wrong call.

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Speaker 3: My thought is the wrong call. Then my final call

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Speaker 3: for college was GW or UVA.

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Speaker 1: I got it.

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Speaker 3: I had a scholarship to both, and you can maybe

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Speaker 3: argue I made the wrong decision. I actually went to

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Speaker 3: GW because it was in d C. And I've got

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Speaker 3: a little bit bigger scholarship. But I really thought deeply

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Speaker 3: about that, and I still wonder if I made the

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Speaker 3: right decision, you know, long range. But that was an

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Speaker 3: elite college school. I guarantee you now those debates are

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Speaker 3: going on.

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Speaker 1: I talked to people abou this at the time.

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Speaker 2: Carrie said to me last night, she said, you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously we're hoping to start the family in the next year.

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Speaker 2: You know, God gone willing and saying prayers about it.

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Speaker 2: But she said, you know, what would you think if

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Speaker 2: if we had a son or daughter you know who

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Speaker 2: knows yep, And they wanted to go to UPS, and

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Speaker 2: I think that would be amazing. I think that would

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Speaker 2: be fantastic. I think that going to a place where

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Speaker 2: you're going to have a really good experience. And for

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Speaker 2: I know, we have more parents of children listening to

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Speaker 2: us than we do teenagers who are thinking about going

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Speaker 2: to college. But the experience and having having a really

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Speaker 2: sort of positive four years where you learn a lot

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Speaker 2: and grow a lot's.

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Speaker 1: More important than the resume bullet.

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Speaker 2: And I speak to somebody who took a job instead

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Speaker 2: of going to I got into a couple of Ivy

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Speaker 2: League MBA programs, and you know, I just looked at

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Speaker 2: how much time it would be off the working line

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Speaker 2: and how much debt I'd go into. I had no money.

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Speaker 2: I mean I had like, you know, like a thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars in the bank to my name when I was

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Speaker 2: applying to these schools and I decided to go work

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Speaker 2: for Glenn instead. I think it was the best, other

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Speaker 2: than marrying my wife, the best adult decision I ever made.

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Speaker 2: And I think that people are going to see this

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Speaker 2: play as also part of the big red state Blue

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Speaker 2: state storting. I mean, it's COVID put into motion, very

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Speaker 2: clear differences in philosophy, in governing philosophy, but also in

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Speaker 2: life philosophy that's playing out with the massive migrations. And

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Speaker 2: again I speak from experience to somebody who I don't

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Speaker 2: think anybody loved New York from the early nineteen eighties

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Speaker 2: until the you know late too, you know the twenty

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Speaker 2: ten era more than me. But I decided it was

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Speaker 2: time to change it up. And I think you're seeing

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Speaker 2: that with these schools too because of the protests. But

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Speaker 2: everything the protest is just one symptom of the larger

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Speaker 2: malady that's going on. I can tell you I don't

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Speaker 2: pay a lot of attention to where somebody went to college,

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Speaker 2: because we don't hire a lot of twenty two year olds.

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Speaker 2: I'm more interested in your work product at OutKick, and

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Speaker 2: when I've had impact in being able to hire over

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Speaker 2: the years, I can't tell you how many of where

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Speaker 2: everybody went to college that we employ now at OutKick.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you that if I was starting a

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Speaker 2: new company and I was hiring twenty two year olds,

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Speaker 2: I would be more likely to hire an SEC college graduate.

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Speaker 2: And I'm including like Clemson and Florida State Ish schools

533
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Speaker 2: in that mix, right, sec footprint schools Southern state footprints

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Speaker 2: than I would a Columbia grad. And I don't think

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Speaker 2: there's any way I would have said that twenty years ago.

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Speaker 2: And I bet there's a lot of you out there

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Speaker 2: now who are in that hiring universe. And when you

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Speaker 2: see a University of Florida resume, you kind of perk

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Speaker 2: up a little bit, and when you see a Columbia resume,

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Speaker 2: you kind of cringe a little bit because of what

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Speaker 2: you're seeing on those campuses. I'm going to be doing

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Speaker 2: this soon because my sixteen year old who's going to

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Speaker 2: be a junior next year. It's kind of when you

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Speaker 2: start to look at colleges and I'm gonna let him

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Speaker 2: make his own choices and he's got his own resume

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Speaker 2: and life ideals like anybody else, and I'm gonna be

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Speaker 2: going around to a lot of these campuses and visiting

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Speaker 2: them with him, and I'm curious to see it twenty

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Speaker 2: years later. I can tell you, for instance, as a parent,

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Speaker 2: when I read the Vanderbilt University statement on the first

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Speaker 2: Amendment from their new chancellor that was in the Wall

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Speaker 2: Street Journal and the fact that they kicked the kids

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Speaker 2: who broke the rules and attacked a guard out of

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Speaker 2: school immediately. It makes me feel way better about paying

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Speaker 2: tuition to Vanderbilt than I would if they had a

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Speaker 2: tent encampment there right now. And if there are tent

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Speaker 2: encampments on college campuses, if I were looking now, I

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Speaker 2: would cross those off my list. I'll let my sixteen

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Speaker 2: year old make his own decisions, but I'm going to

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Speaker 2: be in this process soon, and.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of these big state schools where

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Speaker 3: I would say, you know what, if you're especially if

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Speaker 3: you're in the honors college, if you get the opportunity

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Speaker 3: to go to those schools, I would say, take it

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Speaker 3: potentially over the Ivy League. Also, if you go to

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Speaker 3: go to grad school. My advice for people out there,

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Speaker 3: money's not unlimited. If you were going to spend money,

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Speaker 3: I would spend money on a law school, a medical school,

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Speaker 3: something like that, business school, maybe at an elite place

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Speaker 3: over undergrad degree I know you're going to go. I

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Speaker 3: know very few people now who look back on their MBA.

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Speaker 3: I have a lot of friends who got MBAs.

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Speaker 2: It's actually very common coming out of the government that

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Speaker 2: think that their NBA was really worth it. It was

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Speaker 2: kind of like two years of socializing and beer drinking

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Speaker 2: as an adult while you figured out your Morgan Stanley.

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Speaker 1: Gig not not pically worth.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 2: Do not allow your kid to do a journalism degree. Okay,

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Speaker 2: there's no need. Journalism is called. We agree on that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know a lot about business school. I love

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Speaker 2: The Vanderbilt Law School was probably the best three years

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Speaker 3: For Charlotte area police officers killed yesterday. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: He has a wife and four kids.

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Speaker 3: Police Department in Charlotte, Officer Joshua Eyer, North Carolina Department

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Speaker 3: of Adult Correction Officer Sam Paloche Poloche survived by a

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Speaker 1: Elliott has a wife and one kid.

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Speaker 3: Again, Tunnel of the Towers does incredible work with these guys,

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Speaker 3: vanish from the news, despite the fact that the data

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Speaker 3: all reflects and we had Heather MacDonald on I think

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Speaker 3: on this show years ago to lay this out because

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Speaker 3: I thought it was staggering. I believe the data was

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Speaker 3: buck that if you're a police officer, you have a

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Speaker 3: ten thousand percent greater odds of being shot and killed

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Speaker 1: I think it was ten thousand percent greater chance.

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Speaker 3: So every time somebody pulls over a police officer pulls

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Speaker 2: And I think the video just to be have you

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Speaker 2: seen it, by the way, the video of the of

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Speaker 2: the shootout where you can see two officers with long

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Speaker 2: guns and they are set up alongside their their vehicle.

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Speaker 1: It's up on the Daily Mail.

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Speaker 2: We could probably borrow the video and put it up

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Speaker 2: at claimbuck dot com and you can just see what

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Speaker 2: a you know, you could see the tactical situation that

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Speaker 2: they're in. They're behind the wheel, something people don't often

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Speaker 2: know from watching TV. But they taught us this in

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Speaker 2: the agency, and they certainly teaching law enforcement. Really, the

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Speaker 2: only parts of a car that will protect you from

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Speaker 2: gunfire are the engine block and behind the wheel well effectively,

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Speaker 2: so you want to crouch in behind a wheel or

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Speaker 2: right behind the engine block. The stuff you see in

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Speaker 2: TV where you know doors doors or Swiss cheese glass

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Speaker 2: Swiss cheese. It just goes right through. Bullets to go

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Speaker 2: right through, so you can see the officers. Now, I

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Speaker 2: don't believe either those officers were injured, but they were

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Speaker 2: of them engaging with two shooters. It was two shooters

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Speaker 2: who ambushed these officers, was what I read. So we

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Speaker 2: do say a prayer for the families. And I know

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Speaker 2: tunult To Towers, as you mentioned, Clay, Well, we'll be

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Speaker 2: take us in the next hour, my friend, other than

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Speaker 2: taking us to be very supportive of our history. With

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Speaker 2: speaking of Tunata Towers, we are working with them with

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Speaker 3: You guys are signing up like crazy, and we said

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Speaker 3: when we founded the company, we want to have of

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Speaker 3: a substantial give back campaign as a part of owning

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Speaker 3: this company because not only do we believe one hundred

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Speaker 3: percent in the exceptionalness of America and American history, we

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Speaker 3: know that many of you are out there fighting every

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Speaker 3: single day to protect all of us. And we said

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Speaker 3: we want to give money to Tunnel the Towers, so

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Speaker 3: we're going to be I believe. At their gala event

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Speaker 3: in December, I was there as a presenter last year.

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Speaker 3: We're going to have a table or we're donating as

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Speaker 3: the proceeds that we bring in we're going to be

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Speaker 3: first responders and service people out there who are losing

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Speaker 3: their lives protecting us every single day. When we come back,

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Speaker 3: top of the next hour, So thank you for all

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Speaker 3: your supportive Crockett Coffee know that we care about it

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