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How fired 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:35.960 up are you about this week? 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:39.119 Well, you know how fired up We are doing games 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.839 during the season, but when the season is over, draft 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:45.839 season starts, and that's when we started. I can't wait 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:47.920 for this. There's been a lot of work for all 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:50.920 three of us. This is your thirty eighth draft. Thirty 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:51.559 eighth draft. 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:54.200 What do you remember about the first one in nineteen 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:57.280 eighty six? Twelve rounds in one day and you had 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:58.880 just joined the Bears staff. 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:01.800 I just joined joined the Bear staff, and so I 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.960 had no reports. They didn't trust me yet, you know, 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:08.320 they didn't know who I was from, come from Sickam, 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.480 but just the atmosphere of it. But I remember it 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:15.040 just being a really a real grind, Mike. It was 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:18.080 twelve rounds in one day. Who's the most memorable pick 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:22.520 from that draft for you? Ah? The most from that draft? 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:25.560 I know. The first report I wrote was on Junior 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:29.200 sayou I remember that? Was that a hard win to write? 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:30.440 It was? 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:34.359 Why's that? Well? Because Bill Tobin said, look, if you 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:36.520 want to learn, I want to see how your reports 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:42.320 are because he mainly he played down and he rushed. 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.640 But Bill Tobin said, where do you think he will 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:49.079 be in the National Football League? And so going through it, 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:50.480 you know, he ended up being one of the great 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.079 will linebackers in the National Football League, you know, as 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:54.880 you well know. But it was a stand up behind 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.040 the ball guy. But it was a transformation from a 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.440 guy on the edge that was just wreaking havoc, you know, 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:04.040 from the edge. And so for me and especially look 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:06.560 with Bill Tobin, who is probably one of the better 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.080 ones who have ever done it. His son, Duke Tobin's 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.280 doing a great job now in Cincinnati. He was very 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.600 exacting on the way that you read a report. And 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.840 I've done this with Rhett before. You know. Bill Tobin 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:22.760 told me, don't give don't give me the David Copperfield version, 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.239 the David Copperfield version. I don't need a lot of 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:26.880 I don't need a lot of litany in this. I 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:28.680 want to know. He told me. 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.520 His version was, he said, I don't want Charles Dickens, 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:33.560 give me them, give me the meat and potatoes of 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:33.840 this thing. 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:39.320 I want. I want something that references them as football players. 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:42.800 So how many reports have you and Rhett written in 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:46.040 evaluating the twenty twenty three draft class. 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:48.920 Actually, and again this goes back to this goes back 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:52.080 to my start. I don't ever put down anything about 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.000 a player unless I've watched three game tapes. Okay, So 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.120 I would say for myself the game tapes that I've 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:01.160 watched is probably close to three hundred. Wow. And so 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.600 you guys together have evaluated even more than that. Yes, 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.520 because Rent Rent's part in all this, which he's become 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:09.640 fabulous at it, he wanted to learn how to do 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:12.080 it when I first came here. He's the background guy, 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:17.080 and digging background is huge. You know, most people have well, 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.240 all these other thirty two teams that are doing this, Mike, 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:21.960 as you well know. I mean, they have large staffs 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:25.640 that divided up. Redd is a tremendous background guy. Plus 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.680 he can he gathers information from a lot of different errors. 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:30.680 Then we put together. Then we kind of collaborate on 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:34.400 what we've what I've seen on tape, what he's dug up, 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.599 what we've read, what we've heard. You know, it's it's 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.960 a pretty extensive process. So there's more than that. When 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:44.000 we started putting together our vertical horizontal board. There are 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:48.440 more players in that, but I can't legitimately say that 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:50.800 some of those at the bottom may I may have 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.440 only seen him on one tape, or I may have. 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.440 It's been a consensus of what Rent has pulled together 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.200 and from what I have pulled together. I think both 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:01.120 of our phone bills probably go up quite a bit 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:04.440 in the last three months. Well, and that's part of 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:05.000 the process. 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:10.440 Mike is just like in war rooms, they're cross checking 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:16.560 each other's thumbnail descriptions and write ups. I'm gathering from 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:20.560 different places, and that's why I'm reading to him on 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:25.000 long conference calls what a thumbnail description sounds like and 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.080 if it matches up with what he's seen on film. 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:28.839 That's why he says, don't give me Charles Dickens. I 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.800 don't need a Christmas Carol. Give me the keywords and 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:34.960 phrases that we're talking about with a player who is 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.760 high hipped and you know doesn't have the short area quickness, 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.440 or you know this guy is very fluid in space, 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:44.320 all those things that you're looking for without the descriptive adjectives. 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:46.440 All right, Well, let's get to it. What I've done 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.520 is I've put together six questions that I want to 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:54.839 ask you today about defense. Today's Monday Tomorrow, I want 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:56.919 to ask the questions about offense. We're going to go 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:00.560 defense first. Here's question number one. As you looked at 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:04.200 and graded roughly three hundred players in the twenty twenty 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:09.120 three draft, coach Mack, what stood out about this crop 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:11.560 of defensive player in our top. 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.760 One hundred which we win o down on that there 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:18.520 are fifteen edge players and fourteen cornerbacks is what we 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:20.880 came up with. That's a pretty high number. That's a 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:23.960 high number for two positions that have become very very 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.719 critical in the National Football League. And to have double 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.039 digit players in the top one hundred, there will be 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:32.400 one hundred and two players chosen in the first two days, 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:34.400 and so that's what stood out to me. 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:38.880 The same for me, my answer was that the cornerback 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.920 class is as deep as it is. And as Mac 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:45.840 just said, we have fourteen guys in the top one hundred, 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.320 and I mean all different shapes and sizes, all different 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.960 skill sets, all different Power five and even non Power 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:57.600 five schools that they're coming from in this thing. Very 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:00.800 deep class for that, and these edge pass rushers. He's right, 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:02.400 there's a long list of those as well. 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:07.200 Who is the best defensive player in the twenty twenty 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:11.440 three NFL draft ratt For me, it's Jalen Carter from Georgia, 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:16.360 and the reason being is just he is much like 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:20.240 Jeffrey Simmons Big jeff Is to the Titans. He's that 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.600 kind of player in terms of his natural skill set 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:28.440 and a blend of athleticism and power. There are moments 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:33.200 in times where he seems unblockable, and I think the 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.720 only thing that anyone would say on a negative term 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.640 with him is that you know, they need to see 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:43.160 more of it and more consistently, because there are flashes 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:46.800 of dominance and then there's some places where it's you know, 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:50.240 more pedestrian for lack of a better term. But the 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:56.840 guy is a mega monster space eater who just bullies blockers, 0:07:57.640 --> 0:07:58.480 bullies them. 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.840 I want to say Will Landers because of the consistency. 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:06.240 I mean, Rhett is right on, right on track. But 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:09.520 to me, if you're talking about over a consistent basis, 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.000 if you draft a guy and you know what you're getting, 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:15.160 Will Anderson is is the is the is the guy 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.160 to me? And the other thing that stood out to 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.240 me when I went to the combine to to watch 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.680 him work. Will Anderson and his representation have known that 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.160 he's going to be the one of the top guys 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:29.320 way long. He did every drill at the combine. Does 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:32.560 that mean something? Maybe? Maybe not? But he went over 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:35.720 and above to do everything. They even after all of 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:39.559 their all of their exercises were over, they asked some 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.199 different ones to stay to run a hoop drill, the 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:45.199 Jim Washburn drill, the Jim Washburn drill where they run 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.520 two hoops and pick up towels and play them down. 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:51.319 He stayed and did that. So to me, it's it's 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.200 Will Anderson. Okay, if that's question too. This one would 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:57.760 be to a a bonus question, if you will, who's 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:02.040 the second best defensive player in Jalen Carter? Carter? Yeah, 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.840 those guys to me and for all the reasons, Rhett 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:08.640 just said it. Uh. When I used to go out 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.480 recruiting this time of year or go at the school visits. 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.120 When I was the head coach at Arizona UH for 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.320 eight years, Joe Green was my defensive line coach, and 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:19.280 so we'd always go look at defensive linemen and Joe 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:21.199 and I would travel together all over the country to 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:25.440 these schools, and one of his best sayings was, coach mac, 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.920 when we find a bear walking on two hind legs, 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.120 we've got to get them. This is a bear on 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:32.000 two hind legs. 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:36.320 Feels like Seattle at five. That he's a Pete Carroll 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:37.120 type player. 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:42.040 Yeah, I mean that he would fit anybody, sure, And 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.440 so I mean, I'm sure we'll get into some other 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:50.520 issues here, but let me say this about my coaching career. 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:58.120 Came into the league and we had Eric Swan the Cardinals. 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:00.920 Now he had a little issue. Never went to college, 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:04.480 never went to college, came from the Bay City Titans. Okay, 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.280 find them on a map, all right, But he was 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.079 one of those bears that walked around on two hind legs. 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:10.640 All right. 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:11.360 Uh. 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:16.400 When I came here, we had Albert Haynesworth, you're of 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:19.120 vol for life. He had, he had, he had a 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:24.520 couple of things. Yeah, go on that butt, bear walking 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:28.000 on two hind legs. One hundred million dollar player, okay 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:33.800 to the Rams. Aaron Donald too short, too short. So 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.960 there was something there that was, you know, was a problem, 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.679 you know, but you have to work beyond those types 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:44.679 of things. So Jalen Carter as far as being able 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.640 to be a destroyer of the triangle the way we 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:51.200 talk about it when you're evaluating players down inside, he's 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.520 a destroyer of the triangle in a major way. Like 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.480 those other guys that I just mentioned that I had 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.079 the privilege to be on a staff coaching. 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.240 Davis certainly would have taken him if he were still 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.760 running the Raiders. That's for she wouldn't be worried about 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:09.520 the off the field issues. No, But Carol is that 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.440 kind of guy too. He was that way at USC 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:13.920 and he's been that way at Seattle. I mean, he 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:15.880 got a lot of people's attention when he traded for 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.520 Marshawn Lynch. Marshawn Lynch is in Buffalo and he's all 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.920 kinds of problems quote unquote, and you know, he's proven 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.800 to be a guy who can get it out of 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:27.920 guys who have issues. 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:31.640 Off the field, absolutely, and issues off the field don't 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:34.520 fall into just one general category. They do not fall 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.520 into one general category. And you got to go deeper 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.800 into the person. And all of those guys that I 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:43.679 just mentioned were really good teammates, great teammates, and great players. 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.679 But for all of the pundits saying it he ain't 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:48.080 falling out of the top ten. 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:53.680 No, bring me that pundit. Yeah, well I can bring 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:54.040 you a few. 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:56.880 All right, Grett, your answer to the bonus question, who's 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.440 the second best defensive player in this draft? I have 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:03.079 a feeling you're gonna say, Will anders Landers Yeah, and 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:04.400 you know mine. 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:07.720 It's left to interpretation for me about who's the best 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.520 and who's the second best. And I thought, just in 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:15.520 terms of massive talent, Jaylen Carter was off the chart 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:20.439 for me. Despite whatever off field issues, Will Anderson could 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.080 very well be the answer to the first question in 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:26.000 this because Max right, I mean six three and a half, 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:29.240 two fifty three, long arms, big hands, eighty one inch, 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:32.120 wing four to six. One of the forty his first 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.800 ten yards was one six one. He's in the top 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.599 five in NCAA in quarterbacks acts with thirty four and 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:41.280 a half and forty one games in a massive program 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.480 that is a perennial powerhouse in this And the thing 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:45.880 about him is the versatility. 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.240 I mean, Mike, he can do it all. He can. 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.360 He can drop back into coverage, he can stop the run, 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.000 he can rush off the edge. He's been lined up 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:58.079 all over the place, and he'll instantly be a leader 0:12:58.120 --> 0:12:59.880 and a starter for whoever takes him. 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:04.600 Shows up in Tuscaloosa, Alabama on that team which is 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:08.760 basically a pro farm team defensively, especially with what they've 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:12.120 put out, I mean, it's been remarkable. He walks in 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.960 and he doesn't just go into the rotation. He becomes 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:20.959 a starter from the jump at Alabama for Nick Saban 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:22.000 on defense. 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:26.400 Wow, bear walking on two hind legs. 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:29.640 I got that more news for you Titans fans that 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:30.800 you're certainly gonna want to hear. 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:31.439 It's official. 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.480 Seat Geek is now the official ticketing partner of the 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.480 Tennessee Titans. That's right, the deal is finalized in Seat 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:41.160 Geek is the newest member of the Titans family. If 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.200 you haven't heard the name yet, get used to it, 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.600 because you'll be hearing it a lot more this season. 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.880 Whether you're buying or selling tickets to Titans games or 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.480 to any other live event in Nashville, Seat Geek is 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:56.199 the place to do it. Seat Geek the new official 0:13:56.280 --> 0:14:01.120 ticketing partner of the Tennessee Titans. So Titans fan fan 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:06.840 question three, Who is the most highly rated defensive player 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:11.960 that might drop for whatever reason. Ret Brian first. 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.400 The only one I can really point to, and I'm 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.160 sure Max got a better answer. But you know, maybe 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.400 Jalen Carter because of the off field stuff, but there's 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.160 so much there on the field. I just have doubts 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.520 that that's a thing. I'm going to defer to Coach 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:26.160 Mac on this. 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:32.560 Jalen Carter. Okay, it's Jalen Carter because the issue with 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.080 the incident that came up, it came up so close 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:40.520 to the draft process. I mean it affected his combine, 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.400 you know, it affected his combine what he was going. 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.080 So Jalen Carter is the answer to me. And you 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:47.880 could also say it affected his pro day. 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.520 Yes, he shows up at his pro day heavier, he 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:54.200 can't complete the workout. People go back and look at 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.680 the tape to see if there are things that match up. 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:01.160 Does he love football? Does he care enough? Is he 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.720 gonna get what this is all about? But you're saying 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.800 in terms of fall maybe from top two or three 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:12.880 to maybe potentially seven, eight or nine. 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.040 That would be the floor for me. 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.040 Yes, So you don't think neither one of you think 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:22.680 there's gonna be a great value, an overrated value that 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:27.920 would fall to the Titans at eleven from a defensive perspective. No, 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:31.880 all right, so let's go to this question four. What's 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:37.240 the best case for a defensive player scenario for the 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:38.880 Titans at pick eleven? 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:42.440 Coach mac don't say Nolan Smith, oh wow, from Georgia 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:46.000 or I'm gonna do it, and you know, in honor 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.040 of Amy Wells, who's not here, who's on the way 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.960 to get multiple choices, a multiple choice, the other one 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:54.200 would be Devon Witherspoon corner from Illinois. 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.320 Now, let's talk about that for just a second before 0:15:56.360 --> 0:16:00.360 red answers. A lot of people who are listening to 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:04.479 the OTP right now, whether they be the people who subscribe, 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.880 rate and review the OTP, which we appreciate those known 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.080 as the ot people, or people who are just in 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:15.800 for draft week, sampling the OTP and ready to become 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:16.880 an ot person. 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:21.320 Why would you take a corner at eleven with all 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:25.960 of the other needs you wouldn't, Okay, But I'm just saying, 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:30.200 for the type of player that we're talking about, dropping 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.800 all the way to Devon Witherspoon is really a good player, sure, 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.600 even though he's an undersized corner. When you look at 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:40.600 his tape. He is really really sticky and in phase 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:45.960 reminds me a little bit. And there's another corner in 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.520 this draft that reminds me even more of a Titan 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.480 great Samari role. And so that's why I put his 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:52.960 name up there. It's interesting. 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:57.200 I wonder if they might go corner at eleven. 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.400 You don't think so, well, I didn't say that. I'm 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:00.960 just saying my hand and saying they can do anything 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:04.359 they want now. And this is why it open to speculation. 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:07.360 That's why I love doing this. And here's the other 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.199 thing that you know for the three of us is 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:13.199 connected as we are to the Tennessee Titans franchise. We 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:17.439 don't ask no, and we don't know because we're just talking. 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:18.919 We're just talking. That's right. 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.919 As I say, well, I think corners good value at eleven. 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.040 I know a lot of people shudder at that, but 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:29.159 it's such a vital position anything on the outside in 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:33.000 this game today, whether it be receivers, corners, edge rushers, tackles, 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:38.360 even tight ends. Man, it's it's hard to find those guys. Okay, rhet, 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:42.080 what is the best case scenario for a defensive player 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:43.800 for the Titans at pick eleven. 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.320 Well, I don't see either of these happening, but and 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:51.000 we're playing scenarios here. My first answer was, Jalen Carter. 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.200 If he's there at eleven, you better take him, You 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:56.240 better take him. And then I don't think he gets 0:17:56.320 --> 0:18:00.360 by Philly. I don't think so either. Yeah, but my lord, 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.880 if you had him with Jeffrey Simmons, Tierre Tartan, I mean, 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.560 just think of the possibilities there. 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:08.160 Well, especially with the cost containment you would have on 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:12.200 that player for four years, yes to a fifth, knowing 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:16.600 that you're paying jeff that would be potentially like adding 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.840 a big time free agent at a quarter of the cost. 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:23.440 Right, And then, in honor of Amy Wells, my other 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:25.119 answer would have been, and I don't think this is 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.400 going to be a thing, but the cornerback from Oregon, 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:31.280 Christian Gonzales, Because I mean, that's a top flight dude 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:31.800 right there. 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:36.480 Do the two top corners Witherspoon and Gonzales go in 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:41.480 the top ten rat both of them? Yes, Yes, Gonzales 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:42.800 is our top corner. 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:48.000 He's a nice player, transfer from Colorado to play at 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:50.200 Oregon and did a great job, great athlete. All right, 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:55.199 here's question five, Roger McCrary was an incredible draft bargain 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.720 for the Titans early in the second round last year. 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:02.080 Each of you give me two two prospects that could 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:05.560 be there for the Titans at number forty one that 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:10.359 would be the same type of outstanding value as McCrary. 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:14.679 All right, in honor of Amy Wells, I'll give you three. 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:18.920 DJ Turner, cornerback from Michigan and the four to two 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:23.080 seven didn't he? Yes he did. Jervon Dexter, defensive tackle 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:27.840 from Florida, or Keon White edge player from Georgia Tech. 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:29.840 He is interesting, Yes he is. 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:34.960 He is really interesting because he's d line size, but 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:36.800 he's can he can drop. 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:39.360 He can drop, he can drop, and he can move though. 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:43.520 I mean, just looking at our overall vertical and horizontal board, 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:45.240 those are three names that kind of stood out to me. 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:49.760 For me, it is the Bukus Award winner from twenty 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.639 twenty two who started eleven games as a true freshman 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:56.480 at Iowa's Jack Campbell, the linebacker six five two forty one, 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:00.960 had a six seven four three hone drill. His short 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:05.439 subtle four to two four almost eleven foot broad thirty 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:08.520 seven and a half inch vertical, you know, over three 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:11.480 hundred tackles, twelve and a half for loss. You know, 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:15.280 just a big time player there that could be there. 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:17.800 And then my second one would be a very long 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.480 cornerback that we saw starting at the Senior Bowl in 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:24.440 mobilist Julius Prince from Kansas State six three one ninety eight. 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:27.199 You know, had a wing of eighty two inches, one 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:29.960 hundred and eleven tackles in thirty four games, played six 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:32.680 and a half for lost, a force fumble, ten breakups, 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:35.920 and six picks in his career. Either of those would 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.320 be a fantastic value in the second round. 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:40.720 And I want to remind everybody listening to the OTP, 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:46.920 we are just talking defense today. Tomorrow we will talk offense. 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:49.680 Will do six questions with coach Mack and Rett Bryan 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:53.199 on offense. Reminding you to Titans fans, it's hard to 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:55.639 decide what's the best part of a dunk and run. 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:59.320 Is it coffee? Is it the one dollar classic donut 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:03.639 or the two stuffed bagel minis or the three dollars sausage, 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.760 egg and cheese that you can add to that coffee, 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:09.719 or the fact that you get to leave the office. 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:12.920 The answer of course, is yes, time for a dunk 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:15.960 and run right now. You can continue to listen to 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:18.040 the OTP on your phone as you make the run. 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:21.920 Great deals on food for one, two or three dollars 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:26.440 with a medium or larger coffee, reminding you America runs 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:32.120 on Duncan. Staying with defense, question six, we talked day three, 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:37.240 give me a defensive position group where you think the 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:43.680 Titans can find great value on Saturday, Ret Bryan, I will. 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:46.480 Go a couple of different directions here. First of all, 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:51.760 defensive tackle D line. There's a couple of guys who 0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:54.919 I think could really be someone who could help in 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:58.120 that area. One of those is KeAndre Coburn from Texas, 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:01.720 who's a big run stopper. Another one is Zach Pickens, 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:05.719 the former running back who's a hoss for South Carolina. 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:08.720