1 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: Farm Bureau Health Plans is celebrating seventy five years of 3 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: providing Tennesseeans with high quality healthcare coverage at an affordable cost. 4 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: Visit FBHP dot com to learn about our history in Tennessee. 5 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: With Titans Radio's Draft duo RTT, Brian and coach Dave McGinnis. 6 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: I am Mike Keith, and we are here. It is 7 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: Draft week. We will have OTPs each day through Saturday. 8 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: We are very excited about this. We will remind you 9 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: about Titans Radios coverage of the twenty twenty three NFL 10 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: Draft live from Sixth and Peabody third Tuesday Night, beginning 11 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: at six o'clock. Our whole team in place, along with 12 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: Brad Hopkins and Ramon Foster. Glad to have them with us, 13 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: and it's presented by Pinnacle RTT. We want everybody to 14 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: come down and join the party. We would love to 15 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: see your smiling faces there. Six and Peabody's a great 16 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: space to be in. They have a stage for us, 17 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: a giant screen behind us that will have the draft 18 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: following along with the video part of it. But we 19 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: want you listening to us and we would love to 20 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: see you there. You could probably catch a beverage while 21 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: you're there. I believe you could coach back. How fired 22 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: up are you about this week? 23 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 2: Well, you know how fired up We are doing games 24 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 2: during the season, but when the season is over, draft 25 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 2: season starts, and that's when we started. I can't wait 26 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: for this. There's been a lot of work for all 27 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: three of us. This is your thirty eighth draft. Thirty 28 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 2: eighth draft. 29 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: What do you remember about the first one in nineteen 30 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: eighty six? Twelve rounds in one day and you had 31 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: just joined the Bears staff. 32 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: I just joined joined the Bear staff, and so I 33 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: had no reports. They didn't trust me yet, you know, 34 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: they didn't know who I was from, come from Sickam, 35 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: but just the atmosphere of it. But I remember it 36 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: just being a really a real grind, Mike. It was 37 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: twelve rounds in one day. Who's the most memorable pick 38 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: from that draft for you? Ah? The most from that draft? 39 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: I know. The first report I wrote was on Junior 40 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: sayou I remember that? Was that a hard win to write? 41 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: It was? 42 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 2: Why's that? Well? Because Bill Tobin said, look, if you 43 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: want to learn, I want to see how your reports 44 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: are because he mainly he played down and he rushed. 45 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: But Bill Tobin said, where do you think he will 46 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: be in the National Football League? And so going through it, 47 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: you know, he ended up being one of the great 48 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 2: will linebackers in the National Football League, you know, as 49 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: you well know. But it was a stand up behind 50 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: the ball guy. But it was a transformation from a 51 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: guy on the edge that was just wreaking havoc, you know, 52 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: from the edge. And so for me and especially look 53 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: with Bill Tobin, who is probably one of the better 54 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: ones who have ever done it. His son, Duke Tobin's 55 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: doing a great job now in Cincinnati. He was very 56 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: exacting on the way that you read a report. And 57 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: I've done this with Rhett before. You know. Bill Tobin 58 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: told me, don't give don't give me the David Copperfield version, 59 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 2: the David Copperfield version. I don't need a lot of 60 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: I don't need a lot of litany in this. I 61 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: want to know. He told me. 62 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: His version was, he said, I don't want Charles Dickens, 63 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: give me them, give me the meat and potatoes of 64 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 3: this thing. 65 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: I want. I want something that references them as football players. 66 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: So how many reports have you and Rhett written in 67 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: evaluating the twenty twenty three draft class. 68 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: Actually, and again this goes back to this goes back 69 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: to my start. I don't ever put down anything about 70 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: a player unless I've watched three game tapes. Okay, So 71 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: I would say for myself the game tapes that I've 72 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: watched is probably close to three hundred. Wow. And so 73 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: you guys together have evaluated even more than that. Yes, 74 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: because Rent Rent's part in all this, which he's become 75 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: fabulous at it, he wanted to learn how to do 76 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: it when I first came here. He's the background guy, 77 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: and digging background is huge. You know, most people have well, 78 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: all these other thirty two teams that are doing this, Mike, 79 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: as you well know. I mean, they have large staffs 80 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: that divided up. Redd is a tremendous background guy. Plus 81 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: he can he gathers information from a lot of different errors. 82 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: Then we put together. Then we kind of collaborate on 83 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: what we've what I've seen on tape, what he's dug up, 84 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: what we've read, what we've heard. You know, it's it's 85 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: a pretty extensive process. So there's more than that. When 86 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: we started putting together our vertical horizontal board. There are 87 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: more players in that, but I can't legitimately say that 88 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: some of those at the bottom may I may have 89 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: only seen him on one tape, or I may have. 90 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: It's been a consensus of what Rent has pulled together 91 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: and from what I have pulled together. I think both 92 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: of our phone bills probably go up quite a bit 93 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: in the last three months. Well, and that's part of 94 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: the process. 95 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: Mike is just like in war rooms, they're cross checking 96 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: each other's thumbnail descriptions and write ups. I'm gathering from 97 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: different places, and that's why I'm reading to him on 98 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: long conference calls what a thumbnail description sounds like and 99 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: if it matches up with what he's seen on film. 100 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 3: That's why he says, don't give me Charles Dickens. I 101 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: don't need a Christmas Carol. Give me the keywords and 102 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: phrases that we're talking about with a player who is 103 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: high hipped and you know doesn't have the short area quickness, 104 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: or you know this guy is very fluid in space, 105 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: all those things that you're looking for without the descriptive adjectives. 106 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's get to it. What I've done 107 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: is I've put together six questions that I want to 108 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: ask you today about defense. Today's Monday Tomorrow, I want 109 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: to ask the questions about offense. We're going to go 110 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: defense first. Here's question number one. As you looked at 111 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: and graded roughly three hundred players in the twenty twenty 112 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: three draft, coach Mack, what stood out about this crop 113 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: of defensive player in our top. 114 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: One hundred which we win o down on that there 115 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: are fifteen edge players and fourteen cornerbacks is what we 116 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: came up with. That's a pretty high number. That's a 117 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: high number for two positions that have become very very 118 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: critical in the National Football League. And to have double 119 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 2: digit players in the top one hundred, there will be 120 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: one hundred and two players chosen in the first two days, 121 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: and so that's what stood out to me. 122 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: The same for me, my answer was that the cornerback 123 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 3: class is as deep as it is. And as Mac 124 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 3: just said, we have fourteen guys in the top one hundred, 125 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: and I mean all different shapes and sizes, all different 126 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: skill sets, all different Power five and even non Power 127 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 3: five schools that they're coming from in this thing. Very 128 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 3: deep class for that, and these edge pass rushers. He's right, 129 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: there's a long list of those as well. 130 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: Who is the best defensive player in the twenty twenty 131 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: three NFL draft ratt For me, it's Jalen Carter from Georgia, 132 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: and the reason being is just he is much like 133 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons Big jeff Is to the Titans. He's that 134 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: kind of player in terms of his natural skill set 135 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: and a blend of athleticism and power. There are moments 136 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: in times where he seems unblockable, and I think the 137 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: only thing that anyone would say on a negative term 138 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: with him is that you know, they need to see 139 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: more of it and more consistently, because there are flashes 140 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: of dominance and then there's some places where it's you know, 141 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: more pedestrian for lack of a better term. But the 142 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: guy is a mega monster space eater who just bullies blockers, 143 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: bullies them. 144 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: I want to say Will Landers because of the consistency. 145 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: I mean, Rhett is right on, right on track. But 146 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: to me, if you're talking about over a consistent basis, 147 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: if you draft a guy and you know what you're getting, 148 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: Will Anderson is is the is the is the guy 149 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: to me? And the other thing that stood out to 150 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: me when I went to the combine to to watch 151 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: him work. Will Anderson and his representation have known that 152 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: he's going to be the one of the top guys 153 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: way long. He did every drill at the combine. Does 154 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: that mean something? Maybe? Maybe not? But he went over 155 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: and above to do everything. They even after all of 156 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 2: their all of their exercises were over, they asked some 157 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 2: different ones to stay to run a hoop drill, the 158 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 2: Jim Washburn drill, the Jim Washburn drill where they run 159 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: two hoops and pick up towels and play them down. 160 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 2: He stayed and did that. So to me, it's it's 161 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 2: Will Anderson. Okay, if that's question too. This one would 162 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: be to a a bonus question, if you will, who's 163 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: the second best defensive player in Jalen Carter? Carter? Yeah, 164 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: those guys to me and for all the reasons, Rhett 165 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: just said it. Uh. When I used to go out 166 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: recruiting this time of year or go at the school visits. 167 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: When I was the head coach at Arizona UH for 168 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 2: eight years, Joe Green was my defensive line coach, and 169 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: so we'd always go look at defensive linemen and Joe 170 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 2: and I would travel together all over the country to 171 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: these schools, and one of his best sayings was, coach mac, 172 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: when we find a bear walking on two hind legs, 173 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: we've got to get them. This is a bear on 174 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: two hind legs. 175 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: Feels like Seattle at five. That he's a Pete Carroll 176 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: type player. 177 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that he would fit anybody, sure, And 178 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: so I mean, I'm sure we'll get into some other 179 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: issues here, but let me say this about my coaching career. 180 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: Came into the league and we had Eric Swan the Cardinals. 181 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: Now he had a little issue. Never went to college, 182 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 2: never went to college, came from the Bay City Titans. Okay, 183 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: find them on a map, all right, But he was 184 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 2: one of those bears that walked around on two hind legs. 185 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: All right. 186 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: Uh. 187 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: When I came here, we had Albert Haynesworth, you're of 188 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: vol for life. He had, he had, he had a 189 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: couple of things. Yeah, go on that butt, bear walking 190 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: on two hind legs. One hundred million dollar player, okay 191 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: to the Rams. Aaron Donald too short, too short. So 192 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: there was something there that was, you know, was a problem, 193 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 2: you know, but you have to work beyond those types 194 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 2: of things. So Jalen Carter as far as being able 195 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: to be a destroyer of the triangle the way we 196 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: talk about it when you're evaluating players down inside, he's 197 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: a destroyer of the triangle in a major way. Like 198 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: those other guys that I just mentioned that I had 199 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 2: the privilege to be on a staff coaching. 200 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: Davis certainly would have taken him if he were still 201 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: running the Raiders. That's for she wouldn't be worried about 202 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: the off the field issues. No, But Carol is that 203 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: kind of guy too. He was that way at USC 204 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: and he's been that way at Seattle. I mean, he 205 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: got a lot of people's attention when he traded for 206 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch. Marshawn Lynch is in Buffalo and he's all 207 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: kinds of problems quote unquote, and you know, he's proven 208 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: to be a guy who can get it out of 209 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: guys who have issues. 210 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: Off the field, absolutely, and issues off the field don't 211 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: fall into just one general category. They do not fall 212 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: into one general category. And you got to go deeper 213 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: into the person. And all of those guys that I 214 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: just mentioned were really good teammates, great teammates, and great players. 215 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: But for all of the pundits saying it he ain't 216 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: falling out of the top ten. 217 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 2: No, bring me that pundit. Yeah, well I can bring 218 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: you a few. 219 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: All right, Grett, your answer to the bonus question, who's 220 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: the second best defensive player in this draft? I have 221 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: a feeling you're gonna say, Will anders Landers Yeah, and 222 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: you know mine. 223 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 3: It's left to interpretation for me about who's the best 224 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 3: and who's the second best. And I thought, just in 225 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: terms of massive talent, Jaylen Carter was off the chart 226 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 3: for me. Despite whatever off field issues, Will Anderson could 227 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 3: very well be the answer to the first question in 228 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 3: this because Max right, I mean six three and a half, 229 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: two fifty three, long arms, big hands, eighty one inch, 230 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: wing four to six. One of the forty his first 231 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: ten yards was one six one. He's in the top 232 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,599 Speaker 3: five in NCAA in quarterbacks acts with thirty four and 233 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: a half and forty one games in a massive program 234 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 3: that is a perennial powerhouse in this And the thing 235 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: about him is the versatility. 236 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: I mean, Mike, he can do it all. He can. 237 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 3: He can drop back into coverage, he can stop the run, 238 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 3: he can rush off the edge. He's been lined up 239 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 3: all over the place, and he'll instantly be a leader 240 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: and a starter for whoever takes him. 241 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: Shows up in Tuscaloosa, Alabama on that team which is 242 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: basically a pro farm team defensively, especially with what they've 243 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: put out, I mean, it's been remarkable. He walks in 244 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: and he doesn't just go into the rotation. He becomes 245 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: a starter from the jump at Alabama for Nick Saban 246 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: on defense. 247 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: Wow, bear walking on two hind legs. 248 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: I got that more news for you Titans fans that 249 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: you're certainly gonna want to hear. 250 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 2: It's official. 251 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: Seat Geek is now the official ticketing partner of the 252 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. That's right, the deal is finalized in Seat 253 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: Geek is the newest member of the Titans family. If 254 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: you haven't heard the name yet, get used to it, 255 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: because you'll be hearing it a lot more this season. 256 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: Whether you're buying or selling tickets to Titans games or 257 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: to any other live event in Nashville, Seat Geek is 258 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: the place to do it. Seat Geek the new official 259 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: ticketing partner of the Tennessee Titans. So Titans fan fan 260 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: question three, Who is the most highly rated defensive player 261 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: that might drop for whatever reason. Ret Brian first. 262 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: The only one I can really point to, and I'm 263 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 3: sure Max got a better answer. But you know, maybe 264 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 3: Jalen Carter because of the off field stuff, but there's 265 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 3: so much there on the field. I just have doubts 266 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: that that's a thing. I'm going to defer to Coach 267 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: Mac on this. 268 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: Jalen Carter. Okay, it's Jalen Carter because the issue with 269 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: the incident that came up, it came up so close 270 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: to the draft process. I mean it affected his combine, 271 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: you know, it affected his combine what he was going. 272 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: So Jalen Carter is the answer to me. And you 273 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: could also say it affected his pro day. 274 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: Yes, he shows up at his pro day heavier, he 275 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: can't complete the workout. People go back and look at 276 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: the tape to see if there are things that match up. 277 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: Does he love football? Does he care enough? Is he 278 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: gonna get what this is all about? But you're saying 279 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: in terms of fall maybe from top two or three 280 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: to maybe potentially seven, eight or nine. 281 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: That would be the floor for me. 282 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: Yes, So you don't think neither one of you think 283 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a great value, an overrated value that 284 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: would fall to the Titans at eleven from a defensive perspective. No, 285 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: all right, so let's go to this question four. What's 286 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: the best case for a defensive player scenario for the 287 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: Titans at pick eleven? 288 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: Coach mac don't say Nolan Smith, oh wow, from Georgia 289 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: or I'm gonna do it, and you know, in honor 290 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: of Amy Wells, who's not here, who's on the way 291 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: to get multiple choices, a multiple choice, the other one 292 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: would be Devon Witherspoon corner from Illinois. 293 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: Now, let's talk about that for just a second before 294 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: red answers. A lot of people who are listening to 295 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,479 Speaker 1: the OTP right now, whether they be the people who subscribe, 296 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: rate and review the OTP, which we appreciate those known 297 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: as the ot people, or people who are just in 298 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: for draft week, sampling the OTP and ready to become 299 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: an ot person. 300 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: Why would you take a corner at eleven with all 301 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: of the other needs you wouldn't, Okay, But I'm just saying, 302 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: for the type of player that we're talking about, dropping 303 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: all the way to Devon Witherspoon is really a good player, sure, 304 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: even though he's an undersized corner. When you look at 305 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: his tape. He is really really sticky and in phase 306 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: reminds me a little bit. And there's another corner in 307 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: this draft that reminds me even more of a Titan 308 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: great Samari role. And so that's why I put his 309 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: name up there. It's interesting. 310 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: I wonder if they might go corner at eleven. 311 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: You don't think so, well, I didn't say that. I'm 312 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: just saying my hand and saying they can do anything 313 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: they want now. And this is why it open to speculation. 314 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 2: That's why I love doing this. And here's the other 315 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 2: thing that you know for the three of us is 316 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 2: connected as we are to the Tennessee Titans franchise. We 317 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 2: don't ask no, and we don't know because we're just talking. 318 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 2: We're just talking. That's right. 319 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: As I say, well, I think corners good value at eleven. 320 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people shudder at that, but 321 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: it's such a vital position anything on the outside in 322 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: this game today, whether it be receivers, corners, edge rushers, tackles, 323 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: even tight ends. Man, it's it's hard to find those guys. Okay, rhet, 324 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: what is the best case scenario for a defensive player 325 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: for the Titans at pick eleven. 326 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: Well, I don't see either of these happening, but and 327 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: we're playing scenarios here. My first answer was, Jalen Carter. 328 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 3: If he's there at eleven, you better take him, You 329 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 3: better take him. And then I don't think he gets 330 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 3: by Philly. I don't think so either. Yeah, but my lord, 331 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 3: if you had him with Jeffrey Simmons, Tierre Tartan, I mean, 332 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 3: just think of the possibilities there. 333 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: Well, especially with the cost containment you would have on 334 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: that player for four years, yes to a fifth, knowing 335 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: that you're paying jeff that would be potentially like adding 336 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: a big time free agent at a quarter of the cost. 337 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 3: Right, And then, in honor of Amy Wells, my other 338 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 3: answer would have been, and I don't think this is 339 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 3: going to be a thing, but the cornerback from Oregon, 340 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 3: Christian Gonzales, Because I mean, that's a top flight dude 341 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: right there. 342 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: Do the two top corners Witherspoon and Gonzales go in 343 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: the top ten rat both of them? Yes, Yes, Gonzales 344 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: is our top corner. 345 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: He's a nice player, transfer from Colorado to play at 346 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: Oregon and did a great job, great athlete. All right, 347 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: here's question five, Roger McCrary was an incredible draft bargain 348 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: for the Titans early in the second round last year. 349 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: Each of you give me two two prospects that could 350 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: be there for the Titans at number forty one that 351 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: would be the same type of outstanding value as McCrary. 352 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: All right, in honor of Amy Wells, I'll give you three. 353 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 2: DJ Turner, cornerback from Michigan and the four to two 354 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: seven didn't he? Yes he did. Jervon Dexter, defensive tackle 355 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: from Florida, or Keon White edge player from Georgia Tech. 356 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: He is interesting, Yes he is. 357 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: He is really interesting because he's d line size, but 358 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: he's can he can drop. 359 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 2: He can drop, he can drop, and he can move though. 360 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 2: I mean, just looking at our overall vertical and horizontal board, 361 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: those are three names that kind of stood out to me. 362 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 3: For me, it is the Bukus Award winner from twenty 363 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 3: twenty two who started eleven games as a true freshman 364 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: at Iowa's Jack Campbell, the linebacker six five two forty one, 365 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 3: had a six seven four three hone drill. His short 366 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 3: subtle four to two four almost eleven foot broad thirty 367 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: seven and a half inch vertical, you know, over three 368 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 3: hundred tackles, twelve and a half for loss. You know, 369 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 3: just a big time player there that could be there. 370 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: And then my second one would be a very long 371 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 3: cornerback that we saw starting at the Senior Bowl in 372 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 3: mobilist Julius Prince from Kansas State six three one ninety eight. 373 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 3: You know, had a wing of eighty two inches, one 374 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 3: hundred and eleven tackles in thirty four games, played six 375 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 3: and a half for lost, a force fumble, ten breakups, 376 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 3: and six picks in his career. Either of those would 377 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: be a fantastic value in the second round. 378 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: And I want to remind everybody listening to the OTP, 379 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: we are just talking defense today. Tomorrow we will talk offense. 380 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: Will do six questions with coach Mack and Rett Bryan 381 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: on offense. Reminding you to Titans fans, it's hard to 382 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: decide what's the best part of a dunk and run. 383 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: Is it coffee? Is it the one dollar classic donut 384 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: or the two stuffed bagel minis or the three dollars sausage, 385 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: egg and cheese that you can add to that coffee, 386 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 1: or the fact that you get to leave the office. 387 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: The answer of course, is yes, time for a dunk 388 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: and run right now. You can continue to listen to 389 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: the OTP on your phone as you make the run. 390 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: Great deals on food for one, two or three dollars 391 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: with a medium or larger coffee, reminding you America runs 392 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: on Duncan. Staying with defense, question six, we talked day three, 393 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: give me a defensive position group where you think the 394 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: Titans can find great value on Saturday, Ret Bryan, I will. 395 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 3: Go a couple of different directions here. First of all, 396 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 3: defensive tackle D line. There's a couple of guys who 397 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 3: I think could really be someone who could help in 398 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 3: that area. One of those is KeAndre Coburn from Texas, 399 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 3: who's a big run stopper. Another one is Zach Pickens, 400 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 3: the former running back who's a hoss for South Carolina. 401 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: I like both of those guys, and that is what 402 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 3: I think day three picks would be there. And then 403 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 3: I'm even going further towards the end of Day three 404 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 3: and may be even into undrafted free agent territory at 405 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,959 Speaker 3: linebacker Servasier Dennis from pitt That is a guy that 406 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 3: I've been interested in for a while. Four five six 407 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: in a forty had a forty one and a half 408 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 3: inch vertical leap, but it's pro days, six foot and 409 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: a half, two hundred and twenty six pounds, giant hands 410 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 3: to wrap up and tackle. And then another young man 411 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: who was a former Gator from Auburn, Alabama, transferred to Utah, 412 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 3: mahbud Diabate, who is six four two twenty five thirteen 413 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 3: and a half tackles for loss last year for the Utes. 414 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 3: Five quarterback sacks, ran a four to five to one 415 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 3: of the forty of thirty four inch vertical leap and 416 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: an eleven foot broad jump. 417 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 2: I like both of those guys. 418 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 3: In fact, I like all four of those guys that 419 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 3: could be value in day three and beyond. 420 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll take those four and give you six of them. 421 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 2: Oh and here's what we've got. I've got edge linebacker, 422 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: cornerback edge Byron Young from Tennessee. I think that's you know, 423 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: you think he falls that far? Well, I don't know, 424 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: but well, but you have. 425 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: So many WIGE players right top one. 426 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And Dylan Horton from TCU, same type of 427 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 2: the same type of guy to edge safety coming out 428 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: of high school, safety coming out of high school. But 429 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: can can move. We interviewed him at the Senior Bowl. 430 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: I mean you anyway, linebackers. I'm gonna go two linebackers here. 431 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: Dorian Williams from Tulane. Like Dorian Williams, cover guy can 432 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: play downhill. Two hundred and twenty five pounds. He plays 433 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: downhill though at two twenty five. He's not a jazz player. 434 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: He's not. He's and he's a cover guy. And then 435 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: a linebacker from Sack State that was a safety, Marte Mapu. 436 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: This guy's interesting too, with all the physical skills that 437 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: he has. So now I'm gonna go to the cornerbacks, 438 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: which have Again we said there were four corners in 439 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 2: the top one hundred. Kyu Blue Kelly from Stanford. We 440 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: watched him with the Senior Bowl too, very interesting. Maybe 441 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 2: not the greatest hips that you would want, but got length. 442 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: And then Jacry and Bennett from Maryland. Maryland's got a 443 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: track team there in their defensive secondary. This guy's a 444 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: member of it. Wow. 445 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 3: Those are some good things. Well, and some other corners too, 446 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 3: that's later in the day. Micah Baskerville from LSU. I 447 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 3: think that's a solid player there. Cam Mitchell from Northwestern 448 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 3: Miles Brooks from Louisiana Tech. These are all some names 449 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 3: that you should start to pay attention to, especially if 450 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 3: you're getting towards the tail end of Day three and 451 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 3: they assemble undrafted free agents. 452 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's wrap this up. From this standpoint. We've 453 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: talked defense. Six questions on defense, Tomorrow, six questions on offense. 454 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: It would appear as though, on paper, the Titans have 455 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: more needs on offense than defense heading into this draft. 456 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 2: They have six picks total. 457 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: In your eyes, it sounds as though you feel why 458 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: the third day, the second and the third day will 459 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: be times that the Titans can fill defensive needs and 460 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: get excellent quality. 461 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: And the examples that you brought up about what they 462 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: were able to find last year in the second in 463 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: the third round, that's going to be there for him 464 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: again and again. We all know, all of us have 465 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 2: been doing this a long time. We've got sophisticated listeners 466 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: the draft. The draft is a very inexact science, and 467 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: we're sitting here today and once we're on the clock 468 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: down there at sixth and in Peabody, you've got to 469 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 2: react to what everybody else does up ahead of you. 470 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: But I really believe that there's enough players at these positions, 471 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 2: and we've given some players that have characteristics that I think. 472 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 2: I don't know what the Titans are going to do, 473 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 2: but I think they would like some of these characteristics thoughts. 474 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: I think Max right in terms of it not being 475 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 3: an exact science. We know we've been talking a lot 476 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 3: about the human element of this, and it's why every 477 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 3: draft board in thirty two cities is different because of 478 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 3: an evaluation process, and there's guys that other teams like 479 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 3: better than others, regardless of need or position. It's you know, 480 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 3: beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder in 481 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 3: this and so that's why, you know, Max right, we 482 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 3: just kind of have to go with the flow. We 483 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: don't know what the Titans are going to do, just 484 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 3: like we don't know what the other thirty one are 485 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 3: going to do, but we'll be ready. 486 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: We will be at sixth and Peabody Thursday night for 487 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: Round one. Brad Hopkins and I will host the pre hour, 488 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: which is six to seven, and then coach mac Rhett 489 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: Brian and myself will be joined by Ramon Foster to 490 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: cover all thirty one picks of the first round for 491 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: coach Dave McGinnis for rhet Brian, I'm Mike Keith, thanking 492 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: you so much for listening to the OTP Day one 493 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: of Draft Peck. 494 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: Welcome to the big show where the Mortons called. Everybody 495 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: knows it's as thoughts