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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the US debt spiral alarming that I

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Speaker 1: want to get.

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Speaker 2: I just want to ask a question, do okay like

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Speaker 2: not saying that he's a great president, because I'm arguing

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Speaker 2: that he may be less evil than Trump. So when

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Speaker 2: Bush left office, that's GDP was at thirty five. In

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Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, it was at eighty one point

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Speaker 2: five percent. Some animals say the normalized rate for the

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Speaker 2: debt to GDP ratio in twenty thirty five will be

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Speaker 2: three hundred per Do you think spending will ever come

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Speaker 2: back down or what's the new norm that we should

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Speaker 2: be facing, Because if we're going to be very honest,

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Speaker 2: the power of the dollars went away dramatically. Just in

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Speaker 2: our lifetime, spending power has decreased. Do you think we

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Speaker 2: ever get back to a normal cycle or do you

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Speaker 2: think the spiral continues off ever? And let's just talk

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Speaker 2: like it's us at dinner, no audience.

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Speaker 1: It's never gonna stop. Never will it stop? That I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't want I know he was gonna say it,

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Speaker 1: so I didn't want to say it. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: have that's what we do.

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Speaker 2: It's scary and the rate of acceleration is is just

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Speaker 2: post COVID like, well.

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Speaker 3: I think Ray Dally will put a post up, but

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Speaker 3: he said the New World orders already happening. It's already

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Speaker 3: in and we can call this in detail in Blackout

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Speaker 3: as well. But yeah, I mean, you know, we have

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Speaker 3: massive debt, starting another war just so you don't have

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Speaker 3: to release Epstein files. That's gonna be billions of dollars.

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Speaker 3: The amount of money that's gonna be spent on the

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Speaker 3: Iran debacle. That's gonna be another debacle for no reason.

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Speaker 3: You're just finding ways to spend money. China, when's the

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Speaker 3: last time China invaded the country? Put in chat Yeah,

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Speaker 3: when's the last time China has been engaged in a

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Speaker 3: in a war mm hmm or full fledged military operation

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Speaker 3: outside of the borders of China or inside the borders

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Speaker 3: of China? When was the last time? Is that that

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Speaker 3: that's happened? Because they're focused on building their economy and

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Speaker 3: we're focused on just doing completely idiotic things for no reason,

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Speaker 3: Like the Iran thing, that's really for that's not even that's.

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Speaker 1: For no reason. They have no nuclear capability.

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Speaker 3: You already ruined that their nucle capabilities and the only

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Speaker 3: reason why they even had the nuclear capabilities to begin with,

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Speaker 3: is because you renigged on the deal that was already

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Speaker 3: in place for them to de escalate the nuclear capabilities.

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Speaker 3: So you this doesn't even make any any sense at all.

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Speaker 3: They have you literally we already we already took care

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Speaker 3: of the nuclear situation in Iran.

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Speaker 1: Why are you even doing this?

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Speaker 3: It's going to be so much money spent, even if

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Speaker 3: there's no military boots on the ground, just to send

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Speaker 3: the ships over there is like a half a billion

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Speaker 3: dollar operation.

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Speaker 1: Trips new technology and Powell, yeah, yeah, it makes it.

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Speaker 3: Literally there's literally no reason for us to even be

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Speaker 3: thinking about Iran right now.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a reasonable we can't tell what to you

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Speaker 2: five not on our goorth in and that we won't

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Speaker 2: in comparison, mm hmm, countries will load debt to GDP

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Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia twenty to twenty seven percent, Norway thirty percent,

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Speaker 2: Switzerland thirty to forty percent, Indonesia thirty nine percent to US.

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Speaker 2: Not just third world countries that have load dead to GDP.

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Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia and Switzerland has found a way to not

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Speaker 2: inflate their way and move their debt to GDP to

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Speaker 2: almost two hundred per sand, which is incredibly scary