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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hanson. It comes to you from
Speaker 1: a virtual room filled with some heroes. Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler.
Speaker 1: Oh heroes. It's a spectacular edition of the podcast. The
Speaker 1: flagship show Halloween Night and uh tricker treat, as they say,
Speaker 1: Greggy and it was a treat for a lot of
Speaker 1: teams that had unsung, unheralded backup quarterbacks in big spots. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you, uh were once coached by Adam Gate, you
Speaker 1: had quite a day. It was a fun It was
Speaker 1: a fun Sunday. I mean because of the surprising results.
Speaker 1: Uh and because we got to do it at home,
Speaker 1: and um that was that was nice get a little
Speaker 1: tricker treating in while after we watched some of the
Speaker 1: football is perfect. There is an immense um rager happening
Speaker 1: about four teen feet from my head out the window
Speaker 1: at my neighbor's house. I can't decipher what actions are
Speaker 1: taking place, but it's a very um festive Halloween night
Speaker 1: here in the neighborhood. I'm also glad that we did
Speaker 1: what we did because we all got a chance to
Speaker 1: take our kids out trick or treating a little bit
Speaker 1: um amid a wild Sunday night football game, if you
Speaker 1: want to use that word. But it only capped off
Speaker 1: not only for the Jets, but other teams a pretty
Speaker 1: dramatic we gate. Yeah, the Jets are one of those
Speaker 1: teams that had an unlikely performance from a backup when
Speaker 1: you say that there's something crazy going on next door.
Speaker 1: Because Halloween is itself, they're the parties and things of
Speaker 1: that nature. And yes, my Vincent Vega T shirt did
Speaker 1: come in time, and I had a good time last
Speaker 1: night at an adult Halloween party. But usually it's about
Speaker 1: the kids on Halloween proper. But you seem to hint
Speaker 1: before we jumped down that there might be something a
Speaker 1: little bit more zesty happening next door. Right now I
Speaker 1: can only you is um. You know the evidence provided
Speaker 1: audio wise to my ears, and there is UM station
Speaker 1: next door to my house. UM our rental house because
Speaker 1: we'll never own a house in California ever. UM A
Speaker 1: gigantic camper that's continually parked there. And you know, I
Speaker 1: am assuming that, like older sleepy relatives typically inhabit that vehicle.
Speaker 1: But what I've been hearing um would suggest other events
Speaker 1: UM not involving old sleepy. So when the air stream
Speaker 1: is a rocking, don't blank a blanket. That's that's well said.
Speaker 1: I think you've you've put it into No, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that's been continuous. There are other things too, but
Speaker 1: there was, you know, maybe that was part of it.
Speaker 1: Let's get grave digger in this car, send him over
Speaker 1: to your neighborhood and maybe he can get some like
Speaker 1: boots on the ground reporting on what's going on next
Speaker 1: to Settler's house. So we'll continue to track that situation.
Speaker 1: But yes, there were many a football game played on
Speaker 1: this Sunday, Halloween Sunday. Let's start a great scene down
Speaker 1: in New Orleans at the Superdome where the defending champions
Speaker 1: ran into a buzz saw. Time to pro that one
Speaker 1: has picked off, picked off with the right hand side
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be touchdown. Ne Orleans want a play
Speaker 1: pick six Peppy Halloween my costs with the call for
Speaker 1: w w L. I don't know if it was the
Speaker 1: fact that it was Halloween and you know, everybody's in
Speaker 1: a good mood and then a little you know, dressed
Speaker 1: up in costumes and maybe getting a little loose at
Speaker 1: the stadiums, but there were some great vibes at some
Speaker 1: of these stadiums today and the Superdome, that place was rocking.
Speaker 1: After P J. Williams intercepted, Tom Brady returned at forty
Speaker 1: yards for a touchdown with just to play, and that
Speaker 1: was the key play in the Saints thirty win over
Speaker 1: the Bucks. So a huge win for the Saints, who really,
Speaker 1: you know, that's what you call the old statement win,
Speaker 1: saying we are a true conference superpower who can beat anyone,
Speaker 1: including Tom Brady in a big spot. However, there was
Speaker 1: the bad news of Jameis Winston, who got pulled down
Speaker 1: on a horse collar type tackle in the first half
Speaker 1: of this game, suffered a left knee injury. Ian Rappaport
Speaker 1: reported after the game that it's an a c L
Speaker 1: injury UH and also potentially MCL damage And when Sean
Speaker 1: Payton spoke on UH the injury after the game, he
Speaker 1: had this to say, Yeah, I'm gonna get an update here.
Speaker 1: I think it's significant. Um he felt something, UM and
Speaker 1: he's on crutches right now. UM. I don't want to
Speaker 1: say until I have a chance to talk with the doctors,
Speaker 1: but UM, you know it was something when you know
Speaker 1: when he got up and then had to go back down,
Speaker 1: you know you were a little concerned. So as we
Speaker 1: tape this, Greg, you know, we're bracing for the news
Speaker 1: that I think a lot of we were expecting that
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston season ended tonight or today in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: So it is a bitter sweet moment for the Saints.
Speaker 1: The biggest win of the year but also the biggest
Speaker 1: loss of the season injury was Yeah, it is. And
Speaker 1: I don't think they were letting it get them down.
Speaker 1: I know that even Jamis wasn't letting get him down.
Speaker 1: You know, they did their club Saints thing in the
Speaker 1: locker room afterwards and mark Ingram's on the i G
Speaker 1: stories And it's the most Jamis thing ever that I
Speaker 1: will remember his Saints season as a starter for swinging
Speaker 1: his crutches around while he awkwardly dances on a tour
Speaker 1: in a c l after just a ridiculous victory which
Speaker 1: got kick started by like an unreal throw on his
Speaker 1: one touchdown of the day to tra Kwon Smith as
Speaker 1: he was getting hit. It like gave you that that
Speaker 1: window into maybe what could be um And it's just
Speaker 1: a reminder maybe that the Saints defense though maybe they
Speaker 1: are one of the only defenses that matter. And I
Speaker 1: was thinking even as this game, you know, the Bucks
Speaker 1: were gonna put when he's seven up, but they have
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's number. Like at this point, I feel like
Speaker 1: we can say that they are the one defense Dennis
Speaker 1: Allen that consistently scrambles up Tom Brady first team ever
Speaker 1: or maybe the second team ever since the Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: Broncos to beat him three straight times in the regular season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's uh, I thought. Jeff Duncan, they're one
Speaker 1: of their great beat writers, put out this amazing stat
Speaker 1: that Brady with the Buccaneers verse everyone else in the
Speaker 1: regular season throws an interception every eighty three point nine attempts,
Speaker 1: which is, you know, relatively very good. But in his
Speaker 1: in his three games in the regular season versus Saints,
Speaker 1: it's been one every sixteen point two and that you
Speaker 1: know it's they put it on him last season. They
Speaker 1: did it again. They have found a way to track
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and unseat him at times, and he looked uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: and it just goes back to me. I think that
Speaker 1: along with a defense that might really be a difference maker, Greg.
Speaker 1: I think that in Sean Payton, and this is not
Speaker 1: breaking news, but he is one of those coaches that
Speaker 1: not only you know the way the whole defense operates today,
Speaker 1: you know they had Trevor Simeon have to come into
Speaker 1: the game, and we've seen a lot of bad from
Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon and some good, and what the Saints did
Speaker 1: with him, I think that I thought that they didn't
Speaker 1: change their game plan. They threw aggressively. I feel like
Speaker 1: Sean Payton could get NFL editor David Eliot to go
Speaker 1: fifteen twenty one for a hundred and eighty four yards
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns if he needed to. He's just one
Speaker 1: of those coaches. And it completely changes the way that
Speaker 1: I feel about the Saints because it was the old
Speaker 1: completely changes. Well. No, here's the thing. I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: obviously like their their fortunes are dimmed big time, but
Speaker 1: I just have total respect for how they're run from
Speaker 1: top to bottom, from Sean Payton on down. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like they are totally resilient team. I thought they
Speaker 1: were gonna be a Hammond Egger this year and they've
Speaker 1: not been. Things changed without the quarterback well that that's
Speaker 1: the kind of that's why this is such a bittersweet
Speaker 1: game because I think could be wrong, because Sean Payton
Speaker 1: is a great coach and there's some really good players
Speaker 1: on that roster. Still, I think they're cooked. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, if you lose Drew Brees to retirement and
Speaker 1: then you bring in Jamis Winston and I think we
Speaker 1: all get kind of robbed, some of us more than
Speaker 1: others uh sneaky Saints fan Greg Rosenthal, all the real
Speaker 1: Saints fans. I mean, this was, but even just football fans,
Speaker 1: such a compelling story to track Jamis Winston in his
Speaker 1: redemption season, in this incredible once uh second opportunity to
Speaker 1: kind of put a stamp on his career. So if
Speaker 1: this is the end of his season and who knows
Speaker 1: where the Saints go once the offseason hits, uh man,
Speaker 1: that's really tough. I just don't. I mean, I've seen
Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon play before. We know basically what Trevor Simeon is.
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, he was pretty lucky in this game.
Speaker 1: He had a horrendous pick that was wiped away by
Speaker 1: a penalty, And I just think they're going to be
Speaker 1: very limited, uh with him. Now you have Taysom Hill
Speaker 1: obviously coming back from the concussion, maybe as soon as
Speaker 1: next week, and then you can get into that business
Speaker 1: if you can talk yourself into this offense being able
Speaker 1: to score points with Taysom Hill. I am uh definitely
Speaker 1: more on the side of a pessimistic on that. Uh.
Speaker 1: So that is like the bad side. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be the doomsayer here because they do will deserve
Speaker 1: a lot of credit because I think even the staunch
Speaker 1: of Saints fans thought this game was lost once Winston
Speaker 1: went out and once Brady got hot, and they wiped
Speaker 1: out that sixteen point second half devasit. Brady did throw
Speaker 1: four touchdowns, by the way, so he was doing things
Speaker 1: in this game. So to be able to step up
Speaker 1: on defense and do just enough on offense really nice
Speaker 1: moment for the Saints, even if it might in the
Speaker 1: big picture me and the end for them right might
Speaker 1: be the high point of their season. And you know
Speaker 1: there will be a lot of teams that won't have
Speaker 1: a point high point like this, a raucous Halloween where
Speaker 1: you beat the defending champs, who they who they really hate.
Speaker 1: I did think Gronk going out after five plays with
Speaker 1: another back injury was significant just for the long term
Speaker 1: um health of the of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, before we move on. UM, I just want
Speaker 1: to just the overall thing because Tom Brady is such
Speaker 1: a larger than life figure it is. It did cross
Speaker 1: my mind at one point that, um, the Saints fans
Speaker 1: just going nuts and enjoying beating Tom Brady. Like there's
Speaker 1: a whole other segment of sports fan or NFL fans
Speaker 1: that are getting this treatment now that he's in the
Speaker 1: NFC in a different division. Uh, just Brady, the tales
Speaker 1: of Brady. It's just, uh, you know, he makes things
Speaker 1: more fun when he's around. Tom Brady, win or lose. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, let us move on. So there you go.
Speaker 1: The Bucks go down the Saints with the w but
Speaker 1: they lose their quarterback. Let's head to another big division
Speaker 1: matchup this in the a f crand Bullock Sam said
Speaker 1: kick that was so good and tight with a treat
Speaker 1: at Lucas Oil Stadium. I've called nearly five these games
Speaker 1: and I've never seen one like this. Hey, Mike Keith
Speaker 1: Sell It paint a picture Mike Key w g f
Speaker 1: X with a guy I like the idea that we're
Speaker 1: gonna get a bunch of these Mark, a bunch of
Speaker 1: like Halloween references within each final call of big plays.
Speaker 1: Where two for two so far, how many more I'm
Speaker 1: gonna set it at four and a half. Do you
Speaker 1: think we'll get the over? On that? I think we'll
Speaker 1: get the over. I think that UM in general, to
Speaker 1: play by play man as a as an entity, cannot
Speaker 1: shy away from it on any level. I'm going I'm
Speaker 1: banging the over, just like Kevin Bayer lean into being
Speaker 1: a hero. He picked off Carson Wentz and cults territory
Speaker 1: and overtime, setting up Randy Bullock big bone Randy for
Speaker 1: a forty four yard field goal, wild ending to this
Speaker 1: one at Lucas Oil Stadium, and it ended with a
Speaker 1: thirty four thirty one win for the Titans over the Colts.
Speaker 1: And Um, you know, just like we talked about Greg
Speaker 1: leading into this game, this was a very dangerous game,
Speaker 1: uh for the Titans. Mark, hats off to you get
Speaker 1: the lock. But this kind of played out how I
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna play out. A desperate Colts team
Speaker 1: fighting every inch to to try to stay alive. I'bout
Speaker 1: to actually take your hat off when you say that
Speaker 1: you're wearing a hat right now, take it off when
Speaker 1: you talk about me dominate competition. You can't tell you
Speaker 1: what I'm suggesting it. It's not a colloquialism. Actually do
Speaker 1: what you say. I decline, but maybe at some point
Speaker 1: I'll take my hat off to you when you're not
Speaker 1: expecting it. How about that? There it is anyway, this
Speaker 1: is a game, Greg. They got off to a fourteen
Speaker 1: zip lead the Cults, and then the Titans did their
Speaker 1: Titans thing. They clawed back and find a way. This
Speaker 1: was a great game that this. You know, they gotta
Speaker 1: put this on the NFL network Prime time. Little set up,
Speaker 1: you gotta put it first up in your game pass.
Speaker 1: You look at the score and you think the defenses
Speaker 1: didn't play that well, but actually they both defenses held
Speaker 1: the up the opposition I think under five yards for
Speaker 1: play or five and a half yards for play. They
Speaker 1: both made a couple big turnovers. The overtime was essentially
Speaker 1: four straight defensive stops, uh, including the Titans setting up
Speaker 1: a long field goal to win it, which you know,
Speaker 1: big bone Randy just barely snuck it in there, and
Speaker 1: we could be questioning Mike Rabel, you know, getting very
Speaker 1: conservative at the end. But I don't blame him. It
Speaker 1: was two defenses that basically we're daring the other quarterback
Speaker 1: to beat them. They were daring Ryan Tannehill to beat him,
Speaker 1: and he started out with two ugly interceptions uh in
Speaker 1: the in the first half, but then played well in
Speaker 1: the second half, and the Titans defense dared Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: to beat him, and he beat the Colts. He this
Speaker 1: was the Carson Wentz game that you were afraid of. Um,
Speaker 1: not just the ugly interception at the end of the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter and then the ugly interception in overtime, but
Speaker 1: miss throws which led the lad the Titans back into
Speaker 1: the game, just inaccurate throws where where guys were open.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe how much guilt and wait Frank Wright
Speaker 1: put on himself, and that the writers that I've seen,
Speaker 1: uh put on Frank Reig for the play calling in
Speaker 1: this game. When I'm like his play callings, why they're
Speaker 1: in this game. Carson Wentz is missing these throws and uh,
Speaker 1: it was just kind of a nightmare game, and especially
Speaker 1: a finish for Wentz. I don't like that with Wentz.
Speaker 1: You know, the the interception that came on a terrible
Speaker 1: decision to unfurl the ball out of his own end
Speaker 1: zone was just it. It looked like someone that had,
Speaker 1: you know, just been introduced to the sport at the position.
Speaker 1: To me, I thought it was just a terrible move. Um.
Speaker 1: The thing that's stuck with me because you know, I
Speaker 1: was kind of watching this while this stuff was going on.
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill really wasn't a really rough spot early on,
Speaker 1: made a couple of big errors, and they were they
Speaker 1: could not kind of get find their groove. There is
Speaker 1: this element of toughness to Ryan Tannehill though, I mean
Speaker 1: his teammates were having He got hit a bunch of this.
Speaker 1: His teammages were pulling them up off the turf at
Speaker 1: one point, and he battled and he fought, and I
Speaker 1: there is just something about this Titans team that mistakes aside.
Speaker 1: They were more resilient. Um. I was wrong about the
Speaker 1: cults though they are not. I called them I think
Speaker 1: sleepy and boring on our NFL Network show. They were
Speaker 1: not today, but they are not the class of this division.
Speaker 1: They're why why their game? Their game? Out of the
Speaker 1: A F C. Walker they're done in the division. They're
Speaker 1: done in the division. There three and five wild card maybe,
Speaker 1: but there. Yeah, Tennessee is a three game lead through
Speaker 1: eight games and the tiebreaker courtesy of the sweep, So
Speaker 1: barring a major injury to one of the principal players
Speaker 1: of the Titans, they will coast to the a f
Speaker 1: C South title. That's how big this game was, and
Speaker 1: that's how that's that's how much it has to just
Speaker 1: kill Frank Reich And you know Carson Wentz who you know,
Speaker 1: maybe it was knowing how much the game meant that
Speaker 1: led to the two interceptions at the end that you
Speaker 1: know he's pressing a little bit. I think we have
Speaker 1: the the audio from the cover your fans, Cover your ears,
Speaker 1: Colts fans, but we wanted to hear the indie call
Speaker 1: of that left handed pick six deep in his own end,
Speaker 1: one of the worst passes you'll ever see, especially given
Speaker 1: the circumstances. Play action wins. He said, that's that's all away.
Speaker 1: There he does, let's picked off, then it's picked off
Speaker 1: by Elijah Malden and then if they touchdown, this game
Speaker 1: cannot end. Like, oh god, I'm sick to my stuff.
Speaker 1: This game has been too good for him to end
Speaker 1: like that. Absolutely one. Come on, guys, you've dis you've
Speaker 1: disappointed Matt Taylor and Rick Van Terry of w F
Speaker 1: and I and Greg too. Wentz is credit to the Cults.
Speaker 1: Credit they go down the field to get a big
Speaker 1: p I and scored a tie it. Maybe they should
Speaker 1: have a win for two there. Maybe they should have
Speaker 1: because yet they were getting so many calls in the
Speaker 1: second half of this game. This game had a lot
Speaker 1: of luck going in each direction. I mean, you didn't
Speaker 1: watch it and think like, oh, the Titans are a
Speaker 1: better team. They just sort of they made the play
Speaker 1: at you know, they basically didn't have Carson Wentz on
Speaker 1: their team, but it could not have been more. Even
Speaker 1: the Colts got so many lucky calls in this game.
Speaker 1: But the Titans also had this incredibly lucky sequence where
Speaker 1: Tae Kwon Lewis picked off Tannehill on the third down
Speaker 1: play and blows out his knee while running the ball
Speaker 1: back and fumbles the ball right back to Tennessee. At
Speaker 1: that point, I think it was fourteen nothing and then A. J.
Speaker 1: Brown had a long touchdown the very next play. It's
Speaker 1: similar to so when it was fourteen nothing. The Colts
Speaker 1: got aggressive and went for it on fourth down, and
Speaker 1: I really remember that sequence well, where Wentz missed a
Speaker 1: wide open Hilton streaking down the field for a touchdown
Speaker 1: that would have made it twenty one nothing. Then they
Speaker 1: go for it on fourth and everyone's killing Reich for
Speaker 1: going for It's like when smissed an open throw, and
Speaker 1: that's like, I don't kill him for being aggressive at all.
Speaker 1: They shut down Derrick Henry. He had sixty eight yards
Speaker 1: on twenty eight touches um. Jonathan Taylor had a hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty two yards and twenty touches. Uh, and you
Speaker 1: kinda if you're a Colts fans start wondering, like, uh,
Speaker 1: why don'd we throw the ball fifty one times and
Speaker 1: run at sixteen with Jonathan Taylor? Like they they That's
Speaker 1: what the Titans were asking for and that's what they got. Yes,
Speaker 1: five turnovers between the two teams, UM, a bunch of
Speaker 1: wild swings, two touchdowns, the final eighties, six seconds of regulation,
Speaker 1: twenty penalties. It wasn't a beauty, but it was a
Speaker 1: lot of fun to watch. Let's now move on to
Speaker 1: another big division game, this one uh in Cleveland with
Speaker 1: the Steelers looking for some revenge. Fourth and goal with
Speaker 1: the two. Here's the snap, he's back, he pops, he
Speaker 1: fires for the end zone and it's jug all through
Speaker 1: the back of the end zone. What do they call touchdown?
Speaker 1: Pitchburgh pet prayer, the pitch State rookie and the Steelers
Speaker 1: forge I had, Oh is that a sweet play? Bill
Speaker 1: hill Grove and Craig Wolfley with the call for w
Speaker 1: d V Ben Rothelisberger. He knows how to get it
Speaker 1: done against the Browns, who had the advantage of the
Speaker 1: Steelers losing their place kicker, which caused all sorts of
Speaker 1: issues for the Steelers and led to them do to
Speaker 1: do things like going for it in that instance, and
Speaker 1: it led to the pat fire mouth touchdown. The put
Speaker 1: the Steelers ahead. They stayed ahead, getting some stops on defense.
Speaker 1: Fifteen ten the final, uh, Steelers over Browns and Mark.
Speaker 1: Nothing's gonna wipe away the playoff glory of last January
Speaker 1: and that great win for Cleveland over Pittsburgh. But what
Speaker 1: happened here today is too familiar script over the past
Speaker 1: twenty years. I think it wipes it away. It wipes
Speaker 1: it away for me because like that was meant to
Speaker 1: be the start of something where there's continuity, and the
Speaker 1: Browns um proved today that they really you know, they
Speaker 1: kept talking about it as big brother, little brother, and
Speaker 1: it's a totally fair comparison. Um it's they are the
Speaker 1: little brother. And and like the credit goes to Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: because I think this began. Um it's a it was
Speaker 1: a culture win. Um Nick Shook mentioned that in his
Speaker 1: right up and I really agree with that. The Cleveland
Speaker 1: still figuring out their culture. But I think Mike Tomlin
Speaker 1: set the tone early this week with a furious press
Speaker 1: conference for he basically blew up any concept of him
Speaker 1: going to USC but all so talked about the Browns
Speaker 1: in this game in a way that I think set
Speaker 1: a tone for Pittsburgh. And you know, it's like everyone
Speaker 1: wanted to wonder ken Pittsburgh's offensive line do this so
Speaker 1: that their offensive line I thought helped them win this game.
Speaker 1: Cleveland made key mistakes, which if you go track Cleveland's games,
Speaker 1: they have they have issues with penalties, they have issues
Speaker 1: with key mistakes. That came from Jarvis Landry today with
Speaker 1: a terrible fumble caused by former Brown Joe scho Schobert
Speaker 1: uh oh b J who is just lost in this offense.
Speaker 1: Had one catch for six yards and you're you nailed
Speaker 1: it with Chris Bobs while going out early on a
Speaker 1: fake field goal past attempt that went totally awry, knocked
Speaker 1: out of the game. And I think Pittsburgh showed we
Speaker 1: can rally around anything that happens to us, not only
Speaker 1: in the microcosm of this game, but in the macro
Speaker 1: cosm of this season where they came in with weaknesses
Speaker 1: and you see them getting a little bit better each
Speaker 1: week and they they're figuring out how to win, and
Speaker 1: they were the better team today, no questions about it. Um.
Speaker 1: I think it leaves the Browns in a really rough spot.
Speaker 1: And I you know, look at UM, I understand that
Speaker 1: someone like Myles garrett A who has ten and a
Speaker 1: half sacks and leads the league in sacks, um likes
Speaker 1: to have fun with putting gravestones in his yard and
Speaker 1: walking into the stadium with a cape about every quarterback
Speaker 1: he's sacked. But that's not what it's about. Their formed
Speaker 1: four and they couldn't get it done. And you know
Speaker 1: this is not a Baker Mayfield lost the game type
Speaker 1: of game, but it was a total team melt where
Speaker 1: guys like Nick chubb Um didn't do what he normally does.
Speaker 1: They got away from who they were. They've done that
Speaker 1: in a couple of their losses, and I you know,
Speaker 1: talk if I had a hat on, I take my
Speaker 1: hat off to the Pittsburgh Steelers because I think they
Speaker 1: basically nullified and and largely erased what happened last January
Speaker 1: by telling Cleveland you're still not us man. I mean,
Speaker 1: I I still I know it hurts today and it's things,
Speaker 1: but it's take that playoff, win and run. I mean
Speaker 1: that that is a memory that you know that that's
Speaker 1: something that I know Mark saying. What Mark saying is
Speaker 1: that what happened in January was supposed to be the
Speaker 1: springboard to the start of a whole new era, not
Speaker 1: just for the Browns but in this rival reef so
Speaker 1: to be right back where we are now, that is annoying.
Speaker 1: It is it also like comes down sometimes too. You
Speaker 1: know it's more than one play, but the way that
Speaker 1: the Steelers offenses, if you know friar Muth made a
Speaker 1: unreal catch on that fourth down, you know the Browns
Speaker 1: might win that game if if friar Muth this this
Speaker 1: rookie made a couple of big catches like that in
Speaker 1: that first preseason game I remember, yeah, I think that
Speaker 1: was that the Hall of Fame game I don't even remember.
Speaker 1: And here he is showing up like hasn't been huge
Speaker 1: this year. But if he doesn't make that catch, I
Speaker 1: don't know if the Steelers go score another touchdown in
Speaker 1: this game. This was a defensive game. Did you have
Speaker 1: there was some There was some Mike Tomlins sound um marketing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's let's throw that on there. Let's see it. His mentality.
Speaker 1: He plays like we got no kicker anyway, He's Ohio
Speaker 1: boy man, he trying to win when he comes home. See,
Speaker 1: Like I would just say one thing, I really I
Speaker 1: like that. Common reason I wanted to play that was
Speaker 1: because he basically said, you know, he said, Big Ben
Speaker 1: plays like we don't have a kicker all the time,
Speaker 1: and this isn't the old Big Ben, but um, it
Speaker 1: felt like the old Brown Steelers games to me in
Speaker 1: many ways. And back in the past, before we did this,
Speaker 1: I would go after a game like this and watch
Speaker 1: like three movies back to back to back in like
Speaker 1: a discount movie theater, you know, and start to think
Speaker 1: that there are still great books to read. There are
Speaker 1: still things to do, there are still luscious people out
Speaker 1: on the street. But um, I had a four John
Speaker 1: and watched like a Washington football team game in the
Speaker 1: middle of this, I was in a hot, irritated mood
Speaker 1: in my garage. I don't want to feel this way again.
Speaker 1: They unplugged me. I'm not doing this again, nobody. Nobody's
Speaker 1: gonna have a camper next door. You see what's going on.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go right over there after this. Um, nobody's
Speaker 1: ever gonna feel sorry for us, because we're very lucky
Speaker 1: to do what we do for a living. But I
Speaker 1: will say this, like and Mark, you are just like me, uh,
Speaker 1: super passionate about our team, and it kind of sticks
Speaker 1: with you more than you know. You're a typical sports fan.
Speaker 1: Just put it that way. And when we have a
Speaker 1: particularly bad loss for our teams, like for me last
Speaker 1: week with the Patriots Jets game, with this game, when
Speaker 1: you have to stay locked in the NFL world for
Speaker 1: another nine hours and talk about it on a podcast
Speaker 1: that people listen to, that is that's the hardest. That
Speaker 1: is the hardest part of an otherwise amazing job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I like I tweeted something that I really felt,
Speaker 1: um in the middle of this nonsense, and also at
Speaker 1: one point I did predict correctly that Jim Nance and
Speaker 1: Tony Romo would be highly annoying. Um. Jim Nance had
Speaker 1: his little Halloween like, is this gonna be a trick
Speaker 1: or a treat for Pittsburgh on a play where they're
Speaker 1: going like forty five yards to the end zone. I mean,
Speaker 1: but I basically said, female assassin, don't walk run because
Speaker 1: this this basically again, I'm not getting involved with this
Speaker 1: team for a long time. I come out there. It
Speaker 1: doesn't imagine Mark doing a trick or treat and I
Speaker 1: with the kids just like, just take the amend joy,
Speaker 1: just take it right work. But I saw. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's true or if I miss reddicks that
Speaker 1: popped up real quick quick on my tweet deck, but
Speaker 1: I think the Browns are Owen six on robo Nance games.
Speaker 1: I told you like it is it is they are.
Speaker 1: It boils down to this. They try to shove the
Speaker 1: Browns into the big moment and outside of the playoff game,
Speaker 1: they are not ready for the big moment. You gotta
Speaker 1: go back and figure out who you are right now.
Speaker 1: You are floating. I think these two teams just quickly
Speaker 1: are similar though, Which is that the a f C
Speaker 1: is a morass right now? This is this like lower
Speaker 1: wild card group is just a big jumble, and they
Speaker 1: all got a shot and probably none of them are
Speaker 1: real super Bowl contenders. And they're both in that mix.
Speaker 1: You know, the Steelers are now in that mix. You
Speaker 1: can't say that they're morass. Is a great way to
Speaker 1: describe it. So great that an insane person like me
Speaker 1: thinks about my Jets team and I'm like, hey, if
Speaker 1: we could beat the Cults on Thursday, yea sloppy down
Speaker 1: to get some magic. Look that you see how quickly
Speaker 1: they wrote me back in. All right, Mark, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: that this game turned out the way it did, but
Speaker 1: hopefully brighter days ahead. Uh, let's toss to a break
Speaker 1: and then get to that. Jets classic takes the snap,
Speaker 1: drops back, looks like, looks laugh, fires in the crop.
Speaker 1: He's got it. That's a Jet touchdown. Tyler croft on alone.
Speaker 1: Mike White finds him for the go ahead scar with
Speaker 1: three unbelievable Oh yeah, Rick, you gave me the fong goes.
Speaker 1: I'm back, I'm back, I'm back, I'm back. I'm back,
Speaker 1: I'm back. I wish I could put you New York Jets.
Speaker 1: Bob was Shusan the call where w E p n
Speaker 1: he's a great played by blay guy. We don't get
Speaker 1: the heir a lot from him on the show Mike eight.
Speaker 1: Mike White threw for four hundred and five yards and
Speaker 1: three touchdowns and caught a two point conversion pass on
Speaker 1: a Philly special Marquis Uh the go ahead score and
Speaker 1: two point conversion and the Jets come back from two
Speaker 1: scores down late in the fourth quarter to to beat
Speaker 1: the Bengals thirty four to thirty one at the Meadowlands.
Speaker 1: Another building, it was going off. And I'll tell you
Speaker 1: why that building was going nuts. At MetLife Stadium today
Speaker 1: it has been and I was talking to Keith Hansas
Speaker 1: about this after the game that it was. It was
Speaker 1: the rare, such a special win, uh and memorable one
Speaker 1: that you got a call that it's not just it's
Speaker 1: not a text one, it's a call. And if you
Speaker 1: aside from the two thousand fifteen Ryan Fitzpatrick ten in
Speaker 1: six season that didn't even produce a playoff bid, that
Speaker 1: was the last time anything like remotely special happened um
Speaker 1: with the Jets, a game that was true memorable. I
Speaker 1: know there were little flickers of hope in the Sam
Speaker 1: Donald earra, but nothing truly memorable for anyone outside of
Speaker 1: Jets fans. This is a straight up, like great, like
Speaker 1: classic Jets win and it's been so long since it's happened.
Speaker 1: And the fact that it was Mike White, a guy
Speaker 1: that's just a complete unknown, a former fifth round pick
Speaker 1: out of a non big time school, bounced around, was
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, didn't make that team, lands with the Jets,
Speaker 1: and for him to just kind of be fearless in
Speaker 1: this game, uh, was really something special to watch. Mark.
Speaker 1: You grabbed this game in the draft because I was
Speaker 1: on a break, uh. And that break lasted as long
Speaker 1: as the first Jets strive when they scored their first
Speaker 1: touchdown of the season in the first quarter, and I said, okay,
Speaker 1: they look like they actually showed up to play a
Speaker 1: football game. And that's exactly how it played out and
Speaker 1: they gotta win as a result. Yeah. And I had this,
Speaker 1: you know, late in the fourth quarter at a text
Speaker 1: um the I was gonna send a Dan and said,
Speaker 1: why don't you know, I'm I covered this, and I'm
Speaker 1: happy to chime in, but this is a this is
Speaker 1: something greatst happening here. Do you want to maybe have
Speaker 1: your thoughts out there? Obviously? Um, And then I was like,
Speaker 1: wait when do I send this? Because I waited until
Speaker 1: it was completely over because it was such a bizarre game,
Speaker 1: But I I thought that it had a special feel
Speaker 1: to it early on. By the way, it's supposed to
Speaker 1: be fun watching your team, UM play a sport at
Speaker 1: least once in a while, and the Jets fans have
Speaker 1: made that real tough. But Mike White was kind of like,
Speaker 1: I don't care about the history of the Jets. I
Speaker 1: don't care that no one in Jets history has thrown
Speaker 1: for four hundred yards and three hundred and twenty seven
Speaker 1: games since Vinny Testaverdi did it before the Y two
Speaker 1: K scare. It's like, let's make this thing enjoyable for
Speaker 1: Jets fans. He starts eleven for eleven. At one point
Speaker 1: he hit another nine in a row. He went totally
Speaker 1: off and they pan over to Joe Flack on the sideline.
Speaker 1: It's like, why did you sign that guy? Mike White
Speaker 1: is gonna start on Thursday night number one? He should
Speaker 1: I'd like the idea that Mike lafle Or is up
Speaker 1: in the booth they kept. They kind of said that
Speaker 1: they thought that made a difference in this game, that
Speaker 1: he was just where an O C should be where
Speaker 1: you know, totally get it that when Zach Wilson, a
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, is there, he's down on the sideline with
Speaker 1: him and stuff. But it just seemed like the offense
Speaker 1: found a little bit of a comfort zone. I also
Speaker 1: thought real quick that and early goal line stuff by
Speaker 1: the Jets after a Jesse Bates interception where this thing
Speaker 1: could have gone totally off the rails, basically showed me
Speaker 1: that this Jets team is still playing really hard for
Speaker 1: Robert sala Um. The defense I thought showed some spice.
Speaker 1: They made plays down the stretch. Burrow had a killer
Speaker 1: interception late. By the way, that's his fifth fourth quarter
Speaker 1: pick this year. It leads the NFL. He's been awesome,
Speaker 1: but it has been an issue for him. And you know,
Speaker 1: the Bengals could have won this in a variety of
Speaker 1: ways to but the Jets refused to stop fighting. And
Speaker 1: look at they've beaten the Titans, they've beaten the Bengals.
Speaker 1: So when you talk about them is on the fringe
Speaker 1: of the playoff race. It's not because they knocked out
Speaker 1: to total Uh, you know, go most Ham and Eggers
Speaker 1: like they are not they are. Something about them can
Speaker 1: be a little spicy. You'd like it to have been
Speaker 1: with Zach Wilson. It was with Mike White. Take it.
Speaker 1: How about sala After the game, they asked him, you know,
Speaker 1: is what's going on with Mike White going forward? Does
Speaker 1: he have a chance here to to run with this?
Speaker 1: And of course this is not this is Zach Wilson's team,
Speaker 1: But Salad at least said, hey, you never know, well,
Speaker 1: you know he's gonna, of course play on Thursday. Anything
Speaker 1: can happen, Anything can happen. Could Mike White be the
Speaker 1: franchise copies like anything can happen? Yeah, I like that answer.
Speaker 1: If it's not gonna, you know, be the case. Most likely,
Speaker 1: maybe Mike White comes down to Earth Greg as soon
Speaker 1: as three days from now. But you can't take away
Speaker 1: in this game from him or the Jets of the fans.
Speaker 1: This is the most first downs they've had the Jets
Speaker 1: in a game since nineteen eighties six I saw, I mean,
Speaker 1: this was completely out of this world. And what does
Speaker 1: it say about Cincinnati, Greg, I mean it says um
Speaker 1: that Spice Rack had a beat on them, being like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose this game. I was like, what it
Speaker 1: was like? You mean cover? Its like now he's they're
Speaker 1: gonna They're gonna lose. I think they're gonna lose straight up.
Speaker 1: They can't handle like a situation like this that that's
Speaker 1: shocking to me. But it's shocking the way it happened
Speaker 1: that they give up over five yards thirty two first
Speaker 1: downs the Jets have. You know, they the Jets lost
Speaker 1: the turnover battle by two and they won the game,
Speaker 1: which is, you know, extremely rare in the NFL and
Speaker 1: usually only happens if you're like a vastly superior operation.
Speaker 1: It's wild. Flacco is so pissed right now. That's all
Speaker 1: I could think about it, because in his quotes on Friday,
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, I came here to play, And
Speaker 1: I was like, well, you should have come here on
Speaker 1: Wednesday then, or you know, right after you got traded,
Speaker 1: because you would have played I think this week if
Speaker 1: he had showed up. But they really, um got some
Speaker 1: good fortune to have Mike White play because we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't need to see Joe Flacco on Thursday night.
Speaker 1: That's for sure. We will not. And yeah, like I said,
Speaker 1: MetLife Stadium was jumping and they were chanting Mike White,
Speaker 1: Mike White, Mike I you know what, the football gods.
Speaker 1: I feel like a bone was thrown to me and
Speaker 1: many other of Jets fans. Don't give up, hope. Uh,
Speaker 1: you could still have fun watching your team. And I
Speaker 1: had a lot of fun watching the Jets bad Bengals,
Speaker 1: because it's one thing. I mean, any of the loss
Speaker 1: to the Jets is bad, but what do they have
Speaker 1: a ten point lead in the fourth quarter At some
Speaker 1: point they were in total control of this game, and
Speaker 1: they just they let it slip away. All right? Now,
Speaker 1: the team that destroyed the Jets last week, Uh, they
Speaker 1: were on the road here in Los Angeles and they
Speaker 1: continued to look like a playoff team. Shotgun snap to Herbert,
Speaker 1: is interesting that my Phillips prizes from the tower runts
Speaker 1: left side ten five pick six can sucking an acemption
Speaker 1: of the day. That's a touchdown for the Patriots. I
Speaker 1: like this. We're just rolling through all all our teams
Speaker 1: in our row. Um, Bob Sochy with Zolac grunting like
Speaker 1: a set essention gatorade bottle in the background. W b
Speaker 1: Z safety Adrian Phillips intercepted two passes against this former team,
Speaker 1: returned one of them for the go ahead touchdown. Is
Speaker 1: the Patriots rally to win over the Chargers? You know,
Speaker 1: I felt so good about the Jets that didn't even
Speaker 1: bother me that the Patriots ended my lock streak by
Speaker 1: beating up on the Chargers team that might not be
Speaker 1: actually that good anyway, Greg, It's become the go to cliche.
Speaker 1: That's fine. It's become the go to cliche of the
Speaker 1: post Brady Patriots whenever they have a nice win. Hey,
Speaker 1: that was a vintage Patriots style win for Belichick, but
Speaker 1: this kind of was. It was because, you know, they
Speaker 1: got contributions from all three phases. Their quarterback didn't play well,
Speaker 1: that's not too vince. I thought this was what Mono
Speaker 1: mac Jones is worst games. My My biggest takeaway was
Speaker 1: that they had seventy place for the Chargers before the
Speaker 1: Chargers went on a ten play kind of garbage time drive.
Speaker 1: I guess it's the defense they cooked up. Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: pretty good after a couple of early touchdowns by the Chargers.
Speaker 1: They had four three and outs forced and a four
Speaker 1: and out and two interceptions uh in their neck like
Speaker 1: seven out of the next eight drives. But it wasn't
Speaker 1: like a game I looked at where I felt that
Speaker 1: much different about the Patriots. The two interceptions that they
Speaker 1: had were both either drops or miscommunications by the Chargers.
Speaker 1: Kind of felt like a lucky bounce game relatively not
Speaker 1: to get like not to put too much damper on it,
Speaker 1: but just like they look like the same fine team
Speaker 1: that they've been greg Like, I asked you real quick
Speaker 1: because if you look at I think we all think
Speaker 1: that obviously Justin Herbert is like already a star and
Speaker 1: all those things. But last two games, he's completion percentage,
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, three picks. I mean, obviously it troubles against
Speaker 1: Baltimore today, you know, not a pristine effort. Like, does
Speaker 1: does it concern you at all that people are just
Speaker 1: getting more tape on him? Or is it just like
Speaker 1: not at all? Just keep rolling. He's gonna be no
Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit with how they're you know,
Speaker 1: defending him a lot of like changing the snaps post look,
Speaker 1: a lot of blitzing. Uh. The offensive line did not
Speaker 1: handle like the pressure that they sent. They got after
Speaker 1: Herbert pretty good. But like I said, the two interceptions,
Speaker 1: one was a drop by Ekeler and the other one
Speaker 1: was like the classic Jared Cook play of all Cook plays.
Speaker 1: Like you know, I have like a text thread of
Speaker 1: just like another friend who like finds it funny that
Speaker 1: Cook Cook just like always ruins the teams. He's on
Speaker 1: a couple of games the year, and like there was
Speaker 1: a game where he had a penalty where he took
Speaker 1: away the game winning touch done for the Chargers earlier,
Speaker 1: and this was one where he just didn't turn around
Speaker 1: and pretty sure it was on him and that was
Speaker 1: the pick six. Not not to take away what the
Speaker 1: Patriots did well in this game because mac Jones hit
Speaker 1: a couple of throws deep. He really struggled in the
Speaker 1: first half and got it together in the second half,
Speaker 1: which was nice to see because he was eight for
Speaker 1: twenty two at halftime in this game. And they ran
Speaker 1: the ball. They settled on an offensive line, like they
Speaker 1: are a physical team. They know what they want to
Speaker 1: be and there four and four and when they get
Speaker 1: the right game plan defensively, like they can make problems.
Speaker 1: They got Carolina next, Like, that's a chance to go
Speaker 1: to find four. We we talked about, you know, the
Speaker 1: idea of Belichick, um, you know, beginning to trust mac
Speaker 1: Jones more. You saw things earlier in the season and
Speaker 1: how they they gain planned and how they handled certain
Speaker 1: down and distant situations when it was very clear that
Speaker 1: he was a rookie quarterback that they had on a
Speaker 1: tight leash. And this game was interesting to me because
Speaker 1: I feel like they were throwing more than they should,
Speaker 1: especially early in the game, and Mac Jones just didn't
Speaker 1: have it. I think that's why I was kind of
Speaker 1: impressed by the Patriots to be able to go on
Speaker 1: the road, even though it's like forty thou Patriots fans
Speaker 1: at Sophie Stadium, including Ricky Hollywood, to get a kind
Speaker 1: of relatively bad game from your quarterback and still find
Speaker 1: a way to win. That's impressive to me. And I
Speaker 1: think in an a f C, I still think it's
Speaker 1: the Bill's division, Um, even though I don't think they're
Speaker 1: without any concerns right now either, but I think this
Speaker 1: they're gonna win that division. But I think the Patriots
Speaker 1: are absolutely a team that needs to be seriously viewed
Speaker 1: as a wild card contender. And on the Charger side
Speaker 1: of the things, you know, in in four their seven
Speaker 1: games they have twenty points, seventeen points, six points. They
Speaker 1: had twenty four in this game, but it's really seventeen.
Speaker 1: That was a garbage time kind of a miracle catch
Speaker 1: at the end. So it has been a little hot
Speaker 1: and cold at this offense. And of course they the
Speaker 1: game before this two games skid. They put up forty
Speaker 1: seven against the Browns and looked invincible. But there's some
Speaker 1: inconsistencies here that if you're a Charger's van, it's on
Speaker 1: your radar at this point. Uh, the offense specifically, it
Speaker 1: took Herbert making some great plays against pressure to get
Speaker 1: those touchdowns early to like there's not much in the
Speaker 1: flow of the offense. You're you're right it. I thought
Speaker 1: the Patriots would wind up blowing this because when it
Speaker 1: was fourteen thirteen or seventeen sixteen Chargers, it was like
Speaker 1: the Patriots felt like they should have been up by twenty.
Speaker 1: They had a first and goal at the two or
Speaker 1: at the four, and then um, you know, third and
Speaker 1: goal at the two. Couldn't get that and kept throwing
Speaker 1: the ball, like you mentioned, had another time inside the
Speaker 1: ten where they settled for a field goal and then
Speaker 1: fumbled the ball on the way into a potential other touchdown.
Speaker 1: It like felt like they should have been steamrolling, and
Speaker 1: yet the Chargers like could not muster anything. I am curious, Ricky,
Speaker 1: you you were at the game. You are, I don't
Speaker 1: see you here, But what was what was that experience
Speaker 1: like there? It sounded like a like a Patriots crowd.
Speaker 1: It was a Patriots crowd for sure. The stadium wasn't
Speaker 1: even sold out, and I mean, granted it's such a
Speaker 1: big stadium, but I have a feeling that if it
Speaker 1: was a Rams game, it would have been. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean everyone, first of all, everyone talks about how like
Speaker 1: amazing that stadium is, and you you don't realize it
Speaker 1: until you're in it, Like it is absolutely unreal with
Speaker 1: that that screen that they talked about. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: not a bad seat in the house. So I was
Speaker 1: just so blown away by even being in it um
Speaker 1: and it like a Pat's home game. I was super
Speaker 1: excited to see Justin Herbert and like you just sort
Speaker 1: of said, I was like, this kid is like the
Speaker 1: real deal, and it just kind of felt like they
Speaker 1: couldn't get it going, which was great for me. I
Speaker 1: had a ball the best day. He's missed a lot
Speaker 1: of throws lately, He's missed makable throw. Even though the
Speaker 1: two picks weren't on him. In this game, he did not.
Speaker 1: I don't think he played well in this game. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was nice of jet Um to
Speaker 1: keep calling mac Jones fat Jones and that he was
Speaker 1: blowing the Patriots game. And did she text you that?
Speaker 1: Because she was saying that you you were texted. You
Speaker 1: texted me that, but you were probably drunk at the time,
Speaker 1: you know, since yeah, I don't remember, Ricky, Like, what
Speaker 1: did you purchase at the concession stand? Was there any
Speaker 1: notable sort of sofie? Yeah? No, I just got bottled
Speaker 1: water Mark, Yeah, Um bottled water and this and it
Speaker 1: probably was like the glory days of when Ricky was
Speaker 1: a team age. You're watching the fourth quarter because, as
Speaker 1: someone who had a front row seat to this hocum
Speaker 1: for years, they get the big play on defense, the
Speaker 1: pick six to to go ahead, and then really they
Speaker 1: go on the four teen play, fifty four yard, seven
Speaker 1: minute field goal drive that ends the game, and they
Speaker 1: do over and over. Just oh, we're staying in bounds,
Speaker 1: were making the right decisions. That was That was that
Speaker 1: was the drive that made me feel good. That was
Speaker 1: like a lot of a lot of running a lot
Speaker 1: of Patriots. That was Yeah, that was very on brand.
Speaker 1: So anyway, if you're a Pats fan, you're feeling good.
Speaker 1: The glory days are gone. They're not coming back because
Speaker 1: Tom's not here. But you have a team. I think
Speaker 1: that's gonna be relevant in December. And if you're a
Speaker 1: Chargers fan, it's okay. I mean, I want to Jude
Speaker 1: on Jersey. I'm just putting that out there. You have
Speaker 1: a what Jude on Jersey? I'm gonna I might go
Speaker 1: bar more Man. I love me some Christian Barnment. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that he is the he is the best
Speaker 1: interior defensive player they have drafted since I don't know,
Speaker 1: at least a decade. I can't think of it. They
Speaker 1: haven't had anyone. He's he's good, he's ricky. I need
Speaker 1: you to go um like the full red sleeves underneath
Speaker 1: the judea on Jersey if you go down that road, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's now move on another uh, Division matchup
Speaker 1: in the NFC Panthers Falcon somebody how to win. We
Speaker 1: can go shopping after we go to Brooks Brothers, Mark
Speaker 1: will be fine. Wilmore and Jackson the corners. Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: in the shotgun with Davis to his left, asked for
Speaker 1: the snap. He's got it. Davis stays into block. Ryan
Speaker 1: hit over the medal. Gilmore at the fifteen yard line.
Speaker 1: Old friend up New England Patriots. Stephan Gilmore makes the
Speaker 1: big play the Panthers and that's mcmixon of w BT
Speaker 1: the Panthers. Panthers leaned on their defense to snap a
Speaker 1: nasty losing streaks. Jack Thompson was a star in his
Speaker 1: return to the lineup, and Steph Gilmore had the game
Speaker 1: ceiling interception in his Carolina debut in nineteen win over
Speaker 1: the Falcons. This was a I mean, I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: that I enjoyed this game. And this game was happening
Speaker 1: at the same time as the Jets were playing their
Speaker 1: first like fun game and about you know, thirty seven
Speaker 1: years uh So was I enthralled by what was going
Speaker 1: on in Atlanta? No, but I was tracking it. And
Speaker 1: I will give Carolina credit here for getting off the
Speaker 1: mat here and like I said, it's because there d
Speaker 1: because Sam Donald he goes out with a concussion in
Speaker 1: this game. But they're not really moving the ball uh
Speaker 1: much at all, at least through the air. Uh. They
Speaker 1: lean on their run ground that went over a run
Speaker 1: game that went over two hundred yards uh, led by
Speaker 1: Chuba Hubbard who overcame an early fumble and finished with
Speaker 1: eighty two yards and a touchdown. Donald had sixty six
Speaker 1: yards himself. But yes, it was the defense that shut
Speaker 1: down the Falcons. I mean, this is Matt Ryan's one
Speaker 1: of the worst games I've seen from Matt Ryan ever.
Speaker 1: A hundred and forty six yards passing. He was sacked
Speaker 1: three times, he got his hand stepped on. It was
Speaker 1: gushing blood at one point. Super gross and HALLOWEENI and
Speaker 1: the Falcons finished finished Mark with two d and thirteen
Speaker 1: yards of total offense. So Caroline is d steps up
Speaker 1: and gets it done. You know, I wonder like with
Speaker 1: Atlanta Limited, because you've got Calvin Ridley out and he
Speaker 1: you know, he's tweeted about the fact that he's dealing
Speaker 1: with um, you know, working on some mental health stuff's
Speaker 1: he's been unavailable and they don't know when he's gonna
Speaker 1: come back. That obviously helped UM put an extra guy
Speaker 1: on Kyle Pitts, like his torrid pace slowed down a
Speaker 1: little bit. And when you mentioned like Carolina is just
Speaker 1: gonna need to win with their defense, and you know,
Speaker 1: like Shack Thompson coming back just the way he's been playing.
Speaker 1: I look at some of their that you know, they
Speaker 1: were coming off a four game losing streak. They lost
Speaker 1: to the Eagles, UM, a pretty junkie team by three points.
Speaker 1: They got nipped by the Vikings at the end. I
Speaker 1: just wonder if their fortunes be a little it different
Speaker 1: if he had been available, because he wasn't in in
Speaker 1: those games. UM. But yeah, I think you are what
Speaker 1: you are with the with the pandas at this point
Speaker 1: because when before Donald left with was it a concussion?
Speaker 1: Like you know, he didn't have the ugly turnovers, but
Speaker 1: you're still getting the Donald experience. With the endless wide
Speaker 1: receiver drops, they're not helping him at all. Nine yards
Speaker 1: with four throws, they ran the ball forty seven times
Speaker 1: and through it, which I think rule basically said that
Speaker 1: it was a close game. You know it, rule said
Speaker 1: after the game, this is what I should have done
Speaker 1: last week, so you knew he's desperate to get away
Speaker 1: from Sam Donald and you know, uh so that's just
Speaker 1: where they are now since the Falcons. And if you
Speaker 1: have that defense, and if you have Zane Gonzalez hitting
Speaker 1: fifty yard bombs over and over, it was kind of
Speaker 1: a kicker game. Coo coo missed a short one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know, Christian McCaffrey I believe is eligible to
Speaker 1: come off uh the injured reserve next week. So if
Speaker 1: if he's back, you know, with Stephan Gilmore now on
Speaker 1: this defense, with Shaq Oompson back from the foot injury
Speaker 1: and playing well, you can again start to look at
Speaker 1: Caroline as a team that maybe has a run in
Speaker 1: them and and can go for a playoff spot. But
Speaker 1: that's where I stand on them. I don't they don't
Speaker 1: while me, they don't excite me. Uh and Donald keeps
Speaker 1: the ceiling on this thing. But hopefully he's okay and
Speaker 1: they get back on track here. Atlanta, I mean we
Speaker 1: I think you set it up Mark on our TV
Speaker 1: show on on Saturday that Atlanta was sexy now and
Speaker 1: all this stuff. I tell you, I didn't buy it.
Speaker 1: And I said, Arthur name Arthur Smith. I know, but
Speaker 1: you and about they were becoming fun to watch. It
Speaker 1: is all I'm asking for. Apparently not when they play
Speaker 1: the Panthers. I mean is not in there too, But
Speaker 1: I know, but they've been fine with that. Redley, he
Speaker 1: hasn't done anything all year, and I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: build a case Greg for you as well. But being
Speaker 1: the Falcons are one of those teams like, all right,
Speaker 1: if you don't have if you cook up a good
Speaker 1: game plan against Matt Ryan at this stage, it can
Speaker 1: get really ugly and things get slowed down and they
Speaker 1: become very hard to watch. So that's where we were again.
Speaker 1: With Atlanta was more like the beginning of the year.
Speaker 1: So I think I just froze up because the TV
Speaker 1: lights were on me. It was too big of a stage,
Speaker 1: and I started to say crazy things. Anyway, Carolina back
Speaker 1: on track. We'll see if Donald will be ready and
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey as well when they play again. All right,
Speaker 1: in other realms, let's head to Soldier Field, where the
Speaker 1: Niners are trying to get off a losing schneide. She
Speaker 1: ain soon she a first ate twice. Nothing is shin.
Speaker 1: Jerry Rapatos got a second touchdown of the game, touchdown
Speaker 1: said France, just go here. You gotta see, you know,
Speaker 1: break popping. Tim Ryan for k N b R has
Speaker 1: been a lot of fun watching the Niners for large
Speaker 1: swats of this season, so when they get hot like
Speaker 1: they did on Sunday at Soldier Field, you can enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo through for three two ran for two touchdowns
Speaker 1: the Niners beat Bears team missing their coach Met Naggy
Speaker 1: and other players including Khalil Macko. That ends the four
Speaker 1: game losing streak for the Niners, and San Francisco just
Speaker 1: got scorching hot on offense. This is what we've been
Speaker 1: waiting for. That was expected of San Francisco. I believe
Speaker 1: they scored um five straight times in the second half.
Speaker 1: Garoppolo led three touchdown drives in the second half, another
Speaker 1: possession ended with a field goal, and when he scored
Speaker 1: on that run um in the fourth quarter to put
Speaker 1: San Francisco head thirty two, he fired the ball up
Speaker 1: in the stands and you could tell a wight had
Speaker 1: been lifted. Often because everybody knew the pressure was really
Speaker 1: on at this point, and Kyle Shannahan even said as much.
Speaker 1: Mark after the game. Uh, Shannah had said coming back home,
Speaker 1: this is Garoppolo's from Illinois, his back against the wall. Uh.
Speaker 1: For him to step up and play the way he
Speaker 1: did today was huge. So with Tray Lance maybe waiting
Speaker 1: in the wings, Garoppolo definitely bought himself some more time
Speaker 1: in the starting lineup well and maybe limited um. The
Speaker 1: idea that a trade Lance package today like near in
Speaker 1: the red zone running um could become bigger and you know,
Speaker 1: it's something to just become a larger part of the
Speaker 1: offense until he just inevitably starts, and he will. But
Speaker 1: there's something still a little depressing about it because we
Speaker 1: already understand that Jimmy g is you know, he's fading,
Speaker 1: he's on the way out, and it's sort of it's
Speaker 1: it's nice to see him play well and they needed it.
Speaker 1: They needed this. Um. It's still just delays. But I
Speaker 1: mean see when you watch this game, you'll see there's
Speaker 1: it was huge because it wasn't like, you know, a mirrage.
Speaker 1: It felt like, okay, maybe this is because you remember Garoppolo.
Speaker 1: He's always been kind of hot and cold since that
Speaker 1: initial Roman San Francisco. But he could get in these
Speaker 1: grooves in the Shanahan era where he would look really
Speaker 1: good and be moving the offense. And it kind of
Speaker 1: reminded me a little bit of that. So let's see,
Speaker 1: maybe this is something they build on. Maybe he's healthier now,
Speaker 1: and you know, he wasn't playing in the rain last
Speaker 1: week with a bad calf. Maybe he gets on some
Speaker 1: type of run here. I thought it was extremely um
Speaker 1: big in a again a wide open playoff race. He's
Speaker 1: probably one bad start away from getting benched because Ian
Speaker 1: Ravaport gave him the kiss of death Sunday morning. Uh,
Speaker 1: news bomb. That's like Trey Lance's time maybe coming, which
Speaker 1: is like he's getting benched today if he struggles the
Speaker 1: first three quarters. Uh. You know he did get you know,
Speaker 1: an a d yard touchdown on like a swing pass
Speaker 1: the Deebo Samuel where Debo does all the work. Uh.
Speaker 1: And Samuel is now just putting together a season that's
Speaker 1: relatively under the radar, considering he has more yards in
Speaker 1: his first um what is it seven games than Jerry
Speaker 1: Rice ever had. Uh. And it's just at an outrageous
Speaker 1: pace right now. Like he he is a top three
Speaker 1: receiver in terms of production and just the beast if
Speaker 1: they can just get kittled back, then you know, the
Speaker 1: average over eight yards for play. I know Khalio Mac
Speaker 1: wasn't there, but that's impressive against any NFL defense, especially
Speaker 1: a decent one like the It does sound like it
Speaker 1: was Justin Field's um finest performance. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: doing kind of everything you'd want Justin Fields to do.
Speaker 1: You saw elements of it. Is that true? Yeah? There
Speaker 1: was a he ran for a hundred yards in this game.
Speaker 1: He had some nice plays as a passer as well.
Speaker 1: And of course everybody going nuts on Twitter because Matt Naggy,
Speaker 1: he's got the COVID. Uh, So he wasn't around to
Speaker 1: be involved with what was the best start of Justin
Speaker 1: fields pro career to this point. So you kind of
Speaker 1: damned if you do either way because this Yeah, he
Speaker 1: held on his win loss record exactly exactly. But there
Speaker 1: was a there was the first kind of eye opening Okay,
Speaker 1: here we are this could be something moment, uh, and
Speaker 1: it got them. It should have tied the game, but
Speaker 1: there was a missed extra point but it was a
Speaker 1: fourth and one and uh kind of a botched uh
Speaker 1: play execution initially, and then Fields with his athleticism was
Speaker 1: able to dodge some tacklers reverse field and not only
Speaker 1: convert the uh fourth down on a bus at play,
Speaker 1: but getting the end zone. And it was just like, WHOA, Okay,
Speaker 1: this guy, this is why he's special, why he's highly touted,
Speaker 1: why he was the first round pick. So hopefully there's
Speaker 1: something to build off there for the Bears, and hopefully
Speaker 1: Matt Nagy, wherever he was on Sunday, saw the things
Speaker 1: that worked and so it doesn't didn't work and maybe
Speaker 1: learn from it and it isn't too hard headed about things,
Speaker 1: although I think he's kind of a hard headed dude.
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens whenever. Naggy Now he's like Kingsbury.
Speaker 1: He was already working on the next pot. He's very competitive,
Speaker 1: I think. Any and we we've we had one little
Speaker 1: running I'm not gonna get into details where he seemed
Speaker 1: a little peeved Matt Nage that another head coach was
Speaker 1: in the room and just like that guy over there
Speaker 1: thinks he's so great. It's like, whoa, these guys are
Speaker 1: you know? There? Um, they're temperamental. But do you think
Speaker 1: that he actually was doing the Kingsbury thing or was
Speaker 1: he watching the game like I would just watch the game.
Speaker 1: But I think you revealed a little too much of
Speaker 1: that story. But I also we could keep it right
Speaker 1: there and let people, you know, put a pin in it.
Speaker 1: I've never I don't even that's that's just do that.
Speaker 1: It's up you know, Nagat Can. We'll see if he
Speaker 1: brings it up when he's you know, working at NFL Network.
Speaker 1: And that sounded means, oh my goodness. All right, let's
Speaker 1: head back to the a f C East where the
Speaker 1: Dolphins and Bills did battle. Alan Takes gonna throw it
Speaker 1: down the middle, caught my digs at the five cruisers
Speaker 1: into the end tone touchdown Buffalo. Stefon digs On nineteen
Speaker 1: yards strike from Josh Allen, touchdown. Bills having an annoying
Speaker 1: fantasy season and I got Stefon Diggs and he's driving
Speaker 1: me crazy good. He scored tonight at forty yards. Every game?
Speaker 1: What are we doing? He's supposed to have a hundred
Speaker 1: nineteen catches for fifteen hundred yards and thirty seven touchdowns
Speaker 1: for me, That's why I drafted him. He'll save it.
Speaker 1: I think it's coming. I think the explosions coming. John
Speaker 1: Murphy with the call w g R. Josh Allen lad
Speaker 1: the Bills on scoring drives in each of the Bill's
Speaker 1: final I believe five possessions a late flurry of scoring
Speaker 1: that was more than enough against the feckless Dolphins. Final
Speaker 1: score Bills twenty six, Fish eleven, Buffalo stays ahead and
Speaker 1: the AFC East. The Dolphins are on a seven game
Speaker 1: losing streak. All low now in the seller in the division.
Speaker 1: Greg Buffalo took a while to get going here, but
Speaker 1: they took care of business. I thought it showed maturity
Speaker 1: from Josh Allen. You know, he keeps checking these boxes
Speaker 1: as he gets older. He they had five first downs
Speaker 1: in their first five drives. They were dominated. I mean,
Speaker 1: Miami was handing it to them. H He was so frustrated.
Speaker 1: But after the first drive of the second half, because
Speaker 1: they just couldn't believe it. Miami should have had a lead.
Speaker 1: At that point it was still three three. Miami blew
Speaker 1: some chances, and then he kind of started taking what
Speaker 1: the defense would give him, whether it was his legs,
Speaker 1: making good decisions on third and long. Beasley Cole Beasley
Speaker 1: had a great week. He deleted his Twitter smart uh
Speaker 1: and then he converted a third and fourteen, third and thirteen,
Speaker 1: got the jab a third and eleven. I don't know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think he got the job. I think that's
Speaker 1: why the to this twitter he was sick about here.
Speaker 1: He goes over a hundred yards and it's like just
Speaker 1: every big play when you thought Miami could get a stop,
Speaker 1: they just don't have a pass rush. Uh without blitzeeing
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips, their first round pick hasn't done much and
Speaker 1: then when they do blitz Alan was figuring it out
Speaker 1: in the second half, and I just thought it, you know,
Speaker 1: as bad as it was for the first five drives
Speaker 1: or so, for him to kind of solve it and
Speaker 1: then go touchdown, touchdown field, go touchdown to end, it's
Speaker 1: pretty awesome. I view um greg and Cole Beasley as
Speaker 1: sort of ideological twins, so you know, I thought that
Speaker 1: it's a nice day for him. Is similar body types,
Speaker 1: no doubt. That's all I'm offering. No, that's all I'm offering.
Speaker 1: I mean, I like I I you know what, the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: I'm a little I'm there there are another team that
Speaker 1: depresses me right now, and the Bills, like you know,
Speaker 1: have thumped this Dolphins team. So hard that people were like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: is it gonna be. It's not a good, great game
Speaker 1: because it's not thirty five to nothing. It's like, I
Speaker 1: I respect Buffalo working themselves out of the fix they
Speaker 1: were in earlier they were they were and it felt different.
Speaker 1: It felt like a game. Even in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: you didn't know how it go and but Buffalo came
Speaker 1: through and we get you know, we're gonna get to
Speaker 1: the Texans a little bit later. But since the Dolphins
Speaker 1: are connected directly to everything Deshaun Watson related, the report
Speaker 1: came out on Sunday morning that now the belief is
Speaker 1: that Deshaun Watson won't be changing teams ahead of the
Speaker 1: trade deadline on Tuesday. So just file that away with
Speaker 1: two uh who will get most likely what he absolutely
Speaker 1: deserves and what the Dolphins should want, which is a
Speaker 1: full season audition and they're going nowhere there, one and
Speaker 1: seven now, So at least turned this season now over
Speaker 1: to a full developmental look at your young quarterback so
Speaker 1: you could decide what you want to do next, even
Speaker 1: if that means bringing in a highly problematic pass are
Speaker 1: currently wasting away in Houston. Um, all right, Buffalo in
Speaker 1: control of the division in the Pats getting better though,
Speaker 1: So a little heat there. Uh, let's take a break
Speaker 1: and then hit the rest of the games. Hurts gives
Speaker 1: Buster Scott pushing hut Buster Scott, Buster Scott. It's so powerful,
Speaker 1: all right. Merril reads with the call, Nikki Shook joining
Speaker 1: us now. Technical difficulties took the man out, but the
Speaker 1: pipe always finds a way to bash his way back.
Speaker 1: In Boston, Scott and Jordan Howard each scored two touchdowns
Speaker 1: on the ground in place of Miles Sanders. Uh and
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles dominated the Lions in a forty four
Speaker 1: to six win on Sunday. Schookie, we talked about it
Speaker 1: on the around the NFL broadcast the Boys and I,
Speaker 1: uh have it was a little weird. Everyone was getting
Speaker 1: excited about this is the game, the Lions are gonna win.
Speaker 1: They did not even compete. What happened here? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: actually picked the Lions to win. That was a big
Speaker 1: failure on my part. Wasn't alone. I was not alone
Speaker 1: in that regard. Uh, they didn't really show up. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, we've looked at this roster all year and
Speaker 1: seeing that, you know, it's pretty talent poor. They lack weapons. Offensively,
Speaker 1: they they lack a lot of you know, blue chip
Speaker 1: level players across the roster, and it totally showed today.
Speaker 1: I mean, not only did they not show up, they
Speaker 1: had nothing in the tank to really mount much of
Speaker 1: a comeback effort. I mean, before you know, a halftime
Speaker 1: at seventeen nothing and it felt like it was thirty
Speaker 1: five nothing. The Eagles dominated up front. They won the
Speaker 1: battle of the trenches. A week after letting Kenyan Drake
Speaker 1: uh run down their throats for a touchdown against the
Speaker 1: Raiders and and kind of being the Lions in that
Speaker 1: game and getting you know, falling way behind and never
Speaker 1: having a chance of coming back. Uh. They then became
Speaker 1: the team that was the aggressor and just dominated at
Speaker 1: the point of attack on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1: They sacked Yared GoF five times to get to the
Speaker 1: point in the third quarter. I was like, man, if
Speaker 1: there was an opportunity to to simulate to the end
Speaker 1: or to forfeit the remainder of this game, this is
Speaker 1: the game for this to happen. Let's get a running
Speaker 1: clock or something going. It was that lopsided. It was
Speaker 1: the worst showing of the Lions mat that Mark to
Speaker 1: the competition committee. Years we've had we won't we have
Speaker 1: games for just like a ten minute runoff at the
Speaker 1: end when they're just this this unfun to watch now
Speaker 1: and again you couch it Chookie as player safety, that's
Speaker 1: what it's really about. But what it's really about is
Speaker 1: jabronies like us being able to move on to the
Speaker 1: next game. Yeah, exactly pretty much. I mean, in a nutshell,
Speaker 1: it was. It was an unexciting affair. It was inspiring
Speaker 1: for the Eagles because they didn't have Miles Sanders and
Speaker 1: they ran the ball really well, um and he didn't
Speaker 1: need too much from Jalen Hurts and he's fun to
Speaker 1: watch no matter what. So, uh, you know, a nice
Speaker 1: little bounce back win for them, and I think a
Speaker 1: low point for these lines. I mean, the Lions have
Speaker 1: been competitive in the majority of the games they've played.
Speaker 1: Today was not one of them. That's simple. And it's
Speaker 1: like a week ago they were, you know, tortured by
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. Darius Slay had a what a humble touchdown
Speaker 1: in this um. There was a bit of a narrative
Speaker 1: killer for the Eagles after you know, we we were
Speaker 1: gonna run the ball less than any team in NFL history.
Speaker 1: They had like two hundred and thirty six yards and
Speaker 1: it was a narrative killer. Uh for the listeners who
Speaker 1: locked the Lions, Let's get your act together on on
Speaker 1: these fronts. Let's think about what we're doing this. That's
Speaker 1: a collective group. There wasn't one single drunk person making
Speaker 1: a terrible, just you know, life decision. There's a group
Speaker 1: of people that agreed on the Lions. Please. I think
Speaker 1: we got sucked into and I didn't pick the lines,
Speaker 1: but I see why it happened, because we got sucked
Speaker 1: into how hard this team is playing and how they
Speaker 1: seem to be, you know, playing their hearts out. And
Speaker 1: the Eagles just seemed like a team that was ripe
Speaker 1: to be picked off. But that's just not what happened.
Speaker 1: Chok No, it's it's the exact opposite of what happened.
Speaker 1: And I was in the same train of thought, and
Speaker 1: I definitely wasn't drunk. Mark when I sent my in
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday afternoon, give give Fletcher Cox like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, a little love here, because you know, he
Speaker 1: basically went after the defensive coordinator Jonathan in and for
Speaker 1: like not being aggressive, not mixing things up, not blitzing,
Speaker 1: and you know, accordingy of the Philly reporters, they did
Speaker 1: all of that. So maybe, like maybe, maybe sometimes it
Speaker 1: takes like a player leader just be like, let's go,
Speaker 1: let's go, especially a player who's kind of playing out
Speaker 1: a position in this defensive coordinators scheme. I mean, statistically,
Speaker 1: it's not like he blew things up, but as a group, yeah,
Speaker 1: they do. They're gonna they're gonna mess up the score
Speaker 1: differential thing in the in d v o A with
Speaker 1: these blowouts because they've now outscored their opponents this year
Speaker 1: because of week one in this you know by Laden,
Speaker 1: So you're you're pointing out though some people are slavish
Speaker 1: in their love of uh d v o A, that
Speaker 1: that it could be maipulated by scores that are well
Speaker 1: they love I love it, loves a big big blowouts.
Speaker 1: You know there was unsounded, unscientific. Well you gotta go,
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta go. E p A two, you
Speaker 1: gotta mix it exposed. Last word on this a f
Speaker 1: I'd have last run in this game. Let's just move
Speaker 1: to the next week for the Lions because it was bad. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Detroit safety Tracy Walker said, if this doesn't get better.
Speaker 1: We're going to be oh and seventeen ys. All right,
Speaker 1: let's head to sea at all shotgun formation, play, fake looks,
Speaker 1: far aside, throws, puts the ball up, reaching up making
Speaker 1: a catch, DK met Jeff touchdown, Shawks, Hey, Hey, Steve
Speaker 1: Rabel k I r O, Gino Smith ran for one
Speaker 1: score through four a parent touchdown passes the DK metcalf
Speaker 1: and the Seahawks beat up on the jack You are
Speaker 1: thirty one to seven ending they're losing streak, big win
Speaker 1: and shook for Seattle. It doesn't matter the opponent. They
Speaker 1: needed a w and Gino got it done. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: winds all count the same. I think they looked out
Speaker 1: getting Jacksonville the week after their most recent loss to
Speaker 1: the Saints in prime time. But I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: if if you wanna choose a non lock situation to
Speaker 1: play the prices right losing horn that we're so fond
Speaker 1: of on this show, play it for me and my
Speaker 1: game assignments this week, because this one was about as
Speaker 1: ugly there. It was as about as ugly as that
Speaker 1: that Eagles Lions. I'm sitting back watching this going, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just getting all the blow us that was one blowout. Shy,
Speaker 1: I'm just hitting the trifecta. But um, I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: from from a Seahawks perspective, you're you're happy to see
Speaker 1: urban Meyer lead his team out of the tunnel, knowing
Speaker 1: that this is another talent, poor roster that all you
Speaker 1: gotta do is not screw up too much and you
Speaker 1: and hopefully Gino plays well enough for you to win
Speaker 1: a game. Man, it's not like they they dominated on
Speaker 1: the ground. They didn't. They rushed for uh sixty nine
Speaker 1: yards total. But Gino Smith did what pretty much anybody
Speaker 1: with a brain would do in that situation. Throw the
Speaker 1: ball two dk metcalf when you're inside the opponent's thirty
Speaker 1: yard line. He had two touchdown catches. One was a
Speaker 1: great catch right in front of the inside pilot on
Speaker 1: the other one just inside the pilot on the opposite
Speaker 1: side of the end zone. And they did their job.
Speaker 1: And and the Jacksonville Jaguars often can't get out of
Speaker 1: their own way save for that came in London. I mean,
Speaker 1: they committed twelve penalties today. They had three turnovers on
Speaker 1: downs uh when they reached Seattle territory. And the funniest
Speaker 1: thing about it is the Seahawks got short olds a lot.
Speaker 1: As a result of that, their touchdown drives started inside
Speaker 1: their own thirty. So, you know, the challenge wasn't as
Speaker 1: great this week. And I know it's any given Sunday
Speaker 1: in this league, and we all know these are the
Speaker 1: best fourteen hundred football players on the planet, but there
Speaker 1: was quite a talent discrepancy today. Yeah, but everyone was
Speaker 1: ready to just like slam if if it flipped the
Speaker 1: other way that, you know, blew it. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: kind of under selling it here. He's thirteen out of
Speaker 1: his first thirteen for a couple of touchdowns in a
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty three yards. And I couldn't help but
Speaker 1: notice DK metcalf with a little bit of a sub
Speaker 1: tweet of his starting quarterback after the game saying, you know,
Speaker 1: I haven't you know, talking about the jump ball touchdown
Speaker 1: that he got, saying like, I haven't really gotten a
Speaker 1: ball like that since I've gotten here. You know that
Speaker 1: that takes trust from my quarterback, and I like, I
Speaker 1: like seeing that. I was like, that's the thing is great.
Speaker 1: I couldn't get into Gino because this is your thing.
Speaker 1: You know, we gotta we gotta leave some up for
Speaker 1: you and Alley you there right, I'm just looking for
Speaker 1: you because you know I haven't closely yet, but I'm
Speaker 1: looking for you to like accurately analyze, you know, what's
Speaker 1: happening on the football field as Gino Smith just cast
Speaker 1: a check in the NFL. With this performance that's happening,
Speaker 1: He's gonna make it. He's gonna make it one more
Speaker 1: year at least. Now he's gonna spend every one of
Speaker 1: those dollars proudly. And you know what else is gonna
Speaker 1: be happy after this one? Tyler Lockett, who has not
Speaker 1: really been involved in their offense in recent weeks. He
Speaker 1: had twelve catches for a hundred forty two yards. He
Speaker 1: probably ended up on a few fantasy benches this week,
Speaker 1: and myself included are probably like I should have played him.
Speaker 1: This is the one week but they actually did something
Speaker 1: with him. But you know, it all spends the same.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see Urban Meyer purchase a book on
Speaker 1: Amazon called Here's what you actually are supposed to do
Speaker 1: during a bye week? I mean they, I mean, how
Speaker 1: do you come out this stale and this putrid after
Speaker 1: you've had a chance to go tinker with your offensive?
Speaker 1: And put Trevor Lawrence. Yes, well, Dan, you were high
Speaker 1: on Trevor Lawrence coming into this game that I was
Speaker 1: asked to come up with a thought or type of
Speaker 1: hot take for the taking show that I didn't believe in.
Speaker 1: Um My take is that Urban Meyer is not good
Speaker 1: at this and uh, that's why things didn't work out.
Speaker 1: I mean, Dan Arnold is your leading receiver. I mean,
Speaker 1: and as I watched it, I was like, man, I
Speaker 1: don't even know how to really analyze Trevor Lawrence because
Speaker 1: I just don't really believe what he's working with and
Speaker 1: we don't believe in that. I mean, I like Marvin Jones,
Speaker 1: but I mean, they're they're still lacking a lot. And
Speaker 1: Trevor was very up and down. There were times where
Speaker 1: he misses open throws, guys right in front of him,
Speaker 1: He's putting it in the dirt. Um. I think he's
Speaker 1: he's in a bit of a Tim Couch situation right now,
Speaker 1: where he's just he's on a team that that lacks,
Speaker 1: you know, talented players and and this is what it's
Speaker 1: gonna look like. For a while, it was a it
Speaker 1: was a Pete Carroll and Seahawks fans revenge game against
Speaker 1: the Darryl Bevil and Brian Schottenheimer like the ghosts of
Speaker 1: annoying offensive coordinators passed on the opposite sideline. And of
Speaker 1: speaking of d v o A after this game, Seahawks folks,
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly who it was. Somebody from the
Speaker 1: Seahawks was like, hey, see the d v A numbers
Speaker 1: were pretty good. I think it's Pete Carroll. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was better than our record shows. Just look at
Speaker 1: d v o A. Carroll said, yeah, he did. It
Speaker 1: was kind of shocked by that. Yeah. Um, and Greg,
Speaker 1: you're right because Gino failed miserably the first three weeks
Speaker 1: where he's going in. He literally covered the spread three straight.
Speaker 1: He played two great defenses the first if but he
Speaker 1: needed you could be a rich man, but I know
Speaker 1: his job is not to cover the spread, Greg, you do.
Speaker 1: It's like he from a different angle. He's supposed to
Speaker 1: do a little. Don't let him get you. Mark Seattle
Speaker 1: hits the buy now and then Dangerous probably is going
Speaker 1: to be back. But we don't know. But probably will,
Speaker 1: I mean unless they decided to go with Gino because
Speaker 1: he's you know, according to spouting reports, he's the timing
Speaker 1: couldn't be better. Let's get to the vio Let's get
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson back in there. Have this be the last
Speaker 1: exactly the Gina had one more chance to make sure
Speaker 1: he was going to stay in the NFL. He did it.
Speaker 1: So let's let's put the cap on another season of
Speaker 1: everyone's favorite show. And that was another edition of Sipping
Speaker 1: on Veno. Checking. That means Frags and Her Drop is
Speaker 1: gonna be back in two as well, and I'm not
Speaker 1: mad about that, Nick Schuok, thank you. Not only did
Speaker 1: you get two dog games, the tapings different right now
Speaker 1: because the Halloween night and it's one am where you're
Speaker 1: at and we know we love you, man, We will
Speaker 1: make it up to you somehow. I promise you that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wanted to give you a little bit of inside
Speaker 1: baseball here. People watching this, uh, we'll notice that I
Speaker 1: don't have the typical backdrop because it was midnight and
Speaker 1: and honestly I wasn't gonna do everything necessary to set
Speaker 1: the table up to get behind that pretty background when
Speaker 1: this will suffice for right now. But I will say this, Greg,
Speaker 1: once you retire from football and everything, I don't know
Speaker 1: when that's gonna be retire from football. Are you trying
Speaker 1: to retire? Yeah, you'll still have more hair than me.
Speaker 1: But you also have a great job opportunity in front
Speaker 1: of you, and that is Geno Smith is gonna run
Speaker 1: for office and you will be his campaign manager. And
Speaker 1: it will be like that retirement job that you're doing
Speaker 1: just because you're bored. Oh, I like that high paid
Speaker 1: consultants job. Yeah, I can just imagine Gino you know,
Speaker 1: you know, kissing babies and pressing flesh. Yes, there's one
Speaker 1: thing I think about Gino. It's like he's a people person.
Speaker 1: He knows how to connect babies the people around him. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, there you go, Nick Chuck, thank you buddy,
Speaker 1: have a good night, good slumber. There he goes. All right,
Speaker 1: we have two more games. Let's let's hit him quick
Speaker 1: and say good night. Denver rushes four again. Pinokey steps
Speaker 1: on the pocket, loads it up, home run ball. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be out of the back of the end zone.
Speaker 1: Incomplete riff. No time left. Let me make sure it
Speaker 1: is over in Happy Halloween. That's three. I think we
Speaker 1: set it at four and a half off mark. So
Speaker 1: we've got a problem here. Justin Simmons and the Broncos
Speaker 1: held after a fumble game Washington the ball back with
Speaker 1: a chance to tie the game. The Broncos also blocked
Speaker 1: two field goals. What a set up. You know the
Speaker 1: game's bad when this is the set up for the
Speaker 1: game win. They stopped before games losing streak. I feel
Speaker 1: like four teams stopped a four game losing streak today. Anyway, Mark,
Speaker 1: tell me something about this game that's interesting. I would
Speaker 1: point to the reason that they were saying, like, let's
Speaker 1: check if this game is really over, because it should
Speaker 1: have been over, um a minute or so earlier. And
Speaker 1: I actually, you know, we we in our in our
Speaker 1: channel where we can communicate with each other. I'm not
Speaker 1: allowed to say the actual company's name, I think, but uh,
Speaker 1: we will send the play that we want to use
Speaker 1: for the call. And I was gonna be the Justin
Speaker 1: Simmons interception that ended this thing, but then you know,
Speaker 1: the this drove me nuts the Broncos and this was
Speaker 1: such a Vic Fongio type of scenario where he was
Speaker 1: going he was very annoyed. But they basically just had
Speaker 1: to get just get a first down or run the
Speaker 1: clock out. And instead Melvin Gordon fumbles the ball like
Speaker 1: within less inside a minute, and this came after Javonta
Speaker 1: Williams fumbled a few plays earlier, recovered it. Then Teddy
Speaker 1: Bridgewater through a terrible wayward pass on second down that
Speaker 1: didn't take any time off the clock. They've almost gave
Speaker 1: the game away. Point being I go watch that just
Speaker 1: to see how mismanaged that was. But other than that,
Speaker 1: I would say this about the broncos Um, it was
Speaker 1: an inspired defensive effort for the most part with no
Speaker 1: Von Miller in there. Guys like Shelby Harris So I
Speaker 1: think had both blocks on those field goals played out
Speaker 1: of his mind, and you got from Teddy Bridgewater outside
Speaker 1: of you know, that one little last minute which really
Speaker 1: wasn't his fault. Um, it really solid kind of Teddy
Speaker 1: Bridgewater game that you thought you'd get. And Washington, Um,
Speaker 1: the red zone woes hurt them early on. You know,
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera said after the game, we're basically a team
Speaker 1: in search of ourselves still, and they are and they're
Speaker 1: just not there. And the idea that they were gonna,
Speaker 1: like other teams, pick up from where they were a
Speaker 1: year ago. No, Um, this maybe gives you a little
Speaker 1: bit hope for Denver because if they if they can
Speaker 1: get this from Teddy and they can get this from
Speaker 1: the defense, arrow up. But I think you just played
Speaker 1: another average team. This game felt six and a half
Speaker 1: hours long to me. I mean, yeah, can you can't
Speaker 1: even give the defense that much love. When I think
Speaker 1: Washington had eight drives that went to the thirty six
Speaker 1: yard line of Denver's or further and they finished with
Speaker 1: ten points. That's almost impossible to do. So they lived
Speaker 1: deep in Broncos territory. And then Heinik happened. I mean
Speaker 1: that last couple of I did watch the very end
Speaker 1: of this game, and that's it. The last couple of
Speaker 1: Washington sequences were We're unreal how badly executed they were
Speaker 1: on offense. And I'm sure it was somewhat good defense,
Speaker 1: but it was more just bad offense. It was well,
Speaker 1: it was better than like the Denver defense that we've
Speaker 1: been watching, though, but it has a lot of right.
Speaker 1: I just mean, it was it was rough. I know
Speaker 1: we've Heinik's doing his best, but it's tough. It was
Speaker 1: a hard watch. It's a tough sitch. That big stand
Speaker 1: at the end prevented the first windless October for the
Speaker 1: Broncos since nineteen six seven. Let's take a break and
Speaker 1: then close this thing out. Second in ten Stafford from
Speaker 1: the gun, looking right, throwing end zone, Cooper Cups got
Speaker 1: it touchdown l A and eleven yards strike to the
Speaker 1: NFL's leading receiver to put this one on ice. Matt
Speaker 1: Stafford through for three five yards and three touchdowns and
Speaker 1: three quarters. That's J B. Long CASPN with the call,
Speaker 1: by the way, and the Rams dominated the Texans. That
Speaker 1: doesn't even tell the story. Los Angeles had a thirty
Speaker 1: eight ZIP lead when Sean McVeigh pulled his quarterback from
Speaker 1: the game. So as four straight wins uh for the Rams,
Speaker 1: seven straight losses for the Texans. Uh. Who are the
Speaker 1: worst team in football. And there's some bad teams in football,
Speaker 1: there always are, but I think Texans are the worst.
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup continues to be on the record setting pace. Guys.
Speaker 1: It's exciting. No, I mean this is a tough situation. Um,
Speaker 1: My daughter really enjoyed it. I mean she is. It
Speaker 1: was fun to be at home and just see how
Speaker 1: locked in she is the Rams game and she was
Speaker 1: living it. She was dying. She loves the blowouts. She's
Speaker 1: dying when they give up some plays up thirty eight nothing,
Speaker 1: Texans scored twenty two points in the span of six
Speaker 1: minutes to get one of the all time back door covers.
Speaker 1: I think the line ended at sixteen and a half.
Speaker 1: They go for two as if they knew what the
Speaker 1: line was to cut it to sixteen and get it
Speaker 1: depends when you know you you picked the game. But
Speaker 1: if you did it like right before game time, that's
Speaker 1: in all and all timer. Um. I don't know what
Speaker 1: else to say about that. Yeah, the Texans, I think
Speaker 1: that what seventy seven yards of offense going into the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. It's that you're right, how to run the
Speaker 1: clock in. They're the worst. They are the worst team.
Speaker 1: I totally safe. We talked about this last week actually
Speaker 1: you know, off air, but that I totally supported them
Speaker 1: at thirty two despite you know that when they won
Speaker 1: the won win. Yes, so there you go, and uh,
Speaker 1: that is the longest losing streak for the Texans since
Speaker 1: they lost fourteen games in a row and season. They
Speaker 1: stink and Deshaun Watson will be on that roster until
Speaker 1: the off season. It sounds like that is at least
Speaker 1: the story. I guess if there's anything for the Texans
Speaker 1: um in terms of a reprieve here, Yes, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna get Deshaun Watson out of your life. But once
Speaker 1: the trade deadline passes and it's now very clear that
Speaker 1: he is not going to play a snap on the field,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't make any sense on a number of levels.
Speaker 1: He this is that stories. I think it's gonna disappear
Speaker 1: and then come back with a vengeance come the off season.
Speaker 1: But Stephen Ross was that I don't know. I still
Speaker 1: but there's nothing I could happen. The story can't run
Speaker 1: forward after the deadline right now, Yeah, we need to
Speaker 1: pass that deadline. De Sean Jackson will not be on
Speaker 1: the Rams by the way, by the time we get
Speaker 1: past the deadline. I don't know if they'll find anyone
Speaker 1: to trade him, but it sounds like they're just gonna
Speaker 1: cut him. They brought in someone I was not familiar
Speaker 1: with late in this game, Square Neck, who was catching
Speaker 1: passes down the field, and I was like, oh, he
Speaker 1: looks Okay. I guess de Sean Jackson really will never play.
Speaker 1: Problem and for any team that trades for Deshaun Jackson
Speaker 1: is he's He's already passed the window, the two week
Speaker 1: window in September where he's awesome. So I don't know
Speaker 1: unless it resets when he joins a new team and
Speaker 1: you get that first month back, I don't know, or
Speaker 1: or you're building for next September and you just you're
Speaker 1: stashing him. He's gonna get caught. He's gonna sign with
Speaker 1: someone as a free agent. That was all right. Before
Speaker 1: we say goodbye, let's talk the last game that was
Speaker 1: played on on day Sunday Night football from Minneapolis. Do
Speaker 1: not ever count out Cooper Rush Sunday Nights to Lee
Speaker 1: and John Kennedy's hill for the touchdowns Cooper Amari Cooper
Speaker 1: over Cameron Danceler seventy five yards in eight place to
Speaker 1: take the lead. I love this Cowboys team. I do,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people feel the same way.
Speaker 1: Even people that hate the Cowboys are like, man, this
Speaker 1: team knows what it's doing. With Dak Prescott sidelined as
Speaker 1: a precaution with that cap injury, Cooper Rush steps in.
Speaker 1: It looks good. He wasn't perfect. He threw a bad pick,
Speaker 1: he lost a fumble, but he also threw yards with
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, including that go ahead and score late Tomari
Speaker 1: Cooper after Zeke Elliott had a huge third down conversion.
Speaker 1: Uh and the Cowboys drop of twenty sixteen loss on
Speaker 1: the Vikings Mark. I mean, we'll get to the Vikings.
Speaker 1: It's a brutal loss for the Vikings that really takes
Speaker 1: a lot of wind out of their sales. But for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys there six and one and what almost felt
Speaker 1: like a giveaway game and they went and won the
Speaker 1: damn thing. It's the kind of win that UH makes
Speaker 1: you I I also am really enjoying this Cowboys team.
Speaker 1: And the ceiling feels completely unknown, just because you know,
Speaker 1: eking out something like this where a Cooper rush didn't
Speaker 1: didn't know, you know, short shortly before the game if
Speaker 1: he was gonna play or not, and you know, they
Speaker 1: had Dak Prescott doing a variety of workouts for I
Speaker 1: thought he looked Spry looked pretty good. And it's like
Speaker 1: suddenly Cooper rushes in there. And I thought that he
Speaker 1: grew after a couple he could have had maybe three
Speaker 1: interceptions in the first half. He had he had one
Speaker 1: that was you know, ricocheted off someone. I thought he
Speaker 1: grew more comfortable as the game went on. Obviously made
Speaker 1: some big path US is down down the stretch, uh
Speaker 1: to me, Like the ending was also delightful because, and
Speaker 1: this was from NFL research, the Cooper rush to a
Speaker 1: Mari Cooper touchdown, and I know everyone was saying Cooper
Speaker 1: to Cooper. I get it, we all understand that. But
Speaker 1: it is the first time in NFL history where the
Speaker 1: pastor's first name and a receiver's last name are an
Speaker 1: exact match. Thank to Liz, Thank you to listeners who
Speaker 1: sent that my way. But I just thought it was
Speaker 1: a win where the Cowboys. I start to think more
Speaker 1: about Mike McCarthy, I start to think more about the
Speaker 1: whole coaching staff, the way that they're able to overcomes
Speaker 1: well until we hit that Cooper Cooper the first time
Speaker 1: in NFL history. That's kind of that's kind of insane, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, you couldn't you could think in your head
Speaker 1: that there would be the last to be totally honest,
Speaker 1: I know, but you know what, there's a pocket of
Speaker 1: our audience, maybe a very small pocket, like that little, tiny,
Speaker 1: tiny pocket in your jeans where you just put some coins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the little pocket, like some people are like this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. Greg take it from there, Greg over to you,
Speaker 1: what what um, what a defensive performance. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think that's that's what we're learning. I know, you know,
Speaker 1: defense has mattered based on how good the offense is
Speaker 1: that they're playing against sometimes, but these were two top
Speaker 1: tennis type defenses coming into the game, and one looked
Speaker 1: much better, you know, I know Patrick Peterson was missing,
Speaker 1: but one of them gave up four hundred yards to
Speaker 1: Cooper rush and and a game winning touchdown drive when
Speaker 1: all you had to do was at least just stop,
Speaker 1: you know, making a field goal and at least you
Speaker 1: can go to overtime. Zeke Elliott you mentioned runs through
Speaker 1: that tackle by Anthony Barr, Cooper, Mosses Danceler. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was just an awesome play. It was not an
Speaker 1: underrated catch. Everyone knows it was an awesome catch. But
Speaker 1: that was a difficult catch to win the game. Uh,
Speaker 1: they held him under three hundred yards. The Viking, the
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, I think through the ball twenty times for
Speaker 1: seventy nine yards in the second half. It's like, we
Speaker 1: gotta give him love. It's all sorts of dudes up
Speaker 1: front to It's a diggy zoa. Michael Parsons is a
Speaker 1: beast obviously Gregory has been great, but it's a lot
Speaker 1: of guys contributing, and we all have friends that are
Speaker 1: Vikings fans and they are an agitated fan base. And Dan,
Speaker 1: I think you mentioned on the last show how the
Speaker 1: Vikings go to sleep on offense, and we saw that
Speaker 1: tonight and it was embarrassing. I mean, the same thing
Speaker 1: happened against the Browns a few weeks back. As I recall,
Speaker 1: they go right down the field on the first drive,
Speaker 1: Cousins hits Adam Feeling and you're thinking they're often running
Speaker 1: and Cooper cup Cooper rushes the other quarterback on the
Speaker 1: other side, and this is gonna be a four quarter
Speaker 1: party for the Vikings, and then just a completely different
Speaker 1: game broke out and I think Cousins was you know,
Speaker 1: he was pretty amped up and agitated throughout this game,
Speaker 1: I thought, and Mike Zimmer looked very annoyed with the offense,
Speaker 1: uh and how it performed in this game. And when
Speaker 1: you look at you know, the weapons, Dalvin Cook was
Speaker 1: held in check. Um. He wasn't bad, but did not
Speaker 1: have a big time game. I thought he would in
Speaker 1: this game. And then you look, you know, Feeling did
Speaker 1: some things had the touchdown. But justin Jefferson had two
Speaker 1: catches for twenty one yards and four targets. kJ Osborne,
Speaker 1: who had been talking up, he had two catches, uh
Speaker 1: for ten yards, and there just wasn't anyone else that
Speaker 1: was able to step up and make the big play.
Speaker 1: So like the and you know, I've been talking about
Speaker 1: the Vikings on this podcast that they're interesting to me.
Speaker 1: When you have a game like this, it's just like, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know if this team is ever going to
Speaker 1: figure it out. They might just be one of those
Speaker 1: one step forward to step back teams all year and
Speaker 1: then by the time you get to January, you look
Speaker 1: up and they're eight and nine, and being like, I
Speaker 1: can't believe we let the season slip away. I'm starting
Speaker 1: to have some real doubts about them after this performance.
Speaker 1: One for thirteen on third down another indicator that they
Speaker 1: can go real, real silent on that side of the ball. Um.
Speaker 1: I think Mike zimmer Um coaches like it's nine still
Speaker 1: at times it's not, you know, entirely on everyone, but
Speaker 1: I'm with you. They're an eight win team that or
Speaker 1: they had nine win team that we're gonna we we
Speaker 1: already you know, how I feel about this, But they're
Speaker 1: gonna get hard objector seated out of this situation at
Speaker 1: some point, and I don't need to put my faith
Speaker 1: into what they're doing. I don't know. I see, I
Speaker 1: know what you're saying there, Mark. Sometimes that's one thing
Speaker 1: where we just have a different viewpoint on football, where
Speaker 1: you will write off a team if they're not gonna
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, Like I think not only could
Speaker 1: the Vikings despite what I just said, if they found
Speaker 1: their way to win a couple of games, I think
Speaker 1: they could take somebody out in January. I still think
Speaker 1: they are a team that could be a thorn in
Speaker 1: someone's side and and have a run in them. But
Speaker 1: this this type of loss is just like, man, are
Speaker 1: you just never going to figure it out? And maybe
Speaker 1: that's not being fair to the Cowboys, who had an
Speaker 1: awesome performance, especially on defense and what Rush was able
Speaker 1: to do um, But the frustration is real because you
Speaker 1: know there is a winning team somewhere in that locker
Speaker 1: room in Minnesota and it just refuses to come out.
Speaker 1: And if there isn't right, there's some bad luck involved.
Speaker 1: I mean, Cooper Rush did this game winning touchdown drive
Speaker 1: by throwing the ball directly into Bishod Brelan's gut, who
Speaker 1: and then it bounced off the gut into his hand
Speaker 1: up in the air into Marie Cooper's hands. For like
Speaker 1: the forty yard games, it was like the game was
Speaker 1: over if if Freeland makes that play. But but they
Speaker 1: had seven drives of four players or less. I I
Speaker 1: we we look at you know, we try not to
Speaker 1: like think that like it's at this prime time or
Speaker 1: big game thing. But I don't know, man, I've watched
Speaker 1: every Kirk Cousins game this year. This was the worst one,
Speaker 1: you know, it really was. I know they only had
Speaker 1: seven points about Cleveland, but this was this was the
Speaker 1: first one where it was like he he was a
Speaker 1: big part of the problem. He was he was, he
Speaker 1: was freaking out. I'm glad you mentioned that. He just
Speaker 1: seemed amped up. It's like it was like the game's bigger,
Speaker 1: so me and Zimmer are gonna be more amped up.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't seem like it helps out that way.
Speaker 1: So yeah, amped up doesn't translate unfortunately, where it does
Speaker 1: for some other quarterbacks. There was a there was a
Speaker 1: play in the first half. I think it was maybe
Speaker 1: their third possession, uh, when it was a third down
Speaker 1: conversion attempt, and they showed it on the replay NBC.
Speaker 1: Cousins is going through his progressions. Someone flashes I believe
Speaker 1: open over the middle, and the receiver I'm thinking based
Speaker 1: on the reaction, does something that Cousins didn't want. So
Speaker 1: Cousins looks away and then dumps it off for a
Speaker 1: some type of dump out pass that didn't get the
Speaker 1: first down. And he's like screaming and anger as he's
Speaker 1: moving down to the checkdown, and I'm like, who does
Speaker 1: that in the middle of the play, Like he was
Speaker 1: so amped up. Uh, maybe the moment did get too
Speaker 1: big for him. I don't know. I don't want to
Speaker 1: have those Kirk Cousins conversations anymore. I knew they drove
Speaker 1: West crazy as well, But man, I see what you're saying, Greg,
Speaker 1: he didn't play well with a lot of people watching
Speaker 1: them tonight. Well how about this? How about right before
Speaker 1: the half when they were trying to get something going
Speaker 1: and they had the seconds for running out and they
Speaker 1: looked like it looked like the second preseason game with
Speaker 1: a quarterback that had been in college three months ago.
Speaker 1: They couldn't get the snout. I mean it was just no.
Speaker 1: It was just like hyper disorganized, and it's just the
Speaker 1: ear mark of a team that's gonna get caught off
Speaker 1: guard at some point and it's gonna be bye bye,
Speaker 1: see you later, check you, check you again. In two
Speaker 1: Marks is trying to CROSSLF teams and I it's not
Speaker 1: like a bold take mark. I don't think anybody sees
Speaker 1: the Vikings right now as a Super Bowl team, Like, yes,
Speaker 1: eventually they will be crossed off and you won't have
Speaker 1: to We're calling them super fun and I think the
Speaker 1: problem is that if you ask most Vikings fans, it's
Speaker 1: fun for us because we can jump out of it
Speaker 1: when they suddenly do this. But if you're following this
Speaker 1: team week to week, you are being driven nuts. It's
Speaker 1: like you're running through a field and you've got like
Speaker 1: eight people shooting arrows at you. You're gonna go down.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna work out for you. I'm with the man.
Speaker 1: It is fun when they win. It's just really not
Speaker 1: fun when they lose. This team, I don't know. There's
Speaker 1: the highs are highs and the lows are low. Good
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, though, Man, I got a lot of
Speaker 1: work to do with the power rankings that that be
Speaker 1: now begins tonight after this podcast wraps. I don't know
Speaker 1: what to make of the top ten is like very
Speaker 1: why don't you do something really um like that? Imagine
Speaker 1: there's like twelve people doing power rankings, like if not
Speaker 1: a hundred and twelve people, but like the twelve main
Speaker 1: guys you're in that group that crew of writers, like
Speaker 1: do something so bizarre that it's like it catches total fire,
Speaker 1: like illogical Number one. I don't mean, I mean like
Speaker 1: someone out of remember one upset Pat McAfee. I have
Speaker 1: his trust, so I talked. I remember after last Sunday,
Speaker 1: I was like, put put that Cowboys team number one?
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, put that put that they're looking good, Like
Speaker 1: you got the Packers at seven and one, the Rams
Speaker 1: are seven and one, the Cowboys are six and one.
Speaker 1: Probably one of those three teams or number one Arizona
Speaker 1: is going to drop out of the past number one.
Speaker 1: Let's go oh man, all right, Ricky, I'm glad he
Speaker 1: had a good time at the game, speaking quickly on
Speaker 1: very quickly, you know, for the New England sports scene.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad to do it, but it's no
Speaker 1: I just wanna say rest in peace to Jerry Remy.
Speaker 1: What what a great broadcaster he was, um for the
Speaker 1: Red Sox, um just bringing like joy, No one had
Speaker 1: more fun like I am so happy I got to
Speaker 1: spend like twenty years just listening to him every day
Speaker 1: because no one had more fun and made sports more
Speaker 1: fun than him listening to him every day. So it's sad.
Speaker 1: Yet he had cancer seven different times and he battled
Speaker 1: battlet and was on the air for a lot of it. Um,
Speaker 1: but but lost lost his life today. But what what
Speaker 1: an influence he had for like a bunch of you know,
Speaker 1: millions and millions of kids in New England watching those games.
Speaker 1: Sure I remember when I went to uh college and
Speaker 1: and up in Boston and and you know, the Red
Speaker 1: Sox are always on in the background, um with all
Speaker 1: the you know, natives of the region at the school.
Speaker 1: And uh you know, even as a Yankees fan, I
Speaker 1: love I love Remy because he was so it was
Speaker 1: a real dude. He had a sense of humor, he
Speaker 1: had that accent. He was a Massachusetts dude through and
Speaker 1: through a New England guy. And uh yeah his uh
Speaker 1: his hilarious to legit funny, which almost no one I
Speaker 1: feel like not made. That's not fair, but like legit
Speaker 1: funny for that's true. That's true. One of the great broadcasters,
Speaker 1: gone too soon. All right, there we go, week eight.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're all messed up now, mark because of
Speaker 1: the seventeen game season, but we're kind of at the
Speaker 1: halfway point now of the regular season, and that's yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't really week never was really the
Speaker 1: halfway point of anything, and even in the regular just
Speaker 1: the regular season to begin with last time, because just
Speaker 1: to prevent any tweets or whatever, the end of next
Speaker 1: week would officially be halfway because there's now eighteen weeks
Speaker 1: and next week's week nine. So if we're looking for
Speaker 1: a halfway nine eighteen divide, oh man, we gotta go
Speaker 1: through an entire full week just to get to the
Speaker 1: halfway point. Now that that's dark, All right, good stuff.
Speaker 1: I hope everybody had a happy and save Halloween, and
Speaker 1: we will be back on Tuesday. It will be the
Speaker 1: trade deadline edition of the Round the NFL Podcorse podcast,
Speaker 1: or maybe just a regular edition of the podcast if
Speaker 1: nothing notable happens on the trade landscape, But either way,
Speaker 1: we hope you're there listening and thank you for always
Speaker 1: tuning in. This is Dan Hanson signing off for Quiet Storm,
Speaker 1: the old boss Rookie Hollywood. There's a happy grave digger somewhere.
Speaker 1: The pipe good stuff until Tuesday. He the car. I
Speaker 1: just sat grave bigger, put on the side, Make make
Speaker 1: it tightens number one. That would be cold that that
Speaker 1: would be a pay s