1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. He's always ready to go along. 2 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hanson. It comes to you from 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: a virtual room filled with some heroes. Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: Oh heroes. It's a spectacular edition of the podcast. The 6 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: flagship show Halloween Night and uh tricker treat, as they say, 7 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: Greggy and it was a treat for a lot of 8 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: teams that had unsung, unheralded backup quarterbacks in big spots. Yeah, 9 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: if you, uh were once coached by Adam Gate, you 10 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: had quite a day. It was a fun It was 11 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: a fun Sunday. I mean because of the surprising results. 12 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: Uh and because we got to do it at home, 13 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: and um that was that was nice get a little 14 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: tricker treating in while after we watched some of the 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: football is perfect. There is an immense um rager happening 16 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: about four teen feet from my head out the window 17 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: at my neighbor's house. I can't decipher what actions are 18 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: taking place, but it's a very um festive Halloween night 19 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: here in the neighborhood. I'm also glad that we did 20 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: what we did because we all got a chance to 21 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: take our kids out trick or treating a little bit 22 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: um amid a wild Sunday night football game, if you 23 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: want to use that word. But it only capped off 24 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: not only for the Jets, but other teams a pretty 25 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: dramatic we gate. Yeah, the Jets are one of those 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: teams that had an unlikely performance from a backup when 27 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: you say that there's something crazy going on next door. 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: Because Halloween is itself, they're the parties and things of 29 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: that nature. And yes, my Vincent Vega T shirt did 30 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: come in time, and I had a good time last 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: night at an adult Halloween party. But usually it's about 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: the kids on Halloween proper. But you seem to hint 33 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: before we jumped down that there might be something a 34 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: little bit more zesty happening next door. Right now I 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: can only you is um. You know the evidence provided 36 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: audio wise to my ears, and there is UM station 37 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: next door to my house. UM our rental house because 38 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: we'll never own a house in California ever. UM A 39 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: gigantic camper that's continually parked there. And you know, I 40 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: am assuming that, like older sleepy relatives typically inhabit that vehicle. 41 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: But what I've been hearing um would suggest other events 42 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: UM not involving old sleepy. So when the air stream 43 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: is a rocking, don't blank a blanket. That's that's well said. 44 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: I think you've you've put it into No, I'm not 45 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: saying that's been continuous. There are other things too, but 46 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: there was, you know, maybe that was part of it. 47 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 1: Let's get grave digger in this car, send him over 48 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: to your neighborhood and maybe he can get some like 49 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: boots on the ground reporting on what's going on next 50 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 1: to Settler's house. So we'll continue to track that situation. 51 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: But yes, there were many a football game played on 52 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: this Sunday, Halloween Sunday. Let's start a great scene down 53 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: in New Orleans at the Superdome where the defending champions 54 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: ran into a buzz saw. Time to pro that one 55 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: has picked off, picked off with the right hand side 56 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be touchdown. Ne Orleans want a play 57 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: pick six Peppy Halloween my costs with the call for 58 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: w w L. I don't know if it was the 59 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: fact that it was Halloween and you know, everybody's in 60 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: a good mood and then a little you know, dressed 61 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: up in costumes and maybe getting a little loose at 62 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: the stadiums, but there were some great vibes at some 63 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: of these stadiums today and the Superdome, that place was rocking. 64 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: After P J. Williams intercepted, Tom Brady returned at forty 65 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: yards for a touchdown with just to play, and that 66 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: was the key play in the Saints thirty win over 67 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: the Bucks. So a huge win for the Saints, who really, 68 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, that's what you call the old statement win, 69 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: saying we are a true conference superpower who can beat anyone, 70 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: including Tom Brady in a big spot. However, there was 71 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: the bad news of Jameis Winston, who got pulled down 72 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: on a horse collar type tackle in the first half 73 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: of this game, suffered a left knee injury. Ian Rappaport 74 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: reported after the game that it's an a c L 75 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: injury UH and also potentially MCL damage And when Sean 76 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: Payton spoke on UH the injury after the game, he 77 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: had this to say, Yeah, I'm gonna get an update here. 78 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: I think it's significant. Um he felt something, UM and 79 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: he's on crutches right now. UM. I don't want to 80 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: say until I have a chance to talk with the doctors, 81 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: but UM, you know it was something when you know 82 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: when he got up and then had to go back down, 83 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: you know you were a little concerned. So as we 84 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: tape this, Greg, you know, we're bracing for the news 85 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: that I think a lot of we were expecting that 86 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston season ended tonight or today in New Orleans. 87 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: So it is a bitter sweet moment for the Saints. 88 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: The biggest win of the year but also the biggest 89 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: loss of the season injury was Yeah, it is. And 90 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: I don't think they were letting it get them down. 91 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: I know that even Jamis wasn't letting get him down. 92 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: You know, they did their club Saints thing in the 93 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: locker room afterwards and mark Ingram's on the i G 94 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: stories And it's the most Jamis thing ever that I 95 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: will remember his Saints season as a starter for swinging 96 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: his crutches around while he awkwardly dances on a tour 97 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: in a c l after just a ridiculous victory which 98 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: got kick started by like an unreal throw on his 99 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: one touchdown of the day to tra Kwon Smith as 100 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: he was getting hit. It like gave you that that 101 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: window into maybe what could be um And it's just 102 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: a reminder maybe that the Saints defense though maybe they 103 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: are one of the only defenses that matter. And I 104 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: was thinking even as this game, you know, the Bucks 105 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: were gonna put when he's seven up, but they have 106 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's number. Like at this point, I feel like 107 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: we can say that they are the one defense Dennis 108 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: Allen that consistently scrambles up Tom Brady first team ever 109 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: or maybe the second team ever since the Peyton Manning 110 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: Broncos to beat him three straight times in the regular season. Yeah, 111 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's uh, I thought. Jeff Duncan, they're one 112 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: of their great beat writers, put out this amazing stat 113 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: that Brady with the Buccaneers verse everyone else in the 114 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: regular season throws an interception every eighty three point nine attempts, 115 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: which is, you know, relatively very good. But in his 116 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: in his three games in the regular season versus Saints, 117 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: it's been one every sixteen point two and that you 118 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: know it's they put it on him last season. They 119 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: did it again. They have found a way to track 120 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and unseat him at times, and he looked uncomfortable, 121 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: and it just goes back to me. I think that 122 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: along with a defense that might really be a difference maker, Greg. 123 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: I think that in Sean Payton, and this is not 124 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: breaking news, but he is one of those coaches that 125 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: not only you know the way the whole defense operates today, 126 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: you know they had Trevor Simeon have to come into 127 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: the game, and we've seen a lot of bad from 128 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon and some good, and what the Saints did 129 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: with him, I think that I thought that they didn't 130 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: change their game plan. They threw aggressively. I feel like 131 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: Sean Payton could get NFL editor David Eliot to go 132 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty one for a hundred and eighty four yards 133 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: and two touchdowns if he needed to. He's just one 134 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: of those coaches. And it completely changes the way that 135 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: I feel about the Saints because it was the old 136 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: completely changes. Well. No, here's the thing. I mean, obviously 137 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: obviously like their their fortunes are dimmed big time, but 138 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: I just have total respect for how they're run from 139 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: top to bottom, from Sean Payton on down. I mean, 140 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: it's like they are totally resilient team. I thought they 141 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: were gonna be a Hammond Egger this year and they've 142 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: not been. Things changed without the quarterback well that that's 143 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: the kind of that's why this is such a bittersweet 144 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: game because I think could be wrong, because Sean Payton 145 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: is a great coach and there's some really good players 146 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: on that roster. Still, I think they're cooked. I think, 147 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: you know, if you lose Drew Brees to retirement and 148 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: then you bring in Jamis Winston and I think we 149 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: all get kind of robbed, some of us more than 150 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: others uh sneaky Saints fan Greg Rosenthal, all the real 151 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: Saints fans. I mean, this was, but even just football fans, 152 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: such a compelling story to track Jamis Winston in his 153 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: redemption season, in this incredible once uh second opportunity to 154 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: kind of put a stamp on his career. So if 155 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: this is the end of his season and who knows 156 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: where the Saints go once the offseason hits, uh man, 157 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: that's really tough. I just don't. I mean, I've seen 158 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon play before. We know basically what Trevor Simeon is. 159 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, he was pretty lucky in this game. 160 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 1: He had a horrendous pick that was wiped away by 161 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: a penalty, And I just think they're going to be 162 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: very limited, uh with him. Now you have Taysom Hill 163 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: obviously coming back from the concussion, maybe as soon as 164 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: next week, and then you can get into that business 165 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: if you can talk yourself into this offense being able 166 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: to score points with Taysom Hill. I am uh definitely 167 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: more on the side of a pessimistic on that. Uh. 168 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: So that is like the bad side. I don't want 169 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: to be the doomsayer here because they do will deserve 170 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: a lot of credit because I think even the staunch 171 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: of Saints fans thought this game was lost once Winston 172 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: went out and once Brady got hot, and they wiped 173 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: out that sixteen point second half devasit. Brady did throw 174 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: four touchdowns, by the way, so he was doing things 175 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: in this game. So to be able to step up 176 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: on defense and do just enough on offense really nice 177 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: moment for the Saints, even if it might in the 178 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: big picture me and the end for them right might 179 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: be the high point of their season. And you know 180 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: there will be a lot of teams that won't have 181 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: a point high point like this, a raucous Halloween where 182 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: you beat the defending champs, who they who they really hate. 183 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: I did think Gronk going out after five plays with 184 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: another back injury was significant just for the long term 185 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: um health of the of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Um, 186 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: all right, before we move on. UM, I just want 187 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: to just the overall thing because Tom Brady is such 188 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: a larger than life figure it is. It did cross 189 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: my mind at one point that, um, the Saints fans 190 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: just going nuts and enjoying beating Tom Brady. Like there's 191 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: a whole other segment of sports fan or NFL fans 192 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: that are getting this treatment now that he's in the 193 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: NFC in a different division. Uh, just Brady, the tales 194 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: of Brady. It's just, uh, you know, he makes things 195 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: more fun when he's around. Tom Brady, win or lose. Um, 196 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: all right, let us move on. So there you go. 197 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: The Bucks go down the Saints with the w but 198 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: they lose their quarterback. Let's head to another big division 199 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: matchup this in the a f crand Bullock Sam said 200 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: kick that was so good and tight with a treat 201 00:10:55,440 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: at Lucas Oil Stadium. I've called nearly five these games 202 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: and I've never seen one like this. Hey, Mike Keith 203 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: Sell It paint a picture Mike Key w g f 204 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: X with a guy I like the idea that we're 205 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: gonna get a bunch of these Mark, a bunch of 206 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: like Halloween references within each final call of big plays. 207 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: Where two for two so far, how many more I'm 208 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: gonna set it at four and a half. Do you 209 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: think we'll get the over? On that? I think we'll 210 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: get the over. I think that UM in general, to 211 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: play by play man as a as an entity, cannot 212 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: shy away from it on any level. I'm going I'm 213 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: banging the over, just like Kevin Bayer lean into being 214 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: a hero. He picked off Carson Wentz and cults territory 215 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: and overtime, setting up Randy Bullock big bone Randy for 216 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: a forty four yard field goal, wild ending to this 217 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: one at Lucas Oil Stadium, and it ended with a 218 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: thirty four thirty one win for the Titans over the Colts. 219 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: And Um, you know, just like we talked about Greg 220 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: leading into this game, this was a very dangerous game, 221 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: uh for the Titans. Mark, hats off to you get 222 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: the lock. But this kind of played out how I 223 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: thought it was gonna play out. A desperate Colts team 224 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: fighting every inch to to try to stay alive. I'bout 225 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: to actually take your hat off when you say that 226 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 1: you're wearing a hat right now, take it off when 227 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: you talk about me dominate competition. You can't tell you 228 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: what I'm suggesting it. It's not a colloquialism. Actually do 229 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: what you say. I decline, but maybe at some point 230 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: I'll take my hat off to you when you're not 231 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 1: expecting it. How about that? There it is anyway, this 232 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: is a game, Greg. They got off to a fourteen 233 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: zip lead the Cults, and then the Titans did their 234 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 1: Titans thing. They clawed back and find a way. This 235 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: was a great game that this. You know, they gotta 236 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: put this on the NFL network Prime time. Little set up, 237 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: you gotta put it first up in your game pass. 238 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: You look at the score and you think the defenses 239 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: didn't play that well, but actually they both defenses held 240 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: the up the opposition I think under five yards for 241 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: play or five and a half yards for play. They 242 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: both made a couple big turnovers. The overtime was essentially 243 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: four straight defensive stops, uh, including the Titans setting up 244 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: a long field goal to win it, which you know, 245 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: big bone Randy just barely snuck it in there, and 246 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: we could be questioning Mike Rabel, you know, getting very 247 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: conservative at the end. But I don't blame him. It 248 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: was two defenses that basically we're daring the other quarterback 249 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: to beat them. They were daring Ryan Tannehill to beat him, 250 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: and he started out with two ugly interceptions uh in 251 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: the in the first half, but then played well in 252 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: the second half, and the Titans defense dared Carson Wentz 253 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: to beat him, and he beat the Colts. He this 254 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: was the Carson Wentz game that you were afraid of. Um, 255 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,599 Speaker 1: not just the ugly interception at the end of the 256 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: fourth quarter and then the ugly interception in overtime, but 257 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: miss throws which led the lad the Titans back into 258 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: the game, just inaccurate throws where where guys were open. 259 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe how much guilt and wait Frank Wright 260 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: put on himself, and that the writers that I've seen, 261 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: uh put on Frank Reig for the play calling in 262 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: this game. When I'm like his play callings, why they're 263 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: in this game. Carson Wentz is missing these throws and uh, 264 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: it was just kind of a nightmare game, and especially 265 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: a finish for Wentz. I don't like that with Wentz. 266 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: You know, the the interception that came on a terrible 267 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: decision to unfurl the ball out of his own end 268 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: zone was just it. It looked like someone that had, 269 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: you know, just been introduced to the sport at the position. 270 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: To me, I thought it was just a terrible move. Um. 271 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: The thing that's stuck with me because you know, I 272 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: was kind of watching this while this stuff was going on. 273 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill really wasn't a really rough spot early on, 274 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: made a couple of big errors, and they were they 275 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: could not kind of get find their groove. There is 276 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: this element of toughness to Ryan Tannehill though, I mean 277 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: his teammates were having He got hit a bunch of this. 278 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: His teammages were pulling them up off the turf at 279 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: one point, and he battled and he fought, and I 280 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: there is just something about this Titans team that mistakes aside. 281 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: They were more resilient. Um. I was wrong about the 282 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: cults though they are not. I called them I think 283 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: sleepy and boring on our NFL Network show. They were 284 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: not today, but they are not the class of this division. 285 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: They're why why their game? Their game? Out of the 286 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: A F C. Walker they're done in the division. They're 287 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: done in the division. There three and five wild card maybe, 288 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: but there. Yeah, Tennessee is a three game lead through 289 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: eight games and the tiebreaker courtesy of the sweep, So 290 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: barring a major injury to one of the principal players 291 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: of the Titans, they will coast to the a f 292 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: C South title. That's how big this game was, and 293 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: that's how that's that's how much it has to just 294 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: kill Frank Reich And you know Carson Wentz who you know, 295 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: maybe it was knowing how much the game meant that 296 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: led to the two interceptions at the end that you 297 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: know he's pressing a little bit. I think we have 298 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: the the audio from the cover your fans, Cover your ears, 299 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: Colts fans, but we wanted to hear the indie call 300 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: of that left handed pick six deep in his own end, 301 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: one of the worst passes you'll ever see, especially given 302 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: the circumstances. Play action wins. He said, that's that's all away. 303 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: There he does, let's picked off, then it's picked off 304 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: by Elijah Malden and then if they touchdown, this game 305 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: cannot end. Like, oh god, I'm sick to my stuff. 306 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: This game has been too good for him to end 307 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: like that. Absolutely one. Come on, guys, you've dis you've 308 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: disappointed Matt Taylor and Rick Van Terry of w F 309 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: and I and Greg too. Wentz is credit to the Cults. 310 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: Credit they go down the field to get a big 311 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: p I and scored a tie it. Maybe they should 312 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: have a win for two there. Maybe they should have 313 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: because yet they were getting so many calls in the 314 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: second half of this game. This game had a lot 315 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: of luck going in each direction. I mean, you didn't 316 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: watch it and think like, oh, the Titans are a 317 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: better team. They just sort of they made the play 318 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: at you know, they basically didn't have Carson Wentz on 319 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: their team, but it could not have been more. Even 320 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: the Colts got so many lucky calls in this game. 321 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: But the Titans also had this incredibly lucky sequence where 322 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: Tae Kwon Lewis picked off Tannehill on the third down 323 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: play and blows out his knee while running the ball 324 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: back and fumbles the ball right back to Tennessee. At 325 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: that point, I think it was fourteen nothing and then A. J. 326 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: Brown had a long touchdown the very next play. It's 327 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: similar to so when it was fourteen nothing. The Colts 328 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: got aggressive and went for it on fourth down, and 329 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: I really remember that sequence well, where Wentz missed a 330 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: wide open Hilton streaking down the field for a touchdown 331 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: that would have made it twenty one nothing. Then they 332 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: go for it on fourth and everyone's killing Reich for 333 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: going for It's like when smissed an open throw, and 334 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: that's like, I don't kill him for being aggressive at all. 335 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: They shut down Derrick Henry. He had sixty eight yards 336 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: on twenty eight touches um. Jonathan Taylor had a hundred 337 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: and twenty two yards and twenty touches. Uh, and you 338 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,239 Speaker 1: kinda if you're a Colts fans start wondering, like, uh, 339 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: why don'd we throw the ball fifty one times and 340 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: run at sixteen with Jonathan Taylor? Like they they That's 341 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: what the Titans were asking for and that's what they got. Yes, 342 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: five turnovers between the two teams, UM, a bunch of 343 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: wild swings, two touchdowns, the final eighties, six seconds of regulation, 344 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: twenty penalties. It wasn't a beauty, but it was a 345 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: lot of fun to watch. Let's now move on to 346 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: another big division game, this one uh in Cleveland with 347 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: the Steelers looking for some revenge. Fourth and goal with 348 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: the two. Here's the snap, he's back, he pops, he 349 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: fires for the end zone and it's jug all through 350 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: the back of the end zone. What do they call touchdown? 351 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: Pitchburgh pet prayer, the pitch State rookie and the Steelers 352 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: forge I had, Oh is that a sweet play? Bill 353 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: hill Grove and Craig Wolfley with the call for w 354 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: d V Ben Rothelisberger. He knows how to get it 355 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: done against the Browns, who had the advantage of the 356 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: Steelers losing their place kicker, which caused all sorts of 357 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: issues for the Steelers and led to them do to 358 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: do things like going for it in that instance, and 359 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: it led to the pat fire mouth touchdown. The put 360 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: the Steelers ahead. They stayed ahead, getting some stops on defense. 361 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: Fifteen ten the final, uh, Steelers over Browns and Mark. 362 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: Nothing's gonna wipe away the playoff glory of last January 363 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: and that great win for Cleveland over Pittsburgh. But what 364 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: happened here today is too familiar script over the past 365 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: twenty years. I think it wipes it away. It wipes 366 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: it away for me because like that was meant to 367 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: be the start of something where there's continuity, and the 368 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: Browns um proved today that they really you know, they 369 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: kept talking about it as big brother, little brother, and 370 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: it's a totally fair comparison. Um it's they are the 371 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: little brother. And and like the credit goes to Pittsburgh 372 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: because I think this began. Um it's a it was 373 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: a culture win. Um Nick Shook mentioned that in his 374 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 1: right up and I really agree with that. The Cleveland 375 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: still figuring out their culture. But I think Mike Tomlin 376 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: set the tone early this week with a furious press 377 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: conference for he basically blew up any concept of him 378 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: going to USC but all so talked about the Browns 379 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: in this game in a way that I think set 380 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: a tone for Pittsburgh. And you know, it's like everyone 381 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: wanted to wonder ken Pittsburgh's offensive line do this so 382 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: that their offensive line I thought helped them win this game. 383 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: Cleveland made key mistakes, which if you go track Cleveland's games, 384 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: they have they have issues with penalties, they have issues 385 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: with key mistakes. That came from Jarvis Landry today with 386 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: a terrible fumble caused by former Brown Joe scho Schobert 387 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 1: uh oh b J who is just lost in this offense. 388 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: Had one catch for six yards and you're you nailed 389 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: it with Chris Bobs while going out early on a 390 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: fake field goal past attempt that went totally awry, knocked 391 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: out of the game. And I think Pittsburgh showed we 392 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: can rally around anything that happens to us, not only 393 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: in the microcosm of this game, but in the macro 394 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 1: cosm of this season where they came in with weaknesses 395 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: and you see them getting a little bit better each 396 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: week and they they're figuring out how to win, and 397 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: they were the better team today, no questions about it. Um. 398 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: I think it leaves the Browns in a really rough spot. 399 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: And I you know, look at UM, I understand that 400 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: someone like Myles garrett A who has ten and a 401 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: half sacks and leads the league in sacks, um likes 402 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: to have fun with putting gravestones in his yard and 403 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: walking into the stadium with a cape about every quarterback 404 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: he's sacked. But that's not what it's about. Their formed 405 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: four and they couldn't get it done. And you know 406 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: this is not a Baker Mayfield lost the game type 407 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: of game, but it was a total team melt where 408 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: guys like Nick chubb Um didn't do what he normally does. 409 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: They got away from who they were. They've done that 410 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: in a couple of their losses, and I you know, 411 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: talk if I had a hat on, I take my 412 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: hat off to the Pittsburgh Steelers because I think they 413 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: basically nullified and and largely erased what happened last January 414 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: by telling Cleveland you're still not us man. I mean, 415 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: I I still I know it hurts today and it's things, 416 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: but it's take that playoff, win and run. I mean 417 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: that that is a memory that you know that that's 418 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: something that I know Mark saying. What Mark saying is 419 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: that what happened in January was supposed to be the 420 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: springboard to the start of a whole new era, not 421 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: just for the Browns but in this rival reef so 422 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: to be right back where we are now, that is annoying. 423 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: It is it also like comes down sometimes too. You 424 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: know it's more than one play, but the way that 425 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: the Steelers offenses, if you know friar Muth made a 426 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: unreal catch on that fourth down, you know the Browns 427 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: might win that game if if friar Muth this this 428 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: rookie made a couple of big catches like that in 429 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: that first preseason game I remember, yeah, I think that 430 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: was that the Hall of Fame game I don't even remember. 431 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: And here he is showing up like hasn't been huge 432 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: this year. But if he doesn't make that catch, I 433 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: don't know if the Steelers go score another touchdown in 434 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: this game. This was a defensive game. Did you have 435 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: there was some There was some Mike Tomlins sound um marketing. Yeah, 436 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: let's let's throw that on there. Let's see it. His mentality. 437 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: He plays like we got no kicker anyway, He's Ohio 438 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: boy man, he trying to win when he comes home. See, 439 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: Like I would just say one thing, I really I 440 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: like that. Common reason I wanted to play that was 441 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: because he basically said, you know, he said, Big Ben 442 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: plays like we don't have a kicker all the time, 443 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: and this isn't the old Big Ben, but um, it 444 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: felt like the old Brown Steelers games to me in 445 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: many ways. And back in the past, before we did this, 446 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: I would go after a game like this and watch 447 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: like three movies back to back to back in like 448 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: a discount movie theater, you know, and start to think 449 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: that there are still great books to read. There are 450 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: still things to do, there are still luscious people out 451 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: on the street. But um, I had a four John 452 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: and watched like a Washington football team game in the 453 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: middle of this, I was in a hot, irritated mood 454 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: in my garage. I don't want to feel this way again. 455 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: They unplugged me. I'm not doing this again, nobody. Nobody's 456 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: gonna have a camper next door. You see what's going on. 457 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go right over there after this. Um, nobody's 458 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: ever gonna feel sorry for us, because we're very lucky 459 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: to do what we do for a living. But I 460 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: will say this, like and Mark, you are just like me, uh, 461 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: super passionate about our team, and it kind of sticks 462 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: with you more than you know. You're a typical sports fan. 463 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: Just put it that way. And when we have a 464 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: particularly bad loss for our teams, like for me last 465 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: week with the Patriots Jets game, with this game, when 466 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: you have to stay locked in the NFL world for 467 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: another nine hours and talk about it on a podcast 468 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: that people listen to, that is that's the hardest. That 469 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: is the hardest part of an otherwise amazing job. Yeah, 470 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: Like I like I tweeted something that I really felt, 471 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: um in the middle of this nonsense, and also at 472 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: one point I did predict correctly that Jim Nance and 473 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: Tony Romo would be highly annoying. Um. Jim Nance had 474 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: his little Halloween like, is this gonna be a trick 475 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: or a treat for Pittsburgh on a play where they're 476 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: going like forty five yards to the end zone. I mean, 477 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: but I basically said, female assassin, don't walk run because 478 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: this this basically again, I'm not getting involved with this 479 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: team for a long time. I come out there. It 480 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: doesn't imagine Mark doing a trick or treat and I 481 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: with the kids just like, just take the amend joy, 482 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: just take it right work. But I saw. I don't 483 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: know if it's true or if I miss reddicks that 484 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: popped up real quick quick on my tweet deck, but 485 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: I think the Browns are Owen six on robo Nance games. 486 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: I told you like it is it is they are. 487 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: It boils down to this. They try to shove the 488 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: Browns into the big moment and outside of the playoff game, 489 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: they are not ready for the big moment. You gotta 490 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: go back and figure out who you are right now. 491 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: You are floating. I think these two teams just quickly 492 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: are similar though, Which is that the a f C 493 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: is a morass right now? This is this like lower 494 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: wild card group is just a big jumble, and they 495 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: all got a shot and probably none of them are 496 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: real super Bowl contenders. And they're both in that mix. 497 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: You know, the Steelers are now in that mix. You 498 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: can't say that they're morass. Is a great way to 499 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: describe it. So great that an insane person like me 500 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: thinks about my Jets team and I'm like, hey, if 501 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: we could beat the Cults on Thursday, yea sloppy down 502 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: to get some magic. Look that you see how quickly 503 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: they wrote me back in. All right, Mark, I'm sorry 504 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: that this game turned out the way it did, but 505 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: hopefully brighter days ahead. Uh, let's toss to a break 506 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: and then get to that. Jets classic takes the snap, 507 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: drops back, looks like, looks laugh, fires in the crop. 508 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: He's got it. That's a Jet touchdown. Tyler croft on alone. 509 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: Mike White finds him for the go ahead scar with 510 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: three unbelievable Oh yeah, Rick, you gave me the fong goes. 511 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm back, I'm back, I'm back, I'm back. I'm back, 512 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: I'm back. I wish I could put you New York Jets. 513 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: Bob was Shusan the call where w E p n 514 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: he's a great played by blay guy. We don't get 515 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: the heir a lot from him on the show Mike eight. 516 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: Mike White threw for four hundred and five yards and 517 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: three touchdowns and caught a two point conversion pass on 518 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: a Philly special Marquis Uh the go ahead score and 519 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: two point conversion and the Jets come back from two 520 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: scores down late in the fourth quarter to to beat 521 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: the Bengals thirty four to thirty one at the Meadowlands. 522 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: Another building, it was going off. And I'll tell you 523 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: why that building was going nuts. At MetLife Stadium today 524 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: it has been and I was talking to Keith Hansas 525 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: about this after the game that it was. It was 526 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: the rare, such a special win, uh and memorable one 527 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: that you got a call that it's not just it's 528 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: not a text one, it's a call. And if you 529 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: aside from the two thousand fifteen Ryan Fitzpatrick ten in 530 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: six season that didn't even produce a playoff bid, that 531 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: was the last time anything like remotely special happened um 532 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: with the Jets, a game that was true memorable. I 533 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: know there were little flickers of hope in the Sam 534 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: Donald earra, but nothing truly memorable for anyone outside of 535 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: Jets fans. This is a straight up, like great, like 536 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: classic Jets win and it's been so long since it's happened. 537 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: And the fact that it was Mike White, a guy 538 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: that's just a complete unknown, a former fifth round pick 539 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: out of a non big time school, bounced around, was 540 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, didn't make that team, lands with the Jets, 541 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: and for him to just kind of be fearless in 542 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: this game, uh, was really something special to watch. Mark. 543 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: You grabbed this game in the draft because I was 544 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: on a break, uh. And that break lasted as long 545 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: as the first Jets strive when they scored their first 546 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: touchdown of the season in the first quarter, and I said, okay, 547 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: they look like they actually showed up to play a 548 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: football game. And that's exactly how it played out and 549 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: they gotta win as a result. Yeah. And I had this, 550 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, late in the fourth quarter at a text 551 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: um the I was gonna send a Dan and said, 552 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: why don't you know, I'm I covered this, and I'm 553 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: happy to chime in, but this is a this is 554 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: something greatst happening here. Do you want to maybe have 555 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: your thoughts out there? Obviously? Um, And then I was like, 556 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: wait when do I send this? Because I waited until 557 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: it was completely over because it was such a bizarre game, 558 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: But I I thought that it had a special feel 559 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: to it early on. By the way, it's supposed to 560 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: be fun watching your team, UM play a sport at 561 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: least once in a while, and the Jets fans have 562 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: made that real tough. But Mike White was kind of like, 563 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: I don't care about the history of the Jets. I 564 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: don't care that no one in Jets history has thrown 565 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: for four hundred yards and three hundred and twenty seven 566 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: games since Vinny Testaverdi did it before the Y two 567 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: K scare. It's like, let's make this thing enjoyable for 568 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: Jets fans. He starts eleven for eleven. At one point 569 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: he hit another nine in a row. He went totally 570 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: off and they pan over to Joe Flack on the sideline. 571 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: It's like, why did you sign that guy? Mike White 572 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: is gonna start on Thursday night number one? He should 573 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: I'd like the idea that Mike lafle Or is up 574 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: in the booth they kept. They kind of said that 575 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: they thought that made a difference in this game, that 576 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: he was just where an O C should be where 577 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: you know, totally get it that when Zach Wilson, a 578 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, is there, he's down on the sideline with 579 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: him and stuff. But it just seemed like the offense 580 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: found a little bit of a comfort zone. I also 581 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,479 Speaker 1: thought real quick that and early goal line stuff by 582 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: the Jets after a Jesse Bates interception where this thing 583 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: could have gone totally off the rails, basically showed me 584 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: that this Jets team is still playing really hard for 585 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: Robert sala Um. The defense I thought showed some spice. 586 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: They made plays down the stretch. Burrow had a killer 587 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: interception late. By the way, that's his fifth fourth quarter 588 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: pick this year. It leads the NFL. He's been awesome, 589 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: but it has been an issue for him. And you know, 590 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: the Bengals could have won this in a variety of 591 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: ways to but the Jets refused to stop fighting. And 592 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: look at they've beaten the Titans, they've beaten the Bengals. 593 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: So when you talk about them is on the fringe 594 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: of the playoff race. It's not because they knocked out 595 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: to total Uh, you know, go most Ham and Eggers 596 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: like they are not they are. Something about them can 597 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: be a little spicy. You'd like it to have been 598 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: with Zach Wilson. It was with Mike White. Take it. 599 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: How about sala After the game, they asked him, you know, 600 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,959 Speaker 1: is what's going on with Mike White going forward? Does 601 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: he have a chance here to to run with this? 602 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: And of course this is not this is Zach Wilson's team, 603 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: But Salad at least said, hey, you never know, well, 604 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: you know he's gonna, of course play on Thursday. Anything 605 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: can happen, Anything can happen. Could Mike White be the 606 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: franchise copies like anything can happen? Yeah, I like that answer. 607 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: If it's not gonna, you know, be the case. Most likely, 608 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: maybe Mike White comes down to Earth Greg as soon 609 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: as three days from now. But you can't take away 610 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: in this game from him or the Jets of the fans. 611 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: This is the most first downs they've had the Jets 612 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: in a game since nineteen eighties six I saw, I mean, 613 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: this was completely out of this world. And what does 614 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: it say about Cincinnati, Greg, I mean it says um 615 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: that Spice Rack had a beat on them, being like, oh, 616 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna lose this game. I was like, what it 617 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: was like? You mean cover? Its like now he's they're 618 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: gonna They're gonna lose. I think they're gonna lose straight up. 619 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: They can't handle like a situation like this that that's 620 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: shocking to me. But it's shocking the way it happened 621 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: that they give up over five yards thirty two first 622 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: downs the Jets have. You know, they the Jets lost 623 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: the turnover battle by two and they won the game, 624 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: which is, you know, extremely rare in the NFL and 625 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: usually only happens if you're like a vastly superior operation. 626 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: It's wild. Flacco is so pissed right now. That's all 627 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,479 Speaker 1: I could think about it, because in his quotes on Friday, 628 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: he was like, oh, I came here to play, And 629 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: I was like, well, you should have come here on 630 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,479 Speaker 1: Wednesday then, or you know, right after you got traded, 631 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: because you would have played I think this week if 632 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: he had showed up. But they really, um got some 633 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: good fortune to have Mike White play because we don't. 634 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: We don't need to see Joe Flacco on Thursday night. 635 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: That's for sure. We will not. And yeah, like I said, 636 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: MetLife Stadium was jumping and they were chanting Mike White, 637 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: Mike White, Mike I you know what, the football gods. 638 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: I feel like a bone was thrown to me and 639 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: many other of Jets fans. Don't give up, hope. Uh, 640 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: you could still have fun watching your team. And I 641 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: had a lot of fun watching the Jets bad Bengals, 642 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: because it's one thing. I mean, any of the loss 643 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: to the Jets is bad, but what do they have 644 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: a ten point lead in the fourth quarter At some 645 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: point they were in total control of this game, and 646 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: they just they let it slip away. All right? Now, 647 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: the team that destroyed the Jets last week, Uh, they 648 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,959 Speaker 1: were on the road here in Los Angeles and they 649 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 1: continued to look like a playoff team. Shotgun snap to Herbert, 650 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: is interesting that my Phillips prizes from the tower runts 651 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: left side ten five pick six can sucking an acemption 652 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: of the day. That's a touchdown for the Patriots. I 653 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: like this. We're just rolling through all all our teams 654 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: in our row. Um, Bob Sochy with Zolac grunting like 655 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: a set essention gatorade bottle in the background. W b 656 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: Z safety Adrian Phillips intercepted two passes against this former team, 657 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: returned one of them for the go ahead touchdown. Is 658 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: the Patriots rally to win over the Chargers? You know, 659 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: I felt so good about the Jets that didn't even 660 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: bother me that the Patriots ended my lock streak by 661 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: beating up on the Chargers team that might not be 662 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: actually that good anyway, Greg, It's become the go to cliche. 663 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: That's fine. It's become the go to cliche of the 664 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: post Brady Patriots whenever they have a nice win. Hey, 665 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: that was a vintage Patriots style win for Belichick, but 666 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: this kind of was. It was because, you know, they 667 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: got contributions from all three phases. Their quarterback didn't play well, 668 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: that's not too vince. I thought this was what Mono 669 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: mac Jones is worst games. My My biggest takeaway was 670 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: that they had seventy place for the Chargers before the 671 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: Chargers went on a ten play kind of garbage time drive. 672 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: I guess it's the defense they cooked up. Justin Herbert 673 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: pretty good after a couple of early touchdowns by the Chargers. 674 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: They had four three and outs forced and a four 675 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: and out and two interceptions uh in their neck like 676 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: seven out of the next eight drives. But it wasn't 677 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: like a game I looked at where I felt that 678 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: much different about the Patriots. The two interceptions that they 679 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: had were both either drops or miscommunications by the Chargers. 680 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: Kind of felt like a lucky bounce game relatively not 681 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: to get like not to put too much damper on it, 682 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: but just like they look like the same fine team 683 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: that they've been greg Like, I asked you real quick 684 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: because if you look at I think we all think 685 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: that obviously Justin Herbert is like already a star and 686 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: all those things. But last two games, he's completion percentage, 687 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: three touchdowns, three picks. I mean, obviously it troubles against 688 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: Baltimore today, you know, not a pristine effort. Like, does 689 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: does it concern you at all that people are just 690 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 1: getting more tape on him? Or is it just like 691 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: not at all? Just keep rolling. He's gonna be no 692 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit with how they're you know, 693 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: defending him a lot of like changing the snaps post look, 694 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: a lot of blitzing. Uh. The offensive line did not 695 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: handle like the pressure that they sent. They got after 696 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: Herbert pretty good. But like I said, the two interceptions, 697 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: one was a drop by Ekeler and the other one 698 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: was like the classic Jared Cook play of all Cook plays. 699 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: Like you know, I have like a text thread of 700 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: just like another friend who like finds it funny that 701 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: Cook Cook just like always ruins the teams. He's on 702 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: a couple of games the year, and like there was 703 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: a game where he had a penalty where he took 704 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,240 Speaker 1: away the game winning touch done for the Chargers earlier, 705 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: and this was one where he just didn't turn around 706 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: and pretty sure it was on him and that was 707 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: the pick six. Not not to take away what the 708 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: Patriots did well in this game because mac Jones hit 709 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: a couple of throws deep. He really struggled in the 710 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 1: first half and got it together in the second half, 711 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: which was nice to see because he was eight for 712 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: twenty two at halftime in this game. And they ran 713 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: the ball. They settled on an offensive line, like they 714 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: are a physical team. They know what they want to 715 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: be and there four and four and when they get 716 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: the right game plan defensively, like they can make problems. 717 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: They got Carolina next, Like, that's a chance to go 718 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: to find four. We we talked about, you know, the 719 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: idea of Belichick, um, you know, beginning to trust mac 720 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: Jones more. You saw things earlier in the season and 721 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: how they they gain planned and how they handled certain 722 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: down and distant situations when it was very clear that 723 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: he was a rookie quarterback that they had on a 724 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: tight leash. And this game was interesting to me because 725 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: I feel like they were throwing more than they should, 726 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: especially early in the game, and Mac Jones just didn't 727 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: have it. I think that's why I was kind of 728 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 1: impressed by the Patriots to be able to go on 729 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: the road, even though it's like forty thou Patriots fans 730 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: at Sophie Stadium, including Ricky Hollywood, to get a kind 731 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 1: of relatively bad game from your quarterback and still find 732 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: a way to win. That's impressive to me. And I 733 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: think in an a f C, I still think it's 734 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: the Bill's division, Um, even though I don't think they're 735 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: without any concerns right now either, but I think this 736 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna win that division. But I think the Patriots 737 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: are absolutely a team that needs to be seriously viewed 738 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: as a wild card contender. And on the Charger side 739 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: of the things, you know, in in four their seven 740 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: games they have twenty points, seventeen points, six points. They 741 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: had twenty four in this game, but it's really seventeen. 742 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 1: That was a garbage time kind of a miracle catch 743 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: at the end. So it has been a little hot 744 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 1: and cold at this offense. And of course they the 745 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 1: game before this two games skid. They put up forty 746 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: seven against the Browns and looked invincible. But there's some 747 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: inconsistencies here that if you're a Charger's van, it's on 748 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: your radar at this point. Uh, the offense specifically, it 749 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: took Herbert making some great plays against pressure to get 750 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: those touchdowns early to like there's not much in the 751 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: flow of the offense. You're you're right it. I thought 752 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: the Patriots would wind up blowing this because when it 753 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: was fourteen thirteen or seventeen sixteen Chargers, it was like 754 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: the Patriots felt like they should have been up by twenty. 755 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: They had a first and goal at the two or 756 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: at the four, and then um, you know, third and 757 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: goal at the two. Couldn't get that and kept throwing 758 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: the ball, like you mentioned, had another time inside the 759 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: ten where they settled for a field goal and then 760 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: fumbled the ball on the way into a potential other touchdown. 761 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: It like felt like they should have been steamrolling, and 762 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: yet the Chargers like could not muster anything. I am curious, Ricky, 763 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: you you were at the game. You are, I don't 764 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: see you here, But what was what was that experience 765 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: like there? It sounded like a like a Patriots crowd. 766 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: It was a Patriots crowd for sure. The stadium wasn't 767 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: even sold out, and I mean, granted it's such a 768 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 1: big stadium, but I have a feeling that if it 769 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: was a Rams game, it would have been. Yeah. I 770 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 1: mean everyone, first of all, everyone talks about how like 771 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: amazing that stadium is, and you you don't realize it 772 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: until you're in it, Like it is absolutely unreal with 773 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 1: that that screen that they talked about. I mean, there's 774 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: not a bad seat in the house. So I was 775 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: just so blown away by even being in it um 776 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,280 Speaker 1: and it like a Pat's home game. I was super 777 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: excited to see Justin Herbert and like you just sort 778 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: of said, I was like, this kid is like the 779 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: real deal, and it just kind of felt like they 780 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: couldn't get it going, which was great for me. I 781 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: had a ball the best day. He's missed a lot 782 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: of throws lately, He's missed makable throw. Even though the 783 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: two picks weren't on him. In this game, he did not. 784 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,839 Speaker 1: I don't think he played well in this game. Um. 785 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it was nice of jet Um to 786 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: keep calling mac Jones fat Jones and that he was 787 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: blowing the Patriots game. And did she text you that? 788 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: Because she was saying that you you were texted. You 789 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: texted me that, but you were probably drunk at the time, 790 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: you know, since yeah, I don't remember, Ricky, Like, what 791 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 1: did you purchase at the concession stand? Was there any 792 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: notable sort of sofie? Yeah? No, I just got bottled 793 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: water Mark, Yeah, Um bottled water and this and it 794 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: probably was like the glory days of when Ricky was 795 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: a team age. You're watching the fourth quarter because, as 796 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 1: someone who had a front row seat to this hocum 797 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: for years, they get the big play on defense, the 798 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 1: pick six to to go ahead, and then really they 799 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,280 Speaker 1: go on the four teen play, fifty four yard, seven 800 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 1: minute field goal drive that ends the game, and they 801 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: do over and over. Just oh, we're staying in bounds, 802 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 1: were making the right decisions. That was That was that 803 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: was the drive that made me feel good. That was 804 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: like a lot of a lot of running a lot 805 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: of Patriots. That was Yeah, that was very on brand. 806 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: So anyway, if you're a Pats fan, you're feeling good. 807 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: The glory days are gone. They're not coming back because 808 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: Tom's not here. But you have a team. I think 809 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: that's gonna be relevant in December. And if you're a 810 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: Chargers fan, it's okay. I mean, I want to Jude 811 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: on Jersey. I'm just putting that out there. You have 812 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: a what Jude on Jersey? I'm gonna I might go 813 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 1: bar more Man. I love me some Christian Barnment. I'm 814 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: just saying that he is the he is the best 815 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: interior defensive player they have drafted since I don't know, 816 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: at least a decade. I can't think of it. They 817 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 1: haven't had anyone. He's he's good, he's ricky. I need 818 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: you to go um like the full red sleeves underneath 819 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,760 Speaker 1: the judea on Jersey if you go down that road, Yeah, definitely. 820 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 1: All right, Let's now move on another uh, Division matchup 821 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: in the NFC Panthers Falcon somebody how to win. We 822 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: can go shopping after we go to Brooks Brothers, Mark 823 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 1: will be fine. Wilmore and Jackson the corners. Matt Ryan 824 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: in the shotgun with Davis to his left, asked for 825 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: the snap. He's got it. Davis stays into block. Ryan 826 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: hit over the medal. Gilmore at the fifteen yard line. 827 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 1: Old friend up New England Patriots. Stephan Gilmore makes the 828 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: big play the Panthers and that's mcmixon of w BT 829 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: the Panthers. Panthers leaned on their defense to snap a 830 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: nasty losing streaks. Jack Thompson was a star in his 831 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: return to the lineup, and Steph Gilmore had the game 832 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: ceiling interception in his Carolina debut in nineteen win over 833 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 1: the Falcons. This was a I mean, I wouldn't say 834 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: that I enjoyed this game. And this game was happening 835 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: at the same time as the Jets were playing their 836 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: first like fun game and about you know, thirty seven 837 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 1: years uh So was I enthralled by what was going 838 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: on in Atlanta? No, but I was tracking it. And 839 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: I will give Carolina credit here for getting off the 840 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 1: mat here and like I said, it's because there d 841 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: because Sam Donald he goes out with a concussion in 842 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: this game. But they're not really moving the ball uh 843 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,359 Speaker 1: much at all, at least through the air. Uh. They 844 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 1: lean on their run ground that went over a run 845 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: game that went over two hundred yards uh, led by 846 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: Chuba Hubbard who overcame an early fumble and finished with 847 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 1: eighty two yards and a touchdown. Donald had sixty six 848 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: yards himself. But yes, it was the defense that shut 849 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: down the Falcons. I mean, this is Matt Ryan's one 850 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: of the worst games I've seen from Matt Ryan ever. 851 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: A hundred and forty six yards passing. He was sacked 852 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 1: three times, he got his hand stepped on. It was 853 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: gushing blood at one point. Super gross and HALLOWEENI and 854 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: the Falcons finished finished Mark with two d and thirteen 855 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: yards of total offense. So Caroline is d steps up 856 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,800 Speaker 1: and gets it done. You know, I wonder like with 857 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: Atlanta Limited, because you've got Calvin Ridley out and he 858 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: you know, he's tweeted about the fact that he's dealing 859 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,879 Speaker 1: with um, you know, working on some mental health stuff's 860 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: he's been unavailable and they don't know when he's gonna 861 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 1: come back. That obviously helped UM put an extra guy 862 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 1: on Kyle Pitts, like his torrid pace slowed down a 863 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: little bit. And when you mentioned like Carolina is just 864 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: gonna need to win with their defense, and you know, 865 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,720 Speaker 1: like Shack Thompson coming back just the way he's been playing. 866 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: I look at some of their that you know, they 867 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,959 Speaker 1: were coming off a four game losing streak. They lost 868 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: to the Eagles, UM, a pretty junkie team by three points. 869 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: They got nipped by the Vikings at the end. I 870 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 1: just wonder if their fortunes be a little it different 871 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 1: if he had been available, because he wasn't in in 872 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: those games. UM. But yeah, I think you are what 873 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 1: you are with the with the pandas at this point 874 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 1: because when before Donald left with was it a concussion? 875 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: Like you know, he didn't have the ugly turnovers, but 876 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 1: you're still getting the Donald experience. With the endless wide 877 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: receiver drops, they're not helping him at all. Nine yards 878 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 1: with four throws, they ran the ball forty seven times 879 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: and through it, which I think rule basically said that 880 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: it was a close game. You know it, rule said 881 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: after the game, this is what I should have done 882 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: last week, so you knew he's desperate to get away 883 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 1: from Sam Donald and you know, uh so that's just 884 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: where they are now since the Falcons. And if you 885 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: have that defense, and if you have Zane Gonzalez hitting 886 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: fifty yard bombs over and over, it was kind of 887 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: a kicker game. Coo coo missed a short one. Yeah, 888 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,360 Speaker 1: And you know, Christian McCaffrey I believe is eligible to 889 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: come off uh the injured reserve next week. So if 890 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 1: if he's back, you know, with Stephan Gilmore now on 891 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 1: this defense, with Shaq Oompson back from the foot injury 892 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: and playing well, you can again start to look at 893 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 1: Caroline as a team that maybe has a run in 894 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 1: them and and can go for a playoff spot. But 895 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,879 Speaker 1: that's where I stand on them. I don't they don't 896 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: while me, they don't excite me. Uh and Donald keeps 897 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: the ceiling on this thing. But hopefully he's okay and 898 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: they get back on track here. Atlanta, I mean we 899 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: I think you set it up Mark on our TV 900 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: show on on Saturday that Atlanta was sexy now and 901 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: all this stuff. I tell you, I didn't buy it. 902 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 1: And I said, Arthur name Arthur Smith. I know, but 903 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 1: you and about they were becoming fun to watch. It 904 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: is all I'm asking for. Apparently not when they play 905 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: the Panthers. I mean is not in there too, But 906 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: I know, but they've been fine with that. Redley, he 907 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 1: hasn't done anything all year, and I'm just trying to 908 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 1: build a case Greg for you as well. But being 909 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: the Falcons are one of those teams like, all right, 910 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:56,879 Speaker 1: if you don't have if you cook up a good 911 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: game plan against Matt Ryan at this stage, it can 912 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: get really ugly and things get slowed down and they 913 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: become very hard to watch. So that's where we were again. 914 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 1: With Atlanta was more like the beginning of the year. 915 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: So I think I just froze up because the TV 916 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: lights were on me. It was too big of a stage, 917 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 1: and I started to say crazy things. Anyway, Carolina back 918 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 1: on track. We'll see if Donald will be ready and 919 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey as well when they play again. All right, 920 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: in other realms, let's head to Soldier Field, where the 921 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: Niners are trying to get off a losing schneide. She 922 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: ain soon she a first ate twice. Nothing is shin. 923 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 1: Jerry Rapatos got a second touchdown of the game, touchdown 924 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: said France, just go here. You gotta see, you know, 925 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 1: break popping. Tim Ryan for k N b R has 926 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 1: been a lot of fun watching the Niners for large 927 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 1: swats of this season, so when they get hot like 928 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 1: they did on Sunday at Soldier Field, you can enjoy it. 929 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo through for three two ran for two touchdowns 930 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,240 Speaker 1: the Niners beat Bears team missing their coach Met Naggy 931 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: and other players including Khalil Macko. That ends the four 932 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 1: game losing streak for the Niners, and San Francisco just 933 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: got scorching hot on offense. This is what we've been 934 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: waiting for. That was expected of San Francisco. I believe 935 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,879 Speaker 1: they scored um five straight times in the second half. 936 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: Garoppolo led three touchdown drives in the second half, another 937 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,320 Speaker 1: possession ended with a field goal, and when he scored 938 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 1: on that run um in the fourth quarter to put 939 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,319 Speaker 1: San Francisco head thirty two, he fired the ball up 940 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: in the stands and you could tell a wight had 941 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: been lifted. Often because everybody knew the pressure was really 942 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,839 Speaker 1: on at this point, and Kyle Shannahan even said as much. 943 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,839 Speaker 1: Mark after the game. Uh, Shannah had said coming back home, 944 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 1: this is Garoppolo's from Illinois, his back against the wall. Uh. 945 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: For him to step up and play the way he 946 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,280 Speaker 1: did today was huge. So with Tray Lance maybe waiting 947 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: in the wings, Garoppolo definitely bought himself some more time 948 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: in the starting lineup well and maybe limited um. The 949 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: idea that a trade Lance package today like near in 950 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 1: the red zone running um could become bigger and you know, 951 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,320 Speaker 1: it's something to just become a larger part of the 952 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 1: offense until he just inevitably starts, and he will. But 953 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 1: there's something still a little depressing about it because we 954 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 1: already understand that Jimmy g is you know, he's fading, 955 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: he's on the way out, and it's sort of it's 956 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: it's nice to see him play well and they needed it. 957 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 1: They needed this. Um. It's still just delays. But I 958 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: mean see when you watch this game, you'll see there's 959 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 1: it was huge because it wasn't like, you know, a mirrage. 960 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,280 Speaker 1: It felt like, okay, maybe this is because you remember Garoppolo. 961 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 1: He's always been kind of hot and cold since that 962 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,799 Speaker 1: initial Roman San Francisco. But he could get in these 963 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,760 Speaker 1: grooves in the Shanahan era where he would look really 964 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 1: good and be moving the offense. And it kind of 965 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 1: reminded me a little bit of that. So let's see, 966 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 1: maybe this is something they build on. Maybe he's healthier now, 967 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 1: and you know, he wasn't playing in the rain last 968 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: week with a bad calf. Maybe he gets on some 969 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,920 Speaker 1: type of run here. I thought it was extremely um 970 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 1: big in a again a wide open playoff race. He's 971 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 1: probably one bad start away from getting benched because Ian 972 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 1: Ravaport gave him the kiss of death Sunday morning. Uh, 973 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 1: news bomb. That's like Trey Lance's time maybe coming, which 974 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 1: is like he's getting benched today if he struggles the 975 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: first three quarters. Uh. You know he did get you know, 976 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 1: an a d yard touchdown on like a swing pass 977 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: the Deebo Samuel where Debo does all the work. Uh. 978 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: And Samuel is now just putting together a season that's 979 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,840 Speaker 1: relatively under the radar, considering he has more yards in 980 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,360 Speaker 1: his first um what is it seven games than Jerry 981 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,919 Speaker 1: Rice ever had. Uh. And it's just at an outrageous 982 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,879 Speaker 1: pace right now. Like he he is a top three 983 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 1: receiver in terms of production and just the beast if 984 00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,040 Speaker 1: they can just get kittled back, then you know, the 985 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 1: average over eight yards for play. I know Khalio Mac 986 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: wasn't there, but that's impressive against any NFL defense, especially 987 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: a decent one like the It does sound like it 988 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 1: was Justin Field's um finest performance. I mean, you know, 989 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 1: doing kind of everything you'd want Justin Fields to do. 990 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 1: You saw elements of it. Is that true? Yeah? There 991 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 1: was a he ran for a hundred yards in this game. 992 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 1: He had some nice plays as a passer as well. 993 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,800 Speaker 1: And of course everybody going nuts on Twitter because Matt Naggy, 994 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 1: he's got the COVID. Uh, So he wasn't around to 995 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,839 Speaker 1: be involved with what was the best start of Justin 996 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: fields pro career to this point. So you kind of 997 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 1: damned if you do either way because this Yeah, he 998 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 1: held on his win loss record exactly exactly. But there 999 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 1: was a there was the first kind of eye opening Okay, 1000 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 1: here we are this could be something moment, uh, and 1001 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 1: it got them. It should have tied the game, but 1002 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 1: there was a missed extra point but it was a 1003 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 1: fourth and one and uh kind of a botched uh 1004 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 1: play execution initially, and then Fields with his athleticism was 1005 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: able to dodge some tacklers reverse field and not only 1006 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 1: convert the uh fourth down on a bus at play, 1007 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 1: but getting the end zone. And it was just like, WHOA, Okay, 1008 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,720 Speaker 1: this guy, this is why he's special, why he's highly touted, 1009 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 1: why he was the first round pick. So hopefully there's 1010 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 1: something to build off there for the Bears, and hopefully 1011 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,279 Speaker 1: Matt Nagy, wherever he was on Sunday, saw the things 1012 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 1: that worked and so it doesn't didn't work and maybe 1013 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,319 Speaker 1: learn from it and it isn't too hard headed about things, 1014 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 1: although I think he's kind of a hard headed dude. 1015 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens whenever. Naggy Now he's like Kingsbury. 1016 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 1: He was already working on the next pot. He's very competitive, 1017 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 1: I think. Any and we we've we had one little 1018 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 1: running I'm not gonna get into details where he seemed 1019 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 1: a little peeved Matt Nage that another head coach was 1020 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 1: in the room and just like that guy over there 1021 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 1: thinks he's so great. It's like, whoa, these guys are 1022 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,920 Speaker 1: you know? There? Um, they're temperamental. But do you think 1023 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 1: that he actually was doing the Kingsbury thing or was 1024 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 1: he watching the game like I would just watch the game. 1025 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 1: But I think you revealed a little too much of 1026 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 1: that story. But I also we could keep it right 1027 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 1: there and let people, you know, put a pin in it. 1028 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,880 Speaker 1: I've never I don't even that's that's just do that. 1029 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 1: It's up you know, Nagat Can. We'll see if he 1030 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,760 Speaker 1: brings it up when he's you know, working at NFL Network. 1031 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,799 Speaker 1: And that sounded means, oh my goodness. All right, let's 1032 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 1: head back to the a f C East where the 1033 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 1: Dolphins and Bills did battle. Alan Takes gonna throw it 1034 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 1: down the middle, caught my digs at the five cruisers 1035 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: into the end tone touchdown Buffalo. Stefon digs On nineteen 1036 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,240 Speaker 1: yards strike from Josh Allen, touchdown. Bills having an annoying 1037 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,839 Speaker 1: fantasy season and I got Stefon Diggs and he's driving 1038 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 1: me crazy good. He scored tonight at forty yards. Every game? 1039 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: What are we doing? He's supposed to have a hundred 1040 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 1: nineteen catches for fifteen hundred yards and thirty seven touchdowns 1041 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,840 Speaker 1: for me, That's why I drafted him. He'll save it. 1042 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,839 Speaker 1: I think it's coming. I think the explosions coming. John 1043 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 1: Murphy with the call w g R. Josh Allen lad 1044 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,240 Speaker 1: the Bills on scoring drives in each of the Bill's 1045 00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,360 Speaker 1: final I believe five possessions a late flurry of scoring 1046 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 1: that was more than enough against the feckless Dolphins. Final 1047 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: score Bills twenty six, Fish eleven, Buffalo stays ahead and 1048 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 1: the AFC East. The Dolphins are on a seven game 1049 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,280 Speaker 1: losing streak. All low now in the seller in the division. 1050 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 1: Greg Buffalo took a while to get going here, but 1051 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,880 Speaker 1: they took care of business. I thought it showed maturity 1052 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 1: from Josh Allen. You know, he keeps checking these boxes 1053 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,280 Speaker 1: as he gets older. He they had five first downs 1054 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 1: in their first five drives. They were dominated. I mean, 1055 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 1: Miami was handing it to them. H He was so frustrated. 1056 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,359 Speaker 1: But after the first drive of the second half, because 1057 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 1: they just couldn't believe it. Miami should have had a lead. 1058 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: At that point it was still three three. Miami blew 1059 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 1: some chances, and then he kind of started taking what 1060 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 1: the defense would give him, whether it was his legs, 1061 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,760 Speaker 1: making good decisions on third and long. Beasley Cole Beasley 1062 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,759 Speaker 1: had a great week. He deleted his Twitter smart uh 1063 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,320 Speaker 1: and then he converted a third and fourteen, third and thirteen, 1064 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 1: got the jab a third and eleven. I don't know, Yeah, 1065 00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,400 Speaker 1: I don't think he got the job. I think that's 1066 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 1: why the to this twitter he was sick about here. 1067 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 1: He goes over a hundred yards and it's like just 1068 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,240 Speaker 1: every big play when you thought Miami could get a stop, 1069 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,800 Speaker 1: they just don't have a pass rush. Uh without blitzeeing 1070 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips, their first round pick hasn't done much and 1071 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 1: then when they do blitz Alan was figuring it out 1072 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 1: in the second half, and I just thought it, you know, 1073 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 1: as bad as it was for the first five drives 1074 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 1: or so, for him to kind of solve it and 1075 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,279 Speaker 1: then go touchdown, touchdown field, go touchdown to end, it's 1076 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,359 Speaker 1: pretty awesome. I view um greg and Cole Beasley as 1077 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,160 Speaker 1: sort of ideological twins, so you know, I thought that 1078 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,840 Speaker 1: it's a nice day for him. Is similar body types, 1079 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 1: no doubt. That's all I'm offering. No, that's all I'm offering. 1080 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I like I I you know what, the Dolphins, 1081 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 1: I'm a little I'm there there are another team that 1082 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 1: depresses me right now, and the Bills, like you know, 1083 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 1: have thumped this Dolphins team. So hard that people were like, oh, well, 1084 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 1: is it gonna be. It's not a good, great game 1085 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 1: because it's not thirty five to nothing. It's like, I 1086 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 1: I respect Buffalo working themselves out of the fix they 1087 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 1: were in earlier they were they were and it felt different. 1088 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:07,959 Speaker 1: It felt like a game. Even in the fourth quarter, 1089 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 1: you didn't know how it go and but Buffalo came 1090 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 1: through and we get you know, we're gonna get to 1091 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 1: the Texans a little bit later. But since the Dolphins 1092 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:18,280 Speaker 1: are connected directly to everything Deshaun Watson related, the report 1093 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 1: came out on Sunday morning that now the belief is 1094 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 1: that Deshaun Watson won't be changing teams ahead of the 1095 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 1: trade deadline on Tuesday. So just file that away with 1096 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,320 Speaker 1: two uh who will get most likely what he absolutely 1097 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 1: deserves and what the Dolphins should want, which is a 1098 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 1: full season audition and they're going nowhere there, one and 1099 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 1: seven now, So at least turned this season now over 1100 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 1: to a full developmental look at your young quarterback so 1101 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,359 Speaker 1: you could decide what you want to do next, even 1102 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 1: if that means bringing in a highly problematic pass are 1103 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:58,840 Speaker 1: currently wasting away in Houston. Um, all right, Buffalo in 1104 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 1: control of the division in the Pats getting better though, 1105 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 1: So a little heat there. Uh, let's take a break 1106 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 1: and then hit the rest of the games. Hurts gives 1107 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:17,720 Speaker 1: Buster Scott pushing hut Buster Scott, Buster Scott. It's so powerful, 1108 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 1: all right. Merril reads with the call, Nikki Shook joining 1109 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 1: us now. Technical difficulties took the man out, but the 1110 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 1: pipe always finds a way to bash his way back. 1111 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:34,120 Speaker 1: In Boston, Scott and Jordan Howard each scored two touchdowns 1112 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 1: on the ground in place of Miles Sanders. Uh and 1113 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,680 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles dominated the Lions in a forty four 1114 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 1: to six win on Sunday. Schookie, we talked about it 1115 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 1: on the around the NFL broadcast the Boys and I, 1116 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 1: uh have it was a little weird. Everyone was getting 1117 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 1: excited about this is the game, the Lions are gonna win. 1118 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 1: They did not even compete. What happened here? Yeah, I 1119 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 1: actually picked the Lions to win. That was a big 1120 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 1: failure on my part. Wasn't alone. I was not alone 1121 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 1: in that regard. Uh, they didn't really show up. Um, 1122 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, we've looked at this roster all year and 1123 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 1: seeing that, you know, it's pretty talent poor. They lack weapons. Offensively, 1124 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,400 Speaker 1: they they lack a lot of you know, blue chip 1125 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 1: level players across the roster, and it totally showed today. 1126 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 1: I mean, not only did they not show up, they 1127 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,280 Speaker 1: had nothing in the tank to really mount much of 1128 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 1: a comeback effort. I mean, before you know, a halftime 1129 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 1: at seventeen nothing and it felt like it was thirty 1130 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 1: five nothing. The Eagles dominated up front. They won the 1131 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,479 Speaker 1: battle of the trenches. A week after letting Kenyan Drake 1132 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 1: uh run down their throats for a touchdown against the 1133 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 1: Raiders and and kind of being the Lions in that 1134 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 1: game and getting you know, falling way behind and never 1135 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,880 Speaker 1: having a chance of coming back. Uh. They then became 1136 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 1: the team that was the aggressor and just dominated at 1137 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:52,960 Speaker 1: the point of attack on both sides of the ball. 1138 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,880 Speaker 1: They sacked Yared GoF five times to get to the 1139 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 1: point in the third quarter. I was like, man, if 1140 00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 1: there was an opportunity to to simulate to the end 1141 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 1: or to forfeit the remainder of this game, this is 1142 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 1: the game for this to happen. Let's get a running 1143 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 1: clock or something going. It was that lopsided. It was 1144 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 1: the worst showing of the Lions mat that Mark to 1145 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,640 Speaker 1: the competition committee. Years we've had we won't we have 1146 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,640 Speaker 1: games for just like a ten minute runoff at the 1147 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 1: end when they're just this this unfun to watch now 1148 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 1: and again you couch it Chookie as player safety, that's 1149 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,160 Speaker 1: what it's really about. But what it's really about is 1150 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,920 Speaker 1: jabronies like us being able to move on to the 1151 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 1: next game. Yeah, exactly pretty much. I mean, in a nutshell, 1152 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 1: it was. It was an unexciting affair. It was inspiring 1153 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 1: for the Eagles because they didn't have Miles Sanders and 1154 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 1: they ran the ball really well, um and he didn't 1155 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:42,800 Speaker 1: need too much from Jalen Hurts and he's fun to 1156 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,120 Speaker 1: watch no matter what. So, uh, you know, a nice 1157 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 1: little bounce back win for them, and I think a 1158 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 1: low point for these lines. I mean, the Lions have 1159 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,920 Speaker 1: been competitive in the majority of the games they've played. 1160 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 1: Today was not one of them. That's simple. And it's 1161 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 1: like a week ago they were, you know, tortured by 1162 00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. Darius Slay had a what a humble touchdown 1163 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,040 Speaker 1: in this um. There was a bit of a narrative 1164 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 1: killer for the Eagles after you know, we we were 1165 01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 1: gonna run the ball less than any team in NFL history. 1166 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 1: They had like two hundred and thirty six yards and 1167 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 1: it was a narrative killer. Uh for the listeners who 1168 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,840 Speaker 1: locked the Lions, Let's get your act together on on 1169 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,640 Speaker 1: these fronts. Let's think about what we're doing this. That's 1170 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 1: a collective group. There wasn't one single drunk person making 1171 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 1: a terrible, just you know, life decision. There's a group 1172 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,960 Speaker 1: of people that agreed on the Lions. Please. I think 1173 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,280 Speaker 1: we got sucked into and I didn't pick the lines, 1174 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,920 Speaker 1: but I see why it happened, because we got sucked 1175 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 1: into how hard this team is playing and how they 1176 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 1: seem to be, you know, playing their hearts out. And 1177 01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 1: the Eagles just seemed like a team that was ripe 1178 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,680 Speaker 1: to be picked off. But that's just not what happened. 1179 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 1: Chok No, it's it's the exact opposite of what happened. 1180 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,200 Speaker 1: And I was in the same train of thought, and 1181 01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,000 Speaker 1: I definitely wasn't drunk. Mark when I sent my in 1182 01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 1: on a Tuesday afternoon, give give Fletcher Cox like, uh, 1183 01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, a little love here, because you know, he 1184 01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,400 Speaker 1: basically went after the defensive coordinator Jonathan in and for 1185 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 1: like not being aggressive, not mixing things up, not blitzing, 1186 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 1: and you know, accordingy of the Philly reporters, they did 1187 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 1: all of that. So maybe, like maybe, maybe sometimes it 1188 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 1: takes like a player leader just be like, let's go, 1189 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 1: let's go, especially a player who's kind of playing out 1190 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 1: a position in this defensive coordinators scheme. I mean, statistically, 1191 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 1: it's not like he blew things up, but as a group, yeah, 1192 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 1: they do. They're gonna they're gonna mess up the score 1193 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 1: differential thing in the in d v o A with 1194 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,440 Speaker 1: these blowouts because they've now outscored their opponents this year 1195 01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 1: because of week one in this you know by Laden, 1196 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 1: So you're you're pointing out though some people are slavish 1197 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 1: in their love of uh d v o A, that 1198 01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 1: that it could be maipulated by scores that are well 1199 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 1: they love I love it, loves a big big blowouts. 1200 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 1: You know there was unsounded, unscientific. Well you gotta go, 1201 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta go. E p A two, you 1202 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:50,920 Speaker 1: gotta mix it exposed. Last word on this a f 1203 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,480 Speaker 1: I'd have last run in this game. Let's just move 1204 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 1: to the next week for the Lions because it was bad. Yeah. 1205 01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 1: Detroit safety Tracy Walker said, if this doesn't get better. 1206 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,400 Speaker 1: We're going to be oh and seventeen ys. All right, 1207 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 1: let's head to sea at all shotgun formation, play, fake looks, 1208 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,000 Speaker 1: far aside, throws, puts the ball up, reaching up making 1209 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 1: a catch, DK met Jeff touchdown, Shawks, Hey, Hey, Steve 1210 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,280 Speaker 1: Rabel k I r O, Gino Smith ran for one 1211 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 1: score through four a parent touchdown passes the DK metcalf 1212 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 1: and the Seahawks beat up on the jack You are 1213 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,960 Speaker 1: thirty one to seven ending they're losing streak, big win 1214 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,920 Speaker 1: and shook for Seattle. It doesn't matter the opponent. They 1215 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,920 Speaker 1: needed a w and Gino got it done. Yeah, the 1216 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 1: winds all count the same. I think they looked out 1217 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,440 Speaker 1: getting Jacksonville the week after their most recent loss to 1218 01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 1: the Saints in prime time. But I'll tell you what 1219 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,920 Speaker 1: if if you wanna choose a non lock situation to 1220 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,280 Speaker 1: play the prices right losing horn that we're so fond 1221 01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 1: of on this show, play it for me and my 1222 01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 1: game assignments this week, because this one was about as 1223 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:05,560 Speaker 1: ugly there. It was as about as ugly as that 1224 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,240 Speaker 1: that Eagles Lions. I'm sitting back watching this going, man, 1225 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,440 Speaker 1: I'm just getting all the blow us that was one blowout. Shy, 1226 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm just hitting the trifecta. But um, I mean yeah, 1227 01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,360 Speaker 1: from from a Seahawks perspective, you're you're happy to see 1228 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 1: urban Meyer lead his team out of the tunnel, knowing 1229 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 1: that this is another talent, poor roster that all you 1230 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 1: gotta do is not screw up too much and you 1231 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,960 Speaker 1: and hopefully Gino plays well enough for you to win 1232 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,680 Speaker 1: a game. Man, it's not like they they dominated on 1233 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,920 Speaker 1: the ground. They didn't. They rushed for uh sixty nine 1234 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 1: yards total. But Gino Smith did what pretty much anybody 1235 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,760 Speaker 1: with a brain would do in that situation. Throw the 1236 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 1: ball two dk metcalf when you're inside the opponent's thirty 1237 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 1: yard line. He had two touchdown catches. One was a 1238 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,440 Speaker 1: great catch right in front of the inside pilot on 1239 01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 1: the other one just inside the pilot on the opposite 1240 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,840 Speaker 1: side of the end zone. And they did their job. 1241 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,040 Speaker 1: And and the Jacksonville Jaguars often can't get out of 1242 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:51,920 Speaker 1: their own way save for that came in London. I mean, 1243 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,560 Speaker 1: they committed twelve penalties today. They had three turnovers on 1244 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:58,080 Speaker 1: downs uh when they reached Seattle territory. And the funniest 1245 01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,440 Speaker 1: thing about it is the Seahawks got short olds a lot. 1246 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 1: As a result of that, their touchdown drives started inside 1247 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 1: their own thirty. So, you know, the challenge wasn't as 1248 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 1: great this week. And I know it's any given Sunday 1249 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 1: in this league, and we all know these are the 1250 01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,920 Speaker 1: best fourteen hundred football players on the planet, but there 1251 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:17,200 Speaker 1: was quite a talent discrepancy today. Yeah, but everyone was 1252 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,640 Speaker 1: ready to just like slam if if it flipped the 1253 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 1: other way that, you know, blew it. I mean, you're 1254 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,360 Speaker 1: kind of under selling it here. He's thirteen out of 1255 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 1: his first thirteen for a couple of touchdowns in a 1256 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,440 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty three yards. And I couldn't help but 1257 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,880 Speaker 1: notice DK metcalf with a little bit of a sub 1258 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 1: tweet of his starting quarterback after the game saying, you know, 1259 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,920 Speaker 1: I haven't you know, talking about the jump ball touchdown 1260 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,920 Speaker 1: that he got, saying like, I haven't really gotten a 1261 01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,280 Speaker 1: ball like that since I've gotten here. You know that 1262 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 1: that takes trust from my quarterback, and I like, I 1263 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:52,120 Speaker 1: like seeing that. I was like, that's the thing is great. 1264 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't get into Gino because this is your thing. 1265 01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,160 Speaker 1: You know, we gotta we gotta leave some up for 1266 01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 1: you and Alley you there right, I'm just looking for 1267 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:03,920 Speaker 1: you because you know I haven't closely yet, but I'm 1268 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 1: looking for you to like accurately analyze, you know, what's 1269 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 1: happening on the football field as Gino Smith just cast 1270 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 1: a check in the NFL. With this performance that's happening, 1271 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:16,880 Speaker 1: He's gonna make it. He's gonna make it one more 1272 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 1: year at least. Now he's gonna spend every one of 1273 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,720 Speaker 1: those dollars proudly. And you know what else is gonna 1274 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 1: be happy after this one? Tyler Lockett, who has not 1275 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,920 Speaker 1: really been involved in their offense in recent weeks. He 1276 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 1: had twelve catches for a hundred forty two yards. He 1277 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,560 Speaker 1: probably ended up on a few fantasy benches this week, 1278 01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,240 Speaker 1: and myself included are probably like I should have played him. 1279 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:34,720 Speaker 1: This is the one week but they actually did something 1280 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:36,880 Speaker 1: with him. But you know, it all spends the same. 1281 01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,480 Speaker 1: I'd like to see Urban Meyer purchase a book on 1282 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,520 Speaker 1: Amazon called Here's what you actually are supposed to do 1283 01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 1: during a bye week? I mean they, I mean, how 1284 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,880 Speaker 1: do you come out this stale and this putrid after 1285 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,800 Speaker 1: you've had a chance to go tinker with your offensive? 1286 01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,520 Speaker 1: And put Trevor Lawrence. Yes, well, Dan, you were high 1287 01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,760 Speaker 1: on Trevor Lawrence coming into this game that I was 1288 01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,360 Speaker 1: asked to come up with a thought or type of 1289 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,560 Speaker 1: hot take for the taking show that I didn't believe in. 1290 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,440 Speaker 1: Um My take is that Urban Meyer is not good 1291 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 1: at this and uh, that's why things didn't work out. 1292 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,960 Speaker 1: I mean, Dan Arnold is your leading receiver. I mean, 1293 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:14,800 Speaker 1: and as I watched it, I was like, man, I 1294 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,800 Speaker 1: don't even know how to really analyze Trevor Lawrence because 1295 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,840 Speaker 1: I just don't really believe what he's working with and 1296 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 1: we don't believe in that. I mean, I like Marvin Jones, 1297 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,080 Speaker 1: but I mean, they're they're still lacking a lot. And 1298 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,400 Speaker 1: Trevor was very up and down. There were times where 1299 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,760 Speaker 1: he misses open throws, guys right in front of him, 1300 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,560 Speaker 1: He's putting it in the dirt. Um. I think he's 1301 01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:31,760 Speaker 1: he's in a bit of a Tim Couch situation right now, 1302 01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:33,880 Speaker 1: where he's just he's on a team that that lacks, 1303 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, talented players and and this is what it's 1304 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,400 Speaker 1: gonna look like. For a while, it was a it 1305 01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:42,400 Speaker 1: was a Pete Carroll and Seahawks fans revenge game against 1306 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 1: the Darryl Bevil and Brian Schottenheimer like the ghosts of 1307 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:51,200 Speaker 1: annoying offensive coordinators passed on the opposite sideline. And of 1308 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,880 Speaker 1: speaking of d v o A after this game, Seahawks folks, 1309 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,160 Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly who it was. Somebody from the 1310 01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,480 Speaker 1: Seahawks was like, hey, see the d v A numbers 1311 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 1: were pretty good. I think it's Pete Carroll. He was like, yeah, 1312 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,520 Speaker 1: it was better than our record shows. Just look at 1313 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:08,040 Speaker 1: d v o A. Carroll said, yeah, he did. It 1314 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,360 Speaker 1: was kind of shocked by that. Yeah. Um, and Greg, 1315 01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 1: you're right because Gino failed miserably the first three weeks 1316 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,240 Speaker 1: where he's going in. He literally covered the spread three straight. 1317 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 1: He played two great defenses the first if but he 1318 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,680 Speaker 1: needed you could be a rich man, but I know 1319 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:27,760 Speaker 1: his job is not to cover the spread, Greg, you do. 1320 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,160 Speaker 1: It's like he from a different angle. He's supposed to 1321 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:34,280 Speaker 1: do a little. Don't let him get you. Mark Seattle 1322 01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,080 Speaker 1: hits the buy now and then Dangerous probably is going 1323 01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,240 Speaker 1: to be back. But we don't know. But probably will, 1324 01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,400 Speaker 1: I mean unless they decided to go with Gino because 1325 01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:45,360 Speaker 1: he's you know, according to spouting reports, he's the timing 1326 01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,280 Speaker 1: couldn't be better. Let's get to the vio Let's get 1327 01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson back in there. Have this be the last 1328 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,520 Speaker 1: exactly the Gina had one more chance to make sure 1329 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,960 Speaker 1: he was going to stay in the NFL. He did it. 1330 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,560 Speaker 1: So let's let's put the cap on another season of 1331 01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:05,680 Speaker 1: everyone's favorite show. And that was another edition of Sipping 1332 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:12,040 Speaker 1: on Veno. Checking. That means Frags and Her Drop is 1333 01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,080 Speaker 1: gonna be back in two as well, and I'm not 1334 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,120 Speaker 1: mad about that, Nick Schuok, thank you. Not only did 1335 01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:20,479 Speaker 1: you get two dog games, the tapings different right now 1336 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:24,000 Speaker 1: because the Halloween night and it's one am where you're 1337 01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,800 Speaker 1: at and we know we love you, man, We will 1338 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,639 Speaker 1: make it up to you somehow. I promise you that. Yeah, 1339 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to give you a little bit of inside 1340 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:34,439 Speaker 1: baseball here. People watching this, uh, we'll notice that I 1341 01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,720 Speaker 1: don't have the typical backdrop because it was midnight and 1342 01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,920 Speaker 1: and honestly I wasn't gonna do everything necessary to set 1343 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,000 Speaker 1: the table up to get behind that pretty background when 1344 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,200 Speaker 1: this will suffice for right now. But I will say this, Greg, 1345 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,920 Speaker 1: once you retire from football and everything, I don't know 1346 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:53,040 Speaker 1: when that's gonna be retire from football. Are you trying 1347 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,880 Speaker 1: to retire? Yeah, you'll still have more hair than me. 1348 01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,160 Speaker 1: But you also have a great job opportunity in front 1349 01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,720 Speaker 1: of you, and that is Geno Smith is gonna run 1350 01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,240 Speaker 1: for office and you will be his campaign manager. And 1351 01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,280 Speaker 1: it will be like that retirement job that you're doing 1352 01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,360 Speaker 1: just because you're bored. Oh, I like that high paid 1353 01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,360 Speaker 1: consultants job. Yeah, I can just imagine Gino you know, 1354 01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, kissing babies and pressing flesh. Yes, there's one 1355 01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,599 Speaker 1: thing I think about Gino. It's like he's a people person. 1356 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:25,840 Speaker 1: He knows how to connect babies the people around him. Um, 1357 01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,240 Speaker 1: all right, there you go, Nick Chuck, thank you buddy, 1358 01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,559 Speaker 1: have a good night, good slumber. There he goes. All right, 1359 01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:35,920 Speaker 1: we have two more games. Let's let's hit him quick 1360 01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:39,519 Speaker 1: and say good night. Denver rushes four again. Pinokey steps 1361 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,680 Speaker 1: on the pocket, loads it up, home run ball. This 1362 01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:43,320 Speaker 1: is gonna be out of the back of the end zone. 1363 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:48,560 Speaker 1: Incomplete riff. No time left. Let me make sure it 1364 01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:59,040 Speaker 1: is over in Happy Halloween. That's three. I think we 1365 01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:00,519 Speaker 1: set it at four and a half off mark. So 1366 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:05,360 Speaker 1: we've got a problem here. Justin Simmons and the Broncos 1367 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,920 Speaker 1: held after a fumble game Washington the ball back with 1368 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,759 Speaker 1: a chance to tie the game. The Broncos also blocked 1369 01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 1: two field goals. What a set up. You know the 1370 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,080 Speaker 1: game's bad when this is the set up for the 1371 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:21,519 Speaker 1: game win. They stopped before games losing streak. I feel 1372 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:25,240 Speaker 1: like four teams stopped a four game losing streak today. Anyway, Mark, 1373 01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:29,479 Speaker 1: tell me something about this game that's interesting. I would 1374 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,320 Speaker 1: point to the reason that they were saying, like, let's 1375 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,320 Speaker 1: check if this game is really over, because it should 1376 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,720 Speaker 1: have been over, um a minute or so earlier. And 1377 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,080 Speaker 1: I actually, you know, we we in our in our 1378 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,000 Speaker 1: channel where we can communicate with each other. I'm not 1379 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,760 Speaker 1: allowed to say the actual company's name, I think, but uh, 1380 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:48,880 Speaker 1: we will send the play that we want to use 1381 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,679 Speaker 1: for the call. And I was gonna be the Justin 1382 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:54,080 Speaker 1: Simmons interception that ended this thing, but then you know, 1383 01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:58,200 Speaker 1: the this drove me nuts the Broncos and this was 1384 01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,120 Speaker 1: such a Vic Fongio type of scenario where he was 1385 01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,680 Speaker 1: going he was very annoyed. But they basically just had 1386 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,000 Speaker 1: to get just get a first down or run the 1387 01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:10,479 Speaker 1: clock out. And instead Melvin Gordon fumbles the ball like 1388 01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,799 Speaker 1: within less inside a minute, and this came after Javonta 1389 01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:17,519 Speaker 1: Williams fumbled a few plays earlier, recovered it. Then Teddy 1390 01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,519 Speaker 1: Bridgewater through a terrible wayward pass on second down that 1391 01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,320 Speaker 1: didn't take any time off the clock. They've almost gave 1392 01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,600 Speaker 1: the game away. Point being I go watch that just 1393 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,519 Speaker 1: to see how mismanaged that was. But other than that, 1394 01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,000 Speaker 1: I would say this about the broncos Um, it was 1395 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,880 Speaker 1: an inspired defensive effort for the most part with no 1396 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,560 Speaker 1: Von Miller in there. Guys like Shelby Harris So I 1397 01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,320 Speaker 1: think had both blocks on those field goals played out 1398 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,120 Speaker 1: of his mind, and you got from Teddy Bridgewater outside 1399 01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:45,400 Speaker 1: of you know, that one little last minute which really 1400 01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,519 Speaker 1: wasn't his fault. Um, it really solid kind of Teddy 1401 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,400 Speaker 1: Bridgewater game that you thought you'd get. And Washington, Um, 1402 01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,200 Speaker 1: the red zone woes hurt them early on. You know, 1403 01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,679 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera said after the game, we're basically a team 1404 01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,840 Speaker 1: in search of ourselves still, and they are and they're 1405 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:02,920 Speaker 1: just not there. And the idea that they were gonna, 1406 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:04,920 Speaker 1: like other teams, pick up from where they were a 1407 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,720 Speaker 1: year ago. No, Um, this maybe gives you a little 1408 01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,400 Speaker 1: bit hope for Denver because if they if they can 1409 01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:12,240 Speaker 1: get this from Teddy and they can get this from 1410 01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 1: the defense, arrow up. But I think you just played 1411 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,360 Speaker 1: another average team. This game felt six and a half 1412 01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:21,000 Speaker 1: hours long to me. I mean, yeah, can you can't 1413 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,000 Speaker 1: even give the defense that much love. When I think 1414 01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:28,320 Speaker 1: Washington had eight drives that went to the thirty six 1415 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:32,400 Speaker 1: yard line of Denver's or further and they finished with 1416 01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,240 Speaker 1: ten points. That's almost impossible to do. So they lived 1417 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,519 Speaker 1: deep in Broncos territory. And then Heinik happened. I mean 1418 01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,479 Speaker 1: that last couple of I did watch the very end 1419 01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,160 Speaker 1: of this game, and that's it. The last couple of 1420 01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:50,280 Speaker 1: Washington sequences were We're unreal how badly executed they were 1421 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:53,479 Speaker 1: on offense. And I'm sure it was somewhat good defense, 1422 01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,760 Speaker 1: but it was more just bad offense. It was well, 1423 01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,360 Speaker 1: it was better than like the Denver defense that we've 1424 01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:03,240 Speaker 1: been watching, though, but it has a lot of right. 1425 01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,200 Speaker 1: I just mean, it was it was rough. I know 1426 01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:10,200 Speaker 1: we've Heinik's doing his best, but it's tough. It was 1427 01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:13,080 Speaker 1: a hard watch. It's a tough sitch. That big stand 1428 01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,280 Speaker 1: at the end prevented the first windless October for the 1429 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:20,800 Speaker 1: Broncos since nineteen six seven. Let's take a break and 1430 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,760 Speaker 1: then close this thing out. Second in ten Stafford from 1431 01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,080 Speaker 1: the gun, looking right, throwing end zone, Cooper Cups got 1432 01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:32,800 Speaker 1: it touchdown l A and eleven yards strike to the 1433 01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:38,599 Speaker 1: NFL's leading receiver to put this one on ice. Matt 1434 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,360 Speaker 1: Stafford through for three five yards and three touchdowns and 1435 01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:45,599 Speaker 1: three quarters. That's J B. Long CASPN with the call, 1436 01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:51,479 Speaker 1: by the way, and the Rams dominated the Texans. That 1437 01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,040 Speaker 1: doesn't even tell the story. Los Angeles had a thirty 1438 01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:58,280 Speaker 1: eight ZIP lead when Sean McVeigh pulled his quarterback from 1439 01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:02,960 Speaker 1: the game. So as four straight wins uh for the Rams, 1440 01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:07,000 Speaker 1: seven straight losses for the Texans. Uh. Who are the 1441 01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,719 Speaker 1: worst team in football. And there's some bad teams in football, 1442 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:13,880 Speaker 1: there always are, but I think Texans are the worst. 1443 01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,240 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup continues to be on the record setting pace. Guys. 1444 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:26,800 Speaker 1: It's exciting. No, I mean this is a tough situation. Um, 1445 01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,160 Speaker 1: My daughter really enjoyed it. I mean she is. It 1446 01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,040 Speaker 1: was fun to be at home and just see how 1447 01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,560 Speaker 1: locked in she is the Rams game and she was 1448 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,439 Speaker 1: living it. She was dying. She loves the blowouts. She's 1449 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,320 Speaker 1: dying when they give up some plays up thirty eight nothing, 1450 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,960 Speaker 1: Texans scored twenty two points in the span of six 1451 01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:47,040 Speaker 1: minutes to get one of the all time back door covers. 1452 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,760 Speaker 1: I think the line ended at sixteen and a half. 1453 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,080 Speaker 1: They go for two as if they knew what the 1454 01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,560 Speaker 1: line was to cut it to sixteen and get it 1455 01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,600 Speaker 1: depends when you know you you picked the game. But 1456 01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,120 Speaker 1: if you did it like right before game time, that's 1457 01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,160 Speaker 1: in all and all timer. Um. I don't know what 1458 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,040 Speaker 1: else to say about that. Yeah, the Texans, I think 1459 01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,680 Speaker 1: that what seventy seven yards of offense going into the 1460 01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,439 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. It's that you're right, how to run the 1461 01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,360 Speaker 1: clock in. They're the worst. They are the worst team. 1462 01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,120 Speaker 1: I totally safe. We talked about this last week actually 1463 01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:19,040 Speaker 1: you know, off air, but that I totally supported them 1464 01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,280 Speaker 1: at thirty two despite you know that when they won 1465 01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:25,960 Speaker 1: the won win. Yes, so there you go, and uh, 1466 01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:30,200 Speaker 1: that is the longest losing streak for the Texans since 1467 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:34,840 Speaker 1: they lost fourteen games in a row and season. They 1468 01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:38,799 Speaker 1: stink and Deshaun Watson will be on that roster until 1469 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,639 Speaker 1: the off season. It sounds like that is at least 1470 01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,720 Speaker 1: the story. I guess if there's anything for the Texans 1471 01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,640 Speaker 1: um in terms of a reprieve here, Yes, you're not 1472 01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,240 Speaker 1: gonna get Deshaun Watson out of your life. But once 1473 01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,960 Speaker 1: the trade deadline passes and it's now very clear that 1474 01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,519 Speaker 1: he is not going to play a snap on the field, 1475 01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:58,519 Speaker 1: it wouldn't make any sense on a number of levels. 1476 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,439 Speaker 1: He this is that stories. I think it's gonna disappear 1477 01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,599 Speaker 1: and then come back with a vengeance come the off season. 1478 01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:08,000 Speaker 1: But Stephen Ross was that I don't know. I still 1479 01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:10,840 Speaker 1: but there's nothing I could happen. The story can't run 1480 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:15,080 Speaker 1: forward after the deadline right now, Yeah, we need to 1481 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:17,280 Speaker 1: pass that deadline. De Sean Jackson will not be on 1482 01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,479 Speaker 1: the Rams by the way, by the time we get 1483 01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,360 Speaker 1: past the deadline. I don't know if they'll find anyone 1484 01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:23,000 Speaker 1: to trade him, but it sounds like they're just gonna 1485 01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,000 Speaker 1: cut him. They brought in someone I was not familiar 1486 01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,160 Speaker 1: with late in this game, Square Neck, who was catching 1487 01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,720 Speaker 1: passes down the field, and I was like, oh, he 1488 01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,840 Speaker 1: looks Okay. I guess de Sean Jackson really will never play. 1489 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,559 Speaker 1: Problem and for any team that trades for Deshaun Jackson 1490 01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,479 Speaker 1: is he's He's already passed the window, the two week 1491 01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,000 Speaker 1: window in September where he's awesome. So I don't know 1492 01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,240 Speaker 1: unless it resets when he joins a new team and 1493 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,720 Speaker 1: you get that first month back, I don't know, or 1494 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,280 Speaker 1: or you're building for next September and you just you're 1495 01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,240 Speaker 1: stashing him. He's gonna get caught. He's gonna sign with 1496 01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,400 Speaker 1: someone as a free agent. That was all right. Before 1497 01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,360 Speaker 1: we say goodbye, let's talk the last game that was 1498 01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:03,479 Speaker 1: played on on day Sunday Night football from Minneapolis. Do 1499 01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:13,559 Speaker 1: not ever count out Cooper Rush Sunday Nights to Lee 1500 01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:20,920 Speaker 1: and John Kennedy's hill for the touchdowns Cooper Amari Cooper 1501 01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:27,240 Speaker 1: over Cameron Danceler seventy five yards in eight place to 1502 01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:33,720 Speaker 1: take the lead. I love this Cowboys team. I do, 1503 01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:35,920 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people feel the same way. 1504 01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:39,519 Speaker 1: Even people that hate the Cowboys are like, man, this 1505 01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:44,000 Speaker 1: team knows what it's doing. With Dak Prescott sidelined as 1506 01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:47,840 Speaker 1: a precaution with that cap injury, Cooper Rush steps in. 1507 01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,439 Speaker 1: It looks good. He wasn't perfect. He threw a bad pick, 1508 01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,840 Speaker 1: he lost a fumble, but he also threw yards with 1509 01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:59,120 Speaker 1: two touchdowns, including that go ahead and score late Tomari 1510 01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,480 Speaker 1: Cooper after Zeke Elliott had a huge third down conversion. 1511 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,840 Speaker 1: Uh and the Cowboys drop of twenty sixteen loss on 1512 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,759 Speaker 1: the Vikings Mark. I mean, we'll get to the Vikings. 1513 01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,559 Speaker 1: It's a brutal loss for the Vikings that really takes 1514 01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,400 Speaker 1: a lot of wind out of their sales. But for 1515 01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:16,840 Speaker 1: the Cowboys there six and one and what almost felt 1516 01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:18,920 Speaker 1: like a giveaway game and they went and won the 1517 01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:24,040 Speaker 1: damn thing. It's the kind of win that UH makes 1518 01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,880 Speaker 1: you I I also am really enjoying this Cowboys team. 1519 01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,840 Speaker 1: And the ceiling feels completely unknown, just because you know, 1520 01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:34,320 Speaker 1: eking out something like this where a Cooper rush didn't 1521 01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:38,320 Speaker 1: didn't know, you know, short shortly before the game if 1522 01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,360 Speaker 1: he was gonna play or not, and you know, they 1523 01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,600 Speaker 1: had Dak Prescott doing a variety of workouts for I 1524 01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,439 Speaker 1: thought he looked Spry looked pretty good. And it's like 1525 01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,120 Speaker 1: suddenly Cooper rushes in there. And I thought that he 1526 01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:51,160 Speaker 1: grew after a couple he could have had maybe three 1527 01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 1: interceptions in the first half. He had he had one 1528 01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:56,200 Speaker 1: that was you know, ricocheted off someone. I thought he 1529 01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,240 Speaker 1: grew more comfortable as the game went on. Obviously made 1530 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,240 Speaker 1: some big path US is down down the stretch, uh 1531 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,840 Speaker 1: to me, Like the ending was also delightful because, and 1532 01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,840 Speaker 1: this was from NFL research, the Cooper rush to a 1533 01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,280 Speaker 1: Mari Cooper touchdown, and I know everyone was saying Cooper 1534 01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,479 Speaker 1: to Cooper. I get it, we all understand that. But 1535 01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,280 Speaker 1: it is the first time in NFL history where the 1536 01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,240 Speaker 1: pastor's first name and a receiver's last name are an 1537 01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:23,519 Speaker 1: exact match. Thank to Liz, Thank you to listeners who 1538 01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:25,840 Speaker 1: sent that my way. But I just thought it was 1539 01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,320 Speaker 1: a win where the Cowboys. I start to think more 1540 01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,519 Speaker 1: about Mike McCarthy, I start to think more about the 1541 01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:33,960 Speaker 1: whole coaching staff, the way that they're able to overcomes 1542 01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,800 Speaker 1: well until we hit that Cooper Cooper the first time 1543 01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,800 Speaker 1: in NFL history. That's kind of that's kind of insane, right, 1544 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:43,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you couldn't you could think in your head 1545 01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:47,920 Speaker 1: that there would be the last to be totally honest, 1546 01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:49,800 Speaker 1: I know, but you know what, there's a pocket of 1547 01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,679 Speaker 1: our audience, maybe a very small pocket, like that little, tiny, 1548 01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:57,479 Speaker 1: tiny pocket in your jeans where you just put some coins. Yeah, 1549 01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,599 Speaker 1: the little pocket, like some people are like this kind 1550 01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:05,360 Speaker 1: of stuff. Greg take it from there, Greg over to you, 1551 01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:10,760 Speaker 1: what what um, what a defensive performance. I mean, I 1552 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,880 Speaker 1: think that's that's what we're learning. I know, you know, 1553 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,120 Speaker 1: defense has mattered based on how good the offense is 1554 01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:20,400 Speaker 1: that they're playing against sometimes, but these were two top 1555 01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:24,000 Speaker 1: tennis type defenses coming into the game, and one looked 1556 01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,360 Speaker 1: much better, you know, I know Patrick Peterson was missing, 1557 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,160 Speaker 1: but one of them gave up four hundred yards to 1558 01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:34,120 Speaker 1: Cooper rush and and a game winning touchdown drive when 1559 01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,720 Speaker 1: all you had to do was at least just stop, 1560 01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, making a field goal and at least you 1561 01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,720 Speaker 1: can go to overtime. Zeke Elliott you mentioned runs through 1562 01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:45,720 Speaker 1: that tackle by Anthony Barr, Cooper, Mosses Danceler. I mean, 1563 01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,200 Speaker 1: that was just an awesome play. It was not an 1564 01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:50,400 Speaker 1: underrated catch. Everyone knows it was an awesome catch. But 1565 01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:54,040 Speaker 1: that was a difficult catch to win the game. Uh, 1566 01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,600 Speaker 1: they held him under three hundred yards. The Viking, the 1567 01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:00,320 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, I think through the ball twenty times for 1568 01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:04,640 Speaker 1: seventy nine yards in the second half. It's like, we 1569 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:06,519 Speaker 1: gotta give him love. It's all sorts of dudes up 1570 01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:09,040 Speaker 1: front to It's a diggy zoa. Michael Parsons is a 1571 01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,200 Speaker 1: beast obviously Gregory has been great, but it's a lot 1572 01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:13,600 Speaker 1: of guys contributing, and we all have friends that are 1573 01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,800 Speaker 1: Vikings fans and they are an agitated fan base. And Dan, 1574 01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,040 Speaker 1: I think you mentioned on the last show how the 1575 01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,640 Speaker 1: Vikings go to sleep on offense, and we saw that 1576 01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,200 Speaker 1: tonight and it was embarrassing. I mean, the same thing 1577 01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:26,799 Speaker 1: happened against the Browns a few weeks back. As I recall, 1578 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,000 Speaker 1: they go right down the field on the first drive, 1579 01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:33,400 Speaker 1: Cousins hits Adam Feeling and you're thinking they're often running 1580 01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:36,439 Speaker 1: and Cooper cup Cooper rushes the other quarterback on the 1581 01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,200 Speaker 1: other side, and this is gonna be a four quarter 1582 01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:43,160 Speaker 1: party for the Vikings, and then just a completely different 1583 01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:46,120 Speaker 1: game broke out and I think Cousins was you know, 1584 01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,720 Speaker 1: he was pretty amped up and agitated throughout this game, 1585 01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,439 Speaker 1: I thought, and Mike Zimmer looked very annoyed with the offense, 1586 01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,280 Speaker 1: uh and how it performed in this game. And when 1587 01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:58,479 Speaker 1: you look at you know, the weapons, Dalvin Cook was 1588 01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,400 Speaker 1: held in check. Um. He wasn't bad, but did not 1589 01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,680 Speaker 1: have a big time game. I thought he would in 1590 01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,200 Speaker 1: this game. And then you look, you know, Feeling did 1591 01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:09,240 Speaker 1: some things had the touchdown. But justin Jefferson had two 1592 01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:12,200 Speaker 1: catches for twenty one yards and four targets. kJ Osborne, 1593 01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,880 Speaker 1: who had been talking up, he had two catches, uh 1594 01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,720 Speaker 1: for ten yards, and there just wasn't anyone else that 1595 01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,280 Speaker 1: was able to step up and make the big play. 1596 01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,040 Speaker 1: So like the and you know, I've been talking about 1597 01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:25,280 Speaker 1: the Vikings on this podcast that they're interesting to me. 1598 01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:28,080 Speaker 1: When you have a game like this, it's just like, man, 1599 01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:29,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if this team is ever going to 1600 01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,240 Speaker 1: figure it out. They might just be one of those 1601 01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,240 Speaker 1: one step forward to step back teams all year and 1602 01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:36,120 Speaker 1: then by the time you get to January, you look 1603 01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:37,800 Speaker 1: up and they're eight and nine, and being like, I 1604 01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,360 Speaker 1: can't believe we let the season slip away. I'm starting 1605 01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:42,639 Speaker 1: to have some real doubts about them after this performance. 1606 01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:46,160 Speaker 1: One for thirteen on third down another indicator that they 1607 01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:50,320 Speaker 1: can go real, real silent on that side of the ball. Um. 1608 01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:54,320 Speaker 1: I think Mike zimmer Um coaches like it's nine still 1609 01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,200 Speaker 1: at times it's not, you know, entirely on everyone, but 1610 01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm with you. They're an eight win team that or 1611 01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,360 Speaker 1: they had nine win team that we're gonna we we 1612 01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,080 Speaker 1: already you know, how I feel about this, But they're 1613 01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:07,479 Speaker 1: gonna get hard objector seated out of this situation at 1614 01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,120 Speaker 1: some point, and I don't need to put my faith 1615 01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,120 Speaker 1: into what they're doing. I don't know. I see, I 1616 01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,160 Speaker 1: know what you're saying there, Mark. Sometimes that's one thing 1617 01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:18,360 Speaker 1: where we just have a different viewpoint on football, where 1618 01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:20,639 Speaker 1: you will write off a team if they're not gonna 1619 01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,960 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, Like I think not only could 1620 01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:26,080 Speaker 1: the Vikings despite what I just said, if they found 1621 01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,040 Speaker 1: their way to win a couple of games, I think 1622 01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,240 Speaker 1: they could take somebody out in January. I still think 1623 01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,560 Speaker 1: they are a team that could be a thorn in 1624 01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:34,519 Speaker 1: someone's side and and have a run in them. But 1625 01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,519 Speaker 1: this this type of loss is just like, man, are 1626 01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,200 Speaker 1: you just never going to figure it out? And maybe 1627 01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,280 Speaker 1: that's not being fair to the Cowboys, who had an 1628 01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,920 Speaker 1: awesome performance, especially on defense and what Rush was able 1629 01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:48,920 Speaker 1: to do um, But the frustration is real because you 1630 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:52,759 Speaker 1: know there is a winning team somewhere in that locker 1631 01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:55,559 Speaker 1: room in Minnesota and it just refuses to come out. 1632 01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,960 Speaker 1: And if there isn't right, there's some bad luck involved. 1633 01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,840 Speaker 1: I mean, Cooper Rush did this game winning touchdown drive 1634 01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:05,760 Speaker 1: by throwing the ball directly into Bishod Brelan's gut, who 1635 01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,639 Speaker 1: and then it bounced off the gut into his hand 1636 01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,080 Speaker 1: up in the air into Marie Cooper's hands. For like 1637 01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:13,320 Speaker 1: the forty yard games, it was like the game was 1638 01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:16,600 Speaker 1: over if if Freeland makes that play. But but they 1639 01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,920 Speaker 1: had seven drives of four players or less. I I 1640 01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:23,160 Speaker 1: we we look at you know, we try not to 1641 01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,040 Speaker 1: like think that like it's at this prime time or 1642 01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:27,960 Speaker 1: big game thing. But I don't know, man, I've watched 1643 01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,240 Speaker 1: every Kirk Cousins game this year. This was the worst one, 1644 01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, it really was. I know they only had 1645 01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,240 Speaker 1: seven points about Cleveland, but this was this was the 1646 01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,880 Speaker 1: first one where it was like he he was a 1647 01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:41,120 Speaker 1: big part of the problem. He was he was, he 1648 01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,120 Speaker 1: was freaking out. I'm glad you mentioned that. He just 1649 01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:46,280 Speaker 1: seemed amped up. It's like it was like the game's bigger, 1650 01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:48,599 Speaker 1: so me and Zimmer are gonna be more amped up. 1651 01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,920 Speaker 1: And it doesn't seem like it helps out that way. 1652 01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:54,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, amped up doesn't translate unfortunately, where it does 1653 01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,600 Speaker 1: for some other quarterbacks. There was a there was a 1654 01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,360 Speaker 1: play in the first half. I think it was maybe 1655 01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:03,679 Speaker 1: their third possession, uh, when it was a third down 1656 01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:08,360 Speaker 1: conversion attempt, and they showed it on the replay NBC. 1657 01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:12,599 Speaker 1: Cousins is going through his progressions. Someone flashes I believe 1658 01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,920 Speaker 1: open over the middle, and the receiver I'm thinking based 1659 01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:19,280 Speaker 1: on the reaction, does something that Cousins didn't want. So 1660 01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:22,479 Speaker 1: Cousins looks away and then dumps it off for a 1661 01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,800 Speaker 1: some type of dump out pass that didn't get the 1662 01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,599 Speaker 1: first down. And he's like screaming and anger as he's 1663 01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:31,320 Speaker 1: moving down to the checkdown, and I'm like, who does 1664 01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:32,760 Speaker 1: that in the middle of the play, Like he was 1665 01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:35,960 Speaker 1: so amped up. Uh, maybe the moment did get too 1666 01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:37,479 Speaker 1: big for him. I don't know. I don't want to 1667 01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:39,880 Speaker 1: have those Kirk Cousins conversations anymore. I knew they drove 1668 01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:44,240 Speaker 1: West crazy as well, But man, I see what you're saying, Greg, 1669 01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,599 Speaker 1: he didn't play well with a lot of people watching 1670 01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:48,559 Speaker 1: them tonight. Well how about this? How about right before 1671 01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,120 Speaker 1: the half when they were trying to get something going 1672 01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,200 Speaker 1: and they had the seconds for running out and they 1673 01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,800 Speaker 1: looked like it looked like the second preseason game with 1674 01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,040 Speaker 1: a quarterback that had been in college three months ago. 1675 01:25:58,280 --> 01:25:59,880 Speaker 1: They couldn't get the snout. I mean it was just no. 1676 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,120 Speaker 1: It was just like hyper disorganized, and it's just the 1677 01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,880 Speaker 1: ear mark of a team that's gonna get caught off 1678 01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,639 Speaker 1: guard at some point and it's gonna be bye bye, 1679 01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:12,520 Speaker 1: see you later, check you, check you again. In two 1680 01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:17,840 Speaker 1: Marks is trying to CROSSLF teams and I it's not 1681 01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:20,040 Speaker 1: like a bold take mark. I don't think anybody sees 1682 01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:23,320 Speaker 1: the Vikings right now as a Super Bowl team, Like, yes, 1683 01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:25,960 Speaker 1: eventually they will be crossed off and you won't have 1684 01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,360 Speaker 1: to We're calling them super fun and I think the 1685 01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,439 Speaker 1: problem is that if you ask most Vikings fans, it's 1686 01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:33,240 Speaker 1: fun for us because we can jump out of it 1687 01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:35,439 Speaker 1: when they suddenly do this. But if you're following this 1688 01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,240 Speaker 1: team week to week, you are being driven nuts. It's 1689 01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:39,840 Speaker 1: like you're running through a field and you've got like 1690 01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,639 Speaker 1: eight people shooting arrows at you. You're gonna go down. 1691 01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:46,720 Speaker 1: It's not gonna work out for you. I'm with the man. 1692 01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:49,840 Speaker 1: It is fun when they win. It's just really not 1693 01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:52,320 Speaker 1: fun when they lose. This team, I don't know. There's 1694 01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:54,800 Speaker 1: the highs are highs and the lows are low. Good 1695 01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:56,439 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, though, Man, I got a lot of 1696 01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:59,840 Speaker 1: work to do with the power rankings that that be 1697 01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,519 Speaker 1: now begins tonight after this podcast wraps. I don't know 1698 01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,760 Speaker 1: what to make of the top ten is like very 1699 01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,679 Speaker 1: why don't you do something really um like that? Imagine 1700 01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:14,720 Speaker 1: there's like twelve people doing power rankings, like if not 1701 01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,000 Speaker 1: a hundred and twelve people, but like the twelve main 1702 01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,800 Speaker 1: guys you're in that group that crew of writers, like 1703 01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:24,280 Speaker 1: do something so bizarre that it's like it catches total fire, 1704 01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:28,880 Speaker 1: like illogical Number one. I don't mean, I mean like 1705 01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:33,040 Speaker 1: someone out of remember one upset Pat McAfee. I have 1706 01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:36,799 Speaker 1: his trust, so I talked. I remember after last Sunday, 1707 01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:39,960 Speaker 1: I was like, put put that Cowboys team number one? 1708 01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:44,760 Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, put that put that they're looking good, Like 1709 01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,439 Speaker 1: you got the Packers at seven and one, the Rams 1710 01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:49,599 Speaker 1: are seven and one, the Cowboys are six and one. 1711 01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,160 Speaker 1: Probably one of those three teams or number one Arizona 1712 01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:55,400 Speaker 1: is going to drop out of the past number one. 1713 01:27:55,880 --> 01:28:03,040 Speaker 1: Let's go oh man, all right, Ricky, I'm glad he 1714 01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,880 Speaker 1: had a good time at the game, speaking quickly on 1715 01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:09,200 Speaker 1: very quickly, you know, for the New England sports scene. 1716 01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:13,840 Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad to do it, but it's no 1717 01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,479 Speaker 1: I just wanna say rest in peace to Jerry Remy. 1718 01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:20,360 Speaker 1: What what a great broadcaster he was, um for the 1719 01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:24,120 Speaker 1: Red Sox, um just bringing like joy, No one had 1720 01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,840 Speaker 1: more fun like I am so happy I got to 1721 01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,720 Speaker 1: spend like twenty years just listening to him every day 1722 01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:32,240 Speaker 1: because no one had more fun and made sports more 1723 01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,320 Speaker 1: fun than him listening to him every day. So it's sad. 1724 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,479 Speaker 1: Yet he had cancer seven different times and he battled 1725 01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:41,360 Speaker 1: battlet and was on the air for a lot of it. Um, 1726 01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:44,280 Speaker 1: but but lost lost his life today. But what what 1727 01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:46,840 Speaker 1: an influence he had for like a bunch of you know, 1728 01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,479 Speaker 1: millions and millions of kids in New England watching those games. 1729 01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:52,840 Speaker 1: Sure I remember when I went to uh college and 1730 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,920 Speaker 1: and up in Boston and and you know, the Red 1731 01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:59,360 Speaker 1: Sox are always on in the background, um with all 1732 01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:01,799 Speaker 1: the you know, natives of the region at the school. 1733 01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,439 Speaker 1: And uh you know, even as a Yankees fan, I 1734 01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,439 Speaker 1: love I love Remy because he was so it was 1735 01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,240 Speaker 1: a real dude. He had a sense of humor, he 1736 01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,760 Speaker 1: had that accent. He was a Massachusetts dude through and 1737 01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:15,479 Speaker 1: through a New England guy. And uh yeah his uh 1738 01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,840 Speaker 1: his hilarious to legit funny, which almost no one I 1739 01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,559 Speaker 1: feel like not made. That's not fair, but like legit 1740 01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:25,600 Speaker 1: funny for that's true. That's true. One of the great broadcasters, 1741 01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:30,240 Speaker 1: gone too soon. All right, there we go, week eight. 1742 01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,720 Speaker 1: I mean, we're all messed up now, mark because of 1743 01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:37,519 Speaker 1: the seventeen game season, but we're kind of at the 1744 01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:41,679 Speaker 1: halfway point now of the regular season, and that's yeah. 1745 01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:44,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't really week never was really the 1746 01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,000 Speaker 1: halfway point of anything, and even in the regular just 1747 01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,400 Speaker 1: the regular season to begin with last time, because just 1748 01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:51,880 Speaker 1: to prevent any tweets or whatever, the end of next 1749 01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,559 Speaker 1: week would officially be halfway because there's now eighteen weeks 1750 01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,519 Speaker 1: and next week's week nine. So if we're looking for 1751 01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:01,439 Speaker 1: a halfway nine eighteen divide, oh man, we gotta go 1752 01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:03,439 Speaker 1: through an entire full week just to get to the 1753 01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:10,160 Speaker 1: halfway point. Now that that's dark, All right, good stuff. 1754 01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:13,160 Speaker 1: I hope everybody had a happy and save Halloween, and 1755 01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:17,280 Speaker 1: we will be back on Tuesday. It will be the 1756 01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:20,839 Speaker 1: trade deadline edition of the Round the NFL Podcorse podcast, 1757 01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,040 Speaker 1: or maybe just a regular edition of the podcast if 1758 01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:26,920 Speaker 1: nothing notable happens on the trade landscape, But either way, 1759 01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:30,599 Speaker 1: we hope you're there listening and thank you for always 1760 01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:34,639 Speaker 1: tuning in. This is Dan Hanson signing off for Quiet Storm, 1761 01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:39,639 Speaker 1: the old boss Rookie Hollywood. There's a happy grave digger somewhere. 1762 01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:48,080 Speaker 1: The pipe good stuff until Tuesday. He the car. I 1763 01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:50,559 Speaker 1: just sat grave bigger, put on the side, Make make 1764 01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:53,600 Speaker 1: it tightens number one. That would be cold that that 1765 01:30:53,600 --> 01:31:00,800 Speaker 1: would be a pay s