Speaker 1: It's nine Ogen one.
Speaker 2: With Jenny Garth and Tory spelling.
Speaker 3: Welcome one, Welcome all. It's another episode of Nina two,
Speaker 3: and OMG, do you like that opening any better?
Speaker 1: That was a whole new way.
Speaker 3: Dory's not here to criticize my opening, so I tried
Speaker 3: something new and Naws she'll never even know.
Speaker 1: I auinely liked it.
Speaker 3: Welcome one, Welcome? Was it welcome one? Welcome all? Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're just having some technical issues. Her internet is out,
Speaker 3: her phone is dead, so she's going to find internet
Speaker 3: down the street. Apparently she's running around the neighborhood with
Speaker 3: her laptop.
Speaker 1: She's like running the starbus is hilarious. So it's sort
Speaker 1: of like, hey, stay tuned, see when she gets the Starbucks.
Speaker 3: We'll be here exactly, you guys, don't you'll know when
Speaker 3: we know.
Speaker 1: I'm still fighting off this cold, so I sound disgusting,
Speaker 1: but I'm here.
Speaker 3: It's okay. I think we're both like not on our
Speaker 3: top game today, I will say.
Speaker 1: Which could make for the best podcast ever. Maybe you
Speaker 1: just don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe I should take muscle relaxers every night.
Speaker 1: You poor thing? What happened? Did you have a like
Speaker 1: a back spasm.
Speaker 3: No, I have a issue. I don't even want to
Speaker 3: get into it right now, but get fixed soon. I'll
Speaker 3: tell you. I'll tell you, guys, I'll tell everybody.
Speaker 1: But now your hip? Is it your hip? Grandma?
Speaker 3: Quite possibly? Oh no, I'm not ready to talk about
Speaker 3: it yet. I'm in denial.
Speaker 1: Keep me. Oh no, is it with the arthritis? Okay,
Speaker 1: we won't talk about it now, we won't talk.
Speaker 3: About Let's talk about Alone at the Top.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I love this episode.
Speaker 3: I watched it, you guys. I swear to god, I
Speaker 3: watched it, but I woke up with my notepad next
Speaker 3: to me and it had three things written on it.
Speaker 3: And I don't know what happened. So we are it's
Speaker 3: gonna come to me. Mm hmm. This is episode five,
Speaker 3: no Season five. It's already off to a great start.
Speaker 3: Episode twenty two Alone at the Top aired February twenty second,
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 1: And it came right back to me, like as soon
Speaker 1: as there was sort of the lurker in the bushes,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, that guy's a rapist
Speaker 1: like me.
Speaker 3: To give me a synopsis, give me a synopsus. Sky,
Speaker 3: I don't even know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: A crime wave hits the campus of California University and
Speaker 1: David's buddy is the prime suspect. Meanwhile, Valerie buys her
Speaker 1: way into the peach bit after dark and tells Ray
Speaker 1: to hit the bed or hit the road. Dylan is
Speaker 1: dangerously close to using because he can't get over Kelly
Speaker 1: and because Valerie sucks uh, and Donna is still in
Speaker 1: the dark about Rayan Valerie. The director of this episode
Speaker 1: was directed yes Victor LaBelle lobl Loeblobal.
Speaker 3: Written by Steve Westerman and Jessica Klein.
Speaker 1: Oh's what it's so good because immediately I was back
Speaker 1: when I saw the time, remembering like that's a there's a.
Speaker 3: Bad guy's bad guy in the bushes, bad guy in
Speaker 3: the bushes, and you're here.
Speaker 1: I just was like when they remember what At first
Speaker 1: he's stealing bikes and I was like, that's not what happens.
Speaker 1: This guy's a rapist. Like I was like, this is
Speaker 1: really bad, and then I was right, what, yeahhes at
Speaker 1: the end he okay, So you might have not remembered this,
Speaker 1: but at the end of the episode, which we'll go
Speaker 1: through a scene by scene, don't worry he has attacked
Speaker 1: a girl because one of the girls in the dorm
Speaker 1: is like leaving school. She's like, I'm out.
Speaker 3: I don't like this episode already because me, you feeling.
Speaker 1: Good and your intuition was so strong, because there's the
Speaker 1: scene where you and Brandon are walking and you're like,
Speaker 1: did you hear that? Did you hear that? And that's
Speaker 1: where the bad guy was there.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, gosh, I have goosebumps everywhere, and I
Speaker 3: have no idea why you.
Speaker 1: Want to go through it scene by scene?
Speaker 3: Sure, but first you want to note trivia. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: we talk about Jamie Walters and his songs that we
Speaker 3: never get to hear ever. But Jamie Walters had fourteen No,
Speaker 3: he has fourteen million downloads on Spotify for his song
Speaker 3: hold On.
Speaker 1: Oh, which is hold On. I remember that one, but
Speaker 1: that's how do you.
Speaker 3: Talk to an angel?
Speaker 1: Wow, that was even a bigger one, I think, so
Speaker 1: hold on fourteen million?
Speaker 3: How'd that one go?
Speaker 1: Hold On? I think I heard it the other day. Oh,
Speaker 1: I have to sing it later?
Speaker 3: And did you know this Ray was supposed to the
Speaker 3: character of Ray was supposed meaning Jamie was supposed to
Speaker 3: return for season six under a signed one million dollar contract,
Speaker 3: which I am struggling to agree with. But fans were
Speaker 3: so upset about Donna going back to him that Aaron
Speaker 3: Spelling fired him. And we will talk about that once
Speaker 3: Tory finds her internet, because I really need to get in.
Speaker 1: And once we get to those scenes. But a million dollars?
Speaker 1: Were you making a million dollars? Uh?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: So yeah, zero chance?
Speaker 2: Then I don't.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I would have to refer to Randy. I have
Speaker 3: absolutely no idea how much I ever made on that
Speaker 3: show because I don't do math.
Speaker 1: A million dollars sounds like a lot back then for
Speaker 1: a guy who wasn't the main cast.
Speaker 3: It can't be true. I'm sorry, I'm gonna just.
Speaker 1: They should have made him likable and given him a
Speaker 1: million dollars, right like, they should have made him not
Speaker 1: a cheater, cheater pumpkin eater, and not an abuser.
Speaker 3: But what is a million when you have a million
Speaker 3: dollar contract? What is that in your in your bank account?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 3: What do you get after taxes, after agents, after lawyers?
Speaker 1: Oh? Less? Okay? So you get one four hundred maybe
Speaker 1: three right under?
Speaker 3: It's under a half.
Speaker 1: And also, a million dollar contract could be over multiple years,
Speaker 1: because you could get a million dollar contract that's three
Speaker 1: years long.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't know, we don't. We didn't read the contract.
Speaker 3: Don't know, but we're gonna find ounds empty. But let's
Speaker 3: start in Valerie's hotel room. You wanna you wanna?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I am. I like her.
Speaker 3: I stop lying you. You said I already said you
Speaker 3: don't like her. Yes, I love to hate her, but
Speaker 3: I like the character because you like to hate it, Okay.
Speaker 1: Because I really cannot stand it. She's so creepy, crazy.
Speaker 1: And then when Rush walked in, I about gagged because
Speaker 1: I was like.
Speaker 3: Is this what is this? Is what I think is
Speaker 3: about to happen? Gonna happen? Is that what I was thinking?
Speaker 1: Oh? God no.
Speaker 3: But first she calls Ray's mom, and of course, you
Speaker 3: know what's her name, lu Anne is sitting there clipping
Speaker 3: her coupons. That's a good pastime on a Sunday morning, totally,
Speaker 3: and she lies. She says it Ray's not home, but
Speaker 3: he's right there.
Speaker 1: And can reget a cell phone so we don't have
Speaker 1: to keep calling the mom.
Speaker 3: No, he doesn't want to be reachable. He's too aloof
Speaker 3: and mysterious, like.
Speaker 1: It's just so come on, Okay.
Speaker 3: So then Rush Sanders, Steve's dad knocks on the door
Speaker 3: and a sort of.
Speaker 1: Sexy and cute. So I get it why he's got.
Speaker 3: That something, He's got that same my little sneaky twinkie
Speaker 3: in his eye that Steve has, you know.
Speaker 1: Good casting of a father and son right, very much.
Speaker 3: So they are so great together and apart they still
Speaker 3: remind you of each other, which I love.
Speaker 1: The steak dining scene was cute. We'll get to but.
Speaker 3: Uh so he he knocks on VAL's door, we all
Speaker 3: think something really bad, it's about to go down even yeah,
Speaker 3: but really she wants to buy his share of.
Speaker 1: The Ppa d the peach pit or where where is
Speaker 1: this money coming from? She does not have heat. First
Speaker 1: of all, Dylan gave her ten thousand dollars. Pretend Jonesy
Speaker 1: gave her fifty thousand dollars like Jonesy didn't give her
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars, did he?
Speaker 3: Maybe because maybe she's just making three million or something, right,
Speaker 3: maybe he did.
Speaker 1: Maybe he gave her a quarter of a million dollars.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just a crazy down.
Speaker 3: Well, you never know what kind of deal she worked
Speaker 3: out with him. Wink wink.
Speaker 1: What do we think the peach pit cost one hundred
Speaker 1: grand back then?
Speaker 3: A business? But it wasn't five hossiful business. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but it does seem crazy. It seems totally unrealistic that
Speaker 3: she could just have enough money to buy everything she.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my calculator is like, does not.
Speaker 3: Calculators rolling its eyes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like this is his mom makes sense.
Speaker 3: But he agrees to negotiate with her, So this is
Speaker 3: where we're going. We go to the California University and
Speaker 3: Brandon has surprised Kelly with a sweet little picnic her
Speaker 3: friend group, concluding Dylan, who is finally back at school.
Speaker 1: Never has there been a picnic where everyone left thirty
Speaker 1: seconds after the guest, right?
Speaker 3: I know, geeze I got to go. I was like,
Speaker 3: really nice, cute, Yeah, Donna. She runs off for Rayne
Speaker 3: sound check before Kelly even sits down. I mean, that's
Speaker 3: her best friend.
Speaker 1: I thinks seemed peachy with Brandon and Kelly right now,
Speaker 1: which is kind of like a bit jarring to me, Like, okay,
Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, just everything's hunky dory. But
Speaker 1: I'm not mad about it.
Speaker 3: It does feel like they just swept it under the
Speaker 3: rug and didn't really address it or deal with it,
Speaker 3: because there's got to be some residual stuff, you know.
Speaker 3: And is she ever going to find out about Brandon's
Speaker 3: Emily situation?
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: No, Oh my god. I want her to find out.
Speaker 3: I want her to know the truth about where her
Speaker 3: boyfriend is Dylan, and she knows about it.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, true, true. And I guess you were quote
Speaker 1: broken up at the time.
Speaker 3: Uh huh. And I was brainwashed in a cult, so
Speaker 3: I haven't us what's.
Speaker 1: You've recovered from the cult?
Speaker 3: So quickly too, I too, just by snap back, I'm
Speaker 3: a snapperbacker.
Speaker 1: You really are. And then out of nowhere, which I did.
Speaker 1: I understand why we had to, but like, out of nowhere, David,
Speaker 1: did they steal your bike? Like it was just like wait,
Speaker 1: what was that? I know, all of a sudden, it
Speaker 1: was just like what And then you learn, oh, there's
Speaker 1: sort of a crime wave happening.
Speaker 3: And you see that the bushes are jiggling.
Speaker 1: But it was like kind of rando at first.
Speaker 3: I think there was like either a really hungry squirrel
Speaker 3: in the bushes or that's what we're dealing with Pete.
Speaker 1: It was very horror movie that was very like Freddy Krueger.
Speaker 1: Jason is in the bushes kind of a thing, like
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, you sort of see the boots maybe
Speaker 1: at one point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, something's a bruin.
Speaker 1: Is it your inclination that it's the guy from the dorm?
Speaker 1: I'm just curious what you're where your head's at.
Speaker 3: On it the guy from the dorm? What do you mean?
Speaker 1: So you know David's friend? Can you remember he says
Speaker 1: that David's got that weird friend at the dorm.
Speaker 3: Oh, I missed that completely. I just thought it was
Speaker 3: a big sport.
Speaker 1: Jenny, this is gonna be a lot to save your
Speaker 1: comments for Amy talks too much this episode, because look,
Speaker 1: Tory's got a Wi Fi issue, and Jenny has fully forgotten.
Speaker 3: The whole I didn't catch that one part about someone
Speaker 3: being in the dorm, okay. I heard the part about
Speaker 3: the bikes.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'll explain it. So basically, there's this creepy
Speaker 1: guy that Claire doesn't like that David's become friends with.
Speaker 1: He's sort of a former I think he was in
Speaker 1: the army, so he's a bit older, right, and we
Speaker 1: see music Taste, so David hangs out with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we see him a bunch. We're sort of led to
Speaker 1: believe he is the bad guy, right, that he is
Speaker 1: the guy. He's short on money, so we're sort of
Speaker 1: led to believe that he's the one stealing, and he
Speaker 1: actually the FEDS or the cops, I don't know who
Speaker 1: they are. The FBI comes up, and I don't know
Speaker 1: what the FEDS are. I don't know what it's FBI
Speaker 1: and the FEDS.
Speaker 3: The same, that's different letters.
Speaker 1: So no, they come and interrogate him. If I was
Speaker 1: only knowing this episode, it's sort of like a bait
Speaker 1: and switch, Like I don't actually think he's the guy
Speaker 1: because they've made it too obvious he's the guy. So
Speaker 1: I don't think he's the guy, But I wanted to
Speaker 1: see what you thought.
Speaker 3: You're what we call smart, audience. They're gonna have to
Speaker 3: do something really twisted to get you.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to be real tricky catch me all right?
Speaker 3: All right, enough about that, We're at the peach Bit
Speaker 3: after dark. Now. Ray is of course taking a nap
Speaker 3: backstage because that's what musicians do. Uh, and Valerie walks
Speaker 3: in on him conveniently and asks, why haven't you returned
Speaker 3: my calls? Oh, and then she says, it would be
Speaker 3: in your best interest to treat me with respect.
Speaker 4: Just so.
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. And guess what Donna
Speaker 3: walks in.
Speaker 1: I mean, bump, bump bum. It's like before she walked in,
Speaker 1: I was just like, this is a nightmare.
Speaker 3: And my girl does not seem concerned whatsoever. She's just she's.
Speaker 1: All hay valerie, like she's being too doe wide about it,
Speaker 1: but also like she sees the good and everybody.
Speaker 3: Maybe she's ahead of it. I don't know. I'm not
Speaker 3: sure what was going through her mind, but she wasn't
Speaker 3: a little irked that they were hanging out back there together.
Speaker 1: And it's sort of like a weird ending, which will
Speaker 1: get to I don't mean to jump ahead, but like
Speaker 1: at the end of the episode, she almost to me says,
Speaker 1: it's okay, whatever you've done. I don't know, we'll get
Speaker 1: to that. Very Yeah, it's a juicy episode, very juicy.
Speaker 3: Back to see You where stolen BikeE Girl aka Amy
Speaker 3: sort of complaints, Yeah, complaints insurance but refuse to buy
Speaker 3: her another bike, and another student, Lenny, makes fun of her.
Speaker 1: That's the guy that's the friend of David's. That's sort
Speaker 1: of the he's got going to use a collection, and
Speaker 1: Claire is not sold on him.
Speaker 3: You know, Claire always had that. She always has that,
Speaker 3: like you gotta win Claire over before you can get
Speaker 3: in with her. She's little skeptical for some people, which.
Speaker 1: I like hooky. Yeah, skeptical, good word, good word.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then we get to Peter and Peter. I mean they
Speaker 1: are really hot and they are yeah, and they are
Speaker 1: really not being careful about their chushion at last.
Speaker 3: Is not safe at all what's happening.
Speaker 1: It's also very inappropriate at the workplace, Like that's what's
Speaker 1: kind of It's almost like they're doing it right out
Speaker 1: in the open in front of that nurse. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: doesn't don't the other doctors and the people at the
Speaker 1: hospital know he's married.
Speaker 3: And she's married. And yeah, even.
Speaker 1: If they don't know she's married, because she's sort of
Speaker 1: the new I don't even know what her job is there.
Speaker 1: But he's been a strip. Yeah, she's sort of like
Speaker 1: an elevated something almost weird. So I don't know, I
Speaker 1: think he's being way too flagrant about it. Is that
Speaker 1: the word?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah he is, but but it's still fun to.
Speaker 1: And we're to assume they're doing it regularly, right, like, yes,
Speaker 1: only at work, like in the closet or something, I guess.
Speaker 1: And then there's that moment where the nurse almost goes
Speaker 1: in the closet and then she does open the door
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh my only want in here, I
Speaker 1: mean the whole thing. I was just like, oh my god.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, back to the peach Bit. After dark, Rush announces
Speaker 3: to the crowd that the peach Bit is in a
Speaker 3: new ownership, and everyone is shocked to learn it's Valerie.
Speaker 1: First of all, at what club have you ever been
Speaker 1: to where the owner announce comes out and makes any
Speaker 1: kind of announcement, especially like that they've changed owners.
Speaker 3: It's weird, but it had to happen. So everybody knew
Speaker 3: that Valerie was the owner, and of course Donna is
Speaker 3: happy for her and gives her a big fake hug.
Speaker 3: Hot mess, just a hot mess. Meanwhile, Dylan's house, Valerie
Speaker 3: shows up with a bag of weed. Yeah, what a
Speaker 3: good friend?
Speaker 1: Are you to say that word?
Speaker 3: You can say?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: She's so awful?
Speaker 3: She knows he just got out of rehab.
Speaker 1: She is being so bad. I know she's coming over
Speaker 1: with drugs. That is correct, like for all her antics,
Speaker 1: if she wants, if she's cheating, she's cheating, if she's
Speaker 1: whatever she's doing, But like to go over to your
Speaker 1: quote supposed guy you like and give him drugs when
Speaker 1: you know he's sober like that? To me, I was like,
Speaker 1: that's the worst thing.
Speaker 3: And didn't she just flush his drugs down the toilet recently?
Speaker 3: She flushed his little stash down the toilet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, try to clean him up.
Speaker 3: Doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: And it's like, Uh, that's where I just go. She's
Speaker 1: just not redeem it. Why are you doing that? And
Speaker 1: then fine, he doesn't want her drugs, So she takes
Speaker 1: her drugs and leaves the one joint or.
Speaker 3: Whatever on the table, one joint just in just in
Speaker 3: case he changes his mind. That is really messed up.
Speaker 2: Beal.
Speaker 1: She's a bad gal.
Speaker 3: She's not redeemable now at this point, this character is
Speaker 3: not redeemable. I'm sorry. So we're at the wash house
Speaker 3: now and Jim and Cindy can't believe that Valerie could
Speaker 3: get after dark, and Cindy wants to know why why
Speaker 3: isn't she sending money back home to her mom who
Speaker 3: needs it. Steve calls and tells Brandon that three frat
Speaker 3: houses got hit last night and he needs to do
Speaker 3: something about it. I mean, okay, Brandon needs to Just
Speaker 3: did he call? Is he calling the police? Also? Like,
Speaker 3: how come it's Brandon's responsibility? And Brandon just because he's
Speaker 3: the president? Okay, you're right here, right, it's because he's Brandon.
Speaker 1: He is the president of the last school? Is he
Speaker 1: the president of the school? I mean, I get he's
Speaker 1: so but hurt, Like why is everybody calling me? And
Speaker 1: it's like I think this is your one job, Like
Speaker 1: you are the president of the school.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he's on dust fall on him.
Speaker 1: And it's like he should be doing something though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's only Brandon, you know, Walsh, we're trying to
Speaker 3: like run for president. I would vote for him. I
Speaker 3: would vote like president, but I would totally vote for him.
Speaker 3: That's I mean need is a president that looks like
Speaker 3: Brandon Walsh.
Speaker 1: First of all, agree. Second of all, I had a
Speaker 1: conversation the other day about where are the characters now?
Speaker 1: And I actually said that I think Brandon might be
Speaker 1: governor of California. He's very new to me.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh California. Yes me too.
Speaker 1: I think I think you need to write where they
Speaker 1: all are now so we can turn it into something.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I digress.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, thank the Lord serious, you found your WiFi.
Speaker 3: We have tory with us, everybody.
Speaker 1: Thank the Lord is right.
Speaker 2: I was wait wait wait found my WiFi? You lost? Yeah,
Speaker 2: so Spectrum, sorry, I usually love you. Spectrum was out
Speaker 2: since last night, which was a hard thing because you know,
Speaker 2: I don't sleep without TV. So that that was the
Speaker 2: first problem, no Spectrum, and then they said it would
Speaker 2: be back up this morning because I said, we have
Speaker 2: our podcast, but it wasn't, So, you guys, the best
Speaker 2: problem solved and I got in the car and I
Speaker 2: head to Starbucks. But then Starbucks, who always gives you
Speaker 2: free Wi Fi, didn't want to give my computer Wi Fi,
Speaker 2: so I tapped into CVS. Thank you CVS.
Speaker 1: Wait the fact that Torri has a full microphone, you guys,
Speaker 1: to full microphone with a micro flag in her car.
Speaker 2: And you know what, and the only thing I'm like
Speaker 2: mad about right now, you guys, is I'm cool.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we have to post a photo of you, Tori.
Speaker 1: It is so it's iconic. You're literally in your car
Speaker 1: with just a full fledged microphone in.
Speaker 2: La Okay, sorry you guys, so go on. So this
Speaker 2: is one. This is one of my favorite episodes alone
Speaker 2: at the top. So I'm just.
Speaker 1: There's never a time I want the paparazzi to walk
Speaker 1: by you more than right now. It would be.
Speaker 3: Jen caption this, Oh caption this. I'm not going to
Speaker 3: touch that with a ten foot.
Speaker 2: Pole, because an eight foot pole maybe.
Speaker 3: Noway from it topic. It's hilarious, though, I will really
Speaker 3: want somebody to get a picture of.
Speaker 2: You then is and only Jen would know this is
Speaker 2: me hanging out with a microphone out of the car
Speaker 2: would be the least my worries in my car.
Speaker 3: That's true that that's so funny.
Speaker 2: She loves my hot mess of a car. Any But
Speaker 2: you know what the good news is, anything and everything
Speaker 2: you could ever want it's in there. Like, hey, hey, fan, aids,
Speaker 2: don't worry, I got them right here. Not as fall
Speaker 2: for aids.
Speaker 1: Very amazing. Okay, so where were we, Jenny? Where were we?
Speaker 3: Oh well, let's go back to the peach bed after dark,
Speaker 3: where Rush announces that Val is the new owner of
Speaker 3: the peach pit after dark, and you seem happy for
Speaker 3: her and give her a big fake hug.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so I'd like to I have a question.
Speaker 2: I believe this is the first episode that my hair
Speaker 2: is this length.
Speaker 3: Sure it was last episode, wasn't not?
Speaker 2: The well pieces are gone from the end. It's like
Speaker 2: full on boy in the back.
Speaker 3: Sure, and you hated my short haircut, correct, So, but
Speaker 3: that's you.
Speaker 2: I'm a giving friend. This is about me, and it
Speaker 2: was terrible. And what happened was I went to just
Speaker 2: get my bob whatever it was trimmed at the time,
Speaker 2: and the hairstell is listening, and he took it all off.
Speaker 2: And I sat there, not saying anything, just silently crying
Speaker 2: because you know how I loathed not having any hair
Speaker 2: to do anything with. It was already hard having it
Speaker 2: semi short with a bo Anyway.
Speaker 3: It's short. It's short this episode. Ye'll go it' choppy.
Speaker 2: If you look in the back, it's a real hot
Speaker 2: mesk because he screwed up real bad.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. So you walk in on
Speaker 3: Ray and Val they're together in the back room there backstage,
Speaker 3: and you didn't you didn't you're fine that part of
Speaker 3: go to the hug that happened first, you're just sort
Speaker 3: of like, no, the oblivious too, Like.
Speaker 2: Oh, when I came in and I was like dinner,
Speaker 2: but I just left school campus, right, yeah, and I
Speaker 2: really wanted to see Dylan and Donna but didn't get
Speaker 2: to Okay, cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So you are okay with it.
Speaker 2: So I was okay with it. So I don't want
Speaker 2: to jump to the end because I know that there's
Speaker 2: everyone over there too.
Speaker 1: I wanted to do.
Speaker 3: We're at the beach pit.
Speaker 2: After I'm going to go out on a limb here
Speaker 2: and I'm going to say, Donna, no.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Tori. I totally agree with you.
Speaker 1: I briefly said this and we can talk about it more,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, she basically says, it's okay what you did.
Speaker 1: We love each other and we're gonna make it work now.
Speaker 2: It was so like of all fifties housewife, like you know,
Speaker 2: but you don't know, and you're just making a good
Speaker 2: home home.
Speaker 3: Life for your kind of like your haircut.
Speaker 2: Yeah on point, I'm.
Speaker 1: So glad we sort of see it the same.
Speaker 2: It's a hug, she gives her. I didn't agree with
Speaker 2: that hug. It was just I came an awkward in
Speaker 2: that dress from the wrong step. I wish I had
Speaker 2: gone in.
Speaker 3: Deeper with that hug, just to like let her know.
Speaker 2: Not it just would have been so Donna like. It
Speaker 2: wasn't a Donna hug. It was like from far away,
Speaker 2: like I'm a hugger. Donna and I were huggers. Oh.
Speaker 1: I think Donna's more inclined to forgive Valerie or Ray.
Speaker 3: Good question, Ray, Does she have to forgive either of them?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Great question. I don't think it's about forgiveness to her.
Speaker 2: I think she just is making a choice. Well, we'll
Speaker 2: see in later episodes. I don't think she forgives Valerie,
Speaker 2: but Ray, Yeah, she forgives him.
Speaker 3: We'll go back. We're back at the cu is where
Speaker 3: we are and there's some thievery going on, and Kelly's
Speaker 3: walking with her new best friend Amy never seen her before,
Speaker 3: and once again, someone is looking at them through the bushes.
Speaker 3: Did you love the part where someone was in the bushes.
Speaker 2: Of course, you know, I'll have a good peeper.
Speaker 1: The bushes rustled.
Speaker 2: Do you think he was wearing a coat?
Speaker 3: Ha ha ha ha, No, who is it, I know.
Speaker 1: And we're to believe it's Lenny, Poor.
Speaker 3: Lenny, he's the Yeah, he's everybody's blaming Lenny at.
Speaker 2: This point, stealing bikes and then we're.
Speaker 3: Learning, yeah, we're learning about his problems.
Speaker 1: But it's a bait and sweat.
Speaker 2: He's just a red haring you guys, In case you
Speaker 2: guys don't know what a red herring is, what's a
Speaker 2: red herring?
Speaker 3: You tell me? I was waiting to find out.
Speaker 2: I don't know from way back why they called it red.
Speaker 2: But it's like through a movie or a book when
Speaker 2: they lead you to believe that the villain, let's say,
Speaker 2: is someone and then it's like plot twist, it was
Speaker 2: someone else, and then it's kind of the bait and switch.
Speaker 2: Like Amy said, so we've read herrings, we have bait
Speaker 2: and switch. It's all fishing terminology. We'll have to look
Speaker 2: that up.
Speaker 3: That's interesting.
Speaker 1: It's juicy. The juicy move too would be the double double, right,
Speaker 1: so they make you think it's Leney. Then you're like, no,
Speaker 1: it's not Leney. Oh my god, it was Lenny. You know.
Speaker 3: That's like reverse reverse psychology.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whoa, it was a double double, but anyone else
Speaker 2: get the double double. It really f's you up? Like
Speaker 2: it's a double shot. There you go, singer.
Speaker 3: Back to the peach bit. Ray comes looking for Valerie,
Speaker 3: who is next door installing a dartboard. Wow, really bring
Speaker 3: in business.
Speaker 1: One flag we forgot Andrea that Jesse is on the phone,
Speaker 1: like how much he misses her or whatever. Knock knock, knock,
Speaker 1: and Peter's at the.
Speaker 3: Door, and Jesse says, who's that? Who was my grandma?
Speaker 1: Like, it's just like my grandma.
Speaker 2: These two lie Grandma, I do Grandma.
Speaker 3: I gotta say I like it, but I don't like
Speaker 3: Andrea lying.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get over it a little bit.
Speaker 3: Is that fir I am?
Speaker 1: Why do I feel you're still into it? I'm not
Speaker 1: into it. I almost sort of just wish Peter was
Speaker 1: her boyfriend. I'm into the whole like cheating part of it,
Speaker 1: right right, it's gross and it's so not Andrea.
Speaker 3: No, like, it's so not Andrea. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But well, if we could go back in time and
Speaker 2: she wasn't pregnant in real life and they need to
Speaker 2: speed up the storyline, we probably could have had Peter
Speaker 2: as her boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Now I'm more amused by the storyline than like I
Speaker 1: don't hate it, like I am just so disgusted by Valerie.
Speaker 3: But anyway, okay, sorry, So back to the peach pit
Speaker 3: where we're seeing Ray and val again, and Valerie gives
Speaker 3: him an ultimatum either he sleeps with her or he
Speaker 3: cannot perform there anymore. Huh.
Speaker 2: I see that couldn't bet you guys, Like, what the
Speaker 2: hell she's already had on you?
Speaker 1: Can we get to her sight?
Speaker 3: She want him so bad? Yes, I think she's like
Speaker 3: the type of girl that wants what she can't have
Speaker 3: or what she's not supposed to have.
Speaker 2: Wants Dylan. She wants Dylan. She's not taking him down,
Speaker 2: and he's like, oh, it's lonely at the top.
Speaker 1: She is trying to take him down though she said
Speaker 1: gave him drugs.
Speaker 2: She is trying to take him down. You're right, You're right,
Speaker 2: you're right. Just tossed it there, sleep well, okay, Yeah, And.
Speaker 3: Then Valerie tells Claire and David that they need to
Speaker 3: book other people than Ray to get in some new
Speaker 3: blood because now she's a little pissy about it.
Speaker 1: What is wrong with her?
Speaker 3: Let's go to Bruno's restaurant, shall we?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: My God, let's do it.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're saying it's brunos, because to me it
Speaker 1: was like the palm or like, wasn't it like one
Speaker 1: of those just.
Speaker 3: Little like steakhouse probably the poem Russian Steve meet there
Speaker 3: for their you know, weekly father son dinner and Steve
Speaker 3: actually asks his dad if he slept with Valerie. Fair question,
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, but should his son have to ask
Speaker 3: his father? That so gross? So gross?
Speaker 1: And I like how rash is just like shutting it
Speaker 1: down and he's like, no, dude, no, And it's a
Speaker 1: negotiation I have with her, and here's your cut, and
Speaker 1: all was sudden. All is right in the world, bring
Speaker 1: me the t bone.
Speaker 3: Steve is like, I don't mind it all now.
Speaker 2: I have a question if we go back, if Valerie
Speaker 2: did want to sleep with them, do you think he
Speaker 2: would have no?
Speaker 1: I actually do not, because he basically says that when
Speaker 1: she when he thinks it, he's like, I'm old.
Speaker 2: Enough to be your father, right, But if you call
Speaker 2: it out, then you can move on and do it.
Speaker 1: Maybe. But I don't think he's that creepy.
Speaker 3: He's got some sort of moral backbone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think her outfit she could have gone
Speaker 2: a little more revealing.
Speaker 3: I think that her opening outfit.
Speaker 2: He got the shoes, and the shoes and the tights
Speaker 2: or nose rosary hosiery.
Speaker 3: So that happened. And then you guys, we see Dylan
Speaker 3: at the public park and he's walking a little nervous
Speaker 3: and he tries to light a weed cigarette. Why am
Speaker 3: I calling it a weed cigarette joint?
Speaker 2: Till you did?
Speaker 3: I know it's a joint, y'all. Dylan is trying to
Speaker 3: light his joint. But what happens because wind, the wind
Speaker 3: se tour the thing is, I am I didn't I
Speaker 3: watched the whole episode, but I can't remember much of
Speaker 3: it because how well medicine last night. So the wind
Speaker 3: knocks out the joint.
Speaker 2: I can't remember the episode because how little I was
Speaker 2: in it.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, do you think I was gonna say that?
Speaker 1: Oh my god?
Speaker 2: Okay, fair, fair, Okay.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the wind is a twist of fate.
Speaker 3: Okay, I love that.
Speaker 2: And do you think that's another callback to alone at
Speaker 2: the top, because when you're at the top of something,
Speaker 2: it's windier than it is low. No, I don't know, No, over,
Speaker 2: I think I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think that, but there is a power, an unknown
Speaker 3: an ah, there's a power in the wind and the
Speaker 3: force and the energy.
Speaker 2: That maybe Jack McKay just had a frame because he's
Speaker 2: not really dead, just went and blew it out.
Speaker 3: Yep, he's not dead.
Speaker 1: What do you mean to.
Speaker 2: I don't know. The whole thing is a red herring.
Speaker 2: It's a double double, maybe a triple, and then we'll
Speaker 2: get to the plot to us.
Speaker 3: Oh god, it's too much for me.
Speaker 1: That's a full acting head move. He really performed that,
Speaker 1: really good.
Speaker 3: So we go to the beach house. Donna is shocked
Speaker 3: when Claire tells her that Valerie doesn't want Ray performing
Speaker 3: at the peach bit, and Donna feels that David has
Speaker 3: stabbed Ray in the back.
Speaker 2: Ray, do you like see it's not valid at all.
Speaker 2: It's David. No blame someone, Yeah, and who is than David.
Speaker 2: I don't want to blame David. I don't want to
Speaker 2: blame Claire for both of their haircuts right now for
Speaker 2: me to look at them right now, But we're getting some.
Speaker 1: I'm so just irritated by the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Then we go to Ray's house and we try to, like,
Speaker 3: you know, find out a little bit more about Ray's
Speaker 3: backstory and why he asks the way he does, and
Speaker 3: his mom tells him that he is just like his dad.
Speaker 3: Times get tough and he runs away, but Ray says
Speaker 3: he doesn't want to hurt Donna and he has to
Speaker 3: leave town. Lewan tells Ray to honor his commitment and
Speaker 3: perform at the club for the last time and give
Speaker 3: Donna kiss so she remembers you.
Speaker 2: Kiss.
Speaker 3: It better be a good kiss.
Speaker 2: I tried to look back.
Speaker 1: Okay, it was like a medium kiss. But it will
Speaker 1: get to that.
Speaker 2: It was cold out you guys, your.
Speaker 1: Little dress was very little. We'll get to that. Is
Speaker 1: this where we meet Charlie the like he seems like
Speaker 1: he's the sponsor or, the sort of his AA sponsor.
Speaker 3: Okay, that all right? They had a predetermined meat time
Speaker 3: and then so they go to a diner and meat.
Speaker 3: Is that what's happening?
Speaker 1: Well, I think doesn't he go visit him at his motel?
Speaker 1: I think Charlie works the front desk at the family's motel,
Speaker 1: is how I interpreted it. Oh, and then Dylan goes
Speaker 1: there to see him, and Charlie's kind of like, oh,
Speaker 1: first time I've seen you, and they kind of have
Speaker 1: the talk of I almost lit up the joint, but
Speaker 1: the wind and it's kind of like you gotta get
Speaker 1: over Kelly bro. That's kind of my reenact.
Speaker 3: Wow, I feel like I've watched the whole show now.
Speaker 2: Thank yeah, you're Wellow. I think thanks for performing that.
Speaker 2: That was good.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Yeah, and I thought I wasn't
Speaker 1: mad about It's like, you know, we need to address
Speaker 1: his sobriety and also this. You know, I don't need
Speaker 1: him going falling off the wagon.
Speaker 2: I don't need him falling off the wagon.
Speaker 3: I do not need nobody.
Speaker 2: I do need the clothes to get his wardrobe to
Speaker 2: get better. And it seems like when he's sober, he's
Speaker 2: wearing you guys, I'm so sorry. I cannot take the clothes.
Speaker 3: What's he wearing? What's bothering you?
Speaker 2: Well, it's just the jacket, but then there's like a
Speaker 2: polo show at times, it's the button ups. It's just
Speaker 2: like a whole different vibe. I just want the white
Speaker 2: T shirt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it hasn't been bothering me, but it hasn't been
Speaker 1: standing out to me.
Speaker 3: You really need to let go of the old Dylan
Speaker 3: and let the new Dylan shine through because he's trying
Speaker 3: to reinvent himself.
Speaker 2: I wonder if there was a compromise though, yeah maybe, yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll see.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Charlie tells him that he needs to let
Speaker 3: Kelly go back at the old SEU.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, do you think he's gonna let her go?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna let her go.
Speaker 2: No wait what hold on? You're going to my numbers,
Speaker 2: but my colors.
Speaker 3: If it's driving him to want to use then he's
Speaker 3: got to do the personal work that's the underlying issue,
Speaker 3: and that means he needs to go without her.
Speaker 2: No, so Bridey has to come first. I understand that.
Speaker 2: I get that, okay, But in his heart, he's not
Speaker 2: gonna let her go.
Speaker 3: No. I don't think they'll ever let each other go,
Speaker 3: But there you go. Brandon complains to Kelly that he's
Speaker 3: tired of people coming to him over campus safety. Well,
Speaker 3: why the heck are you the president?
Speaker 1: Exactly? Bro, this is your one job basically, and also
Speaker 1: you love it exactly, You've been.
Speaker 2: Do it and gets off on itat.
Speaker 1: And it's weird that he's suddenly all complaining about it.
Speaker 1: Very strange.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is where you heard the rumbling right right, Kelly,
Speaker 3: here's a rumble and the bushes. Yeah, and then there's
Speaker 3: a man holding a knife.
Speaker 2: What oh, we're getting so melrose Place. I love it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I know I liked it too. Yeah, very Melrosie.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 3: Amy, not the Samy. The Amy in the show packs
Speaker 3: up her stuff and tells Claire and David and Lenny
Speaker 3: that she's leaving school because it isn't safe anymore. And
Speaker 3: she says a student was raped in the bushes behind
Speaker 3: the South Quad.
Speaker 1: Who I know is terrifying dark turn.
Speaker 3: Wait, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Why is school still open the asht Town classes?
Speaker 1: No, I don't think they do that. They definitely try
Speaker 1: to get the police on it.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a real thing.
Speaker 3: Then Lenny walks in, you guys, and the camera pans
Speaker 3: down to his shoes, which look like the shoes that
Speaker 3: belong to the man in the bushes with the knife.
Speaker 3: Don't dum so good. I don't even have to watch
Speaker 3: this show. Why I can read these breakdowns and see
Speaker 3: it all in my head.
Speaker 1: If you here's what I'll say, though, I did an
Speaker 1: experiment last night. A couple nights ago, when I watched this,
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, what. I'm just gonna watch it.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to take any note now, I'm just
Speaker 1: going to watch it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, me every time I was so missed in.
Speaker 1: I literally after was just like, why is this not
Speaker 1: on the air, Like this should.
Speaker 2: Be a show like anymore? Yeah, like old, I.
Speaker 1: Know, bring it back. I think, Tori, you missed where
Speaker 1: I said Brandon would be governor of California. That's how
Speaker 1: I'm writing characters. Yeah, but like this show is juicy.
Speaker 1: I could watch this now.
Speaker 3: I know it's hard. We watch it as fans, but
Speaker 3: we also when we're working, I mean Amy and I
Speaker 3: we watch it and we stop every few seconds to
Speaker 3: write something down, and then you have to go back
Speaker 3: and you ruins.
Speaker 2: It's And I tried to fit in with them and
Speaker 2: try to do that, and no, it was so hard
Speaker 2: and I just it took me out of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not as fun to watch it. I enjoyed
Speaker 1: just doing it this other way, this one time, being
Speaker 1: like you know what, I want to just enjoy this,
Speaker 1: and boy did I.
Speaker 3: It is a great episode.
Speaker 2: So what you're saying, Yeah, it's not like nine O
Speaker 2: two one oh Jumped the Shark. It did turn into
Speaker 2: a different type of show. But that type of show
Speaker 2: then could totally be on the air as a show
Speaker 2: now so completely I'm smart ahead of our time.
Speaker 3: Oh I need it back, bring it back, I will.
Speaker 3: I'll take it back to the peach pit. Okay, it
Speaker 3: doesn't need to know.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Also, rewrite the show and bring it back.
Speaker 3: Now she heard you know what you're saying. I was
Speaker 3: trying to change the subject. Ray WARN's Valerie to stay
Speaker 3: away from Donna or he'll tell her the truth. That
Speaker 3: doesn't seem like a smart plan.
Speaker 1: I feel like he should tell her the truth. I'm
Speaker 1: so sick of this.
Speaker 2: He was going to you guys, he was stepping up.
Speaker 2: He was gonna tell her the truth.
Speaker 3: Dylan comes to give Valerie her weed back and says
Speaker 3: his plans don't include her. Done finished period, love that.
Speaker 3: Kelly sees David and tells him that she appreciates him
Speaker 3: and makes him promise that he'll always be her friend.
Speaker 3: Why why are they having this moment of.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, there's gonna be a reason. Hold on, there's
Speaker 2: a reason for everything.
Speaker 3: What where is this coming from? Is this something like.
Speaker 2: I don't know he was your brother now he's not
Speaker 2: your brother just because they got.
Speaker 3: Ill always be her brother. But like, why is she
Speaker 3: taking this moment too?
Speaker 2: There's a reason.
Speaker 3: Okay. Back at the hospital, Peter tells Andrea that he
Speaker 3: has keys to a hotel.
Speaker 1: Creepy, creepy.
Speaker 2: I know why Kelly appreciates him. It's foreshadowing next episode.
Speaker 1: Keep going, oh, because oh you're right, because uh huh
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, because he yep, I think, well this.
Speaker 3: Is you know that because you've already watched the next episode,
Speaker 3: or you remember she.
Speaker 1: Remembers because it's a big Donna episode, right, Tori?
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, okay, because it's all about you that makes
Speaker 3: you remembered it.
Speaker 2: Now, in my mind, I thought it feels good.
Speaker 1: I had a moment where I thought it was Kelly,
Speaker 1: but it's Donna. Yep. Okay, continue cute, Okay, even Andrea
Speaker 1: knows the motel is a creepy little row and just
Speaker 1: beneath her.
Speaker 3: And Gross is it a hotel or a motel?
Speaker 1: It's a no tell motel.
Speaker 3: Gross, I would not as cute as he is.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: Back on campus, David and Claire invite Lenny to sit
Speaker 3: down with them when the LAPD detective shows up and
Speaker 3: tells him to come with m David and Clara left
Speaker 3: wondering is he the rapist everyone has been looking for.
Speaker 1: I don't think he is.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Back at the peach Bit, Raytail's done,
Speaker 3: he's leaving town because he's booked other gigs. WHOA, that's
Speaker 3: kind of a shocker. I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like a big deal back then
Speaker 1: because think about like we didn't really have cell phones.
Speaker 1: There's no email in texting.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, you'd have to like literally write a letter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you can't piece touch as well as we
Speaker 1: can now now. It's like, look, I see you in
Speaker 1: two weeks. Who cares.
Speaker 3: I used to go on locations during this time and
Speaker 3: I would fax my husband whatever, he was, my boyfriend,
Speaker 3: baby daddy that I would fax Peter. We would fax Peter,
Speaker 3: be each other, back and forth, and we had I
Speaker 3: had have a fax machine in my trailer that was
Speaker 3: like part of my thing, and he would fax me
Speaker 3: like poems and pictures.
Speaker 1: It was so cute.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wait, so when you go out of town when you
Speaker 2: were married to your first husband, what did you do?
Speaker 2: You didn't fax them, which is why I enter Peter Fascinelli.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't my fax machine was broken on that.
Speaker 2: It was fair, Thank god. We were all very happy
Speaker 2: when a fax machine broke during that time, not with Peter.
Speaker 1: Before you could drop pictures.
Speaker 3: I think I still have them. I still have them somewhere.
Speaker 3: But the thing is because I wanted to show the
Speaker 3: girls you know that we did love each other. See.
Speaker 3: But the ink on a fax machine isn't forever. I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna tell you. It goes away like faith so
Speaker 3: much you can't even see what it was.
Speaker 2: You guys, remember when you would like like xerox your
Speaker 2: butt and then sign and send someone.
Speaker 3: I remember xeroxeeing my boobs.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, shut up, she's saying this and it's all
Speaker 2: coming back to me, and I remember her xeroxying her
Speaker 2: boobs and me xeroxing my butt and then really faxt know,
Speaker 2: we're being like, you know, kind of like eh, and
Speaker 2: like we signed it, and then no one else laughs
Speaker 2: and we're like, cool.
Speaker 3: Let's throw that away.
Speaker 1: Wait, oh my god, I've never done anything like that
Speaker 1: in my life.
Speaker 3: Well, we can go to Kinko's right now.
Speaker 2: I mean, oh my.
Speaker 1: God, But I do remember when xeroxing was such a
Speaker 1: big thing, the big Xerox machine at We're huge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe just do it in the front office just
Speaker 2: to pass the time, and.
Speaker 1: It's pretty hilarious.
Speaker 3: We would do as much destruction in the front office
Speaker 3: as we could, moving their papers around, Yeah, eating their food.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Back to the peach bit, Ray tells Donna that he's
Speaker 3: leaving town because he's booked other gigs. He tells her
Speaker 3: that he loves her, but there's something else that he
Speaker 3: needs to tell her, and Donna doesn't let him finish.
Speaker 3: He says that's all she needs to know.
Speaker 2: Hm. Now, I was wondering at the time because I'm
Speaker 2: sorry who directed this episode?
Speaker 1: Lobel Victor Lobel.
Speaker 3: Okay ring a Bell.
Speaker 2: Nope, So I don't know. I was just curious, like,
Speaker 2: did someone say to me, like, hey, just know in
Speaker 2: the back of your head, like when you're telling him,
Speaker 2: you know, so say it with confidence and you're fine.
Speaker 2: I feel like, nope, nope.
Speaker 1: Were you made the decision?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh my god did for me?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean you could take it two different ways, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I really took it as like she was, like.
Speaker 3: I did too, I know, and that honestly reminds me
Speaker 3: more of you than of Donna totally yeah, but you.
Speaker 1: Were like yeah, I know basically or also that he
Speaker 1: was going to go off and do what he was
Speaker 1: going to do and you were going to stay with him.
Speaker 2: And it was what Jen saying is it probably was
Speaker 2: written as a Donna like it's okay, like I love you,
Speaker 2: but like it was delivered as a toy, which I
Speaker 2: know exactly what went on, but I love you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that toy that I loves to see come out.
Speaker 2: She does mm hmmm, juicy, she encourages that strong woman.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, oh yes, And that's the episode, you guys.
Speaker 3: That's it. So now I don't know what happens. I
Speaker 3: really apologize if I was a little blank in some spaces,
Speaker 3: but I really feel like I watched it now that
Speaker 3: that we've done this, thank you.
Speaker 1: It's a very good episode. It really is really nice. Well,
Speaker 1: now I'm starting to remember next week?
Speaker 2: Does it go down next week?
Speaker 3: Or I think oh I think.
Speaker 1: It's next week. No, I think it's next week. Is
Speaker 1: Love Hurts at the Apartment?
Speaker 4: Right? Oh?
Speaker 3: No, yeah, okay, our next episode is episode twenty three
Speaker 3: Love Hurts You guys. I feel like this one might
Speaker 3: be tough to watch.
Speaker 2: Oh no, So it's happening for multiple people. Love hurts
Speaker 2: I think, I say, is this it for Peter and Madris?
Speaker 3: Oh, maybe Brandon and Kelly And I don't know.
Speaker 1: I can't remember all the details, but I definitely love
Speaker 1: it though.
Speaker 3: I love it though when a show, like a title
Speaker 3: or a theme for the specific show is in everybody's
Speaker 3: storylines in some manifestation, I love that. So I'm hoping
Speaker 3: this that's what it is?
Speaker 2: Do you want? Can I just point something odd out
Speaker 2: to you guys, And I know everyone won't visually see this,
Speaker 2: what you guys will get it. So as you know,
Speaker 2: my dad smoked a pipe for years. That was his thing,
Speaker 2: and he quit eventually, but he always had his pipe
Speaker 2: and he would talk to you and like hey, babe,
Speaker 2: and like I haven't seen a real, like old fashioned
Speaker 2: pipe in years. And I'm right next to Starbucks. I'm looking.
Speaker 2: There's a man and he has like my dad's glasses
Speaker 2: on a gray hair and needs looking his pipe.
Speaker 3: It's so bizarre he's there. Hello. Those are the things
Speaker 3: that you have to just stay open to and pick up. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and they make you feel good. It happens all day
Speaker 3: if you notice it. Ah, that's so cool. Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: We were talking about that, like when you lose something
Speaker 3: or someone. Sorry we're off on a tangent right now,
Speaker 3: but like when you see signs that remind you of
Speaker 3: someone or that you like. For the longest time, I
Speaker 3: kept seeing Paul Wagner, our producer who we were very
Speaker 3: close with. He died and I would see him all
Speaker 3: the time and I'd be like, wait, that was Paul,
Speaker 3: and I'd be like, wait, no, Paul's dead. It happens
Speaker 3: a lot if you just if you're open to like
Speaker 3: the what if you have those feelings, I just say
Speaker 3: go with it and let it make you feel better
Speaker 3: than bad, because I know when I lost my dad,
Speaker 3: it took me a good three or four years to
Speaker 3: even feel him or see him. And then now it's
Speaker 3: like constantly.
Speaker 2: When things are going really like a moment I need him,
Speaker 2: I will. My dad's pipe smoke was a very distinct
Speaker 2: one and I smell it and I thought I was
Speaker 2: like crazy for and then one time my brother told me,
Speaker 2: He's like, you're gonna think this is wild, but Dad's
Speaker 2: pipe smoke, and I was like, wait, it's happened to me,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: Jen.
Speaker 3: I love that. And on that note, well, let's get wait,
Speaker 3: what do you guys rate it?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I don't know how to rate it if I didn't
Speaker 3: see it with my eyeballs all the way through Tory.
Speaker 1: What do you get it?
Speaker 2: I want to give it a ten, but like, but
Speaker 2: next week.
Speaker 3: Is I'm going to give it a ten too, because
Speaker 3: what I did watch I really liked the sneaky thing
Speaker 3: in the bushes and.
Speaker 2: It's just all going on, and the fact that the
Speaker 2: two of you are taking a moment from Jen at
Speaker 2: least Amy is for writing her notes and being in
Speaker 2: the moment, like makes me really happy at this point
Speaker 2: that you guys are into the show like this, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're feeling it.
Speaker 1: It's real good.
Speaker 3: Well we're gonna feel it next week. Love hurts everybody
Speaker 3: watch it and we will see you there.