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Speaker 2: college football season and things are gonna get a little

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Speaker 2: more interesting. We started the day today when we had

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Speaker 2: eleven undefeated teams left at the FBS level. We're down

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Speaker 2: to ten after Penn State's disappointing loss. Now, look, were

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Speaker 2: they gonna win in the shoe? Probably not. But when

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Speaker 2: you watched Ohio State and honestly, the final score was

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Speaker 2: not an indicator. Ohio State dominated this matchup against Penn State.

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Speaker 2: I have to ask this question, and I our buddy

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Speaker 2: Jonas Knox I thought talked about this a little bit

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Speaker 2: earlier show. If you're a Penn State fan, this is

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Speaker 2: a program whose history is amongst the all time elite.

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Speaker 2: If you go back to the Joe Pod days, they

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Speaker 2: joined the Big Ten. They even had an undefeated season

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Speaker 2: in the Big Ten back in the mid nineties, nineteen

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Speaker 2: ninety four, Kerry Collins, Kajna Carter, that group right there.

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Speaker 2: But you find yourself at Penn State hoping to be

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Speaker 2: at the level of Ohio State and Michigan you're not.

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Speaker 2: James Franklin is now one to nine against Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: You are in the Wisconsin Iowa bracket. Michigan State when

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Speaker 2: they have a decent team, that's that next tier bracket

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Speaker 2: in the Big Ten. If you're a Penn State guy,

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Speaker 2: and of course on Sundays I work with one on

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Speaker 2: rich Ornberger. But if you're a Penn State guy and

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Speaker 2: our buddy LeVar Arrington, he can't be happy with this.

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Speaker 2: Don't you expect more? And if James Franklin can't get

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Speaker 2: you to that next level, aren't you looking for the

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Speaker 2: coach that can.

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Speaker 3: You definitely expect more. And watching that game, when you

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Speaker 3: look at it, it wasn't like they got boat raced

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Speaker 3: by Ohio State. It was a one score game and

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Speaker 3: so there were plenty of opportunities there. So I don't

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Speaker 3: want to go all in. They're terrible outside of as

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Speaker 3: Gus likes to call them, the maserati marvs Marvin Harris junior,

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Speaker 3: who had over one hundred and forty yards receiving. Ohio

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Speaker 3: State didn't really do anything so at home. Penn State's

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Speaker 3: defense on the road played well enough for them to win.

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Speaker 3: Now their quarterback, on the other hand, missed a lot

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Speaker 3: of wide open, open receivers, so if anything has to

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Speaker 3: be addressed, it'd be for whatever reason, the lack of

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Speaker 3: chemistry between the quarterback and everyone else on the field,

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Speaker 3: because it was off by a mile, never really gave

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Speaker 3: them an opportunity to get into a rhythm. A big

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Speaker 3: play in the game was the sack, fumble, scoop and

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Speaker 3: score for Penn State that was negated by someone holding

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Speaker 3: the aforementioned Marvin Harrison junior in the middle of the field.

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Speaker 3: So when I looked at the game, I said, Okay,

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Speaker 3: well they get that score. We got a whole different

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Speaker 3: ball game. So I'm not ready to throw them out

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Speaker 3: the window yet. But that quarterback play the rhythm of

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Speaker 3: the offense. In order for them to rebound from this,

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Speaker 4: To switch up. They have to change that, because, I mean,

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Speaker 4: it was hard to watch.

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Speaker 2: This Penn State football program is in iidle look Alabama

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Speaker 2: was in this situation for years, right. They had a

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Speaker 2: little ups and downs after Bear Bryan passed away Jeans

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Speaker 2: Stalling's won a national championship, but they wanted to be

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Speaker 2: a lead again and they went after Nick Saban, who

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Speaker 2: had a proven track record at the collegiate level. Ohio

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Speaker 2: State when they went after Urban Meyer USC with a

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Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley. If you're an elite program, Jim Harbaugh going

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Speaker 2: back to Michigan took a few years, but he's got

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Speaker 2: Michigan back on track. You need an elite coach. James

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Speaker 2: Franklin is not. He's got plenty of time to figure

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Speaker 2: this out at Penn State, but they're just like a flatline.

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Speaker 2: Today was the day because Ohio State's got a new quarterback.

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Speaker 2: They're no, you know, world beaters by Ohio State run center,

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Speaker 2: and they have the best receiver in college football, Marvin Harrison.

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Speaker 2: Jail Well, he might be. He's not quite on my

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Speaker 2: list yet, he's getting there. He's getting there. I'll have

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Speaker 4: They don't win the game, Oh.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. I mean he's I'm waiting a

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Speaker 2: little bit still for that next level. But that being said,

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Speaker 2: when you look at this Penn State program. I expect

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Speaker 2: more and James Franklin is just not delivering. So while

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Speaker 2: that's going on, by the way, Oregon has just scored again.

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Speaker 2: Oregon's struggling in this game at home against Washington State.

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Speaker 2: And actually, when you think about it, it makes sense.

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Speaker 2: You have Oregon coming off that hugely disappointing loss in Seattle,

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Speaker 2: And then Washington State just got boat raced at home

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Speaker 2: State by a score of thirty to sixteen. And then

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Speaker 2: we're watching this Alabama Tennessee game, and this is a

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Speaker 2: game that figured to be tight because again Alabama is

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Speaker 2: stressed offensively. They were down twenty to seven at a

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Speaker 2: and they do just that touchdown tied. Now, this is

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Speaker 2: what we call coaching. This is a Nick Saban who's

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Speaker 2: down twenty to seven at half time Tennessee. The stats

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Speaker 2: were even more one sided in favor of the volunteers.

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Speaker 2: And this is a man that's not going to panic.

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Speaker 2: He's going to make the necessary moves. And they have

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Speaker 2: shut down Tennessee's offense in the second half, and now

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's what you call a good cussin at halftime,

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Speaker 3: business verbally, maybe smash a chair, whatever that is, whatever

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Speaker 3: Nick Saban's style is. And they came out and they

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Speaker 3: answered right away. First drive, long, long, long, broken coverage touchdown.

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Speaker 4: So this is.

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Speaker 3: As you were saying, and the point you were making,

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Speaker 3: this is what superior coaching does. When your team isn't

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Speaker 3: clicking like it's opposed to, then you have to change

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Speaker 3: the message, you have to change the energy, whatever that

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Speaker 3: see that from Penn State, but we obviously have seen

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Speaker 3: it from a Nick Sabin led Alabama.

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Speaker 2: All right, so the extra point is good. Alabama is

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Speaker 2: now taking a twenty four to twenty lead against Tennessee. Again,

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Speaker 2: Tennessee dominating most of this game, but right now four

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Speaker 2: time of the college football season where we get more

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Speaker 2: and more critical games each week. We're in the depths

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Speaker 2: a step back here, Ephraim, because keep in mind what

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Speaker 2: we're watching this season in college football. We're not going

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Speaker 2: to see again. Essentially everything that we've known about college

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Speaker 2: football in terms of conferences and teams here and there

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Speaker 2: looking at a whole new world next year in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four. We're not gonna have a four school playoff.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have a twelve school playoff. We're going to

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Speaker 2: have a bunch of pack twelve schools scattered all over

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Speaker 2: the country. We're gonna see Texas and Oklahoma moving to

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Speaker 2: the SEC. You will literally need a college football map

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Speaker 2: to figure out where everybody is these days in terms

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Speaker 2: of conference alignment. So I'm looking at this is sort

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Speaker 2: of like the last season of college football as we've

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Speaker 2: known it over the years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's love it or hated. It's going to be different,

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Speaker 3: completely different next year. I'm still maybe one of the

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Speaker 3: few that don't think they're twelve teams at any given

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Speaker 3: year that deserve to fight for a national championship.

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Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 4: Give me eight and I'm okay, but twelve.

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Speaker 3: I don't think a three loss team should ever be

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Speaker 4: That's not elite enough.

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Speaker 3: I think in order to have that type of opportunity,

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Speaker 3: you need to have showcased that you can dominate, no

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Speaker 3: matter which conference, no matter what level, you can dominate.

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Speaker 3: Losing three out of twelve games in college football, that's

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Speaker 3: not domination.

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Speaker 2: But even from we have this in all sports. Think

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Speaker 2: about the league baseball playoffs this year. The teams with

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Speaker 2: the top five records of Major League Baseball got bounced

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Speaker 2: in the first round.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's basically.

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Speaker 2: Three teams that win at least one hundred games this

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Speaker 2: year were one to nine in the playoffs. You only

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Speaker 2: can We've got an eighty four win Arizona team, two

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Speaker 2: wins away from the World Series.

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Speaker 4: Football is the only sports you play once a week.

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Speaker 4: I understand, all right, the physicality.

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Speaker 2: How about those bad Giants teams that ended up winning

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Speaker 2: Super Bowls? What were they? Nine and seven?

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Speaker 6: What were they?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, on any given sundays.

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Speaker 4: Like the playoffs. That's like the do you think.

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Speaker 2: The NFL has too many teams in the playoffs?

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Speaker 3: Do you think the playoffs would be good with twelve

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Speaker 3: teams each conference and so twenty four teams making the playoffs?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. My expectation is.

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Speaker 3: I'm just asking like, do you would you would you

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Speaker 3: sign up for twenty seven, twenty four teams NFL playoff?

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Speaker 4: No, you wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: The argument has always been this, as we've seen an

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Speaker 2: expansion of playoffs in all sports, it keeps more teams

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Speaker 2: the playing around in the NBA love it.

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Speaker 4: That's great.

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Speaker 2: That's twenty teams out of thirty teams.

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Speaker 4: Great, they're doing great.

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Speaker 3: They're doing it to stop tanking, running rampant.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, we'll see how this bess solving a problem?

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Speaker 4: What problem? What problem is FBS? What are they? What

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Speaker 4: are they solving with twelve teams in the playoffs?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It's a money grab. It's not solving a problem.

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Speaker 2: Well, all playoffs that are being expanded as a money

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Speaker 2: grad That's why they do it.

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Speaker 4: All Right.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, we're gonna switch scares. We'll keep

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Speaker 2: you updated on all the college football news of the day,

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Speaker 2: first we need to break down a big Sunday coming

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Speaker 2: Sports NFL insider Adam Kaplan And so, Adam, we have

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Speaker 2: no undefeated teams left. What was a bigger shock to

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Speaker 2: you last week? The Eagles losing to the Jets. Are

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Speaker 8: Oh boy, I would say he was loosening to the Jets.

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Speaker 8: I know they they were pretty commident they'd win that game.

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Speaker 8: And it was a strange game. Definitely strange game because

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Speaker 8: Jalen Hurts is not a turnover machine, but he had

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Speaker 8: three turnovers and they had four turnovers overall. Still they

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Speaker 6: But yeah, I would say so.

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Speaker 8: Now now with the with the Browns game the Niners,

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Speaker 8: and I thought Kyle Shanahan said it very very well.

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Speaker 6: And you know, they have some injuries.

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Speaker 8: Unfortunately, Deebo Samuel's injury, their shoulder injury turned out to

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Speaker 8: They're not gonna put them on IR, but he's got

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Speaker 6: So that's really big for them.

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Speaker 8: So that's that's you know, that's unfortunate that came out

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question so far this year.

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Speaker 3: What's the biggest surprise for you in terms of the

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Speaker 8: Well, I can't you know, I can't speak for your

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Speaker 8: sure who you're referring to it. But what I told

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Speaker 8: Sports Squad. I said this in May. They're going to

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Speaker 8: They certainly got hype before the season started, and it's

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Speaker 6: Now, it's only it's only.

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Speaker 8: Three and three, so let's be let's, you know, put

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Speaker 8: Matthew Stafford looks great, he's healthy, he's playing well. Cooper

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Speaker 8: And look right now, if the if the playoffs started today,

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: Sunday night, Dolphins on the road against the Eagles. The

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Speaker 2: good news for the Dolphins they're five and one. The

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Speaker 6: Is Steve no question?

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Speaker 8: The ladders the thing like, look, you play who's on

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Speaker 8: Now that Buffalo game, by the way, where they lost

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Speaker 8: That was just a bad game now, I'll tell you.

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Speaker 8: But look, they're going to get a test now. They're

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Speaker 8: The Eagles, by the way, have had a very good schedule.

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Speaker 8: They're another team. When you really look at it, you

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say this though.

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Speaker 8: Look, they had a goal in mind coming out of

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 8: He didn't play well against the Lions. Let's no, he

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Speaker 8: was awful, to be honest with you, he didn't play well. No,

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Speaker 8: never did anyone around him play well. Now, he played

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Speaker 8: That was a stunner for me. Now he didn't play

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Speaker 8: more consistent football. They'll play the Atlanta defense better than it

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Speaker 8: good story. He certainly revived his career. He struggled, as

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Speaker 6: How do you do that?

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Speaker 8: That his mindset, it's his toughness, talking to people have

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Speaker 6: Super competitive. He's just has been too inconsistent.

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Speaker 8: And look, he's on a one year deal with their

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Speaker 8: a great opportunity for him in a division that's not

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Speaker 6: The Saints had a terrible loss.

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Speaker 8: On Thursday night. They really did not play well. They've

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Speaker 8: I'd say that they'd be the favorite.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: So, all the years I was in San Diego, I

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Speaker 8: Steve It's really what's around him, right, So in Austin,

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Speaker 8: think Quentin Johnson, he's just gonna have to play more

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Speaker 8: asked for. He got khil Mack, he wanted certain players

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Speaker 8: off the roster, I was told, And they still can't

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Speaker 8: play good defense. That's a bigger surprise is their defense

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Speaker 8: has not been as competitive for most people thought it

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Speaker 8: would be.

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Speaker 3: He's awful, He's garbage. One last question Patriots Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 3: is this the end of an era? I mean they

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Speaker 3: are getting bolt it's not even know. They're unwatchable outside

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Speaker 3: of a terrible win at the Jets. What is the

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Speaker 3: future because they're they're their schedule is not forgiving that.

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Speaker 3: The Bills, they got, the Dolphins, they got the Commanders

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Speaker 3: coming up. They can lose all three of those games.

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Speaker 3: They probably will. What do we see happening with Craft

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Speaker 3: the organization?

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Speaker 8: Belichick so from I don't know if you're wear this,

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Speaker 8: but and Robert Craft rarely does this, but he wouldn't

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Speaker 8: mention Belichick by name, but he kind of look whether

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Speaker 8: it is the owner's meetings in last spring or anytime

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Speaker 8: he was interviewed by their local media. He said, we

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Speaker 8: have to draft better, you know, and then he he

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Speaker 8: He also talked about the mistake of Matt Patricia's offense

457
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Speaker 8: coordinator last season, about how that put Patricia in a

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Speaker 8: bad spot because he clearly was not you try and

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Speaker 8: develop a quarterback and not have the guy have a setback.

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Speaker 6: And mac Jones. Mac Jones had a very good rookie season.

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Speaker 4: He was terrific.

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Speaker 8: Last year, he struggled, as we know, and he's struggling now.

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Speaker 8: I think this one is real. I think you have

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Speaker 8: to watch how this team closes. You're right, they got

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Speaker 8: to play Buffalo, the Dolphins, watchings defenses really improved. They

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Speaker 8: still got to play the Chargers, who could score the

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Speaker 8: Steelers a Chiefs Bill's again. The Jets are competitive. Yeah, look,

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Speaker 8: they're not going to be a playoff team. And you

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Speaker 8: know the other thing is, which is incredible since Brady left,

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Speaker 8: how much they've regressed at home. They're own three at home. Really,

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Speaker 8: they're just a really tough watch. They're bad, and I

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Speaker 8: think it's real. I usually don't get into that stuff

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Speaker 8: only when it's real, and I do believe that this

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Speaker 8: is one we're gonna have to watch. Belichick, who's got

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Speaker 8: personnel control as the head coach and the owner who

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Speaker 8: wants things turn around here, and it's clearing up and

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Speaker 8: turned around.

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Speaker 9: Well.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people think, of course, of Belichick being untouchable.

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Speaker 2: There's only one untouchable. That is Adam Kaplan Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: NFL Insider, delivering the Ace inside information for us every

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Speaker 2: single week. Adam, it's getting interesting now around the National

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Speaker 2: Football League. We'll check in with you next Saturday.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: That's Adam right there. All right, let's find out what

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Speaker 2: is trending right now. And a man that has had

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Speaker 2: quite the challenging day today. Of course, Martin Weiss is

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Speaker 2: here really doing double duty because obviously hosting a show

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Speaker 2: with VJ and then coming into do updates. But that's right,

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Speaker 2: a challenging morning for you. Would you say, Martin, it.

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Speaker 4: Was a hot one, Steve, it was a hot one?

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Speaker 4: Oh wow?

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Speaker 2: I laugh because I don't want to cry in the air.

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Speaker 2: But some car troubles on the way, well.

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Speaker 5: You know, I would call it car troubles is probably

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Speaker 5: the understatement. He was looking at me, like, what's this

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Speaker 5: guy talking about? On the way in today? On the

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Speaker 5: one oh one right at the one on one four

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Speaker 5: or five exchange, my car caught on fire. What I

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Speaker 5: was listening to? Ohio State Penn State. First down, everything

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Speaker 5: was fine. By third down, I'm on the shoulder, thing

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Speaker 5: is smoking up. I called Dan Bayer. I'm like, Dan,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna be late to work, brother. You know my

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Speaker 5: car is smoking And then actually said, hey, you know, Dan,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to call you back because.

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Speaker 2: This smoke, there's fire with the attached.

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Speaker 5: Let me call nine one one and get LA's finest

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Speaker 5: out here to put this thing out.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, it's it's not a pretty sight.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So in other words, right now, that's it's a gun.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I'm on the phone with the I'm

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Speaker 5: on the phone with an insurance company, like, can you

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Speaker 5: drive the car safely?

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, I can't drive the car dangerously.

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Speaker 4: At the car is on fire.

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Speaker 2: Man, there is no front windshield anymore. It just melted down. Steve,

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Speaker 2: there's there's barely a car.

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Speaker 4: There's barely a car, Like, get your stuff out of it.

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Speaker 2: I grabbed my laptop, I have my backpack with the lab.

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Speaker 2: Insurance companies though, they go, you sure this isn't drivable.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's not drivable. Yeah, from I

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Speaker 5: grabbed it, grabbed it very much like a guy running

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Speaker 5: out of his burning building. It says this building was

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Speaker 5: on four tires. But I grabbed what I could reach

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Speaker 5: and then ran out. And yeah, I sat there and

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Speaker 5: put some disc it's between me and that thing on

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Speaker 5: the side of the road until the fire came fired

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Speaker 5: and police came.

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Speaker 2: There was one Victim though Ephraim his garage store opener.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's over for that time. I had to

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Speaker 5: go and like, you know, you're supposed to collect all

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Speaker 5: your items as you know, out of there, and I

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Speaker 5: was like, yeah, you know, I'm pretty sure it's now

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Speaker 5: melted into the front seat. I'm gonna show you the video.

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Speaker 5: It's pretty ridiculous. But right now we got some college

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Speaker 5: football games in progress. They're going better than my car

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Speaker 5: situation was. All these games in the early and the

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Speaker 5: fourth quarter are late in the third. Number eight Texas

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Speaker 5: did lead Houston twenty one and nothing. That was twenty

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Speaker 5: four to twenty one. Number nine Oregon leeds Washington State

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Speaker 5: thirty one to sixteen. Number eleven Alabama leads number seventeen

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Speaker 5: Tennessee twenty seven to twenty.

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Speaker 4: Let's see here.

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Speaker 5: Number twenty Missouri LEAs South Carolina twenty seven and nine.

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Speaker 5: North Texas has come back from down twenty one nothing

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Speaker 5: to tie. Number twenty three to two Lane at twenty

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Speaker 5: eight apiece. And number four Iya number twenty four Iowa.

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Speaker 5: Rather I should say Lee is trailing Minnesota twelve. That

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Speaker 5: game also in the fourth quarter, like I just said.

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Speaker 5: In the NFL Buddha Baker active for the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 5: He will play tomorrow against the Seahawks. Browns quarterback to

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Speaker 5: Sean Watson is tracking to play tomorrow should he pass

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Speaker 5: his pregame warm up tests. Running Back Christian McCaffrey for

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Speaker 5: the forty nine Ers he practiced for the first time

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Speaker 5: earlier today.

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Speaker 4: He's questionable for Monday night against the Vikings.

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Speaker 5: Left tackle Trent Williams is doubtful, and like Adam Kaplan

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Speaker 5: just said, Deebo Samuel is out with a hairline.

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Speaker 2: Fracture off his shoulder.

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Speaker 5: He'll miss at least the next two games to evaluate

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Speaker 5: him after the bye. And newest Philadelphia Eagle Julio Jones

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Speaker 5: activated from the practice squad and will play Sunday against

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Speaker 5: the Dolphins.

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Speaker 4: And Steve back to you.

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Speaker 2: All right, Martin, thank you very very much. Once again,

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Speaker 2: this is Fox Football Saturday. Steve Hartman and he from

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Speaker 2: Salam with you. We're coming to life from the Tirak

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Speaker 2: coming up here in about ten minutes, I'll have my

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Speaker 2: update on the Heisman Trophy. By the way, I just

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Speaker 2: got my first I never tell anybody I give it away,

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Speaker 2: just but my Yeah. By the way, I got my

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Speaker 2: first notice from the Heisman Trust. They always do it

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Speaker 2: right about this time of the year, just to verify

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Speaker 2: updated information. However, I do want to reveal this about

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Speaker 2: the Heisman vote because there's a lot of controversy and

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Speaker 2: I have a lot of friends in this industry that

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Speaker 2: have covered college football for years and do not have

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Speaker 2: a Heisman vote. There's a set amount of votes, it

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Speaker 2: does not change. There are eight hundred and seventy media

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Speaker 2: members that have a vote that doesn't go up or down,

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Speaker 2: and the only way to essentially lose your vote is to,

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Speaker 2: I believe, leave the state that you represent, something along

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Speaker 2: those lines, or literally die.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: So I've had a vote since twenty ten. However, they

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Speaker 2: did follow up with me saying that they're gonna start

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Speaker 2: doing a little more verification on their voters like, how

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Speaker 2: much college football are you actually watching? How much are

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Speaker 2: you covering? What's your role with college football? So we'll

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Speaker 2: see if anything comes of that for college football's most

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Speaker 2: prestigious honor. Getting back to the NFL. We were sitting

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Speaker 2: here a week ago, you and I trumpeting Brock Purdy

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Speaker 2: after you know, an incredible start to the season. He

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Speaker 2: had not lost a game yet, and then he went

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Speaker 2: to Cleveland. The weather was bad, that Cleveland defense was

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Speaker 2: ready for him. They took Kittle completely out of that game.

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Speaker 2: One catch, one yard. Then McCaffrey goes down with an injury.

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Speaker 2: Samuel goes down with an injury. Now, granted, San Francisco

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Speaker 2: still had a chance to win at the end, but

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Speaker 2: Jake Moody, the rookie kicker out of Michigan, whift on

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Speaker 2: a forty one yard field goal. That is not good

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Speaker 2: for job security. If you're a kicker on game winning

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Speaker 2: kicks from forty one yards, you need to make those kicks.

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Speaker 2: But still, Purty looked mortal, really for the first time

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Speaker 2: since he's taken over as the starting quarterback of the

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers. And now the news is not good

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Speaker 2: with Samuel McCaffrey's out for a while. I'm just watching

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Speaker 2: the NFL as a whole right now, because we were

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Speaker 2: talking in terms of the forty nine ers making a

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Speaker 2: serious run at who knows, sixteen to one, fifteen and two.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: I watched last week. It was the lowest scoring week

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Speaker 2: in the NFL in nearly a decade, and I was

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Speaker 2: just taken back by the overall mediocre play across the board.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we just have a lot of call it

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Speaker 2: parody or paarod, but I just don't see any teams

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Speaker 2: that really stand out this season in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I see some teams that stand out. Barring

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Speaker 3: or notwithstanding San Francisco's two point loss to Cleveland, San

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Speaker 3: Francisco is clearly the best team UH in the National

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Speaker 3: Football League in my opinion.

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Speaker 4: When you lose.

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Speaker 3: A Deebo Samuels, you lose a Christian McCaffrey, and you

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Speaker 3: lose for a period of time, arguably the best left

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Speaker 3: tackle in the game, you're gonna struggle.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but I guess a Cleveland team their backup quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not even about the quarterback. I'm just

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Speaker 3: speaking offensively, and that Cleveland defense and of that defensive

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Speaker 3: line ferocious, so purely offensively, we do have to give

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Speaker 3: brock Purty some grace, right, Like he's been phenomenal. He's

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Speaker 3: ten and one and starts that he's finished the game

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Speaker 3: and so, and he still put his team in position

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Speaker 3: that last drive to win the football game if it

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Speaker 3: weren't for the kicker.

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Speaker 4: So the narrative, we'd be saying, oh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he struggled, but they still won if it weren't

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Speaker 3: for an Eric kick that went wide right. So they're

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Speaker 3: clearly the best team. They have to get healthy. I

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Speaker 3: think the NFL is truly one of attrition. The teams

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Speaker 3: that can stay the healthiest are the teams that will thrive.

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Speaker 3: I believe that Miami, Buffalo, Philadelphia, all top team, Kansas City,

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Speaker 3: of course, everybody else. There's parody there some of the

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Speaker 3: teams that we didn't expect to even be in contention

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Speaker 3: this early on. You look at the Atlanta Falcons at

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Speaker 3: three and three. You look at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

654
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Speaker 3: at three and two, so they're the Washington Commanders at

655
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Speaker 3: three and three. These are the teams that we left

656
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Speaker 3: for dead in our preseason prognostications, and they're battling they're playing,

657
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Speaker 3: and so yeah, it's a little mucked up because you

658
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Speaker 3: have teams that you think shouldn't be as good as

659
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Speaker 3: they are really out there performing. So we get a

660
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Speaker 3: blanket of parody outside of the top four teams in

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Speaker 3: the league.

662
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: Well, we see teams catch fire late. Remember Tampa in

663
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: Tom Brady's first year there, they were what four and three?

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Speaker 2: They were sort of an idol. They had a bye

665
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Speaker 2: week and they didn't lose again. All of a sudden

666
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: they came out of that bye week and never looked

667
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Speaker 2: back all the way to a super Bowl championship. Obviously

668
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Speaker 2: it's very very early, but last week, Nan, it was

669
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Speaker 2: just not the best.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 2: Not nearly the kind of sexy I like to see

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Speaker 2: in my NFL schedule.

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Speaker 4: I know, Steve, Steve's all about the sexy.

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Speaker 2: Now I am very much into the sexy, as you know.

675
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Speaker 2: All right, on the other side, I'm gonna update you

676
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Speaker 2: the Heisman Trophy. Where do I stand with my top three?

677
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Speaker 2: And it's to the minute you'll find out. Coming up next,

678
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Speaker 2: Steve Harbiny from Salov Fox Football Saturday, We're coming you

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Speaker 2: live from the Tirak dot Com studios.

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Speaker 6: All right.

681
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: It is that time.

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Speaker 1: Countdown Heisman watch.

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Speaker 2: Well, as I mentioned earlier, I finally got my first note.

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Speaker 2: As usually mid October we get that first notice. Make

685
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Speaker 2: sure everything is in order, uh, and then we count down.

686
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Speaker 2: And now it's getting to that point where we start

687
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 2: taking the heys and race a little more seriously each week,

688
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: and I try to keep it updated to the moment.

689
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Speaker 2: So here is my current number three.

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Speaker 10: Nick Anderson now comes far right in the trip set

691
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Speaker 10: twenty seven seconds, Anderson in motion twenty three seconds. Gabriel

692
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 10: has the football, looks to throw, He's under pressuring lobs in.

693
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Speaker 11: So touchdown Deverson touchdop at Gabriel and Legacy Baking drive.

694
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Speaker 2: That is Toby rolling from lear Field. Dylan Gabriel the

695
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Speaker 2: former Central Florida quarterback. The transferred a couple years ago

696
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Speaker 2: to Oklahoma. They survived today They beat Central Florida the

697
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: nights thirty one to twenty nine, three more touchdown passes

698
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 2: for Gabriel on the season, better than seventy percent completion rate,

699
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Speaker 2: nineteen touchdowns and three picks, and the Sooners are seven

700
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Speaker 2: to zero. Dylan Gabriel is my current number three. Here

701
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Speaker 2: is my number two.

702
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Speaker 1: First down or yeah, first down, step back to bowl,

703
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: wants to throw, pressure running right, still running, now we'll come.

704
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 2: Throw the ENDZI. What a catch, What a catch by

705
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: man Herberts bowl throwing and hoping. That is Jerry Allen

706
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: from lear Field. Bow Nicks, the Oregon quarterback, is my

707
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Speaker 2: current number two. Don't blame that loss last week on him,

708
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 2: Blame that one on the coach against Washeon bo Nicks

709
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: continuing to do it today eighteen to twenty four, two

710
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: hundred ninety three yards, two touchdowns, no picks. On the season,

711
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Speaker 2: He's completing nearly eighty percent of his passes. Bo Nicks,

712
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Speaker 2: Oregon quarterback, is my number two. Here is my number one.

713
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Speaker 10: Snat Pennix to throw, goes for the end zone off

714
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Speaker 10: the left sideline.

715
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Speaker 11: Roll up two zide tuchsdown wasting ten fireworks tuned.

716
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Speaker 2: Up out of the scoreboard. What thirty eight to go

717
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Speaker 2: and the Huskies take the lead.

718
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Speaker 5: The Heisman moment for Michael Pennis and Roman today.

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Speaker 2: That right there is Tony Krasosony from lair Field and

720
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Speaker 2: indeed Michael Pennock's junior. The Washington Huskies quarterback is my

721
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Speaker 2: current number one. They haven't played yet today, but they're

722
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Speaker 2: twenty seven a half point favorites at home against Arizona States,

723
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Speaker 2: so he should add to that twenty touchdown three pick

724
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: number that he did. And of course the big comfort

725
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: behind win against or again last week. Penix is my

726
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 2: current number one. Now we mentioned Marvin Harrison Junior, and

727
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Speaker 2: he is getting close, close, really really close. I had

728
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Speaker 2: Gabriel sort of in my back burner if he won

729
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Speaker 2: again today. They did. It wasn't easy, but I got

730
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Speaker 2: Gabriel sneaking it at number three. Now, as far as

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is concerned, after that worst game that he's

732
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Speaker 2: had as a Trojan, three picks in that game, in

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Speaker 2: that blowout lost the Notre Dame, the good news for

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Speaker 2: him is he still plays Oregon and Washington. Well that's

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Speaker 2: either good news or bad news for him. I mean,

736
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Speaker 2: but he still has a chick, yes exactly, he still

737
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Speaker 2: controls his own destiny. If they were to win out

738
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Speaker 2: beat Oregon and Washington along the way, Caleb Williams could

739
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Speaker 2: be looking at back to back Heisman's But I've been

740
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Speaker 2: waiting all year for a non quarterback to get in

741
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Speaker 2: the car conversation, and certainly once again today Marvin Harrison

742
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Speaker 2: Junior proving that. But I got these, I got these

743
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: quarterbacks still putting up some gaudy numbers here, really goudy numbers.

744
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 2: I mean, like ridiculous numbers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean that is college football in terms of quarterbacking.

747
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Speaker 3: Above average talent can propel you into you know, the

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Speaker 3: stratosphere at quarterback. You know, we see three star guys

749
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Speaker 3: become all of a sudden, you know, their draft worthy

750
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Speaker 3: and things like that. When I look at, you know,

751
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Speaker 3: the best players in college football and I watch Marvin

752
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 3: Harrison junior the Maseratis, it's clearly he is a step

753
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Speaker 3: ahead and a step above everybody else. Like I said earlier,

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Speaker 3: Without him, Ohio State doesn't win.

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Speaker 2: That game, right. And again, all three of the quarterbacks

756
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Speaker 2: I have on my current top three, as I mentioned,

757
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel out of Central Florida, then he goes to Oklahoma,

758
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 2: he's been around forever. Bo Nick's going from Auburn to Oregon,

759
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 2: and obviously Michael Pennock junior going from Indiana to Watchington.

760
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: These are five six year quarterbacks that we're talking about.

761
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Speaker 2: They're glown men. You know, I remember when Chris Winky

762
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: won the Heisman Trophy at age twenty eight, way back

763
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Speaker 2: in the day at Florida State. You go, twenty eight

764
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Speaker 2: years old, what was the deal? He played minor league

765
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Speaker 2: baseball for six years, didn't go anywhere, so he decided

766
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Speaker 2: I'm going to start over again, walked it to Florida

767
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: State as a freshman and played four full years, ends

768
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Speaker 2: up winning the Heisman Trophy at age twenty eight. So

769
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Speaker 2: a lot of experience there. But you know, again, at

770
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Speaker 2: the end of the day, the award says who is

771
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: the outstanding college football player for that season? And if

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Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison continues to put up you know, one hundred

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Speaker 2: plus yards receiving, you know, and again with a first

774
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Speaker 2: year starter quarterback, Yeah, there's no question. He is definitely

775
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Speaker 2: on my radar. What are your guests on Caleb Williams.

776
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Speaker 2: Did he do anything to hurt himself in terms of draft,

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Speaker 2: the draft or anything with that game against USC He

778
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Speaker 2: can play against Notre Dame.

779
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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, not at all.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing he could do.

781
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Speaker 4: No, there's nothing he can do.

782
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Speaker 2: I mean because when they play Oregon and Washington, those

783
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Speaker 2: could get ugly, those games.

784
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Speaker 4: Yeah they can.

785
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Speaker 3: But I'm telling you right now, he's not going to

786
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 3: I mean, he's not hurting himself at all.

787
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Speaker 2: Okay, so no drop off right there? All right? Coming

788
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Speaker 2: up on the other side, we'll have much more on

789
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Speaker 2: the college football scene. Get you right for the lake

790
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Speaker 2: As and more NFL news. This is Fox Football Saturday.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned Fox Sports Saturday as opposed to Fox Football

802
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Speaker 2: Saturday because I want to make one quick note here

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Speaker 2: about the Major League Baseball playoffs. Yesterday was one of

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Speaker 2: those days, Ephraim, where I sat down to watch a

805
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 2: little baseball. You know, it was Friday, there was no

806
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Speaker 2: real football going on, and I was not disappointed, and

807
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: we had two terrific baseball games. Now if you're not

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Speaker 2: a baseball fan, I get it. I'm not trying to

809
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: make you a baseball fan. But the idea that baseball

810
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 2: cannot be exciting was proven wrong yesterday because both those games.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not a Houston fan by any stretch of

812
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Speaker 2: the imagination, but they're come from behind when in the

813
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Speaker 2: ALCS and then the Diamondbacks doing the same thing in

814
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Speaker 2: the NLCS. More often than not some point of the

815
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Speaker 2: baseball playoffs, exciting things do happen. Now, do you check

816
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Speaker 2: out completely of the baseball playoffs because of the football season?

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00:41:59,200 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: Did you watch any of these games yesterday?

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Speaker 3: This is when you watch baseball exactly right, like you

820
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: check out doing the regular season night because it's one

821
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty two games too many games. Nobody has

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Speaker 3: time for that.

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Speaker 2: Well, even these playoffs now have been extended a little,

824
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: but now you get down to the League Championship Series,

825
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: World Series on the line. Those are terrific baseball games things.

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Speaker 4: It means something, yes it does.

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Speaker 2: You're hanging on the pitch right. There is drama in

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Speaker 2: the basic concept of the game of baseball when it

829
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Speaker 2: comes down to a pitch, and that whole batter pitcher thing.

830
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Speaker 2: So I just wanted to mention that because it was

831
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Speaker 2: a terrific night of baseball last night. As we continue

832
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Speaker 2: on with those league championship series. Now, when I'm watching

833
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Speaker 2: the Houston Astros, everyone looks at the Astros with a

834
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: big asterisk next to them because they got caught cheating

835
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Speaker 2: to win the twenty seventeen World Series against the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: And even though they really haven't missed a beat since,

837
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Speaker 2: of course won the World Series last year, everyone still says, yeah,

838
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 2: but they're cheaters. They're doing Patriots are the same way.

839
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Speaker 2: You know, they had, you know, all the different gates, right,

840
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 2: you know, all the cheating scandals involving the Patriots. So

841
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: a lot of people will look back on them in

842
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: the career of Tom Brady saying, yeah, they won a

843
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: lot of championships.

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Speaker 4: Cheaters, nefarious behavior.

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Speaker 2: And then we have this year's the University of Michigan

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Speaker 2: football team. So to show you how good this season's

847
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 2: been for Michigan so far, and granted they've had a

848
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 2: soft schedule since the first AP poll came out in

849
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Speaker 2: nineteen thirty six, this year's Michigan team is the first

850
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: team since at least nineteen thirty six to start the

851
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 2: season seven to zero, scoring at least thirty points in

852
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: every game and giving up ten or less points in

853
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: every single game. This has never happened going back to

854
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Speaker 2: nineteen thirty six, but now we got scandaled. Apparently they're

855
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 2: stealing signs now. Every time I hear about noise about

856
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: cheating in sports, I laugh. First of all, I did

857
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: work for the Raiders organization, so I know a little

858
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: thing about trying to get an edge on your opponent.

859
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: But I've even seen it in flag football leagues with

860
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Speaker 2: my kids, as I do not know a sport at

861
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Speaker 2: any level where a team is not looking for some

862
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Speaker 2: edge over their opponent, no matter how they get that information.

863
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Speaker 2: So I want to ask you, Ephraim, a man who

864
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Speaker 2: got to the pinnacle of his sport, who has seen

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Speaker 2: it all when it comes to preparation for games. Whether

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Speaker 2: it was high school or college, you played basketball, You've

867
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Speaker 2: seen it in all sports. Are you as blase about

868
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Speaker 2: so called cheating scandals in sports as I am? Or

869
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: is it something you take very seriously?

870
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 3: I take it serious because as a competitor, someone who's

871
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 3: you know, competing against someone, whether it be performance enhancing drugs,

872
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 3: whether it be a team you know, stealing signals or

873
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 3: anything like that. I'm of the belief I don't have

874
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 3: to cheat you to beat you. If you got a

875
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 3: cheat to be at that upper level, then you don't

876
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 3: deserve to be there.

877
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 4: All right.

878
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 3: I could have take a bunch of steroids. I could

879
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: have gotten bigger, I coulda stronger fact me. Yeah, But

880
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 3: why though I believed in myself, I don't condone cheating

881
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: in terms of organizational wise, like the out will always

882
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: think of New England like that, whether smoke there's fired.

883
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 3: You can't have the flight gate, then spygate, then it's

884
00:45:59,239 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: a lot.

885
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: Of gates going on it a lot of gates.

886
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: There a lot of championships too, so you obviously you

887
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 3: directly correlate them to each other. If you the talent

888
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 3: level is so great and the line is so thin,

889
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 3: any advantage you can get yourself matters.

890
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 4: Why do you.

891
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 3: Think if New England is playing the Rams and the

892
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: Rams cut somebody last week, New England will bring them

893
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: in offense defensive side of ball doesn't matter. We want

894
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: to tell us everything, and that's you trying to get

895
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: an advent. That's a legal advantage you taping practices are

896
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 3: walkthroughs of an opponent that is not a legal advantage.

897
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 3: So I understand the sentiment of trying to get an edge,

898
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 3: but there's ways to get an edge without compromising your integrity.

899
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: Well here here was my point about, for instance, in baseball,

900
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: with performance enhancing drugs or stealing signs, still have.

901
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 4: To hit the ball, still gotta hit it.

902
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 3: So even if but at that level, I will say this,

903
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 3: if you know what's coming, you can hit it.

904
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: Hank Aaron and I interviewed Hank Aaron a couple of times,

905
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: the late great Hank Aaron. I said, what was your

906
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 2: philosophy at the plate? He goes, I guessed on every pitch.

907
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: In other words, I want up there guessing is it

908
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: going to be a breaking ball, is going to be

909
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: a fastball? What is it going to be? And he goes, Fortunately,

910
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: I guess right more often than not. That's why he's

911
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame. But even if you have

912
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: a little extra juice in your body or and by

913
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: the way, when you talk about stealing signs of baseball,

914
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 2: when al Tuve hit that three run home run to

915
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: win the game in the eighth inning, you got a

916
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: runner on second base. Your own runner is on second base, right,

917
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: he's looking directly into the catcher. He can see the signs.

918
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 2: This has been going on forever. So when people say, well,

919
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: it would be it's like knowing the answers to the

920
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: test before you actually get the test. Well, that's not

921
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: entirely true, because let's say as a football player, you

922
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: know the play that's coming.

923
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 4: Now.

924
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: First of all, if you've been studying film, you have

925
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 2: a pretty good idea. That's why you study film, that's

926
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 2: why you prepare for a game. You're looking for a tendencies.

927
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: You get to the offensive line, you have a center,

928
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 2: he's looking over there. He's calling the offensive line play

929
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 2: right based on where guys are lined up. Now, they

930
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: can switch up. But even if you know the play,

931
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 2: you still got to stop it. Yeah, that's no guarantee

932
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 2: that you know the play that you're going to stop it.

933
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 2: I just find the whole idea about cheating in sports

934
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 2: laughable because so many are engaged in the activity of

935
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: trying to figure out a way to get an edge.

936
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 2: There's a lot of stake in sports to win. You

937
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 2: think about the collegiate level, talking hundreds of millions of

938
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: dollars at stack the difference between a winning elite program

939
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 2: and an also ran. So there's a lot at stake.

940
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 2: But I again, every time I hear about a cheating scandal, Oh,

941
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 2: it just it gets tony because it's like, Okay, you

942
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 2: know what they say, you're not cheating, you're not trying.

943
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying. You from what you product,

944
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 2: but that but the fact was, even though you did

945
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: not cut corners, you still had an amazing thirteen year

946
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 2: career in the NFL.

947
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, each person has to live with themselves.

948
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: Okay, exactly, so with.

949
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 3: Them people's moral compass is a little skewed.

950
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this. Do you think that

951
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: those guys that are in the Baseball Hall of Fame

952
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: that we know used peds and yet skated into the

953
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame feel any guilt.

954
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 4: I don't think they feel any guilt.

955
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: I don't think they feel any guilt either. They got

956
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 2: away with it.

957
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 4: They did, they did.

958
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 2: So this latest scandal with the Michigan if it's even

959
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 2: going to be a scandal, And again when Jim Harbaugh

960
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 2: is like, we'll cooperate, what and then they're saying, well,

961
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 2: it might be a lower level Well, how about a

962
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 2: lower level coach. If he has no connection with the

963
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: head coach or any of the play how is he

964
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: going to affect the outcome of a game? Could it

965
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: just be that Michigan is better than the teams they're playing?

966
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 2: And by the way, that record I talked about thirty

967
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 2: plus points ten or less it should continue. Tonight they

968
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 2: take on a Michigan State team that has yet to

969
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: win a game in conference. But when you get to

970
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 2: the top, though, as the Patriots did, as the Astros are,

971
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 2: as Michigan has revived their program, people are going to talk,

972
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 2: you know, sort of the cast the shadow of doubt. Okay, well,

973
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 2: how are they getting there? They're not there because they're better.

974
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: They get there because they're cheating, cheating, I find the

975
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: whole thing. Good man, Yeah, well it's it's.

976
00:50:58,880 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 4: Did you teach your kids?

977
00:50:59,800 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 11: How?

978
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 4: No man, Hey, I'm just letting you know.

979
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 12: No, no, no, coach kids. So I coach baseball, coach basketball.

980
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 12: I as a coach, I can identify advantages that we

981
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 12: can tell you, Like if a nine year old kid

982
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 12: is a dynamic player in basketball, can get to the hole,

983
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 12: can finish. But he can't dribble with his left hand,

984
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 12: then I'm going to take his right hand away from him,

985
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 12: so I'm going to render him useless. But I'll let

986
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 12: my team know force him left and then the double

987
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 12: team comes from the right when he turns back to

988
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 12: his right hand. Easy, Still we go down to score.

989
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 12: That's not cheating. That's an advantage, you know what I mean.

990
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 12: There's ways to do it as a coach, to give

991
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 12: yourself an advantage against an opponent.

992
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: Did someone ever approach you at any level with information

993
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 2: that they got underhanded to help you prepare for an opponent?

994
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 2: Did that ever happen to you?

995
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 4: No?

996
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 3: Never, No, I mean I was offered steroids before, right,

997
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 3: But I was like, no, I'm good.

998
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 4: Yes, really I really believe, like if I have.

999
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 3: To take stories to make it to the NFL, I

1000
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 3: don't belong in the NFL.

1001
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 4: That's a real thing.

1002
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, But there's a lot of money. See, money makes

1003
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: people do a lot of crazy things.

1004
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 4: This is a me me and you. This is a

1005
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 4: me thing.

1006
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 3: But for those I've made, I've made money in my life,

1007
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 3: not cheating.

1008
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 2: I understand, And that's that's great.

1009
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 4: I'm still making money in my life not cheating.

1010
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: Do you think less of those that cheated to get

1011
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 2: their money?

1012
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 4: Of course?

1013
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 2: Of course I want you to give me five NFL players.

1014
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: Right a.

1015
00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 4: Man that has nothing to do with me.

1016
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 2: By the way, you want to talk about a coaching job.

1017
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 2: Alabama was trailing at the half. Oh at home to

1018
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: Tennessee twenty to seven. Second half Alabama twenty seven Tennessee zip.

1019
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 4: Now that's a halftime speech.

1020
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 2: Thirty four to twenty is the final. Alabama very much

1021
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 2: in the conversation in terms of a spot in the

1022
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 2: college football playoff. All right, coming up on the other side,

1023
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: I'm going to surprise, That's all I'm gonna say. I'm

1024
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 2: going to surprise Ephraim. This is Fox Football Saturday.

1025
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 13: Milton stands in, the ball is knocked free, It's picked

1026
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 13: up by Alabama.

1027
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: I'm rumbling in for the touchdown. It's the Crimson Times.

1028
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 13: Cheehan Campbell, we have just spoken about him taking Advama

1029
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 13: to playing time, and he gets the loose football in

1030
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 13: Alabama watching the Tennessee unloads underneath the defense, catch is made,

1031
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 13: tackle has made.

1032
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 4: Alabama wins.

1033
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 2: Final of thirty four took twenty bets. Heli going from

1034
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: Lear field right there, the legendary voice of the Crimson Tide. Yeah,

1035
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 2: the obituaries they were writing for Nick stabns coaching career

1036
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: at Alabama a little bit premature. They lost that game

1037
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 2: to Texas. Have had a couple of close calls. They

1038
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 2: were down Bay at half against Tennessee twenty seven to nothing.

1039
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 2: Alabama in the second half Crimson Tide seven to one

1040
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 2: right now undefeated in the SEC play. So they are

1041
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,919
Speaker 2: looking good. By the way Texas hung on. They will

1042
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 2: beat Houston. They were getting us scared today, number of

1043
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 2: close scores. We're getting to that point of the year.

1044
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: We started the week with eleven undefeated teams on the

1045
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 2: FBS level. With Penn State losing to undefeated Ohio State,

1046
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 2: we're down to ten. We'll see where we are by

1047
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: day's end. All right. So from I teased by saying

1048
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to supp guys from salam my surprise is this, Ephraim.

1049
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: Your Los Angeles Lakers open up the season Tuesday on

1050
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: the road against the defending NBA champion Denver Nuggets that

1051
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 2: swept out the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals. We

1052
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: got an NBA season that is about to begin. I

1053
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: know your love of hoops. I love it as well.

1054
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 2: Looking forward to this year, We've got Wimby the rookie

1055
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 2: for San Antonio. He looks good. He's gonna have to

1056
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: work a little bit on his shot, but I mean,

1057
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: you can tell he's gonna have the work ethic. He's

1058
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 2: gonna be how long it's gonna take for him to

1059
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 2: be on a really bad San Antonio team.

1060
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 6: But what are your thoughts?

1061
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts on this upcoming NBA season.

1062
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 2: The Lakers, I know, pretty much stood pat with all

1063
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 2: the acquisitions they made from a year ago. I mean,

1064
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 2: I still look at Denver as the team to beat.

1065
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 2: I mean, they just raced through the playoffs. Don't really

1066
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 2: challenge Denver on their way to an NBA championship. Repeating

1067
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 2: is difficult. But what are your thoughts right now as

1068
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 2: we get ready for an NBA season. There also as

1069
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 2: a Milwaukee Bucks team that just added Dame Dame Lillard.

1070
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that acquisition by the Bucks put them

1071
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 3: in a top tier stratosphere. Having Giannis, arguably the best

1072
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 3: player in the league with arguably the coldest player in

1073
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,919
Speaker 3: the league, and Dame Lillard. That is a duo that's

1074
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 3: going to be difficult to stop period.

1075
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 2: What about your Lakers.

1076
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 3: Well, I'm excited about the Lakers and the reason they

1077
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 3: didn't go out and I'm glad they didn't do this.

1078
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 3: They didn't hit free agency looking to make a splash

1079
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 3: like they did with Westbrook two years ago. They didn't

1080
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 3: need a splash. You got Anthony Davis, you got a

1081
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 3: Lebron James still playing at a high level. You don't

1082
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 3: need a splash. What you need is a team. You

1083
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 3: need shooting, and you need defense. When they had Vanderbilt

1084
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 3: when they last year at the trade deadline. From then

1085
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 3: to the rest of the season, they were the best

1086
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 3: team in the NBA until they ran into Denver in

1087
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 3: the playoffs. Until everybody ran into Denver in the playoffs.

1088
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 3: Denver is the biggest team in the playoffs. Their front

1089
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 3: line was seven to one, six ten, six ten, six ' seven.

1090
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 4: And six ' eight.

1091
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 3: That's that's tough. The Lakers weren't big outside of Anthony Davis.

1092
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 3: They addressed their size problems with Woods and the young

1093
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 3: kid and so they have shooting. They went and got

1094
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 3: at Vincent from Miami, brought back Austin Reeves. So I

1095
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: think they addressed the needs of putting a team together.

1096
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 3: You don't need to be a super team. You just

1097
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 3: need to put a team that can compete.

1098
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 4: Night in and night out. Bringing d Lo back all

1099
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 4: of that.

1100
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 3: You have to be able to compete for eighty two games,

1101
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 3: and I think they did that and it gives them

1102
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 3: an opportunity in the West to be one of the

1103
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 3: top four seeds heading into the playoffs.

1104
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: Well, the story for Lakers is the same it's been

1105
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 2: the last several years. They've got to keep Anthony Davis

1106
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: on the court.

1107
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 4: Got to be healthy.

1108
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 2: Now they're talking that he's looked physically.

1109
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 4: As he looks in shape. He looks in shame time

1110
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 4: in a long time.

1111
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 2: But if they can have and they understand this, they

1112
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: had a healthy Anthony Davis during their playoff run last year. Yeah,

1113
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: and you could see the difference of mixed. That being said,

1114
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: I told a lot of people at the end of

1115
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 2: last regular season when he ended up winning the MVP,

1116
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 2: I said, you got the wrong guy. The MVP of

1117
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,439
Speaker 2: this guy at the league is Jokich. But people didn't

1118
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 2: see a lot of Denver. Well now they've seen a

1119
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 2: lot of Denver and it was amazing how as they

1120
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 2: continue to motor right through the playoffs. Like, damn, this

1121
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 2: Jokich is good. He is, and now that he's won

1122
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 2: a championship, I only see him getting better. Injuries are

1123
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: a big part of Edney sport. Trying to stay healthy,

1124
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 2: trying to peak at the right time is such a

1125
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 2: key in sports. You know, getting hot when it matters

1126
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 2: is what it's all about. But Denver now has navigated through.

1127
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 2: I like the stability in that organization. That's a core

1128
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: team that they built from the inside out, adding a

1129
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: few pieces along the way. That is the formula to

1130
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 2: me to not only win a championship, but stay in

1131
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 2: championship contention. Denver's done it right.

1132
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they it's hard to repeat, very hard, no sneaking

1133
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 3: up on. Everybody knows what you got, and it's hard

1134
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 3: to to to repeat. Health is going to be a

1135
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 3: big part of it. The Joker doesn't look like he's

1136
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 3: in shape.

1137
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 2: He never looks like he's in shape.

1138
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 4: The difference is but he's always been in shape.

1139
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I.

1140
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 3: They asked him in media day two weeks ago, when's

1141
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 3: the last time he picked up the basketball?

1142
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 2: He was like, the last game we played, that was

1143
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis's off season regiment, like he would not pick

1144
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 2: up the basketball.

1145
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he trained. The joker wasn't training. I mean

1146
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 4: he was enjoying him.

1147
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 2: Okay, you're you're trying to convince yourself. What do you

1148
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: expect you on Tuesday night?

1149
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 4: Then?

1150
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 2: I mean they're going to be rocking in Denver. Obviously

1151
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 2: they're going to honor the NBA champions and everything else.

1152
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 4: Banner ceremony, a lot of emotions, get the rings.

1153
01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 2: You think a full year with Durant's gonna make a

1154
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 2: difference Phoenix.

1155
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 4: Oh, I think so. I think so.

1156
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 3: I think they got rid of a little bit of

1157
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 3: their defense for more offense. They're still on the formula

1158
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 3: of we're gonna outscore you. We've saw that didn't work

1159
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. You gotta get stops, are you gotta

1160
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 3: have everybody on?

1161
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 4: I think.

1162
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 3: I'll be interesting to see if they can get enough stops,

1163
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 3: if they can play the level of defense that you

1164
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 3: need to compete in and win a championship.

1165
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 2: The Celtics had Drew Holliday.

1166
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:35,439
Speaker 4: That's good.

1167
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 2: That's a good player.

1168
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 3: I don't know how how much poor Zinga's is going

1169
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 3: to matter. He's not going to be underneath the basket ever. Yep,

1170
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 3: So that doesn't help your rim protection and your rebounding,

1171
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 3: but you know it'll be it'll be interesting to see

1172
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 3: how he fits into that group.

1173
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 2: The only thing that's going to be laughable about this

1174
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 2: NBA season, and I've said this before, I wish the

1175
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 2: NBA Adam Silver listened to me. The first day, the

1176
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:13,439
Speaker 2: first games of the NBA regular season should be played

1177
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 2: on Christmas Day. I agree, Christmas Day. The NBA Finals

1178
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: should not be at the end of June. They should

1179
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 2: be at the end of August.

1180
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 4: I agree.

1181
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 2: Dog Days is summer with baseball nothing on, and the

1182
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 2: football season hasn't started yet. It makes so much sense.

1183
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 2: But instead this year we got this in season tournament,

1184
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 2: which is all they're doing is they're taking regular season

1185
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 2: games and relabeling them as tournament games because all these

1186
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 2: games will count toward regular season stats, with the exception

1187
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 2: of whatever championship game they end up having, and there

1188
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 2: will be no official stats from that game. It will

1189
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 2: be completely an exhibition. Just ridiculous move this season back.

1190
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 2: Imagine if the NBA Finals was in August instead of June,

1191
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 2: before the NBA NFL season begins. It just makes all

1192
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 2: the sense in the world they've done it wrong. And

1193
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. No, in no game that you're urning, a

1194
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 2: tournament game is going to put my eyeballs on the

1195
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 2: NBA in November instead of the NFL in college football.

1196
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 4: It won't happen.

1197
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 2: It's not to happen. All right, Let's find out what

1198
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 2: is a trending right now? And Martin's had a day,

1199
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 2: but he's he's on the other side. He's still here,

1200
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 2: live and breathing.

1201
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 4: And I'll be here.

1202
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 2: I'll be here at least until eleven o'clock Eastern, Steve, excellent,

1203
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 2: excell Martin, I appreciate it.

1204
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 4: Early in the first quarter, right now.

1205
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 5: Number ten North Carolina trails I'm sorry, early in the

1206
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 5: second quarter, rather, number ten North Carolina Trails one win

1207
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 5: Virginia fourteen to seven. Number thirteen Old Miss just scored

1208
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 5: a touchdown. They lead at Auburn early in the I

1209
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 5: mean midway through the first quarter. There these games just ended,

1210
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 5: all right. You had number eight Tech since they led

1211
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 5: Houston twenty one and nothing ended up hanging on for

1212
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 5: the win thirty four to twenty one, thirty one to

1213
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 5: twenty four. There we go, See, Steve, it's been a

1214
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 5: rough day. Number nine Oregon beat Washington thirty eight to

1215
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 5: twenty four. Number eleven Alabama they beat Tennessee thirty four

1216
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 5: to twenty in a game they trailed early. Number twenty

1217
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 5: three two Lane beat North Texas thirty five to twenty eight.

1218
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 5: Number twenty Missouri beat South Carolina thirty four to twelve,

1219
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 5: and then a real banger of a game, Minnesota upset

1220
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 5: Number twenty four Iowa twelve to ten. In the NFL,

1221
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 5: Browns quarterback Deshan Watson is tracking to play tomorrow should

1222
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 5: he pass his pregame warm up test. Arizona safety Budha

1223
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 5: Baker is active and will play tomorrow against the Seahawks.

1224
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 5: Running Back Christian McCaffrey practice for the first time this

1225
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 5: week earlier today. He's questionable for Monday night's game against

1226
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 5: the Fighting. Left tackle Trent Williams doubtful, and wide receiver

1227
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 5: d Weoll Samuel out. He will miss at least the

1228
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 5: next two weeks San Francisco goes on a bye after that,

1229
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 5: then he will be evaluated.

1230
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 4: And the newest Philadelphia Eagle, Julia Jones.

1231
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 5: He's activated from the practice squad and will play tomorrow

1232
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 5: against the Miami Dolphins.

1233
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 2: Do you know what that means, Steve?

1234
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 5: That means there is exactly one position skilled player in

1235
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 5: the NFL older than me, Julio Jones.

1236
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 2: There you go, wow, Wow, Julio is still out there?

1237
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 2: Is he a Hall of Famer?

1238
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 4: I think?

1239
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: So?

1240
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 4: What do you think?

1241
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 2: I'm wide receiver is so difficult because you got guys

1242
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 2: like Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Hines Ward had a thousand receptions.

1243
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 2: He's never even made the finalist list, yet he's been

1244
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 2: on like the semi finalist list. You got a lot

1245
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 2: of receivers. Tory Holt is still waiting for a Hall

1246
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 2: of Fame call true. I don't know from do you

1247
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 2: think of Julio Jones as a Hall of Fame receiver?

1248
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 2: I mean, he had obviously some big years in Atlanta,

1249
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 2: have some big years.

1250
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 4: But you know, Andre Johnson should be in a Hall

1251
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 4: of Fame already.

1252
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 2: Former teammate.

1253
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 4: Unbelievable Andre Johnson.

1254
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 2: How about Reggie Wayne? Is he a Hall of Fame?

1255
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 4: Of course?

1256
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 2: Okay, well, you got a lot of these wide receivers,

1257
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 2: but Highland up.

1258
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 3: But I'll tell you this, Andre Johnson and what he did.

1259
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 3: He never ever played with another Hall of Fame player,

1260
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 3: the only receiver who is considered for the Hall of

1261
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 3: Fame or in the Hall of Fame that can say that.

1262
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 2: Well, when you think about wide receivers, yeah, absolutely, that's crazy.

1263
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 2: And say Matt Shaub is not going in the Hall

1264
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 2: of Fame.

1265
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 4: Oh he will not.

1266
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 3: He never had a quarterback. He was the first receiver

1267
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 3: to put up back to back fifteen hundred yard receiving seasons.

1268
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 2: It's a hard position for me to gauge. I mean,

1269
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 2: I think about receivers that have a tremendous run like

1270
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 2: Chad Johnson, o Jo Senko. I mean, there are people

1271
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 2: that still look at him, and of course his former teammate,

1272
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 2: our dear friend T. J. Huschmann Zada says, you do

1273
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 2: understand he was the quickest off the line ever, unbelievable.

1274
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 2: No one was quicker off the line than Chad Johnson, join.

1275
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 4: Nobody his feet were.

1276
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 2: Well, the question is to me, to be in the

1277
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, regardless of your position, can you lay

1278
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 2: claim that at some point in your career you were

1279
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 2: the best or in the top two or three. That

1280
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 2: to me is a criteria in getting into the Hall

1281
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 2: of Fame. If you weren't one of the absolute elite

1282
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 2: players in your era. How could he be turned to

1283
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer doesn't make any sense.

1284
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,959
Speaker 3: To So listen to this with receiving leaders Jerry Rice,

1285
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 3: Larry Fitzgerald, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, Isaac Bruce, Tony Gonzalez,

1286
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 3: Tim Brown, Steve Smith.

1287
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 2: Now Steve Smith's not in the Hall of Fame yet, right.

1288
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 3: Eighth all time, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Andre Johnson. Then

1289
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 3: you have James Lofton, Chris Carter.

1290
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 2: He's a Hall of Fame.

1291
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 3: Julio Jones is sixteen. So before we put Julio Jones.

1292
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 2: Well, you got three guys that have been finalists right

1293
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 2: there in Reggie, Wayne, Andre Johnson and Steve Smith.

1294
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 4: We got some work to do before.

1295
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 2: There's a lot of work.

1296
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got some work to do.

1297
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 2: And they don't put usually two of the same position.

1298
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 2: They try to, you know, space it out, which I

1299
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 2: think is fair. So sometimes you just have to wait

1300
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 2: your turn. I want to ask you about a team

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Speaker 2: right now in the NFL, got a big game coming

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Speaker 2: up this week, road Test, and where they are in

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Speaker 2: your power rankings. I'm talking about the Detroit Lions, who've

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Speaker 2: won four straight games by at least fourteen points in

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Speaker 2: each of their games, including a twenty six to win

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Speaker 2: twenty six to six winner on the road against the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 2: They're on the road against the Ravens. You look at

1308
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Speaker 2: Jared Goff's numbers this year, they're better than Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff, based on numbers, should be in the MVP conversation.

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Speaker 4: They keep winning, he will be. I can tell you that.

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Speaker 4: Are we all again?

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Speaker 2: My attitude about the Lions this year was there's still

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Speaker 2: the Lions until they prove otherwise.

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Speaker 3: My attitude about the Lions was they're going to win

1315
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Speaker 3: a division. They're a different team. It's a different locker room,

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Speaker 3: it's a different energy. The culture has changed. I spent

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Speaker 3: one year and in Detroit with the Lions. Detroit is

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Speaker 3: the only team where two all time greats retired early.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson.

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Speaker 3: That's not the same. This isn't your your grandfather's Detroit

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01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:40,799
Speaker 3: Lions or your father's Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 2: So why has Dan Campbell been able to change?

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Speaker 4: Respect? Respect? Respect he's played, his coaching staff has played.

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Speaker 3: There's a different level of respect coming from people who've

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Speaker 3: experienced what you're experiencing, and.

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Speaker 4: The team bought into it.

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Speaker 2: That first year was ugly.

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Speaker 3: Of course, it's always going to be ugly when you're

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Speaker 3: trying to change something that has been that way for decades,

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Speaker 3: for decades. And now they could put up a bunch

1331
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 3: of points. Last year couldn't stop anybody. They addressed those

1332
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 3: defensive issues. Now they can score with anybody, and they

1333
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 3: can stop people. They can get after the passer.

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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell, I mean, you know how it is. It's

1335
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 2: a copycat league, all right. So it works for them,

1336
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Speaker 2: it's gonna work for us. So I'm going to use

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Speaker 2: Brandon Staley as a contrast to Dan Campbell. Last time

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Speaker 2: I checked, Brandon Staley never played in the National Football League.

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Speaker 4: Worst coach in the league.

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Speaker 2: He's bad.

1341
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Speaker 4: He's been that way for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's starting to do something that usually is done

1343
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 2: by a coach that's going to walk the plank. But

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Speaker 2: he's not going to do it with the Chargers because

1345
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 2: he still has another year left in his contract. And

1346
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 2: they don't eat contracts, or they're gonna have to eat

1347
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 2: this one. They're not gonna eat it. They're gonna have

1348
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 2: to They're not gonna eat it. But anyway, when you

1349
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 2: start doing this basically him saying after a loss, we

1350
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 2: had the right game plan, we just didn't execute, meaning

1351
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Speaker 2: our job players did not execute.

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Speaker 3: He lost the locker room last year. That's why I

1353
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 3: didn't understand why they brought him.

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01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 2: Back, because they're paying them.

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Speaker 4: He lost the locker room last week.

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Speaker 3: That team doesn't believe in him, just like the Denver

1357
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 3: Broncos didn't believe in Nathaniel Hackett. Just like you can

1358
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,560
Speaker 3: change the coachure and you can gain favor in the

1359
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 3: locker room as a coach, you can lose it just

1360
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 3: as fast, just as fast. And so this team doesn't

1361
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Speaker 3: believe in Brandon Saley.

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01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 4: That's it.

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01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, especially after that playoff loss. But I

1364
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Speaker 2: tell you what these Lions right now are they? I

1365
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 2: mean with a bang, A forty nine er team, an

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01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 2: underachieving Eagles team, an underachieving Chiefs team, an overinflated record

1367
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 2: for the Dolphins because again they're five wins against teams

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Speaker 2: that have won to combine five game the Lions. I

1369
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 2: mean a lot of people were like, why are you

1370
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Speaker 2: taking Jamiir Gibbs. What's that about? Is adding to the riches,

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01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 2: it's working for them right now. But I just wonder again,

1372
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Speaker 2: with the success that Dan Campbell's having in Detroit, is

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01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 2: that going to change the hiring practice of jam Campbell's Well,

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Speaker 2: I understand that, but there's a lot of former players.

1375
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you could be a former player, but you

1376
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 3: got to have a different type of energy, a different

1377
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 3: type of swag. And Dan Campbell came in that we

1378
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 3: all made fun of him. I made fun of him

1379
01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 3: about the biting, the kneecaps and yeah, yeah it and

1380
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 3: ate it.

1381
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 2: We were wrong. Sometimes crazy works in a locker room.

1382
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 4: Crazy Urban Meyer didn't work.

1383
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 2: He was crazy, Well he did, But I mean I

1384
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 2: think of a lot of eccentric personalities. You know, I

1385
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:14,879
Speaker 2: go back to a guy like bum Phillips.

1386
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Speaker 4: He was burrier, came in crazy. That didn't work.

1387
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 2: No, but sometimes crazy does work.

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01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 4: Sometimes crazy does. Got to know your audience.

1389
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know this. Dan Campbell's a better coach right

1390
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Speaker 2: now than Bill Belichick.

1391
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 4: Oh, went by a mile, by a mile.

1392
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 2: You think Belichick has lost the locker room.

1393
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 4: Yes, it's hard. It is hard.

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01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 2: You're telling me that in that locker room doesn't have

1395
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 2: the same respect here.

1396
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 3: Man, they got kids, and the kids weren't even alive

1397
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Speaker 3: when Tom Brady was playing at the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: Okay, they weren't even they weren't alive.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So all we heard over the decades is the

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01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 3: Patriots way. You come there, you sacrifice. It's the Patriots way.

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01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 3: Because the Patriots way you win.

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01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 4: It works. What happens when it doesn't, what happens when

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01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:09,520
Speaker 4: you have to sacrifice.

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01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 2: School, you will say trust the process, right.

1405
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:15,799
Speaker 3: This process is not working. When you start hiring coaches

1406
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 3: defensive coaches to be offensive coordinators for a young quarterback.

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01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 3: These are the types of things. This is how you

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01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 3: lose the locker room when they start questioning your ability

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01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,879
Speaker 3: to give them an opportunity to succeed.

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01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 4: So when you start doing when you don't draft.

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01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 3: Based on need, when you pay three tight ends, draft

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01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 3: another one, and then a year later none of them

1413
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 3: are on the roster. These are the things that take

1414
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 3: place that help you lose the locker room. So when

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Speaker 3: you ask me this, Bill Belichick loft the locker room absolutely,

1416
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 3: because the last two years have been abysmal.

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01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 2: Well, once you lose a locker room, there's no getting

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Speaker 2: it back. Can't get it back, can't can't go get

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Speaker 2: it back. All right coming up on the other side,

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Speaker 2: we got some games kicking off, big games around the

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Speaker 2: college football scene, and we're gonna get you some of

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Speaker 2: our best picks for an NFL Sunday. This is Fox

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Speaker 2: Football Saturday. Fourth down, less than a yard for Houston.

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Speaker 9: Smith from the shotgun has the snap, rolls to the right, looks,

1425
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 9: throws on the run.

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Speaker 2: It is in deplete, broken up by.

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Speaker 9: Jeanne barn It was intended for Stefan Johnson, the hero

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01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 9: of the Hail Mary and Johnny Baron comes up hero

1429
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Speaker 9: for Texas. Houston caught him at twenty four Texas with

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Speaker 9: a late drive, a touchdown, and then a stand in

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Speaker 9: the red zone to get the win.

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Speaker 6: Final score this.

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Speaker 9: Afternoon for the TDECU Stadium Longborne's thirty one Houston Cougar's

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Speaker 9: twenty four Friday.

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Speaker 2: That's Craig Way from Larfield right there. So it wasn't pretty,

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Speaker 2: but a ranked Texas survives on the road against the

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Speaker 2: Houston Cougars by that score, thirty one to twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Steve Harbiny from salam with you from our tire rack

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Speaker 2: dot com studios want to thank our crew today. I

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01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 2: feel like I want to start with Martin because I mean,

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01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 2: the band survived a car fire to get here today.

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01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 2: That's what we call dedication Along the way. Lorano Chorus

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01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 2: has been a superstar since her arrival on the show.

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01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 2: We always appreciate her efforts at Brandon, I don't know

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01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 2: what to tell you. I really don't know what to

1451
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 2: tell you. I mean, your work is impeccable, there's never

1452
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 2: a question about that. You're also in the company of

1453
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 2: a San Diego State guy over here and he from

1454
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 2: Salon Aztec Life. Did they they canceled the football season

1455
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 2: just get ready for basketball sotball? They did get that one.

1456
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 2: In Hawaii.

1457
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:17,959
Speaker 3: They have an open I mean a closed door scrimmage

1458
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 3: against Arizona this weekend.

1459
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking forward to that.

1460
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 4: So uh well, will nobody know what happened?

1461
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 2: But you're a superstar, a guy that made the final

1462
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 2: four team Lamon Butler's back. Oh yeah, how many times

1463
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 2: in your mind have you relived that final?

1464
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 3: I almost fell out of the owner's box in Houston,

1465
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 3: and like I was, I was hanging over the rail

1466
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,679
Speaker 3: and he hit the shot and I literally almost fell

1467
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 3: out of the box.

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Speaker 2: So in that moment, the exhilaration you felt had to

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01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 2: be on part with anything you've ever felt in your

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01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 2: life is unbelievable. Sam, I was watching at home, Like,

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Speaker 2: when he let go, I kept thinking he's not even

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01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 2: going to get the shot off. I was, But when

1473
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 2: he throw it up, I'm like, it's straight. I couldn't

1474
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 2: believe it. It just switched. Every single time I see

1475
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 2: the highlight, either on Twitter or on YouTube or something,

1476
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 2: I have to watch it again. Did you see that crowd?

1477
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 2: All the students that were all and then they were

1478
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 2: just focused on them, and the second that the shot

1479
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 2: goes through, they just you don't see the shot. You

1480
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 2: just watched the crowd. That's a great thing about sports.

1481
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 2: Those are the mom of it that you can relive

1482
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 2: over and over and dover.

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01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 4: All.

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01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 2: Right, So coming up here, some of the college football

1485
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 2: games that we got going on from USC is going

1486
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 2: to be back in action. As a take on Utah tonight.

1487
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 2: It's a very tough game for both teams, come in

1488
01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 2: with just one loss on the season. Do you think

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01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams rebounds against one of the top defenses in

1490
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 2: the Pac twelve, the Utes.

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01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 3: I think he does. I think he takes care of

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01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 3: the ball. It'll be a scoring fastest shootout because.

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01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,679
Speaker 2: Well, Utah's you know, been up against it offensively because

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01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:18,959
Speaker 2: they've been without their quarterback.

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01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, But USC's defense is that bad.

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01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 4: It's that bad.

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01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 3: I mean, you scores forty four points a game, so

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01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 3: going against s these defense, you can kick that up

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01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 3: to fifty four points. I would give him three extra points,

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01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 3: so I would say about forty seven.

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01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 2: All right, So you're going there. As far as NFL

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01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 2: games are concerned tomorrow, I want to get your thoughts

1504
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:45,560
Speaker 2: on a couple of games here, starting with that Detroit

1505
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 2: Baltimore game. Detroit on the road against the Ravens. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if they win this game, they're in the conversation for

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01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 2: best team in the NFL. Are they good enough now

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01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:00,759
Speaker 2: to go into Baltimore and when they Yeah.

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Speaker 4: They are. I think they are.

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01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 3: I think their offense and their defense are clicking at

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01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 3: the same same pay, same rate. And look they have

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01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 3: something to prove and they're hungry.

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Speaker 2: Dolphins at the Eagles. Dolphins scoring like crazy, Eagles coming

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Speaker 2: out that painful loss against the Jets. Jalen Hurts rebounds.

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01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 4: Hey rebounds. But the Dolphins has too much firepower.

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01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 2: Too much firepower. Oh man, I'm gonna go with the

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01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 2: Eagles in that game. Don't go anywhere, keep it right here.

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01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:33,799
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio.