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Speaker 1: You're listening a dracking network.

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Speaker 2: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and

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Speaker 2: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I love him.

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Speaker 4: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 5: Big job there Forctufian Bret Fer. I believe there are

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Speaker 5: a couple of absolutely self involved ble.

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Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 1: That's shot. I'm all right, good to have you with us,

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Speaker 1: Episode four oh three of the Anak and Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 1: And I'm so happy to be joined by this man.

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Speaker 1: Mixed martial arts fanatic, but major League baseball legend. And

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Speaker 1: if you grew up a Boston Red Sox fan, this

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Speaker 1: guy made you cry in your cheerios a whole lot.

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Speaker 1: Uh MVP of the two thousand and five Cape Cod League,

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Speaker 1: three time Major League Baseball All Star, Rookie of the

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Speaker 1: Year back in two thousand and eight, three time goal

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Speaker 1: Glove winner, maybe future Hall of Famer if I have

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Speaker 1: anything to say about it. Evan Longoria, it's good to

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Speaker 1: see it, my brother. Welcome to South Florida.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, man.

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Speaker 5: This is you know what's what my South Florida, Central

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Speaker 5: Florida was my home for quite a while, so that's

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Speaker 5: always going to be back.

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Speaker 3: My wife.

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Speaker 5: My wife's family is from this area, so you know,

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Speaker 5: part of it feels like home, and I appreciate the introduction.

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Speaker 5: You must have, Dug deep man, you found you found

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Speaker 5: the two thousand and five Cape Cod League MVP.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Well, I got a buddy who has a summerhouse in Chatham,

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Speaker 1: and of course you played for the Chatham A's and

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Speaker 1: I actually think at some point during that summer of

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Speaker 1: five I was actually in Chatham. I can't say I

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Speaker 1: was at a Cape Cod League game, but yeah, I

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Speaker 1: did come across that on my research. So you flew

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Speaker 1: into South Florida last night and you play the Marlins,

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Speaker 1: I guess beginning tomorrow. So you got an off day today?

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Speaker 1: Pretty good, right, we do?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: My wife and I are going to go to the casino.

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Speaker 5: So that's kind of hard thing to do together.

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Speaker 1: So we were sort of joking over text that were

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Speaker 1: both avid slot players. When I lived in Las Vegas,

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Speaker 1: I would go to the dirtiest fucking casino I could

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Speaker 1: find and just play slots. Maybe not high limit slots

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Speaker 1: like you, but you and your wife like the slots.

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Speaker 3: Huh, Yeah, well I like it a little bit more.

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Speaker 5: She's a poker player, but I don't know, wow, I

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Speaker 5: just I got a crazy addiction to it that probably

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Speaker 5: needs a remedied pretty soon.

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Speaker 1: Huh. So I have a lot of baseball stuff that

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Speaker 1: I want to get into, of course, and you were

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Speaker 1: really a guy for a lot of us who are

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Speaker 1: American League East fans that we put on a pedestal,

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Speaker 1: and you deserve to be on that pedestal. I mentioned

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Speaker 1: the great career numbers against the Boston Red Sox, but

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Speaker 1: we connected largely because you are a rabbit MMA fan,

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Speaker 1: And you texted me recently you were watching UFC six

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Speaker 1: on UFC Fight Pass. You were doing the deep dive.

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Speaker 1: But I got to ask, You're you're younger than me,

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Speaker 1: born in nineteen eighty five, but when do you recall

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Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like the casual fan really started

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Speaker 5: to become an MMA fan with Connor McGregor, at least

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Speaker 3: You know, when Connor burst onto the scene.

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Speaker 5: I feel like that was when I really started to

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Speaker 5: rest of the division, his opponents, and and then you know,

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Speaker 5: deeper into to the rabbit hole I went, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, after that.

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Speaker 5: So probably you know what, Connor just got ten years

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Speaker 5: I think he said he just posted these ten years

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Speaker 5: I guess ten years or it doesn't seem like that,

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Speaker 5: but I mean, yeah, it's been, it's been. It's been fun, man.

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Speaker 5: The growth of UFC has been exponential. Obviously, love to

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Speaker 3: So it's it's been fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. April six, twenty thirteen, Connor McGregor made

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Speaker 1: a week. So it's funny because when I read about you,

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Speaker 1: see you start to throw hands?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 1: You know, we were we were putting together a table

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Speaker 1: to tape BJ up to Evan Longoria for charity. I

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Speaker 3: BJ's one of one of my good friends. Man. I

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Speaker 5: But you know what's funny is I trained with Brandon Harris.

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Speaker 5: I think we've talked about this a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Brandon Harris.

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Speaker 5: It's h is Sean O'Malley's trainer, a strength and conditioning trainer,

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Speaker 5: and he also trains uh, Scott Holtzman and a couple

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Speaker 5: other guys. He's got Bryce May, Bryce Meredith, No, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Bright Okay, yeah, Bryce Mitchell. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Bryce Meredith is a is a bellot Or guy and

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Speaker 5: and I you know, I tried, I try, and you know, throw.

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Speaker 3: Hands and kicks and stuff, and it's exhausting, man.

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Speaker 5: Like after I did that the first time, Like the

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Speaker 5: you know who, new whole new level of respect for

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Speaker 1: I did a tough Man competition once when I was

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Speaker 1: and it was the most exhausting physical initiative of my

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Speaker 1: I joke about BJ Upton because you guys had a

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Speaker 5: You know, it was it was kind of a long

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Speaker 5: Everybody weirdly, I mean, I was really close with BJ,

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Speaker 5: And you know what, as I look back now, BJ

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Speaker 3: He just run.

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Speaker 5: He just ran really easy, and you know, yeah, it

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Speaker 5: I just I just, you know, I had to be

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Speaker 1: So you're in your sixteenth Major League Baseball season, you

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Speaker 5: One year DA Mainly that playing at home, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 3: And so this was, you know, just a perfect.

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Speaker 1: Evan Longngory with us here on the Anak and Florian podcast.

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Speaker 1: Third overall pick by the Tampa Bay then Devil Rays,

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Speaker 1: I believe in the two thousand and six Major League

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Speaker 1: Baseball Draft. Actually maybe it was the Raise by then,

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Speaker 1: but it's a tremendous career. And our executive producer, Cody Merrow,

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Speaker 1: huge baseball fan growing up in New Hampshire. We were

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Speaker 1: talking off the air for about a half a decade.

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Speaker 1: You were the standard. You were the best third basement

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Speaker 1: in baseball. You were an All Star your first three

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Speaker 1: years in the league, Rookie of the Year. Here you are,

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Speaker 1: year number sixteen, three hundred and thirty three career home runs,

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Speaker 1: coming up on two thousand career hits. I got to

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Speaker 1: imagine overall, and I'm sure you're your harshest critic, but

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Speaker 1: how do you feel overall about your Major League Baseball

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Speaker 1: body of work as you as you enter the final

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Speaker 5: Sorry you cut in and out there for a second,

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Speaker 3: Still? I mean that video is what fifteen years old?

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Speaker 5: But yeah, no, I just I stood there, I held

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Speaker 3: And you know, people believed that. People still believe it.

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Speaker 5: I don't follow boxing all that much. So for me,

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Speaker 5: like as a as a casual boxing fan, like those

440
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 5: fights are more intriguing to me than you know. Uh uh,

441
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Speaker 5: I mean I'll watch the Tank Davis fight for sure.

442
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 5: But yeah, like I'll watch fights like that, you know,

443
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 5: all the time. For sure, I'll watch that one. I'm

444
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 5: a big Nate's not my favorite in the UFC, but

445
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 5: are you know he was in the UFC, but uh,

446
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 5: he's he's up there, you know, the personality, the uh,

447
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 5: the no nonsense like he is who he is, like

448
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 5: him and his brother. I mean, I I I definitely

449
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 5: have pulled for Nate. I was, you know, borderline maybe

450
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 5: pulling for Anate against Connor or you know the last

451
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 5: time he fought Connor. So yeah, it'll be that'll be

452
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Speaker 5: an interesting fight to watch. I just saw an interview

453
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Speaker 5: with gosh, who is it that just fought in a

454
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Speaker 5: boxing match?

455
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Speaker 3: The Jose Aldo thing? Was there another.

456
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Speaker 5: Guy that was saying he just fought or he just

457
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 5: he was sparring with Nadaz and said, the Nate's gonna

458
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 5: be uh you know, it could be a tough test

459
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Speaker 5: for for Jake and obviously the pressure and everything.

460
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Speaker 3: So it was was it.

461
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Speaker 1: The guy who fought Aldo Jeremy Stevens.

462
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Speaker 5: No, No, it was a guy's a legend boxer, probably

463
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 5: a couple years older than me. Any Anyways, he was

464
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 5: just basically, you know, saying the same thing that we

465
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Speaker 5: all see Adam ad As. You know, the pressure, the

466
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 5: unorthodox style, you know, the gas tank like all of that.

467
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Speaker 3: You know, could make for a long night for j Paul.

468
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Speaker 3: So yeah, definitely looking forward to that.

469
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Speaker 1: And it'll be at one hundred and eighty five pounds,

470
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Speaker 1: and we look forward to whether it's three or four

471
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Speaker 1: years down the line when Evan Longoria crosses into the

472
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Speaker 1: MMA media space and we're doing a podcast together. But

473
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Speaker 1: it's been great to have you in this MMA world. Brother, Sincerely,

474
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 1: I wish you all the best this weekend. I hope

475
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: to see you in Miami. And dude, you're crossing over

476
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Speaker 1: to the Dark Snide once you retire.

477
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Speaker 5: Bro, I got I got one more thing for you,

478
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Speaker 5: I really because because you guys have been so good

479
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 5: to me in terms of making the picks on the

480
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 5: main event, I wanted to make my pick for yes,

481
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Speaker 5: Alan and.

482
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Speaker 3: Alan in Holloway talk to me, so I try. I

483
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 3: was trying to dig into it.

484
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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, like the short of it is, I'm

485
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Speaker 5: I gotta go with Max Holloway. I mean, I think

486
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Speaker 5: the resume speaks for self. I mean, what his last is,

487
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Speaker 5: the only losses that he have has recently urder Dustin

488
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 5: Pourrier and then you know what three times three times

489
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Speaker 5: the Wolkonowski, So you know, I think he's fought the

490
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Speaker 5: better guys. I mean, obviously, Arnold Allen's on a crazy

491
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Speaker 5: on a crazy run.

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Speaker 3: I would have loved to.

493
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Speaker 5: See the Cater fight finish with with Roold Allen. I mean,

494
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Speaker 5: I think that would have probably given uh, you know,

495
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Speaker 5: maybe book makers and fans a better idea of how

496
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Speaker 5: that fight might play out. But you know, obviously A

497
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Speaker 5: Rodriguez is now a champion and and you know, Max, uh,

498
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Speaker 5: you know, won that fight, so uh it should be

499
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Speaker 5: an exciting fight. But I'm gonna go with the I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna go with blessed.

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Speaker 1: You're wise to bring up that Max Holloway y you'

502
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Speaker 1: Rodriguez fight because that win has aged in a great

503
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Speaker 1: way for Holloway given the way. Yeah, you're looked against

504
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 1: Josh Hemman my whole thing. And I can't bet. I

505
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 1: can't even get to predict, Like I just wouldn't be

506
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Speaker 1: betting against Arnold Allen, Right, he's ten and on the UFC,

507
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: I know he's been inactive. I would probably lay off

508
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Speaker 1: of that fight and find another one on the board.

509
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: But that's good insight from you, and at least so

510
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Speaker 1: far on our airwaves, we haven't found anybody who is

511
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Speaker 1: picking Arnold Allen to beat Max all Right. Evan Longory,

512
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Speaker 1: I hope to see in Miami this weekend. Really appreciate

513
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: your support and you're the fucking man. Thank you for

514
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: the time today. Enjoy the day off.

515
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Speaker 3: All right, run on, guys, Thank you. There.

516
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Speaker 1: He is Arizona Diamondbacks third basement slash designated hitter Evan Longoria,

517
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: with us here on the Anakin Florian Podcast. It's interesting

518
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: because he's long Goo, right, and yet in our world

519
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: it seems like there's really only one long Goo to

520
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Speaker 1: that end, let us bring on the great Raymond Peter

521
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 1: Longo as we give you your second Ray Longo minute

522
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Speaker 1: of the week. Long Goo to Longo. That's a rare transition,

523
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Speaker 1: is that crazy?

524
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Speaker 6: Eva Longoria? Evan Longoria, Yeah, that's wild.

525
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: You know, when Evan Longoria made the All Star Team

526
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, Eva Longorias sent Evan long

527
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Speaker 1: a bottle of Champagne and said keep doing right by

528
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: the name because for years Evan Longoria had to hear

529
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: all about Eva Longoria and look what he's done for

530
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: that surname. So how are you doing, brother?

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Speaker 3: Not bad today, not bad that were you, John.

532
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Speaker 1: I'm doing great. So I wanted to grab a little

533
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Speaker 1: bit of extra time with you because we didn't get

534
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Speaker 1: into a few things that I would have liked to

535
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: have gotten into UFC two eighty seven wives, some Aljamain

536
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: Sterling stuff on the back end as well. I wanted

537
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: to talk to you about Raoul Rosas Junior, at eighteen

538
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: years of age, suffers his first career loss to Christian Rodriguez.

539
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Speaker 1: I thought this was a good job by the matchmakers,

540
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Speaker 1: giving Raoul Rosas Junior an appropriate test against a fellow prospect.

541
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Speaker 1: I think the ceiling's pretty high on Sea Rod here

542
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: moving forward. But Sean O'Malley and others have now suggested

543
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Speaker 1: that Roul Rosas Junior take time off to develop, and

544
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Speaker 1: we've seen other fighters do this in the past with

545
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Speaker 1: varying degrees of success. But Raul Rosas Junior is not

546
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Speaker 1: going to be nineteen until October. So if this was

547
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Speaker 1: your pupil I know you felt like it was a

548
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: little silly that he was getting fast tracked to begin with,

549
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: but given what we saw Saturday night, Like, what do

550
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Speaker 1: you do with this eighteen year old now moving forward?

551
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think he's got to take a step back.

552
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 4: He's certainly has the time to do it, right, So

553
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 4: why rush somebody? I mean, you know, it's funny, John,

554
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 4: because if he would have gotten that submission in the

555
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 4: first round, we're having a completely different conversation. But I

556
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 4: think it's a blessing in disguise because that was going

557
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 4: to run out eventually, So why not have it happen now,

558
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 4: and you know, and try to fix somethings. Rounds two

559
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 4: and three he looked like a kid, you know what

560
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Speaker 4: I mean, he was even physically, like maturity wise, he

561
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Speaker 4: just he looked like a twenty five pounded to me,

562
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Speaker 4: just getting ragged alled And you could see, you know, listen,

563
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Speaker 4: to not have a guess tanket at nineteen years old

564
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 4: is crazy, So you know, there's other things going on there,

565
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Speaker 4: I think. But you know, I think up until this point,

566
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 4: everything's been age appropriate, Like even even a thing with

567
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 4: al Joe that was like total bullshit. I remember talking

568
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Speaker 4: al Jo like, h you know, he's Aljo is a

569
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Speaker 4: good guy. You come into the gym, you're rolling with him.

570
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Speaker 4: Next thing, you know, somebody's they're going hard algas As

571
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Speaker 4: I look up, his father's filming it, like he's like

572
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 4: and like, you know, like you know, So I'm.

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Speaker 6: Gonna say it's immaturity, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: And you know you could see how bad that looks

575
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Speaker 4: now and even his statements right going back to it,

576
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Speaker 4: but uh, I think give the kid a little chance

577
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Speaker 4: to grow up, you know, physically and mentally.

578
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Speaker 6: I think that's what I saw. Even even you know,

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Speaker 6: even his corner.

580
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Speaker 4: I think it's great to have your mom in the corner,

581
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 4: but you're in the big leagues now, man, if she

582
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 4: can't add something to that. You know, he he didn't

583
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 4: get any He didn't get any corner advice in that thing. Right,

584
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 4: what they thought you got to keep going, try to

585
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 4: get to his neck. I mean, I forget what they

586
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 4: were saying, but there was nothing there. So I think

587
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 4: he's got to take this time now because it's going

588
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 4: to be hard to match him up. You know, they

589
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 4: brought in a newcomer who that kid was squared away.

590
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 4: He beat one of my guys on the local scene.

591
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 4: He's very, very talented guy. But it definitely wasn't an

592
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Speaker 4: overreach based on what they thought they got. This kid's

593
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 4: ceiling was so yeah, I think he's got to take

594
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Speaker 4: a little time off and I think he got humbled.

595
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 4: Let's see how he handles that again with Joe. When

596
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Speaker 4: you're when you're eighteen nineteen dealing with stuff that you know,

597
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 4: you don't have like the defense mechanisms or you don't

598
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 4: have the life experience to deal with, it's it's rough.

599
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Speaker 6: So I think they got to be careful with him.

600
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Speaker 4: But uh, you know, he's definitely talented, but they're gonna

601
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 4: have to take a step back, I think, and you know,

602
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 4: square away a couple of things in this game. He

603
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 4: looked like like the stand up was non exists, just key.

604
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 4: He can improve a lot. Why rush it, you know

605
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 4: what I mean. That's where I'm coming from.

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Speaker 1: There are probably eighty bantam weights on the roster right now,

607
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Speaker 1: and unlike some of these other divisions, the number seventy

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Speaker 1: ninth ranked one hundred and thirty five pounder in the

609
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Speaker 1: UF see, it stands to reason is a real problem.

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00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: So it's not as though to your point there are

611
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: any easy outs in the UFC necessarily, But I agree

612
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Speaker 1: with everything out of your mouth, especially when it comes

613
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Speaker 1: to the immaturity. And I have said on these airwaves

614
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Speaker 1: many times, at twenty seven years old, I could not

615
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Speaker 1: get out of my own way, I could not pay

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Speaker 1: my own rent. And that is nine years later in

617
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Speaker 1: my life than where he is at right now. But

618
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Speaker 1: his first fighter meeting with us, Ray, I felt like

619
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Speaker 1: he was humble, he was gracious, he was interpreting the

620
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: English language to his parents. And then our second fighter

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Speaker 1: meeting still came in with a camera crew the first time,

622
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Speaker 1: but second fighter meeting this past weekend, he comes in

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Speaker 1: with this whole crew and says he's ready to challenge

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Speaker 1: Al Jamain Serling and the best guys in the world.

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Speaker 1: Right now, he referenced that video and it seemed like

626
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Speaker 1: all the humility had evaporated. So now I think some

627
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: of that will return. I think there will be a

628
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Speaker 1: little bit of humble pie. It looked like he was

629
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Speaker 1: actually talking to me. Rob Dwallish, will I don't know

630
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Speaker 1: if you saw the photo in Las Vegas after the

631
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: fight at the UFCPI so perhaps your guy Morob can

632
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: can talk some sense into him. But I do think

633
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Speaker 1: by and large, some developmental time as opposed to getting

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Speaker 1: back into a training camp and fighting in three or

635
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: four months would be just with the doctor order.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, without of doubt. And I say a physic

637
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 6: guy to talk to because I've seen him do it.

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Speaker 6: It's Morob Man.

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Speaker 4: He's just like I always told you, he's very practical

640
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 4: and you know, humble, and you know comes from humble beginnings,

641
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 4: and his advice is literally John always dead on.

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00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 6: I'm sure. I'm sure that.

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Speaker 4: Kid really appreciated whatever little time he spent with Morob.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So a few other things I want to get

645
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Speaker 1: into with you on UFC two eighty seven, and time permitting,

646
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: I am going to ask you about Jake Paul and

647
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: Nate Diaz. So that gives you a little time to

648
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Speaker 1: think about that. But now that we've had a little

649
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Speaker 1: bit more time to digest this israel lot of soign

650
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Speaker 1: you win. I went on First Take Monday and suggested

651
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Speaker 1: that this is one of the biggest singular wins in

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Speaker 1: MMA history and the psychology of being down three to

653
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Speaker 1: zero and not waiting and letting a Lexpedeta fight Robert

654
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: Whitaker right, making sure that you controlled the history, as

655
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: daunting a task as this was. And now not only

656
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: did Adasani control the history, but he makes the best

657
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: kind of history and has I think, of all the

658
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: four wins in this series, the most significant of them

659
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: this knockout of Padata last weekend.

660
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, John, I I I'll tell you. As the days

661
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 4: go on, I'm more blown away, like each day when

662
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 4: I think about it. And I was one hundred percent wrong.

663
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 4: I picked Alex to win. I thought he was coming

664
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 4: back too soon, But after watching that knockout, he one

665
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: hundred percent dragged him in, covered up, took whatever.

666
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 6: He had and man and he unloaded. He unloaded.

667
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 4: So you know, like again you're saying it psychologically, how

668
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 4: do he get down kind of three to zero? You know,

669
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 4: one to zero and obviously in MMA, but you've been

670
00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 4: knocked out, you've been stopped twice coming back on short

671
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 4: notice like that I think speaks volumes to where this

672
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 4: guy is mentally man like I have a I have

673
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 4: a total different appreciation for him. Like I always know

674
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 4: he was talented and it was obviously one of the

675
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 4: great great fighters, but this was different man to be

676
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 4: He put his balls on the line man. You know,

677
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 4: you know, no risk, no reward type of thing. And

678
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 4: he deserves every ACA lot he gets from this because

679
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 4: this was not I didn't see. It's it's hard enough

680
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,719
Speaker 4: to lose to a guy and come back and beat him.

681
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 6: Right.

682
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 4: In boxing, they always said that was the definition of

683
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 4: greatness is is that, you know, like Sugar Ray Robinson,

684
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 4: he would come back and beat guys that beat him.

685
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 6: This this was big man, and he did in short

686
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 6: notice that.

687
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 4: I don't know why I'm going with boxing, but I

688
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 4: almost think like when Duran beat Lennon, you know, Lennard

689
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 4: wanted that rematch as quick as possible because he knew

690
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 4: the weight would be a problem for Duran. Like, I

691
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,239
Speaker 4: don't know if that played into it, because you know,

692
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 4: the other guy's huge, and obviously I think he said

693
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 4: he's going up to two o five now. But I'm

694
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 4: saying genius on this. But you know, you could be small,

695
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 4: but you's still got to be able to execute. And

696
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 4: holy shit that he execute. Oh the time when I

697
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: thought John that it was not going his way, you

698
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 4: know what I mean, So hats off to him, man,

699
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 4: and I think psychologically I'm given that's the biggest takeaway

700
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 4: from me is where this guy is that mentally that

701
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 4: this is a different cat.

702
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: For sure, he's a mental giant. And although some people,

703
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: many people would still argue Anderson Silva as the greatest

704
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: midway champion in UFC history, look at all this man

705
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: has accomplished in five years. He made his UFC debut

706
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: February of two thy eighteen, and look at the wins list.

707
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: Anderson Silva's on it, Joel Romero is on it, Robert Whitaker,

708
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: the future Hall of Famer, is on it twice, Marvin Vttori,

709
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: Paolo Costa, Jared Kennedy or Derek Brunson, all the guys

710
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: that have comprised this era and flirted with the top five.

711
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: He's beaten all of these guys. And I think he's

712
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: won maybe eight title fight in the span of five years.

713
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely incredible.

714
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, you know, you know all of this

715
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 6: stuff too.

716
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 4: It's it's really where you're at in like, you know

717
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: who's pushing you, where the media is at you know

718
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 4: what I mean, who's behind you, who's not behind Anderson

719
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 4: Silver had a.

720
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 6: Great push at a great time.

721
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 4: But I think what you just laid out makes it

722
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 4: pretty obvious that is, he's bus he's the man. I mean,

723
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 4: I don't know, and you're obviously you're going to get

724
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 4: a lot of, you know, blowback from people that loved

725
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 4: Anderson Silver. And of course Anderson Silver was a great fighter.

726
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 4: But I think when you put down you know what

727
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 4: you just laid out with the opponents, and uh, you know,

728
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 4: I think it's it might be a no brainer, you

729
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 4: know what I mean, But like, you never know which

730
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 4: way the media has gone, how much push you get.

731
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 4: The company was definitely behind Anderson Silver, it seems more

732
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 4: than is he believe it or not, But that could

733
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 4: just be makers. You know, I'm not following everything, you know,

734
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 4: every second of the day.

735
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: But no one's going to argue Leon Edwards is the

736
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: greatest welterweight of all time. I actually think it would

737
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: be interesting to see a prime George Saint Pierre fight

738
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: a prime Leon Edwards. But Leon hasn't lost in forever.

739
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: And Kamar Usman was a guy who a lot of

740
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 1: people started to talk about in those GSP terms, and

741
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: he's got two head to head wins over him, both

742
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: of them with their own sort of value. So I

743
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: don't know, I just think based upon what I have

744
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: seen from Israelata Sonya, and based upon the era in

745
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: which he's competing for me, I think it can be

746
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: argued that he's the greatest UFC been away champion of

747
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: all time. But it's it's a cosmetic conversation.

748
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 6: Yeah it is.

749
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 4: And I think, you know what a lot of this

750
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 4: stuff with Leon who's one and everything, like, like, if

751
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 4: you favor boxing, you're going to look at every fight

752
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 4: from a boxing perspective. If you're a kickboxer, it's a

753
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 4: kickboxing you know. If you're a wrestler, it's a wrestling perspective.

754
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 4: So if you're a striker Leon Edward, you know, by

755
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 4: for what he's done is unbelievable, you know what I mean.

756
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 4: If you're a wrestler, you're probably going to lean towards USMA.

757
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 4: I think it's human nature. But you know, they're all

758
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 4: just great fighters.

759
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 3: Man.

760
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 4: I don't even like having those conversations because I think

761
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 4: they I don't know, they're run fulfilling these guys. You know,

762
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 4: you put your balls on the line and you rattle

763
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 4: off eleven wins in a row.

764
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 6: I mean, just statistically that's not easy to do, you know.

765
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: So Alex Padata has said his next fight is going

766
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: to be at two hundred and five pounds, but he

767
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: also qualified it by saying that he can make eighty

768
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: five whenever he needs to, and that is absolutely the case.

769
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: He methodically got himself to a position where he has

770
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: now mastered this weight cut. I don't expect him to

771
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,959
Speaker 1: all of a sudden put on a bunch of weight

772
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: in order to realize success at two oh five. I

773
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised to see him bounce between divisions. But

774
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: let's get to Israelato, Sonia, Eugene Barman, and others have

775
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: talked about who might be next for him. Seemed as

776
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: though Eugene Barman I believe, in a conversation with Ariojowani,

777
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 1: was very dismissive of Hamzatschimayev as the number one contender

778
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: because Toms hasn't competed at eighty five and I know

779
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: your guy, Chris Wiman still has to get through this

780
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: comeback fight in July. But Chris Wiman is a future

781
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. He has one of the biggest names

782
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: in this division. He was the guy that vanquished Anderson

783
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: Silva back in twenty thirteen. So if Chris Widman comes

784
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: back in July and say he fights like Sean Strickland

785
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: and beats a guy like that, it ain't out of

786
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 1: the realm of possibility that your guy, Chris Weiman could

787
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 1: find himself back in a Middleway championship situation against Israelta Sign.

788
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, No, I don't think you're crazy. I

789
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 4: think that's the nature of the sport, you know. I mean,

790
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 4: I think that's how Alex even got the shot right.

791
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 4: He didn't have a lot of experience, but you know,

792
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 4: there was a storyline behind there, and it played out

793
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 4: to Alex's favor, and now it played out to Isney's favor.

794
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: But no, Whiman. Look, you know, with the injury. I

795
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 4: talked to him after the submission match. He said he,

796
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 4: you know, he was happy to be back in there.

797
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 4: He tested his leg. Even though it didn't go his way,

798
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 4: he was still was a positive experience for him. And look, man,

799
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 4: these injuries, this is brutal.

800
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 6: Man.

801
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 4: Look, if anybody could do it, it's fucking Widman. I mean,

802
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 4: I just you know, he is getting older, and I

803
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 4: don't know, I mean, I could tell you if he

804
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 4: was younger.

805
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 6: There's absolutely no question in my mind.

806
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 4: But what happens right, you know, so there's still a

807
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 4: lot on the table for him. But he did say

808
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 4: he felt great and it was great to be back

809
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 4: in there, and uh yeah, no, look on every given

810
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 4: I've never seen the guy really have a problem in

811
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 4: the training room with it. Like any wrestling guy that's

812
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 4: still good. He still competes man, you know what I mean,

813
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 4: He's still in that. You know, he still has it.

814
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: So well, he's not going to accept the number forty

815
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: guy in the world and they're not going to offer

816
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: him the fortieth ranks to middleweight in the world. Wellman's

817
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 1: going to be thirty nine years of age in June.

818
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: But it's not out of the realm of possibility that

819
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: he fights someone like Roman Delidze or Treekeist Dupless potentially

820
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: trying to help build one of those guys to see

821
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: if they can take out the former champion. I don't know.

822
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: I didn't plan to go down this widman with you today,

823
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: but as I was thinking about guys like Roman d'alidze

824
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: and the lack of an obvious number one midway contender

825
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: right now, I harken back to a conversation I have

826
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: with Wiman in Miami. He was there as a guest fighter,

827
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 1: and crazier things have happened, is all I'm saying now

828
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: in terms of at Assan go ahead.

829
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 4: In my list conversation with him, I thought that Drick

830
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 4: is if I'm saying his name right, I thought that

831
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 4: that's the fight for him.

832
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 6: I like that.

833
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: So Dupless he just had surgery for a deviated septum.

834
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: But knowing knowing the South African Dupless the way I do,

835
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: he's not going to idle. He's probably going to try

836
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: to fight in July. And I think a Wiman d

837
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: plus he fight makes a lot of sense now. At

838
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: a Sonya won't even utter the South African's name, and

839
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: it seems like there is already sort of a foundation

840
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 1: for those two fighting, you know, at a Sonya taking exception,

841
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: I think with his Africanism or whatever it is, right,

842
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: du Pless he needs another fight. I really firmly believe that,

843
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: even though he hasn't lost in the UFC yet and

844
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: he is fresh meat so to speak. I think Dupless

845
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: he's got to have one more fight.

846
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 4: So oh what out of doubt that's a I lookt

847
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 4: no offense.

848
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: The guy's a game.

849
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 4: Seems like a great guy, but that's an easy fight

850
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 4: for Izzy that there is no question about it. That's

851
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 4: he's definitely does it to me, and I'm not I'm

852
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 4: not criticizing.

853
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 6: He just doesn't look like he's ready for that level.

854
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 4: Especially John, what we saw satisfy the guy's on another level.

855
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 6: To me at this point, he really is. That was

856
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 6: that was a big yeah.

857
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: I think other than Robert Whitaker, Otosani's going to be

858
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: minus three hundred or north of that against any of

859
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: these one hundred and eighty five pounders. And I do

860
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: believe that Dupless he is just getting started. Yes, this

861
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: is a great coach, but I do think more developmental

862
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: time is needed. I have talked to Dupless about just

863
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: getting a five round fight before he gets to a

864
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: championship fight, and I think that's a big initiative for him.

865
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: South Africa is not getting done in twenty twenty three.

866
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: I think even twenty twenty four is ambitious, but we'll

867
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: see what happens. One thing that the Kada Sanni camp, though,

868
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: has talked about, is not trotting out one of these

869
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: guys that he's fought before. And even though Paolo Costa

870
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: and Marvin Vittori and Jared Kannanier are all riding winning streaks.

871
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: Those guys are not going to be next. I don't

872
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: think a Whitaker trilogy is going to happen right now,

873
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: even though certainly I would sign up to see that

874
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: fight every day of the week. Some people have suggested

875
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: that maybe Otta Sani could move up to two h

876
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: five right now and fight Jamal Hill. I think there's

877
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: enough going on at light heavyweight where you don't need

878
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: to inject aut A Signi into the equation. But it

879
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: is interesting because, as I said on Monday, for the

880
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: first time in Autasani's career, he didn't have any motivation

881
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: to spin it forward on fight night, and as we've

882
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: sort of outlined here, there isn't an obvious number one

883
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: contender unless I'm missing someone.

884
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,479
Speaker 4: Look, I think the only fight to make it eighty five.

885
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: I don't care if he's fought there or not is Hams.

886
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 4: That's the only fight to make. All the other names

887
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 4: you mentioned, they're not beating them, you know what I mean?

888
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 4: That Jamal Hill fight is interesting, but I mean that's

889
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 4: a that's a big step up too.

890
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: Well, like Islamikashav's first title defense was a super fight

891
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: fighting another champion, and are they going to do that again? Right,

892
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: Not to say that Atosani isn't worthy. He was reluctant

893
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: actually to fight yan Behovich. When he moved up and

894
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: did it. That seemed to be more spearheaded by Eugene Barman,

895
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: if memory serves. But I don't know that Atosani wants

896
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: to go belt chasing at two oh five necessarily right now,

897
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: but with the lack of an obvious number one contender,

898
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: if Uri pro Hosk is not healthy, would you be

899
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: surprised to see Jamal Hill and is he fighting three

900
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: or four months? I know they're boys, but I wouldn't

901
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: be surprised.

902
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 4: Oh I didn't even know they were boys, but uh,

903
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 4: that wouldn't surprise me. But I'm telling you the fight

904
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 4: to make his Hamzai no.

905
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: And I agree you and I are aligned. Even though

906
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: Hamzachimi have hasn't competed at eighty five in the UFC,

907
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: He's the number one welterweight contender as far as I'm

908
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: concerned with Respectablah Muhammad and everybody else. Hamza Chimayev is

909
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: leaving the division as the number one contender. I wouldn't

910
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: be surprised if he is given every opportunity. Whitaker sort

911
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: of intimated that Hamzaut has a hard time moving around,

912
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 1: so perhaps that's part of the issue. Hey, I want

913
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: to switch gears here if I could, because al Jamn

914
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: Sterling is like twenty three days out from his next

915
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: time ever once is that right?

916
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 3: Yep?

917
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: One thing that I had in my notes, And even

918
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: though al Jo had a win over pyodr Yan, in

919
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: terms of the mind fuck going into that Yon rematch,

920
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: I drew a parallel between mentally, what is he had

921
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: to deal with being down three to nil and what

922
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: al Jo had to deal with. I know the situations

923
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: are completely different, but when we were going into that rematch,

924
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: we talked about all the mental resolve and fort two

925
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: that al Jo was going to need to get through

926
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: that training camp and that fight, and obviously he got

927
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: through it all with flying colors. I guess it's a

928
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: long winded way of me saying I see al Jamaine

929
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: Sterling on that mental level with Israelato Sonia, and he

930
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: wasn't always that way. And now I see Alja Man

931
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: Sterling as being maybe you know, the mentally toughest guy

932
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: at thirty five next to my guy Dom Cruz.

933
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 6: That's awesome. Yeah, al Joe, look what he did.

934
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 4: You know, I think the stars are aligning like very

935
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 4: correctly for Aljo everything. You know, he got a little older,

936
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 4: he's got more experience. He's got the experience in the

937
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 4: octagon also, But again I was there. I mean the

938
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 4: hatred that was thrown towards him, it's for a year,

939
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 4: I mean it was I'm saying, you have to be

940
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 4: a special guy to be able to absorb that. And

941
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 4: I think al Jo's personality is the exact personality you need.

942
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 4: He's he's really just a nice guy that there is now.

943
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 4: I don't think that I have said this. I don't

944
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 4: think there's a malicious bone in his body, you know

945
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 4: what I mean. And he's having a great time. He's

946
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 4: in a great spot. I think he's grateful for everything

947
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 4: he has right now, and you know, moving forward, I

948
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: think it's just going to make him a tougher fight

949
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 4: because he's going to be free to, you know, take

950
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 4: chances and do what he wants. Because I think if

951
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 4: if everything ended tomorrow, he's a happy camper, right, you know.

952
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 4: But so I think that's what makes them dangerous. But yeah, no,

953
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 4: I think just like, uh, you know, the isy thing

954
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 4: obviously is a little different because Aljiel was illegally need

955
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 4: but uh, I think like again, you know, I remember

956
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 4: having a conversation with Aljiel. Did the diet really? Did

957
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 4: that breakfast thing really mess you up? Because if if

958
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 4: you're telling me the truth, then I don't think we

959
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 4: have to change much. But if you tell him, you know,

960
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 4: if you're not really sure, then we got to go

961
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 4: back to the drawing.

962
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,479
Speaker 6: But he's at one hundred percent it'll never happen again. Wow,

963
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 6: I was way off.

964
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I mean I really had a hard talk

965
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 4: talk with him, and he's an honest dude. He's going

966
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 4: to tell you exactly what he's thinking and feelings. So

967
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 4: I knew at that point even after that conversation, we

968
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 4: had a different fight.

969
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: How about you rocking the old school bad boy threads?

970
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: Is that a Chris Widman bad Boy edition or what?

971
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 4: This is definitely a Wideman bad Boy edition.

972
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 6: That's pretty as shout out to Chris Whiteman.

973
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 4: He said some very nice words about me during the

974
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: Q and A you like that, I gotta give I

975
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 4: got to give him.

976
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 6: A call on that.

977
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was cool.

978
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, John, that was then those days, those days are disappearing.

979
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 6: You know, this generation is crazy.

980
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: But his words really resonated with me because you're a

981
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: phone call guy, and I'm not sitting here suggesting that

982
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: I'm one of your fighters. But there's a lot of

983
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: things that happen in my life as a public figure

984
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: that you've supported me on, calling me making sure that

985
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm okay. And so when he said that in front

986
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: of three thousand people or whatever it was, it really

987
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: struck a chord with me because I said, he's that

988
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: guy even to non fighters, right, just go in the

989
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: extra mile and you're gonna call Chris today, right, instead

990
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 1: of just sending him a text message. Right, You're actually

991
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: going to call the guy. So I like it, all right.

992
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 6: Well I might send him a text.

993
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: Now.

994
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 6: What is my.

995
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 4: Biggest regret is as I'm getting older, I'm doing like less,

996
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 4: you know. But back in the day, man, I really

997
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 4: thrive to it for that type of stuff. But you

998
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 4: know things, you know, its like again, it's I don't

999
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 4: think I have the energy because I would try to

1000
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 4: help as many people as possible, but I hope. I'm

1001
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 4: still trying, but I don't think I can accomplish the

1002
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 4: mission as good.

1003
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: Don't sell yourself short. So Jake Paul is fighting Nate

1004
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: Diaz on August fifth, twenty twenty three, live on pay

1005
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: per view. Now, I like Jake Paul, I like his

1006
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: work ethic, but I have been sitting here finding myself

1007
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: rooting for all of these other athletes ex. MMA fighters

1008
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: and the like to beat this man. Right and yeah,

1009
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 1: Tommy Fury beat him and that's all well and good,

1010
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: but I hope Nate Diaz can find a way to

1011
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: beat him. NATed is about a two or three to

1012
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: one underdog against Jake Paul. It's gonna be at one

1013
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty five pounds. What are your thoughts on

1014
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: Nate did as his chances to spring the upset against

1015
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: Shake Paul here in three or four months.

1016
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, let me just address why you feel the way

1017
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 4: you feel, right, because you got a young guy who's

1018
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 4: picking guys that are wait past their prime, that have

1019
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 4: never put on a pair of boxing gloves. That's why

1020
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 4: you're rooting against him because he might be a nice guy,

1021
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 4: but his genius isn't picking his opponent It's like nath

1022
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 4: Diaz is a fifty five pound who went up to

1023
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 4: one seventy. Now he's boxing at one eighty five. Why

1024
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 4: not make it two fifty?

1025
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: Right?

1026
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 6: This is this is this is the issue.

1027
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 4: You know, you're not boxing Nate at one seventy now

1028
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 4: you even want that advantage because you're a bigger guy.

1029
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 4: I can tell you again, I go back this. It's

1030
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 4: it's timing, right, Nate Diaz four or five years ago,

1031
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 4: one hundred percent to me win zev fight at one

1032
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 4: eighty five.

1033
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 6: You know, now we got to see what he has.

1034
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 6: He you know, he's still going to be in there.

1035
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 4: And if he's but uh, Evan Longoria just said, like

1036
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 4: he heard that he's still you know, going, he's doing

1037
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 4: great in the gym and all that stuff. If that's true,

1038
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 4: he's going to win the fight, you know, because he

1039
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 4: is going to bring it. He is going to try

1040
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 4: to out volume the guy. He's going to make him work.

1041
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 4: But you know, like again, it's everything. This is why

1042
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 4: you're rooting against him, whether you like him you don't

1043
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 4: like him, because everything is in his favor age, weight,

1044
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 4: you know, just you name it, he's got it, corn it,

1045
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 4: you know, what I mean, like, did anybody think ben

1046
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 4: Askrom was going to win that fight?

1047
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 6: You know? And I think I love ben Askar.

1048
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 4: I think he was you know, obviously his wrestling is

1049
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 4: disappear but the guy couldn't break an egg in the UFC.

1050
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 6: If he was mounted on you, he couldn't hurt you.

1051
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 6: Why would anybody think he was winning that fight? People

1052
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 6: were saying this his Olympic mentality or his wrestling.

1053
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 4: How does that is that even play in You got

1054
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 4: to be able to hurt a guy, You got to

1055
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 4: be able to have some defense, you know what I mean.

1056
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 6: So this is why I think, first off.

1057
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: Is that the no I mean, I took boxing lessons

1058
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: for two years and I feel like, you know, I

1059
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: could realize some success against ben Askron if I put

1060
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: a training camp on the front end of it. With

1061
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: all due respect, in that competitive setting, ben Askron didn't

1062
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: have a chance. Did Jake Paul ben Askron fight? That

1063
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: was one of the greatest betting opportunities of my lifetime.

1064
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: Wodley certainly had a chance, Anderson Silva had a chance,

1065
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: But most people would argue ben Askron as one of

1066
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: the the lesser strikers in the history of the Ultimate

1067
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: Fighting Championship.

1068
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 4: So I think he'll tell you that, Yeah, that's what

1069
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 4: I love about him. He's the first guy to tell

1070
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 4: you that.

1071
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 6: I think.

1072
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 4: I was at a Belatov fight years ago when he

1073
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 4: was start with he said, can somebody help me with

1074
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 4: my striking?

1075
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 6: Help keep that.

1076
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: From Yes, right, he's.

1077
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 6: That's that's what you love about and that's a that's

1078
00:50:58,560 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 6: an honest guy.

1079
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 4: Was the other the guys always maneuvering and could winking

1080
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 4: these guys into it.

1081
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Speaker 3: I just so to me.

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00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 6: And again, this is where I go crazy with the

1083
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 6: Athletic Commissions, because they're supposed to level the playing field,

1084
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 6: make sure everything's safe, but then they like crap like

1085
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 6: this go on and you go, who cares? You know

1086
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 6: what I mean? This is this is what happens. So

1087
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 6: technically that fight should have ever even happened.

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00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: So there are certain boxers that are appointment viewing for me.

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00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: I buy all their pay per views, Ryan Garcia, the

1090
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: heavy I guess, Tyson Fury not necessarily Deontay Wilder. I'm

1091
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: always buying their fights when they're fighting. But Cody's telling

1092
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: me that this Jake Paul Na Diaz fight will be

1093
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: the best selling boxing fight of twenty twenty three. And

1094
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: that's the issue with boxing. Now, is that going to

1095
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: be the biggest pay per view of the year on

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00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 1: the boxing side.

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Speaker 6: I don't follow it enough, but I could see it

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00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 6: being a big. Look.

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Speaker 4: Nate's got a big following. This kid's got a big following.

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00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 4: Why wouldn't it be. I mean, yeah, yeah, oh, I'll

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00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 4: definitely buy.

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00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to go.

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00:51:58,960 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you want to go?

1104
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to go. You want to go to

1105
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: J Paul, Me and you in Dallas.

1106
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 6: Let's do it, all right.

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Speaker 1: I'll bring my two ownine tattoo, but.

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00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 4: You'll go because you'll love Nate Diaz, correct, right, I

1109
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 4: mean that's that's the you know, everybody loves Nate Diaz.

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00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: If you're only listening, I'm holding up a great piece

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00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: of artwork in my office of Nate DZ. This a

1112
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 1: little bit better than the Kenny Florian photo I showed

1113
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: earlier in the week. How about this piece of art?

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00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 6: Man, that's really good? Who did that?

1115
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: I want to say, it's like Tipple or tippet.

1116
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 3: Uh.

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00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: He's going to kill me forgetting his name wrong, but

1118
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: a really great piece.

1119
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 6: This is his big shot and we can't get his

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00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 6: name right.

1121
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: Ah well, hey, I'll get his name right in the future.

1122
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 1: He's going to see this. I follow him on social media.

1123
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:56,959
Speaker 1: But that's a great Nate DS piece.

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Speaker 6: And yeah that picture we got the great We got

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00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 6: the Ross.

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00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: Bains Max Holloway piece behind me. How about this one?

1127
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 4: Oh man?

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00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: So this was said to me because I suggested that

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00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: what Max Holloway did against Calvin Cator in twenty twenty

1130
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: one was the greatest singular performance in UFC history. No

1131
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: fighter has thrown nor landed more strikes in a mixed

1132
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: martial arts contest ever. And here's the Ross Bains piece

1133
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: of artwork for you.

1134
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 6: Wow, love it. Wow, look at that man, really really nice.

1135
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: But of course Tyson Shottier and my guys from the

1136
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: New England cartel have taken issue with the fact that

1137
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: my guy cal is in my office all bloodied and battered.

1138
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: But Max Holloway fights this weekend. Arnold Allen, who do

1139
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: you like?

1140
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 3: Uh?

1141
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: My twin brother likes Arnold Allen. Everybody else likes Max Holloway.

1142
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 4: You know, I tell you for I mean like Alan, Look,

1143
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 4: he's definitely squared away, he's a great fight. Let's say,

1144
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 4: he's a big test for him, I think obviously, But

1145
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,479
Speaker 4: you know, does Halloway still have it? You know, I thought,

1146
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 4: you know, Tita was gonna win that fight. I thought

1147
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 4: that was one of the best fights Holloway ever had.

1148
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 4: You know, I just messed another master masterful performance. I

1149
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 4: just think experience wise, I'm going to go with with Halloway,

1150
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 4: all right.

1151
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: And the last thing I had in my notes for

1152
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: you today. We have seen when it comes to City

1153
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: Kickboxing and Trevor Whitman's team that their athletes have been

1154
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 1: given the chance to compete on the same cards multiple

1155
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: times over. Now when it comes to the ANZAC contingent,

1156
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different, right, Kaikata France and Alexander

1157
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: Volkanowski and Israel Loto Sonia, They're all traveling long distances

1158
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: essentially for every fight. But you have noticed at times

1159
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: with Rosnama Unis and Justin Gitchein and Kamar Usman all

1160
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: competing on the same card. So you got for Vola

1161
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: and Al Joe at UFC two eighty eight. But we

1162
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: got to get to a point, Raymond, where you got

1163
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: Al Joe and may Rob and for Vola competing on

1164
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: this same Card. I mean, if anybody should has earned that,

1165
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: it's you. And I think for May Robin Al Joe

1166
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 1: before they retire and Dennis Bazooka, I think that would

1167
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: be a really enjoyable thing for them to compete on

1168
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: a fight cards.

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00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 6: Again, that's I never thought of it like that. That's

1170
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 6: pretty cool though, but uh, I.

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00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: Mean, I'll tell you we've even for Trevor Whitman, sorry

1172
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: to interrupt you, listenership really mad at me on Monday

1173
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: because I cut off Kenhe all the time. It was

1174
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: only because we had audio issues. I actually never cut

1175
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: the guy off. But at times we've actually manipulated the

1176
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: bout order so that Trevor Whitman might have time between fights.

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00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: Remember when Justin Gagee Michael Chandler was the first part

1178
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Speaker 1: of the night.

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00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 6: You know, yeah, I want to pick that that that

1180
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 6: they have to do that though, I think that makes

1181
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 6: a big difference, you know what I mean?

1182
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 3: If you know, but look when.

1183
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,439
Speaker 4: Matt won the title against gesp in two thousand and seven,

1184
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 4: I had Sarah Pete, drago Cell and Luke Como all

1185
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 4: on the same night.

1186
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 6: Sows good.

1187
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 4: That means I think we you know, and obviously on

1188
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 4: the local scene. You have five guys fighting, so it's

1189
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 4: not out of the question. But when the fight's of

1190
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 4: a bigger magnitude like that, you bring up a great point.

1191
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 4: That would be awesome Al Joe and Morob on the same.

1192
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: Card, you know, And I think it can be as

1193
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: simple as al Jo gets through this fight and then

1194
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: maybe you guys really try to see if there's a

1195
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: way for you guys to do that.

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00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 6: This is a huge fight for that reason, you know.

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00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 4: Moving forward, you know we're gonna a lot of things

1198
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 4: are going to clear up, and uh, I think it's

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00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 4: all gonna work out great. But that would that would

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00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 4: be awesome, That really would be would be fantastic.

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00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: You have Marob fight Cory Sandhagen or Cheeto Vera or

1202
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: maybe even Umar and or Mago Matov if you want

1203
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: that fight, and then al Joe could be defending his

1204
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:42,919
Speaker 1: title against one of those other guys.

1205
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 6: You know with this Umar just.

1206
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 4: In checked himself into the into the title picture or

1207
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 4: whatever picture he's put themselves.

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00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't take that fight?

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00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 6: But the thing is, it's I gotta tell you, so,

1210
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 6: when when was Morob's fight? Can you look?

1211
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Marshal Marshall eleven.

1212
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 6: So you know what they do.

1213
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 4: They call him the next week. Then that's a five

1214
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 4: round fight where he was unbelievable.

1215
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: Injured going in though injured, going in.

1216
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 4: Injured, going in Uh who you know they call them,

1217
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 4: They say they wanted to fight May thirteenth.

1218
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean the main event in Charlotte.

1219
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, they wanted to fight May thirteenth. The guy just

1220
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 4: got done fighting. I'm like, who the fuck makes that

1221
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 4: phone call? Like, well what I go? What a nice guy?

1222
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 4: So he's got to go right back into camp. He

1223
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 4: takes a week off, and then you throw him right

1224
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 4: back in there.

1225
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: Against the guy ranked seven eight nine, And now you

1226
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: got Omar.

1227
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 6: You know, hey, get well soon, like he's fighting the guy.

1228
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 6: Like the fucking whole thing is bullshit.

1229
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't I don't know, is it me?

1230
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 6: I'm not even going to say anything.

1231
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: Well, no, I know, you try to stay in your

1232
00:57:56,080 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: lane and you're not a manager. But I'd imagine cooler

1233
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: heads would prevail and somebody like yourself or Matt Sarah

1234
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: would be like, Morob, you're not fighting on fucking May thirteenth.

1235
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 6: Oh they know, Marob probably will fight every day of

1236
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 6: the week. If you're offered to him, but his manager

1237
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 6: called me and I was actually laughing. I go, yeah,

1238
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 6: there's a joke, right, why not just make it April, sop,

1239
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 6: Let's have him fighting two I mean, I don't know.

1240
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy.

1241
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 4: May thirteenth, so you got to go back in in April,

1242
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 4: so it was March thirteenth, so you take two weeks

1243
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 4: so off.

1244
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 6: Look, you know it is what it is.

1245
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 4: But you know they obviously somebody doesn't like morob and

1246
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,919
Speaker 4: like again, I don't know where Umar even comes into

1247
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 4: this conversation, but he has to definitely fight somebody first,

1248
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 4: and that would be my opinion, and work your way

1249
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 4: up like everybody else did.

1250
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: But just imagine for a second September Vegas pay per

1251
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: View Moving Night in the bantamweight division, al Jamin Sterling

1252
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: defending his belt against Sean O'Malley co headliner Cory Sanagen

1253
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: versus mirob to all the Squilly Cheeto Vera versus pyotr

1254
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: Yan and the featured bout. You build out a whole

1255
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: car to the bandon weights.

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00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 6: I love it. I think.

1257
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 4: That's why you got to beat the matchmaker John, come on,

1258
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 4: but that would be that would be outstanding. That would

1259
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 4: be awesome. And I think we're aheading towards that. Man,

1260
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 4: I feel it, you know, so all good stuff.

1261
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: All right, brother, Well, we have taken enough of your

1262
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: time this week, much obliged. We will be back with

1263
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: you on Monday as we look at Max Holloway, Arnold

1264
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: Allen and then look ahead to Sergey Pavlovich and Curtis

1265
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: Razor Blades. But we appreciate your time. We appreciate your

1266
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: bad Boys shirt. And I don't know this long ago.

1267
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: There's two long goos. Now I have two long goos

1268
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: in my life right now is going to be a

1269
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: tricky navigation for me.

1270
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Speaker 3: So is that what is that his nickname? Yeah?

1271
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:48,959
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's pretty cool.

1272
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: Hey, when you get off the air, go google Evan

1273
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: Longoria career earnings make you feel real good? Yeah, no,

1274
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: he's done really well.

1275
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 6: You know. Time I going to do that.

1276
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 4: I keep st towards Eva Longori all right, yeah, but

1277
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 4: it just happened. Can we get Eva Longorire on the show?

1278
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: We will try. We will effort that. Yeah, her career

1279
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: earning is probably better than Evan's. Hey, thank you, buddy.

1280
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: We'll talk to him Monday.

1281
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 3: Right, you're the best, John, thanks Buddy.

1282
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: All Right, there he is Ray Longo with us here

1283
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: on the Anakin Florian Podcast. Hope you enjoyed the bonus

1284
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: content this week. Just felt like we needed to dive

1285
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: a little bit deeper on UFC two eighty seven and

1286
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: Evan Longori is one of so many Major League Baseball

1287
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: players that absolutely love the UFC and mixed martial arts.

1288
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: And a lot of them are high profile guys. Blake

1289
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,439
Speaker 1: Snell of the San Diego Padres, former Cy Young Award winner,

1290
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: huge UFC fan, and a lot of our listeners know

1291
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: about Trevor Story and Carlos core and Lance mccullor's junior.

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01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: Corey and Lance mccullor Junior actually did a podcast together

1293
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Speaker 1: when they were Astro's teammates. So I did ask Evan

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Speaker 1: Longoria about working together, and I think he wants the

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Speaker 1: focus to be on the field at least until he retires.

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Speaker 1: But I do think Evan Longoria is going to be

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Speaker 1: heard from in the MMA space at the end of

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Speaker 1: his career thanks to Ray Longo, thanks to Eving Longo, Longoria,

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Speaker 1: thanks to our executive producer Cody Merrol. Put it all together,

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Speaker 1: and we'll be back with you next Monday, full recap

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Speaker 1: of Max Holloway and Arnold Allen, and of course more

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Speaker 1: predictions coming your way in advance of the UFC Fight

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Speaker 1: Night coming up on April twenty second. Don't forget. Full

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Speaker 1: episodes of the anikin Florian podcast on the video side

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Speaker 1: can be found on the DraftKings YouTube channel. Clips still

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Speaker 1: available on the AF channel, as our full length episodes

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Speaker 1: of Remember the Show with Blah Muhammad and Jason Anak

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Speaker 1: Cody Merrow. Thank you very much, I'm John Anna signing

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Speaker 1: off for now. We'll talk to you Monday morning live

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Speaker 1: on the DraftKings YouTube channel. Until then, health greater than wealth.

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Speaker 3: Feel later.