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Speaker 1: My narcissistic sister ruins family bonds for attention. Now she

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Speaker 1: only has me. Trigger warning, we talk about some extremely

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Speaker 1: dangerous scenarios with natural disasters. If that is a trigger

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Speaker 1: for you, I would recommend skipping to the next story,

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Speaker 1: next episode. Thank you. Let's get into.

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Speaker 2: It well, well, well who she.

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Speaker 1: Can ruin next? This is the story of my sister

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Speaker 1: thirty five, female Jill and her journey to proving to

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Speaker 1: everyone everywhere that she's the Queen of narcissism.

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Speaker 2: The lord of egotism.

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Speaker 1: Love that, but I'll let y'all be the judge of that.

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Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from Lizzyboo and if you

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Speaker 1: would submit your own stories, go to our slash okay.

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Speaker 1: Storytime sent him in to accept the stage. Jill and

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Speaker 1: I are the youngest of five in a blended family,

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Speaker 1: the other two from my dad's side. My sister and

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Speaker 1: being the baby growing up, she was voted most likely

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Speaker 2: Why was that an option? Why was that an option?

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Speaker 3: Most likely to be a loser. You got to have

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Speaker 3: a rock bottom somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, dang, you have to have a for the

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Speaker 1: most likely to see to mean something, you guys, So

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Speaker 1: you got to show this sect right.

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Speaker 2: School sounds like a nightmare shot to flowd his education

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Speaker 2: the eighties high school school? Is this woo high school movie?

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Speaker 2: Am't this is the truth?

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Speaker 1: Fast forward to age nineteen. Jill has found Allan and

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Speaker 1: decides that now is the time to get pregnant. So

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Speaker 1: Jill make sure to get pregnant. Our family practices a

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Speaker 1: Alan and Jill agree, and they began planning the wedding.

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Speaker 1: Here's where we get a good first look at the narcissism.

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Speaker 1: I speak up classic First, Jill and Allen already had

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Speaker 1: were in decent credit card debt, so to start their

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Speaker 1: their debts clear and that is I mean, it depends

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Speaker 1: not nothing even on the lower end of so like that,

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Speaker 1: she changed tens of thousands. Maybe my mother gifted Jill

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Speaker 1: my parents' original wedding bands. Wow, they helped with the

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Speaker 1: wedding and offered to buy reasonably priced addresses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very fair. They've already paid off the credit

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Speaker 1: Might as well throw in one thousand dollars five thousand

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Speaker 2: I know that you just paid off my credit card debt,

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Speaker 1: But she said, I'm lebron and I'm putting numbers on

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Speaker 1: the wedding bands my mother gave her, forcing them to

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Speaker 1: find her better quote unquote bands. Any contribution made to

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Speaker 1: the wedding was met with more expectations or disapproval. No,

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Speaker 1: after the wedding, we all figured it would all work out.

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Speaker 1: After all, Alan and Jill did seem to work well together,

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Speaker 1: and now they have the most amazing, perfect little baby boy.

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Speaker 1: All seems great with normal relationship struggles.

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Speaker 2: I don't buy it. I don't buy it.

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Speaker 3: John, what do you mean kids fixed relationships?

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Speaker 1: You're right, this is a fact.

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Speaker 3: My parents stayed together after they had me, So.

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Speaker 2: You saved their relationship. So what I'm hearing is that

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Speaker 2: you need to hire Riley to be your child, to

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Speaker 1: Just double the.

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Speaker 3: Price of whatever these guys are paying me and I'll

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Speaker 2: Not allowed, No, you're stuck here.

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Speaker 1: It'll start a bidding war. At this time, I unfortunately

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Speaker 1: I've left home for a few years, rarely contacting family.

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Speaker 1: an experience. I'm now back in the family and came

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Speaker 1: in with the impression that my sister was a saint,

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Speaker 1: to Bounce and baby number three, another boy. Are grandma

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Speaker 1: Following our grandmother's passing. A few months later, there's a

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Speaker 1: My sister and her husband were in my oldest nephew's

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Speaker 1: I don't like this. Their town home was sat very

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Speaker 1: We don't know what they don't like. Before my sister

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Speaker 2: Thank God, thank God, Oh my holy cos Jesus.

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Speaker 1: Oh God. You would think this was a humbling experience. No,

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Speaker 1: this was a learning experience for all of us. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if op he's setting up to be like

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Speaker 1: because she sucks, like she's like an ourcisstem and everything.

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Speaker 2: Get, give her give her some someway, some leeway, because

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Speaker 1: Oh my God, I think that's the most like insane

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Speaker 1: survival scenario, traumatic experience we've we've seen on the show. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: let me I I agree. Everyone in the community reached

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Speaker 1: out and gave service to my sister's family, and it

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Speaker 1: jim My sister belonged to, raised funds for them. Local

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Speaker 2: That's great, great community, this is great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously, where do you live? Yeah, let's move there.

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Speaker 1: All I heard when she would go through donations was

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Speaker 1: Now she has this gaudy, huge, expensive wedding ring set.

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Speaker 2: And didn't she like on purpose lose the wedding ring set.

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Speaker 1: Well, fast forward now about a year to when I

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Speaker 3: It sounds like my house near Christmas right right, without

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Speaker 1: Yeah, those babies getting played with. Least the children get

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Speaker 3: He just puts on the TV and it's good to good,

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Speaker 1: Married too young. She doesn't love Alan. She just wants

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Speaker 3: Great, yeah, great relationship.

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Speaker 1: So he did go so far as to exchange pictures

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Speaker 3: Uh no, no, no, no, no, you get one shot,

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you miss every shot you don't take. Jes said there,

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Speaker 1: So there you go. You take that now. The agreement

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Speaker 3: Yep, it's Jeff Bezos's ex wife.

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Speaker 1: Per I'm just gonna keep going.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but she like she got a divorcing bank and

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Speaker 1: Oh well that's but.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty pretty sick move.

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Speaker 1: It's a great move.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty pro gamer move.

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Speaker 1: It was a program my mom. Fun fact, My mom

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Speaker 3: You see how everything is revolved around Johnny. He just

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Speaker 2: Honestly, we need to get more people to go and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Sophia, I think there's like an older one in

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Speaker 3: You could work on that.

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Speaker 1: We've read a story about that. That episode is still live, right, Noah.

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Speaker 2: I can't be only only like the top billionaires. Okay,

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Speaker 2: he is he's a top billionaire. Oh yeah, he's ninety

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Speaker 2: I'll set you guys up. What was happening here?

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Speaker 1: We're going to get back to it. Obie said she

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Speaker 1: Well, I think they had three kids. They were watching

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Speaker 3: Well, he's like looking at the girlfriend for like he's like.

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Speaker 1: saying she's not going over there just to be rejected,

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00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: and asked to talk by phone and said she can't

441
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 1: even be bothered to go in person to beg for money.

442
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, she can't even like go like try and go

443
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 2: under the guys that she actually wants to see her parents.

444
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, at least at least fake it. So yeah,

445
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 1: maybe they feel like, oh.

446
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 2: She's here again. Yeah, we'll give her money. No, she

447
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:28,959
Speaker 2: can't do that, dude, he's silly.

448
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: Obviously, this conversation didn't go her way, so my mom

449
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: offered to shop her cupboards and get whatever she needed

450
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: for the week to help. She's like selling her plates.

451
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 1: Come on, don't sell anything for her. My sister said, no, thanks,

452
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 1: she's fine on her own. Okay, thank god.

453
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, at least she has some standards, not standards, but uh,

454
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 2: the mom was like rols, well, I can sell my

455
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 2: last replates for you, and she's like, I guess, I

456
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 2: guess that would be bad. She's like, well, I don't

457
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: have more, but I got this shut off shut off.

458
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 2: My back's the last one after a tenth, and I've

459
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: got I've got on my teeth left. I suppose I

460
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 2: could sell loose and a kidney. I don't need both

461
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: of them. Oh my god, dude, too far. You need

462
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 2: some don't have any eggs yet.

463
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 3: The human body is a like it's bank. There's a

464
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 3: lot of things you can sew.

465
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: But an old human body though, Hey, you can get creative.

466
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: Oh god. So this led to the threat of her

467
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: and her little ones not coming to Christmas, which was

468
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: the only time all the little cousins get to get together,

469
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: and we had traditions we now had to adjust. We

470
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: try and try to change Jill's mind, but she insists

471
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 1: she's not coming. We make adjustments to the games we

472
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: play that she's not coming in we plan accordingly. Two

473
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: days before the Christmas gathering, guys, let's put an ICU

474
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,479
Speaker 1: in the comments. If you see what's happening here, if

475
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 1: you freaking see, if you're freaking seeing a you if

476
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: you're seeing a two days before a Christmas gathering, she

477
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: hints in the family text group that she might be coming,

478
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: might be coming. Yeah, we don't need to coordinate that

479
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: at all with you and your family of fives, Like.

480
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: You maya might not see me though, Who's just say,

481
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: I don't know.

482
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: I might make an appearance.

483
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 2: I might dot dot winky face. Everyone's like, what does

484
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: that mean? Are you coming? And she's like, I don't know.

485
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: She's like a like a high falutin society girl trying

486
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: to be like all cool in the loose.

487
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll be there, Maybe I won't.

488
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: I might make an appearance.

489
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm too busy.

490
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 3: I thought that the reason why the kids in it

491
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: comes because she could go sell the toys, sell the toys,

492
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 3: and then somehow eat food with their groceries.

493
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: I mean basically that's hey, honestly, you take Thanksgiving dinner,

494
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: that's groceries for like two weeks right.

495
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: There, It's so true, just take some leftovers.

496
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm warned not to scare her away and fear she'll

497
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: change her mind. We readjust the games again, but not

498
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: good enough because now there's extra kids now that the

499
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: BF is with her as well. Remember they have six children.

500
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: Now this means there was This means there wasn't enough presence,

501
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: So we forfeited our adult gifts that passes kids gifts

502
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: to balance it out.

503
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 2: What are adult gifts that passes kid gifts? Maybe like

504
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: a like a Starbucks gift card.

505
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: Something like yeah, I don't know, Like yeah, what does

506
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: a phone case?

507
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if the children have phones.

508
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. I don't know.

509
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 2: It's like a bottle of wine and they're like, you go.

510
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: Children, Yeah, it's gotta be something right. Socks and they

511
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: don't fit their little feet anyway, We're not going to

512
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: try and figure this how. We have a story to read.

513
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: Then there is the extreme PDA. Oh she was on

514
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 1: her boyfriend's laughs, facing him with her legs.

515
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 3: Rap.

516
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, dude, she's freaking.

517
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 3: I'm seeing things over that, dude.

518
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: This is a this is a spicy dancing club performance

519
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: in the Christmas living room, yie and making out with

520
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: him in front of everybody. We ain't at the club going. Remember,

521
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: our parents practice a very strict religion.

522
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: She does not give an f Remember.

523
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 1: That the last thing she said to my father was

524
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: thanks for nothing. When he wouldn't give her money for

525
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: her groceries. This all put us on Ick Moode and

526
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: we couldn't leave fast enough. On Christmas Eve, Jill decides

527
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: to break up with her boyfriend on Christmas Eve. You

528
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: couldn't wait, like.

529
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 2: In front of everyone.

530
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, she has to give herself a gift, all right.

531
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: She's like, you know what, this relationship has progressed to

532
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: its natural end, and I'd like us to go our

533
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 2: separate ways.

534
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 3: Conspiracy theory. She's already talking to another guy at this point.

535
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: Ooh yeah, I don't put it past her. She's already

536
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: cheated on our last person.

537
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 3: She's got to give her Christmas gift to someone else's year.

538
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: Oh god, but she's given it to everyone.

539
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, she said, Bet said the Christmas cheer is meant

540
00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: for us all.

541
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: She said it was because of the emotional intensity and

542
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: can't handle him being emotional and crying when she doesn't

543
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: give him attention. She can't stand his son, and she

544
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: didn't tell him. But she's wanting to get back with

545
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: Alan to work.

546
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,719
Speaker 2: Things out as someone else. Isn't he yes, isn't he

547
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 2: the one with the three other kids? I'm pretty sure

548
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: he's the one dating someone with three kids.

549
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: You might be right, I might be wrong.

550
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: She's dating someone with one kid.

551
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: Well, her now ex cried and pleaded, then ultimately put

552
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: on a Christmas Morning face for presents till her littles

553
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: were picked up by Alan and he packed up his

554
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: things and left. Jill already texted Alan, giving him the

555
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: green light and telling him that she'll do anything to

556
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: gain his trust and work on things, and she cancels

557
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: the divorce process. Alan doesn't respond, than she promises to

558
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: wait for him again, no response.

559
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 2: It's embarrassing.

560
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: I threw a party for her littles.

561
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: A birthday party.

562
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: A birthday party, I guess, for her littles to enjoy

563
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: some quality time with their an aunt and uncle making

564
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: gingerbread houses. Maybe it's like a like a snow in

565
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: you know.

566
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: A little bird party.

567
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 3: I'm gold bird.

568
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: Maybe it's cold inside outside.

569
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: They had burd baskets, played games and had pizza and

570
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: apple pie. Hey yo, like a real American. This was

571
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: the most time we had with them and loved every minute. However, no,

572
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 1: we learned from the kids a bit more truth on

573
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: what Jill had been sharing. Dang it, you see the

574
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: little ones were angry. Jill had broken up with her boyfriend,

575
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: so she called him over. There was an emotional reunion,

576
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: and she decided Alan won't leave his new girl, so

577
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: she might as well get back with the boyfriend. This

578
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: is such dude. Within twenty four hours, we went from

579
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm breaking up, we went from I'm making out with

580
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: you all over you can't get my arms off YouTube,

581
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: you're too emotional. I'm gonna dump you with the whole

582
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: family here on Christmas Eve. Now come Christmas Day, it's.

583
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 2: Like I'm getting back with Alan. Alan says nothing, And

584
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: now Alan doesn't like you, so she's like, nah, I

585
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: guess I'm gonna go back to both boyfriends.

586
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: He's like, I guess I got nothing better. So but

587
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: eventually no. Alan messages Jill saying he thought that she

588
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: was gonna wait for him, made.

589
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: For each other, due she's gonna freaking drop the boyfriend.

590
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: She said. He never responded and the kids missed him.

591
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: Alan and Jill meet to talk and my sister promises, promises,

592
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: no more cheating.

593
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: Maybe no more cheating.

594
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 1: Alan said to give him thirty days to tell his

595
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: girlfriend and give her a chance to get her taxes

596
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: because she paid them for the house. She paid four

597
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: six house, and he's gonna leave for Sophia. She saved

598
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: his house, and she's he's gonna leave her eyes hasn't

599
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: even told her. So he's gonna give her thirty days

600
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: to give her a chance to get her taxes so

601
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: she'll have funds to move somewhere else. Oh is waiting

602
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: on her tax refund to have any kind of money

603
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: to do this. My sister's lease is up in four months.

604
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: She's planning on kicking out this woman and her three

605
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: kids out by the end of the month. Were regardless

606
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: of her saving the house, improving the house, and paying

607
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: half of everything the last seven months. My sister doesn't

608
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: care her name is on the contract. She'll just have

609
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: her evicted. Wow. Now my sister is pretty much only

610
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: me and any friends that only know her side. She's

611
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: pushed away every family member, with the exception of the

612
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: oldest sibling who loves us all regardless of what we do.

613
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: And myself, I've gotten to the point where I want

614
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: to be more blunt and honest with her about how

615
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: I feel about her actions knowing her littles or struggling

616
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: with the whole thing and it's making it a lot harder,

617
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: believe it or not. There's a lot left on said.

618
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: Wow, you know what we need to do, Zeko says

619
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: lock Jill and Ellen up. I think we need to

620
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: put them in the room where we had those kids.

621
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 2: I think we take the kids out of the room.

622
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: Let them run around and go nuts, you know.

623
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: Just just let them get the energy out. Yeah, loose,

624
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: let them loose.

625
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: There was a lot left un said. I tried to

626
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: keep to the main points. So here's my quarry to

627
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: those that stuck through the story. Can you cure narcissism?

628
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: Can Alan and Jill rekindle their relationships and move on happily?

629
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: That's asking too much?

630
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: Do I risk losing access to the little ones by

631
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: making Jill feel unsupported and telling her how I feel?

632
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: And am I the ahole for being a supportive role

633
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: and not giving full honesty onto how she's been acting.

634
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: We have some comments, but we have to answer these questions.

635
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: Talk to me.

636
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 3: You just sound like you're honestly you're giving fly on

637
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: the wall, yeah kind of vibes. Even if you did

638
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 3: say something, I doubt Jill would even say or do anything.

639
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: That is a great point. Her parents.

640
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: Jill's parents are calling out on her bs, but she's

641
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 3: still not doing anything.

642
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: I think she'd be like, uh huh and then keep

643
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: doing it.

644
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

645
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: So just I don't know, and I think that she's

646
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: gonna get back together with Alan and then they're gonna

647
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: cheat on each other again.

648
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: I have an idea to throw out there.

649
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: Yes, throw it out.

650
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: This isn't like no contact, or maybe it's like some

651
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: it's like medium contact. But I'm thinking intervention. You get

652
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: mom and dad, you get like every everyone who has

653
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: this Christmas thing who's probably like what the F is

654
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: going on? Get everyone together, get Jill in a room

655
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: and be like, listen up, Jill. The same room, same room,

656
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: the same room with the kids were in. Yeah, lock

657
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: the door, just like Jill did. Be like, Jill, you're

658
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: absolutely crazy.

659
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: Out of control.

660
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: You're absolutely out of control. There will be literally zero

661
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: dollars going to support you. There will be zero support.

662
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: If you text us, hey, I'm gonna be here two

663
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: days out of Christmas, there will be zero support for that.

664
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: We would like to move forward, build a relationship, see

665
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: you grow and mature and change and like all this

666
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: beautiful stuff be in the kids' lives. But if you

667
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: don't stop being a freaking crazy person, we're not gonna

668
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: support and enable it. Yeah, what do we think about that?

669
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: I think it's good. I think it's a good idea.

670
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: Will it work? Who's to say?

671
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think? You know what, if anything, just to

672
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: let her know where the line in the sand.

673
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: Is for them, it's not gonna cure her narcissism.

674
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: It won't, it won't, but it will just.

675
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: Kind of say hey, this is what we're gonna give

676
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: you and what we're not gonna give you.

677
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: Like you could be like, hey, when you ask for money,

678
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no. And then she asked for money,

679
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: it's like, guy, have money and they're like no, I

680
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: told you, yeah, no, no, no, no, no no. Every

681
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: time you ask, you're like letting her know this is

682
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen.

683
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: I agreed.

684
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. I don't even know if I

685
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: agree with my own point. But guys, let us know

686
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: in the comments flow what you think OP should do

687
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: and if Phobie's an a hole, and there we go.

688
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: Let's get into these comments. Comment number one, Oh, Jill

689
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: is toxic as heck? No, there's no cure for narcissism.

690
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: At the moment the doctors are having cracked that case.

691
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: It's a full blown personality disorder. She'll be a narcissist

692
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: until she he's six feet under. You'll have to work

693
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: out how much of that you're going to want to

694
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: put up with. If you say something, you'll likely lose

695
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: access to your sister's kids. They're going to need someone

696
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: saying around. And if you're all right living at the

697
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: edge of your sister's mess, you can be the same

698
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: person in their lives. I don't know, it's tough.

699
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 2: I don't know.

700
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 1: You want to be around the kids, but it's I don't.

701
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: Think it's necessarily your responsibility.

702
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: It's not your responsibility. And I just think I honestly.

703
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 2: Life much harder than it's like, Yeah.

704
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: I think I could be wrong. I'm like trying to

705
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: think through it, but I feel like it's better to

706
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: just tell her straight up what she's doing wrong.

707
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 3: It's like, it feels like you're trying to solve world

708
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: hunger and you're just Opie. You know what I mean,

709
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 3: it's just Opie. I don't know is that the first.

710
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: Jill is world hunger and you can't sell that alone.

711
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: Oh, and she's hungry. God, she's hungry for a lot.

712
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,959
Speaker 1: She's chomping at the bit for some wedding rings.

713
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 3: Kidding me, dude, I forgot about the house thing and

714
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 3: the thing she had to survive right, Oh my gosh.

715
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: It was like the first part of the story. Dang.

716
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: And we were like, oh, man, do we want to

717
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: read this? Do we really think it's? Like, is Op

718
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: just gonna rag on her? It's like, okay, no.

719
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: She knows she deserves it.

720
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: She deserves it, not the house thing. She deserves the

721
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: house thing. Clip that clip it. Sophia's probably not me.

722
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: Cut that part out of the clip. Be nice to me.

723
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: Thank you to editor, your choice. They're going to need

724
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: someone saying around. And if you're all right living at

725
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: the edge of your sister's mess, you can be the

726
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: same person in our lives. The commentary says and continues,

727
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be an a hole if you didn't say anything.

728
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: Alan knows what he's getting back into. Your parents are

729
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: setting their own boundaries, and there's nothing you can say

730
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: that will make Chill into a better person.

731
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: Ain't that the truth?

732
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: Right? That's just true. Regular people change themselves on their

733
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: own timetables, and unfortunately, narcissists don't change at all.

734
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 2: Ain't that that's true?

735
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: Sometimes honesty actually isn't the best policy, especially around narcissist. Well,

736
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: I've lied to narcissists in my extended family many, many times,

737
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: because the alternative is toddler tantrums and chaos, to which

738
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: Opie replies, in a way, we've always been connected and close,

739
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: but mostly we didn't like each other. And she was

740
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: high and I was low. Because I went low first

741
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: in life, I had my experiences and I humbled myself

742
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: for all those reasons. I had to try to give

743
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: her the benefit of that. I think what OPI's saying

744
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: there is like I, you know, had these you know,

745
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: the rug the substance issues and other things like Opie

746
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: had these like hardshifts that kind of like humbled her.

747
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 2: And I wants to give Jill the chances that she got.

748
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, And it seems like Jill kind of just

749
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: like just went off and it's like, Okay, I'm getting

750
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get married on all these kids. We're gonna

751
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: chill and I'm gonna kind of like trying to like

752
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: live the quote unquote high life to some degree, you know,

753
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: has a daycare, takes the money, blocks the kids of

754
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: the room until they escape into the kitchen window. Like

755
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: that's that's that's my read of it.

756
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: I think so.

757
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: I at one time lived a horribly brutal life and

758
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: did countless thing I'll never be proud of. I was

759
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: also previously married to my ex wife and was the

760
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: bad guy in that story. After trying for five years,

761
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: I was honest with her and told her I wanted

762
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: to explore my life and I wasn't happy. I was

763
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: eighteen when we got together in twenty three when we separated.

764
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: Because of this experience, I try to understand my sister's

765
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: feelings when she tells me she married too young. I

766
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: try to imagine she's being honest for you. Got to

767
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: use a lot of that imagination my friend with herself

768
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: and doing what she thinks is right. I know better now.

769
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: Constantly I'm being told how wrong I am and that

770
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: she and I are different people from my best friend

771
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: who's known my whole family since grade school. I know

772
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: she's right, and so are you. It's fear of losing

773
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: connection to the kids that runs my actions. Little girls

774
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: now twelve and literally just like me, only so much better.

775
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: I have a poll to watch over her so that

776
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: if she needs me, I'm close and I'm here to

777
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: catch her, listen to her, help her, guide her, be

778
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: a good uncle. But I can't let her go down

779
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: the path I chose. It's not an option. I chose

780
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: not to procreate. So they are my babies and I

781
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: love them deeply. I just feel fake and like I'm

782
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: lying when pointing out true feelings on topics we discuss.

783
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: But you make a good point. The alternative isn't much better.

784
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: I just want to sort out realistic boundaries. Now we

785
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: wait to see if Alan truly does take her back,

786
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: and if he does, will you'll stay? That is the

787
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: trillion dollar question, my friends. I avoid her meltdowns at

788
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: all costs. I've learned how to say things to her

789
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: to soften the blow of what I'm telling her, so

790
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: at worst she doesn't talk to me for a few days. God,

791
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: my sister prefers to delete people from her life until

792
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: she needs him again. If you're against her, you're not

793
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: supporting her, so now you mean nothing and you aren't

794
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 1: worth of her relationship, which leads to missing the little

795
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: ones she likes the assertive dramatic exit. I'm not surprised.

796
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: Sorry for me.

797
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: She likes assert of dramatic exits. Remember earlier in the story.

798
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, when she said I'm leaving you on Christmas?

799
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 3: No, no, oh that one. But I then like, was she

800
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 3: here to go through like the window of her base?

801
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's it, I guess so for I think

802
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: Alan might possibly play this out and make her suffer.

803
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: I don't think he trusts she will be single and

804
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: wait for him, And that's it.

805
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 3: Alan, Get your head out of your butt.

806
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: My dude, what are you leaving this seemingly great woman for? Jill?

807
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 3: Yeah? Come on, I know you guys were married for

808
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 3: a long time, but like, dude, you leveled up Jill.

809
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: You know what, I just had a thought, What is

810
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: your thought if Opie like distance himself, gets away from

811
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: her bs and like it was like speaks his mind,

812
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: like listen, I don't want to deal with you. I'm

813
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: going to move away from you. Yeah, the twelve year

814
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: old is probably at the point where it's like he

815
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: can sit down with her and be like, yo, your

816
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: mom's crazy. Yeah, but like I want to keep a

817
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: relationship with you.

818
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 2: I want to I want to hang. Hang.

819
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: Let's let's keep it open relationship. And then also, like

820
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: in six years she'll be a legal adult.

821
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then she can hang whenever you want.

822
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: So it's like I'm kind of like, I feel like,

823
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: even though I understand his fear of the risk of

824
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: the children being taken away, feel like, in reality it

825
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: would probably work out. Okay, my best gut guess.

826
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: There's also gonna be there. Like, even if you said something,

827
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: it seems like they're still coming to family events, So

828
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: still see them.

829
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,959
Speaker 1: That's true. She needs stuff from other people in the family. Yeah,

830
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: so she'll show up. Well, that's the end of that story.

831
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: But at the end of this episode.

832
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 2: My sister stole my baby name because she knows I

833
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: can't conceive.

834
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 3: Wow, just because it can not, it doesn't mean you

835
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 3: get steal something from me.

836
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 2: Let's start this out from the beginning. I twenty six, female,

837
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: have been trying to get pregnant for five to six

838
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: years with no luck. I've watched so many people I

839
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: know and love have a baby or multiple babies, most

840
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: of which were not planned or even wanting kids prior

841
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 2: to having them. Oh, just take those kids. It's stung

842
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 2: a little to see these people so easily have something

843
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: my husband and I have wanted for a while now.

844
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 2: But nonetheless I was always excited and supportive of them.

845
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from tired of me too.

846
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: And if you want to submit your own stories, go

847
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 2: to our lash Ooky storytime suffered it so. My sister

848
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: lived a few hours away from me for a while,

849
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 2: so we didn't really see each other often and lived

850
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: our separate lives. Still talk from time to time to

851
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: send some love and would go visit each other every

852
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: now and then. In the past year, her exiter broke

853
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: up and she needed to move home. She was heartbroken

854
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: and was just trying to mend herself back up. We

855
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 2: got close again, of course, still fighting as sisters do,

856
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: but she knew she could rely on me. I talked

857
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: to her a lot about wanting a baby and the

858
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 2: struggles it's been for me. I was diagnosed with pcause

859
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 2: polycystic ovarian syndrome and have done some fertility treatments. I

860
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 2: had to stop because it was taking a toll on

861
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 2: my mental health. She had told me numerous times that

862
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: she did not want children. Ever, I knew that part

863
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 2: of her was just blowing steam because she had a

864
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: traumatic experience with pregnancy before, and I knew that someday

865
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: she would make a great mom. However, if she didn't

866
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: want kids, then I supported that too. I think that's

867
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: a good way to look at it.

868
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

869
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 2: During this time, my sister was out having fun in

870
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: her life again and dating around. She found a guy

871
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 2: that she fell in love with quickly, and the relationship

872
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: was beyond toxic.

873
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: Why do we fall in love quickly with the toxic people? Guys?

874
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: What are we doing?

875
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 2: What are we doing?

876
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: Why are we doing?

877
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 2: Best way to sum up the relationship was high school relationships.

878
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: She found out that he cheated on her, and she

879
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: left him. In her new heartbreak, she came over to

880
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: my house invented and had mentioned that she had little

881
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: signs that she could be pregnant, but kind of giggled

882
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 2: off like she knew she wasn't. She started to see

883
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: this guy again, but kept it from the family because

884
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 2: none of us liked him to begin with, but definitely

885
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: didn't like him when we found out he cheated. Oh god,

886
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: we all knew she would go back, though, and you

887
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 2: can't tell a grown woman what to do. Sister thirty

888
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: female month and a half goes by and we hadn't

889
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 2: seen each other in a bit. She asked me how

890
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: I was, and I told her feeling pretty depressed and

891
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: all around crappy in life. Then she said, well, I

892
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: can make you not depressed and pulls out a picture

893
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: of a sonogram, which seems like it would probably make

894
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: OP be more depressed.

895
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: That was literally going to accomplish the opposite. Yeah, what

896
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: you just said. Definitely.

897
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: I was excited for her, but feeling pretty low in life,

898
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: and said, oh my god, congratulations, You're going to be

899
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: an amazing mom. But no, I was not jumping up

900
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 2: and down for joy, mainly because I was sad that

901
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: she was, in a sense stuck to a man she

902
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: had only no for eight months that had already betrayed her.

903
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: She didn't like my response and said, well, that's not

904
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: the response I was looking for, So I asked her

905
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: what response she wanted. She told me she thought I'd

906
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 2: be crying, wait, like in a good way, I'm orb

907
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 2: or did you want her to cry in like a

908
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: like a sad way.

909
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: I think like a like a happy way.

910
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: But I told her I was excited for and couldn't

911
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 2: wait to be an aunt. I didn't really know what

912
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: else to say to that. We started talking about what

913
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: gender she was hoping for and cute names. I told

914
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: her in a playful way, if you have a girl, though,

915
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 2: just don't name her Sky. Sky is not the actual

916
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 2: name that I want, But I don't want my sister

917
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 2: to see this and connect the dots.

918
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 3: It's probably River, yeah, because it's they're both blue, and

919
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 3: she wanted the something that is opposite of River. So

920
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 3: that's Sky.

921
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: Hear me out, hear me out.

922
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 3: We live in twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five. Everyone's

923
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: kids is name River or rowan water related yeah, or Lily, Lily.

924
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm on, think about it, think about it.

925
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: Hi, my cousin's name is Lily see exhibit A.

926
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: Yep, there you go.

927
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: She laughed and started saying other names she liked, and

928
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: we ended the conversation on that. Some context to the

929
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: name Ordeal. As far back as I can remember, from childhood,

930
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: I had a unique name that I love for a

931
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: baby girl and told everyone it for years, even before

932
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 2: I started to try for a baby. Anyone that I

933
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 2: talked to about children, I told them that if I

934
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: ever had a girl, this would be the name. This

935
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 2: was something that many people in my life could attest to,

936
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 2: and to sum it up, it basically was a well

937
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: known fact with anyone who I was close with. I

938
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: know I don't own the name and other people can

939
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: use it, and I know it's my own fault for

940
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: oversharing the name, but it's a name I'm passionate about

941
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: and always happened.

942
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: Trademarket make it illegal for mothers to get their baby

943
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: is his name? Yeah, yeah, I do what the children.

944
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 2: I decree this is my name for perpetuity.

945
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: Want to use Sky one billion dollars per baby jump.

946
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 2: A few months in and I'm at my mom's house

947
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: and we're talking. My mom says to me, your sister

948
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 2: the other day was talking about baby names of me,

949
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 2: and she said, if she has a girl, she wants

950
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: to make her Sky. My mouth dropped because my sister

951
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: knew dang well that this name meant something to me,

952
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: and even though I don't have children yet, if I

953
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: ever had a girl, that would be her name. My

954
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: mom then finishes it with but I told her not

955
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: to do that because that's the name you always wanted

956
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: for a girl. Props them up. W Mom, w love it.

957
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: I was pissed. I am excited to be an auntie

958
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: and I know my sister will be an amazing mother.

959
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: But as my sister, I think that was a really

960
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 2: low comment. My mom told me not to say anything

961
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 2: to her because my sister has a tendency to want

962
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 2: attention and to compete with people, especially me. M yeah, well,

963
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 2: she's stealing your name. I feel like she did want

964
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: her to cry, hope to cry in like a sad way.

965
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: I feel like she was trying to do that.

966
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what she actually wanted. Yeah, yeah, you're right.

967
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 2: I kept my distance from her and kept my mouth

968
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: shut out of respect to my mom because I know

969
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: my sister would have turned it into a battle between

970
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 2: my mom or her and myself. I was and am

971
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: way too drained in this life to deal with bad blood.

972
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 2: I also found out later that she was having a boy,

973
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: so in my head it was a little bit of

974
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: karma going her way. Oh so she can't even name

975
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: the kid this or does she do it instead? I mean, well, actually,

976
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: I mean Sky doesn't work because that can be a

977
00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: man's name.

978
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: But it was also so uh she said that was

979
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: a fake name. Guy Sklude's name.

980
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like a bunch of this. There's like multiple

981
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 2: actors names. Guy name one Uh he was Sky from

982
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 2: the name It's perfect. He plays the love interest. Okay, Uh,

983
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 2: there's also Sky from Mamma Mia also plays the love.

984
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: Interest love interests.

985
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: That's guy, that's guy. The guys I know.

986
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.

987
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: I talked to a few different people about this, and

988
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: most agreed with me that it was a jerk moved

989
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: to even say that she was going to name her

990
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: baby the name I always wanted. My best friend even said,

991
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 2: put aside the fact that you've been trying for years,

992
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: even if you weren't, this was a name you've wanted forever.

993
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: And she knew that. One of my grandmothers said, who

994
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 2: cares if she wants to name her baby that Graham

995
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: woman eighty four years old.

996
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's about to die.

997
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 2: She's just like if you watch baby that, who cares

998
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: about anything you say? Grandma just later.

999
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: Knew it isn't you wants and if she hurts, you

1000
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: can just gotta take you.

1001
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 3: Unlike you, the baby's going to be living for like

1002
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 3: one hundred more years.

1003
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: So and then my grandma proceeded to tell me that

1004
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 2: before my sister was pregnant. She was telling her that

1005
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: she wanted a baby, but that like she couldn't because

1006
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: everyone knew that I was trying. Then after finding out

1007
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 2: she was pregnant, telling her that she felt so bad

1008
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: because she was because she was and I wasn't, Grandma

1009
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: show Oh, okay, Grandma, mind your own business, your own

1010
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: freaking business. I was talking to my other Graham, Marjorie

1011
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: eighty years old, and she told me that my sister

1012
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 2: said the same things to her before and after she

1013
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 2: was pregnant. Was everyone chatting with the Grahams. Grandmam told

1014
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 2: me that Marjorie told me that it wasn't very nice

1015
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: of her to do that, But you can't pick others' behavior. Okay,

1016
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 2: so you have one good grandma. That's good one. And

1017
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 2: also you got multiple thousands, if you will, of episodes

1018
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 2: that are also good if you go to Spotify, Apple

1019
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 2: Podcasts or your favorite podcast app search up. Okay, story

1020
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: time Wooo do doo. I love my sister and I

1021
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: am very excited for her and to be an auntie.

1022
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: I have not said anything to her about this and

1023
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 2: probably never will. She got the cutest baby bump, and

1024
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 2: I hope she allows me to be there for her

1025
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 2: and my nephew when he arrives. It doesn't upset me

1026
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: when people I care about get pregnant, but of course

1027
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be envious of them, as I think most

1028
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: women would. I know this was extremely long and all

1029
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: over the place, But am I the a hole for

1030
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: being hurt by my sister saying she was going to

1031
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: use the baby name I've always wanted? And comments to

1032
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: finish this story off? Comments one, she didn't like your

1033
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 2: positive response because she wanted you to cry at her news.

1034
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: She wanted you to be upset that she was pregnant

1035
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 2: and was mad that you didn't act that way. I

1036
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: really hope you get your chance to be a mom.

1037
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 2: What helped two of my friends get pregnant was adopting

1038
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 2: a baby first. That's the way it works sometimes. Another

1039
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: friend was going through a private adoption of an onborn baby,

1040
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 2: and when she found out she was pregnant, didn't want

1041
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: to cancel the adoption for fear of another misc That's

1042
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: how our kids are about six months apart in age.

1043
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: That and hope, he says, that's kind of how I

1044
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: felt when she said that to me. I am truly

1045
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 2: excited for her and myself because I'm getting to officially

1046
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 2: be an auntie, just wasn't sure exactly how to take it.

1047
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: I go out of my way to make sure there

1048
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 2: is no confrontation between me and my sister, and I

1049
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: try to just play it off the best way that

1050
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: I could while being supportive of her. My husband and

1051
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: I have talked a lot about this and have agreed

1052
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 2: that if we're not able to naturally conceive, then one

1053
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: day we will be parents to a beautiful child and

1054
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 2: give them all that we want. Comment two says, not

1055
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: the able, but think your sister will need you soon.

1056
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: A relationship isn't the best and I can't see it

1057
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: surviving a child. Watch out for her trying to get

1058
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 2: you babysitting all the time. I imagine she will take advantage.

1059
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 2: Good luck on your journey. I hope you get the

1060
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: child you deserve too, and Hope says thank you for this.

1061
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 2: I appreciate your kind words. I will definitely be there

1062
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: for her, but also create healthy boundaries. I think that's smart.

1063
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: We love health and boundaries.

1064
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 2: I have noticed her boyfri Form being a little better

1065
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 2: this time around than before they broke up, so I

1066
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 2: hope he continues to do right by both her and

1067
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 2: my nephew, and that, my friends, is the end of

1068
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 2: this story and this episode. Whoa and the stream. Wow,

1069
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: do you have any final thoughts?

1070
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: You know? I think Ope, keep that good head on

1071
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: your shoulders and just keep moving through life and focus

1072
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: on the positives of being an auntie, maybe looking into

1073
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: adoption yourself if that feels good, you know, And don't

1074
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: don't listen to the haters, specifically your grandma, your freaking grandma.

1075
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: Grandma can yeah, she probably will soon. She ain't got

1076
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: much longer anyways, but yeah, but yeah.

1077
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: Just tell your sister how it is.

1078
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: Man, that's right. This is an episode from Deep within

1079
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: the Archives. Time for okop ree lash. I refuse to

1080
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: attend my stepdaughter's wedding because I need to care for

1081
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: my parent. I don't give a fuck. Am I the

1082
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: hay hole? My god, John, you really really put some

1083
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: emphasis on that. You know, you know, we're we're we're

1084
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: just warming up for all you guys listening. And I

1085
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I saw this title, and

1086
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna really lean into this to

1087
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 1: just I need to kick into into my final key

1088
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 1: for drive, you know, what I mean a little scared. Honestly,

1089
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: you should be going Fast and fury. You should be

1090
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 1: fucking terrified. You skip through Fast and Furious one and

1091
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: six and straight to seven. I went straight to forty

1092
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: eight where they're next. Dude, what's fast and Fast and

1093
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: Furious seven is just like launching from helicopters into planes

1094
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: and like throwing missiles with cars? What's forty five gonna be?

1095
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: They're gonna figure it out. It'll literally be. It'll literally

1096
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: be Vin Diesel's like Tombstone, just like no, they're gonna

1097
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: be like he's going to actually pass away of old age.

1098
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: Oh he's gone, and then he's gonna come back as

1099
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: a fucking robot, and like his likeness is literally going

1100
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: to be Transformers, and then there's gonna be a Transformers

1101
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: Furious forty eight. That crossover, that ip is actually brilliant

1102
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: because then you take their likeness and they just they

1103
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: live on as Transformers the cars. Yo. Hey, hey, we're

1104
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: here sitting in this room with a freaking gold mine.

1105
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: We really are one more thing in this side. Tangent

1106
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: will be over, I promise listeners. But my boy who

1107
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: works at NBC Universal randomly got tickets on Sunday, so

1108
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: we got to like literally Sunday morning. He's like, hey,

1109
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: do you want to go to Universal because there's a

1110
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: new Super Mario World. So we got to go see it.

1111
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 1: My friend worked on that, Oh really, the VR. Yeah,

1112
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: this guy Ben his VR company. I think I know

1113
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 1: exactly what he worked on the Mario Kark Yes, probably,

1114
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 1: but uh so we went there and as per usual,

1115
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 1: like the lines are so long, we literally ended up

1116
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: for all like basically a whole day. We went on

1117
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: like three rides. Actually the most the most fire thing

1118
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: was the studio tour. And this tour they like put

1119
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: the tour bus in like a a thing that like

1120
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: moves it. It's almost like Imax, but it moves. And

1121
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: there was a fast and furious one where Vin Diesel

1122
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: literally jumps out of his car grabs onto a helicopter

1123
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: and it's like like don't worry, guys, like we're gonna

1124
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: get through this. Like as if he could manhandle a

1125
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: fucking helicopter, He's been Diesel, he can manhandle anything. I guess,

1126
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: I guess he nuts. I guess he could. But you

1127
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: know what it says, I'm about to manhandle this story Okay,

1128
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: all over your freaking face, splash it, segueing guys. Okay,

1129
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: So I'm the owner of a wonderful rescued macaw macaw.

1130
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: She is a wonderful bird, but has a lot of

1131
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: issues due to her abusive former home, macaw MacCall. I've

1132
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 1: had her for three years and since then haven't taken

1133
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: any vacations or trips as it would be too disruptive

1134
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: for my bird. Of course, Man, you got a bird

1135
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: that literally you got a bird that could fly that

1136
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: made you not be able to fly. You know your

1137
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: your wing ready right now? Yeah? You clipped your wings

1138
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: with this clipped wing bird. I think I think it's

1139
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: a bit too much. But you know what, the story's

1140
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: just beginning. Well, we'll see the full situation. I eat

1141
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 1: chicken all the time. Oh I'm just gonna say that, dude,

1142
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: I killed the chicken. I killed hands. Did you kill chicken? Yeah?

1143
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: Chicken killing? Brothers over here, boom, you kill your chicken?

1144
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: How did you kill your chicken? I was part of

1145
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: this kind of like challenge thing, so basically, so we

1146
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: had to in short, grab the chicken. My partner was

1147
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: the one that held it, and its head was in

1148
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: this like little like rope and then I like pulled

1149
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,479
Speaker 1: the feathers back and just slit the throat super quick.

1150
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: Except I did not do that at all, and it

1151
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: was slowly dying, a very painful death because of my

1152
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: horrendous I was like eighteen years old. It's like I

1153
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: didn't do it right, so I had to do it

1154
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: a thousand times before it finally died. It's supposed to

1155
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: instantly die. That's like the method to ensure like a

1156
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: that's one of like quick, safe, humane deaths. With me,

1157
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: it was a brutal murder. You're a war criminal. I

1158
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: am a criminal. Yeah, experience. I feel like I'll leave

1159
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: it till after this. Okay, Yeah, that's a good. But

1160
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: I have I literally did a stand up routine with

1161
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: this chicken story. Wow, okay, interesting ages ago interesting an

1162
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: actual stand up routine. Yeah yeah, oh wow. Okay, now

1163
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: I'm very here. It's not gonna be good because I

1164
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: remember it, but that's okay. I'll do my best. Well,

1165
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: it'll be a recollection, yeah, yeah, reminiscing. But back to

1166
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: ops bird that may or may not need to be murdered.

1167
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: My Birdie distrusts everyone and is very uh reliant on

1168
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: her routine. I love her deeply and I'm happy to

1169
00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 1: make sacrifices for her. That is obvious. It's pretty clear.

1170
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: Vacations for three years. Yeah, yeah, they are permanent toddlers

1171
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: and very intelligent birds. I met my husband by the

1172
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: time my kids were older. My stepdaughter was sixteen at

1173
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 1: the time we married, when she moved away from college. Nevertheless,

1174
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: I thought we'd managed to have a decent relationship until now.

1175
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: My stepdaughter is getting married in March, and naturally there's

1176
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: a lot of preparation involved. They're wanting a huge, traditional

1177
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: wedding and she is stressed out of her mind. They

1178
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: live out of state, and she invited me recently to

1179
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: come visit her for a week to help with the

1180
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: wedding plans and to spend time with their two year old. Okay,

1181
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: it makes sense, I declined, what, and she and tell

1182
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: me it's the fucking bird, Sam. She insisted to know why. Okay,

1183
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: acting very hurt, and I explained, it's the parrot. Well,

1184
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: Opie is literally choosing a bird over her grandson or

1185
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: daughter or grandchild, stepdaughter, grand step human, grand step person. Yeah,

1186
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: it all went downhill from there. Sam. It's about to

1187
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: get worse as it always does. Oh no, She caused

1188
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: a massive fuss with her dad, saying she never got

1189
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: a mother figure and I never accepted her as my

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00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: full blood daughter. And this is the ultimate snub over

1191
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: a silly animal. Excuse me, this is my silly parents.

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00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: This is a macaw. Actually a very intelligent birds, probably

1193
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: more intelligent than your two year old. Actually, she said, yeah, toddler,

1194
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: like this is my toddler. You want me to abandon myddler? Yeah,

1195
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: it's just because I adopted my toddler doesn't make it

1196
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: any different seriously than your toatherer. God, this is my

1197
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: feather baby. Forget for her babies. We're a whole way.

1198
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: I love feather babies. Baby gotta love it. She also

1199
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: said I'm cold and emotionless and I feel really hurt.

1200
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 1: And I can tell that my husband agrees with her,

1201
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: even though he's refusing to take sides. But I don't

1202
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: see why I should be expected to take holiday time

1203
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: off work to babysit and quote unquote bond all of

1204
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: a sudden. And I don't see how I'm a monster

1205
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: for this? Am I the a hole? Yes? Yes, yes, bro?

1206
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Because also it's like, so I

1207
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: feel like it's now much more transparent where it's like

1208
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: you refuse to spend time with your stepdaughter's child because

1209
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: you don't want to lose like vacation days. Yeah, it's

1210
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: like it's like all all of this stuff right, and

1211
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: you're just using the parrot as a poor cop out.

1212
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: But Sam, there's an update, isn't there? Yes, there is

1213
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,439
Speaker 1: an update for context of her relationship. We don't usually talk,

1214
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: and she hasn't visited home in four years. This is

1215
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: the parrot or the we don't usually talk. We don't

1216
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: usually talk. You know, he's just like exactly, he keeps

1217
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: he always diverts to crackers. Like I'm like, please focus

1218
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: on when I'm trying to commun emotions. It's really a communicator,

1219
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We're in therapy. I have

1220
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: a con. I have a cockatoo in the neighborhood, and

1221
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: it always whistles on me when I when I run by,

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01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: and I'll say, pretty bird, I'll go over and I'll

1223
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: i'll it too. And then if you dance, it dances too.

1224
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: It's awesome. That's incredible. I imagine this one is with

1225
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: a bird. Yeah. See see you know, it's uh. You

1226
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: could have brought the bird and maybe she could have

1227
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: spread her wings and danced on the wedding dance floor.

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01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: That would have been beautiful. Come on, missed opportunity exactly. I'm

1229
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: beginning to think it was a mistake posting this, mostly

1230
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: because this is real and nuanced situation and Reddit is

1231
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: no place for nuance, and maybe personal relationship shouldn't be

1232
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: judged in the A whole context in the first place.

1233
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: But also doesn't like the answer she heard. Yeah, I

1234
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: don't even know why I submitted to this in the

1235
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: first place. All of these thousands of Internet people are wrong.

1236
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: But also I should be more understanding and a bigger person,

1237
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: regardless of who is or isn't the A whole. Life

1238
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: is short to be but hurt and offended. So I

1239
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: called my stepdaughter and told her that I understand this

1240
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: is a big moment in her life and she wants

1241
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: someone there to help and support her, and that I'm

1242
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: willing to help her in any way I can to

1243
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: plan the wedding via zoom and virtually we talked a bit,

1244
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: and I asked her why she hadn't accepted me reaching

1245
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: out in the past and She apologized and said that

1246
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: she didn't want to accept someone as a stand in

1247
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: a quote unquote fake replacement for her bio mom, but

1248
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: now she regrets that in once a closer relationship, especially

1249
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: seeing how close her significant other is with his mom.

1250
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: We ended the conversation positively and I'm hoping things can

1251
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: improve forward. I told her I'm a crazy bird lady,

1252
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: true that is factual, and asked her if she still

1253
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: wants a relationship knowing that, and she said that after

1254
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: the wedding, she's willing to travel to visit us if

1255
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: we have room, which we do. I'll leave this post up,

1256
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: but I'm happy either way, and I'm glad the feedback

1257
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: here motivated me to make the call. Did it by zoom?

1258
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: Come on and guess what they they said? I Reddit

1259
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: what not the ahle, what says not the a whole?

1260
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 2: Why?

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01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Before you read like

1262
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: do you agree with me? Like this is your real

1263
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: life stepdaughter, the daughter of the man you've married, and

1264
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: you are choosing a parrot over a macaw, excuse me

1265
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: over your relationship with her? And now and she has

1266
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: a child now who like you, like she needs support,

1267
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: like a young mother needs support from their family. Yeah,

1268
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: and and it sounds like, you know, from from what

1269
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: OPI was saying earlier, like oh, she didn't want to

1270
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: have this like fake relationship. It's like I get the

1271
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: sense that it would just positively benefit her to have

1272
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: like a human, positive maternal mother figure actively engaged in

1273
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: her life. Yeah. I completely agree, But I'm curious what

1274
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 1: like the reddit comments say, like, how is it not

1275
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: ad one? Like, what's the top comment? I'm a bird

1276
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: person too, and I completely agree with you. Yeah, someone's

1277
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: asking for more info about why OPI can't attend the

1278
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: out of state wedding. Okay, so yeah, this is actually

1279
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: great a crazy threat. So they asked why she could

1280
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: they op couldn't attend, right, I'm planning on making it

1281
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: a two day trip. I have. I have that much

1282
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: planned out. The biggest issue issue is her plucking problem.

1283
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: She's prone to I think I'm not saying mutilating. I

1284
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: think it's where the feathers fall out, where she plucks

1285
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: her feathers out. Yeah, she's mutilating herself when she's stressed.

1286
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: And in two days she won't have and in two

1287
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: days she won't have done as much damage, if any,

1288
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: But in a week of absence, I'm sure she'd start

1289
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: up again. I've only just gotten her to stop. Someone commented, Yeah,

1290
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,439
Speaker 1: I think that makes you extremely not the a hole,

1291
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: and regardless of your previous relationship, it isn't My bird

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Speaker 1: baby will be kind of sad. I'm not there. It's

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01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: fun fact animals have mental health issues too. But I'm like,

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01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: why can't there be more? Like this is a very

1295
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: important this is a little once in a lifetime thing

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01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: for your stepdaughter. So my question is like, Okay, we

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01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: can still take the mental health issue seriously of the pet.

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01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a bad thing, but it's like,

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Speaker 1: get a professional to help and weigh in or something like,

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01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: do something to be able to attend this thing. It's like, also,

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01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: it's like, this is a bird, not an elephant. Put

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01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: in your fucking car on the way, Yeah, on this

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01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: road trip out of state. There we go, right, come

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01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: on that too, Like, there's there's many things you can

1305
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: do too, And will it not be the literal, one

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01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: hundred percent perfect scenario for the bird? Yes, But ultimately,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I agree with you, I agree

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01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: with you. I'm I'm talking in the context of people like,

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01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: well what about the bird. Okay, even still there's ways

1310
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: to like do stuff for the bird that is crazy.

1311
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: I feel like Internet people have way more empathy for

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01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: animals than they do humans. Yeah. When if you remember,

1313
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: like way back in the day, they were like testing

1314
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: on sharks to see if they can find the COVID vaccine,

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01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, you're like, fuck ki every

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01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: single shark, Like I'm the same with my own We

1317
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: need to survive. Although I will admit watching watching Avatar,

1318
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, maybe I'm maybe I'm a bit

1319
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,919
Speaker 1: fucked up because it's like, we created COVID, then we're

1320
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: gonna go and kill all animals to save ourselves. Yeah,

1321
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: We're We're getting pretty damn philosophical here, you know what

1322
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: I mean? Uh, but you know sometimes that's that's what

1323
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: they do. Uh, that's what we do. You know what

1324
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: else we should do? John, Oh my god, we should

1325
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: get philosophical on our slash okop show, where if you

1326
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: send in your stories, we're gonna read him off the subreddit.

1327
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: So send him in join our slash Okop show and

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01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: we look forward to hearing your stories. Am I the

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01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: a hole for ending my sister's pregnancy and possibly her marriage.

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01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yes, I don't know what one one might think,

1331
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: but you know, don't don't judge a title by its cover.

1332
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta take it. We got a sleuth,

1333
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,919
Speaker 1: We got a slog. We got a sleuth more than

1334
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: Adam trying to find a way to recover his career.

1335
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: We go. I male thirty two, have two older brothers,

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01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: male thirty eight and male forty, and his sister, female

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01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: thirty four. No, the age differences, so him and his

1338
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: sister are younger. The two brothers are, you know, quite

1339
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 1: a few years old. Yeah cool. Our family was relatively

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01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 1: honest when my brothers grew up, so they were cared

1341
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: for a lot by my parents' families, who were very conservative.

1342
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: By the time that me and my sister were born,

1343
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: our dad's career was going great and we were well off.

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01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: Me and my sister have master's degrees, while our brothers

1345
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,439
Speaker 1: didn't go to college despite the funds and chances, which

1346
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: is like subtle drag. Yeah, subtle drag, Like a not

1347
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: so subtle subtle drag there on. The brothers little elitists

1348
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: are a bunch of birds, bunch of bozos. My mom

1349
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: had been trying to set up my sister with a

1350
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: churchgoers kid, you know, like to get married and whatnot.

1351
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 1: This did not progress until around the time that my

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01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 1: dad died and my sister came back and helped with

1353
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: a funeral. My brother's families are both in our hometown

1354
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: as well. I worked in Tech and China at that time,

1355
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: and I now live in SF And since the funeral,

1356
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: I've been mostly low contact with everyone in my family

1357
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 1: except my sister. Honestly, I was very close with my

1358
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: dad and there was obvious favoritism towards me, which the

1359
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: others did not like, which I feel like Opie is

1360
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: just talking themselves up right. I'm sure my da brothers

1361
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:09,479
Speaker 1: were more educated. The dad liked desbore like making money

1362
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 1: in China and SFI. That's such as a total bru moment.

1363
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: But you know what's better than saying bruh buy and

1364
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: bra buyer merch That's right. So at this point, my

1365
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: mom and oldest brother now technically live in the family house.

1366
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 1: My sister somehow ended up leaving her career and moving

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01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 1: back to the hometown. She then married the man that

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01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 1: my mom set her up with in twenty nineteen, the

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01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: churchgoers kid. I honestly was in shock at the wedding.

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01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 1: I really didn't ever see my sister living on a

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01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: farm and becoming a stay at home mom. I knew

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01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: for a fact my mom and brothers were a huge

1373
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: part of this because there was a lot of she's

1374
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: back home posts on their social media, and later I

1375
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,799
Speaker 1: also found out that my sister had pretty much given

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01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: all of her savings to the husband. Really, so here's this, like,

1377
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, master's degree, you know, a woman woman, you know,

1378
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: crushing it, and then she becomes a farmer's wife and

1379
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: gives a husband all of her money. Girl, keep your money, heep,

1380
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: keep your money. Get that preyed up now. Later in

1381
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,719
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, my sister straight out of the blue called

1382
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: me about just chatting, and of course I loved this.

1383
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,600
Speaker 1: Early in twenty twenty one, my mom told me that

1384
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 1: my sister was pregnant. I immediately asked my sister about

1385
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: this and she pretty much broke down. In short, the

1386
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: husband has been very abusive, she's broke, and my family

1387
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 1: and her in laws haven't helped. Wow. Can you imagine, like,

1388
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: oh my god, terrible situation and her family pressured her

1389
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: into it, and now they're not helping her. She's they

1390
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 1: pressured her into the marriage. Yeah, Like who's who's your kid?

1391
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: The farmer or your freaking kid? Yeah, she's My oldest

1392
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 1: brother yelled at her about how his wife went through

1393
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: the same thing, and my sister should stop thinking she's

1394
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 1: special toxic. Wait, his wife went to the same thing

1395
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: as as big Like, yeah, like being abused? Did you

1396
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: just admit to abusing your wife? Dude doing seriously? Got

1397
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:01,560
Speaker 1: go back to school, get an education, and that being

1398
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 1: the first time she called me. He had kicked her

1399
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: out of the home for complaining about their finances and

1400
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: that this was fairly common. This is where I might

1401
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 1: be the a hole. I basically yelled at her too.

1402
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: I told her that she had a career which she

1403
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: can go back to, and I can help her move

1404
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: back to NYC where she worked and studied before. It's

1405
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 1: nice to the brother, but the thing is, he's like

1406
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: yelling at her. He's like, you have a career, Like

1407
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: why don't you go back to New York? What are

1408
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: you doing? Like why are you staying here? I guess

1409
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: it could have been a handle better, but the sentiment

1410
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 1: is nice. Like, I'm going to help you build your

1411
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,839
Speaker 1: life back to here. Yeah. Yeah, the sentiment was nice,

1412
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: and he finished off by saying that the pregnancy wasn't

1413
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,839
Speaker 1: the end of it and that there are other options.

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01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: The next day, she asked me for five thousand dollars,

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01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: which I sent to her without asking anything. I didn't

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01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 1: hear much after that and didn't intrude because it was

1417
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 1: just a total mind f to me. A month later,

1418
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: my sister told me that she had gotten a new

1419
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: job at NYC and filed for divorce. Wow, okay, God,

1420
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 1: so we go. You know, she she's moving back in

1421
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:06,799
Speaker 1: a good direction. And also the pregnancy is no longer

1422
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: on the table. Now. My family has been blowing up

1423
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: on social media, calling me in all sorts of bs.

1424
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: I've in general clapped back at them, and it looks

1425
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 1: like the home might be on the market soon. My

1426
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 1: sister needed to switch apartments and got a restraining order

1427
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: against her ex as well. Oh things are not so

1428
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 1: great right now, zam, but I'm happy that my sister

1429
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 1: is better. So the question is am I the a hole?

1430
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 1: I mean, you could have maybe been a little bit nicer,

1431
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 1: but I'd say overall, you're trying to help your sisters.

1432
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 1: So I'd say not the a hole, and I would

1433
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 1: actually disagree a little bit. I think that the fact, like, dude,

1434
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 1: she's she's been beaten by this guy, beat her, stole

1435
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 1: her money. You know, she has a baby with the guy,

1436
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 1: which she doesn't want, you know, anything to do with,

1437
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: and now another person is yelling at her, Like I

1438
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,799
Speaker 1: could just see even though it's like the right message,

1439
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 1: like yeah, like the tough love is maybe not what

1440
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: this person needs right now. Honestly, thout empathy is cruelty, yeah,

1441
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 1: and I feel like the brother might be being a

1442
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 1: little cruel Yeah, but at least like the advice he

1443
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: gave her is what she followed, which seems to like

1444
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 1: she'll get her own money back, she'll you know, hopefully

1445
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 1: rebuild her life. Jeez,