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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now

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Speaker 2: with Governor Kim Reynolds of Iowa. Governor, appreciate you being here.

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Speaker 3: Oh, hi back, It's great to be with you. Thanks

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Speaker 3: for the opportunity. Thanks for the voice of reason.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate that I do what I can. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Clay and I do our best. Thank you. I wanted to,

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Speaker 2: but we want to get to Iowa the Caucuses, all

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Speaker 2: that and your endorsement in a second. But I think

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Speaker 2: the border is among the most important issues in the

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Speaker 2: country right now, and anyone listens to the show knows

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Speaker 2: that this has been a something that I've been deeply

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Speaker 2: involved in covering and spending time down there now for

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Speaker 2: many years. You have a plan that I wanted you

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Speaker 2: to discuss with everyone for what can be done at

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Speaker 2: the border, given that it's the most wide open it's

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Speaker 2: ever been. You've got at least six seven million have

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Speaker 2: come in under Biden. What can be done about this

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Speaker 2: and how would the military play a role?

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I mean, I think it's also

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Speaker 3: Ronda Fantasis planet. It's just another example of how we

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Speaker 3: align on policies and what needs to be done to

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Speaker 3: not only secure our nations, to make sure that we're

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Speaker 3: taking our nation security into account, but to stop the

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Speaker 3: inflow of human traffic and most importantly drugs that we're

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Speaker 3: seeing pouring over the border. So first of all, you

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Speaker 3: reinstall the remain in Mexico policy, you actually build the wall.

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Speaker 3: He's got a plan in place to pay for it,

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Speaker 3: so he actually will pay Mexico pay for the wall

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Speaker 3: through the remittments taxes. In addition to that, get the

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Speaker 3: military down on the border, and identify the cartel for

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Speaker 3: what they are, a terrorist. You know, we are seeing

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Speaker 3: the impact in Iowa. Every single state is a border state.

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Speaker 3: We have two major interstates that run through Iowa, Interstate

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Speaker 3: thirty five in Interstate eighty and it is absolutely a

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Speaker 4: And we are.

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Speaker 3: Seeing exponentially the number of seizures increase. We've seen a

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Speaker 3: five hundred percent increase in at one hundred percent increase

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Speaker 3: in meths. We've seen a thirty five percent increase in

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Speaker 3: drug related deaths. And this is what every single state

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Speaker 3: but we're seeing it infiltrate our rural areas as well,

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Speaker 3: And so you have to stop the flow. You have

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Speaker 3: to put back in place the policies that worked. You

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Speaker 3: have to figure out a way to get the illegals back.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we have seen over I think it's over

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Speaker 3: six million illegals that have invaded our homeland. The number

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Speaker 3: of known terrorists that have crossed the border is concerning,

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Speaker 3: especially when you see what's happened in Israel and around

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Speaker 3: the world, and then just take into account the one

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Speaker 3: point six million gutaways just in twenty twenty three. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's unconscionable. It is ridiculous. As a state, I mean,

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Speaker 3: Texas has been ground zero for the last two and

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Speaker 3: a half years. They have allocated nine billion dollars of

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Speaker 3: what this president and this administration and should do. It's

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Speaker 3: a dereliction of duties. It's unconscionable. It's an assault on

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Speaker 3: our constitution and the American people, and it's ridiculous that

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Speaker 3: this has fallen to the States. When Governor Abbott sent

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Speaker 3: out a request. I was so proud of the number

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Speaker 3: of Republican governors that stood up. We not only sent

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Speaker 3: This is the second time we've sent law enforcement down now.

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Speaker 3: I was proud to say that I didn't use any

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Speaker 3: After all, it is the federal government and this president's

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Speaker 3: And so I use those dollars to get our people

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Speaker 3: to several other dates. So as a governor, we have

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Speaker 3: a responsibility to protect the health and safety of the

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Speaker 3: it makes that really really difficult. So I appreciate the

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Speaker 3: And what gives me great confidence about that plan is

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Speaker 3: on day one, he will do exactly what he said

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Speaker 3: he's going to do and start implementing those similar policies

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Speaker 3: that will start to protect this country and American citizens

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Speaker 3: and it's just that's like step one and getting this

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Speaker 2: So we're speaking of Governor Kim Renolds yep, yep. Governor

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Speaker 2: Kim Reynolds of Iowa. And since you're kind of leading

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Speaker 2: in already to my next question for you, which is

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Speaker 2: you are given that you're a governor with very strong

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Speaker 2: numbers in your home state of Iowa, and Iowa was

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Speaker 2: the first in the nation. Right, so we're going to

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Speaker 2: have the caucus what middle of January, I believe, right,

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Speaker 2: January fifteenth, yep, yep, January fifteenth.

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Speaker 4: And.

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Speaker 2: Eyes the nation are going to be on Iowa obviously,

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Speaker 2: as they are when this happens every four years. You

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Speaker 2: have endoored dis Governor Ron de Santis. Governor Ron de Santis,

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Speaker 2: I'm a Floridian. I think he's been a phenomenal governor

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Speaker 2: the national polls considerably to Donald Trump. Why did you

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Speaker 2: go with DeSantis? Because you have a lot of Trump

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Speaker 2: listeners and a lot of DeSantis listeners right now, So

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Speaker 2: make the cases you would for why you thought he

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Speaker 2: was the right choice. Well, for a.

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Speaker 3: Whole host of reasons, and most importantly, I would encourage

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Speaker 3: everybody just to look at his records. So we'll start there.

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Speaker 3: But we are the first the nation caucus. I want

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Speaker 3: to give you a little background. I felt like it

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Speaker 3: was my responsibility to welcome all the candidates to the

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Speaker 3: for them to share their vision and message about why

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Speaker 3: And it was important that we did that. For seven months,

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Speaker 3: they have chriss crossed the state. They've really pitched their vision.

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Speaker 3: I hosted almost all of them at the Iowa State Fair.

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Speaker 3: We did the fairs by chat again, a lot of

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Speaker 3: one on one. I've had opportunity to tradition in the

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Speaker 3: that's why I don't believe the national folds. I talk

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Speaker 3: and people are showing up at all of the events.

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Speaker 3: They're listening, they're asking good questions. We take this very seriously,

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Speaker 3: narrow and so we did that for seven months. But

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Speaker 3: as I have continued to see the decline of this country,

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Speaker 3: bad place. The country's in trouble. As I see what's

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Speaker 3: has shown on the world stage, it's emboldened our enemies.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I am a governor, but first and foremost,

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Speaker 3: I'm the mom, and I'm a grandma, and I'm an

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Speaker 3: American and I just could not sit on the sidelines

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Speaker 3: any longer. There's too much at stake. We need somebody

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Speaker 3: that can win. We don't get or redo. We need

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Speaker 3: somebody that not only has the skill, but has the

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Speaker 3: every single day. I need somebody that's disciplined and focused

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Speaker 3: the past. And we need somebody that can, on day one,

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Speaker 3: when I started looking at the records and I started

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Speaker 3: looking at how it aligned with what we've done here

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Speaker 3: it is to do things as a governor, to make

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Speaker 3: to be a leader, and you've got to be able

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Speaker 3: to execute. And Ron has executed on one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: And you think he can win in Iowa, and then

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Speaker 2: you think he can win nationally.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I think he could win in Iowa. Wouldn't get

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Speaker 2: The poll.

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Speaker 3: First of all, nobody should be paying attention to the

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Speaker 3: I'm seeing it. I've had so many people come up

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Speaker 3: really important. He's the only one that's put in the

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Speaker 3: But then you've got to get people there on January

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Speaker 3: potentially winter night on you know, January fifteenth. You got

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Speaker 3: If you look at the last Iowa poll that was released,

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Speaker 3: the same percentage of likely Republican cock scorers are considering

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Speaker 3: both Trump and Ron DeSantis. It was at sixty seven percent,

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Speaker 3: So he's the second choice for most of them. You know,

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Speaker 3: I just he definitely there is a path. He's got

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Speaker 3: We need somebody that can win. This guy has won.

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Speaker 3: We both ran in twenty eighteen, barely made across the

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Speaker 3: finish line. Horrible year for Republicans. I think he won

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Speaker 3: by one percent on one, by about two. He came

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Speaker 3: back in twenty twenty two, he won by twenty. I

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Speaker 3: He brought in demographics that Republicans have not been winning

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Speaker 3: I want somebody that can get sixty two percent of

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Speaker 4: great job in Florida. He's out there trying to drum

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Speaker 4: up support. I appreciate it very much that she didn't

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Speaker 4: say anything about Trump.

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Speaker 3: It was very nice.

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Speaker 2: Well, there we go. Thank you, Jamie. I keep trying

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Speaker 2: to tell people this that it's fine. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: calling in from Texas. It's fine to of course have

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Speaker 2: your preference in the primary, whoever it may be, and

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Speaker 2: it is also fine to think that there are moremultiple

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Speaker 2: really good Republicans in the race. Now. You might have

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Speaker 2: your favorite, whether it's Trump or DeSantis, or Haley or

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Speaker 2: Ramaswamy or you know, the Doug Bergham squad. If you're

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Speaker 2: still out there, I don't know, but you might have

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Speaker 2: your favorite. But you can say, for example, I really

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Speaker 2: want to vote for Trump, but I really like what

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Speaker 2: Governed DeSantis has done and I think he has a

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Speaker 2: bright future in the party. Or you could say I

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Speaker 2: think that Trump was amazing for the country, but I

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Speaker 2: think that this time around DeSantis is the guy. And

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Speaker 2: you could say the same variations of this for Haley

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Speaker 2: or Ramaswami or whomever.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 2: Okay, right, I know, right now it may not feel

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Speaker 2: that way because people will jump on you from any

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Speaker 2: side if you say something. But it is in fact

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Speaker 2: fine to think that there can be multiple Republican elected

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Speaker 2: officials or leaders candidates who are really smart, worthwhile, good

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Speaker 2: patriots who want to do their best for the country.

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Speaker 2: You know, you don't have to pick one and hate

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Speaker 2: all the others. I'm just saying that's something worth remembering.

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Speaker 2: Bob in Florida, Bob, you disagree with Governor Reynolds. What's up?

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Speaker 5: Well? Yeah, I live in Florida, and I think Ron

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Speaker 5: DeSantis has done a great job the time he's been here.

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Speaker 5: But I feel that it's been like I designed. Trump

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Speaker 5: helped him get elected by endorsing him, you know, putting

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Speaker 5: his name with him, and I believe that if he

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Speaker 5: would have not run right now and ran in twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty eight, he would be the next president. Donald Trump

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Speaker 5: is the one and only president in my lifetime that

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Speaker 5: has stood by and done everything he's promised, and now

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Speaker 5: he's promising to come back and clean house that needs

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Speaker 5: to be done.

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Speaker 2: I just you're on on Trump. You think you think

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Speaker 2: that Ron should have waited his turn? Anything else?

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Speaker 5: I think he should have waited his turn.

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Speaker 2: Yes, all right, thanks so much, Bob, Thanks for calling in.

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Speaker 2: And Bob's a Floridy and who thinks that Governor Santis

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Speaker 2: has done a really good job here in Florida. I

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Speaker 2: mean I can speak to that too. I think Governor

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Speaker 2: Santas has been an excellent governor. But there are plenty

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Speaker 2: of folks out there, obviously, I mean the polling suggest this.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people, a majority, perhaps even off the

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Speaker 2: entire Republican Party, think that Trump is still the guy

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Speaker 2: I said possibly, by the way, can I not? You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm just we're trying to analyze and today it's just

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Speaker 2: me because Clay's out here, is what I say. The

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Speaker 2: Royal We we're trying to analyze this primary as it's happening,

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Speaker 2: and trying to be fair to the arguments made for

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Speaker 2: and for and against the various candidates. We've struck with

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Speaker 2: it here. We told you Rush never ever ever endorsed

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Speaker 2: in thirty plus years on the radio, and we have

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Speaker 2: not endorsed anybody here either. Still to this day, we

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Speaker 2: have not in a Republican primary. Obviously, talking about Republican primaries,

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Speaker 2: James in California, you also want to weigh in after

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Speaker 2: the governor of Iowa call them. What's up, James, Hey boy,

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Speaker 2: how you doing?

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Speaker 4: Brothers?

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Speaker 2: I'm good man, thank you for calling in.

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Speaker 5: We love you.

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Speaker 7: I'm in the North state of California. You got a

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Speaker 7: lot of good people up here. The state of Jefferson.

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Speaker 7: We love you guys, and thanks for your lace. I

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Speaker 7: just had a quick comment. Bombs in Texas kind of

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Speaker 7: beat me to the punch. But we definitely don't need

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Speaker 7: to gamble right now. We get a clue. Wait this turn,

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Speaker 7: Trump will get us back on and and or someone

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Speaker 7: like him like the Santas and and we just need

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Speaker 7: to get get back on a roll and back to back.

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Speaker 7: And you know, again, it's not a gamble. We know

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Speaker 7: what we give with Trump, and he will he will

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Speaker 7: do the job. He's done it once, he'll do it again.

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Speaker 2: Thanks very much for calling in, James, appreciate you up

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Speaker 2: there in California. You know, it's funny we have so

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Speaker 2: many listeners and we often think of, like you know,

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Speaker 2: talk radio and a lot of the redder states out

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Speaker 2: there as our talk radio homeland. But you've got a

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Speaker 2: lot of a lot of New Yorkers and a lot

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Speaker 2: of Californians who well they're like me. They are people

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Speaker 2: who are conservative h and yet they live in these

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Speaker 2: blue states. So I appreciate you listening, appreciate you calling in.

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Speaker 2: We'll come back here and well are there are a

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Speaker 2: few things.

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Speaker 5: One is.

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Speaker 2: Joe Manchin, Joe Manchin talking about how he's thinking about running.

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Speaker 2: What do these third, fourth, fifth, sixth, who knows how

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Speaker 2: many party candidates? What do they do to this whole mess?

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Speaker 2: And then third hour, I want to bring it back

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Speaker 2: around here and talk about this still ongoing campaign on TikTok.

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Speaker 2: It seems to say that maybe the global Jihad has

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Speaker 2: some good ideas and some justification, whether it's Hamas or

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Speaker 2: al Qaida. We'll return to that because there's also some

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Speaker 2: ad campaigns that are floating around to address anti Semitism,

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Speaker 2: and I say, well, hold on a second, why are

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Speaker 2: that's not what we're seeing in a lot of these protests. Well,

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Speaker 2: you'll see what I mean. That'll be in the third hour.

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Speaker 2: you know what, I think I'll go along with this. Well,

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Speaker 2: he's not running to win reelection in West Virginia Joe

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Speaker 2: Mansion Center from West Virginia, but he might be running

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Speaker 2: for president of the United States. This is cut thirteen play.

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Speaker 8: I'm going to do everything in my power to make

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Speaker 8: sure immobilize that moderate, sensible, common sense middle. That could

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Speaker 8: be a center left, center right, so it could be

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Speaker 8: a person who is involved in the Grand Old Party forever.

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Speaker 8: But they basically say, well, you know, my Democrat friends

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Speaker 8: over here, the old blue dog Democrats. The middle's gone.

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Speaker 8: There's not many of us centrist left and if I

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Speaker 8: can reinvigorate that, and I said, I will do everything

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Speaker 8: I possibly can. I'm totally absolutely scared to death that

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Speaker 8: Donald Trump would become president again. I think we will

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Speaker 8: lose democracy as we know it.

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Speaker 4: But are you considering running for president?

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Speaker 8: I will do anything I can to help my country.

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Speaker 5: Is that a yes?

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Speaker 8: And you're saying, does that mean you would consider it?

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Speaker 8: Absolutely every Americans should consider if they're in a position

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Speaker 8: to help save the country.

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Speaker 2: Okay, first of all, what is that absolutely every American

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Speaker 2: should consider she's asking if you're running for president, my man,

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Speaker 2: are you running for president? Not every American should consider

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Speaker 2: running for president. It's going to put that out there.

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Speaker 2: I know we're unimpressed with the political class these days,

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Speaker 2: and that makes sense, and we should be unimpressed. But

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Speaker 2: not every American should run for president. I think that's

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Speaker 2: pretty clear. What is Mansion trying to accomplish her The

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Speaker 2: belief among the politicos is that Mansion would team up

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Speaker 2: with Romney and the no labels political machinery, with Romney

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Speaker 2: at the top of the ticket as the weakest Republican

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Speaker 2: if you will possible, and Mancher at the bottom of

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Speaker 2: the ticket as the weakest Democrat. You know, when I

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Speaker 2: say weakest, I mean, you know, the closest to this

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Speaker 2: center for what their party believes. Right, they always call

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Speaker 2: them moderate Democrats or sorry, moderate Republicans rather and centrist Democrats.

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Speaker 2: Don't notice that moderate isn't like oh, it's like not,

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Speaker 2: he's not that crazy. He's a moderate Republican. And then

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Speaker 2: with Democrats, a centrist Democrat. You know, it's toward the center,

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Speaker 2: toward the beating heart of the politics in this country

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Speaker 2: at this moment in time. What this does first of all,

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Speaker 2: the notion that mid Romney wants to run again. What

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Speaker 2: is he doing? What is he doing? You know? I

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Speaker 2: think that for some people, and you see this a

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Speaker 2: been in you know, positions of power, and the only

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Speaker 2: thing that really gets their motor going seems to be

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Speaker 2: being in the spotlight in public and public acclaim wherever

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Speaker 2: they can get it. Nothing else really matters. And they'll

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Speaker 2: talk a lot about the need to serve the country.

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Speaker 2: I'll talk a lot about how oh I'm here, I'm

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Speaker 2: here not for you, you know. I'm reminded a little bit

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Speaker 2: what it is. It's very violent, it's very you know,

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Speaker 2: got a lot of very graphic stuff. But it's well

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Speaker 2: done show for what it is. But there's a character

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Speaker 2: And one of his his taglines is whenever he goes anywhere,

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Speaker 2: and this guy's a he's a really bad guy.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: It's like if Superman were a if Superman were like

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Speaker 2: a evil sociopath with like malignant narcissism, and he but

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Speaker 2: he shows up everyone he goes, You're the real heroes.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: Wherever he goes, he flies in. He's got his laser

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Speaker 2: eyes he can shoot people with beause you're the real heroes.

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Speaker 2: And he says it, this isn't for me, this is

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Speaker 2: for you. This is to serve my country. And I

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Speaker 2: think about this in the context of Joe Manchin being like,

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Speaker 2: you know, I got to run because I got to

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Speaker 2: stop Donald Trump from being president again, because that could

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Speaker 2: be the end of our democracy. He can't be that stupid, right,

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Speaker 2: He can't really believe Maybe he can. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm giving him too much credit. I don't really

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Speaker 2: believe it's gonna be the end of our democracy. Trump

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Speaker 2: was already president, and it was pretty great. There was

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Speaker 2: a lot of good stuff. Oh you can you know,

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Speaker 2: there's certainly criticism, and in twenty twenty even I have

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Speaker 2: criticisms of some of what Trump did with regard to

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Speaker 2: COVID and in response to the DLM riots. And I've

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Speaker 2: sat out in the air and people get mad at me. Buddy,

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to always just be honest with what I

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Speaker 2: see and what I think. But overall, the Trump presidency

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Speaker 2: was excellent. Overall the Trump put it this way, a

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Speaker 2: Trump presidency compared to a Biden presidency. You know, it's like, okay,

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Speaker 2: you know, you can line these two things up, and

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Speaker 2: I think it becomes very clear, very obvious that one

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Speaker 2: of them is good for the future of the country

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Speaker 2: and the other would be a continued decline. And with

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Speaker 2: that in mind, Joe Manchin saying that he's running to

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Speaker 2: save the country, it's like a Homelander is the evil

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Speaker 2: Superman character. I don't know if I said his name

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Speaker 2: from that show, but it's like Homelanders saying you're the

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Speaker 2: real heroes. It's like, I'm running to save the country. No,

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Speaker 2: you're running because you want attention. You're running because it

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Speaker 2: means you get to go give speeches and your political

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Speaker 2: brand continues. You can drive around, maybe get yourself a

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Speaker 2: second or third Maserati. He likes to drive a Maserati,

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Speaker 2: you know. And for Romney, Romney's worth like three hundred

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Speaker 2: million dollars or something like that. He's a very very

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Speaker 2: wealthy guy. His family never has to worry about money.

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Speaker 2: And you know why is he going to run? Because

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Speaker 2: for guys like that at this stage, they convince themselves

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Speaker 2: it's to save the country, but really it's to assuage

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Speaker 2: they're always hungry egos and to stay in the game

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Speaker 2: and to stay in the spotlight. Because what they're really

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Speaker 2: likely to do. And this is the final takeaway I

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Speaker 2: have on all this, if man in Romney were to run,

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Speaker 2: is for work the will of the vast majority of

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Speaker 2: the American voting public by possibly throwing the election to

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Speaker 2: one candidate or another instead of allowing the people to

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Speaker 2: have the choice they want to have. Right, meaning they

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Speaker 2: make some small impression on the electorate the no labels

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Speaker 2: possible Romney, possible Mansion candidacy. But then that's the difference

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Speaker 2: between victory and defeat for the Democrat and the Republican.

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Speaker 2: That's not helping the country, not letting the people have

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Speaker 2: their say, It's just kind of mudding the waters and

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Speaker 2: letting a bunch of egomaniacs run wild in the process.

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Speaker 2: So that's what I see more coming up stick around