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Visit Asy Cardinals 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: dot com slash podcast Here tween Joe, partner to the ten, 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: till the five and end the ends off of the touchdown. 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: Oh baby, hummil. Here's Craig Griolou, Mike Jarecki and three 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: time pro bowler Kyle Vandenbosch. We'll slip. Been a little 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: bit of a rollercoaster of emotions over the past five days, 14 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: from the high of Marquise Brown, the three day Draft, 15 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: eight new faces now with the Arizona Cardinals, and I think, gentlemen, 16 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: we were all sucker punched on Monday with the news 17 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: that DeAndre Hopkins will miss the first six games of 18 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: the regular season, suspended for performance enhancing substance, and now 19 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: we are left with what if or what now? I 20 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: guess I should say here on May third, because the 21 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: season is right around the corner. But you've got to 22 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: look at things without number ten at the moment. But 23 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: all things considered, welcome to May m J. Yeah, I 24 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: agree with you. You know, we like what the Cardinals 25 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: did in the first round going out and get an 26 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: approven receiver. Obviously he can help this offense. We are 27 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: talking about going four and five wide, and you know, 28 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: if there's a silver lining, and you know, I'm sure 29 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: Hope feels awful, and you know, he's been a really 30 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: good teammate and in the community, but this will taint 31 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: him just because I'm sure he's upset. It's unfortunate, but 32 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad he's gonna have to miss the first sixth, 33 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: then the last six and it gives his team an 34 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: entire offseason to try to figure out how they can 35 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: win without DeAndre Hopkins. Last year when he was on 36 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: the field, they were eight and two, scoring thirty points 37 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: a game. It's unbelievable, Kyle, how quickly things changed in 38 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: the National Football League. One day you're sitting at the 39 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: top of the world and the next day you're like, Okay, 40 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: well we need a group regroup. We got to reset. 41 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: Typically it's with an injury. This is much different. But 42 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: to MJ's point, at least you know now in May, 43 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: not September. Second days before week one. Yeah, there's no 44 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: better real life soap opera than the NFL. And it 45 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: comes at any time, in any moment, and we as 46 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: Cardinals fans, experienced it this week. But you're exactly right. 47 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: You know what we heard a lot coming out of 48 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: last season, either from you know, Coach Kingsbury or Steve 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: Come or even different players in the offense, is that 50 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: we didn't do a good enough job adjusting. We didn't 51 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: adapt enough when DeAndre Hopkins went down with an injury. Um, 52 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: you know, at this point, everything from what you do 53 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: in OTA's mini camps, training camp, preseason. You have an 54 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: opportunity to prepare without DeAndre Hopkins and and adjust your offense. 55 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: And um, you know, who knows, it may be a 56 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: completely different offense, uh, the one we see weeks one 57 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: through six than what we see on the back end 58 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: of the season. So um, it's gonna be interesting. But um, 59 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: you know, I think, um, if it's gonna happen. You know, 60 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: I'm glad that we have this information, that the team 61 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: has this information, that coach Coach Kingsbury can sit down, um, 62 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: you know, fit these new pieces into the offense and 63 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: design a game plan now so that they can prepare 64 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: for this. You know, the question becomes because you know, 65 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: obviously when you're suspended, you have to vacate the facility. 66 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: Now he can participate in the offseason and training camp 67 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: and I'm I mean, obviously he'll be healthy when he 68 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: returns in week seven, but how much can you use 69 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: him in training camp because you got to find out 70 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: who your guys are going into the season. So that's 71 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: going to be a touching goal, you know that. You 72 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: know during the season obviously you know he's out there 73 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: whether a Wednesday or Thursday, So you got to get 74 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: these other guys up to speed. Not saying he's gonna 75 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: miss a lot of time, because you know he's gonna 76 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: have to keep himself in the shape. And I'm not 77 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: worried when he comes back, but this you got to 78 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: be in football shape. So it's gonna be interesting just 79 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: when he's around, how do they approach things? And I 80 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: think he could be a good sponge for some of 81 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: these young guys too. At that position. Hopkins did release 82 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: a statement via social media and part quote to learn 83 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: that my November test came back with trace elements of 84 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: a banned substance. I was confused and shocked. And then 85 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: he talked about how careful he is with what he 86 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: puts and what he uses during the course of his training. 87 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: Then he added quote, but even as careful as I have, 88 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: then clearly I wasn't careful enough for that. I apologize 89 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: to Cardinals fans, my teammates, and the entire Cardinal organization. 90 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: I never want to let my team down, so handling 91 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: it well at this point, but again, you have to 92 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: kind of move on now. At the time, we were 93 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: just okay, you added Marquis Brown, you give up a 94 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: first round pick, number twenty three overall, to add to 95 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: that wide receiver room, to add to your offense, to 96 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: give Kyle the Murray another weapon. Lo and behold Kyle 97 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: now all of his son's like, wow, certainly glad they 98 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: pulled the trigger on that deal, because now you lose 99 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins for six games, that's a third of the season, 100 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: but you do have not his replacement but do you 101 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: do have another player that can help alleviate some of 102 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: what de hop gave you. Yeah, we talked about a lot. 103 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: When Hopkins was missing from the lineup last year. The 104 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: difference in the offense was there wasn't that number one guy. Well, 105 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: you do have a guy that has been a number 106 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: one in a system for a few years now and 107 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: a guy you know his his skill set. With DeAndre 108 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: Hopkins in the lineup adds a component that this offense 109 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: didn't have last year. Look, they're one of the best 110 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: things Kyler Murray does is throw a deep ball. He 111 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: is so accurate with his deep ball. He has a 112 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: high completion rate when he's throwing that deep ball. And 113 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: now he has that guy that can stretch the field. 114 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: And just having Hollywood Brown on the field makes defenses 115 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: account for him at all times. At any moment, he 116 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: could be going deep, so you can't cheat your safeties 117 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: up into the box, and you know, potentially it opens 118 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: things up underneath for for your tight ends, for some 119 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: of the shorter routes, and for your running game when 120 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: you have a guy that's keeping the safeties back. Here 121 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: is head coudge Cliff Kingsbury on how he believes mark 122 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: he's Brown fits within the Cardinals offense more playmakers. We 123 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: can have the better dynamic guy who can take the 124 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: top off inside outside, And you know, I think he's 125 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: just scratching the surface. We really feel like he fits 126 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: what we do. Played in a similar scheme in college 127 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: there at WU with Lincoln and so it should be 128 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: a quick learning curve as well. And teammates with Kyler 129 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: Murray in twenty eighteen that Heisman Trophy campaign for Murray, 130 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: and in that season, Brown led the nation and receptions 131 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: of forty plus yards, fifty plus yards, and sixty plus 132 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: yards to Kyle's points MJ. As far as finding someone 133 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: who could take the top off the offense or make 134 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: sure that you're just running by the defense, that in 135 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: a nutshell, is what Marcus Brown is. Yeah, And if 136 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: you watch some videos, excuse me, if you watch some videos, 137 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: I mean he's he really gets separation and he's you 138 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: see usually to show the ball on TV, but you 139 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: see the sky running and then the balls in the air, 140 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: and you know, I think Kyler Murray nothing against Lamar Jackson. 141 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: He obviously has a great skill set, but Kyler Murray 142 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 1: is much more accurate as you pointed out, especially balls 143 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: more than twenty yards down the field, So you could 144 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: still run three wide receivers here with Rondel Moore Brown 145 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: and then aj Greens and then you try to run 146 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: out of that formation too. But it wouldn't be a 147 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: surprise that we see a lot of well personnel in 148 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: those first six weeks, and that's the young fellow is 149 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: gonna have to come in and play, and I think 150 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: they're really excited about his upside and Trey McBride. It 151 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: is a much different offense or Kingsbury wants to do 152 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: things differently than what they did in Baltimore, and that 153 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,559 Speaker 1: it was part of the thought process as well. Quinton Harris, 154 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: vice president of Player Personnel, recently on the Day Pass 155 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: podcast discussed that's and why perhaps Brown might he be 156 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: even better here now in the desert Hollywood's opportunity. He's 157 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: gonna have more opportunity here than he did in Baltimore. 158 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: So I think that's the biggest thing, because you know, 159 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: even though we do have a solid run game, we're 160 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: gonna throw the ball around. We're gonna use four wide, 161 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: five wide at times, So you know, the opportunity if 162 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: you're a receiver, you want the ball, So I think 163 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: it was you know, the differences offenses for Hollywood is 164 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: going to be very good for him. Not that he 165 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: didn't get the opportunity in Baltimore. In fact, he have 166 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: o a thousand receiving yards last season for the first 167 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: time in his career. But I do think it's going 168 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: to be different opportunities. Maybe the number of times Kylie 169 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: Murray looks at his direction will be different than Lamar Jackson. Yeah, 170 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: we have much more weapons, a more complete array of 171 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,599 Speaker 1: weapons on this offense than Baltimore. Doesn't mean Baltimore is 172 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: a bit of a throwback type offense. I mean they're 173 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: built around the running game, and they're built around even 174 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: their quarterback running the football, so you don't get quite 175 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: as many opportunities. And actually it's it's pretty amazing the 176 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: fact that he was able to get a thousand yards 177 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: in that offense because he's not a focal point of 178 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: their offense. They don't go into a game in Baltimore saying, Okay, 179 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: how can we stretch the field, you know, how can 180 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: we feed Hollywood Brown. It's more they're throwing the ball 181 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: to open up opportunities in their run game um. So 182 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: you know this offense with you know, Kyler Murray is 183 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: a more accurate passer um. And again he continues to 184 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: mature in this Arizona offense, so there will be more 185 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: opportunities and you know, hopefully, you know, several times this 186 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: season you've just take an opportunity, you know, on second 187 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: short and just throw it deep to keep defenses honest. 188 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: And you know, whether you complete it or not, it's 189 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: on tape. Other teams had to prepare for it, and 190 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: it just opens up everything else in your offense. Now 191 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: we learned. Immediately after the trade was announce center manager 192 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: Steve Khan made mention that Brown and Kyler Murray have 193 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: been working out together in Dallas. While Marcus Brown asked 194 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: about that's on the Big Red, Rage discussed his chemistry 195 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. A lot of chemistry. He knows how 196 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: I think, I know how he thinks. I know what 197 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: he what he likes. We're far from college and we're 198 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: even better players than we were back then, so I 199 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: think we just got to get to work and really 200 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: see how how we could do it. One thing to 201 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: do it in college, another thing to do it on 202 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: the pro level. I'm j put to Brown's point though, 203 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean they have been working out that chemistry I 204 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: would think you hope continues now on this level. Yeah, 205 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: and the fact that they did play two years together 206 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: and it was interesting. Kyle, he told us he was 207 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: on the scout team and they would, they would. Him 208 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: and Kyler were on the scout team before you know it. 209 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: He felt like they can beat the starters, and that's 210 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: how his competition was obviously Baker Mayfield. But listen, twenty 211 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: one touchdowns in three years. I mean that's production. I mean, 212 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm happy for Christian Kirk, but I think 213 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown has more upside than Christian Kirk, especially when 214 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: it comes to the deep all. Now, he was a 215 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 1: photographer and he was close to a thousand yards, but 216 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: when you look at twenty one touchdowns, that's really impressive. 217 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: And he's improved every single year he's been in the league, 218 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: and eleven of his touchdowns of twenty or more yards 219 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: tied for third in the National Football League since entering 220 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: the league in twenty nineteen. More from Marcus Brown on 221 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: what Cardinal fans can expect out of him. It's been 222 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: a lot of big plays. I mean, I played with 223 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: a lot of passion, a lot of excitement. I haven't 224 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: even showcase anything I really could do in the NFL yet, 225 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: whatever the team hasked me to do, I'm gonna do. 226 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: And that's what I did in Baltimore. And you know, 227 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: I'm very excited the potential that I can I can 228 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: do in this offense. More with Marcus Brown coming up 229 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: on the Big Red Rage this week, Paul KELVISI had 230 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: a chance to sit down with Brown. Yuho. That entire 231 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: exclusive interview coming up on Thursday on the Arizona Cardinals 232 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: Radio Network. The one thing I'll say this Gyle from 233 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: his appearance at the draft party out at State Farm 234 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: Stadium to his introductory press conference to the next day 235 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: here at the facility, a giant smile on his face. 236 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: Someone who wanted out of Baltimore in fact, the past 237 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: two seasons had asked for a trade, gets what he 238 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: wants and now I think he sees his upside and 239 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: his potential going through the roof in this offense. Yeah. Absolutely. 240 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: And you know, you hear a lot of reports about 241 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: what kind of player he is and what type of 242 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: teammate he is. The One thing that keeps coming up 243 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: is He's an extremely hard worker, especially in the off season. 244 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: And you know, we talked about how some of our 245 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: auditions last year. You know, now they're into their second year, 246 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: and so you can expect him to be here, be 247 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: a part of the off season program and want to 248 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: hit the ground run. And he's not the type of 249 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: player that you know that from my knowledge, takes practices off, 250 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: just shows up on game day and has this unbelievable talent. 251 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 1: He's the kind of guy that shows up. He's a 252 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: lunch pale type guy. And again speaking to the chemistry, 253 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: one of the things you you know, we've seen from 254 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: Kyler over his career. Once he gets comfortable from a player, 255 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: he will continue to feed that player and go back 256 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: to him when he's under trouble. When he's in trouble 257 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: and under duress. You know, he has these guys we 258 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: saw with zach Ertz. You know in the second half 259 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: of last season, he was a reliable target. When Kyler 260 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: felt like he was in trouble, he would find zach Ertz. 261 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: And having that chemistry with another player on this roster 262 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: is going to benefit this offense in Kyler and I 263 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: think another thing it was key he's twenty four years old. 264 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: The Cardinals owned his rights for the next couple of years. 265 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: He really wasn't talking about, you know, cashing in right now, 266 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: and they can pick up his fifty year option. So 267 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: he's the perfect age. Obviously, he's going to stay healthy 268 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: and he's going to being a big, big spark to 269 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: this offense when it comes to a big playability down 270 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: the field, scoring touchdowns. Two years of control, costs chemistry. 271 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: Three with our quarterback can be a dynamic vertical threat, 272 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: which is something we were looking for. Those three things 273 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: General manager Steve con discussed when they announced the trade 274 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: Marquis Brown now in Arizona Cardinals. That was Day one 275 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty two NFL Draft for the Arizona Cardinals, 276 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: so no draft picks Cardinals, though on Day two added 277 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: three new faces, including a couple of edge rushers. We'll 278 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: discuss that here as we continue. It's the Cardinals Red 279 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: Sea Report presented by Zeki Get your seats in a 280 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: seat here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio network. The Arizona 281 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals select trade McBride, Cameron Thomas J. Standard Pickard since 282 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: the Downey goes those Carls day Candon traffic nearly pick 283 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: and then McBride with a catch of the sideline swung 284 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: down by Cameron Thomas, Ken Thomas, big hand from Mike J. Sanders. 285 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: Oh it's dad, stop themselves a birth down the Pride. 286 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: He's down Star Talkstown to stay. Tray McBride, Cameron Thomas 287 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: and my J. Sanders. Those three selections on Day two 288 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty two NFL Draft. McBride is second 289 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: round selection, Thomas and Sanders third round selections. As we 290 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: continue here on the Cardinals read to report presented by 291 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: a Zek geek. Get your seats in a seat, let's 292 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: touch on McBride. The day two pick, second round selection, 293 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: fifty fifth overall. Certainly a lot of needs going into 294 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: the draft. Edge rusher, offensive line, defensive line. So I 295 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: turned to U Kyle when the Cardinals were on the 296 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: clock with the fifty fifth overall selection, and you heard 297 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: tight end at that point. Surprised, stunned, I was, Yeah, absolutely, 298 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: I was extremely surprised, But I was more surprised that 299 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: Tray McBride was still there. We all know, and it's 300 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: it seems like, you know, the league is so cyclical, 301 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: and everybody it's like a copycat lead. But a couple 302 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: of years ago, everybody was looking for that tight end 303 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: that's big enough to be an inline blocker but can 304 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: run good routes and has great hands, and that this 305 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: guy is everything. He's a matchup problem for a defense. 306 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: I mean, if you try to cover him with a dB, 307 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: he's too big and he's too physical, and if you 308 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: try to put a lineback around him. He does have 309 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: that speed and he catches ball as well in traffic. 310 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: He's got soft hands. You know, he's to me. You 311 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: know again, had this been a couple of years ago 312 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: when everybody wanted that next Gronkowski year, everybody, you know, 313 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: the tight ends were really taking the league over those 314 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: guys that could split out and you know, present matchup problems, 315 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: but they can also be really good physical inline blockers. 316 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: Everybody was looking for those, and they didn't. Typically the 317 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: top tight end the draft typically didn't last pass like 318 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen, middle of the first round. So it's a 319 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: tremendous value pick a guy that, you know, if he 320 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: fits into this offense the right way, could be a 321 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: real weapon for this offense. McBride's six four two forty 322 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: six Zach Ertz six five to fifty. Max Williams if healthy, 323 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: six four two fifty two, So someone talking about McBride 324 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: MJ can come in and be that number three, or 325 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: if Williams is not available at the start of the season, 326 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: be that number two tight end and perhaps see a 327 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: lot of playing time. Oh, he mean, he's gonna be 328 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: active on gamed in. Now it's just a matter of 329 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: how much should they put on his plate. But you know, 330 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: you look at it. You know, zach Ertz signed a 331 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: three year deal. He'll be thirty two during the season, 332 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: so how long to see play at least in the 333 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: next couple of years playing at a high level. Obviously, 334 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: is Kyla pointed out earlier, Kyla trust him and so 335 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, you got you got a 336 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: tight end that can do a lot of different things 337 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: in the future, and you don't have to go out 338 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: and spend big money for a tight end us draft 339 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: the one you develop. I mean, he's going to be 340 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, he'll be a big part of this offense 341 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: this season. It's just a matter of, you know, how 342 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: much he can retain early on, probably more productive in 343 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: the second half, but they're gonna have to utilize him 344 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: in the first six games. A unanimous first team All American, 345 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: First Team All Mountain was won. That John Mackey Award 346 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: given to the nation's best tied in So what do 347 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: the Cardinals like about Trey McBride? Here's general manager Steve Come. 348 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: People ask what do you like about him? I don't know. 349 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: What's there not to like about him? You know? Special human, 350 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: special player, rare stats. Obviously over a thousand yards receiver 351 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: as a tight end, ninetiesome catches. The guy can do 352 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: it all. He can play inline, he can flex, he 353 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: can motion, he can play out of the backfield. He's 354 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: got tremendous hands, great catching radius, really strong on a crowd, 355 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: characters off the charts, three time captain, phenomenal leader, and 356 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: just thankful he was there again. Not a need, But 357 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: what do we hear often from Steve Come? Your needs 358 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: in April and may not the same needs you have 359 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: come October and November. So the follow up to come, 360 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: why tight end in the second round? We owe to 361 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: the organization to do the right things for not only 362 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: today but tomorrow in the future. And we got a 363 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: young quarterback that we're excited about. We have a twenty 364 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: four year old receiver. We had it, and we just 365 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: had another young, dynamic playmaker as a tight end. So 366 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: it made sense in every way. Kyler Murray, Marquis Brown, 367 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: Trey McBride. There are three offensive pieces. Don't forget about 368 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: Ron Delmore going into year two. To come's point, now, 369 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: you get a little bit of a core, a young core, 370 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: skilled position wise, Yeah, and you always want to have 371 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: that good mix of quality veterans and young players who 372 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: are developing. And you know, we've talked so much about 373 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: how this offense looked different when DeAndre Hopkins wasn't in 374 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: the offense. The offense also looked different when Max Williams 375 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: was out of the lineup last year. Max Williams was 376 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: a real weapon at the beginning of the season last year. 377 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: He you know, when he first got here, he was 378 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: primarily a blocker, and then last year he he became 379 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: a weapon in the passing game. And that's what you 380 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: get with Trey McBride. I mean, you know the thing 381 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: we heard when we trade for Zechertz, tremendous receiver, has 382 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: got great hands. He's a willing blocker, but not necessarily 383 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: the most physical. I feel like Trey McBride is more 384 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: in the Max Williams mold, you know, a little bit younger, 385 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: well a lot younger, and a little bit more athletic, 386 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: but he's he's better in the blocking game. So you know, 387 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: I think, you know, if I could again look back 388 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: at where things went wrong last year, Obviously DeAndre Hopkins 389 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: injury was a huge part of it. But Max Williams, 390 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: you can't discount how different the offense was when he 391 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: was no longer on it. So edge rusher not addressed 392 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: on the second round. It was addressed twice though in 393 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: the third round. Cameron Thomas out of San Diego State 394 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: pick number eighty seven overall, my J Sanders out of Cincinnati, 395 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: one hundredth overall selection. That was the pick acquired in 396 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: the Marquise Brown trade as well to the defensive ends, 397 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: but Kim said, will play outside linebacker on this level. 398 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: I know it's been a little bit limited as far 399 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: as how much we see them outside of Cincinnati, but 400 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: not Power five schools. But what do you like, initially, Kyle, 401 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: out of these two players that you hope can disrupt 402 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: an offense. Yeah, starting with Cameron Thomas, his production is outrageous. 403 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: I mean seventy seven pressures in fourteen games. That is 404 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: a lot of production. He had the sack numbers in college, 405 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: the limited amount of tape I was able to watch 406 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: plays with his hands. Really well, he's a physical player, 407 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: really instinctive in the run game. I mean he controls, blockers, 408 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: sheds and makes a lot of plays in the run 409 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: game as well. You know, again, something that the defense 410 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: struggled with for the entirety of last season was stopping 411 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: the run, play, making plays against good running backs, putting 412 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: teams in second, third, and long. I think he will 413 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: be able to help with that. And then you know 414 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: Mike j. Sanders, He's he's a bit smaller, a bit different, 415 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: probably plays better in space, a little bit more twitchy, 416 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: a little more dynamic coming off the edge. You know, 417 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: might possibly be a package type player. One of the things, 418 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about over and over last season, 419 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: especially through the first part of the season, is how 420 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: well Vance Joseph used players and let them play to 421 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: their strengths. Moved guys around, changed packages, changed alignments. So 422 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, you put this guy in space, let him 423 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: just go off the edge. He has an opportunity to 424 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: get in the backfield and get some pressures and get 425 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: some hits on the quarterback. Now with Thomas, there is 426 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: the possibility we see him put his hand in the 427 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: dirt inside maybe inside at JJ watt k I mentioned 428 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 1: that as a possibility given Thomas his size and then 429 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 1: what he was able to do at San Diego State. Yeah, 430 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: I mean if you look at it, he's sixty four, 431 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty four pounds. I mean he had 432 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty five tackles, thirty nine tackle for losses, 433 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: twenty one sacks. He had eleven and a half sacks 434 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: last year, forty six quarterback hits. So he's a guy 435 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: that can do a lot. And when you watch his film, 436 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: I mean he's all over the field. He's you know, 437 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: he's he'll be a good special teams player. But you 438 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: know he's a little bit bigger obviously, being six four 439 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: two sixty four And look at Sanders he's six four 440 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: about two forty two. So you can see why they 441 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: want him to play a little bit defensive line and 442 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: outside linebacker. Cardinals VP of Player Personnel and Quentin Harris 443 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: this week on the Day Pass Podcasts, a little scouting 444 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: reports on Cam Thomas, Cam he's super athletic. And what 445 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: you loved about cam is you loved his interview, you 446 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: love the intensity, but and you love the way he 447 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: played the game. And also with cam Is, he showed 448 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: some ability to put his hand in the ground and 449 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: play some of the five play some of the outside 450 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: backer stuff due to his athleticism. So we really loved 451 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: his motor, his temperament. Now with Sanders again, Cincinnati not 452 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: a Power five program, but a program that did step 453 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: up of the last several years playing the likes of 454 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: an Alabama, a Notre Dame getting to the conference or 455 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: excuse me, the College Football Playoff, and those are when, 456 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: according to time that Sanders really stepped up. He stood 457 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: out on film. More from Quentin Harris on my j 458 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: Sanders maj. You look at his numbers, You're like, they're 459 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: kind of a whole hum But if you really study 460 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: the tape and you really study how disrupt if this 461 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: guy is MAJA, you're getting a guy that is a 462 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: tempo center, plays with his hair on fire, tons of upside. 463 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: Now he's gonna have to work on finishing rushers because 464 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: he missed about seven sacks just because he's you know, 465 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: he plays with that temple in that effort. So there's 466 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: little details that all these guys need to work on, 467 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: but specifically, maj is just gonna have to just to 468 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: slow down a little bit. Say this about Cincinnati, they 469 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: had nine players drafted. Only Georgia and LSU had more players. 470 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: Georgia with fifteen, LSU with ten. Cincinnati, that program has 471 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: taken a tremendous leap forward. And I mentioned part of 472 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: that college football playoffs. So we have seen Sanders against quality, 473 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: top tier competition. Yeah, and I watched some of his 474 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: clips from the Senior Bowl and you would think, again, Um, 475 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: being a lighter type outside rusher, he might be liability 476 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: in the run game. And I saw him stand up 477 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: offensive tackles in the run game in the in the 478 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. I saw him bury a tight end in 479 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: the run game in the Senior Bowl. So, um, he 480 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: has that strength in spite of, you know, the fact 481 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: he probably could put on another ten fifteen pounds and 482 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: add that to his frame. Um, he's he's definitely, you know, 483 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: he's he's intriguing as a pass rusher, but he will 484 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: not be a liability in the run game when he's 485 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: on the field. Yeah, Luke Vick Fickle has done a 486 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: great job there. You gotta give him a lot of 487 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: credit and obviously his ties to to Ohio State U 488 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: Fickle on Sanders quote, He's an emotional guy. The greatest 489 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: attraitrute with my g is his energy and in his emotions. Now, 490 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: Bruce Feldman, he made his Freaks List reportly four five, 491 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: six and the forty and then also in his ten 492 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: shuttle he ran a four ten four point one. So 493 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: he can move in being two hundred and what is 494 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: it forty five pounds forty eight pound, So yeah, I mean, 495 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: it's going to be interested just to see how they 496 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: utilize him. But he's a guy that can do a 497 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: couple different things besides just rushed to the passer. His 498 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: weight was certainly a hot topic the night he was drafted, 499 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: because you get NFL dot com look at his draft 500 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: profile and it shows up as two hundred and believe 501 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: it was twenty eight pounds he weighed in at the 502 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: scouting combine under two thirty. He told reporters that he's 503 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: about two forty two, wants to play at two fifty five, 504 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: which is what Chandler Jones play at, so at least 505 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: he understands, and there were some issues with his weight, 506 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: but don't be fooled by the slight frame. But you're 507 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: looking for someone that can get off the edge and 508 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: be quick around those either a tight end or a tackle. Yeah, 509 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: it's you know, that's that's the void left by Chandler Jones. 510 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: We you know, in spite of the versatility of some 511 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: of these guys we drafted, we need somebody to come 512 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: off the edge. We need somebody that's just going to 513 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: fly off the edge, you know, if it's we have players, 514 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: you know, and that's one of the things that Cardinals do. 515 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: They rotate their players. They put different guys in in 516 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: different packages. We will have players on this roster that 517 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: will be able to come on the field and running situations. 518 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: I think, especially for some of these later round picks, 519 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: you don't want to put too much on their plate. 520 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: You want to say, here is your job, here's what 521 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to get good at, and it you know, 522 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: just listening to Quentin it they've already identified where he 523 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: needs to work and they will work on that this 524 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: summer and hopefully throughout training camp and hopefully, you know, 525 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: he's not going to be a finished product day one 526 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: game one, but they've identified the things he needs to 527 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,719 Speaker 1: work at and they will get him there. You got 528 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: Marcus Golden, you got Devon Kaannard, Dennis Gardock. How much 529 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: more do we see him play defense as opposed to 530 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: special teams? Convictor d Mukage make a leap forward in 531 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: his second year, and Ron del Carter, who they were 532 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: awarded off waivers. So that's what you're looking at at 533 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: outside linebacker right now. Day two, twenty twenty two NFL 534 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: Draft three players again, two edge rushers. On Day three, 535 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: another edge rusher, plus a couple of guards, cornerback and 536 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: running back. All address and we'll touch on that as 537 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: we continue. We have hit halftime here on the Cardinals 538 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: Red Sea Report presented by Zekie Get your seats in 539 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: a seats A reminder, Arizona Cardinal season tickets are available now. 540 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: Visit asy cardinals dot com slash season to secure the 541 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 1: best seats. Today. Craig Raya, Lukav Nibosch, and Mike Jarecki 542 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: talking in the Cardinals and the twenty twenty two NFL 543 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: Draft here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. Listen to Huck. 544 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: There is some select ten Cardinals sixth round selection number 545 00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: two fifteen overall out of Virginia Tech offensive guard Licida Smith, 546 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: as it sounded from Mexico as the Cardinals had their 547 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: Day three picks announced in Mexico. More on that in 548 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: a moment, but yes, on Day three of the Cardinals 549 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: with a couple of guards are running back, cornerback, and 550 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: another outside linebacker slash inside linebacker. But let's take these 551 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: one at a time and go in the trenches. The 552 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: offensive line, Kyle, you always talk about that's where the 553 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: game is won and lost. Offensive line, specifically the guard 554 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: position with Lucida Smith and are also Marquis Hayes who 555 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: was selected in the seventh round. We talked about a 556 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: hole at the guard spot. Right guard, well you got 557 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: Will Hernandez, left guard Justin Pugh. But both those players 558 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: under contract for just twenty twenty two. In fact, Rodney 559 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: Hudson's the only offensive lineman under contract past this season. Yeah. 560 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: I liked the guards. They're both physical. I mean, they're 561 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: both tremendous value picks. You know a lot of experts 562 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: quote unquote expert had them going higher than than when 563 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: the Cardinals got them. Um, Lucida Smith, you know was 564 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: a high school tight end. Um, so he moves well, 565 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: he's athletic, he plays with good bend. Um will be 566 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: really good at what the Cardinals do. He's a he's 567 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: good in the zone blocking scheme and and what I like. Um, 568 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: you know, while they may not be m polished day 569 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: one starters, I believe the Cardinals have the best offensive 570 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: line coach in the league and coach Sean Coogler has 571 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: shown and has the ability to develop these young players 572 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: and turn them into good pros. So, um, they have 573 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,719 Speaker 1: an opportunity to learn. They they're not. We don't need 574 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: them to be day one starters. Man, it would be 575 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: a huge bonus if they are good enough that they 576 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: can jump in and beat somebody out. But um, you 577 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: give these guys an opportunity to learn, Um potentially be 578 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: you know, dress on game day. Um, if either one 579 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: of these guys can can learn to snap, there's tremendous 580 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: value and a guy that can be a swing um 581 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: at both center or play at either guard position, and 582 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of value for that throughout the season. 583 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: So I love these two picks, especially, like you said, 584 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: looking down the road. So next year, when we hit 585 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: free agency. We don't have all of a sudden need 586 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: four offensive lineman entering free agency. Yeah, he's got good size. 587 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,719 Speaker 1: I think he's got a good anchor. They list him 588 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: at sixty three an a three hundred and twenty one pounds. Now, 589 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: he's played in forty five games. He's actually started thirty 590 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: seven times at left guard. He also played left tackle 591 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: in a pinch for the Hokeys out of Virginia tech Um. Again, 592 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: I like the size of both of these guys. Where 593 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, I think Josh Jones is a little light 594 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: in the pants, so maybe he's more of a tackle 595 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: than guard because he's getting pushed around and obviously some 596 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: of the penalties where he's he doesn't have the the 597 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: anchor to hold down. And then you look at the 598 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: other lineman there. Look at Hayes. I mean he's six 599 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: four and three quarters, three hundred and eighteen pounds, he's 600 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: played in thirty seven games started, and you just look 601 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: at him. His size. Winks spent about eighty three and 602 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: a half inches. His arms are thirty five, So that's 603 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: good for an interior guy. So I agree with Kyle. 604 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to go out and spend 605 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: big money in free agency, and you know Sean Cooler 606 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: is going to play the best five guys. But it's 607 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: nice to have depth where you're not just, you know, 608 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: picking a guy off the street. Hay's performed well at 609 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: the senior ball. He also has this going for him, 610 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: former teammate of both Kyler Murray and Marcus Brown at Oklahoma. 611 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: So those two guards part of the Day three haul 612 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: five selections overall. Let's go back to Quentin Harris, Cardinals 613 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: VP of player Personnel. On the Day Pash podcast, he 614 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: was asked of those Day three selections who he was 615 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: most excited about. I really like Lucida Smith, our guard 616 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: we took out of Virginia Tech. This guy is athletic, 617 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: he's an excellent pooler. He's tough, he's physical, and a 618 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: lot of times, you know, you watch NFL lineman and 619 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: you're like, h he's tough, he's strong, but he's slow footed. 620 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: This guy is everything. He was a steal in my 621 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: opinion for us. He's one guy that once he gets 622 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,239 Speaker 1: his opportunity, it's it's gonna be tough to remove him 623 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: from the seat. And I think you know his temperament 624 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: and again when we talk about bringing these A and 625 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: B football characters guys in. He's one of those guys again. 626 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: Sixth rounds selection two hundred and fifteenth overall. Also in 627 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: the sixth round, Keyante Ingram, running back out of USC, 628 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: two hundred and first overall pick ran a four five 629 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: three forty honorable mention out of the Pac twelve. Started 630 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: his career at Texas and someone that you look at 631 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: depth wise. Now all of a sudden, you know about 632 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: James Connor. You just don't know about running back two 633 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: and three. I'll love the size five eleven and a half, 634 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: two hundred and ten pounds. You know, he was a 635 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: little heavy at Texas and then he dropped some weight 636 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: and he really played well last year at USC. I 637 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: mean he started in seven games head nine hundred and 638 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: eleven yards rushing, five point eight yards per carry, five 639 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns, and he can also catch the ball in 640 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: the backfield. So it's a good one two punch. He's 641 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: obviously a lot bigger than you know, Benjamin Jonathan. Ward's 642 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: more of a special teams player. And the Cardinals did 643 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: have interest in Darryl Williams, who played for the Chiefs, 644 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: and I wonder what that situation is like because at 645 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: the time he looked like his asking price was a 646 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: little high, but now you've addressed it. So I do 647 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: think he's going to be active on game day. And 648 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: to me, he's a guy that can do a lot 649 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: of different things. But I just like the size five 650 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: to eleven and he could push that pile, and he 651 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: could run between the tackles, as Kyle pointed out, with 652 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: the zone read and the zone blocking scheme, and he 653 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: can also I think one thing you got to look 654 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: at any young guy coming in, they're not asked to 655 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: do a lot of pass protection. You're the safety net, 656 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: You're the last line of defense on a quarterback. So 657 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: that's something that James Sexton will work with him to 658 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: get him more up to speed. Con called him a 659 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: downhill runner. Ingram told Pro Football Network leading up to 660 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: the draft, quote, I have a violent running style. So 661 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: we'll see once rookie Minicamp begins next week, all of 662 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 1: these players will be he year working out in our 663 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: first up close look at each of them. The other 664 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: one I want to single out here because it's a 665 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: defensive player outside linebacker, Jesse Looketta out of Penn State 666 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: sixty three two fifty three. Someone that kind mentioned Kyle 667 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: can play both outside and inside. It's one of those 668 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: things that they'll bring him in and then see where 669 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,439 Speaker 1: he is best suited. He was, basically, according to Kime, 670 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: one of those guys that helps set the defense at 671 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: Penn State, that's what you typically like out of your 672 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 1: inside linebacker. But at college he was an outside linebacker. 673 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: We'll see if that is where his position is in 674 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: the National Football League. Yeah, he's got a good nose 675 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: for the football, good closing speed, a really good open 676 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: field tackler. A bunch of the clips I saw he 677 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: was actually lined up as an inside linebacker, a mike 678 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: backer at times. But even if he stays on the inside, 679 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: which you know we've got some we've got young players 680 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: at inside linebacker, he provides good depth in One of 681 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: the things that I like about the Cardinals, and they've 682 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: shown this for years now, is they're not afraid to 683 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: develop a guy and use him as a special team's 684 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: ace in the meantime. I mean, there's just already a 685 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: number of players in the Cardinals locker room that are 686 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: phenomenal special teams type players, and he may be that 687 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 1: type of player. Early on, you know, I didn't see 688 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: him many clips of him as an outside linebacker, as 689 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: specifically as an edge rusher. But you know, maybe they 690 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: see something on tape that they see some of the 691 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: attributes that they could work him in as an outside rusher. 692 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: But he's definitely he plays really well in space, and 693 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: he dissects offenses and plays really well and made a 694 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: lot of plays. Speaking of pet State, they had eight 695 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: players drafted. He was one of the eight. So that 696 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: you start looking at some of these schools that are obviously, 697 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: you know, playing in these bigger bowl games. Honorable Mention 698 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: All Big Ten Conference career high sixty one tackles, eight 699 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: tackle for losses. He had fifty nine tackles in two 700 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: twenty in nine games. Again, do you see him as 701 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: more of a Marcus Golden Victor de mckeechee type body type? Uh? 702 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: Not really, I mean, I just I didn't see him 703 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 1: used in that way. If body type, it's not quite 704 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: as thick as Victor D. Mckagee. Um, but um, who knows. 705 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: I mean, it's when you're picking at this point in 706 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: the draft. Um, it's not always about what they did 707 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: in what position they played in college. Often it's it's 708 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: a projection based on their ability. You know, it seems 709 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 1: like maybe following time what they don't do in free agency. 710 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 1: But I thought on day three they really addressed the 711 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: needs and instead of saying we're going to take the 712 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,439 Speaker 1: best available player, we're looking for a diamond and rush 713 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: and that's why they came away with you know, three 714 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: passed rush. There was a couple of linemen and a 715 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: running back, so I thought it was important to address 716 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: those needs versus time to take the best available player. 717 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: Also out of a cornerback Chris Matthew out of Alldosta's state, 718 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: he was the other seventh round selection. Grew up watching 719 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson played wide receiver in high school, so again 720 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: you're adding depth in that cornerback room. Episode twenty nine 721 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 1: of The Day Pash Podcast featuring Cardinals VP of Player 722 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 1: Personnel Quinton Harris, is available now. To catch up on 723 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: past episodes, follow the Day Pash Podcast be your preferred 724 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: podcast provider. Get the latest updates via Twitter Pat pash pot. 725 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: It is the Cardinals Red Sea Report presented by Zekeep 726 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: get your seats in a seat here on the Arizona 727 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals Radio Network. Jackson on Firstdown wants to throw going 728 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: deep looking for Hollywood Brown end zone touchdown. Hollywood Brown. 729 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: Oh what a throwing catch. Heather Ravens have taken their 730 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: first lead in the afternoon. My man against your man. 731 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: I love this man's heart. I love the way he responds. 732 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: It's incredible and the throw was right on the money 733 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,280 Speaker 1: back of the end zone Tooke Taft stretched out. Absolutely beautiful. 734 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: Ravens radio on the play by play. The newest Arizona 735 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals wide receiver Marquis Brown acquired from the Ravens for 736 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,760 Speaker 1: the Cardinals first round selection. Plus don't forget the Cardinals 737 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 1: got that third round pick as well, but Marquis Brown 738 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: now with the Arizona Cardinals. The question is how much 739 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: do we see Marquis Brown initially in this offense. Probably 740 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: more than we expected because the news of DeAndre Hopkins's 741 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,760 Speaker 1: absence at least through the first third of the season. 742 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: But the more I think about it, MJ, the more 743 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: I read about it, and obviously the chemistry with the 744 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: quarterback I think plays a large part. You can certainly 745 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: see Marquis Brown, and I think the goal should be 746 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: another one thousand yard receiving season. Now you've got a 747 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 1: j Greene, Rondel Moore, zach Ertz. So there are more 748 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 1: weapons that Kyler can utilize with respects to this offense, 749 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: but that should be at least an individual goal for 750 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: Marquis Brown. Yeah, and I think we're going to see 751 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: that probably in the first six weeks of the season 752 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: and when Hop comes back. Obviously teams are going to 753 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: defend the Cardinals offense a little bit different. But day 754 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: he is a number one wide receiver on this roster 755 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: right now, and he's shown that, and you know, you know, 756 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: he was number one in Baltimore. Obviously they ran a 757 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: different scheme and all that, so I'm curious to see 758 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: how they're going to use and move them around. But 759 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: some of those highlights a toe tap. I mean, this 760 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: guy is dynamic in the open field. And we've talked 761 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: about Kyler's strength about throwing the ball down the field, 762 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: and now we'll loosen up a lot of things for 763 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 1: your running game too, because now you're gonna make a choice, 764 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: So I want to drop a guy in the box 765 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: or we're gonna have to play a cover too. We're 766 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 1: not gonna allow him to get behind us. So I 767 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,919 Speaker 1: think he's gonna give defensive coordinators, you know you're gonna 768 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: get him ahead of except certain points in the game. 769 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: The deep play threat obviously is there, Kyle, but he 770 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: can have or we might be able to see him 771 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,280 Speaker 1: inside maybe out of the backfield. As far as motioning 772 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: out of the backfield just to give a defense a 773 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: different look. I don't think we should just expect him 774 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 1: to be the outside wide receiver one hundred percent of 775 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: the time. Right he has elites, you know, it's it's 776 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: his ability to um just burn once he has the 777 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: ball in his hands. And you know, Baltimore did use him, 778 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: you know, on some of the shorter passes, especially late 779 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: in this season. Last year. M you know, the biggest 780 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 1: thing for me was, okay, so we're without DeAndre Hopkins 781 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 1: for six games. When DeAndre Hopkins wasn't in the lineup 782 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: last year, the offense kind of felt dinky and dunkey, 783 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: like there was never really a threat of anybody getting 784 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: over the top. And so the offense won't look like 785 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm sure the adjustments are being made, 786 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: you know, you learn from what happened late last season, 787 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: but the offense won't look like what it looked like 788 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: without DeAndre Hopkins last year. When they don't have him 789 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: this year, you do have that guy that can get 790 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: over the top and it's not just gonna be um, 791 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: you know, five yards and hope the receiver makes a 792 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: guy miss and pick up a first down. So um, 793 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: you know, anytime you can add a player, And we 794 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: had talked about this when we were looking at you know, 795 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: what type of receiver can they draft that twenty three. 796 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: This is the type of receiver we wanted them to 797 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: draft at twenty a guy that can stretch the field, 798 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: get vertical, and be that deep threat. So you still 799 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: got aj Green on the outside. Now is he is 800 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: you think Brown's replacing Kirk or Rondel Moore playing more 801 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: in a slot even though they wanted to get him 802 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: on the outside. I think he will play the slot 803 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 1: when DeAndre Hopkins is back, but I can see early 804 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: in the season, you know, him playing more outside, just again, 805 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: because if that's that's what they were missing when DeAndre 806 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: Hopkins wasn't in the lineup. Is that guy that they 807 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: can you know, throw the thirty forty yard routes down 808 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: the field to stretch the field. Two seasons, Kyler Murray 809 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: and Marquis Brown played together at Oklahoma. The head coach 810 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 1: at that time, now USC Lincoln Riley, asked on flagship 811 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,240 Speaker 1: station ninety eight seven FM Arazon, a sports station, about 812 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 1: Marky's Brown and ability to track that deep ball. Everybody 813 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: sees a speed like anybody on earth can see. This 814 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: guy's pretty fast. But on top of it, most people 815 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: aren't able to track a ball running full speed down 816 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: the field with another guy hanging all over you. Most 817 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: most people can't track the ball at the level that 818 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: this guy can. And so it's a cool combination. Again 819 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: that season at Oklahoma in twenty eighteen, Brown eleven catches 820 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: of forty or more yards, seven catches of fifty or 821 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: more yards, four catches of sixty or more yards. So 822 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: that is the definition of a deep threat as far 823 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: as playmaker is concerned. Now, the type of person Marquis 824 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: Brown is, we've heard about what he does during the 825 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 1: week leading up to games. Brown asked about his practice habits. 826 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: You want to practice how you really want to play. 827 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,320 Speaker 1: So when I'm at practice, I envision myself. You know, 828 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: when I catch this slant, I'm gonna take it to 829 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: the end zone. Even though we might be practicing at 830 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: the ten down here, I'm gonna take it to the 831 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: end zone because that's what I'm doing the game. So 832 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: just bringing that energy so when you in the game, 833 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: it makes it a lot easier practice how you expect 834 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: to play on Sunday. Correct, Oh, that's absolutely right. And honestly, 835 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not old man, you know, yelling about 836 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 1: how the game has changed. It's how the game has changed. 837 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: Like you know, practice isn't the way it used to be. 838 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,320 Speaker 1: But so you are always searching for those guys that 839 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: are internally motivated, that show up every day, that run 840 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,399 Speaker 1: routes in practice like they're going to run him in games. 841 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 1: And that's what makes your offense work on Sundays. Well, 842 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: when Larry was younger, he'd do the same thing. He'd 843 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: catch a pass in practice in front of the end 844 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 1: zone and you know I always ran back to the huddle. 845 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, this guy, you can see he 846 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 1: likes to practice and he knows that you know, iron 847 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 1: Sharpern's iron, and that's going to prove out to him 848 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: and allow him to do what he wants to do 849 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 1: on game day. A reminder coming up on Wednesday morning, 850 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 1: May fourth, we will find out the opponents and we 851 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: will find out when the Cardinals will be in Mexico City. 852 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: The International Games will be announced on Wednesday morning. The 853 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 1: rest of the National Football League schedule to be announced 854 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: on May twelve, So just kind of put that in 855 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: the back of your head and of course we'll talk 856 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 1: about it right here on the Cardinals Red Sea Report Special. 857 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: Thanks behind the scenes, your broadcast manager and producer Jim 858 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: Momhandro technical director Cody Fincher for Kyle Vnibosch, Mike Jarecki, 859 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm preg Riel Lou will talk to you in one 860 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 1: week's time. It's Cardinals Red Sea Report right here on 861 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. You've been listening to The 862 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals Red Sea Report fifteen ten by Fuckdown zach Ertz 863 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: Booa Baker with the sack strip the ball, Mary's gonna 864 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 1: score touchdown, Oh Babies. The Cardinals Red Sea Report is 865 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,280 Speaker 1: brought to you by the Arizona Cardinals Mobilized, visit Asy, 866 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot Com, slash app, Touchdown, Cardinals whim. This has 867 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 1: been an exclusive presentation of the Arizona Cardinals Football Club