WEBVTT - Uvalde Rising

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<v Speaker 1>Dear listener, The upcoming episode is about the Uvalde massacre.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a lot of moments of joy and healing,

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<v Speaker 1>but some of it is tough to listen to, so

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<v Speaker 1>please take care. WHOA, Oh my gosh, okay, wait, I

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<v Speaker 1>totally want to do that. It's a cold and rainy

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<v Speaker 1>and gray day in late January in uval De, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>But this weather is not stopping ten year old Caitlin

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<v Speaker 1>Gonzalez right now. She's running around in a black jacket

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<v Speaker 1>and crocs. She's zooming across her backyard on a makeshift zipline.

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<v Speaker 1>It's attached to two trees on opposite ends of the yard.

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<v Speaker 1>And well, I've never done this before. Do I have

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<v Speaker 1>to get up on this?

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<v Speaker 3>I can push you up?

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<v Speaker 1>Really? Caitlyn looks like she's flying through her backyard. Her

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<v Speaker 1>super long, super dark brown hair is flowing behind her.

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<v Speaker 1>She's bursting with energy. And well, she's very insistent that

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<v Speaker 1>I have to get on this zipline sick this way?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Am?

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<v Speaker 1>I not feeling so good about this? And yeah, I'm nervous,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also really want to take this moment to

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<v Speaker 1>connect with Caitlyn.

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<v Speaker 5>You're ready?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, this is so fun. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>this is so fun. Now what do I do?

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<v Speaker 6>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>What do I do? Her parents, Gladys and Neftali who

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<v Speaker 1>goes by neph are staring at us from the porch.

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<v Speaker 1>I see them laughing as we struggle to get off

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<v Speaker 1>the zipline, and I'm finally back on my feet, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Kaitlyn grabs me by the hand takes me over

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<v Speaker 1>to a slab of concrete near their house, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>in their backyard, and we start getting ready to paint.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing abstract painting as a way to heal and

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<v Speaker 1>wind down. Can I start, eh? Do you mind if

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<v Speaker 1>I use my fingers?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind at all.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just trying to figure out what I'm gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>Earlier in the day, Caitlyn's parents had told me that

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<v Speaker 1>she can sometimes fluctuate between seeming really happy and care

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<v Speaker 1>free to experiencing severe post traumatic stress, which can cause

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<v Speaker 1>her to shut down and just not engage. About an

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<v Speaker 1>hour before this scene, that is calm and relaxing. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually had tried to speak with Caitlyn in her room

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<v Speaker 1>with one of our producers, and for me as a journalist,

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<v Speaker 1>it was suddenly a very difficult moment with Caitlin.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know, Oh, okay, okay, are you tired?

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<v Speaker 1>No, She's giving me a very hard time with this interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlyn had shut down. She didn't want to talk to me,

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<v Speaker 1>she wouldn't answer any of my questions. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>felt her desire to push me out of her room,

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<v Speaker 1>and I knew that this wasn't just a ten year

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<v Speaker 1>old acting out. There was something much deeper happening here,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could see it. It was her trauma. A

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<v Speaker 1>year ago, on May twenty fourth, Caitlyn was inside her

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<v Speaker 1>fourth grade classroom at rob Elementary when an eighteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old gunman entered the building. He killed nineteen children and

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<v Speaker 1>two teachers, and he wounded seventeen others with an AR fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>a type of semi automatic rifle that's designed to kill

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people in a short period of time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a weapon of war. But Caitlyn wasn't at war.

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<v Speaker 1>She was in her fourth grade classroom across the hall

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<v Speaker 1>from the gunman. Many of her friends were killed. One

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<v Speaker 1>of them was Jackie Cassarees, Caitlyn's very best friend. It's

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<v Speaker 1>still hard for Caitlyn to talk about what happened at

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<v Speaker 1>rob Elementary. That's why we're outside and painting out in

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<v Speaker 1>the open and not confined in her small bedroom. I'm scared.

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<v Speaker 5>What if I get my hands sturdy? We'll just wash

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<v Speaker 5>our hands, Okay, how nover is my hands to paint?

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<v Speaker 1>Whiz? There's there's always a first starty And now she's

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<v Speaker 1>looking more relaxed and even happy. So tell me about BFF.

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<v Speaker 5>She is funny. Her lap was funny, she snorted.

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlyn and Jackie's friendship goes back to pre k while

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<v Speaker 1>she's painting. Kaitlyn now lights up as she talks to

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<v Speaker 1>me about her best friend and about how they met

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<v Speaker 1>at the playground.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, she was on a swing and her friends weren't

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<v Speaker 5>there that day, uh huh, and she was paying by herself.

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<v Speaker 5>So I asked her share to play with me and

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<v Speaker 5>she said yes, and then we kept talking.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever since that moment they met, they did everything together

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<v Speaker 1>in class, tiktoks, after school, facetimes, weekend hangouts, and summer

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<v Speaker 1>theater shows. Since Jackie's death, Caitlyn hasn't been the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Her parents, Gladys and Nef, have seen those changes firsthand.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's her mom, Gladys.

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<v Speaker 4>Since May twenty fourth, everything about our lives have changed.

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<v Speaker 4>She went from being pretty independent to one that now

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<v Speaker 4>has to share the bed with me because she's so

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<v Speaker 4>afraid of the darkness.

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<v Speaker 1>Gladys says, Caitlyn's always checking to see if the doors

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<v Speaker 1>and windows are locked.

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<v Speaker 4>As soon as our day is coming to an end,

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<v Speaker 4>she starts getting anxious and questioning me, mom, you are

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<v Speaker 4>going to sleep with me?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>And then there's the nightmares at least three times a week.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you just feel her whole body shake. It

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<v Speaker 4>takes a while for her to try to calm her down.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll follow her to the bed and just stay there.

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<v Speaker 1>This has become their new normal. Their family and community

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<v Speaker 1>have been scarred by loss and grief and trauma. Gladys

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<v Speaker 1>and Nef have been struggling to get mental health treatment

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<v Speaker 1>for Caitlin, something Texas Governor Greg Abbott promised to the

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<v Speaker 1>victims and their families. Many families also want to make

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<v Speaker 1>changes to gun laws in Texas. They don't want anyone

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<v Speaker 1>under the age of twenty one to be allowed to buy, sell,

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<v Speaker 1>or rent any firearm, including the assault style weapon used

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<v Speaker 1>by the shooter at Robin Lamentary. These efforts have been

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<v Speaker 1>anything but easy from futuro media and PRX. It's let

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<v Speaker 1>you know, USA, I'm Maria no Josa Today a year

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<v Speaker 1>after the massacre in Uvalde, Texas, we bring you a

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<v Speaker 1>story in collaboration with Futuro Investigates. Some of the reporting

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<v Speaker 1>for this episode is based on the PBS Frontline documentary

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<v Speaker 1>film After Uvalde, Guns, Brief and Texas Politics. For months now,

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<v Speaker 1>since the massacre, our team has been following a family

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<v Speaker 1>in their grieving, their healing, and their calls for change.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as I heard about the massacre in Uvalde,

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<v Speaker 1>which is about an hour away from the US Mexico border,

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<v Speaker 1>I became obsessed with the story. I had so many questions,

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<v Speaker 1>and since then there have been so many twists and

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<v Speaker 1>turns and so many unanswered questions. In the aftermath several

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<v Speaker 1>major developments and the investigation into the elementary school massacre

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<v Speaker 1>that left nineteen children and two teachers dead.

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<v Speaker 8>The most comprehensive report issue to date on Uvalve's mass

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<v Speaker 8>tragedy offers a scathing critique of all agencies linked to

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<v Speaker 8>the response. In the report's words, egregiously poor decision making.

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<v Speaker 9>It's disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes me nauseated.

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<v Speaker 10>They knew our kids were right behind that hallway and

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<v Speaker 10>that room. They were bleeding to death.

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<v Speaker 1>These inconsistencies have left families of the victims and survivors,

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<v Speaker 1>and the community at large angry with law enforcement and

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<v Speaker 1>their elected officials. Many of them are calling for gun

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<v Speaker 1>reform and a lasting and effective mental health system. In

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, we're going to learn how survivors of the

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<v Speaker 1>the massacre are navigating their trauma and a state where

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<v Speaker 1>guns are ingrained into the culture and where people's mental

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<v Speaker 1>health needs have been historically short changed.

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<v Speaker 11>I have to make snackbags for softball team tomorrow twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a school night, but you wouldn't necessarily know that

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<v Speaker 1>from all of the activity that's going on here at

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<v Speaker 1>the Gonzalez house. Gladys Gonzalez is busy making pancakes, Yes, pancakes.

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlin's shy seven year old sister Camilla sitting there quietly

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<v Speaker 1>with pink barettes in her hair, waiting to be served.

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<v Speaker 1>I visited Caitlin first in January, back when we were

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<v Speaker 1>painting together and playing with the zip line outside. But

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm back and it's a special evening. I was mad,

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<v Speaker 1>You mean you're not hungry? Oh, your mother does not play.

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<v Speaker 1>Gladys has chosen to make her very famous pancakes for

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlin Camilla, myself and my team. Okay, I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a pancake because i can't take it any longer. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take one from the middleby I don't know.

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<v Speaker 11>Zero.

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlyn is so vocal. I can tell that she likes

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<v Speaker 1>to be the boss here at her house. And frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>she's looking really relaxed, and she's being super open with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Pancakes for dinner. Do you know the last time I

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<v Speaker 1>had pancakes for dinner probably like maybe thirty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I was so excited. In fact, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>little taken aback by how talkative she is today, because

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<v Speaker 1>remember the first time we met, she shut down in

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<v Speaker 1>her bedroom and wouldn't speak with me. But I had

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<v Speaker 1>a question. How did the Gonzalez family end up in Uvalde.

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<v Speaker 1>So Gladys and Nev sat me down in their living

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<v Speaker 1>room and we decided to talk about that. They tell

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<v Speaker 1>me that they moved here around twenty fifteen, soon after

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlyn was born.

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<v Speaker 4>We just were driving one day and so we just said,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, Evadi seems like a nice town. We

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<v Speaker 4>just packed up our stuff and moved to you Audi.

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<v Speaker 1>Both Gladys and nev grew up in small towns along

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<v Speaker 1>the border.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we lived in San Antonio, it was a

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<v Speaker 2>faster pace of life for us. We had to adjust

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<v Speaker 2>to that. We just felt that whether it was we

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<v Speaker 2>just liked it and it was a slower pace of life.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a place where Caitlyn started to blossom.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a great student outler.

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<v Speaker 4>Caitlyn, did you finish your home?

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<v Speaker 1>Kiss?

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<v Speaker 2>Mom?

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, So she's always on top of things, always.

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlyn's parents have always seen so much potential in her.

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<v Speaker 1>Before the massacre, Caitlyn would talk about what she wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do when she got older.

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<v Speaker 4>She had talked about being a teacher, and then she

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<v Speaker 4>said that she wanted to move to la and join

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<v Speaker 4>like a dance she loves dancing, and then she also

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<v Speaker 4>talked about being a doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>But those dreams that Caitlyn had changed a year ago,

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<v Speaker 1>right after the mass shooting. That day, May twenty fourth

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<v Speaker 1>had started out, in fact as a very happy and

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<v Speaker 1>very special day. In the morning, there was an awards

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<v Speaker 1>ceremony at Caitlin's school.

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<v Speaker 4>So I dropped her off and she's she said, Mammy,

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<v Speaker 4>you better show up early and don't be late, and

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<v Speaker 4>maybe I should.

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<v Speaker 2>We should.

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<v Speaker 4>After awards ceremony, you can just sign me out and

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<v Speaker 4>we can go to Starbucks because that's her she loves Starcks.

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<v Speaker 4>And I said, we'll see Caitlyn.

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<v Speaker 1>She received several awards for library.

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<v Speaker 6>It's won money, yeah, and Caitlin Gonzalez.

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<v Speaker 1>Gladys remembers being so proud of her daughter and her friends.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember seeing Jackie and they were hugging and they

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<v Speaker 4>even took pictures. And she came up to me and

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<v Speaker 4>told me, hey, miss Gonsales, and she said, I really

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<v Speaker 4>love your pancakes and I miss them. And I said,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, on Saturday, I'll make you some and

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell Kylen to call you up so you can come.

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<v Speaker 4>She said really yes. I said yeah. And that was that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. They took their last picture and we went

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<v Speaker 4>off our waist.

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<v Speaker 1>Not even an hour later, Gladys and Neph received a

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<v Speaker 1>voice message on their cell phones.

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<v Speaker 12>Any rob Elementary parents, this phone call is for you.

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<v Speaker 12>Please know At this time rob Elementary is under a

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<v Speaker 12>lockdown status due to a gun Due to gunshots in

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<v Speaker 12>the area, The students of staff are safe in the building.

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<v Speaker 12>The building is secure in a line down.

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<v Speaker 1>Scattered when that happened, Nef, a licensed plumber, was working

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<v Speaker 1>at a nearby school. Turns out that all the schools

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<v Speaker 1>in went on lockdown. Both he and Gladys also received

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<v Speaker 1>text messages from the school saying the same thing. The

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<v Speaker 1>kids were safe, but Nef couldn't leave work to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Rob Elementary and confirm that Caitlin was Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I get this text and I believe it, right, I

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<v Speaker 2>believe this.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a few minutes later, Gladys got contradicting information.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I have a friend who caused me. He

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<v Speaker 4>tells me, you need to get to Rob. There's an

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<v Speaker 4>active shooter. And I just felt like like someone poured

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<v Speaker 4>cold water on me, and so I just left and

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<v Speaker 4>I went speeding to Rob.

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<v Speaker 1>Nef was still on lockdown. When Gladys arrived at the school.

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<v Speaker 1>There were cars every everywhere and law enforcement officers barricading

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<v Speaker 1>access to the school. She couldn't get to Caitlin.

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<v Speaker 4>They wouldn't let us pass. So there's people like crying

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of chaos. And so I was with

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<v Speaker 4>another friend. We were both crying and just hoping for

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<v Speaker 4>the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Both Gladys and Nef have been disappointed with the school

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<v Speaker 1>district's response during and since the shooting.

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<v Speaker 2>I live here, I worked for the school district. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just that I don't see them like I see them before.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't feel protected.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel protected at all.

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<v Speaker 1>When Nev speaks, I hear the sadness in his voice

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<v Speaker 1>now knowing that the children were not in fact safe.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what's so disappointing that pretty much that's when

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<v Speaker 2>the lives start and all the failures.

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<v Speaker 1>Several nine to one one calls came from students and

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<v Speaker 1>staff inside the school that afternoon. They showed what was

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<v Speaker 1>nally going on. The Texas Tribune obtained a copy of

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<v Speaker 1>those nine one.

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<v Speaker 12>One calls about a county number one.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello Mom, you hear me?

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<v Speaker 12>Sorry, there's a want to get by.

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<v Speaker 1>Officers arrived to the school almost immediately and initially approached

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<v Speaker 1>the classroom cautiously, but when the shooter fired, they realized

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<v Speaker 1>the gunman had an ar and then they retreated. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't breach the classroom for seventy seven minutes. We accessed

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<v Speaker 1>the footage of the responders during those seventy seven minutes

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<v Speaker 1>of waiting, first obtained by the Texas Tribune as part

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<v Speaker 1>of the reporting for the PBS Frontline documentary film After Valde, Guns,

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<v Speaker 1>Grief and Texas Politics. We're going to hear the moment

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<v Speaker 1>when law enforcement learns about the AR fifteen, and at

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<v Speaker 1>that moment we see them stop because the AR fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>is again a weapon of war, so the bullets are

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<v Speaker 1>capable of cutting through police officers standard bulletproof vests.

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<v Speaker 2>These are you know what kind young you know they

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<v Speaker 2>are here, they have a bottle y cytilizing.

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<v Speaker 5>Really, what's the safest way to do is I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>trying to get clapped out.

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<v Speaker 1>Gladys is grateful that her daughter was eventually rescued by officers,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's also been actively demanding more accountability from the

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<v Speaker 1>officers who waited seventy seven minutes to breach the classroom

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<v Speaker 1>where the shooter was.

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<v Speaker 4>But to those that just stood back did nothing, I

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<v Speaker 4>have lost our respect. Can't fathom the thought of just

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<v Speaker 4>standing by doing nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>When we come back, how Caitlin is calling out those

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<v Speaker 1>leaders in her own way. And later we meet the

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<v Speaker 1>descendants of a family who survived a massacre in Texas

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<v Speaker 1>more than one hundred years ago. We learned about their

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<v Speaker 1>connection to Uvalde and their long journey towards healing. Stay

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<v Speaker 1>with us nothing by Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is DeCarlo calling from Washington, DC, And I

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<v Speaker 3>remember exactly where I was when I first listened to

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<v Speaker 3>Latino USA. It was twenty fifteen and I was halfway

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<v Speaker 3>through my Peace Corps service in the Philippines, and listening

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<v Speaker 3>to Latino USA really made me feel seen and connected

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<v Speaker 3>to my Latin during a time in my life when

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<v Speaker 3>I was feeling very disconnected, and from that day I

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<v Speaker 3>was hooked.

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<v Speaker 1>Before the break, we heard how Caitlyn is doing since

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<v Speaker 1>the massacre. She has good days and bad days, and

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<v Speaker 1>her parents are navigating how to best heal from this

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<v Speaker 1>mass shooting. Part of that healing includes looking for the

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<v Speaker 1>right therapy treatment. But it's been harder than they anticipated.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get back to the story. Caitlyn started

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<v Speaker 1>speaking out soon after surviving the massacre, with a focus

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<v Speaker 1>on gun reform.

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<v Speaker 7>A school is a place where a teacher and charloud

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<v Speaker 7>should feel safe, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlin's first rally was in July of twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>when she and people from the community marched from rob

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<v Speaker 1>Elementary to the town square.

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<v Speaker 4>It went from just when invitation from Jacqueline's mom Hey, Caitlyn,

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<v Speaker 4>do you think you can speak at the at the rally,

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<v Speaker 4>and so she said yeah, sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Shortly after, Caitlyn took on Uvaldi Police Chief Pete Aredondo

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<v Speaker 1>at a school board meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>Last we have a miss Caitlin.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonzalez is one of the few officers who faced consequences

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<v Speaker 1>after the delayed response at rob Elementary. He's the man

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<v Speaker 1>many believed was in charge that day at the school,

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<v Speaker 1>though Aredondo said he never considered himself the incident commander.

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<v Speaker 7>I have messages for p Rnando and all the law

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<v Speaker 7>enforcements that were there that date. Hurning your badge and

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<v Speaker 7>stepped down. You don't deserve to wear one.

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<v Speaker 1>At that school board meeting, Aredondo was fired. Gladys and

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<v Speaker 1>f are in awe of their daughter's fearlessness.

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<v Speaker 4>I do you know she was going to say that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and we were all taken by surprise, the strength.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on for you? Tell me what you're feeling.

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<v Speaker 4>Just you know that I'm proud that is that she's

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<v Speaker 4>proud of her. You know that despite her the sadness,

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<v Speaker 4>she's shown resiliency and she's still trying to shine light

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<v Speaker 4>in the darkness.

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<v Speaker 1>Since that day at the school board meeting. Caitlyn has

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<v Speaker 1>spoken at about ten rallies and glad to say they've

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<v Speaker 1>actually received some pushback. People have accused them of coaching

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<v Speaker 1>their daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's just so far from the truth. With her speeches,

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<v Speaker 2>she does them all. We don't even we've tried to

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<v Speaker 2>prove freedom, she won't let us. It's very disrespectful for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I take it so offensive because I'm thinking, here's Kaylen.

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<v Speaker 2>She believes in something, and she's willing to go out

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<v Speaker 2>there and talk to people and try to convince people

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<v Speaker 2>about the way she feels. How many people have the

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<v Speaker 2>guts to do that, to get up in a podium

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<v Speaker 2>and talk, and at such a young age.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't help but wonder, though, if Caitlin's advocacy is

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<v Speaker 1>also rooted in a very particular response to her trauma.

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<v Speaker 4>She's a different person the day that I dropped her

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<v Speaker 4>off on May twenty fourth, and it's something that we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to have to deal with as a family together.

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<v Speaker 4>But at least we have her because other families aren't

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<v Speaker 4>as fortunate to be in the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon after the mass shooting, Texas Governor Greg Abbott announced

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<v Speaker 1>the opening of the Uvalde Together Resiliency Center, a temporary

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<v Speaker 1>mental health facility on the outskirts of Valde. Like many

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans in the state, Abbott blamed the massacre on mental health.

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<v Speaker 13>I asked the sheriff and others and got the same

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<v Speaker 13>answer from the sheriff as well as from the mayor

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<v Speaker 13>of Evality. The question was what is the problem here?

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<v Speaker 13>They said, we have a problem with mental health illness

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<v Speaker 13>in this community.

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<v Speaker 1>With just one psychiatrist in the town and no dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>mental health hospital or residential treatment center, Uvalde is a

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<v Speaker 1>mental health desert like many small towns in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>When did you realize that Caitlin needed therapy, that it

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<v Speaker 1>was not just going to be enough to hug her

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<v Speaker 1>And what did you decide to do then?

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<v Speaker 4>I'd say that same night, I knew she was going

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<v Speaker 4>to need help. And because I have experienced in mental

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<v Speaker 4>health I used to be a mental health caseworker children's caseworker,

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<v Speaker 4>I knew she was without a doubt going to need help.

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<v Speaker 1>In Uvalde, one in four residents live in poverty, which

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<v Speaker 1>is more than the national average. Over the last year,

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<v Speaker 1>Futuru Investigates has spoken in Uvalde with more than a

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<v Speaker 1>dozen people about the tragedy, the aftermath, and their grieving.

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<v Speaker 1>They said that it's difficult to find an affordable therapist

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<v Speaker 1>in town. The Resiliency Center was supposed to provide free,

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<v Speaker 1>ongoing mental health resources like crisis counseling and behavioral health

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<v Speaker 1>care for the community. Soon after that, Gladys and her

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<v Speaker 1>family realized the center wasn't equipped to meet the mental

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<v Speaker 1>health care needs of Caitlin and her younger sister, who's

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<v Speaker 1>also been scarred by the massacre. One morning, I find

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<v Speaker 1>myself driving around the edge of town. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>see the Uvalde Together Resiliency Center for myself, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty difficult to find. What I had been told is

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<v Speaker 1>that the Resiliency Center is part of the fair grounds. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm gonna turn into the fair grounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>When I turn, I don't see any signs. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a little lost. Okay, I'm gonna turn around. Maybe there's

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<v Speaker 1>a maybe there's a sign. In the distance. I see

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<v Speaker 1>two slim flags that say uval Distrong and Resiliency Center,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are no signs telling me how to get there. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>I see a small white tent and a sign on

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<v Speaker 1>a flimsy door that reads no media aloud. Near that tent,

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<v Speaker 1>there are also great portable offices. They looked like they've

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<v Speaker 1>been sliced out of a shipping container, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>where the actual therapy is going to take place. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not seeing any counselors. I'm not seeing any social workers.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I do see are two police cars. Each

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<v Speaker 1>container has a small rectangular window. At least right now,

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<v Speaker 1>from my feeling, it's not a kind of warm and

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<v Speaker 1>welcoming environment. It doesn't feel that way. In June of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two, less than a month after the massacre,

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<v Speaker 1>the Texas government announced more than one hundred million extra

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<v Speaker 1>dollars for school safety and mental health. About two of

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<v Speaker 1>every ten dollars went to mental health expenses. The rest

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<v Speaker 1>was allocated for buying shields, panic alerts, and new training

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<v Speaker 1>for police officers. Right now, the state has set aside

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<v Speaker 1>five million dollars to fund the resiliency center like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Officials have said it's a place where there is crisis counseling,

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<v Speaker 1>psychological first aid, and more. But for gladys, it's not working.

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<v Speaker 1>How much mental health access is there for the people

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<v Speaker 1>of Uvaldi.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very limited. And now since May twenty fourth, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you seek Governor abbed and all the Senate, our saint,

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to bring all this mental health and that's

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<v Speaker 4>all they talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it here?

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<v Speaker 4>I'd say it's definitely limited.

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<v Speaker 1>After the Resiliency center failed to work for Gladys, she

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<v Speaker 1>tried another free therapy, but here at this clinic, the

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<v Speaker 1>sessions happened only every other week, and Caitlin had to

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<v Speaker 1>share her hour of therapy with her mom and little sister,

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<v Speaker 1>which meant they had roughly fifteen minutes of therapy each.

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<v Speaker 1>Gladys thought, this free therapy from the state of Texas

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<v Speaker 1>is not counseling.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a slap to the face of that these kids,

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<v Speaker 4>because it's just how are you going to deal with

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<v Speaker 4>this enormous trauma and just be dealt with fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 4>of therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>She wants more from elected officials.

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<v Speaker 4>It shouldn't fall on us to go out and ask

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<v Speaker 4>for change, should come from them. I mean, they were

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<v Speaker 4>put in a position to demand change. The nact like it.

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<v Speaker 1>After these experiences, Gladys says, Caitlin's symptoms worsened. Finally, she

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<v Speaker 1>found a grief camp for Caitlin, she learned about a

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<v Speaker 1>promising treatment in therapy. It's known as EMDR, which stands

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<v Speaker 1>for Eye Movement, Desensitization and Reprocessing, is a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>psychotherapy meant to help people process the memories that trigger

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<v Speaker 1>their post traumatic stress disorder or PTSD, and it helps

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<v Speaker 1>them work through the trauma. The therapy is expensive, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Osals family spent seven months searching for a therapist

0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 1>who would take their insurance. During those months, they paid

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:18.720
<v Speaker 1>out of pocket without any further help from the state. Now,

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>the family travels once a week to San Antonio, which

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>is at least three hours round trip, because EMDR therapy

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>for children isn't offered in Uvalde.

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<v Speaker 4>No family should have to be traveling outside their local

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<v Speaker 4>vicinities for therapeutic acxis. It's just absurd to me.

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<v Speaker 1>While recently reporting in Texas, I sat down with the

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<v Speaker 1>CEO of the Resiliency Center. Her name is Mary Beth Fisk.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked her about what we had heard from people

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 1>like Ladys and other folks in Uvalde, and Mary Beth

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<v Speaker 1>says that EMDR is in fact available at the Resiliency Center,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's only offered for adults. What is your reaction

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<v Speaker 1>to me telling you that we know of at least

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 1>one family that is traveling to San Antonio with their

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 1>child on a weekly, bi weekly basis in order to

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>get the therapy that you say is available for them

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 1>in Valde.

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<v Speaker 9>If there's a child that's in need of EMDR therapy,

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<v Speaker 9>given that it's still in the experimental stages, we would

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 9>welcome an opportunity to talk with them about that and

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 9>to see if that's the best application for that child,

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 9>so that we can provide them the highest possible quality

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<v Speaker 9>of care.

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<v Speaker 1>I also ask her about the overall appearance of the location.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you see having a tent and these kind

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<v Speaker 1>of shipping container segments.

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<v Speaker 9>We've certainly been very anxious about moving into the brick

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 9>and mortar structure, and the good news is that on

0:31:57.200 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 9>May first we will be moving into the will be

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<v Speaker 9>newly renovated space.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. As somebody who has been in therapy,

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<v Speaker 1>I the last place I would want to be in

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<v Speaker 1>therapy is in a box of a shipping container kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in the middle of nowhere with some plastic chairs.

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 9>And the funding that we've been provided as it was

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 9>strictly the funding for the counselors themselves.

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 1>But the state of Texas has a thirty three billion

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 1>dollars surplus. I mean, from the outside, it's just like,

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't there be more?

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<v Speaker 9>We certainly hope, so, we certainly hope that they'll be

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<v Speaker 9>prioritization to take care of the community of Uvalde.

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 1>The new location opened the first week of May. This

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 1>lack of mental health services and the lingering effects of

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>trauma are something that another family in Uvalde has been

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with their entire lives. Sisters Emma Albarado and else

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<v Speaker 1>Ruth both were born and raised in Uvalde. Hi, you

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 1>have chickens too. The day I meet them, forty one

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>year old Elsie is wearing a long floral dress and

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 1>she's just given birth to her first child. Okay, did

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<v Speaker 1>you just have this baby?

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<v Speaker 12>I'm forty one years old and this is my five months.

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 10>You just turned five months today?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it your first?

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 2>My first?

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulation. Emma is a decade older than Elsie. Their opposites.

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<v Speaker 1>Emma is a little more reserved today. She's wearing a

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 1>button down beige blouse and slacks. Elsie is a stay

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 1>at home mom and Emma is a dyslexia teacher for

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>the Uvalde School District. Emma regularly worked at rob Elementary,

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 1>but she was off campus the day of the shooting.

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 1>She lost several students she knew. Emma has been finding

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>it hard to move on, and like Caitlin's family, she's

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 1>actively seeking help.

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<v Speaker 14>I reached out to a councilor during the summer and

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 14>it was more of a phone hyperconference counseling, and so

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 14>I kind of dropped that and I started group counseling

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 14>and that was with other people that were there that

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 14>they teachers.

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 1>The wild massacre impacted both sisters deeply. It's brought them

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 1>back to their family's own history of trauma after a

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:38.359
<v Speaker 1>violent event. Emma and Elsie are the granddaughters of Juan

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Monia Flordies, who grew up in Bourbenide, a small town

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>in West Texas on the US Mexico border. More than

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 1>one hundred years ago. In nineteen eighteen, the Texas Rangers,

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 1>a law enforcement group, went to the town of Bourbenide.

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:59.320
<v Speaker 1>They pointed their guns and murdered fifteen Mexican men and boys.

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<v Speaker 1>To the massacre, the Rangers tried to paint the victims

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:08.239
<v Speaker 1>as thieves, spies, and murderers. For years, there was no

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 1>accountability or scrutiny about the murders. One, the grandfather to

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 1>the two sisters, witnessed this massacre when he was just

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:18.919
<v Speaker 1>twelve years old.

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<v Speaker 14>He didn't share until in his nineties. My mom came

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 14>to understand. He would throw a lot and the trauma

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:33.279
<v Speaker 14>truly affected him.

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:35.839
<v Speaker 1>Emma says, when her mom found out about what had

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 1>happened to her dad, she made it a mission to

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<v Speaker 1>learn even more, all the way until her death from

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 1>cancer in twenty twenty one. Do you think your mom

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>became a little obsessed with what happened at buruined.

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:48.720
<v Speaker 2>I believe so. Yes.

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 14>She had books, she went to the library's universities to

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:55.320
<v Speaker 14>get information.

0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 1>The constant searching for answers consumed their mom's life, but

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 1>it was also a necessary way for her to better

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 1>understand her past. For Emma, a lot of emotions have

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 1>resurfaced since the Uvalde school shooting. Can you tell me

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 1>a little bit about how you have processed this in

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:14.280
<v Speaker 1>your own life?

0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 14>It hurts.

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:16.719
<v Speaker 2>It's always going to be.

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.840
<v Speaker 14>They're always going to be in my mind always, So

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 14>I'm pretty sure that's what my grandfather experienced in his

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:25.200
<v Speaker 14>mind all the time.

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 15>Your grandfather was twelve years old when he witnesses a

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 15>massacre in Texas, and the kids of Uvalde, several of

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:41.720
<v Speaker 15>them who you knew, and the survivors, are basically about

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:45.719
<v Speaker 15>the same age and having to witness and survive a

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 15>massacre in Texas.

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:48.360
<v Speaker 1>It's true.

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 14>And these kids, we need to watch and we need

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 14>to make sure that they're getting any help that they need.

0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 14>Because my grandfather didn't receive anything. You need nothing to

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:06.399
<v Speaker 14>help them cope with this, and so I know these

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 14>kids are gonna need a lot.

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Elsie, who is now raising a newborn, also wants to

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>see the community get the help they need to heal.

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 4>There's an echo in our community where they don't want

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:21.280
<v Speaker 4>to talk about it anymore.

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:23.719
<v Speaker 14>They don't want reporters here anymore.

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 1>And that's not right.

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:29.799
<v Speaker 4>You're shutting these families down and you're asking them to

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 4>forget about it and move on, and it does not

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:34.319
<v Speaker 4>work that way.

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Both Emma and Elsie also know that implementing strict gun

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 1>laws might be difficult to come by because the gun

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:46.320
<v Speaker 1>culture in Uvalde, in the whole state of Texas, really

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 1>is so ingrained into the community.

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 14>It's part of our economy. It helps provide jobs, it helps,

0:37:55.719 --> 0:38:00.120
<v Speaker 14>you know, put food on people's table.

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Elsie and Emma wondering about their grandfather and how trauma

0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 1>can be easily passed down from one generation to the next.

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I also think about what the families who survived the

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:15.360
<v Speaker 1>shooting in Uvalde are doing to keep motivated while demanding

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 1>gun reform and access to mental health services. Like ten

0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 1>year old Caitlin Gonzalez with all of her activism.

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 16>I saw, you know, the fire she has, you know,

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 16>to create a change. And the nice thing about what

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 16>I saw was that it really comes from the heart.

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 1>That's Lalo Castillo. He's seventy six years old. He's from

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Uvalde and he's been an activist for all of his life.

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 1>In fact, he was part of the Chicano movement that

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:54.759
<v Speaker 1>was born here in South Texas in the nineteen seventies.

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>That was when Mexican Americans were calling for labor and

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:01.800
<v Speaker 1>political rights. Lalo was also part of the historic school

0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 1>walk out in nineteen seventy. In fact, it happened at

0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:07.880
<v Speaker 1>rob elementary school.

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 16>We were punished for speaking Spanish and it was real

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 16>bad because you saw the teachers with the rulers you're

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:20.120
<v Speaker 16>not on the playground, and if they heard you, you know,

0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 16>they'd pick up your pants and powerty.

0:39:23.160 --> 0:39:24.400
<v Speaker 2>You know. It was horrible.

0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 16>We grew up, a lot of us grew up questioning,

0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:30.320
<v Speaker 16>you know, whether Spanish was bad.

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:34.319
<v Speaker 1>When one of the few Mexican and bilingual teachers in

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:38.760
<v Speaker 1>the district's contract was not renewed, students and their families

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 1>took a stand and walked out.

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:44.360
<v Speaker 16>And I'll just make it very brief, but it was

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 16>a challenge. It wasn't as easy as just okay, let's

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 16>walk out. We had I think our walkout was the

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 16>one that lasted the longest air in Texas and had

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 16>the whole country.

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Actually it's one of the longest.

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:03.239
<v Speaker 16>Walk yeah, yeah, and it was. It lasted six weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. Lalo is showing Caitlyn the ropes, the highs and

0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:10.799
<v Speaker 1>lows of what activism can actually be. He says he

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 1>saw her potential when Caitlyn first started to speak out

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 1>last year.

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 16>To have a child like Caitlin, that's what she does

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:21.800
<v Speaker 16>is nothing that can be taught. And so I saw

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 16>a future activist, a future leader. So I found my

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 16>way yet and I asked people, you know, who is she?

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 1>And since then, he's gotten a lot closer to Caitlyn.

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 16>Okay, it just happened. I've never planned to do any

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:42.399
<v Speaker 16>train in any nothing, and this little girl is point

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 16>too be either a good politician or whatever, but she's wonderful.

0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:54.360
<v Speaker 1>When we come back, we see Caitlyn in action, speaking

0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:58.800
<v Speaker 1>to her biggest audience yet outside the Texas capital in Austin,

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:01.359
<v Speaker 1>and we check into see how therapy is helping her

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:02.359
<v Speaker 1>stay with us.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, hi, Maria, this is MirOS Vargas. I love all

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:21.719
<v Speaker 6>your documental everything that you do in there. You have

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:25.400
<v Speaker 6>a fabulous boy and he really intrigues me to listen

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 6>to your programs. I really love your show. Congratulations on

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 6>you thirty years and paying for another thirty or forties?

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 6>Why not?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Latino, USA. I'm Maria Jojosa. When we

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 1>left off, we met La Loo Castillo, a longtime activist

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:49.480
<v Speaker 1>in Uvalde. He's been taking Caitlin, the ten year old

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 1>survivor of the massacre, under his wing, helping to shape

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:59.440
<v Speaker 1>her activism. Caitlyn is balancing therapy, school, extracurricular activities, and

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 1>speaking at rallies, and now she's ready to take on

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 1>a bigger stage. It's a busy day at the Texas

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:15.240
<v Speaker 1>Capitol Building in Austin. It's really hot outside, but hundreds

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 1>of people have gathered to rally. They marched for half

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 1>an hour to get here, and now people are standing

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 1>around a makeshift stage where there's a podium and a microphone.

0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Activists are supporting two bills that would increase the age

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:34.240
<v Speaker 1>limit to buy a semi automatic rifle like the AR fifteen,

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 1>from eighteen to twenty one. But there's one voice in

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 1>particular that I'm looking forward to hearing.

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<v Speaker 14>The out honor to introduce to you one of the

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 14>most super human human.

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Beings on the face of this.

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 7>Planet, Kaylon.

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Caitlin is so small that they set up a booster

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:08.879
<v Speaker 1>for her to step up too so she can reach

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 1>the microphones. She looks fearless, though she's wearing a white

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:19.279
<v Speaker 1>shirt that reads enough gun Violence. As always, Caitlin's hair

0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:22.880
<v Speaker 1>is slicked back into a ponytail, this time with a

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 1>red bow. Caitlin's brown skin glows under the Texas sun.

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Behind her are the photos of the twenty one lives

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 1>lost in Uvalde.

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 7>Good afternoon, my name is Kaylin Gonzalez. I have a

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 7>fourth grade rob elementary survivor from Vadi, Texas. On May

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:44.280
<v Speaker 7>twenty fourth, everything changed. I was at my awards harmony

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:48.160
<v Speaker 7>that day earlier before the shooting. As soon as we

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:51.839
<v Speaker 7>got to our class, we heard the gun shots. He Wobblenie,

0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:57.759
<v Speaker 7>he Wobblemnie.

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:03.240
<v Speaker 1>Even though uncovering this event as a journalist, as a mom,

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I was a little bit worried about Caitlin. There was

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 1>so much expectation leading up to this moment. It was

0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 1>so hot, she had been meeting the chanting, and so

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 1>in this moment, suddenly I react like a mom, encouraging

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Caitlyn to be strong. You gotta, Kaylan, take your time,

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Take your time. The rest of the crowd also cheers

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 1>her on and tries to comfort her. She pauses, takes

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:34.320
<v Speaker 1>a moment, and then continues.

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 11>He OpEd the doorknob.

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<v Speaker 5>He bains on my tour.

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<v Speaker 11>I remember in my best friend's screams, and I remember

0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 11>hugging her that morning. I hooked her and Eleanor at

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:49.920
<v Speaker 11>the Wards Many tutor. I will call her after school.

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:54.080
<v Speaker 11>I never go to the home, and I was watching

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:58.880
<v Speaker 11>the news. I saw that Eleanor was missing. I texted

0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:03.359
<v Speaker 11>Jackie Leanne is missing. Are you Okay. The next day

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<v Speaker 11>it contin news from my mom, the worst news in

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<v Speaker 11>any child.

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<v Speaker 17>She gets.

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<v Speaker 11>I shouldn't have to be here right now, but I

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:17.160
<v Speaker 11>am because my friends don't have a voice. No more, Greg,

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 11>I've has done nothing to predict me or my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Lala was standing behind Caitlyn during her speech. When you

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 1>see Caitlyn and you see how she talks when she's

0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:39.960
<v Speaker 1>addressing huge audiences, political audiences, what goes on for you?

0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 16>I admire her so much and got high hopes for her.

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 16>That the best thing is not only her capability and

0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:54.799
<v Speaker 16>her desire and her commitment, but the support that she

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:58.719
<v Speaker 16>gets from her parents. Her parents are one hundred and

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 16>pent behind her. But let's understand little culture. Okay, her

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:08.440
<v Speaker 16>parents have never been involved in politics. This is a

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:13.719
<v Speaker 16>natural born leader and there will work till the day

0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:18.080
<v Speaker 16>anything that I can to promote her or to help

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<v Speaker 16>her our advisor of whatever actually needs because she's.

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<v Speaker 2>A natural.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel that you are passing the torch as

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<v Speaker 1>an older activist from Muvaldi to the next generation.

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<v Speaker 16>Yes, yes, Vert Luxley.

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<v Speaker 1>Since the start of this year, there have been more

0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:49.600
<v Speaker 1>than two hundred mass shootings across the country and Caitlin

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:53.719
<v Speaker 1>continues speaking out. Most recently, she walked out of her

0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:58.240
<v Speaker 1>school with other classmates protesting another school shooting that happened

0:46:58.239 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 1>in Nashville.

0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:03.400
<v Speaker 7>Ni RANI.

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<v Speaker 2>What Hey long?

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:09.759
<v Speaker 1>But still no gun reform has been passed this legislative

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:13.439
<v Speaker 1>session in Texas, some lawmakers tried to pass the two

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 1>bills that would increase the age of assault rifle buyers.

0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:22.880
<v Speaker 1>One never made it to hearings. Governor Abbott has previously

0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 1>said that raising the age limit would be considered unconstitutional.

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:31.799
<v Speaker 1>As part of our investigation, we've repeatedly reached out to

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Governor Abbot's office for an interview, but those requests have

0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:42.920
<v Speaker 1>been rejected. In late April, the second bill had a

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:47.239
<v Speaker 1>committee hearing in the Texas Capital. Jackie's parents, Gloria and

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Javier Gasidz, were there. I met with them in the

0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:53.920
<v Speaker 1>hallways of the Capitol while they waited to give their testimony.

0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 1>What's it like to be in that room carrying the

0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:02.719
<v Speaker 1>pictures of Jackie knowing that they're people who completely opposed

0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:06.000
<v Speaker 1>your decision to want to raise the age.

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:11.120
<v Speaker 10>It's very hard, and it's just now you see your

0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:17.160
<v Speaker 10>your children, you see they're best friends' pictures and you

0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:22.920
<v Speaker 10>just don't understand why these kids and their teachers weren't enough. Now,

0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:25.359
<v Speaker 10>that's how I feel. It's that they weren't enough for you,

0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:27.959
<v Speaker 10>like they weren't enough for you to care.

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Does it feel like you're actually begging for them?

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<v Speaker 10>It does at times? It does.

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:33.759
<v Speaker 2>What does that do to you?

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:35.319
<v Speaker 3>A lot?

0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:36.040
<v Speaker 2>It does a lot.

0:48:36.480 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 10>We've met parents from different shootings, and a lot of

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:45.520
<v Speaker 10>them have been doing this for years, and we've only

0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:49.840
<v Speaker 10>been doing this for eleven months and we're exhausted. I

0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:51.640
<v Speaker 10>don't know how much more we can take.

0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:55.359
<v Speaker 1>They say they're not going to give up.

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<v Speaker 17>I'm made a promise with my daughter, and that promise

0:48:59.360 --> 0:49:03.120
<v Speaker 17>was to help change and then actually never break that promise.

0:49:06.360 --> 0:49:10.200
<v Speaker 1>The costad Is family and other survivors' families waited more

0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:15.239
<v Speaker 1>than twelve hours to be able to testify. Texas lawmakers

0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:22.759
<v Speaker 1>didn't hear from them until after nine pm.

0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:27.359
<v Speaker 17>My name is I've had cassadas for Vali, Texas. My daughter,

0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:33.400
<v Speaker 17>Jackie Costadis. I go back to the day seeing my

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:36.440
<v Speaker 17>daughter in her little white dress, laying in that coffin.

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:41.799
<v Speaker 17>My baby girl was full of life and love. She

0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:44.719
<v Speaker 17>never learned how to ride her bike, never made it

0:49:44.760 --> 0:49:49.440
<v Speaker 17>to the fifth grade. We'll never experienced her fifteenth birthday,

0:49:50.520 --> 0:49:55.200
<v Speaker 17>prom graduation from high school, college and becoming a vet,

0:49:55.680 --> 0:49:58.600
<v Speaker 17>visiting Paris, or even falling into love.

0:49:59.400 --> 0:50:00.160
<v Speaker 1>She was take and.

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<v Speaker 17>Nobody being a really murdered at nine years old along

0:50:05.680 --> 0:50:09.320
<v Speaker 17>with her eighteen classmates of two teachers. We're not here

0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:14.600
<v Speaker 17>to take anyone's guns away. I'm a gun owner. I

0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:17.799
<v Speaker 17>don't want you to see what I saw. I saw

0:50:17.840 --> 0:50:20.280
<v Speaker 17>a nine year old daughter draped in a white sheet,

0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:26.080
<v Speaker 17>cold and alone in an operating room. I saw the

0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:28.680
<v Speaker 17>wound that took her life. I don't want any of

0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:33.040
<v Speaker 17>y'all to see that. We needn't change these laws, be

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<v Speaker 17>on the right side of history.

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<v Speaker 1>After the hearing, the bill was approved in committee. It

0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:49.520
<v Speaker 1>was historic, but still not enough. The legislative session ended

0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and the bill was not brought up for a vote

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:56.760
<v Speaker 1>on the Senate or House floor. Texas lawmakers meet every

0:50:56.840 --> 0:51:00.920
<v Speaker 1>two years, so Jackie's parents might not see laws change

0:51:01.400 --> 0:51:07.120
<v Speaker 1>anytime soon, and since the massacre last year, there also

0:51:07.360 --> 0:51:12.240
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been substantive legislation to increase access to mental health

0:51:12.280 --> 0:51:24.400
<v Speaker 1>care across the state of Texas. Either I jump out

0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:27.000
<v Speaker 1>of the car and I see Caitlyn's little sister Camilla

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:30.560
<v Speaker 1>in the driveway. No, Camilla, I saw. It's been a

0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:32.600
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks since I last saw them at the

0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:41.920
<v Speaker 1>rally in Austin. What are you doing right now?

0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:44.480
<v Speaker 5>I'm doing Safa.

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<v Speaker 1>Camilla is throwing a ball at Caitlyn so that she

0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:51.680
<v Speaker 1>can swing at it with her bat. In fact, Caitlyn

0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:55.760
<v Speaker 1>has a big softball game coming up, and she's excited

0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:59.400
<v Speaker 1>about it and now wants to be called Caitlin the

0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Slider Gonzalez, Omila, don't.

0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:03.439
<v Speaker 5>Be afraid of the ball.

0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:06.560
<v Speaker 8>He hits you, hit you, hey.

0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:10.839
<v Speaker 1>Caitlyn's softball team is named the Purple Diamonds, and she's

0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:16.880
<v Speaker 1>practicing before the game. Whoa, she got it? Whoa, that

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:20.239
<v Speaker 1>is definitely a home run. That's what a home run

0:52:20.280 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 1>looks like. There she goes, yeah, what yeh? Who three?

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:28.160
<v Speaker 17>One up?

0:52:28.719 --> 0:52:29.000
<v Speaker 15>Five?

0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh, And she did the slide, she did the slot.

0:52:33.800 --> 0:52:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Who I've been with Caitlyn for just a few minutes,

0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:42.360
<v Speaker 1>and already I can sense that something is really different.

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:49.200
<v Speaker 1>She's open, she's present, she's playful, she's engaging me. Gladys

0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:53.440
<v Speaker 1>pulls me aside while Caitlyn continues practicing batting with Camilla

0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:55.560
<v Speaker 1>and she tells me she has some news.

0:52:56.440 --> 0:53:00.160
<v Speaker 4>She just broke it to me, like maybe two weeks ago,

0:53:00.360 --> 0:53:03.759
<v Speaker 4>that she wanted to sleep on her own. I mean

0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:08.279
<v Speaker 4>for nine months, I think we were sleeping together. Like

0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:11.080
<v Speaker 4>I said, okay, oh that's great. I didn't want to

0:53:11.120 --> 0:53:14.600
<v Speaker 4>make a big deal because I didn't want to say, oh,

0:53:14.640 --> 0:53:17.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm too excited to go back to my bedroom. It

0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:20.760
<v Speaker 4>was a mix of feelings, like she closed the door

0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:25.840
<v Speaker 4>behind her and I just you know, I got here.

0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Eyed what do you think happened?

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<v Speaker 4>I think the progress she's had with the MDR. Just

0:53:34.160 --> 0:53:36.040
<v Speaker 4>the fact that I'm not having to sleep by her

0:53:36.080 --> 0:53:40.880
<v Speaker 4>toes is big because I mean, I slept for nine months,

0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:43.240
<v Speaker 4>like on the edge of the bed.

0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:46.200
<v Speaker 1>So it's not good for you or your marriage.

0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:50.359
<v Speaker 4>For a long time, my husband and I were like roommates.

0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:53.560
<v Speaker 1>So how are you feeling about this all? Are you like?

0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:58.640
<v Speaker 1>This is good for now? But it might change because

0:53:58.719 --> 0:54:02.279
<v Speaker 1>I still think Caitlyn is pretty unpredictable.

0:54:02.640 --> 0:54:07.880
<v Speaker 4>Right I'm feeling optimistic and I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful for

0:54:08.000 --> 0:54:10.920
<v Speaker 4>the progress that she's made. I'm hopeful for the upcoming

0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:14.399
<v Speaker 4>progress she's going to continue making. We're just taking it

0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:17.960
<v Speaker 4>a day at a time. Every little step is a

0:54:18.000 --> 0:54:19.240
<v Speaker 4>big step in our eyes.

0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Glad It says, now that her daughters are situated with therapy,

0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:26.920
<v Speaker 1>it's her turn to take care of herself by finding

0:54:26.920 --> 0:54:27.839
<v Speaker 1>a therapist too.

0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:30.600
<v Speaker 4>I think a lot of it has to do with

0:54:30.840 --> 0:54:34.520
<v Speaker 4>pretty metro ayant scale. I mean, I grew up in

0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:37.480
<v Speaker 4>that household where it was like, you know, attend to

0:54:37.520 --> 0:54:40.760
<v Speaker 4>the kids and you know, leave yourself to the back burner.

0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:45.440
<v Speaker 4>And after May twenty fourth, it was quite honestly all

0:54:45.480 --> 0:54:48.960
<v Speaker 4>about Caitlin. Even Camilla, you know, was making sure that

0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:52.000
<v Speaker 4>she wasn't left to the side, and it was just

0:54:52.360 --> 0:55:00.719
<v Speaker 4>doing damage control. So now I'm having to reput, you know,

0:55:00.800 --> 0:55:03.840
<v Speaker 4>the pieces together, and so it's now my turn.

0:55:04.200 --> 0:55:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy to hear that. Gladys calls out to

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Caitlin and Camilla saying it's time to go inside. Now.

0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:17.480
<v Speaker 1>The Caitlin before my eyes is being a ten year

0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:20.040
<v Speaker 1>old girl, in fact one that's about to turn eleven.

0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:23.600
<v Speaker 1>She's laughing, she's playing, and a lot of it seems

0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:29.319
<v Speaker 1>to be because she's been getting help. How's the therapy going?

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<v Speaker 7>I sleep by myself?

0:55:32.120 --> 0:55:37.600
<v Speaker 1>What yes? This bed all to me? And when she

0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:38.520
<v Speaker 1>got my mom.

0:55:39.200 --> 0:55:40.520
<v Speaker 11>I have to show my sister.

0:55:40.800 --> 0:55:43.080
<v Speaker 1>That's a big step. Mama, what happened?

0:55:44.040 --> 0:55:45.800
<v Speaker 7>I tell my mama, by myself?

0:55:46.360 --> 0:55:48.240
<v Speaker 1>What made you feel like you can.

0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:51.000
<v Speaker 5>My friend theirself? And I want to sleep by myself?

0:55:51.200 --> 0:55:53.880
<v Speaker 1>So you just were like, I'm gonna deal with being afraid.

0:55:53.920 --> 0:55:55.960
<v Speaker 1>It's okay, I can handle it.

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<v Speaker 11>Yes.

0:55:58.400 --> 0:56:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Seeing Caitlyn move forward in this moment is really reassuring

0:56:03.080 --> 0:56:07.120
<v Speaker 1>because what she's doing as an advocate for her entire

0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:11.600
<v Speaker 1>town is tough. She needs moments like these to stay

0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:15.480
<v Speaker 1>grounded for the fight that lies ahead, the fight that

0:56:15.520 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 1>she's in for her friends that are no longer physically

0:56:19.640 --> 0:56:23.839
<v Speaker 1>here with her, and to get strength for that fight.

0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Caitlin often visits a place that's come to mean a

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:31.839
<v Speaker 1>lot for her, so she wanted to take me there.

0:56:35.719 --> 0:56:39.440
<v Speaker 1>The sun is setting over the beautiful South Texas sky.

0:56:40.280 --> 0:56:46.359
<v Speaker 1>It's massive. There are shades of pink, purple and orange everywhere.

0:56:47.239 --> 0:56:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Is this where you come to talk to Jackie? We're

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:55.719
<v Speaker 1>at the local cemetery in Uvalde. And I've been to

0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:58.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of cemeteries in my life, and I never

0:56:58.040 --> 0:57:01.040
<v Speaker 1>thought I would say this, but this cemetery in Uvalde

0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:08.120
<v Speaker 1>is the most beautiful cemetery I've ever seen. There's color

0:57:08.560 --> 0:57:15.439
<v Speaker 1>flowers everywhere, and now we're at Jackie's cemetery plot. Here

0:57:17.800 --> 0:57:22.640
<v Speaker 1>there we go, Okay, Caitlyn has brought a sparkler to light,

0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:26.920
<v Speaker 1>so we do that. Flashes of color and light sprout

0:57:26.960 --> 0:57:29.600
<v Speaker 1>from the tip as Caitlyn holds onto it. And then

0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:32.880
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, she's running around in circles around

0:57:33.160 --> 0:57:37.760
<v Speaker 1>Jackie's cemetery plot and she's laughing and smiling, and so

0:57:37.880 --> 0:57:41.800
<v Speaker 1>am I because this is a place where Caitlyn comes

0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:50.680
<v Speaker 1>to connect with Jackie. Now all I see is that

0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:56.280
<v Speaker 1>huge smile on Caitlyn's face, knowing that right now, right here,

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<v Speaker 1>in this moment, she's with her best friend, Jackie. Uvalde

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<v Speaker 4>Kellogg Foundation, a partner with Communities where Children Come First,

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<v Speaker 4>and the Tao Foundation.