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Speaker 1: Dear listener, The upcoming episode is about the Uvalde massacre.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of moments of joy and healing,

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Speaker 1: please take care. WHOA, Oh my gosh, okay, wait, I

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Speaker 1: totally want to do that. It's a cold and rainy

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Speaker 1: and gray day in late January in uval De, Texas.

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Speaker 1: But this weather is not stopping ten year old Caitlin

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Speaker 1: It's attached to two trees on opposite ends of the yard.

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Speaker 1: And well, I've never done this before. Do I have

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Speaker 1: Really? Caitlyn looks like she's flying through her backyard. Her

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Speaker 1: She's bursting with energy. And well, she's very insistent that

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Speaker 1: Are you sure?

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Speaker 1: I not feeling so good about this? And yeah, I'm nervous,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is so fun. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: What do I do? Her parents, Gladys and Neftali who

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Speaker 1: We're doing abstract painting as a way to heal and

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Speaker 1: year ago, on May twenty fourth, Caitlyn was inside her

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Speaker 1: for Caitlin, something Texas Governor Greg Abbott promised to the

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Speaker 1: you know, USA, I'm Maria no Josa Today a year

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Speaker 1: after the massacre in Uvalde, Texas, we bring you a

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Speaker 1: film After Uvalde, Guns, Brief and Texas Politics. For months now,

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Speaker 1: since the massacre, our team has been following a family

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Speaker 1: As soon as I heard about the massacre in Uvalde,

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Speaker 8: The most comprehensive report issue to date on Uvalve's mass

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Speaker 8: tragedy offers a scathing critique of all agencies linked to

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Speaker 8: the response. In the report's words, egregiously poor decision making.

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Speaker 9: It's disgusting.

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Speaker 1: It makes me nauseated.

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Speaker 1: It's a school night, but you wouldn't necessarily know that

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Speaker 1: I visited Caitlin first in January, back when we were

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Speaker 1: Caitlyn is so vocal. I can tell that she likes

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Speaker 1: And it was a place where Caitlyn started to blossom.

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Speaker 1: She was a great student outler.

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Speaker 1: Caitlyn's parents have always seen so much potential in her.

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Speaker 1: Before the massacre, Caitlyn would talk about what she wanted

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Speaker 1: But those dreams that Caitlyn had changed a year ago,

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Speaker 1: She received several awards for library.

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Speaker 6: It's won money, yeah, and Caitlin Gonzalez.

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Speaker 1: Gladys remembers being so proud of her daughter and her friends.

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Speaker 1: Just a few minutes later, Gladys got contradicting information.

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Speaker 1: Both Gladys and Nef have been disappointed with the school

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Speaker 1: Officers arrived to the school almost immediately and initially approached

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Speaker 5: Really, what's the safest way to do is I'm not

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Speaker 1: Gladys is grateful that her daughter was eventually rescued by officers,

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Speaker 4: But to those that just stood back did nothing, I

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Speaker 1: When we come back, how Caitlin is calling out those

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Speaker 3: My name is DeCarlo calling from Washington, DC, And I

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Speaker 1: Before the break, we heard how Caitlyn is doing since

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to the story. Caitlyn started

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Speaker 1: Caitlin's first rally was in July of twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 4: It went from just when invitation from Jacqueline's mom Hey, Caitlyn,

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Speaker 2: Last we have a miss Caitlin.

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Speaker 1: Gonzalez is one of the few officers who faced consequences

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Speaker 1: At that school board meeting, Aredondo was fired. Gladys and

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Speaker 1: What's going on for you? Tell me what you're feeling.

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Speaker 4: Just you know that I'm proud that is that she's

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Speaker 2: And that's just so far from the truth. With her speeches,

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Speaker 1: Soon after the mass shooting, Texas Governor Greg Abbott announced

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Speaker 1: With just one psychiatrist in the town and no dedicated

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Speaker 1: When did you realize that Caitlin needed therapy, that it

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Speaker 4: I'd say that same night, I knew she was going

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Speaker 1: Officials have said it's a place where there is crisis counseling,

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Speaker 4: It's very limited. And now since May twenty fourth, you know,

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Speaker 4: We're going to bring all this mental health and that's

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Speaker 1: After the Resiliency center failed to work for Gladys, she

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Speaker 1: tried another free therapy, but here at this clinic, the

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Speaker 1: sessions happened only every other week, and Caitlin had to

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Speaker 1: share her hour of therapy with her mom and little sister,

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Speaker 1: which meant they had roughly fifteen minutes of therapy each.

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Speaker 1: Gladys thought, this free therapy from the state of Texas

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Speaker 1: is not counseling.

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Speaker 4: That's a slap to the face of that these kids,

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Speaker 4: because it's just how are you going to deal with

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Speaker 4: this enormous trauma and just be dealt with fifteen minutes

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Speaker 4: of therapy.

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Speaker 1: She wants more from elected officials.

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Speaker 4: It shouldn't fall on us to go out and ask

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Speaker 4: for change, should come from them. I mean, they were

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Speaker 4: put in a position to demand change. The nact like it.

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Speaker 1: After these experiences, Gladys says, Caitlin's symptoms worsened. Finally, she

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Speaker 1: found a grief camp for Caitlin, she learned about a

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Speaker 1: promising treatment in therapy. It's known as EMDR, which stands

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Speaker 1: for Eye Movement, Desensitization and Reprocessing, is a kind of

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Speaker 1: psychotherapy meant to help people process the memories that trigger

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Speaker 1: their post traumatic stress disorder or PTSD, and it helps

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Speaker 1: them work through the trauma. The therapy is expensive, and

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Speaker 1: the Osals family spent seven months searching for a therapist

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Speaker 1: who would take their insurance. During those months, they paid

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Speaker 1: out of pocket without any further help from the state. Now,

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Speaker 1: the family travels once a week to San Antonio, which

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Speaker 1: is at least three hours round trip, because EMDR therapy

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Speaker 1: for children isn't offered in Uvalde.

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Speaker 4: No family should have to be traveling outside their local

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Speaker 4: vicinities for therapeutic acxis. It's just absurd to me.

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Speaker 1: While recently reporting in Texas, I sat down with the

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Speaker 1: CEO of the Resiliency Center. Her name is Mary Beth Fisk.

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Speaker 1: I asked her about what we had heard from people

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Speaker 1: like Ladys and other folks in Uvalde, and Mary Beth

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Speaker 1: says that EMDR is in fact available at the Resiliency Center,

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Speaker 1: but it's only offered for adults. What is your reaction

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Speaker 1: to me telling you that we know of at least

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Speaker 1: one family that is traveling to San Antonio with their

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Speaker 1: child on a weekly, bi weekly basis in order to

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Speaker 1: get the therapy that you say is available for them

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Speaker 1: in Valde.

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Speaker 9: If there's a child that's in need of EMDR therapy,

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Speaker 9: given that it's still in the experimental stages, we would

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Speaker 9: welcome an opportunity to talk with them about that and

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Speaker 9: to see if that's the best application for that child,

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Speaker 9: so that we can provide them the highest possible quality

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Speaker 9: of care.

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Speaker 1: I also ask her about the overall appearance of the location.

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Speaker 1: How do you see having a tent and these kind

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Speaker 1: of shipping container segments.

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Speaker 9: We've certainly been very anxious about moving into the brick

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Speaker 9: and mortar structure, and the good news is that on

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Speaker 9: May first we will be moving into the will be

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Speaker 9: newly renovated space.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. As somebody who has been in therapy,

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Speaker 1: I the last place I would want to be in

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Speaker 1: therapy is in a box of a shipping container kind

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Speaker 1: of in the middle of nowhere with some plastic chairs.

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Speaker 9: And the funding that we've been provided as it was

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Speaker 9: strictly the funding for the counselors themselves.

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Speaker 1: But the state of Texas has a thirty three billion

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Speaker 1: dollars surplus. I mean, from the outside, it's just like,

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Speaker 1: shouldn't there be more?

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Speaker 9: We certainly hope, so, we certainly hope that they'll be

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Speaker 9: prioritization to take care of the community of Uvalde.

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Speaker 1: The new location opened the first week of May. This

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Speaker 1: lack of mental health services and the lingering effects of

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Speaker 1: trauma are something that another family in Uvalde has been

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Speaker 1: dealing with their entire lives. Sisters Emma Albarado and else

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Speaker 1: Ruth both were born and raised in Uvalde. Hi, you

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Speaker 1: have chickens too. The day I meet them, forty one

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Speaker 1: year old Elsie is wearing a long floral dress and

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Speaker 1: she's just given birth to her first child. Okay, did

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Speaker 1: you just have this baby?

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Speaker 12: I'm forty one years old and this is my five months.

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Speaker 10: You just turned five months today?

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Speaker 1: Is it your first?

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Speaker 2: My first?

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Speaker 1: Congratulation. Emma is a decade older than Elsie. Their opposites.

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Speaker 1: Emma is a little more reserved today. She's wearing a

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Speaker 1: button down beige blouse and slacks. Elsie is a stay

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Speaker 1: at home mom and Emma is a dyslexia teacher for

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Speaker 1: the Uvalde School District. Emma regularly worked at rob Elementary,

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Speaker 1: but she was off campus the day of the shooting.

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Speaker 1: She lost several students she knew. Emma has been finding

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Speaker 1: it hard to move on, and like Caitlin's family, she's

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Speaker 1: actively seeking help.

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Speaker 14: I reached out to a councilor during the summer and

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Speaker 14: it was more of a phone hyperconference counseling, and so

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Speaker 14: I kind of dropped that and I started group counseling

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Speaker 14: and that was with other people that were there that

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Speaker 14: they teachers.

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Speaker 1: The wild massacre impacted both sisters deeply. It's brought them

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Speaker 1: back to their family's own history of trauma after a

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Speaker 1: violent event. Emma and Elsie are the granddaughters of Juan

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Speaker 1: Monia Flordies, who grew up in Bourbenide, a small town

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Speaker 1: in West Texas on the US Mexico border. More than

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Speaker 1: one hundred years ago. In nineteen eighteen, the Texas Rangers,

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Speaker 1: a law enforcement group, went to the town of Bourbenide.

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Speaker 1: They pointed their guns and murdered fifteen Mexican men and boys.

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Speaker 1: To the massacre, the Rangers tried to paint the victims

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Speaker 1: as thieves, spies, and murderers. For years, there was no

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Speaker 1: accountability or scrutiny about the murders. One, the grandfather to

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Speaker 1: the two sisters, witnessed this massacre when he was just

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Speaker 1: twelve years old.

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Speaker 14: He didn't share until in his nineties. My mom came

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Speaker 14: to understand. He would throw a lot and the trauma

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Speaker 14: truly affected him.

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Speaker 1: Emma says, when her mom found out about what had

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Speaker 1: happened to her dad, she made it a mission to

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Speaker 1: learn even more, all the way until her death from

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Speaker 1: cancer in twenty twenty one. Do you think your mom

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Speaker 1: became a little obsessed with what happened at buruined.

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Speaker 2: I believe so. Yes.

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Speaker 14: She had books, she went to the library's universities to

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Speaker 14: get information.

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Speaker 1: The constant searching for answers consumed their mom's life, but

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Speaker 1: it was also a necessary way for her to better

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Speaker 1: understand her past. For Emma, a lot of emotions have

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Speaker 1: resurfaced since the Uvalde school shooting. Can you tell me

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Speaker 1: a little bit about how you have processed this in

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Speaker 1: your own life?

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Speaker 14: It hurts.

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Speaker 2: It's always going to be.

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Speaker 14: They're always going to be in my mind always, So

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Speaker 14: I'm pretty sure that's what my grandfather experienced in his

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Speaker 14: mind all the time.

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Speaker 15: Your grandfather was twelve years old when he witnesses a

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Speaker 15: massacre in Texas, and the kids of Uvalde, several of

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Speaker 15: them who you knew, and the survivors, are basically about

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Speaker 15: the same age and having to witness and survive a

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Speaker 15: massacre in Texas.

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Speaker 1: It's true.

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Speaker 14: And these kids, we need to watch and we need

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Speaker 14: to make sure that they're getting any help that they need.

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Speaker 14: Because my grandfather didn't receive anything. You need nothing to

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Speaker 14: help them cope with this, and so I know these

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Speaker 14: kids are gonna need a lot.

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Speaker 1: Elsie, who is now raising a newborn, also wants to

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Speaker 1: see the community get the help they need to heal.

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Speaker 4: There's an echo in our community where they don't want

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Speaker 4: to talk about it anymore.

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Speaker 14: They don't want reporters here anymore.

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Speaker 1: And that's not right.

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Speaker 4: You're shutting these families down and you're asking them to

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Speaker 4: forget about it and move on, and it does not

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Speaker 4: work that way.

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Speaker 1: Both Emma and Elsie also know that implementing strict gun

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Speaker 1: laws might be difficult to come by because the gun

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Speaker 1: culture in Uvalde, in the whole state of Texas, really

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Speaker 1: is so ingrained into the community.

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Speaker 14: It's part of our economy. It helps provide jobs, it helps,

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Speaker 14: you know, put food on people's table.

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Speaker 1: Elsie and Emma wondering about their grandfather and how trauma

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Speaker 1: can be easily passed down from one generation to the next.

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Speaker 1: I also think about what the families who survived the

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Speaker 1: shooting in Uvalde are doing to keep motivated while demanding

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Speaker 1: gun reform and access to mental health services. Like ten

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Speaker 1: year old Caitlin Gonzalez with all of her activism.

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Speaker 16: I saw, you know, the fire she has, you know,

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Speaker 16: to create a change. And the nice thing about what

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Speaker 16: I saw was that it really comes from the heart.

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Speaker 1: That's Lalo Castillo. He's seventy six years old. He's from

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Speaker 1: Uvalde and he's been an activist for all of his life.

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Speaker 1: In fact, he was part of the Chicano movement that

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Speaker 1: was born here in South Texas in the nineteen seventies.

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Speaker 1: That was when Mexican Americans were calling for labor and

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Speaker 1: political rights. Lalo was also part of the historic school

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Speaker 1: walk out in nineteen seventy. In fact, it happened at

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Speaker 1: rob elementary school.

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Speaker 16: We were punished for speaking Spanish and it was real

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Speaker 16: bad because you saw the teachers with the rulers you're

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Speaker 16: not on the playground, and if they heard you, you know,

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Speaker 16: they'd pick up your pants and powerty.

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Speaker 2: You know. It was horrible.

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Speaker 16: We grew up, a lot of us grew up questioning,

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Speaker 16: you know, whether Spanish was bad.

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Speaker 1: When one of the few Mexican and bilingual teachers in

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Speaker 1: the district's contract was not renewed, students and their families

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Speaker 1: took a stand and walked out.

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Speaker 16: And I'll just make it very brief, but it was

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Speaker 16: a challenge. It wasn't as easy as just okay, let's

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Speaker 16: walk out. We had I think our walkout was the

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Speaker 16: one that lasted the longest air in Texas and had

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Speaker 16: the whole country.

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Speaker 1: Actually it's one of the longest.

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Speaker 16: Walk yeah, yeah, and it was. It lasted six weeks.

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Speaker 1: Now. Lalo is showing Caitlyn the ropes, the highs and

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Speaker 1: lows of what activism can actually be. He says he

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Speaker 1: saw her potential when Caitlyn first started to speak out

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Speaker 1: last year.

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Speaker 16: To have a child like Caitlin, that's what she does

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Speaker 16: is nothing that can be taught. And so I saw

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Speaker 16: a future activist, a future leader. So I found my

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Speaker 16: way yet and I asked people, you know, who is she?

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Speaker 1: And since then, he's gotten a lot closer to Caitlyn.

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Speaker 16: Okay, it just happened. I've never planned to do any

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Speaker 16: train in any nothing, and this little girl is point

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Speaker 16: too be either a good politician or whatever, but she's wonderful.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we see Caitlyn in action, speaking

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Speaker 1: to her biggest audience yet outside the Texas capital in Austin,

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Speaker 1: and we check into see how therapy is helping her

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Speaker 1: stay with us.

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Speaker 6: Yes, hi, Maria, this is MirOS Vargas. I love all

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Speaker 6: your documental everything that you do in there. You have

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Speaker 6: a fabulous boy and he really intrigues me to listen

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Speaker 6: to your programs. I really love your show. Congratulations on

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Speaker 6: you thirty years and paying for another thirty or forties?

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Speaker 6: Why not?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Latino, USA. I'm Maria Jojosa. When we

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Speaker 1: left off, we met La Loo Castillo, a longtime activist

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Speaker 1: in Uvalde. He's been taking Caitlin, the ten year old

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Speaker 1: survivor of the massacre, under his wing, helping to shape

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Speaker 1: her activism. Caitlyn is balancing therapy, school, extracurricular activities, and

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Speaker 1: speaking at rallies, and now she's ready to take on

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Speaker 1: a bigger stage. It's a busy day at the Texas

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Speaker 1: Capitol Building in Austin. It's really hot outside, but hundreds

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Speaker 1: of people have gathered to rally. They marched for half

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Speaker 1: an hour to get here, and now people are standing

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Speaker 1: around a makeshift stage where there's a podium and a microphone.

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Speaker 1: Activists are supporting two bills that would increase the age

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Speaker 1: limit to buy a semi automatic rifle like the AR fifteen,

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Speaker 1: from eighteen to twenty one. But there's one voice in

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Speaker 1: particular that I'm looking forward to hearing.

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Speaker 14: The out honor to introduce to you one of the

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Speaker 14: most super human human.

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Speaker 2: Beings on the face of this.

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Speaker 7: Planet, Kaylon.

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Speaker 1: Caitlin is so small that they set up a booster

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Speaker 1: for her to step up too so she can reach

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Speaker 1: the microphones. She looks fearless, though she's wearing a white

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00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: shirt that reads enough gun Violence. As always, Caitlin's hair

671
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: is slicked back into a ponytail, this time with a

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Speaker 1: red bow. Caitlin's brown skin glows under the Texas sun.

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Speaker 1: Behind her are the photos of the twenty one lives

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Speaker 1: lost in Uvalde.

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Speaker 7: Good afternoon, my name is Kaylin Gonzalez. I have a

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Speaker 7: fourth grade rob elementary survivor from Vadi, Texas. On May

677
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Speaker 7: twenty fourth, everything changed. I was at my awards harmony

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Speaker 7: that day earlier before the shooting. As soon as we

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Speaker 7: got to our class, we heard the gun shots. He Wobblenie,

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Speaker 7: he Wobblemnie.

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Speaker 1: Even though uncovering this event as a journalist, as a mom,

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Speaker 1: I was a little bit worried about Caitlin. There was

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Speaker 1: so much expectation leading up to this moment. It was

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Speaker 1: so hot, she had been meeting the chanting, and so

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Speaker 1: in this moment, suddenly I react like a mom, encouraging

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Speaker 1: Caitlyn to be strong. You gotta, Kaylan, take your time,

687
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Speaker 1: Take your time. The rest of the crowd also cheers

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Speaker 1: her on and tries to comfort her. She pauses, takes

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Speaker 1: a moment, and then continues.

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Speaker 11: He OpEd the doorknob.

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Speaker 5: He bains on my tour.

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Speaker 11: I remember in my best friend's screams, and I remember

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Speaker 11: hugging her that morning. I hooked her and Eleanor at

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Speaker 11: the Wards Many tutor. I will call her after school.

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Speaker 11: I never go to the home, and I was watching

696
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Speaker 11: the news. I saw that Eleanor was missing. I texted

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00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 11: Jackie Leanne is missing. Are you Okay. The next day

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Speaker 11: it contin news from my mom, the worst news in

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Speaker 11: any child.

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Speaker 17: She gets.

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Speaker 11: I shouldn't have to be here right now, but I

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Speaker 11: am because my friends don't have a voice. No more, Greg,

703
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Speaker 11: I've has done nothing to predict me or my friends.

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Speaker 1: Lala was standing behind Caitlyn during her speech. When you

705
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: see Caitlyn and you see how she talks when she's

706
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: addressing huge audiences, political audiences, what goes on for you?

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Speaker 16: I admire her so much and got high hopes for her.

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00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 16: That the best thing is not only her capability and

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Speaker 16: her desire and her commitment, but the support that she

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Speaker 16: gets from her parents. Her parents are one hundred and

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Speaker 16: pent behind her. But let's understand little culture. Okay, her

712
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 16: parents have never been involved in politics. This is a

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Speaker 16: natural born leader and there will work till the day

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Speaker 16: anything that I can to promote her or to help

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Speaker 16: her our advisor of whatever actually needs because she's.

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Speaker 2: A natural.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel that you are passing the torch as

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Speaker 1: an older activist from Muvaldi to the next generation.

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Speaker 16: Yes, yes, Vert Luxley.

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Speaker 1: Since the start of this year, there have been more

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Speaker 1: than two hundred mass shootings across the country and Caitlin

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Speaker 1: continues speaking out. Most recently, she walked out of her

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Speaker 1: school with other classmates protesting another school shooting that happened

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Speaker 1: in Nashville.

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Speaker 7: Ni RANI.

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Speaker 2: What Hey long?

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Speaker 1: But still no gun reform has been passed this legislative

728
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 1: session in Texas, some lawmakers tried to pass the two

729
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Speaker 1: bills that would increase the age of assault rifle buyers.

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Speaker 1: One never made it to hearings. Governor Abbott has previously

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Speaker 1: said that raising the age limit would be considered unconstitutional.

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Speaker 1: As part of our investigation, we've repeatedly reached out to

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Speaker 1: Governor Abbot's office for an interview, but those requests have

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Speaker 1: been rejected. In late April, the second bill had a

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Speaker 1: committee hearing in the Texas Capital. Jackie's parents, Gloria and

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Speaker 1: Javier Gasidz, were there. I met with them in the

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Speaker 1: hallways of the Capitol while they waited to give their testimony.

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Speaker 1: What's it like to be in that room carrying the

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Speaker 1: pictures of Jackie knowing that they're people who completely opposed

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Speaker 1: your decision to want to raise the age.

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Speaker 10: It's very hard, and it's just now you see your

742
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 10: your children, you see they're best friends' pictures and you

743
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 10: just don't understand why these kids and their teachers weren't enough. Now,

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Speaker 10: that's how I feel. It's that they weren't enough for you,

745
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Speaker 10: like they weren't enough for you to care.

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Speaker 1: Does it feel like you're actually begging for them?

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Speaker 10: It does at times? It does.

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Speaker 2: What does that do to you?

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Speaker 3: A lot?

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Speaker 2: It does a lot.

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Speaker 10: We've met parents from different shootings, and a lot of

752
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 10: them have been doing this for years, and we've only

753
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 10: been doing this for eleven months and we're exhausted. I

754
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 10: don't know how much more we can take.

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Speaker 1: They say they're not going to give up.

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Speaker 17: I'm made a promise with my daughter, and that promise

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Speaker 17: was to help change and then actually never break that promise.

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Speaker 1: The costad Is family and other survivors' families waited more

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Speaker 1: than twelve hours to be able to testify. Texas lawmakers

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Speaker 1: didn't hear from them until after nine pm.

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Speaker 17: My name is I've had cassadas for Vali, Texas. My daughter,

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Speaker 17: Jackie Costadis. I go back to the day seeing my

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Speaker 17: daughter in her little white dress, laying in that coffin.

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Speaker 17: My baby girl was full of life and love. She

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Speaker 17: never learned how to ride her bike, never made it

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Speaker 17: to the fifth grade. We'll never experienced her fifteenth birthday,

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Speaker 17: prom graduation from high school, college and becoming a vet,

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Speaker 17: visiting Paris, or even falling into love.

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Speaker 1: She was take and.

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Speaker 17: Nobody being a really murdered at nine years old along

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Speaker 17: with her eighteen classmates of two teachers. We're not here

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Speaker 17: to take anyone's guns away. I'm a gun owner. I

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Speaker 17: don't want you to see what I saw. I saw

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Speaker 17: a nine year old daughter draped in a white sheet,

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Speaker 17: cold and alone in an operating room. I saw the

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Speaker 17: wound that took her life. I don't want any of

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Speaker 17: y'all to see that. We needn't change these laws, be

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Speaker 17: on the right side of history.

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Speaker 1: After the hearing, the bill was approved in committee. It

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Speaker 1: was historic, but still not enough. The legislative session ended

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Speaker 1: and the bill was not brought up for a vote

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Speaker 1: on the Senate or House floor. Texas lawmakers meet every

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Speaker 1: two years, so Jackie's parents might not see laws change

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Speaker 1: anytime soon, and since the massacre last year, there also

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Speaker 1: hasn't been substantive legislation to increase access to mental health

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00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: care across the state of Texas. Either I jump out

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Speaker 1: of the car and I see Caitlyn's little sister Camilla

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Speaker 1: in the driveway. No, Camilla, I saw. It's been a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks since I last saw them at the

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Speaker 1: rally in Austin. What are you doing right now?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing Safa.

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Speaker 1: Camilla is throwing a ball at Caitlyn so that she

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Speaker 1: can swing at it with her bat. In fact, Caitlyn

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Speaker 1: has a big softball game coming up, and she's excited

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Speaker 1: about it and now wants to be called Caitlin the

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Speaker 1: Slider Gonzalez, Omila, don't.

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Speaker 5: Be afraid of the ball.

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Speaker 8: He hits you, hit you, hey.

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Speaker 1: Caitlyn's softball team is named the Purple Diamonds, and she's

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Speaker 1: practicing before the game. Whoa, she got it? Whoa, that

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Speaker 1: is definitely a home run. That's what a home run

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00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: looks like. There she goes, yeah, what yeh? Who three?

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Speaker 17: One up?

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Speaker 15: Five?

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Speaker 1: Oh, And she did the slide, she did the slot.

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Speaker 1: Who I've been with Caitlyn for just a few minutes,

807
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Speaker 1: and already I can sense that something is really different.

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00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: She's open, she's present, she's playful, she's engaging me. Gladys

809
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: pulls me aside while Caitlyn continues practicing batting with Camilla

810
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: and she tells me she has some news.

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Speaker 4: She just broke it to me, like maybe two weeks ago,

812
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 4: that she wanted to sleep on her own. I mean

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Speaker 4: for nine months, I think we were sleeping together. Like

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Speaker 4: I said, okay, oh that's great. I didn't want to

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Speaker 4: make a big deal because I didn't want to say, oh,

816
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 4: I'm too excited to go back to my bedroom. It

817
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 4: was a mix of feelings, like she closed the door

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Speaker 4: behind her and I just you know, I got here.

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Speaker 1: Eyed what do you think happened?

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Speaker 4: I think the progress she's had with the MDR. Just

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Speaker 4: the fact that I'm not having to sleep by her

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00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 4: toes is big because I mean, I slept for nine months,

823
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Speaker 4: like on the edge of the bed.

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Speaker 1: So it's not good for you or your marriage.

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Speaker 4: For a long time, my husband and I were like roommates.

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Speaker 1: So how are you feeling about this all? Are you like?

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Speaker 1: This is good for now? But it might change because

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Speaker 1: I still think Caitlyn is pretty unpredictable.

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Speaker 4: Right I'm feeling optimistic and I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful for

830
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Speaker 4: the progress that she's made. I'm hopeful for the upcoming

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00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 4: progress she's going to continue making. We're just taking it

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Speaker 4: a day at a time. Every little step is a

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Speaker 4: big step in our eyes.

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Speaker 1: Glad It says, now that her daughters are situated with therapy,

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Speaker 1: it's her turn to take care of herself by finding

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Speaker 1: a therapist too.

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of it has to do with

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Speaker 4: pretty metro ayant scale. I mean, I grew up in

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Speaker 4: that household where it was like, you know, attend to

840
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Speaker 4: the kids and you know, leave yourself to the back burner.

841
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Speaker 4: And after May twenty fourth, it was quite honestly all

842
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 4: about Caitlin. Even Camilla, you know, was making sure that

843
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 4: she wasn't left to the side, and it was just

844
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Speaker 4: doing damage control. So now I'm having to reput, you know,

845
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 4: the pieces together, and so it's now my turn.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy to hear that. Gladys calls out to

847
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Speaker 1: Caitlin and Camilla saying it's time to go inside. Now.

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Speaker 1: The Caitlin before my eyes is being a ten year

849
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Speaker 1: old girl, in fact one that's about to turn eleven.

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Speaker 1: She's laughing, she's playing, and a lot of it seems

851
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Speaker 1: to be because she's been getting help. How's the therapy going?

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Speaker 7: I sleep by myself?

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Speaker 1: What yes? This bed all to me? And when she

854
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Speaker 1: got my mom.

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Speaker 11: I have to show my sister.

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Speaker 1: That's a big step. Mama, what happened?

857
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 7: I tell my mama, by myself?

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Speaker 1: What made you feel like you can.

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Speaker 5: My friend theirself? And I want to sleep by myself?

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Speaker 1: So you just were like, I'm gonna deal with being afraid.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, I can handle it.

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Speaker 11: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Seeing Caitlyn move forward in this moment is really reassuring

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Speaker 1: because what she's doing as an advocate for her entire

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Speaker 1: town is tough. She needs moments like these to stay

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Speaker 1: grounded for the fight that lies ahead, the fight that

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Speaker 1: she's in for her friends that are no longer physically

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Speaker 1: here with her, and to get strength for that fight.

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Speaker 1: Caitlin often visits a place that's come to mean a

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00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: lot for her, so she wanted to take me there.

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00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: The sun is setting over the beautiful South Texas sky.

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00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 1: It's massive. There are shades of pink, purple and orange everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Is this where you come to talk to Jackie? We're

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Speaker 1: at the local cemetery in Uvalde. And I've been to

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Speaker 1: so we do that. Flashes of color and light sprout

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Speaker 1: in this moment, she's with her best friend, Jackie. Uvalde

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Speaker 1: Rising is an original production of Futuro Investigates and Latino USA.

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Speaker 1: Some of the reporting for this episode is based on

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Speaker 1: Texas Politics. We urge you to please watch the film

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Speaker 1: as well. This episode was produced by Rinaldo Leanos Junior

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Speaker 1: and from Futuro Investigates Sophia Sanchez. It was edited by

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Speaker 1: Benille Ramirez is executive producer of Futurou Investigates along with myself.

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Speaker 1: Our editorial director is Fernandes Santos di Latino USA. Team

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Speaker 1: Arianna Surrio, and Jessica Ellis for all of your work,

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Speaker 1: help and support during the reporting of this story. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host and executive producer Marieojosa. You can stream our

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Speaker 1: Uvalde massacre. Visit Futuru Investigates dot org. Remember to catch

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