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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today we have Senator

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Speaker 1: Jim Banks with us. He was elected in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four to represent the state of Indiana. Oh, this is

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Speaker 1: so funny. In my notes, Sarah, who works with me,

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Speaker 1: is from Indiana, and she wrote go Hoosiers, which I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to say, but I think it's funny that

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Speaker 1: she put it in there to try to make me say, Senator,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining.

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Speaker 2: Great to be with you, Tutor, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely sure we.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: You know, I am a Michigan girl, so I will

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Speaker 1: just say that I have been wanting to talk to

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Speaker 1: you for a while.

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Speaker 3: We've been trying to get you on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited about what you've been able to take

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Speaker 1: to Washington from Indiana, and it is important to me

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Speaker 1: because we are all in the Midwest here together. The

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Speaker 1: reason I don't want to say go Hoosiers is because

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Speaker 1: you've taken a lot of our business. And I do

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Speaker 1: remember when you guys put up the billboards saying thank

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Speaker 1: you to Gretchen.

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Speaker 2: Whimmer for a lot of good reasons. And you know

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Speaker 2: it's sad because I love Michigan. I vacation in Michigan

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Speaker 2: with my family every summer. I grew up going to Michigan.

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Speaker 2: I live just forty five minutes from the state line,

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Speaker 2: and Michigan has so much to offer. But because of

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Speaker 2: your current leadership in your state, you guys have slipped

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Speaker 2: further and further behind in the metrics that matter, and

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Speaker 2: that's creating good paying, working class jobs for the next generation.

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Speaker 2: And Indiana's benefited from that. But I hope you guys

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Speaker 2: turned the page and elect leadership in your state that

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Speaker 2: will copy some of the things that we've done in

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Speaker 2: Indiana and change that because a strong Michigan is good

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Speaker 2: for the Midwest and good for Indiana too, and I

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Speaker 2: think Tutor, you're going to be a big part of

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Speaker 2: that for a long time to come.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you. I appreciated that, and what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: I have been saying this, and actually we were just

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Speaker 3: last night. We were at.

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Speaker 1: An event with a bunch of people from the middle

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Speaker 1: of the state and we were talking about that exact message,

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Speaker 1: because I hear so many politicians going out and talking

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Speaker 1: about we're going to have education, We're going to bring

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Speaker 1: education back, and we're gonna get lower taxes and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do this, and we're going to do that, but

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Speaker 1: there's no how. And what you just said is so important.

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Speaker 1: Bring high paying jobs, good paying jobs back to the state.

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Speaker 1: That is what Michigan has not had in so long.

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Speaker 1: But Gretchen Whitmer has paid a billion dollars of our money,

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Speaker 1: taken our money and paid it to corporations that promised

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Speaker 1: those good paying jobs to the state of Michigan, and

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Speaker 1: we didn't even get one fifth of what they promised

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Speaker 1: for that money. So you've you've been kind of talking

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Speaker 1: about this lately. It's important that we don't turn our

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Speaker 1: backs on who we are now what this new Republican

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Speaker 1: Party is. Can you kind of explain that a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've thought about a lot about this over the years.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you think about Michigan's economy, it's a lot

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Speaker 2: like Indiana's economy. And I come from the Fort Wayne area,

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Speaker 2: not we feed a lot off of Detroit. The auto industry. Actually,

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Speaker 2: Indiana has the most manufacturing jobs per capita of any

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Speaker 2: the steel industry not far from where I live. We

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Speaker 2: have the orthopedic capital the world, zimmer biomet and Depew

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Speaker 2: is why Indiana is such a pro Trump state. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I believe this through and through. Donald Trump represents my

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Speaker 2: voters that feel that have felt for too long like

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Speaker 2: politicians from all parties have abandoned them. But Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: sees them, he hears them. He wants to build a

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Speaker 2: better life for them, you know. Tutor. For me, it's

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Speaker 2: personal because I grew up in a trailer park. My

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Speaker 2: dad was a union factory worker. He made axles at

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Speaker 3: Was they were one of my customers. That's crazy. We

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Speaker 2: It's a great a great example of what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: My dad was a he was a part of the

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Speaker 2: He put food on the table. We worked our way

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Speaker 2: But when you look at factory jobs today compared to

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Speaker 2: twenty five thirty years ago, my dad, my dad only

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Speaker 2: retired maybe ten years ago from the factory. But you

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Speaker 2: to the eighties, and the factory these factory jobs today

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Speaker 2: aren't keeping up with You don't make a whole lot

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Speaker 2: more today in a lot of these factories than what

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Speaker 2: we've let we've let that manufacturing base, those blue collar

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Speaker 2: came along and the the trade policies that he's pushed for,

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Speaker 2: the immigration policies that he pushes for, the four that

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Speaker 2: these tariffs, I mean that what President Trump is doing

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Speaker 2: with reciprocal tariffs, this is the just the beginning of

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Speaker 2: reorienting the global economy to bring these jobs back, not

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Speaker 2: not to allow these jobs to go overseas any longer,

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Speaker 2: to save that manufacturing base. And I that to me,

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Speaker 2: that is in essence the new Republican Party. When we

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Speaker 2: focus on those voters, when we focus on voters like

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Speaker 2: my dad, who, by the way, when Donald Trump came

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Speaker 2: I told my dad, you're crazy. He can't win. I

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Speaker 2: didn't see what my dad saw, but my dad saw

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Speaker 2: it instantly. I mean, this was the guy who was

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Speaker 2: talking about what he cared about, being tough on China,

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Speaker 2: issues like that that my dad cared about. And and

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump has transformed the Republican Party, this new Republican

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Speaker 2: that I'm a part of that we're talking about. We

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Speaker 2: have to keep our part. One day when Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: hopefully JD. Vance and Jade Vance succeeds him, he becomes

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Speaker 2: the president, and we keep a Republican in the White House.

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Speaker 2: But when Donald Trump is gone, we have to make

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Speaker 2: sure that the Republican Party stays firmly planted with that

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Speaker 2: America First ideology, that the principles of Donald Trump and

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Speaker 2: not go backwards to the Liz Cheney Republican Party, the

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Speaker 2: corporate Republican Party that loves Wall Street more than they

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Speaker 2: love Main Street and small towns and working class voters

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Speaker 2: or will lose elections forever if we do that, and then.

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Speaker 1: There's no distinction between us and the Democrats. And that's

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Speaker 1: what we were talking about just last night. I said,

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Speaker 1: you hear Democrats constantly saying we've got to make people

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Speaker 3: Them money to the billionaires.

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Speaker 1: But you look in the state of Michigan and there's

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Speaker 1: almost been kind of this uniparty that has been funding

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Speaker 1: the billionaires over the small business owners, and the small

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Speaker 1: business owners are really the job creators.

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Speaker 3: That are making the jobs, that are the good paying jobs.

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Speaker 1: There's one guy I know that had a small business

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Speaker 1: in gren Rapids and he probably had about seventy five employees.

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Speaker 1: He ended up selling his company for hundreds of millions

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Speaker 1: every single employee a million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Those are the.

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Speaker 1: Kinds of people we want to grow, we want them

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Speaker 1: to want to be in our state. Instead, we have

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Speaker 1: Democrats that are giving tax relief, no property taxes to

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Speaker 1: don't pay property taxes. That pays our schools, that pays

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Speaker 1: the Democrats giving the billionaires the break, and we're getting

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Speaker 1: blamed for it. But that's the party we don't want

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Speaker 1: to be a part of. That's where I think we

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Speaker 1: have to step away and we have to invest in

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Speaker 1: the small businesses and the people who are creating the

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Speaker 3: Because as you create wealth for people, everything else will rise.

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Speaker 3: All of you will have more energy, you will have

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Speaker 3: better schools, you will have more people building homes. That

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Speaker 2: That's so true. If you go back to if you

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Speaker 2: go back to the election in twenty twelve, when Mitt

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Speaker 2: Romney ran against Barack Obama, Wall Street supported Mitt Romney

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Speaker 2: by about a margin of three to one in campaign

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Speaker 2: donations over Barack Obama. And that is the old Republican Party.

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Speaker 2: If you fast forward to today, go back to the

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Speaker 2: election of twenty twenty, for example, Biden versus Trump, he

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Speaker 2: was the exact opposite. Wall Street supported Joe Biden by

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Speaker 2: a margin of four to one in campaign donations over

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Because Wall Street hates Donald Trump. They know

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Speaker 2: that Donald Trump isn't going to let Wall Street sell

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Speaker 2: proves it. That's why they don't like him, because President

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Speaker 2: Trump puts the working men and women of this country first.

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Speaker 2: Those jobs for working class voters, blue collar Americans like

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Speaker 2: my family. Donald Trump's a lot more focused on that

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Speaker 2: today in the past, and Tutor, like you're saying, we

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Speaker 2: got to keep the Republican Party centered on that and

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Speaker 2: comes it becomes very important right now because right now,

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Speaker 2: as we speak on Capitol Hill, we're going through this

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Speaker 2: Reconciliation Bill, the one big beautiful bill to extend the

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Speaker 2: Trump tax cuts. And I think, frankly, I got elected

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Speaker 2: we did was the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. And

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Speaker 2: there was a big difference back then. We had Paul Ryan,

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Speaker 2: we had McConnell leading the Senate, we had Republican majorities,

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Speaker 2: but they weren't Republicans that were aligned with Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: and his agenda. And one of the big mistakes that

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Speaker 2: tax cuts and they made those permanent, but they sunset

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Speaker 2: the tax cuts on individuals, working class families, small businesses.

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Speaker 2: And that's why now now we're back here again today

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Speaker 2: working on that. We can't make that mistake again. We've

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Speaker 2: got to make those tax cuts permanent. We have to

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Speaker 2: focus all of the other tax credits and business tax credits,

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Speaker 2: research and development. All that stuff is important for the economy,

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Speaker 2: but what should be our top priority are the working

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Speaker 2: And that's what Republicans on Capitol Hill are wrestling with

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Speaker 2: at the moment. We have to get that right. We

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Speaker 2: have to let these voters know that you gave us

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Speaker 2: the white you gave us back, President Trump, you gave

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Speaker 2: us majorities. The Republican Party today represents you more than

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Speaker 2: we more and better than we've ever represented you before.

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Speaker 2: And we want you to remain Republicans, not go back

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Speaker 2: to becoming Democrats because we didn't get it right.

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Speaker 1: security implications of not having manufacturing. He's been going out

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Speaker 3: Now, think about how bizarre that is.

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Speaker 1: And if you're Donald Trump, I mean, even if you

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Speaker 3: The cost can be cut.

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Speaker 1: It can be done in the United States, and jobs

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Speaker 2: you know, Tutor from your background, a lot of this

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Speaker 1: The people who come in and they tell you, you know,

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Speaker 2: And in Indiana that's what under Governor Daniels and Governor Pence,

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Speaker 1: But tough on China is a rebrand for us too,

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Speaker 3: And Donald Trump knows what he's doing with the tariffs.

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Speaker 2: and moving into India. Indie. India is an ally, so

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Speaker 2: So you'll see a lot of that happening as well.

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Speaker 2: We want that production to come to the United States

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Speaker 2: of America. But when we see announcements like that of

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Speaker 2: major businesses pulling investments out of China, that's good for

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Speaker 2: America and we should celebrate it. And that's good for

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Speaker 2: working class Americans. That's good for this new Republican Party

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Speaker 2: in our base. To let them know that we care

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Speaker 2: more about you. The Democrats care more about China. Remind them,

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Speaker 2: Remind them of that every single day.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting because the Democrats are running on all of

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Speaker 1: Gretchen Whitmer in twenty twenty two, and she made an

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Speaker 1: interesting comment she said, We're going to eat Indiana's lunch

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Speaker 1: based on solely the access to abortion. She thought that

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Speaker 1: and that was what she campaigned on.

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Speaker 3: We are going to be dominating.

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Speaker 1: Manufacturing because all of these businesses will be so upset

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Speaker 1: Michigan based solely on social issues. Obviously, that hasn't happened Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Just there was just a new report done that Michigan

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Speaker 1: is forty fourth in best to live in. That's the

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Speaker 1: state of Michigan. Two years after she ran on she

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Speaker 1: was going to eat Indiana's lunch. What you just said

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Speaker 1: She can't catch a break when it comes to bringing

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Speaker 1: Trump with open arms the other day because he's saving

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Speaker 3: She's got nothing.

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Speaker 1: What do Democrats campaign on in twenty six They're so crazy?

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Speaker 2: I mean that whether it's boys playing in girls' sports

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Speaker 2: or right now, by the way, they're opposing this tax

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Speaker 2: cut deal. And this isn't these This isn't about corporate

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Speaker 2: tax rates anymore. This is about extending the tax cuts

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Speaker 2: on regular, normal, everyday working Americans, and Democrats are opposed

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Speaker 2: can that the Democrats want your taxes to go up,

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Speaker 2: and it's going to It'll be the biggest tax increase

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Speaker 2: don't extend the individual tax rates from the tax cuts

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Speaker 2: and jobs ax. So how can you convince me or

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Speaker 2: Democrats are better for represent you better than Republicans do.

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Speaker 2: It's just not the case anymore.

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Speaker 1: Your colleagues are storming prisons to get illegal aliens out right.

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Speaker 2: Is that the Democrats are crazy town? I mean that

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Speaker 2: there are a few every now and then you talk

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Speaker 2: to a Democrat privately on Capitol Hill, and they know

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Speaker 2: their parties crazy. They're trying to dig out of the hole,

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Speaker 2: but they can't. They're stuck in the mud. The Democrats

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Speaker 2: are the best thing that we have going for us,

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Speaker 2: So we got we got to seize the moment, work

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Speaker 2: with President Trump, and push the Trump Agenda, the America

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Speaker 2: First Agenda, as far as we can. If we succeed

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Speaker 2: at that, then we will be the Party of the

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Speaker 2: working Class for a long time to come. It's not

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Speaker 2: just something borrowed or loaned to us by President Trump.

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Speaker 2: It's something that we can cement for the Republican Party,

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Speaker 2: and that's how we win national elections for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercill break. Will continue next on

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Speaker 1: a Tutor Dixon podcast. People need to get in the

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Speaker 1: mindset that we're going to win the midterms. The Democrats

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Speaker 1: have been very good at gathering their activists and being

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Speaker 1: out there, and you see them. I think you have

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Speaker 1: they are still organized. They are still getting people together.

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Speaker 1: We've got to stay out there. We can't sit back

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Speaker 1: and go, oh, we've got this. Donald Trump is this

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Speaker 1: hero to manufacturers. And that's what you're saying. The working

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Speaker 1: class is not going to just stay with us because

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is out there. We have to stay out there.

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Speaker 1: Last night we went to Musak County in Michigan. The

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Speaker 1: Stay out there or these people will be disenfranchised.

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Speaker 3: They will be upset that you are not continuing to

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Speaker 3: talk to them. If you are a Republican.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I really believe this. I mean, for my dad

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Speaker 2: again is like my he's my my focus group. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he was, he's one of these voters. He voted Democrat

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Speaker 2: most of his life. He voted with the union because

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Speaker 2: the they the Democrats were the party of the working

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Speaker 2: people is what the Democrat what the Unions would say.

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Speaker 2: But over time he knew that wasn't true. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he was excited when Ross Perot ran for president. We

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Speaker 2: had the Paro for President bumper sticker on the truck

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Speaker 2: and was I remember being embarrassed about that when I

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Speaker 2: was a kid. But he liked that because Pio was

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Speaker 2: talking about the same things, right, I mean, he was

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Speaker 2: talking about China, he was talking about jobs going to Mexico,

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Speaker 2: and that resonated with my dad. And then the second

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Speaker 2: candidate that my dad got really excited about wasn't me,

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Speaker 2: It was Donald Trump coming down the escalator because he

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Speaker 2: was talking about being tough on China and bringing these

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Speaker 2: jobs back. And President Trump was talking about how bad

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Speaker 2: of a deal NAFTA was, and my dad, my dad

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Speaker 2: was right. President Trump has been talking about these things

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Speaker 2: since long before he ran for president. He was talking

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Speaker 2: in the eighties when he never been dreamed of being

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Speaker 2: president one day. So this is a new Republican party,

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Speaker 2: but we got to we got to keep these voters

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Speaker 2: with us by doing what we said we were going

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Speaker 2: to do. And that's that's where Republicans fault have all

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Speaker 2: in short, for way too long before President Trump began

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Speaker 2: to hold us accountable for it. We got to extend

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Speaker 2: these tax cuts on working class people. We got to

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Speaker 2: secure the border. We have to cut illegal immigration coming

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Speaker 2: into our country like the President is doing, but the

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Speaker 2: Congress has to do it. We have to. President Trump

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Speaker 2: is doing all this right by himself by executive order.

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Speaker 2: The Congress has to pass these bills, pass these laws

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Speaker 2: so that the next time, you know, God forbid if

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Speaker 2: a Democrat follows President Trump. I don't think that's going

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Speaker 2: to happen. I don't want that to happen, but that

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Speaker 2: the next Joe Biden can come come along and just

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Speaker 2: do away with everything that, all the good things President

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Speaker 2: Trump did with the stroke of a pen. We can't

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Speaker 2: let him do that. We have to We have to

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Speaker 2: pass our bills and pass them into law so they

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's what we keep saying. And we are better

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Speaker 1: right now because we have you in the Senate. Senator

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Speaker 1: Jim Banks, thank you so much, thank you for all

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Speaker 1: you do, and thank you for being on.

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Speaker 3: The podcast today be with you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you absolutely, thank you all for joining us on

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Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. For this episode and others, go

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Speaker 1: to Tutordison podcast dot com, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Have a blessing,