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Speaker 1: Welcome back all the smoke. Jack. We got a legend

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Speaker 2: We appreciate just your time and willingness to come and

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Speaker 2: chop it up and tell some stories.

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Speaker 1: A lot of good things going on in your life

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations, you just got your copyright reversion, your copyback. So

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Speaker 2: talk to us, because we talked to DC a couple

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Speaker 2: of months, man, about three or four months ago about

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Speaker 2: this process. And so it's a thirty five year process.

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Speaker 2: And then after that everything reversion. It was a sixty

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Speaker 2: five year process set up to lose even thirty five

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Speaker 2: as a monster, though, especially the end of the game

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Speaker 2: you were playing there.

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Speaker 1: Most definitely rested peace to Tupac and all the man.

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Speaker 1: They didn't get to see all that, Yes, and they

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Speaker 1: have somebody else do.

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Speaker 2: It for him.

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Speaker 1: Explain what that is though for the people that don't understand, well,

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six, it was a copyright ad called copyright

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Speaker 1: reversion where they lorded down to thirty five years and

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Speaker 1: if you signed a bad deal when you was young,

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Speaker 1: you get the second bite at the apple thirty five

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Speaker 1: years later, which the company had to come back and

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Speaker 1: negotiate with you to keep they deal in place. If

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Speaker 1: you don't want to do it, or if you want

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Speaker 1: to do it, it's up to you. I chose to

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Speaker 1: do it myself. It took me this long to get

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Speaker 1: it back. And if you don't answer the phone I

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Speaker 1: called off, I did the deal, it's gonna be a problem.

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Speaker 2: So you know, so tell me, like, let me hear

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Speaker 2: some of the songs. Let the fans hear some of

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Speaker 2: the songs that you just got the reversion back to.

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Speaker 1: I mean all of death ro Cadillact. I mean riding

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Speaker 1: in the Cadillac. But you know all the songs from

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Speaker 1: like Ambitions of a Rider. Ain't man that you two

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Speaker 1: of the most Americans most wanted, you know, songs that

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Speaker 1: people implicated, Ambitions of a Rider in Little Wag meet Me,

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Speaker 1: everybody to everybody touched on that. So you know, I

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Speaker 1: get a piece of that, and I get twenty five percent,

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Speaker 1: and then Tupac get the other twenty five percent, and

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Speaker 1: then they get to chop up the rest of that

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Speaker 1: whatever it is. But we get the solid number off

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Speaker 1: the top, you know what I mean? So you know

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Speaker 1: them checks come in every three months, times, fifteen, twenty times,

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Speaker 1: so you know, but I love it. Yeah, like I said,

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Speaker 1: people have reached the pinnacle rap. You know, they got

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Speaker 1: a song with everybody in the game from run DMC

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Speaker 1: with Rage being in a video with run DMC Jam

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Speaker 1: as the Jay. That's classics for me as far as

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Speaker 1: I reached the pinnacle of rap.

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Speaker 2: With that said, though, I still don't think you get

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Speaker 2: the respect you deserve for what you created and accomplished

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Speaker 2: and the people you help build that are the pioneers

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Speaker 2: or exactly you are a pioneer, but who are the

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Speaker 2: pioneers in this space? We talked a quick we talked

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Speaker 2: to DC about that and why do I feel like, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: how come you feel like you know, guys like you,

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Speaker 2: some of the pioneers in this West Coasting don't necessarily

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Speaker 2: get the respector or or credit you deserve for your

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Speaker 1: Because we probably don't give up a lot of publishing

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Speaker 1: to do, you know what I'm saying. But just learning

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Speaker 1: the game period is just a learning lesson. And then

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Speaker 1: I'm a low key person. I'm not a show boll,

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Speaker 1: you know, just kick back, you know to some drama

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Speaker 1: and then I'll show out, you know, to get us

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Speaker 1: private solution, pieceful solution, or can turn the other way,

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Speaker 1: but it's all about you know, think first. You know

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Speaker 1: that thirty seconds and get your thirty years coming back

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Speaker 1: from that. So you boys better think out there, get

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Speaker 1: your money.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you stepped away from Wrap a couple of

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Speaker 2: years ago and just said it wasn't fun no more.

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Speaker 2: What got the enthusiasm back because you're dropping a project soon.

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Speaker 1: I mean just the part of not just you know,

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Speaker 1: That's what I got tired of. That type of stuff,

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Speaker 1: a piece of something that I got a verse for you.

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Speaker 1: Somebody wanted to get a first, But how much you

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Speaker 2: Tell us about what we should expect from this album

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Speaker 2: in the name of it.

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Speaker 1: The name of this album is Retaliation, Revenge and Get Back.

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Speaker 1: I dropped Retaliation, Revenge and Get Back Part one nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety eight, and so I felt like, you know, my

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Speaker 2: You had to get this out of you.

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Speaker 1: There's some energy on this Yeah, some energy on it. It's

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Speaker 1: all hardcore, you know what I'm saying. Nothing soft, just

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Speaker 1: that was on the first album. Okay, you ran it back.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I wanted to put it like that.

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Speaker 2: Ninety was a good year. That's my senior year of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got basically everything and is mixed. Property is banging,

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Speaker 1: that we can have fun now we're older. Now we

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Speaker 2: I mean, we were talking before we got on camera and

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Speaker 2: just how dirty the business is. But you were just

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Speaker 2: But what was your hand almost forced to learning because

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Speaker 1: I see a lot of people get fucked, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, just taking advantage of it. You know

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Speaker 1: you need to register that song, because it's all about

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Speaker 1: what I did back in the nineties too, you know

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Speaker 1: We should went to jail. I was running death from

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Speaker 1: We ain't gonna never even fall out like that. You

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, and we still pushing to this day.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And that's I've been on

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Speaker 1: this trip for fifty two years. God plus he did,

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Speaker 1: so you know, it's a learning lesson. Every lesson ain't

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Speaker 1: a failure a learning lesson. Keep pushing, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, and get up and do it again.

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Speaker 2: Not too long ago, Snoop bought Death row Over. What

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Speaker 2: did that mean to you? Obviously? That was a you

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Speaker 2: it's a different version. Were your thoughts when you first

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, it was a dude named Alan grim

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Speaker 1: you know, he was running around with shit and they

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Speaker 1: was stealing and he had told him that I had

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Speaker 1: back and then come to find out, Uh, they lie,

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Speaker 1: And then they said, what is your routing number? Hey?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean and want to be sued.

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Speaker 1: It didn't want to be sued. So you know, add

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Speaker 1: I love My lawyer's name is Brett Lewis. You know

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Speaker 1: a plane when I was down and out put that

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Just watch me watch the

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Speaker 1: moves out What is it? Don't watch me watch the

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Speaker 2: Register He just that's a common saying, Like the homie says.

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Speaker 1: That because shout out big key. He you do know

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Speaker 1: any truth to you? Stealing reels back when Sugar went

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Speaker 1: And then when they pulled them tapes up, they was high.

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Speaker 1: That's all I heard was fuky. I got them ribs

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Speaker 1: Don't try to put one on us. Yeah you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, because no reals cost two hundred fifty

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Speaker 1: Back in the day, you had to have two hundred

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Speaker 3: A lot of people don't know the difference between Long

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Speaker 1: Long Beach is all cribs, ain't no others, The father

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Speaker 1: of Us, ain't nothing down there. It's just all crips, nineteens, instans, twenties,

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Speaker 1: and you got the essays and then you got the Filipinos.

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Speaker 1: But we all together. But as soon as you come

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Speaker 1: It's all Then you got North Long Beach. You know

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I see that's the big homie. He just hit

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Speaker 2: Where did your love for producing and creative coming from?

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Speaker 2: Creativity come from?

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Speaker 1: Feelings? Expression? You know what I'm saying. If I couldn't

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, and make me a love song?

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Speaker 1: Yeah for real? Might put the drink down, man, get

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Speaker 1: I came under Snoop? You know what I'm saying. They

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Speaker 1: Destruction ads up to zero. I'm Muslim, Yeah, so that

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00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,159
Speaker 1: would I learned that back in the days. You know,

433
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 1: listen to poor righteous teachers, you know. Back in there,

434
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 1: you know we all had the medallion. Yeah, we all

435
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 1: had the African Medallia. We all had we had in fact,

436
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 1: I had the big ones, the little ones, the yellow ones,

437
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 1: all that shit, you know what I'm saying. So just

438
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,639
Speaker 1: growing up in that era, you know what I'm saying,

439
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 1: And you know that's what that was. Hip hop was

440
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,159
Speaker 1: about learning, you know what I'm saying. And when I

441
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 1: hear different songs, I think about damn what's the mathematics?

442
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything doggy style. What was it like helping be

443
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:40,640
Speaker 2: a part of that project?

444
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 1: It was great being a Dodarky Stacks because I was

445
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 1: producing more, I was writing more, just learning more. You know,

446
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,920
Speaker 1: they knew our face then you know what I'm saying.

447
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,919
Speaker 1: And then, uh, that's when John Singleton came to us

448
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 1: and he wanted us to do poetic justice, and we

449
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,879
Speaker 1: did the song Niggas Don't give a Fuck and that

450
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 1: was the first doll Pound song because being correct with Solo,

451
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 1: I was that nigga dash. He was corrupted kingpin. And

452
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 1: then we was getting high. You know what I'm saying

453
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 1: looking at the moon one night. Damn, we call ourselves

454
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 1: the dog Pound cause we lived in the dog I

455
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,959
Speaker 1: was staying in our house the dog Pound. And then

456
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 1: all the niggas that we had the doll Pound gang.

457
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 1: But we have a group to dog pounds. So I'm like,

458
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 1: nigga were gonna become the dog Pound. And that next

459
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: day when we was hard thinking that shit drunk and

460
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: shit looking at the moon and shit in the moon,

461
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 1: moving and shit, John Singleton came up and we did

462
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 1: that song. The next day. It was solidified.

463
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you've had your hand in a ton of hits.

464
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,640
Speaker 2: What was that one when you heard on the radio

465
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 2: the LA radio wave the first time you were like.

466
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 1: Damn, got my mind on my money and my money

467
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 1: on my mind. Jean and Juice, you know what I'm saying.

468
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 1: On hearing your voice, but just being on tangaway and

469
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 1: blunts and just being on the chronic and then what

470
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 1: would you do? We got nominated that was a dis

471
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 1: song a Grammy and we got nominated for a Grammy

472
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 1: for that and me and took our mother's to the Grammys.

473
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 1: It was not date go are you finished? You can

474
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: finish that this? You know, we just took our mothers

475
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 1: to the to the Grammys and got the you know,

476
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: the boone thus wanted. You know what I'm saying. But

477
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 1: that's when we was few when back then, But we're

478
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 1: best of friends now. Yeah. Shut out to bone thugs,

479
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

480
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 3: A bort of Room soundtrack dog pind for like you

481
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 3: did that Beata, did that beat.

482
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 1: That bitch hard? That ship crazy?

483
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 4: And then soundtrack Big Pimping Too, Yeah, Big Pimping too.

484
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

485
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 2: I heard I want to say, I heard you tell

486
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 2: it or someone tell it. You and Snoop got into

487
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 2: some ship one time, just kind of wrestling around, and

488
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 2: he shot their equipment.

489
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got into it. Little cousin in the room

490
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: talking ship. I'm talking ship and uh, I think I

491
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: put him in the head locks or something like that.

492
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: And then uh, he came in there and shot my drummer.

493
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: Shot these three eighties we just bought. And then I

494
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: went in there and shot the TV up he just bought.

495
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 1: They had one of big ass TVs. And then we

496
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: just went there and smoked the blunt afterwards, all the.

497
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 2: Day, did d y'all, didn't y'all create Ain't no fun

498
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 2: right after.

499
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: That, Yep, because we went somewhere and they took the

500
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: dish out the drum machine and gave it to doctor

501
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: Drake and I came back in they had ain't no fun? Then,

502
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 1: Do I get my credit for it? I'm still fighting

503
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: for that right now. It's this stuff that only we know.

504
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying talk to us about.

505
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 2: Ain't no fun though, Yeah, ain't no fun.

506
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: The homieshing, you know, boom boom bomb. After that offer

507
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: Cameo was sampling Cameo and then they just took that

508
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: base like one one, Doctor Drake did what he did,

509
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: and Nate Dog coming in and when I mentioned it

510
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: was over who it's the piece of Nake Dog. You

511
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We've been through a lot, man,

512
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 1: you gonna do You really don't know. Somebody advise you

513
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: not to trust that whole silly of me to fall

514
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: in love with you with my son, rotate till my

515
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: game grows bigger?

516
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 4: How many bit just wanna fuck this nigga name Snoop Doggy.

517
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 5: I'm all the above. I'm just swift on my toes

518
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 5: to get caught up with you ho hey. And we

519
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 5: performed that every time, and you know, you know what

520
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 5: I'm saying. They'd be like, man, we grew up on

521
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 5: y'all man, you know yeah, and we just be like,

522
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 5: damn that old.

523
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But I still feel you know,

524
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, my vegetables fruit, you know

525
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, get the sun. I better get y'all

526
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: some son too, because that's the part of life.

527
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 4: That's a blessed Your music timeless, Yeah, murder was the case.

528
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: Murder was the case we had wrote. That song was

529
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 1: a song called Dave death after visualizing eternity. That was

530
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 1: the first name of that song when we first created.

531
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: Then we turned it into murder was the Case, But

532
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: murder was the case song was done before that incident

533
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: with the so it wasn't like we made that after that,

534
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I just went so

535
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: looked like yeah, yea the time police with you know

536
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: what I'm sing. But I had just went over there

537
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: the other day. If you look at my Instagram, I

538
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: got a clip on it where I went thirty house

539
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: to invent just really you know, like that history and

540
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: just that part right there, and just like man because

541
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 1: I played the devil part, bring your lifestyle to me.

542
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: I make it better would in life beforeever? Yeah, when

543
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: I mean that, I make a life better than you

544
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: can imagine even dreamed of. So relax your soul, let

545
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: me take control. Close your eyes closed, so you know that,

546
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: like and they made a movie out of that, you

547
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you know, and you know

548
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: we get paid from that to this day, you know

549
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I just look at it everything

550
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: and I just love it. You know what I'm saying

551
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: that My kids they looking like, that's you daddy, right, crazy? Right?

552
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: What's that side of it like? Because music is so

553
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: different today than it was back then? But what does

554
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: that side like when your kids kind of start understanding

555
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: who their dad was and what kind of history.

556
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: When im walking with my daughter, she's like, man, why

557
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: these motherfucker's coming up to you?

558
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: Right?

559
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: Who was it? Seven? And my son he got a

560
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: chain on? Yeah, you don't know. You ain't tell me.

561
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 4: You ain't tell me.

562
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: So you know our school, and now she knows, you

563
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So and now she listening to

564
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: the music, you know, because she all West Coast and

565
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: she's seven years old.

566
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: When did you run into corrupt? How you in corrupt me?

567
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: We were me and corrupt met on death ruck, you

568
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He was already on death row

569
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: when I came. And then we was upstairs until like

570
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: they had a big old room with they had a

571
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 1: dance hall. We used to perform up there and practice

572
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 1: and rehearsal, and he used to come back to them,

573
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: and then we just became super tough titan and then

574
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: I became security for him, beat niggas up for you know.

575
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: So we just running a ready right from Philly, right

576
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: from Philly, sharing here Yeah, yeah, Jam and Rosco yep.

577
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: So you know, just been with us and then you know,

578
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: we've just been a tight knit family, you know what

579
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and just running.

580
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: So y'all had fallen out for a little bit. I

581
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: heard you blocked them on social media. Talk to us

582
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 2: about this.

583
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 1: Man, I blocked everybody, not even I'm like, I don't

584
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: want to see all.

585
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: Everybody, but talk to us. How Snoop got you guys

586
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: in the same place early in the morning. Y'all didn't

587
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: know what you was gonna be there and then jumped

588
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 2: on the bad Yeah.

589
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: Well, you know, me and Snoop had a little falling

590
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: out for the last fifteen twelve years, you know, cousin things.

591
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's not even with the music,

592
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 1: personal business, you know what I'm saying. So you know

593
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: we got over that, you know what I'm saying. It

594
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: had a lot to do with like you know, you

595
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: know my uncle, you know his daddy, mama, you know

596
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: my mom and shit, when my mom passed, you know,

597
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: I ain't had no support and I just felt like

598
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: I was alone. You know what I'm saying, and I

599
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 1: rebelled towards all my family. It was fuck them all, uh,

600
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: tea other everybody, you know what I'm saying. So and

601
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: then I got over there after she died, and you

602
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and thought about everything and thinking

603
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: about you know, like where your life going. You're here now.

604
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: My father he died on my birthday on May twenty fifth,

605
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So everything is a lesson

606
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: to me and our learned. And so I'm thinking to myself,

607
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, I really don't have no parents or after God,

608
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: myself from now and my children and my business and everything.

609
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I flew back to

610
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: LA and some was like call my cousin Papa and

611
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: telling you know, I want to you know, hook her

612
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: with the dog. And then so we got back together

613
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: talking on the phone, and then my uncle called and

614
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: we got into it and I said some shit to

615
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: hear me, and he got super high and called Snoop

616
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: and Snoop called me my mother, Fael joke, my daddy.

617
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And uh to be back

618
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: at square one. So I come back again. Some say

619
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: hit him, and then we come back, and he said, yeah,

620
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: well come over. So I'm sitting there and then you know,

621
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: we're talking and stuff, and then corrupt come and he

622
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: thought I was somebody else or something. So I just

623
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: looked up here like that. You're like, yeah, and then

624
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: this snos starts smiling. Then you put the music on,

625
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: and then we came with that song Smoke Up.

626
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 2: The first the first album on death Row.

627
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: Right, they had the first album going back to death Row. Yeah,

628
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: so you know, and then that said, I know, we

629
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: just had fifteen more songs done in the next three days.

630
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: What's that feeling like though, Because you guys had magic

631
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: in the past, and then ship always had, but it's

632
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: still family. And then once you come back, it's like

633
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: you never missed a beat.

634
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: What's that?

635
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: What's that feeling like though? When you get back on

636
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: the same mental path as the homie, you.

637
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: Can get some money, man. We some of this new

638
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: money man, you know what I'm saying. And we own

639
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: the music now and it feels good and you know,

640
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: all the player, hey, they gonna hate you know what

641
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And uh, we just had a good time.

642
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: And then from then on we just told ourselves we

643
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: ain't gonna have no hate, know none of that. Everything

644
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: is in the past, everything is over with. You know,

645
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: we're starting over fresh with attitudes. And we've been great

646
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: since then. You know what I'm saying. I haven't had

647
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: no ill will towards nobody, and they haven't had no

648
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: ill will. That's what We're always working with each other.

649
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: We had a conversation this morning, a meeting on the

650
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: phone before I got here with everybody in there, talking

651
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: about the dog Food thirtieth anniversary coming out and what

652
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing for that and what Snoop ideas

653
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: is and what our ideas is, and you know what

654
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and right now, just a family thing, loving

655
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: each other and pushing because we like we got we

656
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: all we got.

657
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: You ever think I mean considering the space shows in

658
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: the streets. She also was running in the industry, you're

659
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: in the label you were with, Yeah, to just be

660
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: here today.

661
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: Most definitely. I look at a lot of homeboys that

662
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: they ain't here, right, you know what I'm saying, and

663
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: a lot of parents that aren't here, cousins that aren't here,

664
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: and it's just I wake up every morning, like you know,

665
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: thanking God, like you know, someday, you know, we all

666
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: got to get out of here. Man. We don't know

667
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: how we gonna get out of here, but we all

668
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: have to die one day. And that's a scary feeling

669
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: and make you want to get your life together to

670
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: prepare for your children, what the future going to be

671
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: like for them, you know, like my houses and stuff,

672
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: I already put them in my kids now, you know

673
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And a lot of black folks like

674
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: us don't do health insurance and life insurance and shit.

675
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: They just die and just fight for they shit, you

676
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that's why a lot of

677
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: people be fighting when you die. Nigg they start fighting

678
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: for all your shit. As soon as you die, Niggas

679
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: breaking in your house and all kind of shit.

680
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 4: And to be your family fighting over your shit too.

681
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So you know, you got

682
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: to be mentally prepared for this thing and get your

683
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: life together, you know what I'm saying. And eat healthy.

684
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: You know, I see people that somebody some thirty years

685
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: old I've just seen the other day, you know what

686
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And it's people like that, you know what

687
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And I went to Jamaica. We went to

688
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: Jamaica with Snoop to do the recarnation. You know what

689
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It was ladies over there, ninety seven years old,

690
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: blowing like a stove.

691
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 6: Smoking some wee baby. Look at my skin, you know

692
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. Seven and just eating right. You know

693
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Make some trick, That's what it is.

694
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 6: Gotta have that fruit. Why are you all this dead

695
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 6: stuff when you can eat stuff that's living.

696
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: Eat greens and smoke greens. You know what I'm saying.

697
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: I eat vegetables. I'm a lot of vegetable guys. You

698
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, put that hot sauce on it. Man,

699
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: didn't turn anything whatever you wanted to turn.

700
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: And in some ways some farms hot sauce is good

701
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: for you too.

702
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tabasco sauce, not that real hot hollow, not that shit.

703
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: Burn your ass up. When did you first meet Park?

704
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: We made Park back in like ninety one. We had

705
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: met him at a show and then we hooked up

706
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: with him and he took us to his house and

707
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: Venice Beach. He lived in Venice Beach. He had just

708
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: did juice nigga gave us a laser dish. You know

709
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: what that is, right? The movie was on a laser dish.

710
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: That's all you y'all a little youngster, don't know what

711
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: a laser this is. It's a big old dish the

712
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: laser you put on there. And he gave us that

713
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: movie and we went home and watched that. Mouff we

714
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: had a laser dish too, and then we've been friends

715
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: from then and back and forth. And then he was

716
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: going through his trials and tribulations and then I said,

717
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: you know what, shouldn't we gonna do a song. Let's

718
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: get Tupac on there. And we had did hard on

719
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: the nigga that was on the gang related by that

720
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: song was like, yeah, that song was like four years

721
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: earlier before. We didn't even use it. But we paid

722
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: him thirty thousand. You look at the movie when she

723
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: came and gave him that money. That was for that song.

724
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: That was the most he ever got paid. Like, so

725
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: hear me like, I don't get paid us and they're

726
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: gonna make sure to give you some money. Can get

727
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: some money over this. That's hard, So I'd be hard too. Yeah,

728
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: should never have royalties. He never had a royalty department.

729
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: He was just always here, here, this and there and

730
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: didn't have a royalty you know what I'm saying that

731
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: the count what it was, he was just always giving

732
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: you shit, giving you a big glumps of money and shit.

733
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: And that's when I found out that I got to

734
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: get a business account because I was just buying pounds

735
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: and doing what I'm doing, and the tax man came

736
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: and put a hold on that money. Kind of disappointed

737
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: me when I went to the bank to get that pound,

738
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so I had to

739
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: go back and readjust myself and learn from the white

740
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: folks to say, hey, man, I got to get a

741
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: business account. It's a child support. They can't snatch that

742
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: money in the business man, you know what I mean,

743
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: And learn that. Like I said before, when I tell everybody,

744
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: now pay Uncle Sam, because you can make all the

745
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: money in the world once you pay him off, once

746
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: you get him out of your head, you can make

747
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: all the money in the world.

748
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: It's just the stress of this stress you out knowing

749
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 3: you on. They don't be the other shit.

750
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: That's why you got to get your business acount, because

751
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: you pay your taxes at the end of the year

752
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: and write that off, you know what I'm saying, and

753
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: do business right, you know what I'm saying. So I

754
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: just write it off and everything is a swipe on

755
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: the credit card because I got too much cast I'm

756
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: gonna forget what I the bought? Is it?

757
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 3: Is it true? You got a stable of songs from

758
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 3: Park that ain't been released.

759
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: I gave him back to his mother. Yea, back then,

760
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: how many songs? At least about forty songs? I had

761
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: made mcavellian Dllinger an underground album like from the back

762
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: of his bootleg, you know what I'm saying. Because deaf

763
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: Ro was trying to steal my music and stuff, so

764
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: I had to release it some way somehow, you know

765
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So yeah, and then she sued me

766
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: for me and that was mister Phoenis she care up?

767
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: But we was all cool. And then I gave it

768
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: a real because I'm like, I didn't want them to

769
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: steal it, you know what I'm saying, right, And then

770
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 1: that's what I made my deal with Universe for those songs,

771
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: and then fifty six and who Kid came and got

772
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: that song The realist killer. I helped put that song

773
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: together because they got the vocals from me. They came

774
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: over there like a bullet player. They didn't know what

775
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: to expect up to get those vocals. Yeah, but I

776
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: gave it to him. You know what I'm saying that

777
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: Fred Righouse.

778
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 4: Pok's work ethic rubbed off on us.

779
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We probably was listening to

780
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: one song to day and some shit like that in

781
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: half of us. So when he finished with us, we

782
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: was doing ten songs a day, and that motherfucker. You

783
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I was because I was working

784
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: with him. So I'm doing the beat. And we live

785
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 1: next door to each other when he stayed on Wilshire,

786
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: so he would wake up in the morning. I'm a

787
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: Gemini here and Geminal. We up early in the morning.

788
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: He wanted to smoke some wheed. You know, I got

789
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: the he smelly coming under the door. So he always

790
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: say the first one in the morning, you know, early bird,

791
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: get the worm. And so I mean early morning, I'm

792
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: making bets and stuff. He hearing it through the wall.

793
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: He come over there and get you to I wanna

794
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: jump on the first, get him first. You got him.

795
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: Everybody else gonna take him.

796
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 3: He just type a nigga, do the song play back

797
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: one time to go into the next one.

798
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because I think it was nineteen ninety five, October

799
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: should call and said me me at Manti's, you know,

800
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: the Mafia restaurant. He didn't see them, and so we

801
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: went there. We didn't know what to spect and Tupac

802
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: came in the door and they like, you're like you ready, like, yeah, yeah,

803
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: I just made five beasts today. Ambitious of a Rider Tour,

804
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: America's most wanted just made it. So we went in

805
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: there and knocked him down. And that's when the first

806
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: song we did was the Ambitious of a Rider. I

807
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: kicked it off that the first song is always the

808
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: melody in the picture movie. Yeah, set the tone, you

809
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And from then on, I dropped

810
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: them five and then we was doing I already had

811
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: ain't nothing, but I can't stop party.

812
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 4: Why are you looking like that, snoop?

813
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And then I had that

814
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: beat already to hook everything, and the song was already done.

815
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: I just needed Tupac came in there, ladies verse, and

816
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: then we looked up and then Snoop walked in the door,

817
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: and then it was already like shit, you already right here.

818
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 2: Over You were in an era where if you're making

819
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: a collapse, you're making a song with somebody else. They

820
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: was in the studio. Talk to us about what that

821
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: energy different being. How if they send their sample over

822
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 2: to you, what's the what's the difference between obviously being

823
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: in person and catching that energy in that that that

824
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 2: BA vibe.

825
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: Throwing ideas from me? You you know what I mean?

826
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: Packing forth like the basketball. You know, it's more organic. Yeah,

827
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, and then and then

828
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: we're creating together, and then that makes it better instead

829
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: of one person going to get brain boggled. You know,

830
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: I've seen some shit.

831
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 3: I ain't as you know, as smart as you as

832
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: you in the game, but I've seen from just being

833
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 3: around studio. Sometimes people send verses to people and they

834
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: make a beat. They make a whole song to the

835
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: verses that you already spit. They just just track them in.

836
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: It's easy. Start off with the snare first. The snare

837
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 1: makes the song. Yeah, that makes the song that set

838
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: the tempo, right, that set the tempo. But it also

839
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: makes the song, whether the clap is loud or it's

840
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 1: just you know what I mean. And then the kick

841
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: and they eight away. You know what I'm saying. It

842
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: all depends on how you rap in too, So you know,

843
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: I start off with the drums first, you know what

844
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and that sets my tone in the baseline,

845
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: then the top part in the music, and then the

846
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: rest is history.

847
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 4: So it ain't hard to build a beat around versus

848
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 4: already dropped.

849
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: When you're good at it, you'll profession Yeah, yeah, we

850
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: come in. We professor to go ahead, knocked that thing

851
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: out while they're sitting in there, and did ten songs

852
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: in the last hour, you know, getting in and getting

853
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: out because back then you just pay for studio time.

854
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: You had that much. You got, you got, you got

855
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: any classics. That's that was done like that. Yep, we

856
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: did uh we did uh. Ain't no fun like that. Really,

857
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 1: let's play house. We did scandalous with Tupac when they.

858
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: Dog they dropped their versus. You build the beat around it. Yeah,

859
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 3: that's that's hard. That's hard.

860
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: You know the little quantitizer they just wrap your verse

861
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: man and put the rest to it. Yeah, you know

862
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: what I mean, and then you know that's like one

863
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: method that we do like that. You know see how.

864
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 3: That's the talent that everybody can't do that. I've seen

865
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: everybody can't do that. The quantitize on there.

866
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: It was called uh back then that ship midy. Kendrick

867
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: most definitely came back outside, had a hell of a

868
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: still got a good bro. I just heard a they

869
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: not like us, but with everybody versus whoever did somebody?

870
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: So it was Kendrick, it was Tupac, it was a

871
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: Snoop versus. Then it was it was ice Cube, no Vassiline,

872
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: all on one mix like that. I didn't hear. I

873
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: ain't heard that put that in there. Put they not

874
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: like us, Tupac, ice Cube, Snoop, They got all they

875
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: verses put together like that ship hard. I said, y'all

876
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: got that that mother hardlad jaw set it off. Used

877
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: to be soft. Now you just went soft first shows

878
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: damn with the heck k Yeah yeah, and then they

879
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: got Tupac hit him up on that. I'm like, Damn,

880
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: that was hard right there. They won't never get a clip. Yeah,

881
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: they keep it.

882
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 2: I want to hear it though it's on the internet.

883
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: I love him. That's my boy right there. Kendrick made

884
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: it happen. You know what I'm saying. From when he

885
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: was first starting to now. You know, he made a

886
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: song a long time ago that I heard that he

887
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: was giving it up for me, like he appreciated my music,

888
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: and it's a tribute song to me, you know what

889
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I got that in my archives. You

890
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And just I'm happy for all

891
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: West Coast artists and all artists who can accomplish things.

892
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. From going from nothing and

893
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: nothing and using their word play and you know him

894
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: and Corrupt his best friends, and he learned from corrupt.

895
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Ye I ain't know that, Yeah,

896
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's what you know. He learned from corrupt.

897
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: You know word play, you know, Corrupt good with the

898
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: words and ship like that. You know, shut out the

899
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: top dog. You know what I'm saying, just moving around

900
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: and you know, like I say, TD is moving right now.

901
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. From Sissy to Kendrick, schoolboy,

902
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: all of them. You know what I'm saying. So everybody,

903
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and he the most gagerous

904
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: nigga that don't get in no trouble top.

905
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying coolst shit. I just he decided to

906
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: set the concert last.

907
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: Week and he got me some tickets in Atlanta too.

908
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: What was your role in the above the Rim soundtrack producer?

909
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: I started it off at first, you know what I'm saying.

910
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm always the one to kick it off, doing the

911
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: songs and giving them the idea, and they're like, Oh,

912
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: that's ship tight, you're gonna do that, and I know

913
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm about to ida did pain anything for murder? Was

914
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: the case? Had took a picture? I'm like, damn, this

915
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: is a hard ass picture for murder? Was the case?

916
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: And then they turned them up sucker to an album cover?

917
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 1: You did pain? Not to do pain? That be hard?

918
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: Too hard that I think stretching him? Did that be pain? Crazy?

919
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,959
Speaker 2: What do you think about beef these days as a whole,

920
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 2: because beef used to mean different ship when you guys

921
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 2: is beefing something like the Drake and the Kendrick beat

922
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: in general?

923
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 1: Just how everybody get killed? Well, everybody cool? Ain't nobody

924
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: get killed? Back then? It didn't have no internet, so

925
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: you just like when you seen them, it was just action.

926
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Wasn't no Internet back then.

927
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: We were selling the CDs, consignment, tower records and stuff

928
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: like that. Door the door, Yeah, do the door in

929
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: the head comeback.

930
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 3: As soon as the first motherfucker found social media and

931
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: final he can hate on people and not have to.

932
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: Pay for it personally, the whole world. I haters start

933
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: doing it shit and you got your favorite CD and

934
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: your homework, come over and snatch your motherfucking CD. All hell,

935
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: break a little nigga see a CD. I'm getting that now.

936
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 3: Celebrities doing it hating on people because they can throw

937
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 3: a rock and hide they hand. You know what I'm saying,

938
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: what social.

939
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: Media is done trying to stay off there, you know,

940
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: just promote the music and.

941
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 2: You're get in trouble with you following everything. What is

942
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 2: your thoughts on that? Because obviously you come from the

943
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 2: cold and the cloth, but all the all the streets stuff,

944
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 2: people telling us, all the talking that's going on on

945
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: these days on that side of the of the podcast space.

946
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: It's not about what you're talking about, how you do it,

947
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: and you know, being'tna telling yourself what your woman cheating.

948
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 3: Were under the old lort though. A lot of shit

949
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 3: is foreign to us, so Nick can't speak on it.

950
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: That's the young guys crazy so far into It's like

951
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: it's not all young, it's it's it's crazy just to

952
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: see what's been.

953
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: When they tell on you like that, I mean they

954
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: hate tell all you've been.

955
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 2: There, Showtime Lakers, the Forum Club, it was definitely talk

956
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 2: to us about that era.

957
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: I mean, you know Norm Nixon, you know what I'm saying.

958
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: Coop to do you know what I'm saying. A C. Green,

959
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson, just.

960
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: The whole young boy back then, just.

961
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: Going up with that. That's when the former is blue.

962
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.

963
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: And now, did you hoop it all? I played a

964
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: little bit? Cut it out? You played football? You know

965
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: hood football? You hoop? You said hood hoop? Yeah? Hood?

966
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: I getting there and do some block, But I really wouldn't.

967
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 1: I was just I was more into you know, street ship. Yeah,

968
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. The Homeboys they do and

969
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: we just make sure everybody was straight. I was just

970
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: a young nigga that hung around a lot of old

971
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: niggas that watched old niggas make mistakes, and I made

972
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: write mistakes by learning from what not to do, but

973
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: not on this side of the street, you know what

974
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And just learn how your instincts your heart,

975
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: and it's gonna flutter in you. It's gonna let you know.

976
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, But just learning.

977
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 2: Willie McGinnis is in the same areas, y'all right, yeap?

978
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 2: What was he like as an athlete in high school?

979
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: He was? He was a ship in high school, you

980
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And uh, from the same neighborhood,

981
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: you know, and he did it. You know what I'm saying.

982
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 4: They got a couple of Willy g from two up

983
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 4: from twenty five Street.

984
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah what I'm saying, yeah two one. You know he

985
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: got a Super Bowl rings and ship like that. You

986
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's a big accomplish. You know

987
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Long shit, But you know the world

988
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 1: don't not really know that. You know what I'm saying

989
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: to you? Tell him like you know, Willie mcginnons from

990
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: Long Beach too, You know what I'm saying, Cameron Diaz

991
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: and all other ship. You know what I'm saying it's

992
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people from Long.

993
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: Beach real estate. When did you I mean that's what

994
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 2: really when I really started seeing you kind of talking

995
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: the game and dropping gems on Instagram and I kind

996
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: of started really paying attention more, like when did that

997
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: become a passion? And talk to us a little bit

998
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 2: of what you're willing to share about your real estate

999
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 2: projects and how you came about them.

1000
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: Well, like I be telling all my homeboys, what is

1001
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: the most important thing of life somewhere to live a

1002
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: roof over your head? You know what I'm saying. You

1003
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: have to have a roof over your head. So that's

1004
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: the number one money making for me, is you got

1005
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: to pay that every month. They put you in a

1006
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: mortgage for thirty years. You might not even get to

1007
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: see thirty years. But whoever living in that house, if

1008
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: you pass, they got to qualify. That means you fin

1009
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: to get evicted and they finn move somebody else in

1010
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: here that got that money to put down on this

1011
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: house that y'all was living in for years. You know

1012
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So real estate just showed me that, Hey,

1013
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: that's a constant money move, money maker On a twenty eighth,

1014
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: the money should be coming in for the first and

1015
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: after the first is a late fee, you know what

1016
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: I mean. And if you don't pay your mortgage, they

1017
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: kicking your ass out the fuck out quick and you

1018
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: donet lost your money, and you got to get put

1019
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 1: into a fixed mortgage. Sometimes people don't have a fixed mortgage.

1020
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: So you're paying a thousand dollar a day. Next week

1021
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: it might be four thousand and you know what I'm saying,

1022
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: Or they even sold it to somebody else, the loan

1023
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,919
Speaker 1: to somebody else like that. So I learned go down

1024
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: to the auction tax the linkment sales and buy property

1025
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: and then you wait a year because if you wait

1026
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: a year, the person that lost their property got to

1027
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: come back and pay that money back to you plus

1028
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: twenty five percent on the dollar. So you're making your

1029
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: money back, but they don't come back and get the property.

1030
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: So you got it now. And it's about your building

1031
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 1: getting the survey, you know what I'm saying, and going

1032
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: to get your plans for your house, you know what

1033
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: I mean, And go get the concrete. See how much

1034
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: that is. Because in Georgia, if you're the homeowner, you're

1035
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: the contractor. I don't need a contractor to help me

1036
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: pay this dude to go do all this. All I

1037
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 1: gotta do is go downtown, get to permit seventy five dollars.

1038
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: I want to put the gate up seventy five dollars.

1039
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: I want to reconstruct it one hundred and twenty five dollars.

1040
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: Now I gotta go see how much the yard of

1041
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: concrete is and go get me some workers that know

1042
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: how to do that, you know what I'm saying, And

1043
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: just sit there and watch him. And that's what my cousin,

1044
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 1: Big Jeff. Come in there. Shut out the Big Jeff.

1045
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: He'll like colonel in the military. You know, he built

1046
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: his house. He got a twenty five bedroom house Georgia.

1047
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. On two wakings, you know

1048
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And just learning that made me really

1049
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: like I love construction, pitch butt NECKD. I ain't even

1050
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: a look at him and look at this construction over

1051
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: here because I like that. That's gonna get me to

1052
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: get BUTTNECKD. But you get him my house, the way

1053
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: it's built up in here. You know, dry wall, you

1054
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean, shaving it down stairs, pov on

1055
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: the floor. You know what I'm saying pipes and all that.

1056
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: You know, you learn all that. So that's what my

1057
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: joy is. Construction. I got a construction contract and license,

1058
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: and I just build on my own property. I ain't

1059
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: got to build on nobody else's property because I got

1060
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: enough property.

1061
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 2: Bottle, you bought some nice properties out there. What are

1062
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: some of the you were telling us? Obviously World covers

1063
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 2: heading out there in twenty six excuse me, Fifa, And

1064
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 2: you have a property where it's a big house.

1065
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: And the dog Pound Muzum resort. Talk to us about

1066
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: that dogund Museum resort. It's an airbnb. But I'm making

1067
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: like my own hotel, which I got my own website

1068
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: that's getting built so you can go direct. So I

1069
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: have the big house, which is a forty five hundred

1070
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: square foot house, three stories. I got a club at

1071
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: the bottom, second floors lounging with a computer room, and

1072
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: then upstairs it's three bedrooms, one big bedroom with three

1073
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 1: King Stars beds put together. And then I got another

1074
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: bed room that's a jack and jail bedroom. And then

1075
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 1: outside I got villas like ten villas, the Tupac Villa,

1076
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: Snoop Villa, the dog Pound Villa, Warren g, DJ, Quick,

1077
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: ice Cube, all my favorite rappers. Now, you know stuff

1078
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: like that where you can go build I mean you

1079
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: can go rent those villas for Airbnb. But they got

1080
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 1: stuff like this here, but just all they pictures in there.

1081
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: You don't even see the white drywalls, just all pictures

1082
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 1: in there. And then I got like comforters and sheets

1083
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: with their pictures on it. That's made so when you

1084
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: want to go to airbb, you could order the bed

1085
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: set and take it home with you. You know what

1086
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And just that experience like that, and you

1087
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: can pay for me to be on a property, because

1088
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on a property anyway. So i'mna be

1089
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: watching you, but you can play. You know, I interact

1090
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: with you a couple of times. You know what I'm saying,

1091
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: Take a couple of pictures with you. You know what

1092
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Got a smoke room outside, you know what

1093
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying. All that. You know what I'm saying. Want

1094
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: to buy a dog, a rock Waller white at it.

1095
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Want a chicken? Want a

1096
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: goat one stop shot? You know what I'm saying. Everything

1097
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: I said Rock Waller American and German. You know what

1098
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Which ones got a bigger one? The Germans

1099
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: just big. They got a big here. I got one

1100
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: named Max. He hard haired hat to get a big

1101
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: boat chained yesterday and my boy go over there. I

1102
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: needed to go over there to the house and chain

1103
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: him up because he just broke out ten times. What

1104
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: do you wear held at least about one hundred and

1105
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: thirty pounds I got. I got one bout one forty five.

1106
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: I feed that Nigga roest for chickens and everything. You know.

1107
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: I go to Sam's Club, get them foak them four

1108
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: dollar chickens. They got up in there, said to me,

1109
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 1: gonna buy some dog food, and all that is my dog.

1110
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: You can't give them money or something like you want

1111
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: this treat then, like Nigga was the chicken that roast beef.

1112
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: You know, we feed our dog because you know down

1113
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: south in Georgia, they got like Krogers and all the mood,

1114
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 1: you know, all the meat that's finna be rotten, and

1115
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: they sell it to us. So we just go get

1116
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: a big old pot and throw all that meat up

1117
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: in there, cook it and give it to the dogs.

1118
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and that's how they get

1119
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 1: so bulky. My wife cooked with my dogs every day.

1120
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that, Bill jack carriage, rice, scrambled eggs, eggs, shills, all.

1121
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: Kinds of shipping there for them dogs. Bro, they eat

1122
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: it up for.

1123
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 4: Me every day though, in the food the dogs every day.

1124
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: Ain't that a bitch? And they and then Rockwaller's loyal too.

1125
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: They want to eat. Construction is the way, the way

1126
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: of life, you know what I'm saying, Just learning that

1127
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: and everything. I went and bought a bobcat. I got

1128
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: an excavator instead of me rinting somebody else that anytime

1129
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: I want to and dig me a hole like boost.

1130
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 4: I know where the bobcat is, right, Everybody, we built,

1131
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 4: not the cat.

1132
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: I had a house up and sack.

1133
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 2: We built the whole backyard out the pool, the basketball court.

1134
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 2: We made a little motherfucking jump track because I had

1135
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 2: like a half acre in front, so we cut the

1136
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 2: top off a camera, made them jumps in front of

1137
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: the house.

1138
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: And like that was funough man come to life.

1139
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 2: Man. I was in my early twenties too. We seen

1140
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 2: all that jackass ship, Like boy, we were wow. Anyways,

1141
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 2: quick hitters first thing to come to mind. Let us

1142
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 2: know an album.

1143
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: You can listen to with no skips, Anita Baker, that

1144
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: Songstress album, Uh, the Chronic album. You know some Luther.

1145
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: I like some Antonio, Joe Bean, you know, I like jazz.

1146
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: I like all kind of music my producer, so you know,

1147
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: I could listen to anything anything. Yeah, who was your

1148
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 1: childhood crush? Dan? The Russ was bad and she was bad,

1149
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, as a youngster, and then you get older

1150
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: and then you go to Holly Berry when she had

1151
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: the little short haircut. Lord, and you know what I'm saying.

1152
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: And uh, just any woman with some ass, you know

1153
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: what I mean? I feel, you know, growing up like damn,

1154
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: she's bad. You know, the school teachers she's bad as

1155
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: well as you know, just learning and growing up, you

1156
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

1157
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 2: Can you give me your your top three favorite songs

1158
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: you've made?

1159
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: Tupac of course, Snoop Dogg and like Helter Skelter. You

1160
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: heard it in that rep room rocking them Shine Price. Yeah.

1161
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: I mean my catalog goes, you know, with scar Face.

1162
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: I got something with scar Face. I got you know,

1163
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: I got a song with Biggie that never came out.

1164
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: That I got it on a on a on a

1165
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: what's that called it? A track?

1166
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: A that fuck?

1167
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: That equipment is so old and that that machine yeah

1168
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: put all so you know it's like that, just a

1169
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: bunch of just a bunch of music and stuff. And

1170
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta remixes with Kenny Lattimore than I did,

1171
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 1: and you know that could you never find another love

1172
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 1: as good I did that remix back in the days.

1173
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: You know, a bunch of remix was good back then.

1174
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: If he was the remix king, it was different back then.

1175
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: And most definitely Top five producers, Top five producers, Doctor Dre,

1176
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: DJ Quick, Myself, Easy More, be Hangs, Shockley and the

1177
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: Bomb Squad back and then I got a bunch of

1178
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: slewer people because everybody do something different, you know what

1179
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like Sir Jinks, and you know other producers

1180
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: that I learned from, and you know, Quincy Jones like

1181
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: number one. Then Doctor Dre. You know what I'm saying

1182
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: as far as that, you know, because he worked with

1183
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra and jazz and all that, and just said,

1184
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: my mother, you know what I'm saying, the way she

1185
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: writes songs and put it together like that you know

1186
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that's where I learned from, you know,

1187
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: how to play the piano, and that my daughter played

1188
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: the piano. Her name is Dadsmin de Leon. She like,

1189
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: she like fuck making records, and I'm finna make keyboards.

1190
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. When people bought the keyboards,

1191
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: and then she got sponsors and you know, apps and

1192
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So, you know, just different things in life.

1193
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. To generate, you know, generate well,

1194
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 1: passive income.

1195
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 3: You can say, you producing the record, give me build

1196
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 3: a dream team of rappers that you will on three rappers,

1197
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 3: and you produce.

1198
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: The three rappers I produced, Uh ship, I liked it.

1199
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: I like, uh the Fat Boys, and I had I

1200
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: mean beatboxing, you know what I'm saying. And who was

1201
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: that movie they had?

1202
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 2: Disorderly Crush Grow Crush Groove.

1203
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: Was the movie? Yeah? About them? It was about them?

1204
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And I knew Prins Markey d Yeah and

1205
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: Koki and you know what I'm saying, the Human beat

1206
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: Box YEP, Dougie Fresh most definitely, you know what I'm saying.

1207
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: And run DMC. I take it back to the old school.

1208
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and then everybody else be

1209
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: added on, like Cool Mold D and everybody else like that.

1210
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 2: The East Coast, West Coast time, Where did where did you?

1211
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: Where did you? What made you want to get back

1212
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 2: and start working with them?

1213
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: I always work with them. Okay, we worked with Nas,

1214
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And we had to the

1215
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: song with Nas, and then two By came in and

1216
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: heard it. I'm taking over his part. No, so I

1217
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 1: put both versions out. It's called Don't Stop. So you

1218
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: go on the internet you can find that. And just

1219
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: you know, we always been cool with the East Coast,

1220
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It was just everybody else's problems.

1221
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 2: One artist he never got to work with, but wish

1222
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: you would have got the opportunity to.

1223
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: We've seen that one time, you know. And Michael Jackson,

1224
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: you know we've seen him. We smoked him out, really yeah.

1225
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: You know he was at the award show. He's sticking

1226
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: the Hey, y'all, dog, you want to hit them? You know,

1227
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: our trailer was right next to his thing and wherever

1228
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: his people was, and we was just that was back

1229
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 1: when we was young. We were smoking zig zaggs. Then

1230
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: he was blowing it out. Ye. And then Don Kneius

1231
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: walked back there, told, hey, y'all got the chill eye.

1232
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: I was got a soul training thing, you know, soul

1233
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: trading back then Big Dome rest in peace. Yeah, And

1234
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: I've been through. We went through the history of all

1235
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: the music business. You know what I'm saying, because back

1236
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: then we was hanging with like the Ohio players, sugar

1237
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: Foot and all them, George Clinton and Boosty Collins and

1238
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: all that. And that's what we was hanging with when

1239
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: we was coming up in the rap game. That's what

1240
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: we admire.

1241
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, what's this journey? I mean,

1242
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 2: you're fifty, you made fifty fifty two. Life is good,

1243
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 2: family business, spiritually line. But what's when you look back

1244
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: at the journey? Because I think as athletes, while we're

1245
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: in it and knows what's next, you had the kind

1246
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: of time to step away find some other passions. But

1247
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 2: when you look back and your name in some legendary

1248
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: times and names like, what is this journey meant to you?

1249
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: What is the journey meant to me? Elevation, just being grateful,

1250
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: just learning more. You know what I'm saying. I'm not

1251
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: done learning. I could learn from a two year old.

1252
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's just about you taking

1253
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: heed to what needs to be done and to learn

1254
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: from and and share. Be humble. You know what I'm saying.

1255
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: Is it your own reflection? Is your reflection? Is you

1256
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: what's gonna come back to you? You be a fucked

1257
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: up person. You might hit your toe on a mother

1258
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 1: fucking cheer or something. Now I gotta go back, put

1259
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: my clothes off, get back in the bed, get back

1260
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: up again, and restart myself. That's how I do it.

1261
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: If I get up and hit my toe and said

1262
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: some I'm gonna be a fucked up day to day.

1263
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: Let me get back in the Yeah, let me reverse

1264
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: back and get back in the bed. Yeah, you know,

1265
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: hit my toe like fucks. So you know it's about regrouping,

1266
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and try again. But just

1267
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: being humble with you. You know what I'm saying, because everything

1268
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: come back to you. You know what I'm saying. What's

1269
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: your guilty pleasure? Not knowing enough? So I need to

1270
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: know more. I got my reader. Yeah, I read a lot,

1271
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: and I always tell my own boy. If you know

1272
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: what you got, you ain't got much, So keep acquiring

1273
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: things and then you go back and see, oh yeah

1274
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: I got this, I got that. It's like going back

1275
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: in your cloth you're finding three four hundred dollars in

1276
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: your pocket, you know what I'm saying, Or finding that

1277
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: bag of weed that you say you lost ten months ago. Fat.

1278
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: You know, if you know what you got, then you

1279
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:08,959
Speaker 1: ain't got much.

1280
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Speaker 3: If you can see one guest on our show, who

1281
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 3: would it be? But you have to help us get

1282
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 3: your answer on the show.

1283
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: Got Michael Jordan on the show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah we trying, he said, And now he said he was,

1285
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 4: but we ain't got him.

1286
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: He caught me, He's gonna do. He started talking. Now

1287
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: as I'm saying, finna get some money. Ain't nobody heard

1288
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: him talk. They just heard him talking ship to motherfuckers.

1289
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: All with the old ass gate that you got on.

1290
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Speaker 3: It's good that the young, the young guys get to

1291
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 3: hear Mike talk about the basketball landscape today.

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Speaker 1: And most definitely you know what I'm saying. You know,

1293
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: just how did you know the shoes? And you know what

1294
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And how did you accumulate that for so

1295
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: years that you own? You know what I'm saying all that.

1296
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's just a great thing

1297
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: to hear him talk because you can learn a lot

1298
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: of game because he don't do a lot of talking.

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Speaker 1: He all action.

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Speaker 2: He was definitely all well dads, man, we appreciate you,

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01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 2: and I appreciate y'all too. Man sometime with us, but

1302
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: it's really your contribution to the to the to the space,

1303
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 2: to our child.

1304
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: I'll be watching my man right here. Be active as man.

1305
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. In all the neighborhoods and

1306
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: all the police business, making sure they doing the right thing.

1307
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, talking ship to them in

1308
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: the neighborhood, Floyd, big up for all that all you do, man,

1309
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, keep our people going in

1310
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: and formed because you ain't to be fucked with. They

1311
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: finn pull in a wool or you're most forging talk

1312
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: to you know what I mean. That's where you're learning from.

1313
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: You learned from, you appreciate you. That's a rap man, Dads.

1314
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: Dad's all smoke, baby, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: You can catch on all the Spokes productions YouTube and

1316
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 2: the Draft Kings Network see y'all next week.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm