1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast, Does it slip in the shower? 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansus, and I'm joined by room 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: philled with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosatal. 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: What's up, boys, Hey, what's happening? Let's hear it for 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: the bus. I always, I always enjoy how the opening 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: of the show, the tone of Dan's voice you can 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: tell if either the Patriots have lost, where the Jets 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: have won that day, and we know the Jets are 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: out done for the season. So one of those things happened. Yes, 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: well spoiler alert, Yeah, the Patriots lost on Sunday, and uh, 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: as I promised Greg, I I'm you know, I'm not 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: being a jerk. I never rubbed anything in everybody. I 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: was getting a ton of tweets. Oh, you must be 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: really giving it to Greg right now? What am I 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: effing monster? No, I'm I don't do that. That's the 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: fan code. You don't do that. Oh, sometimes people do it. 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: But if we had to tape this, well they're monsters 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: right after the game, then you know it'd be a 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: little surlier. The emotions are rob but we had that 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: entire beat down by the Panthers to watch for well, 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: and also you're not a cool down, You're not invested. 23 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: Admittedly you're not really like I was crushed when the 24 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: Jets lost a regular season game to miss the playoffs. 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: Like eight hours later, you're already kind of over. You 26 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: seem to take it very well well, that it's all 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: of a side, it's all on the inside. I was like, 28 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: you're gonna go home and like shed tears. Well now 29 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: at this point, I've I've started to move on. But 30 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: the during the game two hours after the game, it 31 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: was it's four or five, right, But it's the tightness 32 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: during the game and the tension during the game, and 33 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: the pain during the game is real. Uh that was 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: That's about as painful loss as there's been. Those are 35 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: again foreshadowing clouds rolling into Foxboro and some storms I 36 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: have I've pushed down some of that fandom, But once 37 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: you get to the final four, I mean, these are 38 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: the kind of the games where you can't you can't 39 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: help playing with when you're this close, When you're this close. 40 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: Have I mentioned, by the way, um that this podcast 41 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: is presented by Scott Trade. Wow, Scott Trade you want 42 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: you like money, West, I need more of it. But yes, 43 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: well I like the little that I have. West. I'm 44 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: trying to get a catchphrase. Gone here you like money? 45 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: Was absolutely you want more of it, no question. I 46 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: called my friends Scott Trade. That's how you get more money. 47 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: There you go, West, Bang, That's what I've been missing 48 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: out on all along, Scott Trade. Mark, you've been quiet 49 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: so far. Um tough, tough day for you. Obviously, we'll 50 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: get into it. Big day for Peyton Manning your pats 51 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: go out. You know, well, all of that is incorrect. 52 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: I mean I thought they were. I was expecting two classics, 53 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: especially the late game, and we can get into it. 54 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: But that game was a stinker. So you know the 55 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: late game we Yeah, it just shows we don't know anything. 56 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: I think everyone in our predictions. I think they were 57 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: all high scoring one point games. Basically, I think Mark 58 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: West and I have thirty one thirty with a flip 59 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: and who would win. Mark saw an eighty eight yard 60 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: Cam Newton touchdown run and overtime to win it. Greg 61 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: stopped doing pick So I don't remember what Cardinals in 62 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: a close one, but that game was anything but close. 63 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: We'll get to that obviously. So we're gonna get to 64 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: the New England Denver game, We'll get to the Carolina 65 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: Arizona game. We will check in on our prop bets 66 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: that we made on Thursday, our Thursday O our go 67 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: get my lunch, Go get my lunch, your human garbage. Uh, 68 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: and then we'll will peak ahead of the super Bowl. 69 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: There's two weeks until the game, and of course we 70 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: will as a groupie going to San Francisco. Hashtag blessed um. 71 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: So you know, Mark disgusted by me right now? Eyes 72 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: at me. I don't know if that you know? Hashtag 73 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: this is our job. This is what we do. We 74 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: just roll in and do our job. Got you, all right? 75 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: So why has a submerne low level discussed for something? 76 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: Right now? I don't know what it is. Get off 77 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: your chest. Over analysis, which is also incorrect, is a 78 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: problem where eight minutes into the show, let's start analyzing 79 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: things correctly, all right, that's fair, So let's get into it. 80 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to the bottom of this by the 81 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: end of the I mean, I don't understand why you 82 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: know the nitpicking is going on already. Let's just get 83 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: into the games, right We'll start at Mile High and uh, 84 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: a game in which the New England Patriots, the defending 85 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions, entered this game's favorites. All four of us, 86 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: for instance, picked the Pats to win the game. Uh. 87 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: But immediately, gentlemen, things didn't play out the way a 88 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: lot of people expected. The Broncos scored two quick first 89 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: half touchdowns, taking advantage of some shoddy play from paid 90 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. But it wasn't really on Tom Brady necessarily, 91 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: at least not completely. He took up beating in this game, 92 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: a savage beating. In fact, he was hit twenty times 93 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: in this game, sacked a bunch, pressured into throws. The 94 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: Denver defend some line and secondary really, son of bum 95 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: Wade Phillips deserves a lot of credit. They got the 96 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: job done. And then near the end of the game, 97 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: after the Broncos offense Greg sputtered out, it gave Tom 98 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: Brady one last chance. At the end of the game, 99 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: he leads the Patriots down the field converts a fourth 100 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: and ten to Rob Gronkowski. I mean, what, what an 101 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: amazing player. That's one of the best players of Brady 102 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: and Gronk's career. Absolutely um and you know even as 103 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: Tom Brady Hayter like myself, how can you not respect 104 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: the guy for what he was able to do, gets 105 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: him in the red zone, then hooks up again with 106 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: Gronk on a play where Gronk just showed off why 107 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: he's a man amongst boys. Uh. Then they needed two 108 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: point conversion. They can't convert the two point conversion and 109 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: that was it on side kick recovery by Denveren. The 110 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: Broncos going to the Super Bowl for the second time 111 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: in three years and the Pats going home. Chris Westling 112 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: get us going your thoughts about this game which did 113 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: not play out. How we or a lot of other 114 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: people thought, when's the last time you saw three players 115 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: combined for fifteen quarterback hits? Von Miller owned Marcus Cannon, 116 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: Derek Wolfe is starting to channel J. J. Watt over 117 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: the last month, and DeMarcus Ware had seven hits on 118 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. It was an incredible performance by the Broncos defense. 119 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: I doubted that they were still dominant, and they showed 120 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: today that they This was the best game they've played 121 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: since succept since September. On defense, I think and and 122 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: I talked about it this week that the players are 123 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,119 Speaker 1: there to have that sort of performance that they've shown. 124 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: I always think with it. With a great team who've 125 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: shown greatness and the players are there, they always have 126 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: a potential to have that sort of game. And you 127 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: said it, that's exactly what happened. Fifteen quarterback hits. That's 128 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: the most any team has had in the NFL this 129 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: year before this game, and that's what just those three 130 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: players had and what it ended up with twenty you 131 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: wrote about it. That's the most since Charlie Fry got 132 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: hit twenty times ten years ago by the Ravens. And 133 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: you gotta give Todd Brady credit. He's a thirty eight 134 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: year old man. He's been playing this league for sixteen years. 135 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: To even survive this game just shows you what a 136 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: competitor he is. That's all survive it. And that's why 137 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: that's one reason why it hurts so much. One is 138 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: they could have They could have won this game. I 139 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: think you get to a neutral field, I would have 140 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: loved to see what they could do against Carolina. Just 141 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: what a game that could have been. But the thing is, 142 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: they get into scoring position three times in the last 143 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: seven minutes, so they were knocking on the door the 144 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: one fourth down doesn't work, they get down there again, 145 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: stopped again on the fourth and one, and then they 146 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: get down again with one of the best players in 147 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: Brady's career to Gronk, and then a total miracle play 148 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: by Gronk on fourth and sixth at the goal line, 149 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: and suddenly you're within two points and you're that close 150 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: to what would have been maybe the most epic comeback 151 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: or finished in Brady's career, and there's been been a lot. 152 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: I mean, they had that right there on the table. Yeah, 153 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: But I also think this game completely revealed a Patriots 154 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: team that is too banged up. Their offensive line was 155 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: a nice story. You're shuffling players around North than any 156 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: team in the NFL. But what they did last week, 157 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: which has come out with a quick pass attack and 158 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: essentially scrapped the run game, you can't do that against 159 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: this defense. And we did. We all picked the Patriots, 160 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: but we weren't disrespecting Denver's defense during the week, and 161 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: there were questions about ken Brady repeat what they did 162 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,679 Speaker 1: against the Chiefs this time, and absolutely not. The Chiefs 163 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: have a good pass rush, they never got to him. 164 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: Completely different story today. I mean, we watched Marcus Cannon 165 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: get turnstyled over and over by Von Miller, who was 166 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: dominant today. Absolutely, it went beyond the pass rush. You're 167 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: seeing some of these plays right now. Julian Edelman and 168 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: Danny Amendula got crushed on slants and crossing routes by 169 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: uh By t J Ward and Darien Stewart, and then 170 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: even uh shy Loko had a big hit. Well, Silo 171 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: Ko was a big part of the final play, and 172 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: we might as well talk about that now because I 173 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: thought it was a fitting end to the game. Tom 174 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: Brady made a bad decision because pressure came quickly in 175 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: his face to Marcus where was coming after him, and 176 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: then Brandon Marshall, the linebacker was coming after him, and 177 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: he decided to throw across his body to Julian Edelman. 178 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: I think Patriots fans and Tom Brady when when they 179 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: see the all twenty two of that play, you see 180 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski getting single covered by Shylokale, and you see 181 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski with a whole lot of a lot of 182 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: grass in front of him running to to the side 183 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: of the piline, and Phil Sims totally botched it. So 184 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: people I think missed it when he was talking about 185 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: the replay. But that's one of those just what if 186 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: type of moments that if Brady his vision had just 187 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: kind of go to his secondary receiver, which was Gronk, 188 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: maybe he makes that play. Well, what about the what 189 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: if moments where he kept missing James White? And James 190 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: White is culpable for what we're essentially sort of drops 191 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: or wasn't there on target? I mean, it was one 192 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: play after the next. But that's part of the problem. 193 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: When you're targeting a limited player like James White on 194 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: deep deep balls down the sideline and he's you can't 195 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: expect them to make all those plays out. And by 196 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: the way, let me just go back to the two 197 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: point conversion. Greg, you had that freeze framed on your 198 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: screen at you're esk so before we completely right off, 199 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: Greg as a Pats fan that was sticking with him 200 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: hours after the game. You just you see Gronks single 201 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: teams in your dreams, don't you? I do? I mean, 202 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: I I froze it because I wanted people to see it. 203 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: Just seems like I got lost in the shuffle right there, 204 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: that that that they had a chance on that play, 205 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: Uh to make a little history to send it to overtime. 206 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: Wouldn't have that been delicious. But the Broncos into the 207 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: James White play, some of those players didn't work because 208 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: Brady had to throw the ball too quickly too, and 209 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: that's on the pastors. It was a mirror. It's amazing 210 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: that the Patriots, for everything that went wrong in this game, 211 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: out gained Denver by ninety yards and we're in that 212 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: position to take a lead in the fourth quarter. It's 213 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: amazing that that they believed James White was by far 214 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: their best offensive option at that point, and yeah, they 215 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: kept going. It's amazing, but it's also part and parcel 216 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: of what we talked about with the Broncos, which their 217 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: offense is not the reason they're in the Super Bowl 218 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: on any level, and they're gonna have to find a 219 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: way of their defense to neutralize Cam Newton and that 220 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: Carolina attack because it was the Denver offense that had 221 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: chance over and over in the fourth quarter to end 222 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: this thing, and they kept giving the ball back to 223 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: Brady one time after the next. If you're a Broncos fan, 224 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: that is concerning. It was maddening to watch that. They 225 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: they played scared, but I think they they definitely took 226 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: the air out of the ball. They they Peyton Manning 227 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: has done a great job over the last two weeks 228 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: not killing the team with mistakes, and I think they 229 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: they were felt probably if I'm thinking I'm the Broncos 230 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: coaching staff. We got two touchdowns out of Peyton in 231 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: the first half. We think we've scored enough points to 232 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: let the defense hold it up. We are not gonna 233 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: do anything to let this game slip away because our 234 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: quarterback made a mistake. That's how it seemed to me. 235 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: I would be a little nervous still from a Broncos fan, 236 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: because the offense did nothing in the second half. We'll 237 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: get more into Payton's first half in a second. Gregor, Well, 238 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: just that they're the best closers in the NFL. You know, 239 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: we can say they're lucky, but they've beaten playoff team 240 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: after playoff team in the fourth quarter. They're a good 241 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: team with the lead, I believe, because they're a running 242 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: game and because of their defense, and that lets the 243 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: pass rushers go. And that's why Bill Belichick took the 244 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: ball first. Because there's such a good team with the lead. 245 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: The Patriots wanted to get out on top so I 246 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: think Gary Kubiak, when he's got a lead, is thinking, 247 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna, like you said, make sure we don't make 248 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: a mistake. And if we you know, we're just gonna 249 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: be very conservative. If we happen to give up a lead, 250 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: we're only gonna be down what two or three points, 251 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: and we've shown we can make that come back. Well. 252 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: They might be the best closers in the a f C. 253 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm not the NFL. I mean, the best gains by 254 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: seven points or less. That's what I'm most in NFL history. 255 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying is whether you can say it's 256 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: a little lucky, but whatever you want to call it, 257 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: mojo what they believe they're gonna win close games because 258 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: they do it every single time. You weren't concerned though, 259 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: by the offense going three and out? Was there toned? 260 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: I just some asking from a next game when you 261 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: play a team like that. We haven't we haven't even 262 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: mentioned their special teams. They were dominant on spec teams 263 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: against the Steelers. That was the difference in that game. 264 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: And then today Goskalki misses the extra point while McManus 265 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: has hit drilling fifty two yard field goals in the 266 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: field position. How many games did how many drives did 267 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: Brady start in the shadow of his own goal? On? Yes, 268 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: that Gastowski miss and this will be the season, the 269 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: first season where they moved back the post. You know, 270 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: he doesn't miss that if it's the old rules. So 271 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: in a way, Greg, the new rules directly led to 272 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 1: your boys going home conspiracy. I always like this rule 273 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: until now I don't now I'm kidding, But Gostkowski had 274 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: hit fifty five extra points this year. He hadn't missed 275 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: one since December thirty first, two thousand six, but that 276 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: was blocked. But that wasn't the same extra point, so 277 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: you can really only talk about this this year's extra point. 278 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: But that was fifty plus, so that's a pretty big 279 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: sample size. The odds on him missing that, and he 280 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: said after the game, you know, put it all on 281 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: me and I and with Peyton Manning. I think the 282 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: way I look at it, what he does was a 283 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: lot of credit for is basically, when they turned the 284 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: team over to brock Oswiler, they wanted to give it 285 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: to a young guy was a little more mobile, maybe 286 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: had you know, more upside at this point, and it 287 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: was like you know, make some plays, don't kill us, 288 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: and then we'll trust the rest of our team defense 289 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: and special teams. And to Kubiak's credit, he gave the 290 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: team back to Peyton, hoping Peyton would play ball on 291 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: this and take the step back and become just the 292 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: supporting player. And that's exactly what Manning's done. I give 293 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: him a ton of credit because I don't think a 294 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: guy like Brett Farve could have ever done this. I 295 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: don't know if there's a lot of star quarterbacks that 296 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: could really become a bit player the way Manning is 297 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: and be okay with the fact that they weren't giving 298 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: him a chance to close out that game in the 299 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: second half, and he did make the plays in the 300 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: first half. I mean that first drive he I mean 301 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: that looked like old Peyton lead and that dictated the 302 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: flow of the entire game. He made a he missed 303 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: the Manuel Sanders before that second touchdown pass, but then 304 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: then through a really pretty ball to uh Owen Daniels, 305 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: who was supposed to be eradicated by Brendan Davis. By 306 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: the way, that didn't work out. Jamie Collins is gonna 307 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: have nightmares about Owen Daniels of all people. So Peyton 308 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, uh legacy game. By 309 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: the way, guys, we talked about this like who this 310 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: loss would hurt more for the reason why? For it 311 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: kills Brady for me, because I think Peyton Manning now 312 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: is three and one, uh and this is not all quarterback, 313 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: but three and one quarterback or three and one of 314 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: the a C title game. It's still eleven six, I 315 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: believe overall. But to win three of the four title games, 316 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: that's big when you look back, uh down the line. 317 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: I really think that means something from Manning, and it's 318 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: a big it's a big picture of this. I think 319 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: if you're a Broncos fan, you can talk yourself into 320 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: being somewhat excited about Peyton Manning. You mentioned that opening 321 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: drive which looked like two thousand thirteen Manning, and I 322 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: thought his mobility was better today than it's been all year, 323 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: absolutely and scrambled for a first down. When I when 324 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: I was saying, is that a concern to me, It's 325 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: like that's missing the point. We'll get to that and 326 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: we'll we'll that'll play out, But today they're the a 327 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: f C champions. You know today you a week ago. 328 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: You guys were saying I didn't even believe the fact 329 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: that this was a tough mat for them, that I 330 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: didn't even want, but that I didn't even believe my 331 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: own talking that this was not the matchup they wanted 332 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: to see because the Broncos defense was so good. I 333 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: owe you an apology. You everything you said about this 334 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: game was true, that the Patriots offensive line was a 335 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: major for them, that Bronco's defensive line was incredible, and 336 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: then you mentioned the concerns about the Patriots running gaming. 337 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: You were dead on about all of it. And my 338 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: my point on on Manning was, I don't know what's 339 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Obviously, we never know what's gonna happen. But 340 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: it's a great achievement to win the a f C. 341 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: You guys are fans. You guys are fans of teams 342 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: like winning the a f C is a huge moment, 343 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: and especially this team in particular that's just so different, 344 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: and like you mentioned with Osweiler, it's a great moment 345 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: in Peyton Manning's history. No matter what justifies Kubiak's decision, 346 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he got killed in Osweiler was benched and 347 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of people were scratching their heads and 348 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: at work because Manning played well enough to help this 349 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: team win well. Kubiak handled it well by never closing 350 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: the door on either of his quarterbacks. Gregg, you were right. 351 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: You were right on all about this entire game. You 352 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: were completely right. That's what I figured it out. By 353 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: the way, that's not true, Mark, you're covering the a 354 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: f C in the Super Bowl, aren't you. Yeah, you're 355 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: covering Peyton Manning, the man you thought would be completely 356 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: wiped off the Facebook. No, but I asked to and 357 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: I said that honestly, that we're that's why you're a 358 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: little upset today. No, because we're Manning in this game. 359 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: I asked to cover because whether you're not, you think 360 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: I like Peyton Manning, It's it's absolutely historical. I'm not. 361 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: I'm not going to begrudge what he did today. I mean, 362 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: what what I don't, what I don't necessarily like, is 363 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: the idea of people framing this as Brady versus Manning. 364 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: We're not doing that in this game, in this studio. 365 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: We never have And so that's fine. I mean, it 366 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: is the rest of Denver's team that are playing a 367 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: big There's four or five factors on the Broncos that 368 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: are playing a much bigger role than Peyton Manning. His 369 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: job is to Matt and not make mistakes. And you're 370 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: absolutely right. He's not been a malcontent or been a 371 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: late period Bred Farve where it's all about him. That's 372 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: not been the case with man mean, so he deserves 373 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: credit for that. Well. This game is a great example 374 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: of that. It's not it is a team game because 375 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: clearly the Patriots have the advantage overall at quarterback. But 376 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: Brady made bigger mistakes early. I mean the two interceptions 377 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: that he had were on Brady. His passes were way 378 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: more oft than Mannings today. I mean his they were 379 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: his interceptions killed them in the first half. He doesn't 380 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: make those mental mistakes, they would have that a better 381 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: chance to make the comeback. And when he played well 382 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: in the second half, and then, like you mentioned, a 383 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: team sport, Derrek Wolfe was incredible. Von Miller, who I 384 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: said hasn't necessarily been playing at that J. J. Watt level, 385 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: had an all time type of game. Um. By the way, Greg, 386 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're interested. We looked, Um. I 387 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: checked in with Foxborough. I got a feed there I 388 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: wanted to check in just see what's going on over 389 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: at the Old Throne as sleeves on a very difficult 390 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: day in the region of New England, Brandon, do we 391 00:18:55,080 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: have that okay scenes okay? Oh oh no, oh no, 392 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: oh no, that's worse than before. Oh uh, that's troubling. 393 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: Oh wait, that feels like that's just not a sports 394 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: story at that point, that in massive body count. That's 395 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: a major national story international. There's probably hundreds of people 396 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: dead in that region, millions. Maybe you're honest when you 397 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: in New England that you know it's not as Massachusetts. 398 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: A lot of upset Patriots fans tonight, but you know what, 399 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: you Pats fans, and I started to see it again. 400 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: By the way, all the Pats is very quiet today. 401 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: I didn't hear much of my time today. I was 402 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: that was three hours of having your nails pulled off. 403 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: I mean because minute one that was a tough Really. 404 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 1: They have a lot of fun when they're winning, and 405 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: I didn't hear anything from them today. But you know, 406 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: that's how that works. That's how it works. I guess 407 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: that's how it works. Uh. They were going for the 408 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: back to back championship again. And that would have been cool. 409 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: You gotta I gotta go back to I gotta go 410 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: back to you know what I said last year that 411 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: it was all gravy after the fourth? Does it as 412 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: a patsman does the three to one title game thing? Bother? 413 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: You'll be honest, yeah, little no, not about the title game. 414 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: I mean, who cares. That's a weird line to pull. 415 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: You could say playoff wins because to me, the divisional 416 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: round game in two thousand three, when they were the 417 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: best two teams in the entire NFL and they stopped 418 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: the Cults, You're like, you're excluding that, So that's a 419 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: weird one too, Like it's weird. It's the highest level 420 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: of a f C playoff play And while Peyton Manning 421 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 1: and his head to head matchups has faltered typically in 422 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: that high I never really bought into that when it 423 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: was when it was the Brady Manning thing, when it 424 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: because Brady had a much better team. I never brought 425 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: in brought into it when it helped Brady. And now 426 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: like right now is that we're at a point where 427 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: Brady is a much better player. The thing that bothers 428 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: me more than anything is how close they were in 429 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: this game to getting back to another, and I think 430 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: this is a really good you know, it's a really 431 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: good Patriots defense. I mean, the bron was at fifteen drives. 432 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: I think they would have had a chance to win 433 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Well, there you go, it's over. You're okay, though. 434 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is you got all the wins in 435 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: the bank, you got the four titles. You've even said 436 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: it was gravy going into this season. Yeah, but once 437 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: I think once you get back to the once you 438 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: get to the five four, then that's thrown out of 439 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: the winter. Now you know what it's like to be Yankee. 440 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: That's now. You know all you've read Sox fans all 441 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: through the years, that's what it's like. You attempting to 442 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: drive pity for Yankees fans or something. You know, I'm saying, 443 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: no one should pity a Yankee fan, just like nobody 444 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: should pity a Patriots fan. But for a year, I'm 445 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: not gonna get got The von Miller interception was one 446 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: of the most the fact that he did that before 447 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: the QB hits Dog one of the best defense Like 448 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: big game defensive game performances were the most in a 449 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: single game in Broncos playoffs. A little bit nervous about 450 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: von Miller on media. I like him and in general, 451 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, a whole week of the media. I don't 452 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: know if he'll know he is the least of our problems. 453 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: Who do you think is the biggest problem? Like twenty 454 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: players on Caroline roster. I think the other the other 455 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: journalists acting like barnyard animals at meat super Bowl media Day, 456 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: that's the biggest. The worst place to ever put chrisma. 457 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: I don't even know the feet writer. Heat is gonna 458 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: be off the charts still man At alt Lighter media night, 459 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: can you just yeah, it's a it's a night this year? Um, 460 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: can you please don't even send West is just gonna 461 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: aggravate him. Just I can handle it, you can. I 462 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: can handle it. What was your Outlighter story? This is 463 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: the New York Super Bowl. Out Lighter is a former 464 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 1: baseball pitcher who now works for the Yankee Regional Network. 465 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: Yes what, he muscled his way to the front of 466 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: the line. Everybody's been waiting for twenty minutes to talk 467 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: to Noshan Marino and a Lighter big times. Everyone pushes 468 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: his way through sticks to microphone in his face, like 469 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: he's the most important guy at the place just because, Oh, 470 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: I throw left handed. Come on, give me a break. 471 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: I love that story just because it gets west. So 472 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: the other thing you got rationally angry is when his 473 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: cord starts annoying him, like watch you're watching on YouTube. 474 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: Don't put it back there. Look he starts to freak out. 475 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: Look at I'm freak We'll put it back there. Hey, 476 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: look outlighters, just representative all the rude reporters who were 477 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: there and don't need to be there. Like ten things 478 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: that drove me crazy at me, Oh, I kind of 479 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: like that. I think you might be twenty five things 480 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: that drove me crazy. So there you go. That is 481 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: the a f C Championship game. Let us now move 482 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: to the NFC side. This game was played in Charlotte 483 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: home field of bandage for the Panthers, of course, who 484 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 1: are nine and oh going into this game in their building. 485 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: Make it ten and oh the Panthers romp the Arizona Cardinals, Yes, 486 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: the team of around the NFL forty nine to fifteen 487 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: a game uh in Just like last week against Seattle, 488 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: Carolina jumped out to a fast start, went up seventeen 489 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: nothing um went into the half seven and then didn't 490 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: look back. Poured it on in the second half, scoring points. 491 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: No tight butts in this game. Uh and the story 492 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: of the game. Yes, Cam Newton, just as he's done 493 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: all year. Every time you turn up the lights, he 494 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: shines brighter. I mean, he is a special guy, having 495 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: a special season. Four touchdowns, but there's always goad horns 496 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer. This will be a hard one to shake 497 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: for Carson Palmer. Four interceptions, two lost bumbles. That is 498 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: six turnovers six of the seven Cardinals turnovers. Guys. Uh So, 499 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinals blown out, had their worst game of their 500 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: of the season when they really needed to play their best, 501 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: and the Carolina Panthers the superior team to again once 502 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: again our surprise. We all thought it would be close. 503 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: But Mark Sessler, the Panthers are the best team in 504 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: the NFC, and I guess it wasn't close. Yeah, it 505 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: wasn't close. I mean, I, for one of them stunned. 506 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: I picked an overtime game, and I really thought it 507 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: would be I thought that Arizona, after what happened in 508 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: Seattle in Week seventeen, and after having to get over 509 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: the hump against Green Bay would be locked on, because 510 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: that's how they've been week after week all season. But really, 511 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: Carolina right now is so tuned in that I'm not 512 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: sure anyone could have gone in there and touched them 513 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: today this game. At the end of the first quarter, 514 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: we knew it was over. Yeah, they boat raced a 515 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: bunch of teams in the second half of the season, 516 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: and I thought this was their most complete game of 517 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: the year, coming against the second best team in the NFL, 518 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: and they not only does Cam play great and kind 519 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: of entrenched himself as as the m v P thoroughly 520 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: outplaying corse In Palmer, but the defense forcing six turnovers 521 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: on the opposing quarterback. Well, that's this thing. The secondary 522 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: loses Roman Harper during the game, they lose Thomas Davis 523 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: two at linebacker during the game, and yet they're shutting 524 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: down Larry Fitzgerald and John Brown and Michael Floyd to 525 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: a combined eighty yards. The coverage is great, Kawan Short 526 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: is forcing a fumble, Luke Kickley is getting a pick six, 527 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: the offensive line is giving Cam Newton all day to 528 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: throw Corey Brown, and what I think was the biggest 529 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: play of the game, you know, makes the defender miss 530 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: goes eighty six yards Ted Gins everyone on this team 531 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: had a hand in them being dominant. Halfway through the game, 532 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: we were talking about what we're gonna write about, and 533 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: Chris was thinking, wow, we might not even he wasn't 534 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 1: thinking that it was that special of a Cam Newton 535 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,479 Speaker 1: game necessarily at that point because the rest of the 536 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: team had done so well. It was just like and 537 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: everything Panthers game, and that that's what this team has 538 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: been right now, top to bottom, they've been the best. 539 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: It's one of those things where it's hard to picture 540 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: them losing again. I mean, and we'll we'll have two 541 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: weeks to figure out who we think is gonna win 542 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: or what kind of kind of game it's gonna be. 543 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: But doesn't it just feel like we're witnessing like, uh, 544 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: potentially special team that's maybe one decisive win, uh in 545 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: February away from really putting himself up there. Like when 546 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: you want to talk about the best teams of the 547 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl era, maybe we talked about the Panthers in 548 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: that you know, maybe they're in the top five discussion 549 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: because this has been really since the midpoint of the season, 550 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: a team that is just kicking everybody's ass taking. Uh 551 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: is it no numbers? You take numbers? Well, no names? 552 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: You what do you do with the numbers? Well, that 553 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: don't need like a sandwich shop, you take a number. 554 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: You wait, they don't need numbers because they prisoners. Yeah, 555 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: take no prisoners, and you take some numbers. Then throw 556 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: the numbers on the ground. Who cares because they're just 557 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: destroying everyone. And these are good teams. That was the 558 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: Seahawk team, a proud champion that they hung up thirty 559 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: one Burger greg On homes a wat open in one half, okay. 560 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: And then this the Cardinals. We love the Cardinals. They 561 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: were the team of around the NFL. We can't even play? 562 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: Is there a sad version? And they made them look 563 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: like a bunch of chumps. I mean, this is a 564 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: special Panthers team. Not just a special Panthers team, but 565 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: a special season for Cam Newton. And he's an unstoppable 566 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: force of nature, best exemplified by those back to back 567 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: plays where he carried Chris Clemens from no other quarterback 568 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: in the league, and then he's diving over the goal 569 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: line for a touchdown Superman style as the home crowd 570 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: is chanting m v P it was just think that 571 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: just does a defining moment for him in the season. 572 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: First and goal on that and that dive and they 573 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: run it twice, and I'm thinking to myself, you have 574 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: the greatest goal line quarterback that has ever lived. And 575 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: smartly they then call his number and he does that 576 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: thing where he he jumps and he's so big and 577 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: so athletic that you think he's not in. Then they 578 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: show the replay and his like fourteen foot arms are 579 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: like basically at the back of the pieline or whatever. 580 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: It's like, amazing what this guy can do. And that 581 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: stiff arm play though, that is not That's what Arizona 582 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: has been doing in multiple ways to other teams all year, 583 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: which has been a Bruce Arians aggressive, beat you up 584 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: type club. And today they looked completely lost. But it 585 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: goes back to one thing. You're gonna go on the 586 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: road in the playoffs any time your quarterback is gonna 587 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: have a daylight. Carson Palmer did. I don't care what team. 588 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: You could put the eighty five Bears against this Panthers 589 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: team and they would have got waxed. You cannot turn 590 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: the ball over that much. Palmer has had a bad 591 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,239 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Well, yeah, the as we now know 592 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: for sure, like all the warning signs last week, it 593 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: was all there for us against and then when he 594 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: faced higher competition on the road, it was a complete implosion. 595 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: I mean, four picks, two lost fumbles. Bruce Arians after 596 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: the game, and it was very weird, so weird to 597 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: see them be embarrassed and have Bruce Arians talk and 598 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: be humbled the way he was. He made it very 599 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: clear he did not want to hang the loss on 600 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: his quarterback, even though that's how history is gonna remember it. 601 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: Here is what Bruce Arians had to say. Carson didn't 602 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: lose the damn game, nothing wrong with his damn finger, 603 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: and keep all them questions, Um, we just didn't play 604 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: well enough. Our best players especially didn't play well enough West. 605 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: That last line directly connects with the post he wrote 606 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: after the game, right Carson Palmer had the six turnovers, 607 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: he he had the jitters again too, it looked like 608 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: and then Patrick Peterson with the costly muff fumble when 609 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: they had just scored, had a chance to take some 610 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: momentum and close it to within a one score game 611 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: if they had, if they were able to take that 612 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: next drive, that was a huge fumble by Peterson, and 613 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: then he even Larry Fitzgerald, who arians raved great players, 614 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: great big games, and they flourished in the moment that 615 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: he had two drops. He had one drop over the 616 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: last two years combined. I think they're they're great players 617 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: kind of shriveled in the moment, right, And that's why 618 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: as bad as Palmer was, they were never gonna win, 619 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: like Mark said. But it's also hard to even put 620 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: it on Palmer when it's seventeen nothing after the first 621 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: quarter in the Arizona defense gives up five hundred yards today. 622 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: So it wasn't just Okay, they're getting a short field there, Okay, 623 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: luke Keickley gets a pick six, They're putting up seventeen 624 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: points in the first quarter. They're moving the ball up 625 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: and down the field, and the Arizona pass rush was 626 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: a huge problem. I think they were a little afraid 627 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: to get aggressive and blitz like crazy because Carolina was 628 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: gonna hit him deep. But when they didn't blitz, they 629 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: had all day to throw. Even when they did blitz, 630 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: they they protected it up well on a couple of 631 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: the big plays. No matter what they did, they couldn't 632 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: get at Cam Newton and when he has time, he's 633 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: just gonna rifle it there. So it was everything that 634 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: the Cardinals did that didn't work. It wasn't just Palmer. 635 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: I mean this game to me felt like when you 636 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: go back to that string of nine eighties early nineties 637 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl where a great team would come out of 638 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: the ANFC teams like those high scoring Bills teams, or 639 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: teams like some of the Broncos teams, the Lway lad Ones, 640 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: where fifteen minutes into the Super Bowl, forget everything you 641 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 1: thought you knew the game was over. There were so 642 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: many big games like that that got completely out of control. 643 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: This game is not exemplary for what the Cardinals are 644 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: or what they would be if they played another ten times. 645 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: Everything just got out of hand in this game or 646 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: if they played in Arizona. And that shows why the 647 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: regular season is so big. I didn't mention it with 648 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: the Pats game, but I mean that those two losses 649 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: to end the season, especially the one to Miami, that 650 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: get you put that game in Foxborough. Who knows what happens. 651 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: Carolina one number one seed by going fifteen and one, 652 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: they mean they earned it. This game's in Arizona. Who 653 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: knows if all that happens. They had a magical thing 654 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: going in Carolina. They boat roast boat raced a lot 655 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: of teams, especially in the first half of these games. 656 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: Every single home game, it was like a celebration. It 657 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: was like the him weekly party in Carolina. Uh, and 658 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: that's gonna anger some more housewives. After another epic photo 659 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: on the sideline, and I think seventy and nothing this game, 660 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: they get it to seventeen seven. And Bruce Arians said 661 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: it after the game, he thought the game got away 662 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: in the period at the end of the second quarter, 663 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: early third quarters. So they get the touchdown, they get 664 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: I I believe a three and out, Arizona does forced 665 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: the punt, Peterson muffs it, but then their defense makes 666 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 1: a stand and gets an interception of Cam Newton and 667 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: they go back the other way. And now we're inside 668 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: a minute in the first half, Carson Palmer forces one 669 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: into the end zone when he had two time outs, 670 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: and they did not have to make that throw. It 671 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: was intercepted, So that was a killer and and uh 672 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: and Rivera made a point to say that, and then 673 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: coming out of the locker room in the third quarter, 674 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,239 Speaker 1: he said the defense needed to set the tone and 675 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: take control of the game and find a way to 676 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: slow them down. And instead they laid down, and all 677 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the game's gone. All of a sudden, 678 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: it's you know, seven seven, and there's no coming back. 679 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: An eight minute drive to to start the second half, 680 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: every every phase. How could you not be so impressed 681 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: and think about them as an all time team? But 682 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: I was trying to think of other teams that have 683 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: had great playoff runs lately and have got us thinking 684 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 1: that way. And I actually thought back to the season 685 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: that the Panthers made the super Bowl. That was the 686 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: best Patriots team I would say in my lifetime. And 687 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, Uh, they came through a couple of 688 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: games where they played absolutely perfect. No one gave the 689 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: Panthers any shot. Uh. In that game against the Patriots, 690 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: that was just looking like a team that was on 691 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: such a role having beaten the Colts and the Steelers, 692 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: I believe, who had been playing so well. And then 693 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: you know, who knows, it ends up being a three 694 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: point game, so you never know, and yet who no 695 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: one's gonna be. There's this weird ahead of like, forget 696 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: all the all the analysis, all we've said about Peyton 697 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: Manning that in the end, this maybe just ends with 698 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: him winning this game and going out in John Elway like, 699 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, sticks with me. I've been seeing it, 700 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: like I just feel like, maybe it doesn't it doesn't 701 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: all have to make sense in the end. I like, boy, yeah, 702 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: you want to talk about legacy because suddenly he'd have 703 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: as many Super Bowl wins as Manning and we forget 704 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: what we'd say about Peyton. It could be Cam Newton. 705 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: But this is what makes this game in picturing Peyton 706 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: somehow winning the Super Bowl, like Mark saying, And then 707 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: lay and Manning are on the podium with Terry Bradshaw 708 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: or whoever, and they hand the trophy to Peyton and 709 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: then John Ellie ripped it out of Peyton's hand and 710 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: holds it up. He goes, this one's also for John. 711 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: That is, that's more probable than we realized, which that's 712 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: where I thought you were going. But I like it. 713 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: I like John Elway just taking all the credit. Do 714 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 1: we think, quick question, do we think the football gods 715 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: will smite the Panthers for going for two up for 716 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,720 Speaker 1: Chris Wesley? No, I don't even know why they would 717 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: because they went for two up if any NFL play 718 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: to win. If anything, the one problem I had with 719 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera all day is when right after that they 720 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: got another pick six, you gotta go for two again 721 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: and get the fifty burger was a housewife is gonna 722 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: write about you guys in a second would as memorable 723 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: as it was that they went for to the first 724 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: time around. If you went for two twice in a 725 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 1: minute under five minutes left to get it to fifty, 726 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: it would have been one of the most It would 727 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: just would have been the most incredible. Why not? It's 728 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: Bruce arians understands he wouldn't have been offended by that. 729 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: We gotta let's just double back again into the Shakespeare 730 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: tragedy that was Carson Palmer's game, Because I mean, I 731 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: feel terrible for the guy. I really do. And there 732 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: are a lot of people West I was we were 733 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 1: talking about downstairs and people in Cincinnati. I'm sure that 734 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: don't feel like anybody should feel bad for Carson Poe. 735 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: That's unfair to say. Maybe some ex girlfriends at USC 736 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 1: Bengals fans are saying, we've seen this all before. This 737 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 1: is the Carson Poe. You can't blame him for getting 738 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: his a c L torn up in one game and 739 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: then the next game he's playing through an elbow injury. 740 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: This idea that Carson Palmer has been the same player 741 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: over the last five years is untrue. He he he 742 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: didn't even have a strong arm his last couple of 743 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: years in Cincinnati because of that held. But but he 744 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: also basically said he would retire than ever. My point 745 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: was that he said, I'll retire before I ever play 746 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: for the Bengals. I don't blame him. He's an aging 747 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: quarterback and this is gonna stick with him all al right. 748 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard for him to shake this from 749 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: his legacy because he still has just now one. He's thirty, 750 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: He's gonna be thirty seven next year. Gifted guys probably 751 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: gonna be in the top ten and most relevant offensive 752 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: categories on he retires. But not only he now had 753 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: just one playoff win as he heads into his twilight, 754 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: he now has one of the world I mean, this 755 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: is right up there statistically anyway, with what Jake Delone 756 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: did for the Panthers against the Cardinals, UH eight years ago, 757 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer, Ryan Linley a year ago. I mean, this 758 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: was an embarrassing performance and you just you feel bad 759 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: for the guys. He had such a nice season, Uh, 760 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: and it just gets marred by this. To get back here. 761 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: If you're the Cardinals, I mean, this is a season 762 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: where really everything went right for them up until the 763 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,439 Speaker 1: last twenty four hours. Dr Seuss Uh created a word 764 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: for justice situation. Carson Palmer de bacculus fiasco. That's bad. Oh, 765 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: speaking of which, I did reach out to um somebody 766 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: over in the Carson Palmer Legacy Foundation, and I just 767 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: wanted to get some comment for the podcast. This is 768 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: what they had to sad, no God, please, no, no, no, 769 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: no so and then he hung up. I wouldn't count 770 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: the Cardinals out. I mean, that was a big why 771 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: are you? Why are you moving on? That was a 772 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: big dan, A tough maybe tough time to place that phone. 773 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: That was the chairman. That was Carl Sassler. Uh, no 774 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: relation to Mark of the car Palmer Legacy Foundation. And 775 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,919 Speaker 1: you're just gonna, you know, you know, glance over. It's 776 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,919 Speaker 1: like a nonprofit. He's available all the time. Respect my bits, Greig. 777 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 1: Let's get to the heart of this. I didn't know 778 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: it was ongoing that's gonna be a drop on Go 779 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 1: get my lunch dot org. Respect my bits. Greg I Felt, 780 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,439 Speaker 1: says the guy who started that whole segment by going, 781 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: I feel bad for Carson Palmer, but oh, by the way, 782 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm setting up a huge bit that's got a little 783 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: bit terry exists a little bit. Well, maybe maybe it's 784 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 1: it's my heart strings talking here, because it was tough 785 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: to watch the team of a TL go down like this, 786 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: especially after the team of myself, a team of Rosenthal 787 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: goes down right before that. And I want to believe 788 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: that this team is loaded and that they would have 789 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: a chance to come back next year, and they are. 790 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: They are pretty loaded. I mean, it's a different feeling 791 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: than Denver, which is such a strange team to be 792 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, where you'd like know the quarterbacks 793 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: gonna change next year. The thirty six is not a 794 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: death sentence. You're always gonna be worried though, no matter 795 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: it will be like the Bengals were this year. If 796 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: the if the Cardinals are eleven and three eight, people 797 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: are just gonna see it. Well, but it's Carson Bomber 798 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,919 Speaker 1: going to blow it into playoffs. He basically is gonna 799 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: have to get and erase that. That's a fair assessment. 800 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: And Mark, you Mark made the good point, which is 801 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 1: you never want to not win the championship in your 802 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: season where everything went right. Uh, It just this everything 803 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: seemed primed for this to be Arizona's year, for it 804 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: to end and end this way. It's just like you. 805 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: It's you must be looking up at the mountain and 806 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: you know they arian said it after the game. It's 807 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, their whole thing is super Bowl or bust now. 808 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: And that comes with a lot of weight too. If 809 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,919 Speaker 1: you're when you come out and say that, when that's 810 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: the doctrine within the organization that if you don't have 811 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: the confetti falling on you, you you basically blew it. 812 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: That's a lot. You know, they go into next season 813 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: knowing that that's tough promise. They ran into a team 814 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: that had even more go right for them in Carolina, 815 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: and so it was a tough year to be the 816 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: second best team and they need a pass rusher well 817 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: not yet, not to mention they're stuck in a division 818 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 1: with the most dominant team of the last four years 819 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: and the potential future team of around the NFL, the 820 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams. Stop that it's not in the I 821 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: feel like we're gonna be told by a shadowy league 822 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: figure that they have to be our team of eight, 823 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: the Culver City Rams, if that Jeff Fish are from 824 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: Culver City, if the Rams are ever, yes, if the 825 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: Rams are ever the team around the NFL, you'll know 826 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: that we sold out. Now. I think it could happen 827 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: organically if they got rid of Jeff Fisher and got 828 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: a quarterback. There in our backyard, Baby, we have some 829 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: you know listeners. I'm sure from St. Louis, we can't 830 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: do Wow. This is l A's team for forty nine 831 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: years before they were in St. Louis. Alright, they belong 832 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: to l A. Jan has made a strong statement. I'm 833 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 1: gonna go along with our host. Wait a second, because 834 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: you have teams that, at a principle, you'll never make 835 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: the team of a t L. Why against you and Greg? 836 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: I'm declaring vengeance. It comes to the team of This 837 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: is the earliest team of a t L discussion ever. Yeah, 838 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: you're welcome for saving you three from you guys were 839 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 1: in love with Oh I did not. I was not 840 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 1: on board with that. Yeah, I was the only one 841 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: who voted against it. I don't believe that. Check the tape. 842 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: So that's the NFC Championship game wrap up. Any final 843 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: words on that game. I can't believe it happened the 844 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: way it did. Poor Carson Palm. What a hideous game. 845 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: Six turnovers is awful. Focus on the positive. It was 846 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 1: Corey Brown's greatest moment. Well, it's a sportswriter's dream, because, 847 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, by halftime, we were like, Greg's doing this, 848 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: Stands doing this. West is gonna write this, Mark is 849 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 1: gonna write this. Everyone else is eating pizza, have a 850 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: nice time. That's the idea. The rest I think, well, 851 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that, you know, I think we've gotten, 852 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: uh maybe another candidate. And the reasons for Mark's aggravation 853 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: he has not eaten in seventeen hours. I'm actually like, 854 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: I think the number one reason I feel am starting 855 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: to feel aggravated is that I'm not aggravated. But I've 856 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: told twenty three or twenty four times that I am 857 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: that would do the trick. Thank you. Well, usually we're 858 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: pretty good when we sense it. Yeah you are. I mean, 859 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: you know, today I would say I'm workman like and 860 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 1: I am doing my duty. Is the best I can 861 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: What's or John? Why are we discussing that I am 862 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: looking forward to some glowing Peyton Manning pieces from Denver headquarters. Well, 863 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna prove anyone that thinks that I am gonna 864 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: treat them in a different way or a negative way. 865 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to prove them all wrong, because I don't 866 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 1: go into a situation like this and not getting the 867 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,399 Speaker 1: cessler best and it's gonna be work that is exactly right. 868 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: We'll not gonna bury Peyton Manning. Who's gonna apologize to 869 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: him for what you go with you that day? For 870 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,919 Speaker 1: what's suggesting that he wasn't as good as he could 871 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: have been, or he's not the same quarterback for much 872 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 1: of these It's a rare writer move than no nobody 873 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: believed in me as a writer into the game. I've 874 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 1: got to write some articles that are really positive and 875 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,760 Speaker 1: for all the haters out there is that I couldn't. 876 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: That's right, It's already been advertised that I've essentially gonna 877 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: write like eighteen you know, killer hate pieces on Manning 878 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 1: not actually true on any level about this, like believe 879 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: man believe Manning. I don't know. I like the idea 880 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: of eventually marketting to a point where every one of 881 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: your stories has the headline with believe in. It's something. 882 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: I like that. All right, all right, let's move on. 883 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,800 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Uh, we made some prop bets, of course, 884 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,280 Speaker 1: as we do. Um, go get my lunch, filth bag 885 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: still working on an we had a name and uh, 886 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: you know, our sponsor, Scott Trade, wouldn't know about. Wow. Looking, 887 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: we also have a special graphic. Look at that. That's 888 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 1: the old face of Go get my Lunch. I like that, 889 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: no gray in the hair. Back then we used to 890 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 1: have you know, another word in the title, and it 891 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 1: was inappropriate. We certainly couldn't have attracted a sponsor like 892 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: Scott when we had to. How we've we've grown and 893 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: so we've been searching since then for for a moniker 894 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 1: to add to the end. And you're still we count 895 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: out the sponsorship sometimes we do that. Um, let's go 896 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 1: over them now, Mark, you said the Peyton Manning and 897 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: Tom Brady will throw at least four interceptions combined. Tom 898 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: Brady through two Peyton Manny did not throw an interception. 899 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: You lost sandwiches too. I believe the room to everyone. 900 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,320 Speaker 1: I mean it was looking good. I was getting a 901 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: lot of tweets because it was early that those picks came, 902 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: and then all the turnovers dried up. Alright, So Mark, 903 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: oh and three there, Chris Westling, the Cardinals trio of 904 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald, John Brown, Michael Floyd more total yards than 905 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: the entire Denver offense, and Denver's offense did not light 906 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 1: it up. Two yards total. Such a low numbers. By 907 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 1: the way, that's a game and a half Arizona, though 908 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 1: they have those three players only total ninety yards receiving. 909 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: Who took him up on it? Did? I have? I 910 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: think everybody, I think we all did good. Yeah to 911 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 1: the guy who tweeted me saying that didn't even make sense, 912 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: why would you pick that? It made all the sense 913 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: in the world. The Broncos had one of the worst 914 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: offenses in the NFL this year and the Cardinals have 915 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: one of the best. Waters typical game you would have won. 916 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: It was a It was an onion hanger. You know, 917 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: that's a risky even on a day like today where 918 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,959 Speaker 1: they had a not a very good day. You would 919 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 1: have to have a big day from those things. Right, 920 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 1: If we just made predictable propositions it would be a 921 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: horrible game. Yeah, you'd be a Dan, so take a hike, Tweeter. Uh, well, 922 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 1: since you brought me up, I did not think mine 923 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: when nobody took me up on it. But I remember 924 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 1: West actually saying at the time that was a good one. 925 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: Cam Newton will have more total touchdowns than Gronk Edelman 926 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 1: and Amndola. I thought that the Panthers would score a 927 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 1: lot of points. I thought the Patriots wouldn't score a 928 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,720 Speaker 1: lot of points. And it was four to one Cam Newton, 929 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: but no one took me up on it, so I 930 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: won no sandwiches. I think we agreed with you. Well, 931 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,800 Speaker 1: I good statement, but we agreed. Yeah, and I've realized 932 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: Dan has gone next level. He realizes the way to 933 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: win this game is to make picks that are heavy favorites. 934 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 1: No one takes him up on it, and then it's 935 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: a zero zero. He's gonna win this round because he 936 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:18,360 Speaker 1: just went with a safe, easy opposite of onion hanging whatever. 937 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: Bro never hangs his onions anymore. Are he did when 938 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: he had the photo behind him when he you know, 939 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 1: looks like a high school child with all completely dark 940 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: black hair. Greg Carson Palmer will have more total yards. Yeah, 941 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 1: go ahead with your onion hangers, have a fun time 942 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 1: with it. Carson Bamba will have more total yards than 943 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 1: Cam Newton. Final tally three, two to five. I took 944 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 1: you up on that, did you, guys? I think Mark 945 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:47,840 Speaker 1: did too, but I did not. I may have. I 946 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 1: mean he almost threw more yardage to the Panthers than 947 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: kick Cam Newton. So final tally for this round, Old 948 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: Juser goes three and oh, well, and he picked up 949 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 1: some others too, right or oh that right? And what 950 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: you do? Mark? Oh, I don't know. I mean I 951 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: lost the one, and I think I won this one 952 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,319 Speaker 1: and two? Sore two and three two or one and three. 953 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 1: I believes because you didn't correct, I would have been 954 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 1: two and two. I would have escaped two and two 955 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 1: would have escaped without What does that mean I have 956 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 1: to buy three sandwiches and I'm bought to I'd rather 957 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: just wouldn't it not have any We'll just add it 958 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 1: to the standings. Nick Fortier at go get my lunch 959 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,919 Speaker 1: dot Org. I'm looking forward to the Super Bowl version 960 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,399 Speaker 1: where Dan predicts the winning team has more points than 961 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: the Wow, you see your lead slipping away? Are you 962 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: in first in this I think you are. I think 963 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 1: you are. We were in a virtual flat foot tie. 964 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: There you go, we're all close. Show some respect to 965 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,400 Speaker 1: the hard charging zoos. It's been a tough day for me. 966 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 1: I gotta take what I can. Just west at fifty 967 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: four and forty six, so in now west all you 968 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 1: guys can figure it out. Er now zooming up the 969 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: power rankings. All right, Finally, before we get out of here, 970 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 1: might as well take a quick peek ahead at the 971 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 1: super Bowl. Yes, the Denver Broncos where now fourteen and four? 972 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 1: Is that correct? Against the sixteen and one Carolina Panthers? 973 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 1: And what you I think I'll start here. I think 974 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 1: it will be a competitive super Bowl. Uh, because I 975 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 1: do believe that Denver net you get two weeks, you 976 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 1: get it, you rest up, that defense, got a ton 977 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: of energy, a ton of confidence. I think they will 978 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 1: not let Carolina. No, I can't talk to myself into it. 979 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 1: I think the Panthers it's gonna be a coronation, guys, 980 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 1: I really do. I think the Carolina Panthers are gonna 981 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,360 Speaker 1: jump out ahead again and have a big win. It 982 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,320 Speaker 1: won't be close, and Peyton Manning's career ends with another 983 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl blowout. That's my initial thoughts on the game. 984 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,359 Speaker 1: I think this is the Panthers year. No one has 985 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 1: to listen to the next five shows, it's all been revealed. 986 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: I am annoyed at the Falcons more than anything that 987 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 1: they robbed us from a great story of the Panthers 988 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: being undefeated going into this game. Wouldn't that just be 989 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 1: I just would be so yeah, the Falcons, I would 990 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 1: be so much more. I'm excited for this game on 991 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: as a type of level. You know, I'm not because 992 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,359 Speaker 1: of the Patriots aren't in it, but there are great storylines. 993 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: But man, it would be cool if they were undefeated. Yeah. 994 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,400 Speaker 1: For the Panthers to undress the Seahawks and Cardinals like 995 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: they just did, that's extremely oppressive to me. I think 996 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: they should be heavily favored in this game. And then 997 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,359 Speaker 1: it's not a home game though, But look at the quarterbacks. 998 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: One guy is so dynamic, he's taking over games, and 999 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: the other guy you have to hide him. Yeah, I 1000 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 1: mean two weeks in a row, Carolina has jumped out 1001 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 1: to a big lead and there's no reason to think 1002 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,240 Speaker 1: they couldn't jump out to a quick lead again against 1003 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: a team like Denver, that defense would be the reason 1004 00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 1: if they do Deny out there in That's the thing 1005 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 1: I mean. If this, if this follows the script of 1006 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 1: the last couple of wins for the Panthers, then you'd 1007 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: have a hard time imagining Denver's offense minding their way 1008 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 1: back into that thing. They've got to play them the 1009 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 1: same way they did New England, which is get to 1010 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 1: Cam Newton and lay a hurt on him. Not easy 1011 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 1: to do. This is not New England's offensive line. Well, 1012 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 1: it's such a different matchup. But if we believe that 1013 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 1: the Broncos defense has the special qualities to come up 1014 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: with one great game plan, and Wade Phillips had a 1015 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 1: great tweet after the game last year, I was out 1016 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 1: of work and now I'm heading to the super Bowl. 1017 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: You know if one reason why I had some confidence 1018 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 1: in the Patriots if they had made the Super Bowl. 1019 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 1: You always give Bill Belichick a chance with a couple 1020 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: of weeks, But I think maybe you gotta give Wade 1021 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 1: Phillips a chance with a couple of weeks and all 1022 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: of those players at all three levels of the defense 1023 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 1: to come up with something that can slow down this 1024 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: incredible Panthers at times. It will be a fun game 1025 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,720 Speaker 1: either way because you have the Panthers potentially all time 1026 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 1: type team, and then on the other side you have 1027 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 1: the just the drama that will have building for two weeks. 1028 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,399 Speaker 1: What could be Peyton Manning's final game ever? Just the 1029 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 1: idea if they did pull off the upset, because I 1030 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 1: think a lot of people are gonna pick the Panthers 1031 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: that he has a chance, Like we said, to do 1032 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 1: the l way. I mean, it could be going out 1033 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: as a champion. That would be. That would be if 1034 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 1: you want to if you're into like, who's the greatest 1035 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 1: quarterback ever? I think Brady definitely surged ahead based on 1036 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: last year. But if Manning able can win a Super 1037 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 1: Bowl that, I mean, that's great for the resume. What 1038 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 1: a build on that is? Get into it, Get into it. 1039 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,720 Speaker 1: Come on, I think they go this one's for Pat, 1040 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,280 Speaker 1: Pat Bowland, not there, They're gonna do it. This one's 1041 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 1: also for John. I like that. I think Dan scenario 1042 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 1: is far more attractive. It's also very strange and bizarre, 1043 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 1: and I like it. Um. I think we've said it all. Oh, 1044 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: by the way, the one last thing, uh, when I 1045 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 1: knew that the Panthers Uh, you know had the game 1046 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 1: in hand, and you when they the crowd is getting 1047 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 1: more and more wild, and you knew it was a 1048 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,760 Speaker 1: total celebration when they came back from commercial on Fox 1049 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,720 Speaker 1: and this is what we heard. Crowd going nuts, the rude. 1050 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,280 Speaker 1: A great job by the people at the stadium. And Charlotte. 1051 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 1: What is it was? What Charlotte's the Panther Stadium, M 1052 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,359 Speaker 1: and T Bank Stadium. I don't know. A mix up 1053 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 1: my banks. The crowd going nuts. Never mix it up 1054 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 1: with Scott Trade. Uh, crowd going nuts, Sandstorms playing gotta love. 1055 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:37,320 Speaker 1: So that's I just love one Sands. Good for Carolina. Congratulations. 1056 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 1: Uh that's it for the Sunday night edition of the 1057 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,919 Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. We'll be back on Tuesday. Full 1058 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: week of shows, no football, but full week of shows. 1059 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 1: And then we had San Francisco. This is Dan Hanson 1060 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,760 Speaker 1: signing off four Quiet Storm, the mail Man, the Boss 1061 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: and b Man behind the glass. It's help those day. 1062 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:05,280 Speaker 1: Yeah high in. Hello football fan, Jerald Tyl. 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