1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:21,635 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. One 2 00:00:21,715 --> 00:00:25,115 Speaker 1: of these judges is going to have to jail Trump 3 00:00:25,155 --> 00:00:28,755 Speaker 1: for contempt of court. I don't care about the consequences. 4 00:00:28,835 --> 00:00:31,555 Speaker 1: I don't care if it energizes his base. I don't 5 00:00:31,555 --> 00:00:34,795 Speaker 1: care if there's a conflict with his secret service. I 6 00:00:34,835 --> 00:00:38,115 Speaker 1: don't care if his cult riots in the street. At 7 00:00:38,155 --> 00:00:42,275 Speaker 1: some point, somebody in the legal system has to reassert 8 00:00:42,315 --> 00:00:46,915 Speaker 1: the simple fact that the law applies to this bastard too, 9 00:00:47,435 --> 00:00:49,715 Speaker 1: and that if you did what he does, not the 10 00:00:49,755 --> 00:00:52,275 Speaker 1: twentieth time he does it, not the twenty first time, 11 00:00:52,435 --> 00:00:55,315 Speaker 1: not the twenty second time, but the first time. If 12 00:00:55,355 --> 00:00:57,915 Speaker 1: you did what he did the first time he did it, 13 00:00:58,195 --> 00:01:03,195 Speaker 1: you would spend at least the night in jail. Trump 14 00:01:03,235 --> 00:01:05,595 Speaker 1: has come to the courtroom in the day damages phase 15 00:01:05,675 --> 00:01:09,835 Speaker 1: of his trial for defaming E. Jene Carroll a second time, 16 00:01:10,355 --> 00:01:14,995 Speaker 1: and during testimony muttered and mumbled like a jerk talking 17 00:01:15,035 --> 00:01:17,955 Speaker 1: over the dialogue at a play or a movie, his 18 00:01:18,155 --> 00:01:22,075 Speaker 1: senile dementia, dribbling out of all four corners of his 19 00:01:22,195 --> 00:01:27,195 Speaker 1: square head. Judge Kaplan responds to Trump, saying con job 20 00:01:27,315 --> 00:01:31,235 Speaker 1: and witch hunt loudly enough for jurors to hear during 21 00:01:31,275 --> 00:01:34,675 Speaker 1: the testimony quote, mister Trump, I hope I don't have 22 00:01:34,755 --> 00:01:39,075 Speaker 1: to consider excluding you from the trial. Trump throws his 23 00:01:39,195 --> 00:01:41,915 Speaker 1: hands up in the air, possibly because the judge addressed 24 00:01:41,955 --> 00:01:44,955 Speaker 1: him just as mister, and God bless this judge for 25 00:01:45,075 --> 00:01:48,235 Speaker 1: doing that, and he answers, I would love it the 26 00:01:48,355 --> 00:01:51,715 Speaker 1: judge quote, I understand you're probably very eager for me 27 00:01:51,755 --> 00:01:54,835 Speaker 1: to do that because you just can't control yourself in 28 00:01:54,955 --> 00:02:01,515 Speaker 1: these circumstances. Find him in contempt, detain him, or at 29 00:02:01,595 --> 00:02:06,555 Speaker 1: least threaten him with detention. There have to be consequences 30 00:02:06,715 --> 00:02:11,315 Speaker 1: for this man's increasing and increasingly dangerous abuses of our 31 00:02:11,515 --> 00:02:15,115 Speaker 1: legal system. I have spent the entirety of my life 32 00:02:15,315 --> 00:02:18,955 Speaker 1: doubting our legal system, but I have ten billion times 33 00:02:18,995 --> 00:02:22,275 Speaker 1: more confidence in it than I have in this fat 34 00:02:22,475 --> 00:02:27,635 Speaker 1: psychopath Trump. He has already been found guilty of sexually 35 00:02:27,755 --> 00:02:31,155 Speaker 1: abusing this woman. He has already been found guilty of 36 00:02:31,195 --> 00:02:35,035 Speaker 1: then defaming this woman. And while his idiot parking lot 37 00:02:35,155 --> 00:02:38,555 Speaker 1: lawyer disproves her own assertion that she can fake being 38 00:02:38,595 --> 00:02:40,835 Speaker 1: smart and he should hold her in contempt to and 39 00:02:40,915 --> 00:02:43,955 Speaker 1: she brings up the irrelevancy of whether or not Egen 40 00:02:44,075 --> 00:02:47,515 Speaker 1: Carroll inherited a gun from her own late father, and 41 00:02:47,555 --> 00:02:50,915 Speaker 1: the judge shuts that down, and she fails in Trump's 42 00:02:50,955 --> 00:02:55,115 Speaker 1: favorite gambit that some kind of mysterious evidence exonerating him 43 00:02:55,195 --> 00:03:00,315 Speaker 1: has been destroyed. Trump's social media spews out attack after 44 00:03:00,355 --> 00:03:04,075 Speaker 1: attack on Judge Kaplan, on the system, on his victim, 45 00:03:04,115 --> 00:03:06,875 Speaker 1: Egene Carol, and on the guy he now says is 46 00:03:06,915 --> 00:03:13,155 Speaker 1: the mastermind of all this, George Conway. George Conway, there 47 00:03:13,195 --> 00:03:18,555 Speaker 1: were twenty two posts about this case, defaming everybody involved 48 00:03:18,595 --> 00:03:22,235 Speaker 1: in it, just on Tuesday, and just as it was 49 00:03:22,555 --> 00:03:25,675 Speaker 1: in progress. There is a legal system in this country, 50 00:03:25,715 --> 00:03:28,355 Speaker 1: and it is desperately flawed, and yet at some point 51 00:03:28,355 --> 00:03:31,675 Speaker 1: it has to assert itself and kick this Trump in 52 00:03:31,755 --> 00:03:36,875 Speaker 1: the balls, because otherwise Trump gets to hold news conferences 53 00:03:36,915 --> 00:03:40,075 Speaker 1: afterwards and take the things that failed, that the judge 54 00:03:40,195 --> 00:03:43,075 Speaker 1: ruled out of order, that the judge warned him about, 55 00:03:43,115 --> 00:03:46,475 Speaker 1: and warned that bubblehead a Lena Haba about, and act 56 00:03:46,515 --> 00:03:49,795 Speaker 1: as if they are, to use the favorite phrase of 57 00:03:49,835 --> 00:03:53,635 Speaker 1: a putrid old man buried under bronzer and suffering a 58 00:03:53,675 --> 00:03:57,155 Speaker 1: prolonged mental health crisis that threatens the future of this 59 00:03:57,315 --> 00:04:00,475 Speaker 1: nation what he calls a Perry Mason moment. 60 00:04:00,795 --> 00:04:02,715 Speaker 2: Well, they found out today that she got rid of 61 00:04:02,715 --> 00:04:05,395 Speaker 2: a lot of evidence, as you probably noticed, that rid 62 00:04:05,395 --> 00:04:09,355 Speaker 2: of massive amounts of evidence. And in addition to that, 63 00:04:09,395 --> 00:04:12,555 Speaker 2: she had a rifle or a gun, because she said 64 00:04:12,555 --> 00:04:16,075 Speaker 2: she bought gun bullets or rifle bullets, and it was 65 00:04:16,115 --> 00:04:18,435 Speaker 2: the opposite I guess of her gun. 66 00:04:18,795 --> 00:04:20,155 Speaker 3: And was it licensed? 67 00:04:20,155 --> 00:04:22,075 Speaker 2: Now it wasn't license, So I guess she's got a 68 00:04:22,155 --> 00:04:24,395 Speaker 2: difficult problem. That's going to be her problem. But she 69 00:04:24,435 --> 00:04:27,915 Speaker 2: has a gun or a rifle. She didn't really explain 70 00:04:27,955 --> 00:04:29,035 Speaker 2: which she might have both. 71 00:04:29,435 --> 00:04:31,915 Speaker 1: What the f are rifle bullets? 72 00:04:32,035 --> 00:04:32,715 Speaker 3: Old man? 73 00:04:34,235 --> 00:04:38,075 Speaker 1: There is considerable speculation among those following this case that 74 00:04:38,155 --> 00:04:40,875 Speaker 1: the likeliest result of all this will be that the 75 00:04:40,995 --> 00:04:45,755 Speaker 1: damages awarded to E. Gene Carroll will be astronomically high, 76 00:04:46,275 --> 00:04:50,075 Speaker 1: like rivaling or even eclipsing the one hundred and forty 77 00:04:50,075 --> 00:04:53,075 Speaker 1: eight million dollar award against Juliani in the case of 78 00:04:53,115 --> 00:04:56,275 Speaker 1: Sea Moss and Ruby Freeman. I mean, just there in 79 00:04:56,315 --> 00:05:01,675 Speaker 1: that clip, he defamed Ejene Carroll again. She can sue 80 00:05:01,755 --> 00:05:05,755 Speaker 1: him again. So say the jury is as ticked off 81 00:05:05,835 --> 00:05:10,155 Speaker 1: as the judge is and literally awards her half a 82 00:05:10,355 --> 00:05:17,835 Speaker 1: billion dollars of Trump's money and then, so what Trump 83 00:05:17,915 --> 00:05:23,235 Speaker 1: has wasted his one time on this earth perfecting loopholes 84 00:05:23,475 --> 00:05:28,835 Speaker 1: and appeals and legal escape patches. He will stall and delay, 85 00:05:29,195 --> 00:05:33,035 Speaker 1: and manipulate and pervert, and if he regains power, he 86 00:05:33,075 --> 00:05:38,195 Speaker 1: will find some manufactured way out of paying her a dime. 87 00:05:39,315 --> 00:05:44,595 Speaker 1: The action that is required now is jail time, twelve hours, 88 00:05:44,715 --> 00:05:48,395 Speaker 1: twenty four hours, two hundred and fifty years, whatever you 89 00:05:48,475 --> 00:05:53,515 Speaker 1: can get away with. This creature no longer responds as 90 00:05:53,555 --> 00:05:58,195 Speaker 1: a human being would to anything that might restrain him. 91 00:05:58,515 --> 00:06:02,115 Speaker 1: There exists no simple nor measured solution to the threat 92 00:06:02,155 --> 00:06:05,915 Speaker 1: he poses to thee forgive the cornball here the threat 93 00:06:05,955 --> 00:06:09,115 Speaker 1: he poses to the American way of life. He is 94 00:06:09,235 --> 00:06:12,995 Speaker 1: not lashing out merely at Judge Caplan or Judge Engern 95 00:06:13,115 --> 00:06:16,275 Speaker 1: or Judge Chutkin, or Egene Carroll or Jack Smith or 96 00:06:16,355 --> 00:06:20,195 Speaker 1: Letitia James, or any individual. He is lashing out at 97 00:06:20,275 --> 00:06:23,235 Speaker 1: the United States of America and the laws under which 98 00:06:23,315 --> 00:06:27,355 Speaker 1: the rest of us must live. And it is time 99 00:06:27,395 --> 00:06:31,075 Speaker 1: that those who are charged with enforcing those laws and 100 00:06:31,155 --> 00:06:35,195 Speaker 1: punishing the breaking of those laws to teach this asshole 101 00:06:35,595 --> 00:06:39,715 Speaker 1: one mighty lesson that will shut him up. Shut him 102 00:06:39,915 --> 00:06:43,915 Speaker 1: up in both senses of the phrase Judge Camplin, he's 103 00:06:43,995 --> 00:06:47,675 Speaker 1: in your courtroom. He is in contempt of you, and 104 00:06:47,715 --> 00:06:51,395 Speaker 1: the law and the country and reality. Show him at 105 00:06:51,435 --> 00:06:53,995 Speaker 1: his cult, and most importantly, those of us who still 106 00:06:54,035 --> 00:06:57,115 Speaker 1: believe in this country and believe in the rules, show 107 00:06:57,275 --> 00:07:00,875 Speaker 1: us that the law and the country and reality are 108 00:07:00,875 --> 00:07:05,995 Speaker 1: not at the mercy of one fat, deranged old man. 109 00:07:06,555 --> 00:07:16,915 Speaker 1: He is in contempt. Now put him in jail. Meanwhile, 110 00:07:16,955 --> 00:07:21,355 Speaker 1: in Maine, a symbolically but not practically important ruling on 111 00:07:21,435 --> 00:07:26,715 Speaker 1: Trump's ineligibility Under the Fourteenth Amendment, state law there requires 112 00:07:26,795 --> 00:07:30,955 Speaker 1: the main Secretary of State to rule on ballot eligibility 113 00:07:30,995 --> 00:07:35,435 Speaker 1: before the court's due. But now a state superior court 114 00:07:35,475 --> 00:07:40,315 Speaker 1: has overthrown that law. The Justice has ruled that Secretary 115 00:07:40,355 --> 00:07:43,875 Speaker 1: of State Shannonbellows cannot take Trump off the ballot in 116 00:07:43,955 --> 00:07:47,475 Speaker 1: Maine until the Supreme Court of the United States rules 117 00:07:47,555 --> 00:07:53,235 Speaker 1: on the disqualification clause. The Secretary confronted an uncertain legal landscape, 118 00:07:53,595 --> 00:07:58,635 Speaker 1: writes Justice Murphy incorrectly, she quotes, should be afforded the 119 00:07:58,675 --> 00:08:02,715 Speaker 1: opportunity to assess the effects and application of her ruling 120 00:08:02,755 --> 00:08:04,995 Speaker 1: based on how the Supreme Court rules on the colo 121 00:08:05,075 --> 00:08:10,275 Speaker 1: fourteenth case. It's nonsense, it's weak, need meddlesome both sizest 122 00:08:10,755 --> 00:08:16,315 Speaker 1: diletantish nonsense. On the other hand, we have what might 123 00:08:16,395 --> 00:08:19,595 Speaker 1: be the first murmurs about the elephant in the fourteenth 124 00:08:19,635 --> 00:08:24,875 Speaker 1: Amendment room, or more correctly, the elephants. The fourteenth Amendment 125 00:08:24,955 --> 00:08:28,555 Speaker 1: has not been acknowledged in any previous case of ineligibility 126 00:08:28,595 --> 00:08:32,275 Speaker 1: for the presidency, but it has been used without hesitation 127 00:08:32,555 --> 00:08:36,275 Speaker 1: or confusion against candidates for the House and Senate and 128 00:08:36,315 --> 00:08:42,275 Speaker 1: those already elected to those offices. The fourteenth Amendment disqualifies 129 00:08:43,395 --> 00:08:46,755 Speaker 1: Barry louder Milk of Georgia, your genial tour guide to 130 00:08:46,795 --> 00:08:50,595 Speaker 1: the Capitol. The fourteenth disqualifies Clay Higgins and his insistence 131 00:08:50,635 --> 00:08:54,915 Speaker 1: on the record in the House about ghost buses, whatever 132 00:08:54,955 --> 00:08:59,035 Speaker 1: the hell he thinks ghost buses are. It disqualifies the 133 00:08:59,115 --> 00:09:01,795 Speaker 1: Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, and the amicus brief 134 00:09:02,035 --> 00:09:04,955 Speaker 1: to hold up the certification and all those who sign it. 135 00:09:05,475 --> 00:09:09,915 Speaker 1: Disqualifies Congressman Scott Perry and Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green and 136 00:09:09,915 --> 00:09:12,715 Speaker 1: Andy Biggs and Lauren Bobert and Josh Hawley and Ron 137 00:09:12,835 --> 00:09:16,955 Speaker 1: Johnson and Paul Gosar and countless others, and most immediately 138 00:09:17,315 --> 00:09:23,795 Speaker 1: the fourteenth amendment disqualifies Elise Stephanic, who just joined Trump 139 00:09:23,875 --> 00:09:28,515 Speaker 1: in calling the convicted violent perpetrators of the insurrection quote 140 00:09:28,715 --> 00:09:33,515 Speaker 1: hostages unquote. And while we have not yet seen anybody 141 00:09:33,595 --> 00:09:38,755 Speaker 1: act to defend the Constitution in this specific regard, somebody 142 00:09:39,235 --> 00:09:43,715 Speaker 1: finally spoke up and did something about the larger issue 143 00:09:43,755 --> 00:09:49,475 Speaker 1: of Elise Stephanic on the House floor yesterday, Congressman Dan Goldman, 144 00:09:49,595 --> 00:09:52,035 Speaker 1: tenth District, State of New York, thank you, mister speaker. 145 00:09:52,075 --> 00:09:55,595 Speaker 4: I rise today to introduce a resolution to censure Congresswoman 146 00:09:55,635 --> 00:09:59,555 Speaker 4: at Lease Stefanic for providing aid, comfort, and support to 147 00:09:59,635 --> 00:10:03,795 Speaker 4: the rioters and insurrectionists who violently attacked this capital on 148 00:10:03,915 --> 00:10:07,315 Speaker 4: January sixth, twenty twenty one, in an effort to undermine 149 00:10:07,355 --> 00:10:11,195 Speaker 4: our democracy and illegally stop the peaceful transfer of power. 150 00:10:11,835 --> 00:10:15,675 Speaker 4: Since that attempted coup, Miss Stephonic has repeatedly and persistently 151 00:10:16,155 --> 00:10:19,435 Speaker 4: expressed support for the duly convicted insurrectionists. 152 00:10:19,955 --> 00:10:21,275 Speaker 1: Last week, echoing the. 153 00:10:21,235 --> 00:10:26,755 Speaker 4: Inflammatory language of criminal defendant Donald Trump, Misstephonic disgracefully referred 154 00:10:26,795 --> 00:10:32,755 Speaker 4: to the January sixth insurrectionists in prison as quote hostages unquote. 155 00:10:33,275 --> 00:10:37,235 Speaker 4: Mstaephonic support of convicted criminals charged with offenses against the 156 00:10:37,315 --> 00:10:41,315 Speaker 4: United States government, including attempted violence against members of this body, 157 00:10:41,835 --> 00:10:45,915 Speaker 4: is simply unacceptable from a member of Congress. Nor is 158 00:10:45,915 --> 00:10:48,955 Speaker 4: it acceptable for a member of Congress who purports to 159 00:10:48,995 --> 00:10:53,795 Speaker 4: oppose anti Semitism to equate convicted insurrectionists with the more 160 00:10:53,835 --> 00:10:57,715 Speaker 4: than one hundred and thirty Israeli hostages who remain subject 161 00:10:57,755 --> 00:11:01,995 Speaker 4: to her expeditions in Gaza. She therefore must be censured. 162 00:11:02,115 --> 00:11:05,315 Speaker 1: I yield back. That, of course, should be the starting point. 163 00:11:05,355 --> 00:11:08,595 Speaker 1: The fourteenth Amendment has no expiration date on it. It 164 00:11:08,635 --> 00:11:12,435 Speaker 1: has no statute of limitations. Quote. No person shall be 165 00:11:12,475 --> 00:11:16,275 Speaker 1: a Senator or representative in Congress who shall have engaged 166 00:11:16,315 --> 00:11:20,355 Speaker 1: in insurrection or rebellion against the Constitution of the United States, 167 00:11:20,755 --> 00:11:25,595 Speaker 1: or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof, and 168 00:11:25,715 --> 00:11:29,315 Speaker 1: going on national television and calling those convicted of trying 169 00:11:29,355 --> 00:11:32,315 Speaker 1: to break into the Capitol and stop the certification of 170 00:11:32,315 --> 00:11:36,715 Speaker 1: the presidential election hostages. That would be the definition of 171 00:11:36,755 --> 00:11:40,395 Speaker 1: giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States. 172 00:11:40,595 --> 00:11:44,235 Speaker 1: And a least Stephanic is therefore not eligible to serve 173 00:11:44,275 --> 00:11:47,795 Speaker 1: in Congress. Remove her from the twenty twenty four ballot 174 00:11:48,035 --> 00:11:51,595 Speaker 1: in New York State, and let's get this started, begin 175 00:11:51,915 --> 00:11:55,195 Speaker 1: the process of expelling her and the others who have 176 00:11:55,315 --> 00:11:59,515 Speaker 1: been disloyal to this country and given aid and comfort 177 00:11:59,595 --> 00:12:07,035 Speaker 1: to the enemies thereof Back briefly to yesterday's topic and 178 00:12:07,035 --> 00:12:11,315 Speaker 1: the inability of our inflexible, unthinking coterie of dilettants who 179 00:12:11,315 --> 00:12:16,115 Speaker 1: call themselves our political reporters to realize that if forty 180 00:12:16,235 --> 00:12:20,155 Speaker 1: nine percent of the participants in a presidential primary vote 181 00:12:20,195 --> 00:12:24,075 Speaker 1: against the winner, he may still be the winner. But 182 00:12:24,155 --> 00:12:27,195 Speaker 1: he sure as hell didn't crush his opponents or anything 183 00:12:27,195 --> 00:12:34,515 Speaker 1: else except maybe he crushed some adderall. Finally, finally, some 184 00:12:34,595 --> 00:12:37,795 Speaker 1: of the major news organizations did some of the reporting 185 00:12:38,075 --> 00:12:41,355 Speaker 1: they should have done in the immediate wake of Monday's 186 00:12:41,435 --> 00:12:45,395 Speaker 1: vote in Iowa. The key numbers fifty one to forty 187 00:12:45,475 --> 00:12:49,195 Speaker 1: nine is not a landslide, and Trump Yes beating Trump 188 00:12:49,355 --> 00:12:53,115 Speaker 1: No by just two hundred and twenty two votes. That 189 00:12:53,195 --> 00:12:56,515 Speaker 1: should have been the headline. Having failed to make that 190 00:12:56,595 --> 00:13:00,675 Speaker 1: the headline, there is a series of interior numbers and 191 00:13:00,835 --> 00:13:05,355 Speaker 1: places like Politico finally noticed, but these vote look at 192 00:13:05,355 --> 00:13:11,995 Speaker 1: all like a Trump crush. Hey, what happened from Politico yesterday? 193 00:13:12,395 --> 00:13:16,755 Speaker 1: He showed striking weakness in suburban and urban areas. In 194 00:13:16,835 --> 00:13:20,195 Speaker 1: more than three dozen precincts. In the suburbs, Trump received 195 00:13:20,275 --> 00:13:23,675 Speaker 1: less than a quarter of the vote, even while achieving 196 00:13:23,795 --> 00:13:26,995 Speaker 1: blowout wins of ninety plus percent of votes cast in 197 00:13:27,075 --> 00:13:30,715 Speaker 1: a similar number of rural precincts. It also reveals his 198 00:13:30,835 --> 00:13:35,715 Speaker 1: relative vulnerability among suburban and highly educated voters, raising questions 199 00:13:35,755 --> 00:13:38,395 Speaker 1: about how he will win over a voting block that 200 00:13:38,475 --> 00:13:41,915 Speaker 1: has long viewed him with skepticism and helped fuel his 201 00:13:42,035 --> 00:13:43,195 Speaker 1: twenty twenty loss. 202 00:13:44,475 --> 00:13:45,275 Speaker 3: Well, look at that. 203 00:13:46,155 --> 00:13:49,235 Speaker 1: It's not what he asked for, but the tin man 204 00:13:49,275 --> 00:13:55,315 Speaker 1: has gotten a brain. Charlie Sykes from the Bulwark dot com, 205 00:13:55,315 --> 00:13:58,115 Speaker 1: who I never mean to include among the dilettante pundits, 206 00:13:58,155 --> 00:14:00,835 Speaker 1: did the kind of work your average TV commentator or 207 00:14:00,875 --> 00:14:03,955 Speaker 1: writer at Politico would never think to try. Work that 208 00:14:04,035 --> 00:14:08,395 Speaker 1: involved a lot and a calculator. The low turnout Monday 209 00:14:08,435 --> 00:14:12,195 Speaker 1: in Iowa had many reasons, mostly the real field tempts 210 00:14:12,235 --> 00:14:17,755 Speaker 1: as low as thirty below fine valid, but whatever their cause, 211 00:14:18,395 --> 00:14:23,315 Speaker 1: Sikes notes, it means that Trump's vote total Monday comprised 212 00:14:23,515 --> 00:14:31,835 Speaker 1: only eight percent of all the Republicans just in Iowa. 213 00:14:32,075 --> 00:14:35,715 Speaker 1: It's not a landslide if you've gotten eight percent of 214 00:14:35,755 --> 00:14:41,115 Speaker 1: your own parties voters to vote for you. Sikes also 215 00:14:41,195 --> 00:14:43,995 Speaker 1: hit the entrance. In exit polling in Iowa, a quarter 216 00:14:44,115 --> 00:14:46,755 Speaker 1: of those Iowa Republicans who did go to the caucuses 217 00:14:46,795 --> 00:14:49,835 Speaker 1: said they will not vote for Trump in November. That's 218 00:14:49,875 --> 00:14:54,515 Speaker 1: not if he's convicted or if he's dead. That's right now. 219 00:14:54,795 --> 00:14:59,235 Speaker 1: They won't vote for this Trump in November. If he's convicted. 220 00:14:59,555 --> 00:15:02,035 Speaker 1: The no way number jumps from twenty five percent to 221 00:15:02,075 --> 00:15:04,795 Speaker 1: thirty one percent. And by the way, if thirty one 222 00:15:04,795 --> 00:15:07,875 Speaker 1: percent of Republicans across the country will not vote for 223 00:15:07,955 --> 00:15:11,515 Speaker 1: a convicted Trump, he's going to lose in a landslide. 224 00:15:12,355 --> 00:15:17,275 Speaker 1: And nearly half of Haley's backers in Iowa say they 225 00:15:17,315 --> 00:15:22,515 Speaker 1: would vote not for Trump but for Joe Biden. There 226 00:15:22,595 --> 00:15:26,635 Speaker 1: are no indications from Iowa that Trump will be denied 227 00:15:26,675 --> 00:15:30,155 Speaker 1: the nomination in a center guilty, dead or alive. But 228 00:15:30,275 --> 00:15:33,675 Speaker 1: there are also no indications that Iowa proved that Trump 229 00:15:33,755 --> 00:15:36,715 Speaker 1: is even as strong as he was in twenty twenty 230 00:15:36,915 --> 00:15:40,875 Speaker 1: or twenty sixteen, let alone somehow stronger, which seems to 231 00:15:40,875 --> 00:15:45,435 Speaker 1: be the headline everybody had printed. Oh, by the way, 232 00:15:45,875 --> 00:15:49,995 Speaker 1: New Hampshire Tuesday, where Nicki Haley is now up to 233 00:15:50,075 --> 00:15:54,595 Speaker 1: thirty eight percent in new polling. Ron DeSantis is headed 234 00:15:54,635 --> 00:16:01,235 Speaker 1: to South Carolina this weekend. Ron DeSantis just punted New Hampshire. 235 00:16:05,915 --> 00:16:09,315 Speaker 1: Also of interest here, Yes I saw Trump has three 236 00:16:09,475 --> 00:16:14,235 Speaker 1: or four bright red marks on his right hand, one 237 00:16:14,475 --> 00:16:18,595 Speaker 1: on the thumb, one on the forefinger, one or two 238 00:16:18,995 --> 00:16:21,875 Speaker 1: on the upper palm. And yes I saw. James Carville 239 00:16:21,915 --> 00:16:27,155 Speaker 1: has speculated they are not cuts or bruises, but sores, 240 00:16:27,235 --> 00:16:34,195 Speaker 1: sores consistent with the secondary stage of syphilis. No, I 241 00:16:34,195 --> 00:16:40,115 Speaker 1: don't think they are syphilis, although I'll respect mister Carville's 242 00:16:40,115 --> 00:16:43,275 Speaker 1: knowledge of the subject. I don't think there's syphilis, in 243 00:16:43,355 --> 00:16:46,395 Speaker 1: large part because the photos of Trump from Tuesday show 244 00:16:46,515 --> 00:16:48,555 Speaker 1: no red marks on his right hand, and I don't 245 00:16:48,595 --> 00:16:52,395 Speaker 1: think they would burst into full vivid color overnight. I'm 246 00:16:52,395 --> 00:16:55,355 Speaker 1: not a doctor, I just play one on podcasts. But 247 00:16:56,355 --> 00:17:00,955 Speaker 1: the marks are consistent with an old guy slipping on 248 00:17:00,995 --> 00:17:05,675 Speaker 1: the ice in Iowa, in Hampshire, in New York for 249 00:17:05,755 --> 00:17:09,555 Speaker 1: that matter, during his news conference for that matter, and 250 00:17:09,675 --> 00:17:14,435 Speaker 1: grabbing something to support himself or stop himself from face planting. 251 00:17:14,795 --> 00:17:19,275 Speaker 1: The campaign should explain what the marks are actually. I 252 00:17:19,395 --> 00:17:23,035 Speaker 1: will be very disappointed if Trump and his campaign do 253 00:17:23,115 --> 00:17:29,555 Speaker 1: not claim the marks are stigmata. Stigmata, perhaps from Trump's 254 00:17:29,555 --> 00:17:32,995 Speaker 1: holy anger that MSNBC and CNN did not worship him 255 00:17:32,995 --> 00:17:37,715 Speaker 1: sufficiently after Iowa. He wants to have their licenses revoked 256 00:17:38,635 --> 00:17:44,355 Speaker 1: even though they don't have licenses. And for once, I'm 257 00:17:44,395 --> 00:17:49,195 Speaker 1: going to defend Trump sorta. His belief that he can 258 00:17:49,435 --> 00:17:53,635 Speaker 1: bully MSNBC and NBC News into better coverage is based 259 00:17:53,675 --> 00:17:57,755 Speaker 1: on the fact that the Republican Party has already bullied 260 00:17:57,875 --> 00:18:02,315 Speaker 1: MSNBC and NBC News into better coverage thanks to the 261 00:18:02,355 --> 00:18:06,035 Speaker 1: interventions of Tom Brokaw that I was there when they 262 00:18:06,075 --> 00:18:09,595 Speaker 1: did that story. Next, this is an all new edition 263 00:18:09,915 --> 00:18:10,915 Speaker 1: of Countdown. 264 00:18:12,675 --> 00:18:15,635 Speaker 3: This is Countdown with Keith Olberman. 265 00:18:24,955 --> 00:18:29,155 Speaker 1: Oh scripts to the news, some headlines, some updates, some snarks, 266 00:18:29,235 --> 00:18:35,915 Speaker 1: some predictions. Dateline. The Supreme Court, Uh, here we go. 267 00:18:36,235 --> 00:18:39,715 Speaker 1: The Fourteenth Amendment in presidential immunity cases are the obvious 268 00:18:39,755 --> 00:18:42,555 Speaker 1: ones where the Supreme Court can turn this nation into 269 00:18:42,675 --> 00:18:46,995 Speaker 1: Weimar Republic two point zero. But there's another subtler one 270 00:18:47,035 --> 00:18:51,715 Speaker 1: that could basically bar all environmental protection regulations and business 271 00:18:51,715 --> 00:18:55,715 Speaker 1: regulations and you know, anything that keeps the rapacious among 272 00:18:55,795 --> 00:19:01,155 Speaker 1: us frompaciou singing. The Court heard arguments yesterday about a 273 00:19:01,195 --> 00:19:04,995 Speaker 1: repeal of the now forty year old Chevron decision, which 274 00:19:05,035 --> 00:19:09,115 Speaker 1: says that if regulatory statutes are ambiguous, judges have to 275 00:19:09,275 --> 00:19:15,395 Speaker 1: defer to the regulatory agency's interpretations of those statutes. Supreme 276 00:19:15,475 --> 00:19:18,555 Speaker 1: Court watchers said the six members of the Republican Supreme 277 00:19:18,595 --> 00:19:22,355 Speaker 1: Religious Court seemed skeptical of Chevron and seemed willing to 278 00:19:22,475 --> 00:19:25,315 Speaker 1: kill it and with it, the legal basis for most 279 00:19:25,435 --> 00:19:29,355 Speaker 1: government regulations, when the Solicitor General arguing to keep it 280 00:19:29,395 --> 00:19:32,755 Speaker 1: said it would be an unwarranted shock to the legal 281 00:19:32,795 --> 00:19:37,915 Speaker 1: system to remove it. Justice Fratboy M. Kavanaugh belched that 282 00:19:37,995 --> 00:19:40,515 Speaker 1: there were quote shocks to the system every four or 283 00:19:40,515 --> 00:19:43,235 Speaker 1: eight years when a new administration comes in, whether it's 284 00:19:43,235 --> 00:19:48,035 Speaker 1: communications law or securities law, or competition law or environmental law. 285 00:19:49,835 --> 00:19:53,315 Speaker 1: He doesn't like laws. Once again, we approach the point 286 00:19:53,355 --> 00:19:56,315 Speaker 1: at which we will have to decide whether to continue 287 00:19:56,475 --> 00:20:01,035 Speaker 1: to let this illegally packed court push us back towards 288 00:20:01,035 --> 00:20:04,395 Speaker 1: the year eighteen eighty five, or to draw a line 289 00:20:04,475 --> 00:20:08,155 Speaker 1: in the sand and say, hey, nice ruling, boys, and 290 00:20:08,235 --> 00:20:10,835 Speaker 1: how are you going to enforce it? Are you sending 291 00:20:10,915 --> 00:20:17,035 Speaker 1: Clarence over in his RV with brass knuckles? Dateline, Capitol 292 00:20:17,115 --> 00:20:23,995 Speaker 1: Hill Marjorie Taylor Green providing the comic relief yet again. 293 00:20:24,155 --> 00:20:27,955 Speaker 1: Barney rubbles stunt double at a committee hearing, setting herself 294 00:20:28,035 --> 00:20:32,035 Speaker 1: up one more time. I just traveled in airports across 295 00:20:32,075 --> 00:20:34,635 Speaker 1: the country just the past few days. You know what 296 00:20:34,675 --> 00:20:38,235 Speaker 1: I saw on our airports based on Marge's role pursuing 297 00:20:38,315 --> 00:20:43,835 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden, I'm going to say the answer is dick picks. Migrants, 298 00:20:43,915 --> 00:20:48,915 Speaker 1: illegal aliens all over in the airports. Damn it, Well, 299 00:20:49,475 --> 00:20:54,115 Speaker 1: we're the migrants carrying dick picks. Did you ask? Did 300 00:20:54,155 --> 00:20:56,795 Speaker 1: you ask to see their papers? You didn't, since you'd 301 00:20:56,795 --> 00:21:00,795 Speaker 1: have no legal right to do that, Then how do 302 00:21:00,875 --> 00:21:02,675 Speaker 1: you know they were undocumented? 303 00:21:02,755 --> 00:21:18,555 Speaker 3: Marge? 304 00:21:21,075 --> 00:21:45,315 Speaker 1: Thank you? Nancy Faust stell ahead on this all new 305 00:21:45,435 --> 00:21:50,915 Speaker 1: edition of Countdown, the Republican presidential candidate threatening MSNBC, the 306 00:21:50,995 --> 00:21:54,355 Speaker 1: right wing reacting hysterically as usual to what the network 307 00:21:54,395 --> 00:21:57,875 Speaker 1: showed or did not show. I mean that Trump story 308 00:21:57,915 --> 00:22:01,475 Speaker 1: from this week, No, Sir, September two thousand and eight, 309 00:22:02,115 --> 00:22:06,075 Speaker 1: when Goon's working for or on behalf of John McCain 310 00:22:06,755 --> 00:22:11,075 Speaker 1: blackmailed Tom Brokaw into going into his bosses and demanding 311 00:22:11,075 --> 00:22:15,155 Speaker 1: that Chris Matthews and I be fired from presidential debate 312 00:22:15,275 --> 00:22:18,875 Speaker 1: coverage or their guy would not show up to the 313 00:22:18,995 --> 00:22:23,035 Speaker 1: debate fifteen years plus later, and it still shocks me, 314 00:22:24,035 --> 00:22:27,635 Speaker 1: and it still cost them twenty two million dollars, which 315 00:22:27,675 --> 00:22:31,075 Speaker 1: I still have things I promised not to tell. Coming 316 00:22:31,155 --> 00:22:32,515 Speaker 1: up first time for the daily round up of the 317 00:22:32,515 --> 00:22:35,875 Speaker 1: miss Grits, morons and Dunn Kruger effects specimens who constitute 318 00:22:35,915 --> 00:22:42,475 Speaker 1: two days worse persons in the Lebron's Worse. The new 319 00:22:42,475 --> 00:22:47,915 Speaker 1: president of Argentina Wolverine. I'm sorry his name is Hobbier Milay. 320 00:22:48,035 --> 00:22:53,035 Speaker 1: He just looks like Wolverine because of that haircut. They 321 00:22:53,115 --> 00:22:56,555 Speaker 1: let this nutball talk at the World Economic Forum in Davos, 322 00:22:56,875 --> 00:23:00,035 Speaker 1: and he blamed basically all of the world's problems on 323 00:23:01,155 --> 00:23:07,315 Speaker 1: equality for women. Quoting wolver All, that this radical feminism 324 00:23:07,355 --> 00:23:10,475 Speaker 1: agenda has led to is greater state intervention to hinder 325 00:23:10,635 --> 00:23:13,955 Speaker 1: the economic process, giving a job to bureaucrats who have 326 00:23:13,995 --> 00:23:18,235 Speaker 1: not contributed anything to society. Examples ministries of work of 327 00:23:18,275 --> 00:23:21,995 Speaker 1: women or international organizations devoted to promoting this agenda. Another 328 00:23:22,075 --> 00:23:25,475 Speaker 1: conflict presented by socialists is that of humans against nature, 329 00:23:25,715 --> 00:23:28,955 Speaker 1: claiming that we human beings damage the planet, which should 330 00:23:28,995 --> 00:23:31,955 Speaker 1: be protected at all costs, even going as far as 331 00:23:32,035 --> 00:23:40,275 Speaker 1: advocating for population control mechanisms or the bloody abortion agenda. Unquote, congratulations, Argentina, 332 00:23:40,315 --> 00:23:44,235 Speaker 1: your new president is actually dumber than he looks. The 333 00:23:44,315 --> 00:23:48,395 Speaker 1: runner up worser the Babylon B, which is a right 334 00:23:48,475 --> 00:23:53,515 Speaker 1: wing humor website, and there is the ultimate oxymoron. Sure 335 00:23:53,595 --> 00:23:56,915 Speaker 1: is right wing, and it sure has absolutely no humor 336 00:23:56,955 --> 00:24:01,955 Speaker 1: in it, nor any sense of propriety or timing. The 337 00:24:02,035 --> 00:24:05,475 Speaker 1: same day, Vivic Ramaswami drops out of the Gace and 338 00:24:05,555 --> 00:24:09,955 Speaker 1: reiterates that there's no racism and endorses Trump. The Babylon B, 339 00:24:10,155 --> 00:24:12,835 Speaker 1: which thinks it's the Onion, except you know, the Onion 340 00:24:12,955 --> 00:24:17,275 Speaker 1: without any jokes in it, posts a piece headlined Trump 341 00:24:17,435 --> 00:24:22,635 Speaker 1: promises VIVAQ and administration position running the White House seven 342 00:24:22,675 --> 00:24:26,115 Speaker 1: to eleven. The saddest part of that is not that 343 00:24:26,155 --> 00:24:28,555 Speaker 1: it's racist or that it's not funny, but that some 344 00:24:28,675 --> 00:24:33,155 Speaker 1: percentage of Trump's cult will think that's an actual news story. 345 00:24:34,475 --> 00:24:39,795 Speaker 1: But our winner the worst Ben Carson. You remember Ben Carson, 346 00:24:40,395 --> 00:24:43,475 Speaker 1: the brain surgeon who ran for president and the only 347 00:24:43,555 --> 00:24:45,315 Speaker 1: thing he got out of it was a job. And 348 00:24:45,395 --> 00:24:50,515 Speaker 1: the Trump had men running housing and urban development and 349 00:24:50,635 --> 00:24:53,315 Speaker 1: proving to the world that to be a brain surgeon, 350 00:24:53,395 --> 00:24:56,515 Speaker 1: you do not have to have your own brain. For 351 00:24:56,595 --> 00:25:01,555 Speaker 1: some reason, CNN has interviewed Ben Carson about Trump's promise 352 00:25:01,835 --> 00:25:05,235 Speaker 1: to round up migrants and keep them in concentratation camps. 353 00:25:05,275 --> 00:25:07,995 Speaker 1: Although the CNN host was nice enough to defer to 354 00:25:08,115 --> 00:25:13,115 Speaker 1: Trump and the Republicans and called them internment camps, Carson 355 00:25:13,155 --> 00:25:15,955 Speaker 1: emphasized in response that the goal is to keep migrants 356 00:25:15,955 --> 00:25:18,275 Speaker 1: from coming here in the first place, and again that 357 00:25:18,395 --> 00:25:21,115 Speaker 1: by itself is laugh out loud funny. There is political 358 00:25:21,155 --> 00:25:25,435 Speaker 1: cap collapse driven by climate change underway already right now, 359 00:25:25,875 --> 00:25:29,115 Speaker 1: and that ain't stopping anytime soon. So good luck getting 360 00:25:29,155 --> 00:25:31,915 Speaker 1: them to stay there and fry rather than coming here 361 00:25:32,155 --> 00:25:34,915 Speaker 1: and take their chances. But then Ben Carson said something, 362 00:25:35,515 --> 00:25:40,595 Speaker 1: So Ben Carson, in that sedated man, I hope he's 363 00:25:40,635 --> 00:25:44,675 Speaker 1: brighter than that when he operates way of his Carson 364 00:25:44,715 --> 00:25:47,155 Speaker 1: was asked if he would support Trump's decision to open 365 00:25:47,235 --> 00:25:51,475 Speaker 1: the camps, and he actually replied, quote, well, they have 366 00:25:51,555 --> 00:25:57,315 Speaker 1: to have some place to stay. Unquote Ben, is that 367 00:25:57,395 --> 00:26:00,995 Speaker 1: also your answer when they ask you about slaves on 368 00:26:01,115 --> 00:26:05,515 Speaker 1: the plantations in this country in the eighteenth and nineteenth cents, Carson, 369 00:26:06,035 --> 00:26:09,515 Speaker 1: they have to have some place to stay. Two days. 370 00:26:10,355 --> 00:26:27,395 Speaker 1: Worst person in the world just ahead Trump demanding MSNBC 371 00:26:27,515 --> 00:26:29,755 Speaker 1: should lose its license, even though it doesn't have a 372 00:26:29,795 --> 00:26:33,515 Speaker 1: license for not televising his latest victory speech. It's actually 373 00:26:33,555 --> 00:26:36,995 Speaker 1: not something he invented. The Republicans have been doing stuff 374 00:26:37,075 --> 00:26:40,555 Speaker 1: like this to MSNBC since two thousand and eight and 375 00:26:40,715 --> 00:26:43,635 Speaker 1: sadly getting away with it. Things I promise not to 376 00:26:43,675 --> 00:26:45,755 Speaker 1: tell next first time for another dog in need, you 377 00:26:45,795 --> 00:26:47,995 Speaker 1: can help. Every dog has its day and we go 378 00:26:48,035 --> 00:26:50,755 Speaker 1: to Anson County, North Carolina and a puppy they have 379 00:26:50,875 --> 00:26:55,435 Speaker 1: called Sweet Cheeks seventeen weeks old, a beautiful white and 380 00:26:55,515 --> 00:26:59,275 Speaker 1: tan dog found abandoned and paralyzed on the side of 381 00:26:59,315 --> 00:27:03,515 Speaker 1: a road there, literally left to die, probably after being 382 00:27:03,555 --> 00:27:06,755 Speaker 1: beaten by a human. Only by accident was he found 383 00:27:06,795 --> 00:27:09,915 Speaker 1: before another animal or exposure killed him. This is a 384 00:27:09,915 --> 00:27:12,155 Speaker 1: lot of money that might not get the result we want, 385 00:27:12,195 --> 00:27:14,155 Speaker 1: but we have to try. They want to try to 386 00:27:14,195 --> 00:27:17,755 Speaker 1: get him the definition of innocence betrayed by humans, To 387 00:27:17,835 --> 00:27:20,195 Speaker 1: get him back the use of his legs. This means 388 00:27:20,235 --> 00:27:23,475 Speaker 1: treating his injuries and then seeing if surgery might get 389 00:27:23,555 --> 00:27:25,835 Speaker 1: him back the use of his legs. My friends at 390 00:27:25,875 --> 00:27:29,195 Speaker 1: Hounds in Pounds are fundraising for him. They're going for 391 00:27:29,195 --> 00:27:32,715 Speaker 1: four thousand dollars. You can find Sweet Cheeks at givinggrid 392 00:27:32,755 --> 00:27:35,475 Speaker 1: dot com and I'll tweet him out too. Your donations 393 00:27:35,515 --> 00:27:39,355 Speaker 1: can help, and so also can your reposts. Sweet Cheeks, 394 00:27:39,395 --> 00:27:48,595 Speaker 1: thanks you, and I thank you to the number one 395 00:27:48,635 --> 00:27:51,235 Speaker 1: story on the countdown and things I promised not to tell. 396 00:27:51,315 --> 00:27:55,435 Speaker 1: And the right wing went nuts over MSNBC and CNN 397 00:27:55,635 --> 00:28:00,075 Speaker 1: not showing all of Trump's self congratulatory speech from Iowa 398 00:28:00,155 --> 00:28:04,235 Speaker 1: Monday night, and Hannity attacking Matdow and Trump insisting that 399 00:28:04,275 --> 00:28:07,635 Speaker 1: they're licenses should be taken away, confirming he's either crazy 400 00:28:07,715 --> 00:28:11,275 Speaker 1: or stupid because of course they don't have licenses, although 401 00:28:11,275 --> 00:28:13,675 Speaker 1: this does portend what he will try to do if 402 00:28:13,675 --> 00:28:17,275 Speaker 1: he seeses power, is intent to punish news outlets not 403 00:28:17,395 --> 00:28:22,275 Speaker 1: just for criticizing him, but for not praising him enough. 404 00:28:23,475 --> 00:28:28,555 Speaker 1: And boy did this flash me back because this happened 405 00:28:28,635 --> 00:28:33,075 Speaker 1: to me at MSNBC in two thousand and eight courtesy 406 00:28:33,155 --> 00:28:37,595 Speaker 1: the supposed sane Republicans who preceded these insane Republicans, and 407 00:28:37,635 --> 00:28:40,995 Speaker 1: it underscores that there never really have been sane Republicans 408 00:28:41,155 --> 00:28:43,635 Speaker 1: and they have always longed to dictate to the media 409 00:28:43,635 --> 00:28:45,635 Speaker 1: what it can and cannot say about them, and thanks 410 00:28:45,675 --> 00:28:49,355 Speaker 1: to people like Tom Brokaw, they often get away with it. 411 00:28:50,235 --> 00:28:53,395 Speaker 1: Chris Matthews and I were co anchoring the Republican Convention 412 00:28:53,555 --> 00:28:56,235 Speaker 1: on MSNBC in two thousand and eight. He was there 413 00:28:56,275 --> 00:28:59,435 Speaker 1: at the convention in Minnesota. I was in the studios 414 00:28:59,555 --> 00:29:02,755 Speaker 1: at thirty Rock in New York, ostensibly so I could 415 00:29:02,755 --> 00:29:06,195 Speaker 1: also anchor hurricane covering, though it was pretty clear that 416 00:29:06,235 --> 00:29:08,555 Speaker 1: at least half the reason I was not in Minneapolis 417 00:29:08,635 --> 00:29:11,635 Speaker 1: was because the Republicans had threatened NBC or said they 418 00:29:11,675 --> 00:29:14,515 Speaker 1: could not guarantee my safety there or something like that. 419 00:29:15,395 --> 00:29:18,355 Speaker 1: So I was the one on September two, two thousand 420 00:29:18,395 --> 00:29:20,675 Speaker 1: and eight, who had to throw it to a video 421 00:29:21,395 --> 00:29:23,515 Speaker 1: that we had been told by the Republicans was a 422 00:29:23,675 --> 00:29:26,155 Speaker 1: tribute to the dead of nine to eleven that they 423 00:29:26,155 --> 00:29:30,755 Speaker 1: were playing in the theater in their convention in Minnesota. 424 00:29:31,315 --> 00:29:33,875 Speaker 1: It was not a tribute. It was a snuff film. 425 00:29:34,235 --> 00:29:37,035 Speaker 1: All of the images that the networks had stopped showing 426 00:29:37,075 --> 00:29:39,155 Speaker 1: of nine to eleven within weeks or even days of 427 00:29:39,155 --> 00:29:43,155 Speaker 1: the attacks, all of them were in this snuff film. 428 00:29:43,195 --> 00:29:46,235 Speaker 1: People jumping, falling to their deaths from the World Trade Center, 429 00:29:46,315 --> 00:29:50,195 Speaker 1: endless replays of the planes hitting the towers, dismembered bodies 430 00:29:50,195 --> 00:29:54,315 Speaker 1: in the plaza, the building collapses, the equally terrifying scenes 431 00:29:54,355 --> 00:29:57,635 Speaker 1: at the Pentagon, and all with the grotesque voiceover from 432 00:29:57,715 --> 00:30:01,555 Speaker 1: that Fink Robert Dovey emphasizing that this was all the 433 00:30:01,635 --> 00:30:04,635 Speaker 1: Democrats fault. The message was they might as well pray 434 00:30:04,955 --> 00:30:07,915 Speaker 1: this way, elect Obama and you will die, and you 435 00:30:07,995 --> 00:30:13,035 Speaker 1: will die like this. I was angry just on that 436 00:30:13,155 --> 00:30:15,675 Speaker 1: base level. For that five and a half years I 437 00:30:15,675 --> 00:30:18,275 Speaker 1: had been back at MSNBC, we had been rigorous about 438 00:30:18,315 --> 00:30:21,355 Speaker 1: not showing any of that video that the Republicans had 439 00:30:21,435 --> 00:30:24,515 Speaker 1: just forced upon us by lying to us about it. 440 00:30:25,115 --> 00:30:27,915 Speaker 1: There were rules that if we had to for some 441 00:30:28,195 --> 00:30:32,995 Speaker 1: reason sneed some snippet, we would show only skill images, 442 00:30:33,035 --> 00:30:35,595 Speaker 1: and even then only with extensive warnings to the viewers. 443 00:30:36,595 --> 00:30:39,555 Speaker 1: But I knew from my conversations with the president of MSNBC, 444 00:30:39,635 --> 00:30:42,155 Speaker 1: Phil Griffin, who I had known for twenty eight years 445 00:30:42,155 --> 00:30:44,515 Speaker 1: at that point, that he would insist that on the 446 00:30:44,555 --> 00:30:47,715 Speaker 1: scene in Minneapolis, Matthews and Tom Brokaw, whose career at 447 00:30:47,795 --> 00:30:52,075 Speaker 1: NBC I had resuscitated after Brian Williams had buried him 448 00:30:52,115 --> 00:30:55,355 Speaker 1: alive two years earlier. I knew from what Griffin told 449 00:30:55,435 --> 00:30:58,475 Speaker 1: me that one or both of them would rebuke the 450 00:30:58,515 --> 00:31:01,955 Speaker 1: GOP for showing not a nine to eleven tribute, but, 451 00:31:02,035 --> 00:31:04,075 Speaker 1: as I just said, a nine to eleven snuff film. 452 00:31:05,275 --> 00:31:08,635 Speaker 1: The snuff film ended, we came out to Brokaw and Matthews, 453 00:31:09,075 --> 00:31:12,435 Speaker 1: and Brokaw kind of coughed, and Matthews said wow. And 454 00:31:12,555 --> 00:31:14,995 Speaker 1: he turned to Brokaw and said, in that loose fire 455 00:31:15,035 --> 00:31:18,915 Speaker 1: hose delivery he had tom that kind of scores terrorism. 456 00:31:18,915 --> 00:31:22,875 Speaker 1: Big thing for Republicans. They try stop Obama. Brokaw droned 457 00:31:22,955 --> 00:31:27,395 Speaker 1: on approvingly, the Republican sneaking a snuff film, a banned 458 00:31:27,515 --> 00:31:31,395 Speaker 1: video onto MSNBC and by the way, also onto CNN, 459 00:31:31,675 --> 00:31:35,795 Speaker 1: onto NBC, proper, onto CBS, onto ABC without any warning. 460 00:31:36,035 --> 00:31:40,755 Speaker 1: That was not mentioned. Back to New York Ton Keith, 461 00:31:41,595 --> 00:31:43,875 Speaker 1: I was supposed to add liberates about what we were 462 00:31:43,875 --> 00:31:46,275 Speaker 1: expecting from the Republican convention for the rest of the 463 00:31:46,395 --> 00:31:49,475 Speaker 1: night and then throw to a commercial. Instead, I said, 464 00:31:49,515 --> 00:31:52,195 Speaker 1: and this is a paraphrase, the original tape disappeared that 465 00:31:52,355 --> 00:31:55,155 Speaker 1: night that before we moved on, I felt I needed 466 00:31:55,195 --> 00:31:58,955 Speaker 1: to apologize that we at MSNBC and for that matter, 467 00:31:58,995 --> 00:32:03,275 Speaker 1: at NBC News at extremely strict rules about not showing 468 00:32:03,315 --> 00:32:07,515 Speaker 1: the video the publicans had just shown you via our network, 469 00:32:07,555 --> 00:32:12,395 Speaker 1: without any warning, without any context, and by lying to us, 470 00:32:12,915 --> 00:32:15,035 Speaker 1: And we certainly would not have shown the horror and 471 00:32:15,195 --> 00:32:18,915 Speaker 1: death and blamed it on the Democrats, or for that matter, 472 00:32:18,995 --> 00:32:21,835 Speaker 1: on the Republicans. I said, if we had done such 473 00:32:21,835 --> 00:32:25,595 Speaker 1: a thing ourselves, there would have been people fired. The 474 00:32:25,675 --> 00:32:28,675 Speaker 1: public program the GOP provided said that was going to 475 00:32:28,715 --> 00:32:30,795 Speaker 1: be a nine to eleven tribute film, I said, And 476 00:32:30,915 --> 00:32:33,555 Speaker 1: so did the private conversations with the network, which included 477 00:32:33,555 --> 00:32:36,395 Speaker 1: the reminder from NBC and MSNBC that we had rules 478 00:32:36,955 --> 00:32:40,595 Speaker 1: against showing the scenes of horrible death and mutilation and destruction. 479 00:32:41,835 --> 00:32:45,875 Speaker 1: So I apologized on behalf of whoever trusted the Republicans 480 00:32:45,875 --> 00:32:49,155 Speaker 1: to live up to their word, that MSNBC viewers were 481 00:32:49,155 --> 00:32:52,635 Speaker 1: forced to see the video our network had promised never 482 00:32:52,715 --> 00:32:58,235 Speaker 1: to show them. So three nights later, without as much 483 00:32:58,475 --> 00:33:01,195 Speaker 1: as an email to me, this Griffin had called my 484 00:33:01,315 --> 00:33:04,155 Speaker 1: agent and told her I was fired and Matthews two 485 00:33:04,235 --> 00:33:07,915 Speaker 1: from our coverage of the upcoming McCain Obama debates. I 486 00:33:07,955 --> 00:33:10,195 Speaker 1: happened to be off that night in the press box 487 00:33:10,235 --> 00:33:13,395 Speaker 1: watching a Mets Phillies game at Shay Stadium, so she 488 00:33:13,475 --> 00:33:15,995 Speaker 1: had to relate these details to me by phone as 489 00:33:15,995 --> 00:33:18,835 Speaker 1: I walked down the many ramps in the stadium's bowels 490 00:33:19,435 --> 00:33:22,595 Speaker 1: and headed towards the subway. I told her to call 491 00:33:22,635 --> 00:33:25,035 Speaker 1: Griffin back and tell him I was quitting on the 492 00:33:25,075 --> 00:33:29,115 Speaker 1: spot right then, and he could work his way out 493 00:33:29,155 --> 00:33:33,395 Speaker 1: of the ensuing disaster by himself. Liberal network MSNBC fires 494 00:33:33,435 --> 00:33:36,915 Speaker 1: liberal host Alderman for criticizing conservatives for sneaking nine to 495 00:33:36,955 --> 00:33:39,995 Speaker 1: eleven snuff film onto MSNBC. He could work his way 496 00:33:40,035 --> 00:33:43,235 Speaker 1: out of that disaster any way he chose, and then 497 00:33:43,275 --> 00:33:46,955 Speaker 1: he could wait for my response on Good Morning America, CBS, 498 00:33:46,995 --> 00:33:50,675 Speaker 1: This Morning, the PBS News Hour, any other news program 499 00:33:50,715 --> 00:33:55,155 Speaker 1: that bothered to ask and in court. I made a 500 00:33:55,195 --> 00:33:59,075 Speaker 1: few phone calls to friendly voices within the NBC management structure, 501 00:33:59,635 --> 00:34:01,995 Speaker 1: got from them a clearer picture of what had happened. 502 00:34:02,475 --> 00:34:05,555 Speaker 1: And despite the spotty cell service along the elevated train 503 00:34:05,635 --> 00:34:07,995 Speaker 1: line heading back into Manhattan, I got a message from 504 00:34:08,035 --> 00:34:11,555 Speaker 1: a newspaper reporter friend who neatly tied together all that 505 00:34:11,675 --> 00:34:16,555 Speaker 1: I was hearing elsewhere. Tom Brokaw is going around NBC 506 00:34:16,795 --> 00:34:19,675 Speaker 1: saying he got you fired from the debates because the 507 00:34:19,715 --> 00:34:25,395 Speaker 1: Republicans told him to. Nine maybe ten months earlier, the 508 00:34:25,395 --> 00:34:27,155 Speaker 1: same Phil Griffin had come to me and asked me 509 00:34:27,195 --> 00:34:29,315 Speaker 1: if I would be okay with Brokaw appearing during our 510 00:34:29,355 --> 00:34:32,515 Speaker 1: weekly coverage of the Democratic and Republican primaries. Just a 511 00:34:32,515 --> 00:34:35,995 Speaker 1: couple of minutes, buddy, like from a perspective desk, that's 512 00:34:35,995 --> 00:34:39,555 Speaker 1: all he wants to do. He's so unhappy Brian Williams 513 00:34:39,595 --> 00:34:43,155 Speaker 1: has frozen him out of everything. I was appalled, but 514 00:34:43,275 --> 00:34:46,715 Speaker 1: not surprised. The power had gone to Brian's head, and 515 00:34:46,755 --> 00:34:51,995 Speaker 1: of course there it had not met very much resistance. Plus, 516 00:34:51,995 --> 00:34:53,795 Speaker 1: as I said to Griffin, you're asking me if i'd 517 00:34:53,795 --> 00:34:58,195 Speaker 1: like to add Tom Brokaw's experience and Tom Brocaw's gravitas 518 00:34:58,875 --> 00:35:02,235 Speaker 1: to stuff I'm anchoring when I'm not sure I know 519 00:35:02,315 --> 00:35:03,875 Speaker 1: as much as I really know to do this the 520 00:35:03,915 --> 00:35:08,435 Speaker 1: right way. Tom to be fair fit in beautifully, and 521 00:35:08,475 --> 00:35:12,475 Speaker 1: twice after those long Tuesday evenings during the primaries, he 522 00:35:12,595 --> 00:35:15,555 Speaker 1: sent me brief emails awarding me what he called the 523 00:35:15,635 --> 00:35:19,355 Speaker 1: game ball because he was so impressed by my ability 524 00:35:19,395 --> 00:35:23,035 Speaker 1: to balance the roles of political anchor and political commentator. 525 00:35:23,915 --> 00:35:27,035 Speaker 1: Having tried this myself, he wrote, I know of a 526 00:35:27,075 --> 00:35:33,195 Speaker 1: perilous tight roupe. This is game ball to koh. I 527 00:35:33,275 --> 00:35:35,075 Speaker 1: mocked them now, but they meant so much to me 528 00:35:35,155 --> 00:35:37,115 Speaker 1: then that I printed them out and carried them in 529 00:35:37,235 --> 00:35:43,155 Speaker 1: my wallet until September. And now Brokaw had gotten me 530 00:35:43,355 --> 00:35:47,555 Speaker 1: fired because, as my newspaper friend said, the Republicans told 531 00:35:47,635 --> 00:35:52,075 Speaker 1: him to well, that wasn't hard to unpack either. Tim 532 00:35:52,115 --> 00:35:54,475 Speaker 1: Russard had died on the third of June that year. 533 00:35:55,235 --> 00:35:57,835 Speaker 1: I anchored that night until two in the morning. It 534 00:35:57,955 --> 00:36:02,995 Speaker 1: was still an open wound. There were still tears. We 535 00:36:03,075 --> 00:36:05,435 Speaker 1: didn't know it then, but the structure of NBC News 536 00:36:05,435 --> 00:36:10,155 Speaker 1: and the perilous tightroup balancing NBC and MSNBC had died 537 00:36:10,195 --> 00:36:13,515 Speaker 1: with Tim Russard. So did the role of moderator of 538 00:36:13,555 --> 00:36:17,155 Speaker 1: the second debate between John McCain and Barack Obama, scheduled 539 00:36:17,155 --> 00:36:20,635 Speaker 1: for about a month. From my subway ride on October seventh, 540 00:36:20,635 --> 00:36:24,035 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight in Nashville, Tim had not even 541 00:36:24,075 --> 00:36:27,395 Speaker 1: been buried yet when Brokaw began to angle to get 542 00:36:27,395 --> 00:36:30,635 Speaker 1: that assignment that was now vacant. Along with brushing away 543 00:36:30,675 --> 00:36:33,395 Speaker 1: the dirt of his penny anti role on the MSNBC 544 00:36:33,595 --> 00:36:36,435 Speaker 1: Perspective Desk, leaving us in the lurch in order to 545 00:36:36,475 --> 00:36:41,995 Speaker 1: take over Tim's spot as Brian's sage sidekick on Big NBC. 546 00:36:43,595 --> 00:36:46,115 Speaker 1: The month of four August, there had been a story 547 00:36:46,115 --> 00:36:47,835 Speaker 1: coming out of the east end of the third floor 548 00:36:47,875 --> 00:36:50,955 Speaker 1: at thirty Rock, where NBC News managers sat around not 549 00:36:51,075 --> 00:36:54,675 Speaker 1: doing much of anything, that a Republican goon named Ed 550 00:36:54,755 --> 00:36:57,875 Speaker 1: Gillespie had been in there with Griffin and the idiot 551 00:36:57,955 --> 00:37:02,075 Speaker 1: NBC News president Steve CAPPIs trying to get me silenced 552 00:37:02,195 --> 00:37:06,035 Speaker 1: or fired or off the convention coverage or something, and 553 00:37:06,155 --> 00:37:10,075 Speaker 1: that somebody prominent from NBC News was in there with 554 00:37:10,355 --> 00:37:14,835 Speaker 1: Gillespie or was invoked by Gillespie. The rumor mill was 555 00:37:14,875 --> 00:37:18,355 Speaker 1: not confident in who it was or what exactly they 556 00:37:18,355 --> 00:37:23,275 Speaker 1: were doing. That Friday night in September two thousand and eight, 557 00:37:23,355 --> 00:37:25,675 Speaker 1: as I switched from the elevated seven train to the 558 00:37:25,755 --> 00:37:29,995 Speaker 1: underground f the whole thing came together before my comments 559 00:37:30,035 --> 00:37:33,035 Speaker 1: about the GOP Convention nine to eleven snuff film. Gillespie 560 00:37:33,115 --> 00:37:36,635 Speaker 1: had come in and had somehow vaguely threatened Campus and 561 00:37:36,675 --> 00:37:41,595 Speaker 1: Griffin about me using as leverage the debate, which Tom 562 00:37:41,595 --> 00:37:44,035 Speaker 1: Brokaw was now supposed to moderate the one that had 563 00:37:44,075 --> 00:37:48,235 Speaker 1: been Russert's, and when I apologized for their snuff video 564 00:37:48,355 --> 00:37:51,115 Speaker 1: on our air, Gillespie must have turned it into an 565 00:37:51,115 --> 00:37:54,755 Speaker 1: either or get rid of me, or McCain would refuse 566 00:37:54,835 --> 00:38:00,395 Speaker 1: to participate in any debate moderated by Brokaw. Tom Brokaw 567 00:38:00,395 --> 00:38:02,675 Speaker 1: had already come back from the dead once in two 568 00:38:02,675 --> 00:38:05,635 Speaker 1: thousand and eight. I had made that happen, and he 569 00:38:05,715 --> 00:38:07,955 Speaker 1: would be damned if he would be forced to do 570 00:38:08,035 --> 00:38:11,515 Speaker 1: it a second time. But as the train took me 571 00:38:11,595 --> 00:38:13,515 Speaker 1: home to an apartment, I was now going to have 572 00:38:13,555 --> 00:38:16,115 Speaker 1: to sell since I had quit MSNBC on the spot 573 00:38:16,155 --> 00:38:19,635 Speaker 1: for folding to such obvious blackmail, something else now occurred 574 00:38:19,675 --> 00:38:24,235 Speaker 1: to me. Why would MSNBC or NBC or our parent 575 00:38:24,275 --> 00:38:27,915 Speaker 1: corporation GE actually think that they could remove me from 576 00:38:27,955 --> 00:38:33,675 Speaker 1: the debate coverage on MSNBC where the Rachel Meadow Show 577 00:38:34,355 --> 00:38:36,435 Speaker 1: had not yet been born and was only going to 578 00:38:36,475 --> 00:38:39,795 Speaker 1: premiere the next week, and the three times a night 579 00:38:39,875 --> 00:38:42,395 Speaker 1: my show ran accounted for something like sixty percent of 580 00:38:42,435 --> 00:38:45,475 Speaker 1: the entire day's network audience and all of its profits. 581 00:38:45,795 --> 00:38:47,195 Speaker 1: How did they think they were going to get away 582 00:38:47,195 --> 00:38:51,155 Speaker 1: with that without a really bad reaction from our audience. Plus, 583 00:38:51,195 --> 00:38:54,595 Speaker 1: if a newspaper man already knew the Brokaw part, how 584 00:38:54,635 --> 00:38:58,195 Speaker 1: could this story be avoided something like this. MSNBC has 585 00:38:58,195 --> 00:39:01,195 Speaker 1: announced it had removed its liberal star Keith Alumman from 586 00:39:01,235 --> 00:39:05,475 Speaker 1: coverage of the McCain Obama presidential debates. Sources firmed former 587 00:39:05,595 --> 00:39:10,515 Speaker 1: NBC News anchorman Tom Brokaw, now an MSNBC commentator, had 588 00:39:10,555 --> 00:39:14,435 Speaker 1: helped the Republican Party to blackmail NBC into the decision. 589 00:39:15,075 --> 00:39:19,035 Speaker 1: Olderman immediately resigned, saying, quote in succumbing to this coercion 590 00:39:19,075 --> 00:39:22,315 Speaker 1: on behalf of John McCain, NBC has now forfeited any 591 00:39:22,355 --> 00:39:24,915 Speaker 1: further right to be called a news organization, and I'm 592 00:39:24,955 --> 00:39:28,955 Speaker 1: sad to say MSNBC, which I built, is now dead. 593 00:39:29,955 --> 00:39:32,475 Speaker 1: At that point, it dawned on me that the only 594 00:39:32,515 --> 00:39:35,235 Speaker 1: thing that could save the credibility of the whole NBC 595 00:39:35,315 --> 00:39:39,515 Speaker 1: News division and the careers of Griffin and Cappus and 596 00:39:39,675 --> 00:39:43,875 Speaker 1: NBC Network President Jeff Zooker, and especially Tom Brokaw, was 597 00:39:43,955 --> 00:39:47,755 Speaker 1: for me to publicly state, to lie that I had 598 00:39:47,875 --> 00:39:50,995 Speaker 1: asked to be removed from anchoring the debates because the 599 00:39:51,675 --> 00:39:54,795 Speaker 1: whatever was just too much blah blah, blah for me, 600 00:39:54,995 --> 00:39:57,315 Speaker 1: and I felt I should just stick to the post 601 00:39:57,315 --> 00:40:02,275 Speaker 1: debate analysis and commentary and blah blah blah blah blah. 602 00:40:02,755 --> 00:40:05,275 Speaker 1: In short, they would have a choice. They could fire 603 00:40:05,355 --> 00:40:08,355 Speaker 1: me from the debates and destroy everything, including the one 604 00:40:08,435 --> 00:40:11,195 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars a year or so in profits NBC 605 00:40:11,395 --> 00:40:14,915 Speaker 1: was suddenly making off MSNBC after years of losing about 606 00:40:14,915 --> 00:40:18,555 Speaker 1: that much. Or I could lie and claim it was 607 00:40:18,635 --> 00:40:22,555 Speaker 1: my idea and I could save everybody's ass and their money, 608 00:40:22,635 --> 00:40:26,675 Speaker 1: including my own. I got out of the subway and 609 00:40:26,835 --> 00:40:30,035 Speaker 1: raced home. I called my agent. I explained it to her. 610 00:40:30,235 --> 00:40:32,595 Speaker 1: I'm not quitting. In fact, I'm going to get a 611 00:40:32,675 --> 00:40:36,355 Speaker 1: huge raise. Listen carefully, you call Griffin back and explain 612 00:40:36,435 --> 00:40:39,035 Speaker 1: to him I will now personally save his job even 613 00:40:39,075 --> 00:40:42,235 Speaker 1: though he doesn't deserve it, and campuses and Zooker's and 614 00:40:42,275 --> 00:40:46,595 Speaker 1: bro Cause and everybody else's. I'll take the fall instead 615 00:40:46,595 --> 00:40:50,515 Speaker 1: of letting them get fired by the MSNBC audience. I'll 616 00:40:50,555 --> 00:40:53,875 Speaker 1: say this was my idea and it will cost him 617 00:40:54,115 --> 00:40:58,755 Speaker 1: only twelve million dollars. Oh, and he has to leak 618 00:40:58,795 --> 00:41:01,235 Speaker 1: the fact that it cost him twelve million dollars. That's 619 00:41:01,275 --> 00:41:05,515 Speaker 1: the deal. And she paused for a second, and she said, Hey, 620 00:41:05,515 --> 00:41:08,915 Speaker 1: that's genius. It might not quite be twelve, but I 621 00:41:08,995 --> 00:41:14,675 Speaker 1: bet I get at least nine million. On Sunday, several 622 00:41:14,675 --> 00:41:18,275 Speaker 1: news organizations reported I had asked to be taken off 623 00:41:18,315 --> 00:41:21,955 Speaker 1: the anchor desk for the debates. Two months and one 624 00:41:21,995 --> 00:41:25,715 Speaker 1: week later, The New York Times wrote, quote, Keith Olberman, 625 00:41:25,795 --> 00:41:28,795 Speaker 1: the anchor of Countdown on MSNBC, has extended his contract 626 00:41:28,835 --> 00:41:31,955 Speaker 1: through the next presidential election season. The networking outs mister 627 00:41:32,035 --> 00:41:35,235 Speaker 1: Olderman and MSNBC essentially tore up the four year, four 628 00:41:35,315 --> 00:41:38,195 Speaker 1: million dollar a year contract they signed last year and 629 00:41:38,275 --> 00:41:40,395 Speaker 1: replaced it with one worth about seven and a half 630 00:41:40,475 --> 00:41:43,155 Speaker 1: million a year. So that was a three and a 631 00:41:43,195 --> 00:41:46,675 Speaker 1: half million dollar raise for four years to a total 632 00:41:46,715 --> 00:41:50,795 Speaker 1: of fourteen million dollars. Except the new contract added two 633 00:41:50,835 --> 00:41:53,555 Speaker 1: years to my old deal, so the rays was actually 634 00:41:53,555 --> 00:41:59,635 Speaker 1: twenty two million dollars. All stories have punchlines. This punchline 635 00:41:59,675 --> 00:42:02,755 Speaker 1: is about Brocaw. We would have gotten away with this, 636 00:42:03,395 --> 00:42:05,275 Speaker 1: NBC would have gotten its money, and he's worth for 637 00:42:05,315 --> 00:42:07,115 Speaker 1: the twenty two million in hush money it had to 638 00:42:07,155 --> 00:42:10,835 Speaker 1: pay me because it had rolled over for Republican Party blackmail. 639 00:42:11,315 --> 00:42:16,475 Speaker 1: Except Brokaw couldn't keep his mouth shut. So proud was 640 00:42:16,515 --> 00:42:19,555 Speaker 1: he of preserving his role as moderator of the October 641 00:42:19,595 --> 00:42:23,195 Speaker 1: seventh debate that he had to explain in explicit detail 642 00:42:23,475 --> 00:42:25,835 Speaker 1: how he went to his bosses at NBC News and 643 00:42:25,915 --> 00:42:29,315 Speaker 1: threatened them on behalf of the GOP. I mean on 644 00:42:29,355 --> 00:42:33,635 Speaker 1: the record, he said this September twenty ninth, a lengthy 645 00:42:33,715 --> 00:42:37,595 Speaker 1: and glowing Brocaw profile in The New York Times. Quote 646 00:42:38,035 --> 00:42:42,675 Speaker 1: mister Brocaw said that over the summer he'd quote advocated 647 00:42:43,195 --> 00:42:45,835 Speaker 1: within the executive suite of NBC News to modify the 648 00:42:45,875 --> 00:42:48,915 Speaker 1: anchor duties of the MSNBC hosts Keith Olderman and Chris 649 00:42:48,915 --> 00:42:51,595 Speaker 1: Matthews on election Night and on knights where there were 650 00:42:51,635 --> 00:42:55,635 Speaker 1: presidential debates. Mister Brokaw said he had also conducted some 651 00:42:55,675 --> 00:43:00,235 Speaker 1: shuttle diplomacy in recent weeks between NBC and the McCain campaign. 652 00:43:00,995 --> 00:43:03,635 Speaker 1: His mission, he said, was to assure the candidate's aids 653 00:43:03,635 --> 00:43:06,795 Speaker 1: that despite some negative on air commentary by mister Olberman 654 00:43:06,835 --> 00:43:10,355 Speaker 1: in particular, mister McCain could still get a fair shake 655 00:43:10,435 --> 00:43:16,155 Speaker 1: from NBC News. Unquote. That was his mission, the hell, 656 00:43:16,235 --> 00:43:20,475 Speaker 1: that was his mission. Happily, brocaonc just could not resist 657 00:43:20,555 --> 00:43:26,315 Speaker 1: boasting even further. The next sentence reads quote, Mister Brocaw 658 00:43:26,395 --> 00:43:28,675 Speaker 1: said he had been told by a senior McCain aide 659 00:43:28,875 --> 00:43:32,035 Speaker 1: whom he did not name, that the campaign had been 660 00:43:32,075 --> 00:43:35,115 Speaker 1: reluctant to accept an NBC representative as one of the 661 00:43:35,115 --> 00:43:40,195 Speaker 1: moderators of the three presidential debates until his name was invoked. 662 00:43:40,595 --> 00:43:42,875 Speaker 1: One of the things I was told by this person 663 00:43:43,315 --> 00:43:45,555 Speaker 1: was that they were so irritated. They said, if it's 664 00:43:45,555 --> 00:43:48,635 Speaker 1: an NBC moalorator for any of these debates, we won't go. 665 00:43:49,195 --> 00:43:52,555 Speaker 1: Mister Brocaw said, my name came up, and they said, 666 00:43:52,595 --> 00:43:55,435 Speaker 1: oh hell, we have to do it, because it's going 667 00:43:55,475 --> 00:44:02,395 Speaker 1: to be Brokaw. No insufferable person in all of broadcasting 668 00:44:02,475 --> 00:44:05,235 Speaker 1: history has a better rep and a better and more 669 00:44:05,555 --> 00:44:11,155 Speaker 1: undeserved rep than Tom Brokeall So, when a Trump leans 670 00:44:11,195 --> 00:44:15,075 Speaker 1: on NBC management because the coverage that he got was 671 00:44:15,075 --> 00:44:17,395 Speaker 1: not the coverage he wanted, don't think it won't have 672 00:44:17,595 --> 00:44:21,395 Speaker 1: an effect. Because in two thousand and eight, they loved 673 00:44:21,435 --> 00:44:25,115 Speaker 1: me then as they love Meadow now. But what they 674 00:44:25,195 --> 00:44:28,995 Speaker 1: loved about each of us was not the truth we provided, 675 00:44:29,195 --> 00:44:34,555 Speaker 1: but the money. There is a second punchline after all this, 676 00:44:34,715 --> 00:44:37,755 Speaker 1: when the new format came out. MSNBC had David Gregory 677 00:44:37,835 --> 00:44:41,715 Speaker 1: quote anchor unquote the debate coverage. Practically, all this meant 678 00:44:41,875 --> 00:44:44,595 Speaker 1: was that I was on the air until ninety seconds 679 00:44:44,635 --> 00:44:46,875 Speaker 1: before the debates began, which is when I said, now 680 00:44:46,875 --> 00:44:49,755 Speaker 1: here's David Gregory. And he was on the air for 681 00:44:49,795 --> 00:44:52,475 Speaker 1: four or five minutes after the debate ended, which is 682 00:44:52,515 --> 00:44:55,875 Speaker 1: when he would then say, now here's Keith Ollerin. And 683 00:44:55,955 --> 00:44:59,755 Speaker 1: on Election Night, with David officially the anchor of MSNBC's coverage, 684 00:44:59,795 --> 00:45:02,315 Speaker 1: at ten fifty nine pm, he said, and bless him 685 00:45:02,315 --> 00:45:06,155 Speaker 1: for this. With the last voting bo closing at eleven PM, 686 00:45:06,355 --> 00:45:09,235 Speaker 1: NBC News can now project the winner of the two 687 00:45:09,275 --> 00:45:16,595 Speaker 1: thousand and eight presidential election, Keith plus that twenty two 688 00:45:16,595 --> 00:45:32,995 Speaker 1: million dollars. I still have it. I've done all the 689 00:45:33,035 --> 00:45:35,395 Speaker 1: damage I can do here. Thank you for listening. Countdown. 690 00:45:35,475 --> 00:45:38,715 Speaker 1: Musical directors Brian Ray and John Phillip Chanel arranged, produced, 691 00:45:38,755 --> 00:45:42,075 Speaker 1: and performed most of our music. Mister Ray was on guitars, 692 00:45:42,115 --> 00:45:45,555 Speaker 1: bass and drums. Mister Shanelle handled orchestration and keyboards. Was 693 00:45:45,555 --> 00:45:48,715 Speaker 1: produced by Tko Brothers. Other music, including some of the 694 00:45:48,755 --> 00:45:52,875 Speaker 1: Beethoven compositions, arranged and performed by No Horns Aloud. The 695 00:45:52,875 --> 00:45:56,115 Speaker 1: sports music is the Oberman theme from ESPN two, written 696 00:45:56,115 --> 00:45:59,995 Speaker 1: by Mitch Warren Davis courtesy of ESPN Inc. Our satirical 697 00:45:59,995 --> 00:46:02,635 Speaker 1: and fifthy musical comments are by Nancy Fauss. The best 698 00:46:02,675 --> 00:46:06,475 Speaker 1: baseball stadium organist ever announcer today was my friend John Dean, 699 00:46:06,955 --> 00:46:09,435 Speaker 1: and everything else was pretty much my fault. So that's 700 00:46:09,475 --> 00:46:11,475 Speaker 1: countdown for this the two hundred and ninety fifth day 701 00:46:11,515 --> 00:46:15,555 Speaker 1: until the twenty twenty four US presidential election. See how 702 00:46:15,555 --> 00:46:19,195 Speaker 1: the Republicans blackmail NBC between now and then and the 703 00:46:19,315 --> 00:46:23,195 Speaker 1: one and eighth day since dementia J. Trump's first attempted 704 00:46:23,195 --> 00:46:25,875 Speaker 1: coup against the democratically elected government of the United States. 705 00:46:26,435 --> 00:46:29,035 Speaker 1: Use the Fourteenth Amendment, the Insurrection Act, and the justice 706 00:46:29,075 --> 00:46:32,795 Speaker 1: system to stop him from doing it again while we 707 00:46:32,875 --> 00:46:37,595 Speaker 1: still can. The next scheduled countdown is tomorrow. Boltins as 708 00:46:37,595 --> 00:46:40,155 Speaker 1: the news warrants till then. I'm Keith Olberman. Good morning, 709 00:46:40,195 --> 00:46:58,475 Speaker 1: good afternoon, goodnight, and good luck. Countdown with Keith Olderman 710 00:46:58,635 --> 00:47:03,115 Speaker 1: is a production of iHeartRadio. 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