WEBVTT - Mercy with Anthony Hamilton and activist Aaminah Turabi

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<v Speaker 1>So this is our show today is about Mercy. Mercy

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<v Speaker 1>number one, Mercy about to be number one so in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, Anthony Hamilton's Mercy. I'm really excited about being

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<v Speaker 1>on Anthony Hamilton's album. You know, there's some people that

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<v Speaker 1>you like, some people that you love, and some people

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<v Speaker 1>that you love. If you really just you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about. Tamika Mallory is featured on Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton's upcoming single Mercies. Yes, and I've been holding this

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<v Speaker 1>one for a long time. And let me just go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and tell everyone that you did se of the

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<v Speaker 1>writing line. It wasn't ghosting because ghost writing is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to me and you don't tell anybody, and you seem

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<v Speaker 1>to just be and everybody, So it really wasn't goes

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<v Speaker 1>at all. It was very very clear. No shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to you for the way you delivered that, like when

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<v Speaker 1>you hear how she delivered it. They they're loving it.

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<v Speaker 1>The people are loving it. So I'm happy about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But my thought of the day, because you know, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be thinking, because that's what I do. I think all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. And I heard that um Joe Biden and

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris, the President and Vice president elect, met with

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<v Speaker 1>a number of civil rights organizations that I uh love

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<v Speaker 1>and and and believe in and support they have. They

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<v Speaker 1>called themselves legacy organizations, and in fact, I worked for

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<v Speaker 1>one for fourteen years. They met with the president electing

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<v Speaker 1>and the vice president and in conversation it's been leaked.

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<v Speaker 1>Now who leaked it. I don't know quote unquote leaked.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been leaked. I know the individuals from the civil

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<v Speaker 1>rights side who were in the meeting, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>they're not the types of type of individuals to just

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<v Speaker 1>go out leaking information because they're serious about what they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get done. UM. And they went in and

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<v Speaker 1>they talked about police reform and other issues. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that UM, listening to the tape that President

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson of the inn double a CP, that some of

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<v Speaker 1>his points were really really strong. But the leaked tapes

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<v Speaker 1>show or allow us to hear that. Joe Biden kept saying,

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<v Speaker 1>don't try to go after us and put too much

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on us around police reform, UM, and even on

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<v Speaker 1>gun control, we have to be careful. And he gave

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<v Speaker 1>some some reasons. I'm not gonna say they're real good reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>but reasons for why on gun control you can't make

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<v Speaker 1>certain moves. However, on the issue of police reform, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're being pummeled on the issue of on

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<v Speaker 1>the title defund police, which you know I think is trash,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, we'll we'll go back to that later.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, the fight around police reform, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing for us to talk about right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to hold on that. We're definitely gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>some things. We're not gonna defund anyone. We're just going

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<v Speaker 1>to um hold people accountable. And he goes into a

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing, but he continuously says, this is not the

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<v Speaker 1>time to have a big fight around police reform. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>hold on that because we need to win the Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>seats for the Senate seats in the runoff. And he says,

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<v Speaker 1>and these people are hitting us hard on on defunding,

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<v Speaker 1>and they they're saying we're the party that wants to

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<v Speaker 1>defund police. Um. So he wants people to turn down

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<v Speaker 1>in essence. So my thought of the day, what I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking about is why do people running for office?

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<v Speaker 1>And in this case, I have to say, the Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>want us to turn up during election season and then

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<v Speaker 1>turned down when it comes to actually holding them accountable

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<v Speaker 1>for the things that we asked for. I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand can because it's clearly simple, right the Republicans have

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<v Speaker 1>a party with a clear definition of who they are, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Democratic Party is comprised of everybody else. So

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<v Speaker 1>what it does is means that you need a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of these people, you need a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>those people. There's no clear agenda within the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why they don't adhere or focus on one base,

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<v Speaker 1>even though constantly it seems that the black people are

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<v Speaker 1>the ones who are bailing them out. But they understand

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<v Speaker 1>that when they get into office that they have to

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<v Speaker 1>appeal to somebody else another. They understand, or they think,

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<v Speaker 1>or they believe, they believe, But the thing is they

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<v Speaker 1>have research to actually show this. You know why, because

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<v Speaker 1>we have taken our eyes off the ball so many times. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So what happens is we go to the polls hard,

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<v Speaker 1>boom bone, we vote you in, and then what happens

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<v Speaker 1>is they say, you know, if you look at runoff election,

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<v Speaker 1>they said, the numbers show that mostly white people go

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<v Speaker 1>to the run off election. So we're completely like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we got the president, we did our job. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep, we and doing. We got the people we want.

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<v Speaker 1>We're good. They understand, and when they get into office,

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<v Speaker 1>what they need to do is appeal to people that

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna follow all the way through. So what we

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<v Speaker 1>have to understand is the Democratic Party Northern Republican Party

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<v Speaker 1>have our best interests in at hand. So what they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do is try to figure out how to appease

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<v Speaker 1>you and give you a little bit of So none

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<v Speaker 1>of That's why I said, I've never voted for an ally.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm voted for a better opponent. So what he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>is saying, look, I want to be able to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>but historically it shows that in order for me able

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<v Speaker 1>to do anything, I have to appeal to these people.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why they wanted Joe Biden because he's a moderate liberal.

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<v Speaker 1>He's one of those people who can appeal to the

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<v Speaker 1>conservatives and appeal to the Democratic Party, so to the

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<v Speaker 1>no to the conservatives and the and the left, the left.

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<v Speaker 1>So we understand this is what his strategy is. He's

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<v Speaker 1>clear about his strategy. We were clear when when the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party got him in. They were clear what it

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna take for him to be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But but but see, but that's my problem because then

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<v Speaker 1>what they believe the actual research shows something different. Number One,

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<v Speaker 1>when you think about people like Alexandria Acacia right, and

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<v Speaker 1>she accassio and she has said it many times. She

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<v Speaker 1>also believes in and carries the slogan defund police to

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<v Speaker 1>the chess. Right. She's saying, we unseated people who are

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<v Speaker 1>moderate Democrats, right or or moderate liberals whatever you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because Kevin Kelly Loffler says they are what are they radicals? Whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>Um you know? And so she she says, we unseated

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<v Speaker 1>a number of establishment Dems, people who you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>follow that rule that you were talking about, and we

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<v Speaker 1>put people who are progressive, super duper progressive in office.

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<v Speaker 1>Corey Bush is an example of that, someone who won

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<v Speaker 1>on the platform of changing police, defunding police. She won

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<v Speaker 1>her election um with that with using that same rhetoric

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<v Speaker 1>in tone right, So no, I'm I'm saying, though, the

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<v Speaker 1>research actually shows that because of the movement that hels

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<v Speaker 1>the defund police, Uh, slow in right, and forget the

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<v Speaker 1>damn slogan, because that's the ship that pisces me off.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not about a slogan, it's about the actual plan.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a plan. It is a plan. And because of

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<v Speaker 1>people like you and me who say defunding the police

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<v Speaker 1>and mean it. We were the ones that went out

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<v Speaker 1>and got young voters to go with Joe Biden and others.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't do that under our organizational efforts, but when

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<v Speaker 1>we did our personal work, we went out and we

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<v Speaker 1>were able to to to move people to vote. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, because people were like, and I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>at my house, okay, But we got them to the

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<v Speaker 1>polls and in many cases, um, we were able to

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<v Speaker 1>get people to say, you know what, I'm actually going

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<v Speaker 1>to go out and vote for Joe Biden because I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that's the best choice at this time. We're

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<v Speaker 1>folks talking about defunding the police. Twenty percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>electorate in Georgia, of the electorate in Georgia that hel

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<v Speaker 1>to flip the state from red to blue, were younger

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<v Speaker 1>people who absolutely support the defunct police movement. So it

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<v Speaker 1>is a lie. Not it's not even just wrong. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can say something's wrong. Some things are. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a mistake, it's a lie say that. The real

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<v Speaker 1>the truth of the matter is that folk are afraid

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<v Speaker 1>to go up against the police unions, and many of

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<v Speaker 1>them do not want to shake up the system. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I have heard that Joe Biden is saying, rather than

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<v Speaker 1>taking money away from police, he wants to pour more

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of millions. I think I heard something like three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million dollars into police and talking about training. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't need no more damn training. What we need is

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to model exactly that takes money from

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<v Speaker 1>one place and and really uh and and and reallocates resources.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I said a million times, you could call

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<v Speaker 1>it pen the tail on the donkey. Just do it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the bottom line. And you know, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why it's so difficult is because he doesn't share

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<v Speaker 1>the same values, and that's why he is a moderate.

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<v Speaker 1>I only want to figure out what these titles. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're right exactly, and I don't know this because

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<v Speaker 1>he does not share the same values that we shared.

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<v Speaker 1>And they know he's right in the middle on the

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<v Speaker 1>cusp of everything. So he's not gonna be all the

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<v Speaker 1>way with us, just like he's not all with them.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got what we got and we're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep righting. So what are the streets talking about? Are

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the vaccine? The vaccine that I'm not gonna take.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen on my page while ago um artists that

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<v Speaker 1>I love, Lupe Fiasco, he wrote and Crazy Together. I

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<v Speaker 1>said that he's so glad that they approved the fights

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<v Speaker 1>of vaccine and that you can't even come to his

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<v Speaker 1>show unless you take the vaccine. M hm, yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>I won't be gone. It's not that. And I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe he said it at first, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I got some wouldn't research and people d M he

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<v Speaker 1>said it. You know a lot of people have conversations

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<v Speaker 1>with him and and and this is just you know

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<v Speaker 1>what it's like for me. It's like when you start

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<v Speaker 1>really doing research right on vaccines, you realize that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a percentage of people who die from vaccines. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a who have allergic reactions. Their bodies don't agree

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<v Speaker 1>with it, you know. So my thing is, if the

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<v Speaker 1>vaccine it's worth worse than the actual sickness, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I'm gonna take my chance for the signess. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna build up my immune system problem, some seed oils, exercise,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm gonna do the things necessary to be healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Like why is nobody I hear about this vaccine? The

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<v Speaker 1>vaccine to be here in the world, I have not

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<v Speaker 1>seen any major platform, any major social media media anything

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<v Speaker 1>focusing on how do we make ourselves healthy enough to

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<v Speaker 1>build up our immune systems to make sure that we're

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<v Speaker 1>strong enough too. But they definitely don't want you to

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<v Speaker 1>do that when they're shoving burgers down your throat and

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<v Speaker 1>all types of bad foods for your body, and kids

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<v Speaker 1>can't get sleep, and they you know, they promote cereal

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<v Speaker 1>all day and all of these things that are actually

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<v Speaker 1>trashed for your body, the stuff I love to eat.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I agree with you the vitamin piece

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<v Speaker 1>is important, but I also think it's it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>necessary for us to be responsible in the ways in

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<v Speaker 1>which we approach these things. Yes, you and me, we

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<v Speaker 1>probably don't need it, right and okay, so I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying I don't. I don't think we need it. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that I'm not going to run to take anybody vaccine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna do that. Um. And that's and this

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<v Speaker 1>is something that my family specifically has been saying even before.

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<v Speaker 1>So prior to coronavirus or to COVID nineteen, my family

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<v Speaker 1>was not into taking vaccines and flu shots and all

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<v Speaker 1>of that. We've never ever done that and we were okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we are, we are right. But there are elderly people

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<v Speaker 1>who are locked in their homes who cannot go outside

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<v Speaker 1>and taking you know, uh, what do you call it

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<v Speaker 1>sea moss and all of that stuff. It may or

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<v Speaker 1>may not be good for them in reaction to their

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<v Speaker 1>medication and other things. We don't know. But whatine, but well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it has a little bit of the disease,

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<v Speaker 1>right or the virus. I think I don't know all

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<v Speaker 1>of the things. And we should definitely get somebody to

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<v Speaker 1>come on and talk to us and help us understand

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<v Speaker 1>this vaccine. So a two hour crew, we definitely need

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<v Speaker 1>to do a show when we break down what's in

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<v Speaker 1>this vaccine because our people want to know more. A

0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of people have questions. Remember the driver the other

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<v Speaker 1>day said to us, I want to know the ingredients, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I think that's important. But I'm but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going back to an important point. There are elderly people.

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<v Speaker 1>There are people who have pre existing conditions who are

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<v Speaker 1>locked in their homes. They can't go out. They're scared

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<v Speaker 1>to death that if they get sick they can die.

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<v Speaker 1>We know three hundred thousand people, whether or not they

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<v Speaker 1>died because it was COVID specifically, I can't say, but

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<v Speaker 1>the complications and or the incompetence of our health care

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<v Speaker 1>system killed three hundred thousand people during this at this

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<v Speaker 1>time period, with where COVID has become a thing, this

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<v Speaker 1>pandemic is happening. And so what what worries me and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what we do about it, is what

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<v Speaker 1>do people who need it? What do they do? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody can't take the position. Everybody is not strong

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, and and pretty healthy and living well

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<v Speaker 1>and working out and whatnot like you and me and

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<v Speaker 1>I work out, but you do some people actually need

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<v Speaker 1>this vaccine. And with all vaccines, with all vaccines, there

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<v Speaker 1>are a percentage of people who will get sick. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just the way it is. That's with every single one

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<v Speaker 1>of them. And there's gonna be some trial and error,

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<v Speaker 1>but you got to do something. The country can't just

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<v Speaker 1>stay as it is now and we can't lose another

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<v Speaker 1>million people. Well, I just or not that we lost

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<v Speaker 1>a million. I think if we just I just think

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<v Speaker 1>if we look at the percentages or people who can

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<v Speaker 1>die from a vaccine based on the percentage of people

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<v Speaker 1>who have died from the actual sickness, and we look

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<v Speaker 1>at it in comparison. I don't think. I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to hear those numbers, and we could talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it again. On another said, let's focus on those

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<v Speaker 1>people who are directly impacted, who are most likely you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but that, but but that's not that's not exactly. And

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<v Speaker 1>again I want to be careful because I'm not. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know for sure, but I don't believe that that's

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<v Speaker 1>how vaccines work. Vaccines do not work by giving it

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<v Speaker 1>to a small group of people in a population, because

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<v Speaker 1>therefore you can't you have to be able to stop

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<v Speaker 1>or bring down, reduce the entire populations, give a vaccine

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<v Speaker 1>to people who are really not at real because it's

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<v Speaker 1>not about one of us, it's about all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's each one, it's each one protect the other. But anyway, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you got it. Whatever, vaccines, whatever, that's just the end

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Okay, Well listen, our next guest. Next, it's

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who we just I'm so excited to have him. Mercy, mercy, mercy,

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<v Speaker 1>just a little mercy, mercy. We haven't been through so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Another show. Every day I write down show topics, like

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<v Speaker 1>does mercy mean women are supposed to shut up and

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<v Speaker 1>don't say anything. But anyway, so whole another show. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna come back to that. Oh lord, listen before we

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<v Speaker 1>go to the next segment and have our special guests joint,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take a quick break for our sponsors. We

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<v Speaker 1>have none other than the legendary, the infamous, the iconic.

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Hamilton's joining us today, the great Hey, what's up people?

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing? What's happening? King? How are you doing it?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good man, It's good to be on here. What

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<v Speaker 1>you got so good to have you join the street politicians.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is our new show, our new podcast

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<v Speaker 1>on the Black Effect Network, which is Charlemagne's new baby.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he came to us and said, I want

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<v Speaker 1>you all to join my podcast network where we could

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<v Speaker 1>be blackly black black, black, black and black. We're in

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<v Speaker 1>anything black and black, Andy black, black, black, Andy black. Definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how we own it, man, So thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us. Man, Like you know, we've both been big

0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:15.000
<v Speaker 1>fans of yours forever. You know, so when Tamika got

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to work with you, and then she reached

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<v Speaker 1>out for my expertise. You know what I'm saying. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. I gotta get my partner. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>she reached something. You know. She called me like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Hamilton wants me to get on this song. I

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<v Speaker 1>need some words, you know. So I'm like, let me

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<v Speaker 1>just calm down, you know, let me see, let me

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<v Speaker 1>see what I can put together. Supposed to hold you down.

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<v Speaker 1>You did because you added the spice. You added only

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<v Speaker 1>the things that Tamika Mallory can put you know, that energy.

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<v Speaker 1>You added just little pieces of things because I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say certain things that you was gonna say from

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<v Speaker 1>a woman's perspective. But it was magic. Man, when I

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<v Speaker 1>heard when I first heard the beat and I heard

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<v Speaker 1>the way you had attacked it, it was like, now

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<v Speaker 1>this song right here is gonna do something special special.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Thank you for you know, allowing her to

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<v Speaker 1>allow me to be a part of something that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be part of his Thank you for thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>being a co writer my sid and and and and

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<v Speaker 1>putting that thing, you know, putting it where it needed

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<v Speaker 1>to be, and allowing her to to to have whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it needed to set the song up. Man, it's incredible

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<v Speaker 1>piece that is about mercy. Tell us about it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>mercy is a song um and and it's it's the

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<v Speaker 1>voice of a man um. It stands vulnerable and and

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<v Speaker 1>and in his walk and in in his struggles and

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<v Speaker 1>not not not weak at all, not a weak man

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<v Speaker 1>at all, but a man who's who's not afraid to

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<v Speaker 1>be vulnerable. And Um, I think a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>man I looked at as seamen still and that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel anything other than then then that UM preach.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, we we we cried, we we we worried,

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<v Speaker 1>we love um, we get afraid. And so it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>speaking from that from that perspective as as a man um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, allowing people to see like, hey, you may

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<v Speaker 1>judge me, you may not understand why I haven't written

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<v Speaker 1>to the occasion that you UM see fit for me,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're they're bumps and bruises along the way. Have

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<v Speaker 1>a little mercy for me and uh, just know that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing my best, and you know, just love on

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<v Speaker 1>me and don't ridicule me. I think the whole world

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<v Speaker 1>takes a stab at the black man um and have

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<v Speaker 1>for for for years and years. Amen. Yeah, we we

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<v Speaker 1>do get a lot of the brunt of the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the the stabbings, and and sometimes I call us out,

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<v Speaker 1>like we have to call ourselves out when we don't

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, When we don't live up

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<v Speaker 1>to potential, don't do things that we're supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But we also need a little bit of mercy at times. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>because we were carrying a heavy load. Man, So this

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<v Speaker 1>is all right here, spoke spoke to me on a

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<v Speaker 1>different level man, for real. Yeah, I mean I think that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as the mother of a young black boy,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not a boy anymore. Actually, he's a grown man.

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<v Speaker 1>He's twenty one, he'll be twenty two years old soon.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I have my black father and uncles who

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<v Speaker 1>are very much so in my life. And uh, two

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<v Speaker 1>of the co founders of our organization until Freedom being

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<v Speaker 1>my son and Attorney Angelo Pinto are all are black men.

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<v Speaker 1>In my entire life, I've worked for and with black men,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I have a special place in my heart

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<v Speaker 1>for my brothers because I see the pain, I see

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<v Speaker 1>the trauma, and I also see the intentional as far

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm concerned, misrepresentation of who you are really are,

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<v Speaker 1>and so and asked to UM, put my beautiful voice

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, my my excellence. UM. You know, on

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<v Speaker 1>this song, I wanted to say something that speaks to

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<v Speaker 1>especially this idea that we're not enemies. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not enemies, that the black woman and the black man

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<v Speaker 1>can't be enemies. And just because we challenge one another

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<v Speaker 1>does not mean that we hate one another, and that

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<v Speaker 1>there's no room for us to grow and be together.

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<v Speaker 1>I think actually the family cannot be strong without us

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<v Speaker 1>being together. Yeah. Yeah, because that's a disconnection. And when

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<v Speaker 1>there's a disconnect, you're subject to any attack and to

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<v Speaker 1>be weakened. UM. In that in that type of environment. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of times they try to portray that we're enemies,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think a lot of people bite bight debate

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<v Speaker 1>and it's created in some black women just super independence

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<v Speaker 1>that they may not need a man, may not need

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<v Speaker 1>a black man, uh, and that that's not true. I

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<v Speaker 1>think every every woman needs a man who could feel

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<v Speaker 1>her soul and feel who she is and what she represents,

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to to express to her his appreciation

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<v Speaker 1>for for UM, I don't think someone outside about race

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<v Speaker 1>could really truly do that. I mean, you can love someone,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think when we love together, we love each

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<v Speaker 1>other together, there's a whole different vibration and I think

0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:24.840
<v Speaker 1>that's a whole different power in that. And some people

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to see that connection because they know how

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<v Speaker 1>powerful it is. That's right, It's definitely. It's definitely an

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<v Speaker 1>attack on the connection and a real um intentional, very

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:40.359
<v Speaker 1>intentional thing to divide us, you know. So so this

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<v Speaker 1>this song really played a big p to I see

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<v Speaker 1>you be doing these conversations about the black men's perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so what is what is that about? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we just had a panel speaking on things from the

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<v Speaker 1>black man's perspective, Jamaine dupri Ed, Gordon Cary Sellers, and

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Williem Moore Jr. Myself. We got together and spoke on

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<v Speaker 1>how how things affect black men in this climate and

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<v Speaker 1>how moving forward, you know, we should intentionally UM strategize

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<v Speaker 1>how to to keep the black man in a in

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<v Speaker 1>a in a safe environment UM not only just physically,

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<v Speaker 1>but mentally and financially, and just how how we can

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<v Speaker 1>grow ourselves as men and come together. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's something that's needed um and hopefully we'll

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<v Speaker 1>keep continuing to do that. Well, please let me be

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 1>involved with the next one, man, because I have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of inputs. Yeah, I got some stuff to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, Because listen, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you you've you've made yourself a staple when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to being that musical voice when it talks about the

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:02.199
<v Speaker 1>struggles of black people, and when this talks about that soul,

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:05.399
<v Speaker 1>that the black man soul. Like every time there's a

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 1>song that embodies what our struggles are, what the soul

0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:12.720
<v Speaker 1>of a black man is, you you immediately think about

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Hamilton. You know, you you've made yourself a staple

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 1>in the iconic position. You know, every time I hear

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>you on one of those songs, or every time I

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 1>hear songs, sometimes I'd be like, Dad, the only thing

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:28.800
<v Speaker 1>was missing was Anthony Hamilton on this trip. Sometimes sometimes

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you do you gotta do it. Sometimes you know,

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 1>you just have to. It's that, it's that down home man,

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:42.359
<v Speaker 1>it's been it's been invested in me from before the

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 1>womb man, just that church and that down home southern upbringing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I saw a man who really worked with their

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<v Speaker 1>hands and really made things happen. And uh, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>women who were there to to nurture that man and

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<v Speaker 1>all that. You know, play the parton in the texture

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<v Speaker 1>of my voice, in my spirit and being a Southern

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Southern Baptist, Um, you know, it gave me even more texture, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and didnt seeing the world and seeing how how things

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>really work, getting outside of the house and seeing how

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 1>things work around the world. You know, you're creating in

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 1>you a new man, um. And Uh, I'm just excited

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:25.159
<v Speaker 1>to be doing what I'm doing and being a voice

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 1>that could be heard in this light. So so this

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:31.639
<v Speaker 1>is a part of your new album. Mercy is a

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 1>song on your new album that you're probably done with

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>but you'll say you're still working on that will be

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 1>released soon, you know, before you talk about the album.

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Just the other day, when I received my advanced copy

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>of my beautiful, amazing sound on your song Mercy, um,

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:56.400
<v Speaker 1>and I played it at our home in Georgia where

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 1>we're knocking on doors and getting out the votes for

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 1>the George just sent it raise the runoff and that's right,

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:09.439
<v Speaker 1>vote vote, vote, vote vote, you know what it is.

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:13.679
<v Speaker 1>And you know, after the song went off, we said, Alexa,

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 1>play some Anthony Hamilton's and you went on and on

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:24.159
<v Speaker 1>and on for hours without a repeat song. Um, because

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 1>of all of the tracks that you have. How many

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 1>albums do you have at this point? I know you

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>have Grammys. I mean you like the man, So tell

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>us how much of the man you are? Why talk

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 1>about the album? Man, I ain't hitting on nothing. You know,

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>ten albums and working on another one amazing Christmas album

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>called Home for the Holidays. Um, yeah, ten ten albums

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 1>and and and still have music that's laying around that

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 1>has you know, hadn't been quick and I didn't even

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 1>count because the features that you you you probably got

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 1>about ten albums were the features. Man, I've been on

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 1>at least over forty forty or sold rap records, man,

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 1>going back to Helter Skelter, coming all the way back

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 1>to Rick Ross and you know, and I get called

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>from Drake and people like that who want to be

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 1>a part of that. So, you know, just just being

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>able to um, to be appreciated for who I am

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>and what I'm supposed to represent me and you're on album.

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 1>You know. I was like, I saw this kid online,

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 1>you know how I g have it on the explore

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>pay I was like, who is this cat? Was going

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 1>to get it. You didn't even take a breath. About

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes was spitting fire. That's why we're gonna now.

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Once I get to Anthony Hamilton's on the chorus, we

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 1>out of here, baby, I got one. It's called loaded

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>and cocked back here. That's right. And you know when

0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I see my son in the studio, and then you know,

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 1>we were in this studio with you, and I got

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>to see your work ethic and how you can actually

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>help somebody like me who's not an artist at all.

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm a total novelist, but you were able to help

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>me be comfortable to get into it. So I'm sure

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of other artists who have benefited from

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 1>your expertise and just you know what you know, because

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 1>you really do have something special. You know. I've been

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>at it a long time. I got my first record

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 1>deal in ninety three. I signed the Uptown n c

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>A with Andre Horrell, Jimmy Jenkins, um Uh, Tim Dogg,

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Puff Daddy and all those guys, and uh yeah, man,

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 1>he was one of the mentors I've known for a

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>long time, and the Russell Simmons. So I learned a

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>lot um from from amazing being around amazing people. It's

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 1>just about making people feel comfortable. I think when you're

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 1>at your most comfortable place, you're you know, you're more

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're more comfortable to let more of who

0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 1>you are be shown. Yeah, I think that hinders when

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 1>you don't have that, it hinders you your ability to

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>sing um in a in a place that that's not

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 1>hindered by fear or you know, ridicule. And you know,

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 1>my job is to make you feel comfortable being your

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>best you. And uh, if there's something you need, then

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm there. But if it's something you already have, then

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make you aware that you have it. That

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 1>dope man. And when you talk about your history, I

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 1>was having a conversation with I'll be sure and he

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 1>was telling me how you worked with him, and I

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 1>was like, wow, I'm like any been around a long time.

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you know, A little water, a little wine,

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 1>a little your skin, North Carolina son. You know. I

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>try to eat good man, It's so important what I

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>put in my body and try to keep a good

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>balance and a little smile a lot. I like to

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I like to make people happy. Um, you know, my

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:06.239
<v Speaker 1>kids are very important. My six sons. You know, they

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:10.479
<v Speaker 1>keep me, keep me feeling youthful and alive, and you know,

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 1>just being an example for them. I don't want to

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 1>be just dead beat, miserable spirit man who they know

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 1>to be their father. I want to be something exciting

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 1>to speak about and for them to have a great

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:27.959
<v Speaker 1>experience with the father really cares and it matters the

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>energy that I that I carry around. So I have

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:34.959
<v Speaker 1>to ask him because you always asking everybody are they married?

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 1>So I need to know are you married, Anthony? No.

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I was married for ten years to an amazing woman.

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 1>We had my younger three boys, my twins or a

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 1>ten and my eight year old. And uh, yeah that's

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 1>a good woman. Yes, she was a great woman man,

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>and uh I learned a lot. Um. You know, I'll

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>get married again. Okay, so you're looking. I'm not afraid

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 1>of love. Yeah I'm not. Yeah, I'm pretty. I'm pretty open.

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not afraid of love. Um, but I'll be a

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>better husband the next time. I think. Uh, maybe I

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 1>just wasn't quite ready, deep deep inside, but I wanted to.

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do what was decent and what was

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 1>what I felt like was the respectful thing and make

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>a make an honest woman. Um but now I've learned,

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>you know so, so now you're ready. So now everybody

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 1>run and all the way really really readly ready to

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>get married. You're ready to start start to get married

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 1>yet but on your way? Yeah? Yeah, if it happened,

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 1>if it's something that that I can't deny, like okay,

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>this feels different, then I'm not afraid of it. I

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>just want everyone. I just don't have enough. Ye don't.

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Hambleton's d m s are open, so don't come in there.

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Don't slide in with no mess. Man, they're coming then

0:33:57.360 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 1>you know they come with some mess. Anthony, Yeah, I

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>have a Yeah, I ain't want to build the bears

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>and now I don't care what you look like, what

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:09.280
<v Speaker 1>your body looked like. I ain't building no more baths,

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 1>but no outfits or not. Can't do it for yourself,

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I ain't doing it. You should want me to do

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 1>it for you. If you can't do it for yourself,

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 1>don't ask me to do so. You're telling me you're

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 1>not looking for the booty picture where they turned the

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 1>booty towards them. I mean, it's nice to look at

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:26.839
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram right now and again moving You know, even

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 1>if they bought it, it's cool job have a job

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 1>with it should be a resumet exactly. You know, you

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>wanted to what you wanted to. You know, I tell

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 1>people all the time, being in this industry and around

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:45.839
<v Speaker 1>this industry for so many years, a lot of these

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>artists are not the person that they put on the music.

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:52.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, you meet that you hear the music and

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:55.279
<v Speaker 1>you'd be like, you'd be disappointing when you actually meet

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the person. And to my I wasn't. I wasn't shocked.

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.839
<v Speaker 1>But when met you, you you was exactly the person that

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I figured. But listen to your music. Man, you you're

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:09.280
<v Speaker 1>a good, humble person. You have a good time, you laugh.

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:12.320
<v Speaker 1>You actually a comedian. I didn't even know you made.

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, you probably get a real comedian,

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you know. So the energy that you give off is

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the same exact energy that's in your music. So I

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>just want to say I appreciate that. Man. You may

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 1>like feel so comfortable in your hometown and you know

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>in the in the studio, like she said, how you

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 1>just embraced her and made her feel comfortable and you

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 1>just because I yelled at by this one over here

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:40.439
<v Speaker 1>telling me you could do better. You see, I gotta

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>give her a different brother since and you gotta be

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 1>a little because I know what she do. She'll get

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 1>around and she was like, I can't do this, and

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:49.320
<v Speaker 1>she always want to. She is one of the most

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:52.799
<v Speaker 1>I can't do it, but can do everything in the world. Person. Yea,

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I saw that. I saw that too. I was like, uh,

0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:01.279
<v Speaker 1>yes you can. Yeah. I'm is like I'm gonna go home.

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 1>But I couldn't but tell us about the album. The album,

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I have some features on this. When I

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:09.839
<v Speaker 1>just did a song with with John Legend, I Love

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:14.320
<v Speaker 1>You featuring John Legend, actually written by John and produced

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:16.719
<v Speaker 1>by him. Um, I reached out to him. I wanted to.

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I felt like my fans and his fans would could

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>could really enjoy that kind of collaboration. I have one

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Rick Ross um Man Keisha Cole on the same song

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:32.319
<v Speaker 1>those two. It's a throwback to Mary's like a four

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 1>World one type of vibe D smoke. Um you know, yeah,

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, Todd, Todd Dollar, um who else? This album

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:45.920
<v Speaker 1>is a it's one that it's a it's a journey

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:49.319
<v Speaker 1>man it's a journey for for us now. Um, you know,

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>it takes takes you through the pain of what we

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 1>just went through and the uncomfortable face we were just

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 1>uh placed in. But but it allows you to travel

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>through that and see that things are gonna be okay.

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:09.240
<v Speaker 1>And it's knocking too. It beats are knocking, songs are strong,

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>and the music is very powerful. Um, but you're proud

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 1>of it. You're like, this is one of those and

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:20.719
<v Speaker 1>it's like a more matoy. Anthony Hamilton's right. You know,

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:24.400
<v Speaker 1>as we grow. I find myself sometimes when I speak

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:27.719
<v Speaker 1>now or when I participate in certain program and I

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 1>can see the growth and you know, it was good

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:33.720
<v Speaker 1>five years ago, but it's great now and we still

0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 1>have so much more to come. The thing got a

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 1>marination on it. Yeah. Yeah, you consistent man. That's one

0:37:43.040 --> 0:37:45.919
<v Speaker 1>thing we could say throughout your career. There's a level

0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 1>of excellence in a in a level of consistency that

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 1>that gives you the iconic status. I ain't just saying

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:54.959
<v Speaker 1>it because we're cool and I met you that you're

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:57.879
<v Speaker 1>definitely an icon and a legend this game. So we're

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:03.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna make sure you get these roses right now. Continue

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.839
<v Speaker 1>with that greatness, man, Continue album our album that we do.

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:10.920
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be even greater than everything, man, because the greatest,

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 1>because the greatest MC ever ever, ever is gonna be

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 1>on it when you put this thing we got together, man.

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Scribe you know it's gonna be. It's gonna be sub

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:27.399
<v Speaker 1>scrub on your on your way out, on your way out.

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I know that the Black Lives Matter movement is really

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 1>important to you. I remember, you know, but that prior

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:37.839
<v Speaker 1>to a viral speech and all of that that I've had,

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 1>you were following me already on social media because you would,

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe write a comment every now and then

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:47.279
<v Speaker 1>or like a picture, and I was always just like,

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I cannot believe Anthony Hamilton is one

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 1>of my followers. And that's when I had like two

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand now over a million people are there. But

0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I remember too, I remember every one of two hundred

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:04.240
<v Speaker 1>thousand people that was with you know, before, before before

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the viral speeches and all of that. And I know

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you were there because you were looking for content about

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, what's happening in the movement. So let's hear

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:15.440
<v Speaker 1>a little bit about how you're feeling in this moment

0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>after we've been able to get a new president elected.

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how we're gonna get him in the

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:23.279
<v Speaker 1>White House, but hopefully he'll get in there. What do

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 1>you want to see happen? You know? I just want

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:33.839
<v Speaker 1>to see people really um acknowledge, people to really acknowledge um,

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:37.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, their pardon and keeping us down and and

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 1>and come into grips with you know, that was the past,

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 1>and it matters still. But how are we going to

0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>go forward and really go forward um in a way

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>that benefits us as as people? And uh the unjust

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:58.439
<v Speaker 1>and the unfair um treatment that we get, how how

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 1>do we prevent that from happening? How do we prevent

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 1>cops from killing us and not making time? How how

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 1>do we get to a place where we're not we

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:09.399
<v Speaker 1>don't just have civil rights, but human rights and things

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:13.360
<v Speaker 1>that really um protect us as people. I want to

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:15.359
<v Speaker 1>see that. I want to see black people being able

0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 1>to you know, to have big corporations, um, to to

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 1>own stuff and have land and to just you know

0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:29.840
<v Speaker 1>be self sufficient um. And and just a brighter America,

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:34.880
<v Speaker 1>a more loving America, a country that really stands for

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:38.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, all the lives they talked, um, I want

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:40.360
<v Speaker 1>to see them. I want to see them, you know,

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 1>step up to the plate and uh and and and

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 1>put things in place in this proper place. Well listen,

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:53.920
<v Speaker 1>you know we could sit here and talk to you

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:56.680
<v Speaker 1>to do so. We want to say thank you. And

0:40:56.719 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of artists always actually what can I do?

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 1>You know? How do I help open the movement? If

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 1>you look at Anthony Hamilton's in the way that he

0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 1>carries himself and the way he utilizes his platform, his music,

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 1>his voice is influence to always engaged, to always find

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:14.880
<v Speaker 1>an intersection. This is how you, This is how you.

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, thank you, and thank you for thank you

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:23.040
<v Speaker 1>all and thank you all for same to you and

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 1>for all you guys are doing and put your life

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:28.319
<v Speaker 1>on the line and everything it matters man, And we

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 1>pray for you guys and cover you and uh, continued

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 1>success and you know we're gonna, We're gonna we got

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:37.399
<v Speaker 1>You'll see you. I'll see you at the Grammy's next year.

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:41.759
<v Speaker 1>From Mercy's Going to to the Top, I'll see you

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 1>from my album. We're working on the baby already, I

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 1>guess already. Red Let's get it, Anthony Hamilton's single he's single,

0:41:55.480 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 1>man alone, ain't nobody can deal with your attitude? Are

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:02.880
<v Speaker 1>you serious that man ain't gonna be to deal with attitude?

0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Are you really seriously saying that to me? I am

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:13.240
<v Speaker 1>your sister and one of the dopest women. You don't know, dope,

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:15.399
<v Speaker 1>But what does that have? What are you talking about?

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:22.440
<v Speaker 1>He's a real man, see a real man, a real woman. Me.

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing that's the problem. Okay, that's the problem

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:32.520
<v Speaker 1>right there, That's what it is. Yeah, right, so that's

0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 1>the issue. Get real, you know, will the real men

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:39.400
<v Speaker 1>please stand out? Well, listen, I'm going to stand up

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 1>a man crazy and I and I have an attitude.

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 1>You basically said in so many words that Anthony Hamilton

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't date me because I was a bit. But that's cool.

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Listen the truth I set you free, you know. And

0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>you said a man stand up, So I stand up.

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 1>But what I don't understand. And I also just don't

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 1>get it, as I always say, you don't get it.

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:11.279
<v Speaker 1>I just don't get it. What would compel someone to

0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 1>be a black Republican? But to me, how do you

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:20.279
<v Speaker 1>be a part of a party? Were you not even

0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:26.359
<v Speaker 1>one persentative representation? Well, sometimes you say, when I start

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 1>thinking about I didn't even one percent at this point,

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 1>because if you're thinking about all of them, just thinking

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:34.839
<v Speaker 1>about it depends on when you say representation. I'm talking

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:39.399
<v Speaker 1>about elected OFFICI that's what the representation, if you representation

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 1>is not the people who vote in the party, is

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 1>the people who represent the party. When you look at

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 1>the faces of the party, we represent black people represented

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 1>about one percent. So how do you as a black man,

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 1>black woman, so you know what, I'm going to vote

0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 1>with the Republican Party because how do you do see that? Listen,

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.920
<v Speaker 1>we just had this conversation on another one of our episodes,

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 1>and we talked about all the time that um representation

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:09.920
<v Speaker 1>doesn't necessarily mean skin color. But okay, even if it

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:14.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean skin color. So if you understand that there's

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:17.600
<v Speaker 1>nobody in a party right that comes from where you

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:20.239
<v Speaker 1>come from. And I've had the same struggle you had,

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 1>have dealt with the same adversity you've had to deal with,

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:28.560
<v Speaker 1>how do you think that they can properly represent you? Well,

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think that, first of all, I don't

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't get it either. Advocate here. No, it's not

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:38.839
<v Speaker 1>that it's not just devil's advocate is also being unable

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:43.879
<v Speaker 1>to understand different perspectives. I know, people like choices. They

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 1>don't like to feel like they're being shuttled into one

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 1>direction where they also don't see how that particular avenue

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 1>is benefiting whatever it is they care about. Right, So,

0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:58.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's so many people who look at the

0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Democrats and say this is trash, and guess what, A

0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of times I feel like the Democratic Party is

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:07.239
<v Speaker 1>trash as well. So I kind of get that some

0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:11.359
<v Speaker 1>people want options. I think sometimes there's a level of

0:45:11.440 --> 0:45:14.280
<v Speaker 1>rebellion that folks are just when they want to shake

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:17.000
<v Speaker 1>it up, they want to do something different. But I

0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:21.239
<v Speaker 1>also think that there is a sense of I don't

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 1>think everybody who votes Republican or who is a part

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 1>of the Republican Party has experienced what we've experienced, because

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:32.799
<v Speaker 1>when I take time to get to know some of

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:35.839
<v Speaker 1>these individuals, and I have a few friends, not as

0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 1>many as I did. Before Donald Trump was elected, I

0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:43.000
<v Speaker 1>had many more Republican friends at that time. Now that

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 1>he has been in office, most of my friends who

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 1>were Republicans have changed parties because they just can't, you know,

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously morally they could not continue to support

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 1>um uh that party. However, those individuals, almost none of them,

0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I would say ninety eight percent of them in a

0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:06.160
<v Speaker 1>half are people who don't have the same stories that

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:08.720
<v Speaker 1>you and I have. They don't come from the hood.

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:12.880
<v Speaker 1>They haven't experienced the projects and walk stepping over the

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:16.959
<v Speaker 1>urine and a drug addiction and um, you know, all

0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 1>all of this, the poverty and trauma that we've experienced.

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:24.040
<v Speaker 1>A lot of them come from money or they you know,

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 1>they come from an affluent neighborhood, an affluent situation, and

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:31.279
<v Speaker 1>therefore they don't see themselves being They don't they don't

0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:33.799
<v Speaker 1>see that there's no representation because the schools that they

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:39.280
<v Speaker 1>went to, everybody, all the teachers, the administration, basically white people,

0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:43.440
<v Speaker 1>right or you know, non black people. Um, their parents,

0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:47.600
<v Speaker 1>friends are people who are not of color, many of

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:51.320
<v Speaker 1>them white. So I think sometimes it's a it's a

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a mindset that we're just going with

0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:58.760
<v Speaker 1>what we always knew. So for me, that's that's troubling

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:02.680
<v Speaker 1>because then means that you're just a person with a

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:05.800
<v Speaker 1>black face. You don't you don't represent black culture, you

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:09.799
<v Speaker 1>don't even represent what it is black culture is the

0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:14.239
<v Speaker 1>reality that most the majority of the black people. So

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 1>when you talk about the majority of what black people

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 1>have to deal with and then you put people who

0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:23.120
<v Speaker 1>represent black people who have never dealt with that reality,

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:27.839
<v Speaker 1>then you don't really represent black people. You're a black person, right,

0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:29.879
<v Speaker 1>and we're not taking the fact that you have. That's

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 1>why we say, oh, skin folk and kin folks, because

0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people who have black skin don't have

0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>a Black experience. So my my problem is, even if

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't have a black experience, if you identify yourself

0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:45.640
<v Speaker 1>with the culture of being black, right, because there's some

0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:48.000
<v Speaker 1>people who don't have a black experience, they are well

0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:50.319
<v Speaker 1>to do. People who come from it, but they they've

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:53.799
<v Speaker 1>done enough research. They you know, they've been engulfed in

0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:57.759
<v Speaker 1>the culture enough to understand what it is to be

0:47:57.800 --> 0:48:00.680
<v Speaker 1>a black person in American Understand when you when I

0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:03.799
<v Speaker 1>vote for the Republicans, right, what I do is vote

0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:07.440
<v Speaker 1>against the interests of the majority of the black culture.

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:09.640
<v Speaker 1>That's just that's just the reality. Don't I don't care

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:12.400
<v Speaker 1>what you said. When you look at the representation in

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:16.560
<v Speaker 1>the Republican Party, will you listen to Kelly Loffler and

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:19.480
<v Speaker 1>you listen to what these people say. It is so

0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 1>far fetched from my reality that I am perplexed. I

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:27.640
<v Speaker 1>am perplexed that any black person who can identify with it,

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's perplexed. So then when I think

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:34.919
<v Speaker 1>about those perplex it's perplexing. So then when you look

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:38.319
<v Speaker 1>at those people who actually run for office, they had

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:41.399
<v Speaker 1>over thirty people run for office in the Republican Party

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:43.879
<v Speaker 1>black people, there's like, oh, you know, we're waking up

0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 1>and we're doing this. We're not gonna just go with

0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:49.400
<v Speaker 1>the Democrats. And they had over thirty people running in

0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:52.239
<v Speaker 1>Congress and different for different positions, and none of them

0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:57.799
<v Speaker 1>got elected. So how none of them? So how do

0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:03.479
<v Speaker 1>you represent and vote for a party with people who

0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:08.000
<v Speaker 1>look like you can't even get voted in? Like how

0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:14.160
<v Speaker 1>does how does that? Because it's interesting because they will

0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:20.319
<v Speaker 1>run for office in the black community using a platform

0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 1>and supporting a party that people know it's not of

0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:29.920
<v Speaker 1>their exactly, they can't go run for it in the

0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:34.080
<v Speaker 1>It's really it is the It is the weirdest state

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:36.239
<v Speaker 1>of mind because I have conversations with the people and

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:39.320
<v Speaker 1>it always stopped me there like yeah, but it's changing.

0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:43.359
<v Speaker 1>But until it changes, what is the mind state that

0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:45.839
<v Speaker 1>you have that things that it represents you. But I think,

0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:48.959
<v Speaker 1>I think the reality of it is that at this

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:53.560
<v Speaker 1>point we need UM a party of our own. We

0:49:53.680 --> 0:49:58.160
<v Speaker 1>at least need some type of political structure that gives

0:49:58.280 --> 0:50:02.960
<v Speaker 1>us the ability to leverage power by them with the masses,

0:50:03.640 --> 0:50:07.560
<v Speaker 1>right because at this point, what we're doing is, you know,

0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:11.360
<v Speaker 1>pretty much we have no choice but to fit in

0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:14.000
<v Speaker 1>these two buckets. And I'll be honest with you and

0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:17.799
<v Speaker 1>say I feel both of them. One is a disaster,

0:50:18.200 --> 0:50:21.759
<v Speaker 1>It's terrible. There's no nothing about the Republican Party that

0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm interested in or attracted to. And the other one

0:50:25.520 --> 0:50:28.719
<v Speaker 1>has failed us over and over and over again, and

0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:31.520
<v Speaker 1>it continues to fail us, even right now, when the

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:35.560
<v Speaker 1>new administration is not even an office yet, and already

0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:37.960
<v Speaker 1>we know there are several things that we're gonna have

0:50:38.040 --> 0:50:40.840
<v Speaker 1>to fight about, right, which we always we always say

0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 1>we always knew that, UM, but just getting ready gearing

0:50:44.520 --> 0:50:48.040
<v Speaker 1>up to fight, because you can already see them leaning

0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:53.800
<v Speaker 1>towards old habit um, old people not old as an age,

0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:57.200
<v Speaker 1>but old like people that came from the Obama administration,

0:50:57.239 --> 0:51:00.440
<v Speaker 1>the Clinton administration, Folks who were not in vested in

0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 1>doing anything that I personally see as radical or overhaul

0:51:05.239 --> 0:51:10.359
<v Speaker 1>shifting of institutions. So, you know, we um I think

0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:12.719
<v Speaker 1>both parties have just failed us. And I see that

0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:15.880
<v Speaker 1>the work that you know, uh Puff or did he

0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:18.880
<v Speaker 1>as some people call him, what he's trying to do

0:51:19.320 --> 0:51:23.520
<v Speaker 1>it is important. Jay Morrison is another individual that has

0:51:23.560 --> 0:51:28.239
<v Speaker 1>been talking about building our own political base so that

0:51:28.480 --> 0:51:32.360
<v Speaker 1>we can again leverage our power in a real way.

0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:34.839
<v Speaker 1>So in the beginning, I've said I've said it to Puff,

0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:37.160
<v Speaker 1>I've said it to other individuals, and I've also of

0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:39.600
<v Speaker 1>course said it to Jay that I don't think we

0:51:39.760 --> 0:51:43.239
<v Speaker 1>can just start off run, you know, come out the

0:51:43.320 --> 0:51:46.640
<v Speaker 1>gate saying we're running our own candidates, because the unity

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:49.879
<v Speaker 1>among our people needs to be worked on as well,

0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and we need to be able to get our allies

0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:55.520
<v Speaker 1>to understand because it's not just black people voting, it's

0:51:55.560 --> 0:51:58.880
<v Speaker 1>black people plus folks who support us voting for you know,

0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:02.160
<v Speaker 1>with us. But I think we are in a place

0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:06.040
<v Speaker 1>where we can at least get organized enough that every candidate,

0:52:06.160 --> 0:52:10.120
<v Speaker 1>anybody who wants to run for anything from school board

0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 1>all the way up, that they have to look at

0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:17.319
<v Speaker 1>our agenda, commit to multiple points on the agenda and

0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:21.160
<v Speaker 1>be held accountable if not. I think that's the direction

0:52:21.200 --> 0:52:23.839
<v Speaker 1>that we have to go in because I can understand

0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:26.600
<v Speaker 1>that there are some black people who have turned to

0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the Republican Party out of a level of just being

0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:34.440
<v Speaker 1>it's just not seeing themselves anywhere. However, once you turn

0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:36.840
<v Speaker 1>and you see what's in front of you, you should

0:52:36.880 --> 0:52:40.080
<v Speaker 1>be quickly able to turn away. Well, I kind of

0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:42.880
<v Speaker 1>don't agree, you know, I feel like we're in a

0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:48.479
<v Speaker 1>stage right Well, the slogan quote unquote black lives matter,

0:52:48.920 --> 0:52:52.120
<v Speaker 1>it's something that everybody can identify with, right, And I

0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:55.280
<v Speaker 1>feel like the same way if you've never been pulled

0:52:55.320 --> 0:52:57.720
<v Speaker 1>over by a police officer and you're a black person

0:52:57.760 --> 0:53:00.640
<v Speaker 1>that lives in Hollywood, you don't see But it doesn't

0:53:00.680 --> 0:53:03.879
<v Speaker 1>matter because those people, even if I can't get you, right,

0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:07.799
<v Speaker 1>you have. What happens is like with music, right when

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:10.000
<v Speaker 1>you get an artist who puts out of hot song

0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:13.200
<v Speaker 1>and people just start following somehow it goes diamond. So

0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:17.239
<v Speaker 1>it's thirty million people don't identify. They never the song

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:19.719
<v Speaker 1>what Jess was talking about. They don't know when Meek

0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Mills is talking about, what Little Baby is talking about.

0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:24.600
<v Speaker 1>They don't have a clue what he's tolding, but he

0:53:24.880 --> 0:53:28.200
<v Speaker 1>sold the music so much everybody wants to try to

0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:30.160
<v Speaker 1>figure out I need to be a part of that. Right,

0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:37.200
<v Speaker 1>That's true, But it's a it is. It is because

0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:40.879
<v Speaker 1>those same people that you identify with, right, those same people,

0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:43.839
<v Speaker 1>because they identified with our struggles, they talking about our struggles,

0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:45.560
<v Speaker 1>and Puffet is one of them. So when you put

0:53:45.640 --> 0:53:48.640
<v Speaker 1>all of those same people who sold diamond and twenty

0:53:48.680 --> 0:53:52.319
<v Speaker 1>and thirty millions in one room with one agenda, and

0:53:52.400 --> 0:53:54.400
<v Speaker 1>we do a tour not for music, but we do

0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:58.239
<v Speaker 1>a tour to galvanize our own voting base, it's gonna

0:53:58.280 --> 0:54:01.360
<v Speaker 1>have people who identify with our in the in identified

0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:05.359
<v Speaker 1>with our coaches. I hear you, But that's I mean,

0:54:05.400 --> 0:54:09.279
<v Speaker 1>I think I think you're off to something different because

0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:10.759
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, we need to get in the

0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:12.880
<v Speaker 1>room and we need to do the work. But I

0:54:12.920 --> 0:54:16.960
<v Speaker 1>will say that you know a lot of people, and

0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I hate to use this word or this term, but

0:54:21.440 --> 0:54:23.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people just be cloud chasing. Like there

0:54:23.800 --> 0:54:28.240
<v Speaker 1>are some people who literally ran to follow Candice Owens

0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:31.120
<v Speaker 1>and all of those folks just because it seemed cool,

0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:34.680
<v Speaker 1>it was something to do. And again that's because I'm

0:54:34.719 --> 0:54:38.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna say again, the Democratic Party has failed us so

0:54:38.320 --> 0:54:43.279
<v Speaker 1>much that people are just able to say, we're gonna know.

0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:46.919
<v Speaker 1>I believe that. I believe people follow Candice because every

0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:49.520
<v Speaker 1>now and then she says one or two things. I'm

0:54:49.560 --> 0:54:52.640
<v Speaker 1>not saying that they completely and I agree. I'm not

0:54:52.680 --> 0:54:55.360
<v Speaker 1>saying that they didn't. You always tell me a broken

0:54:55.360 --> 0:54:58.000
<v Speaker 1>clock is right twice a day, so I'm not I'm

0:54:58.040 --> 0:55:00.680
<v Speaker 1>not saying that that'sn't the reason. I just telling you

0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:04.040
<v Speaker 1>that people like to jump on gravy trains. So when

0:55:04.040 --> 0:55:06.560
<v Speaker 1>they see that there are black folks going to the

0:55:06.600 --> 0:55:09.600
<v Speaker 1>White House and Canda Zwens is saying some stuff, and

0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:12.200
<v Speaker 1>people are you know, she's getting invited to speak all

0:55:12.239 --> 0:55:16.359
<v Speaker 1>over and you don't feel like, oh man, I mean,

0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:20.319
<v Speaker 1>candas Owens has been to every college. So I don't

0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:22.640
<v Speaker 1>have a list of the schools that she speaks at.

0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:24.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't have time to keep up with that. But

0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I also I know for sure because I see online.

0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:30.440
<v Speaker 1>When I first heard of candas Owens, I went and

0:55:30.520 --> 0:55:32.440
<v Speaker 1>just did a quick Google search, and I see the

0:55:32.560 --> 0:55:35.839
<v Speaker 1>universities bring her in all the time to speak. And

0:55:35.880 --> 0:55:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I keep saying to you over and over that some

0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:43.080
<v Speaker 1>of these black people you're talking about, their entire experience

0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:46.560
<v Speaker 1>has been going to white schools, listening to speakers in

0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:50.279
<v Speaker 1>their white institutions, so they do get an opportunity to

0:55:50.480 --> 0:55:53.960
<v Speaker 1>hear her and others like her in those spaces. And

0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:57.480
<v Speaker 1>when you have a party being that the Democratic Party

0:55:57.760 --> 0:56:01.719
<v Speaker 1>that people don't necessarily feel has been properly representing them,

0:56:01.840 --> 0:56:04.600
<v Speaker 1>it's easy for folks to say, you know, people who

0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 1>are not taking life seriously in my in my opinion,

0:56:08.040 --> 0:56:10.239
<v Speaker 1>it's easy for them to go say, Okay, well I'll

0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:12.560
<v Speaker 1>just hop over here because it's cool what's going on

0:56:12.600 --> 0:56:15.600
<v Speaker 1>over here. It's not like we're getting these major benefits

0:56:15.680 --> 0:56:19.080
<v Speaker 1>over here either. So we're leaving holes and we're leaving

0:56:19.120 --> 0:56:21.399
<v Speaker 1>people behind. And I think that it is in our

0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:25.319
<v Speaker 1>and again, the major issue for me, which you and

0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I talk about all the time, it's the one thing

0:56:27.480 --> 0:56:31.120
<v Speaker 1>that we may agree on, is that the Democrats spend

0:56:31.239 --> 0:56:35.520
<v Speaker 1>so much damn time trying to appeal to people who

0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:39.080
<v Speaker 1>are not with them. They don't spend their time trying

0:56:39.120 --> 0:56:43.040
<v Speaker 1>to find an agenda that that that that will address

0:56:43.400 --> 0:56:47.319
<v Speaker 1>the more conservative blacks and the blacks who are more

0:56:47.400 --> 0:56:49.719
<v Speaker 1>liberal and you know, and trying to figure out the

0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:53.600
<v Speaker 1>group of people who have the voting potential to put

0:56:53.640 --> 0:56:55.799
<v Speaker 1>you in or out of office. They spend their time

0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:59.400
<v Speaker 1>trying to go get Susie, who keeps voting against you.

0:56:59.520 --> 0:57:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Everything will tell. That means that you're proving what I'm saying.

0:57:02.880 --> 0:57:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Because if we create our own party, that's exactly what

0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:09.440
<v Speaker 1>we would do. You're gonna approve that's exactly what we do.

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:13.560
<v Speaker 1>You just said, you said because you let me tell

0:57:13.600 --> 0:57:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you why, Because the whole premise of this argument was

0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:18.560
<v Speaker 1>when you told you and you told puff that you

0:57:18.600 --> 0:57:20.520
<v Speaker 1>don't think that we create our own party where we

0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:24.880
<v Speaker 1>need If I said that, let me let me correct myself.

0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:28.240
<v Speaker 1>What I told them is, I don't think that we're

0:57:28.320 --> 0:57:30.880
<v Speaker 1>at the point where we can get our people to

0:57:31.080 --> 0:57:32.640
<v Speaker 1>vote in the ways in which we need them to.

0:57:32.800 --> 0:57:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Yet I think that there are stages, and the first

0:57:35.880 --> 0:57:37.840
<v Speaker 1>stage is being able to get our people in a

0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:41.840
<v Speaker 1>mindset of being in a block where when we do vote,

0:57:42.080 --> 0:57:45.120
<v Speaker 1>we have leverage. But I don't believe that. I believe

0:57:45.160 --> 0:57:49.320
<v Speaker 1>that what we should do is galvanized our own people

0:57:49.760 --> 0:57:53.120
<v Speaker 1>and put our own candidates and then when we then

0:57:53.160 --> 0:57:56.240
<v Speaker 1>when we start withholding our vote. Didn't make sense because

0:57:56.280 --> 0:57:58.160
<v Speaker 1>now when we're saying that we're withholding our vote and

0:57:58.200 --> 0:58:00.400
<v Speaker 1>we're given it, and we're showing that millions of people

0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:02.280
<v Speaker 1>is voting for the people we want and what we

0:58:02.600 --> 0:58:04.920
<v Speaker 1>constantly do. And like I said, the same way they

0:58:04.920 --> 0:58:07.320
<v Speaker 1>do rap tours, you go from state to state and

0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:09.720
<v Speaker 1>you say, listen, we need everybody in this arena right

0:58:09.760 --> 0:58:12.640
<v Speaker 1>here to sign up and galvanize for our own party.

0:58:12.800 --> 0:58:15.520
<v Speaker 1>We understand that we need something different. Okay, So what

0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I need you to understand, you know, because I have

0:58:18.240 --> 0:58:21.520
<v Speaker 1>actually been doing this work for a very very long time.

0:58:21.560 --> 0:58:23.640
<v Speaker 1>They about to bring another young lady on who we

0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:27.400
<v Speaker 1>can ask her opinion. Um and UM. You know, of

0:58:27.400 --> 0:58:30.240
<v Speaker 1>course I'm not saying that you haven't. But the problem

0:58:30.280 --> 0:58:33.000
<v Speaker 1>that you're gonna have is that your number of people

0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:37.080
<v Speaker 1>who are part of this thing we're building will shrink significantly.

0:58:37.200 --> 0:58:40.200
<v Speaker 1>And I'll explain to you why. Because the people, the

0:58:40.280 --> 0:58:46.040
<v Speaker 1>people who are your most committed voting base period every election,

0:58:46.400 --> 0:58:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the ones who vote the most are older black people

0:58:50.240 --> 0:58:53.160
<v Speaker 1>who won't be at your rap concert. They don't give

0:58:53.160 --> 0:58:55.280
<v Speaker 1>a damn about what any of us are saying, and

0:58:55.360 --> 0:58:58.360
<v Speaker 1>they vote Democrat. They don't give a damn If the

0:58:58.440 --> 0:59:01.840
<v Speaker 1>sky turns are in, but they only vote Democrat because

0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:04.480
<v Speaker 1>we haven't given them. And that's why I'm trying to explain.

0:59:05.280 --> 0:59:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to explain to you that it is a process.

0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:12.640
<v Speaker 1>That's all I'm trying to say. The process you're talking about.

0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:15.640
<v Speaker 1>If we got four years right now, four years, we

0:59:15.760 --> 0:59:21.760
<v Speaker 1>got four years to worry about two years. It's not

0:59:21.840 --> 0:59:25.840
<v Speaker 1>a four year process because between now and four years

0:59:26.120 --> 0:59:29.960
<v Speaker 1>you have another mid term election process coming up. And

0:59:30.040 --> 0:59:33.400
<v Speaker 1>so therefore what you do, this is just my political

0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:36.360
<v Speaker 1>strategy what I think, and you guys can tell me

0:59:36.400 --> 0:59:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong. I think you build a base of people,

0:59:40.280 --> 0:59:43.000
<v Speaker 1>you begin to work over the next It's probably gonna

0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:46.760
<v Speaker 1>take eight years to do what you're talking about, because

0:59:46.800 --> 0:59:49.840
<v Speaker 1>in the next two years you're just gonna focus on

0:59:50.160 --> 0:59:53.520
<v Speaker 1>keeping the momentum that you have to be able to

0:59:53.600 --> 0:59:56.760
<v Speaker 1>get to keep the seats and gain more seats in

0:59:56.800 --> 1:00:00.640
<v Speaker 1>the House and in the House, right so send it Congress,

1:00:00.760 --> 1:00:03.120
<v Speaker 1>we need to keep that. So you're gonna focus on

1:00:03.280 --> 1:00:05.960
<v Speaker 1>that right now, because you lose that, you lose the

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<v Speaker 1>whole ball game. Then in four years you will be

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<v Speaker 1>in a situation where you can go to Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 1>or whomever is running on a Democratic ticket and say,

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<v Speaker 1>over these last four years, we have signed up, we've registered,

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<v Speaker 1>we've pulled together over ten million people who say we

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<v Speaker 1>want X, y, z, B, D, E f G. If

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<v Speaker 1>you don't give it to us, we might be with

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<v Speaker 1>the Republicans. Depending on how you work your relationship out

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<v Speaker 1>with your Republican friends, that you might be able to

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<v Speaker 1>change their But anyway, um, you know, it might be

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<v Speaker 1>the Republicans might be, this might be the Independence, it

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<v Speaker 1>might be you know, whatever it is we choose to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But you now have a block of people. So now

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<v Speaker 1>you get to put things on the agenda. It's on

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<v Speaker 1>the debate stage. You hear people talking about it in

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<v Speaker 1>primaries and otherwise. That's where you are in four years. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you take that ten million. When people see your elderly

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<v Speaker 1>people and others, they see that you took ten million

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<v Speaker 1>people and you move policy as a result of it,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna say, Okay, I'm gonna sign on and now

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<v Speaker 1>for the next four years. In the next four years,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got thirty to forty million people, and now you're

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<v Speaker 1>able to say we're running John. So that's what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying this I hear you, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>want you to say, even though our elderly is our

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<v Speaker 1>biggest voting base in the world, right in the country,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's because our youth are not being invigorated.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I'm saying is you going on after a

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<v Speaker 1>base that has already been established, right, that is committed

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<v Speaker 1>to something because they feel like it only represents them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going after a base that probably is way bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than that's what's established, that has committed to nothing because

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<v Speaker 1>they feel like nothing represents them. So I figure, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at the culture that we have, and

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the the reach that all of these

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<v Speaker 1>artists in all these people have that want to change something,

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<v Speaker 1>if you do this like you do a rap tool

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<v Speaker 1>around the world and you Gavin us, it could be

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<v Speaker 1>over ten million because each one of them has their

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<v Speaker 1>own fan Baseion, I don't want to keep our guests

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<v Speaker 1>holding but here's what I will say. I'm willing to

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever y'all tell let's get it. I'll do the

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<v Speaker 1>rap tour, I'll do whatever y'all say. It's going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>And I support that we are now going to be

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<v Speaker 1>joined by a mina to Robbie who is She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>she's already looking. I mean she read a state director

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<v Speaker 1>from March for Our Lives Georgia, a deputy director for

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<v Speaker 1>Rise Georgia. UM, getting out to vote, registering people and

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<v Speaker 1>also just working on a lot of incredible stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know on street Politicians, we do an activist organizer

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<v Speaker 1>segment every week. And it's good to have you with us, Amina,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on in Georgia. Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a great discussion y'all will have. Man, I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>to be a part of it. Yes, you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of it now because we want to know

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think? Do you think that if we

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<v Speaker 1>strategically strategically strategically what is the strategic words? And it's

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<v Speaker 1>cool if we strategically organized around our youth and we

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<v Speaker 1>appeal to what the youth want right now? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that we can galvanize enough energy to create our

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<v Speaker 1>own voting party. WHOA, let's go Amina, But Um, young

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<v Speaker 1>people these days, they've they've seen a lot and comment

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<v Speaker 1>like overall police brutality. They've seen how college debt affects them.

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<v Speaker 1>They've seen all these things. And I was hearing y'all

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<v Speaker 1>talking and nothing. No one is talking about these issues.

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<v Speaker 1>We keep talking about the same things over and over again.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, does anybody actually care about us? Like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, the elderly are our biggest voting base, but

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<v Speaker 1>let's be real, they won't be around when we get

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<v Speaker 1>to a certain age. So are we gonna continue the

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<v Speaker 1>cycle of messing up the world, then coming back trying

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<v Speaker 1>to fix it, then going back messing it up again?

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<v Speaker 1>So we have something has to change, whether I agree

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<v Speaker 1>realvanizing the youth, whether it be changing somebody's mind. But

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<v Speaker 1>on that point, I don't believe in changing people's minds.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe once your mind is made, you're not coming back. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people stay so much time on just

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<v Speaker 1>being like maybe you know, like don't vote for this person,

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<v Speaker 1>don't be with this party. This, Uh, this is bad,

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<v Speaker 1>this is good. But if somebody's mind is made, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>you say or do it's gonna change it, Like no

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<v Speaker 1>matter how many facts you present them, because in their minds,

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<v Speaker 1>you're wrong and exactly, And that's my whole strategy. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>we understand that we can't change people's minds, so why

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<v Speaker 1>don't we get the minds of the people who are

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<v Speaker 1>still being formed, who have a strap, who understand what

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<v Speaker 1>it is right now that's going on. You know, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of you don't vote because they don't see themselves represented.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said, a lot of the issues that the

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<v Speaker 1>young people are dealing with they don't hear anybody talking

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<v Speaker 1>about or feel like anyone cares about it. So if

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<v Speaker 1>we put together a party that focus is mainly and

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<v Speaker 1>exactly on what the youth who aren't voting or and

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<v Speaker 1>the ones who are voting are really passionate about, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we could completely change the dynamics and the trajectory

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<v Speaker 1>of this country. I think that you you guys are right,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an appetite for it. But you know, as an organizer,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand the process that things takes, changing the mindset,

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<v Speaker 1>being able to get unity, being able to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>people are responsible, and so I think that it's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>called a party and its its goals are too ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>be able to capture the votes and and be able

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<v Speaker 1>to run your own your own candidates and what have you.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that the process getting towards that requires

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<v Speaker 1>some political education. People who vote Democrat all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>which again I have to say it because I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure it's clear, because you know, I see

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<v Speaker 1>people watching the show right now who are like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>she's just a Democratic you know, hustler, she just works

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<v Speaker 1>for the Democrats. Um. But the people who are who

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<v Speaker 1>do vote Democrat, die hard voters. Those are individuals who

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<v Speaker 1>have been voting that way for years and years. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not something new that happened just because you know

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years, they've been invested. And I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you an example of what I'm talking about. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where you were with the Democratic primary, but Bernie Sanders.

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<v Speaker 1>People were so excited it about Bernie. We all wanted Bernie, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of wanted Elizabeth Warren. That was my first choice,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Bernie was my second. My son was a

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<v Speaker 1>big Bernie supporter. But guess what across the country when

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<v Speaker 1>it came to time for people to show up at

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<v Speaker 1>the polls, folks did not show up for Bernie the

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<v Speaker 1>way that they needed to, and especially some of the

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<v Speaker 1>very young people who were online talking about him, who

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<v Speaker 1>didn't vote for him on the day that it was

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<v Speaker 1>time to vote. So I feel like we have fallen

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<v Speaker 1>into the cycle of voting for the less of two

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<v Speaker 1>people's We keep doing this like um, and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a reason that Bernie didn't get the nomination was

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't thinking was good for the country, was good

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<v Speaker 1>for the people. They were thinking, well, Joe Biden can

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<v Speaker 1>bring in these you know, these moderate votes, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>vote for him. I remember when I found out that

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden got the nomination. I was like, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know everybody who was here was like, way,

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<v Speaker 1>I want Bernie. But then suddenly the mindset changed and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, who can be Trump? And we need

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of this because that's how we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have country. And we talked about a revolution, We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about radicalizing and tearing down these institutions and this systemic

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<v Speaker 1>um oppression that is built from the ground up. But

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<v Speaker 1>we can't keep doing that if we were just like

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<v Speaker 1>who can be this person? It's not like a four

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<v Speaker 1>year stretch. This goes way beyond that. A right, yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I I think you have the mindset that's necessary to

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<v Speaker 1>do exactly what my son is talking about. And any

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<v Speaker 1>time that I hear someone who's willing to push us

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<v Speaker 1>beyond um, what I may be saying, which you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm laying out a strategy that is a

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<v Speaker 1>winning strategy, but I also know that we cannot move

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<v Speaker 1>through those that process slowly like we this is not

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<v Speaker 1>a delayed thing. We gotta go go time. Oh so,

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<v Speaker 1>tell us about some of the geo TV work that

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<v Speaker 1>you've been doing in Georgia. Of course, Well, um, November,

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<v Speaker 1>you know we flipped Georgia. It was on the group

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<v Speaker 1>this day. It's been a it's been a once, but

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<v Speaker 1>U on the ground organizers did that. It wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party. It wasn't Joe Biden and Kamala Harris Um

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<v Speaker 1>coming down and being like you should vote for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was people realizing that this election is not a

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<v Speaker 1>one way flight. It's more like a bus connect and

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<v Speaker 1>we have to get on this connection flight to go

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<v Speaker 1>towards change. And that's how we got Joe Biden in.

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<v Speaker 1>But now we're sitting in a position where like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're we want change, right, we want we want to

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<v Speaker 1>address police brutality, and we want to address criminal justice reform,

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<v Speaker 1>and we want to address healthcare. But this administration can't

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<v Speaker 1>do anything if the Senate doesn't work. We're gonna be back,

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<v Speaker 1>so Obama's lane. Dug Sessions how he had it, he

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get anything done either. So we realized that getting

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<v Speaker 1>John Austoff and Raphael We're not into office is the

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<v Speaker 1>only way we can get it done. Step one was

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<v Speaker 1>getting Joe Biden in. Step two is getting these people

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<v Speaker 1>in so we can actually get the stuff that we

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<v Speaker 1>want done. Of course, it's not gonna be a pent

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<v Speaker 1>of the radicalization that we want. It's not gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>automatic free healthcare, automatic free college, because let's be real,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not gonna go for it at all. But something

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<v Speaker 1>along the way it's gonna happened. So here, um, like

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<v Speaker 1>y'all said, we've been targeting youth because between November three

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<v Speaker 1>in January five, three thousand high school uh kids turned eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a whole new voting block right there. We need

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<v Speaker 1>we tapped into that. We know that runoff elections don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a high turn off every it's always old white

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<v Speaker 1>people that show up to the polls. And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>historically run off to tense being will Republican because your

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<v Speaker 1>voter based is not showing up. Now, this election is

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<v Speaker 1>on such a weird day, you know, like right after

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<v Speaker 1>the new year, are you still recovering? You don't even

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<v Speaker 1>remember what year it is, January five, But it's to

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<v Speaker 1>remind these people, like all summer long, you was in

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<v Speaker 1>these streets. We were in the streets all summer long.

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<v Speaker 1>We protested, people got be people got arrested. But was

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<v Speaker 1>it for nothing? Is what we did? Is that for nothing?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we just going to sit here and be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the cycles out, we forget the momentum. It's like, remember

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<v Speaker 1>the things that you were fighting for. Remember how people

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<v Speaker 1>who are suffering from corona come back home with three

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar bills because they don't have health at checks.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember these um problems that you know that you have

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<v Speaker 1>faced on the daily basis, and go out and vote

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<v Speaker 1>based on that. Don't just go out and vote because

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<v Speaker 1>I told you you should go out and vote. Vote

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<v Speaker 1>because your story needs to be hurt on the federal level. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, because I feel invigorated. I feel confident that

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get the votes. Because if if you are

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<v Speaker 1>any example of what we have to look forward to

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<v Speaker 1>in our youth, then I know the movement is in

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<v Speaker 1>good hands. So we want to thank you for the

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<v Speaker 1>work you do We want to thank you for coming

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<v Speaker 1>to our show and gracing us and agreeing with me

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the youth can definitely lead the way

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<v Speaker 1>and be you know, the the the catalyst for the change.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you vo sometimes you don't think it too the

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<v Speaker 1>catalysts for change. So we appreciate you. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for joining us. Thank you, take care and being great, queen.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. That's right, alright, alright, we have some amazing

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<v Speaker 1>young people. Yeah, and that I mean we can help,

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<v Speaker 1>but we didn't. We didn't ask her how we can

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<v Speaker 1>help her that or not we can support any of

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<v Speaker 1>her organizational efforts, but we'll make sure that we'll definitely

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<v Speaker 1>reach out. And we need y'all to let us know

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<v Speaker 1>how we can support you. If you know any amazing

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<v Speaker 1>young people, know many any amazing young people are older

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<v Speaker 1>people who are actually on grassroots, on the ground, doing

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<v Speaker 1>the work. So we need y'all to help us, to

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<v Speaker 1>let us know how we can help you. If you

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<v Speaker 1>know anybody that's on the ground, young, old, whoever, is

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<v Speaker 1>doing the work in your community. How can we support you?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you need from us? How can we uplift

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<v Speaker 1>your voice? How can we lend our platform to your

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<v Speaker 1>struggle let us know. Yeah, for sure, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's an important segment for us. We talked about it

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<v Speaker 1>all the time and I'm probably a broken record, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's really important that we consistently bring people

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<v Speaker 1>on our show who are on the ground doing real work.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of people again to get a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of attention, but they don't necessarily to be doing work.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I digress. I was told that I

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<v Speaker 1>mean today, I mean, I mean not mean. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that you just have you have a mood that you

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<v Speaker 1>get in sometimes that can be difficult. It's a difficult mood,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and that I think that's why we don't

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<v Speaker 1>agree on a lot of things. You see, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>agree about the young and old people, and you realize

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<v Speaker 1>that your mood is horrible. I have My disposition is excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>People whose disposition is different, you really want to have

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation anyway. Once again, we don't always agree, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna always be right and she's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>always be wrong, but we will always always be all that.

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