1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: And welcome back George Norie with Jason Martell as we 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: talk about ancient structures and civilizations. Jason, they're all over 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: the country, they're all over the world. There's huge stone 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: monuments and structures. How do you think they used the 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: technology wise? Did they have a technology that baby has 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: since been forgotten? 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: I think so. You know, this is one of the 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 3: interesting parts of the research, is maybe even a what 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 3: we call part of the smoking gun evidence is a 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 3: lot of these megalithic sites seem to be geodetically connected, 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 3: excuse me, across the globe. So we have sites like 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: you know, Giza and Stonehenge, but there's basically many, many 14 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: ancient sites that form a set of what we call 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: lay lines. And what's really interesting, George, is that you 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: see an over and over the same pattern, which is 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: sometime in the past something happened where people saw someone 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: coming down or had some type of an experience that 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 3: they had to commemorate. And without the use of technology, 20 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: what we see in a lot of these sites was 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 3: first it was a large stone was placed there to 22 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: commemorate the experience, or a large pile of stones, and 23 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 3: then eventually they come along and build a church, right 24 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 3: or it becomes a city. But what we see, though, 25 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 3: is an interesting phenomenon is that the ancient stones that 26 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: were originally placed at a lot of these sites, if there 27 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 3: was any type of let's say, tectonic activity at these locations, 28 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: some of the sites, like a courtz and others, could 29 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: get stimulated and create something known as a piezeoelectric effect, 30 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: where there's an actual upwelling of energy. So what we see, George, 31 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: is that a lot of these ancient sites do have 32 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: this upwelling of electromagnetic energy, and we don't understand what 33 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: they were using it for, other than as you said, 34 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: it must have been some type of lost technology where 35 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 3: they were sharing a type of subtle energy across the globe, 36 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 3: you know, connected from these from these ancient locations. 37 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: Might it have been an extraterrestrial technology. 38 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: It's very possible that. You know, there's kind of two 39 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: answers here. One is there's high civilizations that we've lost 40 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: record of, you know, they're off the records of our 41 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 3: current history books. I'll give you an example. You know, 42 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: we hear ancient sites of the Mayan people. Their home 43 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: world was called a homeland was called Atslan. Now if 44 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: you listen to the word Atslan and compare it to Atlantis, 45 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: you can see there's a very close similarity. And if 46 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: you look at the Breath of Knowledge right and the 47 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: toll tech and as Tech and Mayan cultures, how did 48 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 3: they learn all of this? The the codices and their beautiful, 49 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: intricate drawings and creativity, one might suggest that they are 50 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: lost remnants from Utslaan Atlantis. So one answer, George, is 51 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 3: that there's a high civilization that we've just forgotten or 52 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: don't have record of, and that high civilization could have 53 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: been partly human, partly alien. And then, of course the 54 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 3: other answer is yes, many many ancient cultures speak of 55 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: being visited by their gods. Again, even in the Bible, 56 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: it talks about a time when man walked amongst you know, 57 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: living gods. Egypt calls it the time of zep Tepe. 58 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 3: So we can either take it as a literal fact 59 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: that there was a time that the gods were here, 60 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: and then we would ask that question, well, were they 61 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: really gods or were they potentially extraterrestrial? 62 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: They say Benjamin Franklin was responsible for discovering electricity. It's 63 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: a long long time ago. What do you think was 64 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: going on. 65 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: Well, you know, the discovery of ancient electricity and you know, 66 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: high things like that come out of cultures like Egypt 67 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: thousands of years ago, where we see reliefs in Dendera 68 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 3: of what appear to be light bulbs plugged into some 69 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 3: type of a generator. So, you know, you could ask 70 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 3: the question that if Egypt had macro power, meaning the 71 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: pyramids probably weren't tombs as we discussed earlier, they were 72 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 3: possibly generating some type of an energy at a macro level, 73 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: then they're also going to have micro electricity, right, like 74 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: lights and such like that. So we do see evidence 75 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 3: of electricity of power being generated across Egypt and other 76 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 3: areas you know that go back to around twenty five 77 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: hundred BC. 78 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: You've studied the Sumerians for decades. Do you agree with 79 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 2: the late theories of zachariacidchen. 80 00:04:59,600 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: I? 81 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: Do you know he had a nice set of data 82 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: from the linguistic standpoint when we look at the past 83 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 3: through the ancient astronaut lens, we've had two standing pillars. 84 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 3: You know, in my time of research, Eric von Danakin, 85 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: who has gone to many different sites and found many 86 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: different artifacts that raised the question of high technology. Zachariah 87 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 3: Sichin comes from at an angle of linguistic understanding raised 88 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 3: on the Hebrew Bible and can look at this at 89 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: this Sumerian language and actually translated directly. So you know, 90 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: we lost a source there of great reverence through Zacharaia Sitchin. 91 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 3: But he did, you know, quite a bit of research 92 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 3: to expose the idea that the Sumerian culture, like many others, 93 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: talked about a time when they lived amongst their living gods. 94 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: And instead of mainstream science saying, oh, it's mythology. You know, 95 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: all these wonderful things that they drew on walls and 96 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 3: the daily descriptions of their lives, all of that's accurate. 97 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: The images are accurate. But this other stuff they talk 98 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 3: about gods interaction with their gods. You know, they're just 99 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 3: making all that up is to define their place in 100 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 3: the universe. What are you talking about? You know, they 101 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 3: went to great lengths to record these sacred interactions that 102 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 3: meant something, and that's why they're commemorated on walls and cliffs. 103 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 3: You know, all throughout the ancient Near East. 104 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: Well Jason Martella's websites are linked up at coast tocoastam 105 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: dot com. Do some of these ancient structures show signs 106 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: of advanced engineering? 107 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 3: They do. You know a lot of these sites again, 108 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 3: as we talked about earlier, have a type of cyclopean architecture. 109 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 3: We don't understand how these stones were moved or cut, 110 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: but it raises a lot of questions around technology. And 111 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: you know, sites like nan Madal. We know that this 112 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: is an island that was like basically man made on 113 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: coral and then somehow they were taking these basalt stones 114 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: from one end of the island on Nanmadal, and as 115 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: the legends and stories talk about, these were somehow lifted 116 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: high in the air and moved across the island and 117 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 3: stacked into place. Now, the legends talk about these two 118 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: twin hero brothers that were giants and somehow had the 119 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 3: power to use a type of like a bird or 120 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: a dragon. The descriptions talk about this shiny object with 121 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: red glowing eyes that with his claws could lift these 122 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: logs in the sky and move it across the island. 123 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: You know, to me, this sounds like misrepresented technology. So 124 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: either they were again using things that the ancients couldn't describe. 125 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: Or there's also the descriptions of you know, levitation and 126 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: some type of vibrational sound technology that might have made 127 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: a huge megalithic you know stone like a cotton ball 128 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: that you could just easily move around with, you know, 129 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: the lightest of touch. 130 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: There's an incredible story of depiction of gods coming down 131 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: from the sky in cultures like the Mayans, the Egyptians, 132 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: the Hindus. To me, that sounds extra terrestrial. 133 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: Jason, Well, you know, we see a very similar description, George, 134 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: right as you know, their gods never come from across 135 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 3: the lake or down from the mountain, even though they 136 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: might arrive from a boat or from a sky vehicle. 137 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 3: Most of the descriptions are these are these beings that 138 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: are coming down from the heavens. So, you know, it 139 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 3: raises a lot of questions if this isn't misrepresented technology 140 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: where they describe, you know, having the power of flight 141 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 3: or giving them some description of wings that they didn't 142 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 3: understand technology and only could use some type of natural 143 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: reference to give them these superpowers that they were witnessing. 144 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: In your opinion, who were the nephileine? 145 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: Well, you know, the Nephilene are also known as the watchers. 146 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 3: They could be the same race of beings known as 147 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: the Onanaki. But there's there's clearly been a presence here 148 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: on earth and the Nephilene recorded in you know, ancient texts, 149 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 3: the Hebrew Bible. Again, these descriptions could also be from 150 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: other cultures talking about the same thing. We'll give you 151 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: an example. It's very interesting that we look from the 152 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: biblical lens, we hear the gods warring with each other. 153 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: So you've got angels and demons, Angels battling demons, you know. 154 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 3: But if you look at through the ancient astronaut lens 155 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 3: and you hear of you know, races like the Onnaki 156 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: and let's say, perhaps like the Draconian or some type 157 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 3: of reptilian race, now you can envision two different races actually, 158 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: you know, extraterrestrials battling each other. And so instead of 159 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: saying they're angels and demons, it's the Onanachi and the Draconians. 160 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 3: Right now you get a little bit more grounded in 161 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 3: reality rather than just this mythical discussion. And so a 162 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: lot of times we have to make that connection of 163 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: looking at things through the modern lens and trying to 164 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: understand what the ancients were talking about. 165 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: Ki Jian, What is the twenty four thousand year processional cycle? 166 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: What is that? 167 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: Well, a lot of us have heard of something called 168 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: the Dark Ages or the Golden Age, and it turns 169 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: out that, you know, when we hear these terms, we 170 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 3: think of time as just a linear progression of the 171 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 3: Dark Ages and eventually we'll be in the Golden Age. 172 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: It turns out, over thirty ancient cultures we're tracking a 173 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 3: system of time called procession, and this is a twenty 174 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: four thousand year cycle where essentially these thirty ancient cultures 175 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 3: all agreed somehow to be using the twelve constellations, the 176 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 3: twelve zodiacal breakdown of the heavens as like a grand 177 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 3: celestial clock. In every two thousand years, we're pointing at 178 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: a new north star. In around twenty twelve, the Mayan 179 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 3: calendar's end, which wasn't the end of time, it was 180 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: just the end of a calendar date, we moved away 181 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 3: from the constellation of Pisces, now starting to point towards Aquarius. 182 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: So somehow these cultures were using a system of time 183 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: that allowed them to track the rise and flow of 184 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: civilizations here on Earth on a very large scale of time. 185 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: You know, again this would answer this would bring up 186 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: the question as to how did they do this? Is 187 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 3: this some lost knowledge or was this given to them, 188 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: bequeathed them by some advanced culture erace. 189 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: Truly remarkable. Let's go to Mars for a moment. What 190 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: do you think about Sidonia in the face. 191 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 3: Well, you know, we've been tracking this for twenty years. 192 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: I'd start off with some of the more current stuff. 193 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 3: That's fascinating is you know Elon Musk is preparing to 194 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: send a SpaceX crew of Optimist robots to Mars next year. 195 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: I mean, if everything stays on track, we will be 196 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 3: sending a payload package to Mars with basically AI powered 197 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 3: robots that you know, can collect a new level of 198 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: evidence for us. Every time I see this tweet from 199 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: Elon about sending the robots to Mars, I respond saying, Elon, 200 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: you know, if you want to really raise the bar, 201 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: and if you're listening now, I say it too, send 202 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 3: your robots to Sidonia. It's not enough to just go 203 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 3: to Mars and say we're here. Why don't you confirm 204 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: that we have an ancient connection with Mars. So at 205 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 3: the top level we might have the opportunity to confirm 206 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 3: that there's you know, this connection astro archaeology, if you will, 207 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: on another planet. But we've been looking at this area 208 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: of Mars called Sidonia as as you well know, you know, 209 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 3: for twenty five years. And the kicker of this the 210 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 3: word I'd give in my lectures, which I just talked 211 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 3: about at contact last weekend, from NASA and the other agencies, 212 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: the word is obfuscation. Obfuscation. They are obfuscating what's really 213 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: going on. And if we look at the data of 214 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: the face and pyramids, you know, the face on Mars. 215 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: The data they keep releasing with higher resolution cameras, the 216 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 3: face looks worse. It's it's they're hiding the details. So 217 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on on Mars, but I 218 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 3: feel like it's in the same camp as the Moon. Right, 219 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 3: we have objects in our own solar system with clear 220 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: evidence of some type of activity that's probably still going 221 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: on to this day. 222 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: Did the Martians come here or did we go there first? 223 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: Well, in my lecture, I show lots of evidence that 224 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 3: Mars was a watery planet, you know, when we just 225 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: had the NASA images of Mars's surface. Everything's in black 226 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: and white, gray scale. So you'll see areas like the 227 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: Goosev Crater where NASA films this stuff in the middle 228 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 3: of the crater and you look at this and you're like, 229 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 3: you know, that looks like some type of like brush 230 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 3: or bush or like sea weed, stuff that you'd see 231 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: growing on a shoreline. Now, Issa, the European Space Agency, 232 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: takes all their images in color. And when they image 233 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 3: the Gusev Crater same coordinates as NASA, what do we 234 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: see in color? What looked like planets, in trees, clear green, 235 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: chlorophylled vegetation growing on the surface. So for me, you know, 236 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 3: I use a lot of AI, now you know, I 237 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: use you know, visual language model, a vision language model 238 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: to look through thousands of images to find those needles 239 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: in the haystack. And what I'm finding a lot of 240 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: hits of you know, where the data is pulled out 241 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: by AI is over and over on the surface of Mars, 242 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: and NASA archives are standing bodies of water and stuff 243 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: growing around it, just like you see on Earth the 244 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 3: Great Lakes surrounded by forests and shrubs. We see a 245 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: lot of that same activity on Mars. 246 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: What would you say, Jason, might be the greatest discovery 247 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: to prove this ancient alien theory. 248 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: I'd say that probably the biggest discovery would be, you know, 249 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: obviously uncovering some type of lost technology that is like 250 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: a smoking gun. You know, maybe that's already been done 251 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: under the paws of the sphinx or in some secret 252 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: chamber and it quickly gets classified. But I'd say that 253 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: there's a there's still a large room of opportunity for 254 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 3: discovery sites like Skinwalker Ranch, where we're actually partnering now 255 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 3: for the first time, you know, in euthological studies with 256 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 3: the military, ufologists with the military, and using military grade 257 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: technology to do signal detection. So I would say the 258 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: greatest thing George and our and our you know, uh 259 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 3: ability to detect anything is some of the new partnerships 260 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: we're doing now to expose what's really going on. We 261 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: might be hidden from the top level facts, but we 262 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: are getting access that just hopefully we'll start to uncover 263 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 3: some of the real truths. 264 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 265 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to coastam 266 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: dot com for more