Speaker 1: So I've said publicly that I don't want to talk
Speaker 1: about people that I don't think are good role models
Speaker 1: and that I think shouldn't be given a platform, shouldn't
Speaker 1: be promoted, And so I've I've kind of been doing
Speaker 1: a cleanse of things that I don't find to be
Speaker 1: healthy in media and in my personal life and just
Speaker 1: overall most importantly, I could talk about things I don't like,
Speaker 1: and then I'm part of the problem. So by making
Speaker 1: my statement about not feeding the beast and not wanting
Speaker 1: to talk about things that I don't think should be
Speaker 1: talked about or people who should be role models my
Speaker 1: my personal model, I just unfollowed a media outline for
Speaker 1: talking about something I don't think that should be talked
Speaker 1: about endlessly. Um. So I've talked in the past about
Speaker 1: the royal family, and I personally, from what I've seen,
Speaker 1: I don't think any of these people are bad people,
Speaker 1: Like I really really don't. If I think about if
Speaker 1: I met Harry and if I met Megan, what I
Speaker 1: think that they were nice people, kind people. I probably would.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that we've read conflicting reports, but
Speaker 1: I don't think they're bad, diabolical people that shouldn't be
Speaker 1: in any position of power or fame or role models.
Speaker 1: I really don't think that. And over a year ago
Speaker 1: I said something that UM was definitely polarizing. And then
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago I talked about, you know,
Speaker 1: when everyone was talking about the Royal family, and UM,
Speaker 1: I think because I've been on social media more, I'm
Speaker 1: seeing things more that I don't usually see. So I
Speaker 1: guess I've been talking about them more. And I got
Speaker 1: a little full, to be honest, UM, and I thought about, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't talk about certain people anymore because I don't
Speaker 1: want to give them any air or oxygen. But I
Speaker 1: don't like, I don't have a problem talking about certain
Speaker 1: members of the royal family because I don't think they're
Speaker 1: actually bad people. I don't think. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a bad thing that Harry should be in a position
Speaker 1: of fame or um influence. He seems like he cares,
Speaker 1: he seems like it was a good son, he seems
Speaker 1: like a good husband and father, a nice person, etcetera.
Speaker 1: And I said in a Bethany Frankel type of way,
Speaker 1: which the way you say something is important. And I've
Speaker 1: made that error in the past, where because I you know,
Speaker 1: I can be snarky and I have a quick wit,
Speaker 1: and so I'll say something because it's the funnier way
Speaker 1: to say it. It just comes rolls off my tongue.
Speaker 1: It always has, and you know, and it's never ever planned.
Speaker 1: That's what's crazy. No one never believes that. But I
Speaker 1: ask Andy Cohen if it's ever planned. It's just what
Speaker 1: comes out of my mouth. But when I said, I've
Speaker 1: said about Megan that she has a challenge, let's say
Speaker 1: it in a way that I should say things that
Speaker 1: are constructive. I've said she has a challenging way of
Speaker 1: making a good decision. That's not the way I said it,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying way are Sometimes I feel like she
Speaker 1: can't they can't get out of their own way. It
Speaker 1: feels like they left the royal family and and it's
Speaker 1: this is about all of us, Like this is about
Speaker 1: all of us and having to like you want to
Speaker 1: get your word, and you want to say a thing,
Speaker 1: and you can want to make it better, and let's
Speaker 1: say this and that will make it better and then
Speaker 1: they're gonna like me, and then they're gonna really understand me,
Speaker 1: you know, And you you bury yourself or It could
Speaker 1: be a girl waiting for a person a guy to
Speaker 1: call and being stereotypical, but waiting for someone to call,
Speaker 1: and then you say something and then you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: but let me just say this to cover it up,
Speaker 1: and it'll be different, like this bat will make them
Speaker 1: text me back or like hey just saw something, I
Speaker 1: want to see you, And then they still don't text
Speaker 1: you back, and now you're burying yourself even deeper. And
Speaker 1: what I believe is that they wanted to leave the
Speaker 1: royal family for whatever reasons are true or not true.
Speaker 1: They wanted to leave. They weren't happy there, for paparazzi reasons,
Speaker 1: for privacy reasons, for other reasons that I don't know,
Speaker 1: um too much pressure, who knows right? And then they
Speaker 1: every word you say has consequences, so we all have
Speaker 1: to think about what we're saying. So if you're saying
Speaker 1: we want a more private life or quote unquote norm
Speaker 1: or we don't want to be hounded or you know whatever,
Speaker 1: and then your vocal, then people are saying, wait, you
Speaker 1: wanted privacy, okay, or we want to be you know,
Speaker 1: be private. But then you're moving into Tyler Perry's house
Speaker 1: and that seems like it's contradictory, and I'm not debating
Speaker 1: what people believe or don't believe, because I think that
Speaker 1: sometimes the way that I say things can be polarizing,
Speaker 1: and they we're not able to have the actual conversation
Speaker 1: because you're just hearing the shock value of what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to do that anymore, likes I'm
Speaker 1: not compassionate, etcetera. So I think that they departed and
Speaker 1: then wanted to be the humanitarian philanthropists for you know,
Speaker 1: use their use their power for good not evil, and
Speaker 1: kept sort of doing things to talk about it and
Speaker 1: making deals to make it financially sound for them. So
Speaker 1: they were secure because they weren't being supported anymore. And
Speaker 1: it was tempting to just like, you know, I've been
Speaker 1: through I was through the most horrible divorce you've ever
Speaker 1: you could ever even imagine, and I kept my mouth
Speaker 1: shop but did I want like to just wait, but
Speaker 1: I just want to say because what he that's not
Speaker 1: what happened, Like you want to get it out, But
Speaker 1: I've controlled myself because you're just adding gasoline to a fire.
Speaker 1: And by them constantly having a new thing to say
Speaker 1: about something either the plight and by the way, for
Speaker 1: people who believe every single thing that they say, and
Speaker 1: that's totally fine if you do. I said that they
Speaker 1: are incapable of making a good decision because they want
Speaker 1: to just get their words out so badly. They want
Speaker 1: to get their message out, their content out, their moves out,
Speaker 1: their business decision. So it's like, let's throw it all in.
Speaker 1: We've left it was terrible, it was racist, it was abusive,
Speaker 1: it was horrible. Let's talk about then let's talk about
Speaker 1: how we've been treated and how we're not you know,
Speaker 1: we can't get security and we can't pay for that.
Speaker 1: Then let's talk about what our kids have or haven't gotten.
Speaker 1: Then let's do a show. Let's get a deal. Let's
Speaker 1: get a multimillion dollar deal for a book. Let's get
Speaker 1: a multimillion dollar deal for a show. Let's get a
Speaker 1: multimillion dollar deal for a podcast. Let's jam it all.
Speaker 1: Let's throw it all in the pot, strike while the
Speaker 1: iron's hot. Let's get a book deal, Let's mention it all,
Speaker 1: Let's get it all at one time. Then let's talk
Speaker 1: about the shows we used to do and how we
Speaker 1: were demoralized and we were objectified and like you're jamming
Speaker 1: all this stuff into a big stew and it's a
Speaker 1: big pot of shit. That's the problem. It's a big stew.
Speaker 1: I'm not even going to discuss anymore what I personally think.
Speaker 1: I don't know them, let's be honest. So I've talked
Speaker 1: about the media decisions, and I still firmly believe they
Speaker 1: have not made good decisions. And they're not being advised well,
Speaker 1: or they're not taking advice. They're not advising each other well,
Speaker 1: or they don't take each other's advice, or they don't
Speaker 1: listen to each other's advice, or they're afraid to give
Speaker 1: each other advice. But there are two kids alone in
Speaker 1: a world, and they're making bad decisions, scrambling in circles.
Speaker 1: And I know people that have been asked to work
Speaker 1: for them, and I know people that have been asked
Speaker 1: to do pr for them, and they're running in circles.
Speaker 1: And like I said, we're throw let's we got a
Speaker 1: big pot. Throw the podcast in. Okay, yeah, throw a
Speaker 1: docuseries and it's not a reality show, it's a docuseries.
Speaker 1: Throw that into throw I'm talking about by you. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask him if I can play a princess at
Speaker 1: at a party that should be about something else. Throw
Speaker 1: that in the pot. Let's go with Oprah. Let's talk
Speaker 1: to Opra. Let's talk about all the bad things that
Speaker 1: happen to us. Let's do that. Let's do another interview,
Speaker 1: Let's do an Article's do a vanity fair cover. Let's
Speaker 1: do it news we cover. Let's do a puppet show.
Speaker 1: Let's have a bake sale. Let's you know, doing only
Speaker 1: fans account Like, throw it on the goddamn pot and
Speaker 1: you get a pot of ship. And anybody who has
Speaker 1: a good, successful career picks their spots one thing at
Speaker 1: a time. Build the flavors. Start with the olive oil
Speaker 1: and the garlic. Put some salt and pepper on the bottom.
Speaker 1: You don't have put the salt on the top, and
Speaker 1: you have like plain sauce with salt on the top. No,
Speaker 1: build it from the bottom. Then the youngion. Sweat those onions.
Speaker 1: Then put your tomatoes in. Then put you know, steep
Speaker 1: your basil in that oil, and then put that into
Speaker 1: it's got the basil flavor. Then let's layer the flavors,
Speaker 1: not just throw a bunch of ship in a pot.
Speaker 1: Put a tomato and onion, garlic, clothes, the pot and
Speaker 1: what do you get a pot of ship? So you
Speaker 1: have to be strategic in your business decisions. And I'm
Speaker 1: shame on me for not messaging things properly because I
Speaker 1: just go for the this one kid funk up anything,
Speaker 1: you know, I say my thing, and I'm not really
Speaker 1: getting at the point because it's too like explosive to
Speaker 1: really get to the point in the message, which is
Speaker 1: we have to be strategic. We have to play chess
Speaker 1: and not checkers. I've been saying that for a long time.
Speaker 1: It's been very said lately a lot, but I've been
Speaker 1: saying that for a long time in many books, and
Speaker 1: you have to be playing the board one step at
Speaker 1: a time. I if I wanted to leave, I probably
Speaker 1: would have waited a little bit longer. But let's pretend
Speaker 1: I wouldn't couldn't wait, I would have left, and I
Speaker 1: would have gone quiet. I would have been just quiet,
Speaker 1: let the dust settle, be quiet. The allure was so
Speaker 1: great there, that was such popular because it was a
Speaker 1: lure like you were like, what's it like? What are
Speaker 1: they like? What's he like? What's the relationship like? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, they rose chicken together, they watched TV. There
Speaker 1: was a veil, there was an allure that everybody was into.
Speaker 1: And then they left and it was like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: And you know, you've got like this sort of envisioning
Speaker 1: like Carol and Bessett Kennedy and like this aloofness and
Speaker 1: a quietness, and you know even jfk Jr. Like we
Speaker 1: we just want to like be in sort of on
Speaker 1: the up west side, riding in the park and like
Speaker 1: being cool but not getting a lot of attention. And
Speaker 1: it made them more interesting and just more alluring. And
Speaker 1: and and if they had sat quiet, we wouldn't have
Speaker 1: We would have forgotten about it. We would have talked
Speaker 1: about it a little, and then we would have been
Speaker 1: like once in a while we'd see something or some
Speaker 1: event or some little announcement or something. Oh yeah, by
Speaker 1: the way, throwing the humanitarian events. Let's go to Uvaldi,
Speaker 1: let's get on stage and at a world conference to
Speaker 1: throw all the pot and the ship in the pot.
Speaker 1: But I would have left, and then I would have
Speaker 1: made You got to make an exit to make an entrance.
Speaker 1: They never made exit. You never you made an exit
Speaker 1: from one You went from one expensive building to another,
Speaker 1: expensive building. Like you never made an exit, Lauren Michael
Speaker 1: said to me, you have to make an exit to
Speaker 1: make an enterence. Old school pr for me was when
Speaker 1: I was announcing that first book, Naturally Thin, when I
Speaker 1: was a nobody. It was like, say nothing about anything,
Speaker 1: and then say that one thing, then go quiet, then
Speaker 1: say the next thing. Like you didn't say you had
Speaker 1: a book until the day you had the book. Here's
Speaker 1: the book. It's right here and you can buy it
Speaker 1: right now. You weren't droning on about it forever the
Speaker 1: book that this, Stay quiet, then come out hit him
Speaker 1: with your best motherfucking shut. Okay, but you went from
Speaker 1: one expensive building over there, you flew, flew across the pond,
Speaker 1: went into another expensive building, Tyler Perry's as went into
Speaker 1: another expensive fifteen million dollar house next to Ellen and Oprah,
Speaker 1: the most relatable neighborhood, you know, next to Ellen Oprah
Speaker 1: Ashton Kutcher, which is obviously the most relatable building in
Speaker 1: our neighborhood in the world. And like, just stay fucking tight,
Speaker 1: keep it tight right, sit back, and then make an entrance.
Speaker 1: Do it a Mall Looney style. The bitch is not
Speaker 1: fucking playing around. She comes out, she has to say something.
Speaker 1: She's fighting for a cause, it is heard. She comes back,
Speaker 1: she goes into a little hole. She comes out, she's
Speaker 1: wearing a sick whatever else that she's wearing she's going,
Speaker 1: or whatever fashion event she's going. She and George little chuck,
Speaker 1: a little cuteness, a little whatever. Go back in your
Speaker 1: fucking hole. They're not stupid, they're old school. But when
Speaker 1: you come out and you're throwing all this motherfuckering ship
Speaker 1: in the pot, no one can taste any of the flavors.
Speaker 1: It's a pile of mush. We don't know what we're eating.
Speaker 1: What are we eating? A book, a podcast, a TV show,
Speaker 1: a world summit, like a security issue, an abuse like
Speaker 1: by a family, like a game show? Like what else
Speaker 1: do we have we can throw in this? Spot Less
Speaker 1: is more? Pick your spots, play check play chess, be
Speaker 1: aware of the pieces. Something could come up em if
Speaker 1: the play checkers sometimes be aware. But keep it, you know,
Speaker 1: listen for somebody, for somebody who was in the royal
Speaker 1: family for even a minute. You need to know that
Speaker 1: fucking chessboard and who's king and who's queen and how
Speaker 1: it all works. So that's all I think I think
Speaker 1: they could be the nicest, best, most honorable, amazing people
Speaker 1: in the world. And I said that they are not
Speaker 1: exactly terrific in their decision making. And I stand by
Speaker 1: that we need to choose why, how, and what we're saying.
Speaker 1: We need to know when, we need to know who, what, where,
Speaker 1: why and how of what we're saying and what we're showing.
Speaker 1: And you know, timing is everything. So all of that,
Speaker 1: which is why I call it a rant. That's a rant.
Speaker 1: All of that is to get to the point that
Speaker 1: Harry's new book is coming out and it's called Spare.
Speaker 1: You could have named it share because that's or over share.
Speaker 1: That is not I'm just going to come out and
Speaker 1: say it. Someone is under review at whatever company put
Speaker 1: that book out right now, Like, that's not good name
Speaker 1: for a book for that person. If you're a bowler
Speaker 1: and you just you've had an amazing career but just
Speaker 1: been shy of greatness, I can see it. Spare, You're
Speaker 1: not you know, it's not strike. It's a spare. Spare
Speaker 1: says to me. I want to hear what it says
Speaker 1: to you. Spare says to me, spare air, woe is me?
Speaker 1: The extra air. You know, in families, it's terrible. They
Speaker 1: they'll say, like, oh, they have a spare kid, because
Speaker 1: it's a third kid. You know, God forbid something happens
Speaker 1: if you only have you know, if you only have one.
Speaker 1: I think it's if you only have one kid, God
Speaker 1: forbid something happens you have none, Like it's a terrible
Speaker 1: where it came from. But the spare it's first of all,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have a good connotation. It's very woe is me.
Speaker 1: No one wants to hear wealthy people, royal family members,
Speaker 1: famous people, people in a position of power complain at all,
Speaker 1: even if it's justified with Nobody wants to hear people
Speaker 1: of Nobody wants to hear high profile people complain. And
Speaker 1: the title spare says to me, woe is me. It's
Speaker 1: just the bad may not even be with the contents
Speaker 1: of the book. Say I have no idea, but I'm
Speaker 1: a marketer. That is, I am a marketer and a
Speaker 1: namer by a trade. And I'm sure I've made mistakes.
Speaker 1: I don't remember um in naming things, I'm saying um.
Speaker 1: Some would say skinny girl, because you know, of the
Speaker 1: world is not about being skinny, but I named it
Speaker 1: for a locality, Margarita, and I said what I said,
Speaker 1: and I love the name because it's a great brand
Speaker 1: and great. Um. That's a bad name. It could be
Speaker 1: the best book, and it could be warm peace, it
Speaker 1: could be the freaking Old Testament. It's a bad name.
Speaker 1: I want to know what it says to other people.
Speaker 1: To me, Spare says woe is Me? And all telling memoir.
Speaker 1: It screams privacy. It really really does. Wow. I stand
Speaker 1: by I don't stand by how I've said things. I
Speaker 1: stand by I've said that I do not think that
Speaker 1: these two are making good long term business decisions. They
Speaker 1: are doing a smashing grab job. It's reminiscent of other
Speaker 1: families in this country. This is a smashing grab right now. Actually,
Speaker 1: we don't just say about the reminiscent of other families
Speaker 1: in this country. This feels like a smashing grab job
Speaker 1: when they could have played the long game. There is
Speaker 1: money to be made in the immediate, but there's also
Speaker 1: there is also it's just not the whole thing has
Speaker 1: been played wrong, just playing checkers, with the royal family
Speaker 1: taking the low hanging fruit. It's tempting to go on,
Speaker 1: Oprah believe me. Believe me, there were people whould sell
Speaker 1: their soul to the devil to go on Oprah. It's tempting,
Speaker 1: but all these steps together, just say me, me, me, me, me,
Speaker 1: me me No, no, no no no. I need it now.
Speaker 1: I need it now. Though, and we're like, it seems
Speaker 1: so so desperate and so clamoring versus calmly getting your
Speaker 1: story out in due time, let the buttermilk. It will
Speaker 1: come out. It will all come up, but one thing
Speaker 1: at a time, time and slow and low barbecue. We
Speaker 1: do not have to jam it all. I literally I'm
Speaker 1: on like the It's like the fucking Jiffy lube of
Speaker 1: Megan and Harry. It's it's the I got it all.
Speaker 1: It's been. I took it all. I got the appetizer you.
Speaker 1: I've been served the order of the appetizer, the salad,
Speaker 1: the soup, the entree, the palate cleanser. I didn't even
Speaker 1: get a palate cleanser. Actually that's the problem. The dessert
Speaker 1: and the after dinner liqure and a cigar. I've been
Speaker 1: served all of it in one sitting of Harry and
Speaker 1: Megan without any ability to digest it. It's just like,
Speaker 1: give me all of it. I'm eating a book, a podcast,
Speaker 1: I'm eating and All Tell All memoir, a podcast, an
Speaker 1: Oprah interview. I can't even keep up. I'm eating it
Speaker 1: all at once, and I'm full, and I'm sick. That's
Speaker 1: the problem. We need to be fed in courses. I
Speaker 1: would like I would like Harry and Megan to be
Speaker 1: fed to me in in in courses if I could
Speaker 1: possibly opt for that menu choice. I would like a
Speaker 1: chef's tasting menu in twelve courses. I don't want to
Speaker 1: eat all my food in one gobble, not a goat.
Speaker 1: H