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Speaker 1: should be and a little strange today it's a Sunday,

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Speaker 1: but there were three ball games yesterday in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League and I had some comments on that, and honestly,

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Speaker 1: I invite some people to discuss them with me because

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Speaker 1: I want to get this off my chest. Because I

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Speaker 1: love football as much as anybody else. I love to

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Speaker 1: sit on the couch, have a couple of snacks, watch

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Speaker 1: don't have to go to a public toilet. But there

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Speaker 1: were some things that really irked me yesterday. And if

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Speaker 1: you don't mind, I'd like to give out the phone

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Speaker 1: number first and factual, right, now, so if you disagree

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Speaker 1: with me, say so, and maybe in fact you're in

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Speaker 1: my corner. Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, that's

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Speaker 1: me right now. There was just one thing, one freaking thing,

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Speaker 1: one common thread during the three NFL games played yesterday Saturday.

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Speaker 1: And you're gonna say, well, Andy Firmer, what was that?

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Speaker 1: What was that? Okay, I'll tell you the amount of

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Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks? Okay, it's driving me crazy. Really, Minnesota, the

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Speaker 1: announcers had said in the game against the Cincinnati Bengals,

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Speaker 1: Minnesota was on their fifth quarterback yesterday. Now, Detroit and

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Speaker 1: Denver had their start, there's no doubt about that. But

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Speaker 1: this got me thinking, when was the last time the

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Speaker 1: National Football League saw so many backups playing key roles.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember it. I followed the National Football League

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Speaker 1: many backups getting into action. Now, if you're going to

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Speaker 1: National Football League to a Broadway show, However, entertainment to

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Speaker 1: me is entertainment. You know what you do with the

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Speaker 1: discretionary dollars is your business. You want to go to

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Speaker 1: a Broadway show, go to an NFL game, You're still

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Speaker 1: enjoying yourself. Okay, if you go to a Broadway show,

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Speaker 1: do you want to see the understudy? That's exactly what

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Speaker 1: these backup quarterbacks are. They're understudies, all right, all right,

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Speaker 1: and it's not fair, not fair to you the fan,

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Speaker 1: not fair to me, and it's not good for the game.

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Speaker 1: got to thinking, why are so many of these guys hurt?

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Speaker 1: Why are they hurt all the time? Why are these

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Speaker 1: All right, Well back in the day, and you've got

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Speaker 1: twelve or maybe fourteen game seasons, that was it. But

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Speaker 1: So I ask you, maybe I'm stretching it. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: I'm coming back again playing on Thursday. Maybe that's why

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Speaker 1: is this that Jake Browning yesterday and kind of it's

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Speaker 1: steroid test tomorrow, mini, today, Sunday. I'll be in the

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Speaker 1: Because they see he's been doing so well, there's a

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Speaker 1: Browning turned positive on a steroid test a year in

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's happened to the Pittsburgh Steelers this year.

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Speaker 1: I think the first game was probably the best game

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Speaker 1: All right, So this is a first for a quarterback.

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Speaker 9: Good morning. I wanted to chime in because I totally

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Speaker 1: Well, you bring up a great point. Let me let

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Speaker 9: And it's it's it's very much a risk, you know,

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Speaker 1: And I still believe the more games you play, the

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Speaker 9: Hey, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: Thank you a great day. Here's my guy, mister football.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he could set me straight. Bucky Brooks, what's going on?

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Speaker 7: What's going on? Andy? He's everything.

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Speaker 1: Everything's wonderful. Not for you, enough for you, Jacksonville Jaguars,

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Speaker 7: A couple of things. When it comes to scouting in general,

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Speaker 7: managers versus game changers. Another word that kind of draws

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Speaker 7: the ire of people is when you say system players, right,

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Speaker 7: but eighty five percent of the players in the National

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Speaker 7: the right fit for a scheme or a system, and

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Speaker 7: so it takes a while to kind of figure out

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Speaker 7: who can do what. So Jake Browne was obviously mad

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Speaker 7: shots at Minnesota Vikings because he had been cut three times. Well,

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Speaker 7: he just didn't necessarily fit what you know, Mike Zimmer

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Speaker 7: and that staff wanted. He goes to Cincinnati Zach Taylor,

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Speaker 7: different coach, different scheme. Maybe Zach Taylor is a little

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Speaker 7: more nurturing being a former quarterback at Nebraska. Who knows,

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Speaker 7: but it clicked for him. And I think a lot

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Speaker 7: of that, you know, when it comes to Tommy DeVito

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Speaker 7: being with the Giants, some of that is Brian day

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Speaker 7: what he does and put him in a situation where

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Speaker 7: he's only doing those things that he does really well.

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Speaker 7: There's a lot that goes into it. And because those

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Speaker 7: guys have limited reps in practice, because you've heard all

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Speaker 7: these coaches have a bunch of players and they talk

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Speaker 7: about the start against all the reps or whatever. Well,

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Speaker 7: I've always thought that was silly that the starter takes

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Speaker 7: all the reps, because what if the starter gets hurt,

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Speaker 7: the backup is not prepared. So some of the things

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Speaker 7: that have been in place in the National Football League

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Speaker 7: for a long time, like our kid way of thinking

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Speaker 7: about how we practice, how we develop players, some of

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Speaker 7: that has also impacted whether these young players, when they

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Speaker 7: have an opportunity, whether they succeed or phil there you.

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Speaker 1: Go, he's Bucket Brooks. How many firma with Fox Football

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Speaker 1: Sunday on Fox Sports Radio One. NFL team is headed

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Speaker 1: in the wrong direction. That's coming up next on Fox

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Speaker 1: Live from the Tyraq dot Com studios. But first for

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Speaker 1: all your sports is the man himself, Martin Weiss.

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Speaker 10: Let's go to Texas. Start quarterback case Keenum c J.

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Speaker 10: Strouds still in concussion protocol. They'll also be with that

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Speaker 10: wide receiver Nico Collins, but Noah Brown is expected to

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Speaker 10: play despite disney injury. They played the Tennessee Titans. Tampa

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Speaker 10: Bay Buccaneers expecting wide receiver Chris Godwin have played through

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Speaker 10: a knee versus the Packers. Chris o'lave for the New

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Speaker 10: Orleans Saints will be a game time decision as they

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Speaker 10: take on the Giants.

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Speaker 8: Darren Waller will play for the Giants.

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Speaker 10: Jamal Williams, Taysom Hill, Verheed Shaheed Rashid Shahid excuse me

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Speaker 10: for the Saints all expected to be full gos in

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Speaker 10: that game.

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Speaker 8: Cowboys versus the Bills.

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Speaker 10: Brandon Cooks is expected to play for the Cowboys up

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Speaker 10: in Ochred Park. The Rams expecting Aaron Donald to play

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Speaker 10: against the Commanders. Wide receiver two two at Well will

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Speaker 10: not He's still in concussion protocol. Cardinals wide receivers Marquise

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Speaker 10: Brown Michael Wilson both expected to go in the divisional

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Speaker 10: matchup against the forty nine Ers. Chicago expects Dj Moore

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Speaker 10: to play through an ankle injury against the stout Cleveland.

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Speaker 10: Brown's defense and scores from yesterday, the Lions beat the

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Speaker 10: Broncos forty two to seventeen. Jared goff at five touchdown passes,

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Speaker 10: three of them to Sam Laporta. Steelers are down bad.

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Speaker 10: They've lost. He wore the last five games. They lost

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Speaker 10: yesterday thirty to thirteen. Despite taking a thirteen to nothing

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Speaker 10: lead in the second quarter, Gardner Minshew, you had another

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Speaker 10: backup like you guys were talking about earlier.

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Speaker 8: He had three touchdown passes.

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Speaker 10: Cincinnati won an overtime against Minnesota, the game you guys

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Speaker 10: were just talking about, twenty seven to twenty four. Bengals

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Speaker 10: trailed for the majority of the game until t Higgins

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Speaker 10: caught the game tiny touchdown pass in a highlight you've

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Speaker 10: got to see in the final minute of regulation. Jamar

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Speaker 10: Chase left that game with a shoulder injury. In the

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Speaker 10: NBA last night, the Pistons lost their twenty third consecutive game,

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Speaker 10: one forty six to one fourteen at the Milwaukee Bucks.

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Speaker 10: And you know what you say that Giannis had his

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Speaker 10: kids on the bench in the middle of the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 10: so it was not only his brother on the bench,

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Speaker 10: also his kids as a family affair for the ante

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Speaker 10: the compos over there, But this score worse the Philadelphia

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Speaker 10: seventy six ers. They won one thirty five to eighty

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Speaker 10: two at Charlotte's Joel NB. Yeah, that's right, one thirty

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Speaker 10: five to eighty two and beat had forty two points

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Speaker 10: in that. Golden State won a game against Brooklyn one

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Speaker 10: twenty four to one twenty step Curry had thirty seven

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Speaker 10: and the Clippers won their seventh straight game one forty

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Speaker 10: four to one twenty two.

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Speaker 8: Over the Knicks.

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Speaker 10: College football ball season yesterday Ucla, Fresno State, Apalasia State,

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Speaker 10: Jacksonville State, and Ohio University all victorious, and then the

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Speaker 10: NHL at two over.

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Speaker 1: Time wait time out? What was that Ohio University? Is

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Speaker 1: that something connected to you? But the way you said

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Speaker 1: that you went.

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Speaker 8: There, No, they just won, that's all you got.

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Speaker 1: Really excited to Ohio Universities.

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Speaker 8: I thought no sound to throw my voice, but y'all

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Speaker 8: say this.

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Speaker 10: I am connected to Jacksonville State as a fan of

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Speaker 10: Rich Rodriguez, who coached Mia alma mater University of Michigan.

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Speaker 10: They defeated Louisiana and the New Orleans ball A Stadium.

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Speaker 10: I've been in several times a super Dome thirty four

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Speaker 10: to thirty one.

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Speaker 8: There you go back to you guys, Bucky and Andy, there

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Speaker 8: you go.

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Speaker 1: All in each his time. That's right around the corner.

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Speaker 1: He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Form And this is Fox

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Speaker 1: because we're going to have asked Bucky in about seven

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Speaker 1: eight minutes from now, I want to go back to

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Speaker 1: this Giants Saints game today. If I may now not

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Speaker 1: so much about the game because the Giants, as I say,

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Speaker 1: has won three straight. What does this do now for

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones? The Giants put a big contract in front

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Speaker 1: of his face prior to the season. Is he going

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Speaker 1: to be the guy now? Or is Tommy Cutlers the quarterback?

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Speaker 7: No, Daniel Jones will be the guy, but I do

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Speaker 7: think it will make everyone look at Daniel Jones a

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Speaker 7: little differently because the same players that Daniel Jones was

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Speaker 7: struggling with. Somehow Tommy DeVito has this team playing and

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Speaker 7: it just make the coaches in the front office just

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Speaker 7: trying to figure out, like what was going on early

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Speaker 7: in the year. Is it an execution thing? Is it

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Speaker 7: of the veto as they compared to Daniel Jones. I

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Speaker 7: think all those things in play. The decision to Giants

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Speaker 7: really have to make though, is with only one more

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Speaker 7: year left on Daniel Jones deal, Jones coming off an

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Speaker 7: ACL injury, what does that do for his long term future?

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Speaker 7: You haven't really seen enough from him to then go

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Speaker 7: back and make another long term commitment. So do you

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Speaker 7: take a quarterback in the draft if it's available, do

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Speaker 7: you bypass that? Those are the things that you have

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Speaker 7: to talk about, because signing him to another deal is

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Speaker 7: going to put him in the fifty million dollar category.

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Speaker 7: And I don't know if anybody look, not many people

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Speaker 7: know no one sees him as a fifty million dollar quarterback.

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Speaker 7: So you have to start making some decisions about that,

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Speaker 7: and that will impact the way you go about doing

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Speaker 1: Right and there's another team in New York that has

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Speaker 1: a quarterback question as well, and that's going to be

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Speaker 1: the Jets. They're playing the Dolphins today. There's no contest

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Speaker 1: they at Dolphins in rolling today. But Zack Wilson came

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Speaker 1: and two touchdowns, first time in his three year career

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Speaker 1: he's exceeded three hundred yards in a win as the

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Speaker 1: Jets upset the Texans thirty to six. So Zach Wilson

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Speaker 1: is like a yo yo back and forth. But what

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Speaker 7: Today? Draft?

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Speaker 1: Although I read yesterday that Aaron Rodgers is going to

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Speaker 1: be ready to play Aaron Rodgers. That's an amazing story

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, two amazing stories. So let's talk about Zach Wilson first.

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Speaker 7: Zack Wilson having a three hundred yard day looking like

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Speaker 7: I have questions. I have questions as to where has

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Speaker 7: he's talented enough to do it. What have what has

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Speaker 7: To me is a damning indictment on the coaches, So

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Speaker 7: that that conversation should be really prickly between Woody Johnson

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Speaker 7: you know, because if he can play normally, you want

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Speaker 7: to put him out there. They're kind of on the

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Speaker 7: fringes of being playoff contenders because of that. Today's game

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Speaker 7: means a lot if they go to six and eight

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Speaker 7: because they knock off the Miami Dolphins. Well, now that

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Speaker 7: So a lot of Aaron Rodgers' future probably hinges on

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Speaker 7: he's probably handing over his job to his mentor. Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: The question that I have, and maybe I'm way out

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Speaker 1: Rodgers went through to get him back so quickly. His

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Speaker 1: I would think that there's many athletes right now, not

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Speaker 1: got that injury, would love to see Aaron Rodgers doctor

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Speaker 1: what kind of procedure he had. And I don't think

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Speaker 7: Oh? No, it's top secret. It's been locked away in

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Speaker 7: the vault. Why is none of us none of us

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Speaker 7: know what Aaron Rodgers did to put himself in a

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Speaker 7: I think Aaron is the only one who's been able

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Speaker 7: But if he comes back and he comes back and plays,

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Speaker 7: I won't even say he plays well. But if he

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Speaker 7: of put themselves in a position to be able to

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Speaker 7: be not only a season injury, but almost a career

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Speaker 7: ender when it comes to it.

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Speaker 1: Right, Because normally when a guy got surgery being on

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Speaker 1: his knee, whatever it may be, they say they go

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Speaker 1: to a special surgeon being in La or sometimes they

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Speaker 1: go to that down in George, I think the big

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Speaker 1: medical clinic down there, and you always hear about that.

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Speaker 1: But this Aaron Rodgers thing has been real quiet. You

656
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Speaker 1: don't hear a thing, and you would think maybe his

657
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Speaker 1: doctor would come out to help his own cause for business,

658
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Speaker 1: perhaps saying like I did this, but and it's a

659
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Speaker 1: situation where you could get back quickly if other athletes

660
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Speaker 1: want to come here. Nothing not a thing. So it

661
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Speaker 1: is kind of strange, really, but who knows what it is.

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Speaker 1: I think you're right though. Once he does get on

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Speaker 1: the field and he looks good, everybody's going to want

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Speaker 1: to say, hey, Aaron, where'd you go and how'd you

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Speaker 1: get it done?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, everyone is going to want to know. Everyone will

668
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Speaker 7: want to know what did he do, how did he

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Speaker 7: do it? What's the treatment? I mean, we've heard about

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Speaker 7: like alternative medicine in those things. In obviously, with his

671
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Speaker 7: lifestyle and what he does, it certainly wasn't a traditional

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Speaker 7: procedure that he underwell. Will be people who kind of

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Speaker 7: poke around and go to the player directly to see

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Speaker 7: what he did.

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Speaker 1: Right. Let's move here quickly to the Texans Titans. That

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Speaker 1: Titan game last week where will Love us a quarterback,

677
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Speaker 1: came back to beat Green Bay at the end. It

678
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Speaker 1: was a pretty exciting ball game last week. CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 1: is in a concussion protocol but not ruled out. I

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Speaker 1: think he's going to Playtate the last I heard that

681
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Speaker 1: he's probably going to play today. Texans Titans, Texans still

682
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Speaker 1: looking for a playoff spot, although there's slumping of late

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Speaker 1: seven and six. I think they have enough to beat

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Speaker 1: the Titans right now. They've banged up, but I think

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Speaker 1: they have enough to beat to beat them today.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, this is interesting because CJ. Stroud. Yeah, CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 7: doesn't play case Keenum is up and we've seen kse

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Speaker 7: Keenham play a lot of games. The veteran does understand

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Speaker 7: how to get a team to a winner circle. The

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Speaker 7: thing that you wondered about, do the Texans have enough

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Speaker 7: weapons to be able to go and you know they

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Speaker 7: are beat up and everybody's beat up right now, so no,

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Speaker 7: this this would be a very difficult and challenging game

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Speaker 7: for the Texans that they have to take on look

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Speaker 7: a tough division rival conference roll without their QB one

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Speaker 7: at four strength if he even plays.

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Speaker 1: And last, but not least, the Packers are at home

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Speaker 1: against the Buccaneers. However, Packers were shocked last week Monday Night.

699
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Speaker 1: There was to the Giants twenty four to twenty two.

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Speaker 1: The Bucks beat Atlanta and Carolina. They're looking for three

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Speaker 1: straight right now. The Bucks six and seven package at

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Speaker 1: six and seven, both you know, pushing for playoff possibilities,

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Speaker 1: but I think Packers, being at home and coming off

704
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Speaker 1: that loss, I think they have enough to beat them.

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Speaker 1: They got some rough spots there, but I think that

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Speaker 1: the Packers just have more talent than Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 7: The Packers may have more talent, but now you got

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Speaker 7: to figure out why did they lay that a stinker

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Speaker 7: on Monday night. I mean, everything was lining up for

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Speaker 7: them to kind of get back into the division. So

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Speaker 7: Matt Lafloor and those guys that have answers, I'm with

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Speaker 7: you on this. I think they will play better, but

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna lean the other way with the Bucks over

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Speaker 7: the path.

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman.

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Speaker 1: Are we ready? Let's go? It's Bucky time? All right, buggy?

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Speaker 1: Is it fair to say? And you played the game

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Speaker 1: so you could tell me if it's fair or not

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Speaker 1: that the Chargers quit Thursday night against the radio is

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Speaker 1: when the radios rolled up some sixty plus points against them.

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Speaker 1: Did they quit?

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Speaker 11: Uh?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say the players quit. The players no

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Speaker 7: longer believe in Brandon Staley, and that is reflective in

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Speaker 7: their effort. You have to not try to give up

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Speaker 7: forty two points and a half like they did, meaning

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Speaker 7: you have to just hey man, we don't care. We're

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Speaker 7: gonna let it happen the player. The NFL is not

743
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Speaker 7: a set up for teams to score like that, and

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Speaker 7: they they kind of checked out on their coach and

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Speaker 7: only he knows what was going on in the locker room.

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Speaker 7: But they certainly didn't bring the effort that you would

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Speaker 7: expect of the NFL team.

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Speaker 1: And Brandon Staley really and truly kind of created his

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Speaker 1: own death now several weeks ago after a loss, saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we lost, I still believe in myself, but we haven't

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Speaker 1: been blown out yet, and boom, what happens they get

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Speaker 1: blown Maybe the player's heard that, Oh so, oh we're

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Speaker 1: not blown out yet, we're gonna get blown out, So

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Speaker 1: you could get blown out. Maybe that's what they did.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think they necessarily played a part. A

756
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 7: couple of factors came in place. The Charges didn't bring

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Speaker 7: great effort, and then you had a Raiders team that

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Speaker 7: was shut out the week before, so they were motivated.

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Speaker 7: They were on a national stage. Antonio Peers knew this

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Speaker 7: is the time for the world to see him as

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Speaker 7: a coach, so he had his team ready and they

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Speaker 7: took advantage of a team that wanted no parts of

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Speaker 7: being engaged in the street fight on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Patrick Mahons caught back on the Chiefs. He ripped

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Speaker 1: the officials after the Chiefs lost to Buffalo last week.

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Speaker 1: But the Chiefs really have a lot more problems than

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Speaker 1: the official don't you agree.

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Speaker 7: They do? I think what you're seeing from Pat Mahomes

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Speaker 7: and Andy Reid. Their frustration is being directed at the

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Speaker 7: wrong people. So they're frustrated with the referees and what's

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Speaker 7: going on outside of it, when they really should be

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Speaker 7: frustrated with the receivers and their inconsistencies, because that's really

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Speaker 7: what's bogged down this offense. Look, two years ago they

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Speaker 7: got rid of Tyreek Hill, and they haven't replaced them.

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Speaker 7: They won a Super Bowl, but since that point they

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Speaker 7: certainly haven't had the same kind of explosive output on

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Speaker 7: offense that you we've gone accustomed to seeing from Kansas City,

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Speaker 7: and a lot of that falls on the pass catchers.

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Speaker 1: Okay, how surprised were you yesterday? I read that Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid got fined one hundred thousand dollars and Mahomes got

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Speaker 1: fined fifty thousand dollars for their outbursts after the game

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Speaker 1: last week.

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Speaker 7: Uh, not surprised, because the league doesn't want players and

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Speaker 7: coaches like taking shots at referees. It's hard, the game

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Speaker 7: is hard to officiate. They have more eyes on them,

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Speaker 7: and so everyone understands their unders scrutiny. But what you

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Speaker 7: don't want is attack from inside out. You can control

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Speaker 7: that when you're the commissioner. So that's why they levied

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Speaker 7: these big fines for players and coaches that say bad

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Speaker 7: things about the officials.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Howie Long on this podcast this week said

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Speaker 1: he does want to see Bill Belichick coach the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about that.

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Speaker 7: He does not want to see him coaching Charges? I

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Speaker 7: can agree. I don't know if that would be like

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Speaker 7: a great fit between Bill Belichick and the spanos Is

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Speaker 7: and the Charges because one thing that we do know, man,

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Speaker 7: people can say whatever they want to about Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 7: like post Tom Brady, Bill Belichick is still one of

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Speaker 7: the greatest coaches that we've ever seen in this league.

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Speaker 7: And he has a structure and a system and the

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Speaker 7: weight meaning the confidence of the players that if he

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Speaker 7: goes in there, he's gonna want changes. But to get that,

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Speaker 7: you're gonna have to pay. And I don't know if

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Speaker 7: the Charges want to fully pay for Bill Belichick to

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Speaker 7: do all the things he had with the new he

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Speaker 7: would need to do to kind of fix the organization.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Do you agree that there's a new balance

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Speaker 1: of power in the NFL East and the power is

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, America's team.

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, America's team is much is much better. It's improved.

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Speaker 7: Mike McCarthy took over as play calling and what he's

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Speaker 7: been able to do offensively, he does a better job

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Speaker 7: of complimenting the defense. They play a different style, they

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Speaker 7: are more physical team, and so it's working now. The

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Speaker 7: proof is in the pudding. We won't know until they

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Speaker 7: play some of these high end teams in games that matter,

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Speaker 7: but right now they absolutely have kind of taken the

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Speaker 7: power from the phillyd For Eagles at the top of

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Speaker 7: the NFC East.

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Speaker 1: Amazing. I mean McCarthy right now. About a year or

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Speaker 1: so ago they were saying he's gone, it's finished, and

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Speaker 1: now he could be Coach of the Year. Who knows

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Speaker 1: about that, But he's Bucky Brooks on Andy Furman and

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Speaker 1: this team no longer in the league. That's next on

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Speaker 1: Fox Football Sunday. The old Man gets the nod. That's

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Speaker 1: coming right up. This is Fox Football Sunday. He's Bucky

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Speaker 1: he is, mister football himself, Bucket Brooks Now, I if

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Speaker 1: I may, mister Brooks, I want to be formal right now.

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Speaker 1: Can I get a little personal with you? May I?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, sure, Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 1: I know you played the game for five years in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League, and I'm in awe about that.

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Speaker 1: But number two, you scout for the Jacksonville Jaguars, and

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Speaker 1: they've lost two straight games, and last week you went

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Speaker 1: to Cleveland to watch them lose thirty one to twenty

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Speaker 1: seven to the Browns. I want to know. Obviously, I

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Speaker 1: would assume you went with them on the team plane.

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Speaker 7: Correct I did not? I try?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, that ruins everything.

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Speaker 7: No, it doesn't. But what do you want to know?

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Speaker 7: Because I'm I'm in the.

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Speaker 1: I want to know what it was like from that

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Speaker 1: plane ride back from Cleveland to Jacksonville.

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Speaker 7: Two Straws, Well, I can tell you like the feeling

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00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 7: around town, the filling around the building has been one

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00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 7: where a look man's prickley. It's a little contentious, there's

854
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Speaker 7: a little disappointment, there's a little anxiety about what's next,

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Speaker 7: and there's this feeling of, well, why haven't we played

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Speaker 7: well like a team with all this promise and potential?

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Speaker 7: Why have we met that potential? And so some of

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Speaker 7: it is on like the players, some of us on

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Speaker 7: the coaches, like they just haven't gotten on the same page.

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Speaker 7: And what took place in that game against the Browns,

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Speaker 7: it's kind of microcosm of the season miscommunication issues. So

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Speaker 7: you have guys who are not getting lined up right,

863
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 7: guys who aren't playing the right call, Guys who are

864
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 7: busting coverage because they don't know what the call is.

865
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 7: You have a bunch of pre snap penalties, things where

866
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 7: you're just not locked in and focused, line up in

867
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 7: the neutral zone, false start penalties because you don't know

868
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 7: to snap count and those things. And the other part

869
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 7: that really is the number one part, you turn the

870
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 7: ball over. You know, you can't have three interceptions and

871
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 7: a fumble and think that you're going to win games.

872
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 7: And so the Jaguars before I can even say that,

873
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 7: other teams are beating them. And some of this is

874
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 7: sound coach speak. They're beating themselves. They're beating themselves by

875
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 7: giving away games on things that they can really control.

876
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 7: You can control what the communication is. You can control

877
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 7: taking care of the ball for the best part, and

878
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 7: you can control whether you have like these little issues

879
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 7: that lead to free big plays for the opposition. If

880
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,959
Speaker 7: they eliminate those things, then it'd be tough for teams

881
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 7: to beat them. And you begin to see the team

882
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 7: that a lot of people were touting as a team

883
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 7: that can make a deep postseason run.

884
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: Right, And it doesn't get any easy because tonight they're

885
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: hosting the pull them a Ravens at ten and three Ravens.

886
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: So they got their work cutout for There's no doubt

887
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: about that. So see what happens.

888
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, But sometimes, but sometimes Markey games bring out the

889
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 7: best performance in you. I mean, you know what I'm saying, Like,

890
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 7: sometimes I have to being embarrassed like they were embarrassed

891
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 7: in Cleveland. You turn around, you have all eyes on you.

892
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 7: On a Sunday night game against a team that everyone

893
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 7: is going to favor because they're a no more team

894
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 7: in the AFC. It could be a good wake up

895
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 7: call and what I call a launching pad game for

896
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 7: the Jacks to have a lot of success. Right.

897
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think there's any surprise with the

898
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: way fans are, and even media people how fickle they

899
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: can be. We said, we mentioned this a little earlier

900
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: today about the Mike McCarthy thing about a year or

901
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: so ago that says his last year with Dallas, he's

902
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: going to get canned. Now we could be getting some

903
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: votes for Coach of the Year with the Dallas Cowboys.

904
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: So I ask you, right now, as we speak today,

905
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: which is the seventeenth of December, what coaches do you

906
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: honestly think might very well be on the hot seat.

907
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: We're not surprised with Brandon Staley. We thought he was

908
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: going to be canned anyway, so it came sooner than later.

909
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: But honestly, what other coaches do you think may very

910
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: well be on the hot seat?

911
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 7: I think Brandon stated was one Ron Rivera in Washington

912
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 7: another that look, I think that situation playing out the

913
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 7: way it played out, that's gonna put him in jeopardy.

914
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 7: Dennis Allen down in New Orleans, given how they were

915
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 7: supposed to kind of romp through this division, but their

916
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 7: new quarterback, Derek Carr, I think he's in jeopardy. In

917
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 7: the AFC East, Robert solid will probably have a conversation

918
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 7: with Widdy Johnson at the end of the season that

919
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 7: could result in his dismissal. Outside of that, I would

920
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 7: say there's always a surprise. You know, Bill Belichick is

921
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 7: going to have a conversation, but there's always one that

922
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 7: tends to come out of the left field. So I

923
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 7: don't know which one that is, but there's always a

924
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 7: surprise that kind of leaves the football world in a tizzy.

925
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 7: But yeah, I would think you're always gonna see seven

926
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 7: or eight each year turned over because that's just kind

927
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 7: of what's been going on in our league.

928
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 1: I would say that Belichick, probably for all the reports

929
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: we've heard, will be parting way with the New England Patriots.

930
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: But I don't think we're going to see Belichick being

931
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: that group of coaches that got fired. What is that

932
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: Black Monday. I don't think he'll be on that day.

933
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: I think it'll be a different situation with him. He'll

934
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: just walk away and they'll have a new hiring wherever

935
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: he may go, although he may very well stay in

936
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: New England. What do you think about that?

937
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 7: Look, man, I think when you've won like he's won,

938
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 7: because it's unprecedented level of dominance that he had in

939
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 7: New England, six titles and twenty plus years, no one

940
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 7: has done that. I think you need to be careful

941
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 7: when you move on from that, because there's no guaranteed

942
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 7: that the next coach is going to bring that kind

943
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 7: of that level of success. The other thing I think

944
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 7: you have to do when you're a Robert Kraft and

945
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 7: you're a Patriots fan, Let's look around the league and

946
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 7: see how many teams have won to that degree. There

947
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 7: have only been two others. The San Francisco forty nine

948
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 7: is in the Pittsburgh Steelers. When was the last time

949
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 7: the Pittsburgh Steelers won a Super Bowl? You know, when's

950
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 7: the last time the San Francisco forty nine Ers have

951
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 7: won a Super Bowl? And so if you think about

952
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 7: it in those terms, you recognize how special it was

953
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 7: that he wanted that. And I think you've probably been

954
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 7: a little more reluctant to move off of him because

955
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 7: he has shown you that he can win it, and

956
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 7: win it at a high level when he has the

957
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 7: pieces in place to be able to do it.

958
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: You're exactly And speaking of coaches, the Panthers today were

959
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: one and twelve. They're hosting the Atlanta Falcons six and seven,

960
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 1: and you talk about the Carolina offense. I don't see

961
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: any change, any life, for any signs of life or improvement.

962
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: After they fired their head coach, Frank Wright, I don't

963
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: see it. I mean, maybe they just don't have the talent.

964
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: Maybe they don't have the right coach. I don't know

965
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: what the deal is, but firing a coach, I guess

966
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: the ownership thought like, well, fire the coach, all of

967
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: a sudden, we're going to magically turn it around. They

968
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: one to twelve. I don't see anything happening to this

969
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: ball club.

970
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 7: No, nothing has happened to the ball club. And part

971
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 7: of the reason nothing has happened is because you have

972
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 7: a hodgepodge of systems that were put together when this

973
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 7: team hired their coaching staff. David Tepper won an All

974
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 7: star team of coaches on offense. He wanted guys from

975
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 7: different systems, put them together, let them have a think take,

976
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 7: and they can come up with a super offense on

977
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 7: paper that looks great and reality. It is really hard

978
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 7: to do because if I come from a West Coast

979
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 7: system looks Shinnahan Tree, you come from a different system,

980
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 7: maybe I mean one that is a little more traditional,

981
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 7: a little more air corel. It's hard to mail those

982
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 7: things together. And when you have so many different coaches,

983
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 7: it's hard to get on the same page because what

984
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 7: happens under pressure, you tend to go back to your

985
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 7: natural behaviors. Well, when you have a bunch of different

986
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 7: guys from a bunch of systems, what they want to

987
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 7: revert back to is the answers that they have and

988
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 7: the system that they were reared in. Because they're not together,

989
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 7: they're not on the same page. You have a lot

990
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 7: of finger pointing, a lot of what if, and we

991
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 7: should do this, and we should do that, and that

992
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 7: never works. You have to have complete alignment. Doesn't mean

993
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 7: you can't disagree at times, but you got to be

994
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 7: aligned in terms of philosophically how you see the game

995
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 7: and offensively, they're not and that's why you haven't seen

996
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 7: the success from the Panthers.

997
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: Well, the Falcons last week lost to Tampa Bay twenty

998
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: nine to twenty five, and that loss dropped them out

999
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: of the NFC South lead, and now they're in a

1000
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: wildcard slot. And look, I understand that some of these

1001
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: games are like death knells. They really are. I mean,

1002
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: you rather mow your lawn than go watch some of

1003
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: these games, but you have to omit one thing. It's

1004
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: kind of tight with this playoff situation right now. It's

1005
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: kind of bunched up and somewhat exciting. Although really and

1006
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: truly the games aren't that great. As I mentioned early

1007
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: on today, there were three games yesterday, but really and

1008
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: truly the only good game of worth with some drama

1009
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: was that Minnesota Cincinnati game. And that was the first one.

1010
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, so it's funny because the Minneati Minnesota

1011
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 7: Cincinnati game completely flipped seventeen three lead for the Vikings.

1012
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 7: Vikings somehow lose that game, lose the lead, Jake Browning

1013
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 7: gets hot, goes the overtime, very compelling game. Pittsburgh Still

1014
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 7: at Indianapolis Colts. Pittsburgh jumps out to a lead that

1015
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 7: you're thinking, oh man, okay, the still is in this

1016
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 7: in it. The game completely flips after mister Bisky through

1017
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 7: that interception, throwing it up to George Pickens that still

1018
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 7: has never had gained that momentum back gonna Misschew gets hot,

1019
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 7: the running game begins to take over and they blow

1020
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 7: the doors off to Pittsburgh Steel. It's a really surprising

1021
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 7: game and then last night what you saw was a

1022
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 7: very motivated and agitated Detroit Lions team that hasn't played

1023
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 7: well the last three games. People calling for Jared Goff's

1024
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 7: head all of a sudden, He's been great for a

1025
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 7: year and a half plus. Now they're seeing, look, he's

1026
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 7: a game manager, they need to replace him. This and that.

1027
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 7: He came back and played, and he played really, really well.

1028
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 7: That's just the nature the TA Beast and National Football League.

1029
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 7: Each and every week, you don't know what's going to happen,

1030
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 7: and the league has deliberately created a system where everyone

1031
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 7: is right around five hundred. So you have to tune

1032
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 7: in because look at the amount of teams that are

1033
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 7: in playoff contention, Andy, it's exactly what the league wants.

1034
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 7: Is only what one two teams that are eliminated, the

1035
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 7: Panthers and the Patriots. Everybody else has a chance. So

1036
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 7: that means everyone has to tune in. So the game

1037
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 7: play is not what we're used to seeing because we're

1038
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 7: used to seeing a handful of elite teams and then

1039
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 7: like the teams at the bottom are just terrible. Well,

1040
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 7: now you have teams that are right in the middle

1041
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 7: of the road, and that makes for more interest, even

1042
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 7: though the TV may not be as compelling.

1043
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: The one good thing about the Steeler game yes Day

1044
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: that I truly enjoyed is that at least Tomlin gave

1045
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: the opportunity for Mason Rudolph to play at the end.

1046
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: And I don't understand why Mason Rudolph has not gotten

1047
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: the better chance to play. I mean, I watched him

1048
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 1: play at Oklahoma State. He was a pretty good college quarterback.

1049
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you got to get the I mean, especially

1050
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: what's happened right now when you see guys like Josh Dobbs,

1051
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 1: when you see guys like Jake Browning, these guys getting

1052
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 1: chances that basically were passed over, Tommy DeVito, undrafted guys

1053
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: getting a shot to play and performing well. I don't

1054
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: know why Mason Rudolph has not gotten this shot.

1055
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 7: Look, He's had a shot a few different times to

1056
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 7: be the starting quarterback, like after Ben. There's something in

1057
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,919
Speaker 7: that he has done that hasn't and he hasn't endeared

1058
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 7: himself to the coaching staff in terms of believing that

1059
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 7: he could be a franchise quarterback. Whether it's the way

1060
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 7: that he performed when he got his opportunities a couple

1061
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 7: of years ago, whether it's the way that he handled them,

1062
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 7: bringing in new quarterbacks who either compete with him, he

1063
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 7: hasn't handled it well. That's why they've been very reluctant

1064
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 7: to hand him the ball. But he played a little

1065
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 7: bit at the end. I think it's probably a quarterback

1066
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 7: competition between he and mister Bisky. The can do start

1067
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 7: because what we've seen from Trubisky, the more he plays

1068
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 7: the warts. Yeah, the warts show up and they can't

1069
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 7: overcome it.

1070
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: You're exactly right.

1071
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1072
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: The Panthers team, which is one of twelve US mentioned

1073
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: last week, they outgained the New Orleans Saints three three

1074
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: to two seven in yards, but they didn't score a

1075
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: touchdown for the first time this season. They lost that

1076
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: game twenty eight to six. That's an amazing statistic, it

1077
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: really is, but unreal. The last winners in Week eight

1078
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: over the Texas fifteen to thirteen. Now we go to

1079
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: the Bears and the Browns. Brown's named Joe Flacco their

1080
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: quarterback for the rest of the season. Who would have

1081
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: thunk that. Really, he threw for three hundred and eleven yards

1082
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: three touchdowns in a thirty one to twenty seven I

1083
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: hate to say this to you, but it was over Jacksonville.

1084
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: How does that happen? You know, a guy like Joe Flacco,

1085
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: I mean, really and truly, a guy in the junkie

1086
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: really comes in there, throws for three to eleven. Is

1087
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: it because Jacksonville had no idea what he was going

1088
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: to do to It's no film on him. I don't

1089
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: understand how a guy like Flacco all of a sudden

1090
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: gets your second life.

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Speaker 7: Oh, it's what we talked about earlier when you asked

1092
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 7: me about Jake Browning and Tommy DeVito. It's fit in skim.

1093
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 7: Here's what you have to understand about Joe Flacco in Cleveland.

1094
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 7: Joe Flacco is playing under Kevin Stefanski, whose system is

1095
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 7: closely tied to Gary kubiak system. Well, go back to

1096
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 7: Joe Flacco's career. Joe flacco individual success. The most success

1097
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 7: he had was under Gary Kubiak. So now you put

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00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 7: him back in the system that I'll allowed him and

1099
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 7: helped him have his most success, You're seeing a different

1100
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 7: Joe Flacco. That's why Joe Flacco works in Cleveland. He

1101
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 7: knows the system, he knows the in and out, he

1102
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 7: knows how to solve the problems and he's comfortable. You

1103
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 7: get those things comfortability for knowledge, where when you're on

1104
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 7: the field, you know everything and can anticipate what's coming

1105
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 7: and have a ready made answer. That's why Joe Flacco

1106
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 7: works in Cleveland. It's because of familiarity with the system.

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Speaker 1: Okay, earlier in the season, I think it was like

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Speaker 1: in August, late August, when you were talking about the

1109
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: upcoming season, you did say the Browns would be the

1110
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: champs in that division. Hit the head right now with Baltimore,

1111
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: I still think that they have a better shot than

1112
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. I know they're eight and five and

1113
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: Baltimore is ten and three. I just believe I have

1114
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: more confidence in the Browns than the Ravens for some reason.

1115
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: I don't know why. But tell me I'm wrong.

1116
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 7: I'm not going to tell you you're wrong. I like the Browns.

1117
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 7: I like the Browns. I like the way they play defense.

1118
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 7: Me too, Yeah, Jim Schwartz has done a really good jobs.

1119
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 7: Not to take anything away from Baltimore. Baltimore's defense right there,

1120
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 7: they're one and two. It's different though, when I look

1121
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 7: at the Browns. The Browns have stars on their defensive front.

1122
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 7: In terms of Miles Garrett, Miles Garrett is a superstar.

1123
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 7: The Ravens don't present that. The Ravens are more a

1124
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 7: collection of good players playing in a scheme that really

1125
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,959
Speaker 7: elevates them because like they're asked to do things that work,

1126
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 7: and so obviously it can work. Cal Hamilton is a

1127
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 7: guy that kind of makes it go. Cleveland is different.

1128
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 7: The scheme is great, but they overwhelm you with their

1129
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 7: superior talent that helps offensively if they can run the

1130
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 7: football like they look, they have one of the best

1131
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 7: offensive lines of football when they're able to run the

1132
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 7: football and Joe Flacco gives them that complimentary play action

1133
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 7: passing element. Hard team to defend. Joe Flacco can't compare

1134
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 7: to Lamar Jackson, but consistency from the offensive approach, you

1135
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 7: might be able to buy into Cleveland a little more

1136
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 7: than Baltimore. We'll see, though, because right now to ten

1137
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 7: and three, this will be tonight be my first time

1138
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 7: to lay my eyes on them of close and personal.

1139
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 7: You may ask me after the game, I'm like, no,

1140
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 7: Baltimore is a class of the AFC. We'll see.

1141
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,000
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Speaker 1: the East Coast. Now a game that basically years ago

1169
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: you couldn't get a ticket to see the Chiefs of

1170
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Speaker 1: the Patriots. Now if you miss it, it's no big whoop.

1171
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Speaker 1: I don't think the Chiefs now have dropped two straight,

1172
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: which is amazing. I don't know the last time buck

1173
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: that They've just two in a row. They lost to

1174
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Speaker 1: Buffalo on Green Bay. They lost three of the last four,

1175
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Speaker 1: including the Philadelphia Eagles, and now their lead in the

1176
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,919
Speaker 1: AFC West. There's just one game. They're six and two

1177
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: against conference team teams. What is wrong? What's going on

1178
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Speaker 1: with the Chiefs? I say, maybe Tyreek Hill and maybe

1179
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: Eric b Enemy will be. The loss of those guys

1180
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: has hurt somewhat.

1181
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 7: Uh, yeah, obviously the loss of both of those guys.

1183
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 7: UH heard Tyreek Hill because he was a field stretcher, right,

1184
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 7: he could take the top off the defense. You had

1185
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 7: to account for him at all times. You had to

1186
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 7: put two on him. That loosen up the feel for

1187
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 7: everybody else, whether it's in the running game or confident receivers,

1188
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 7: so that loss certainly impacts them. He also was a

1189
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 7: big player who could a big playmaker, who could score

1190
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 7: from anywhere on the field. That changes a lot when

1191
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 7: it comes to defending the offense. Eric the Enemy's loss

1192
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 7: is subtle, but if you connect the dots between Washington

1193
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 7: very early. You remember in training camp the players that

1194
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 7: talked about him being too hard on them and holding

1195
00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 7: them accountable, and the details and those things. Well, when

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00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 7: I look at the Kansas City Chiefs and I think

1197
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 7: about Kadarius Tony lining up off sides some of the

1198
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 7: drops that have shown this year. Maybe I'm not saying

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Speaker 7: that Eric could wipe away all of that, but if

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00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 7: you have maybe a higher level of attention to detail,

1201
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 7: maybe those things disappear. I think this will be a

1202
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 7: situation where everyone may have appreciation for Tyreek killing Eric

1203
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 7: p enemy now that they're gone and this offense has suffered.

1204
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 7: Then before they're averaging ten points less per game than

1205
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 7: they did with their beginnemy his last season ten points.

1206
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 7: That's significant, significant drop off, and some of that is

1207
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 7: due to the offensive coordinator being gone.

1208
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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because I think that defensively, the

1209
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: Patriots could probably handle the Chiefs offense or a lot thereof.

1210
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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. If Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs

1211
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: get up to a big start and a bit of

1212
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: a lead, Patriots can't play from behind. That's the key

1213
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 1: right there. Their offense is terrible. Although Bailly's out he

1214
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: led the Patriots to an upset over the Steelers last Thursday.

1215
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Speaker 1: But now as I look at the Steelers, maybe it

1216
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: wasn't so much of an upset.

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Speaker 7: Maybe not. They're not playing great, but no, you only

1218
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 7: can take those games at the time. At the time

1219
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 7: it was a great win. It's a big upset. But yeah,

1220
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Speaker 7: they don't look the Steelers don't look great, and the

1221
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 7: Patriots have played better. I want to say, they've had

1222
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 7: but five games decided about under seven points or less.

1223
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 7: Like they've lost a lot of tight games. So even

1224
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 7: as bad as it looks, it's really not that bad

1225
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 7: when it comes to how they're quote unquote playing.

1226
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Speaker 1: You know what's amazing, you bring that up. I'm gonna

1227
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Speaker 1: look at the scores right now. Even the first game

1228
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Speaker 1: of the season they lost to the Eagles twenty five

1229
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: to twenty. And moving along there, Dallas was a blowout.

1230
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Speaker 1: That was a thirty eight three New Orleans that was ugly,

1231
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: thirty four zip Vegas twenty one to seventeen. But then

1232
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Speaker 1: they came back. They beat Buffalo by four nine twenty five.

1233
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Speaker 1: They lose to Miami that was bad, thirty one to seventeen.

1234
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: But then the Washington loss was a bad one twenty seventeen.

1235
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: Indianapolis lost a bad one, ten to six. That was

1236
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Speaker 1: bad Giants.

1237
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Speaker 7: But look at those swords you're talking about, like yeah,

1238
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 7: ten seven, ten, six, ten, This like three points four points,

1239
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 7: three points four points. And when you're looking at those losses,

1240
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 7: you said, a defense that only gave up ten points

1241
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 7: lost the game. So, like Bill Belichick hasn't lost his fastball.

1242
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 7: The defense is still playing well. The thing that you

1243
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 7: may do when we talk about Belichick back in the

1244
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 7: previous conversation about firing him well on the field, he's

1245
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 7: still as masterful as ever when it comes to doing

1246
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 7: what it does well on defense. The offense has been

1247
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 7: an issue and then maybe the overall talent of the

1248
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 7: team has been an issue, so maybe you take and

1249
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 7: try and find solutions in those areas. Hey, let's bring

1250
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 7: you someone who can help you with the personnel. Take

1251
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 7: that off your plate. Let's make sure offensively we got

1252
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 7: the right court. Josh mcdames out there, let's say pay it,

1253
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 7: bring him back, because the offense looks different when he's

1254
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 7: around those things. That's why I say be careful about

1255
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 7: kicking him all the way out. Maybe it needs a tweak,

1256
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 7: not a complete termasion.

1257
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Speaker 1: You're exactly right. That Charger game was all good. A

1258
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: six to nothing Charger game was really ugly, So we'll

1259
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Speaker 1: see what happens there. But I just don't think they

1260
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: got the firepower offensively to be Kansas City and Kansas City. Yeah,

1261
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Speaker 1: and look, you played the game. Is it a big

1262
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: deal or is it just father for idiots like me

1263
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: to talk behind the microphone like they're fired up now

1264
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: because they lost two straight and two out of the

1265
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Speaker 1: last or three out of the last four. Does that

1266
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: make a difference or they just put that in the

1267
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: back closet and they just go out and play.

1268
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Speaker 7: So there's something to it. I would say not they're

1269
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 7: fired or ready to play. There's more urgency when you

1270
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 7: start losing games, there's an urgent. There's an urgency and

1271
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 7: intensity that changes. That can change in the locker room

1272
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 7: in terms of wanting to get back on track. Some

1273
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 7: of that is coach induced, where coaches begin to kind

1274
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 7: of prod the players, Hey, we gotta have more effort,

1275
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 7: more testy detail, you got to play better. Start making changes.

1276
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 7: That gets people attention. Some of it is surprise thing.

1277
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,919
Speaker 7: Were you embarrassed that you've lost to your last couple

1278
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 7: of games and you know, look, this is not how

1279
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 7: we play. Let's get back to basics. You hear coaches

1280
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 7: always talk about let's get back to basis because sometimes

1281
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 7: when you're winning, you just keep adding on and the

1282
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 7: great teams they subtract, they cut down what's on the menu.

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Speaker 7: They want to make sure that a streamlines so everyone

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Speaker 7: knows exactly what they're doing and how to do it

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Speaker 7: so they can play. Well, maybe they decide to get

1286
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Speaker 7: back to that. Maybe that's how you're able to kind

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Speaker 7: of win and get back on track, and you keep

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Speaker 7: winning by staying simple inefficient.

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Speaker 1: Well, I remember back in the day, Bucket Brooks, when

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Speaker 1: a team would lose. A coach would basically go to

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Speaker 1: the podium and point the finger at a certain player,

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Speaker 1: like if Bucket Brooks would have made this play, we

1293
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Speaker 1: would have won the game. With things like that, now

1294
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Speaker 1: coaches are afraid to get involved by picking up players.

1295
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, and they'll go with the podium. They'll say, oh,

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Speaker 1: this loss is on me, this loss is on me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, well it can't always be on you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it'll be refreshing to see a

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Speaker 1: coach do that. But I think in this day and age,

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Speaker 1: they're afraid. I think coaches are afraid to single out players.

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Speaker 1: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 7: You can call them out, you just gotta be careful.

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01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 7: You gotta be careful calling people out and the pressor

1304
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 7: because what that does is that brings other stuff into it. Right,

1305
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 7: so now you have every reporter going to the player

1306
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 7: in a locker room scrum, asking them directly about the

1307
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 7: coach's comments. You can call players out in team meetings

1308
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 7: when it's just the team, you know, because then you

1309
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 7: don't have to worry about the other stuff. I think

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Speaker 7: when you do when you when you do it publicly,

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Speaker 7: what you do is you kind of put a poor

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01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 7: poor little gasoline on the fire. You take a situation

1313
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 7: that is, you can escalate the situation internally. So you

1314
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 7: want to protect the players in public, but you want

1315
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 7: to call them out and be very clear and direct.

1316
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 7: And you can call and protect them in public, but

1317
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 7: you want to call them out in private.

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Speaker 1: Forty nine Ers playing the Cardinals, I hear what you're saying.

1319
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: Forty nine Ers first team to clinch a playoff birth.

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01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: They got wins against the Eagles forty two nineteen, wins

1321
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys forty two to ten, and now they're

1322
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: in a new number one seed in the NFC playoffs standings.

1323
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: Cardinals are two and two before the bye week and

1324
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: the two and two since Kyler Murray has returned. And

1325
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: perhaps maybe Kyler Murray is going to be their quarterback

1326
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Speaker 1: going on from here. Who knows. In week number I

1327
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: think was the week number three or four they played.

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Speaker 1: I think it was week number four they played the

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01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers in they lost thirty five sixteen. I

1330
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: don't see much of a difference today, but Kyler Murray

1331
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: has made a difference, and will he remain with that

1332
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: Arizona team?

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Speaker 7: I think though? When you know, I find a conversation.

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01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 7: Fascinating when people talk about moving on from Cayler Murray,

1335
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 7: even justin fields. I mean, Caller Murray's situation is different

1336
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 7: because you're locked in. You're the Arizona Cardinals. You've paid

1337
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 7: a lot of money, you got a lot of dead

1338
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 7: cap charges that would be associated to moving on from

1339
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 7: cal Murray because you want a new shiny tour in

1340
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 7: either Caleb Williams or Drake May. And let's be honest,

1341
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 7: like no one ever talks about the evaluation. Are we

1342
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 7: sure that those players are gonna better players than Caler

1343
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Speaker 7: Murray or any of the quarterbacks that we currently have.

1344
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Speaker 7: I don't know if a lot of people have really

1345
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 7: studied and evaluated the quarterbacks enough to really know where

1346
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 7: they stack up. I think we get used to just

1347
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 7: saying Caleb Williams and saying Drake May without conducting a

1348
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 7: deep dive into how those players played their final season,

1349
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 7: because neither one of them played great their final seasons.

1350
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Speaker 1: You're exactly right, He's Bucky Brooks. He's always right, he

1351
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: really is. I'm Andy Furman. I just go along for

1352
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 1: the ride. This is Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Playoffs.

1353
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Speaker 1: Playoffs what's that. We'll explain all that next, but first,

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01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 1: Martin Weiss has all your sports, So.

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Speaker 10: Bucky, you were just talking about how the Patriots, you know,

1356
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 10: they had kept those margins close. They're actually the first

1357
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 10: team in eighty five years. Prior to beating the Steelers

1358
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 10: on Thursday Night, they were the first team to lose

1359
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 10: three straight games in which it allowed twenty six points combined.

1360
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 10: The last team to do it, the Chicago Cardinals, gave

1361
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 10: up twenty points during a three game loser streak in

1362
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 10: nineteen thirty eight.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I want to see that Lunatico did

1364
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Speaker 1: those statistics. I want to see who kept those records.

1365
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 1: Who's the guy that came out with that, some guy

1366
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: in a closet by himself for seven years. I want

1367
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Speaker 1: to see that he does that.

1368
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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's remarkable. I had to google. I knew it

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Speaker 8: was something in his story.

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Speaker 10: With eighty five years, the Chicago Cardinals, those teams, they

1371
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 10: didn't known play in Chicago anymore. They're in Arizona. Wild times.

1372
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Speaker 10: Now move forward to today, case Keenan will get to start.

1373
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 10: I know that sounds like a throwback. I promise you

1374
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 10: he'll be playing for the use of Texas, as c J.

1375
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 10: Stroud is in concussion protocol. The Texans will also be

1376
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 10: without wide receiver Nico Collins. Noah Brown expected to play

1377
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 10: through a knee injury. Houston plays Tennessee the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

1378
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 10: expecting wide receiver Chris Godwin and played through his knee

1379
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,919
Speaker 10: injury against the Packers. Chris o'lovic will be a game

1380
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,919
Speaker 10: time decision for the Saints. They take on the Giant

1381
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 10: later today. Darren Waller, Jamal Williams, Tasom Hill, Rashid Shaheed

1382
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 10: all expected to be full goals in that game. Brandon

1383
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 10: Cooks expected to play for the Cowboys. They have the

1384
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 10: Bills up in Orchard Park. Rams expecting Aaron Donald to

1385
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 10: go against the Commanders. To to add what will not

1386
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 10: still in concussion protocol, wide receivers Hollywood, Marquis Brown and

1387
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 10: Michael Wilson for this Arizona Cardinals aforementioned both will play

1388
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 10: today in the divisional matchup against the forty nine ers Chicago.

1389
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 10: The Bears this time expect Dj Moore to play through

1390
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 10: an ankle injury against the Cleveland Browns. And earlier today,

1391
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Speaker 10: I mean earlier yesterday. Rather, I'm sorry Cincinnati won an

1392
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 10: overtime against Minnesota twenty seven to twenty four. Jamar Chase

1393
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 10: left that one with the shoulder injury, waiting to see

1394
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 10: what the report is on that Bengals have won three

1395
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 10: straight under quarterback Jake Browning the Colts, they were down

1396
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 10: thirteen to nothing in the second quarter end up winning

1397
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 10: thirty to thirteen. Gardner Minshew three touchdown passes. Mitchell Tubisky,

1398
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 10: the backup quarterback for Pittsburgh, back up again as.

1399
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Speaker 8: Mason Rudolph ended up finishing the game. He got better.

1400
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Speaker 8: Pittsburgh has lost four of its last five, and.

1401
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 10: The Detroit Lions beat the Denver Broncos forty two to seventeen.

1402
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 10: Jared golf indoors that's a good recipe. Five touchdown passes,

1403
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 10: three to rookie tight end Sam Laporta and Jamier Gibbs

1404
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:14,799
Speaker 10: had one hundred yards rushing.

1405
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 8: I'm well enough to remember when people.

1406
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 10: Said you can't take a tight end of their running

1407
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 10: back in the first two rounds of the NFL draft. Well,

1408
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 10: they're helping them win games right now. Bucky and Andy,

1409
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 10: back to you guys, Thank you so much.

1410
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Speaker 1: Okay, you're going to be watching the league VP in

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Speaker 1: this game that's coming right up. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm

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Speaker 1: about six seven minutes from now. But we're gonna tell

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Speaker 1: about the Commanders at the Rams today. Commanders have lost

1419
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: four straight playoffs are a figment of their imagination right now.

1420
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 1: Rams lost to the Raves and this is crazy. Thirty

1421
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: seven thirty one and ot on that walk off punt

1422
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: return you talk about. I mean that was great, great drama,

1423
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: great watching that game. But that's a heartbreaker, it really is.

1424
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 1: But the Rams are still alive for an NFC playoff

1425
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 1: for us. But that lost last week that the Ravens

1426
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 1: with that walgull put re term is unreal. It really

1427
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: was unbelievable.

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01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 7: It was able, unbelievable play. A lot of penalties on

1429
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 7: that play that went on call, but it was unbelievable

1430
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 7: play for time on Wallace to be able to go

1431
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 7: and score and do all the things. The Rams are

1432
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 7: a very competitive team. Man, I tip my cap to

1433
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 7: Sean McVay for what he's been able to do with

1434
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 7: this squad. This is a squad d Look, they were resetting.

1435
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 7: The roster doesn't look like it's loaded with talent. But

1436
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 7: yet they're sitting right here, right on the edges the

1437
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 7: fringes of being able to get into the postseason. Uh,

1438
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 7: you give him a one game scenario where he can

1439
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 7: cook it up and come up with game plans. He's

1440
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 7: as good as anybody. A lot more appreciation and admiration

1441
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 7: for Sean mvay after watching the job that he's done

1442
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 7: this year.

1443
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 1: Right, And I tell you, right now, you've got to

1444
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: command this team that their defense is I mean almost

1445
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: four and a half yurds to carry. So if i'm

1446
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh, and look, I'm not an offensive coordinator, but

1447
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: I would help him if he asked me, I would say,

1448
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: you know what, put the ball in William's stomach and

1449
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: away you go, and you run, run, run, You run

1450
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: all over the commanders. That's what you do.

1451
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, they haven't. I mean they're not a really good

1452
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 7: team and they haven't played well. Rob Rivera took over

1453
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 7: the play calling duties at defensive coordinator. I don't know

1454
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 7: if it changes anything. They got rid of a couple

1455
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 7: of their top players, Montes sweat chaching. This team isn't

1456
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 7: going anywhere. And you talk about performances that could really

1457
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 7: be eye opening. We saw what happened with the Chargers

1458
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 7: on Thursday night when they just in essence, just gave up,

1459
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 7: just folded up the tents. The same thing can happen

1460
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 7: in Washington. The frustration just leads to like a just

1461
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 7: a disappointing performance that makes it clear and a parent

1462
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 7: that Ron Rivera can't get the job done in the

1463
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 7: nation's capitol.

1464
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Speaker 1: He'll be gone. He'll be gone. He'll be doing like

1465
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: TV or radio next year, no doubt about that. Now, Cowboy,

1466
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: we got a game. We finally got a game. Bill's

1467
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,759
Speaker 1: a seven and six. They're at home against the Dallas

1468
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: Cowboys ten and three. Cowboys have won six of seven.

1469
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 1: They're on a roll right now behind Dak Prescott, who

1470
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Speaker 1: may very well be the MVP coming out of nowhere.

1471
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott having a career year this year. But Buffalo

1472
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: got that must win against Kansas City last week twenty

1473
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 1: seventeen and Cowboys roll the Eagles. I was surprised with that.

1474
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: One thirty three thirteen Dak Prescott right now, twenty eight

1475
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: tds as opposed to six i nts. What a year. However,

1476
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 1: Dallas is five hundred on the road, undefeated against AFC.

1477
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 1: Now my question is this, do players know that? I

1478
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: mean here, these statistics are great for people like me

1479
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: that talk about this. You need father to talk about it.

1480
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: Does anybody really care that Dallas is five hundred on

1481
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: the road. The thing that I care about they've won

1482
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,040
Speaker 1: six out of seven and five in a row. So

1483
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 1: that's the big deal with the Dallas Cowboys. They're rolling

1484
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: right now, and they're on a roll. I think it

1485
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 1: doesn't make a difference if they played home, away or

1486
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 1: on the moon. They're gonna beat the Buffalo Bills today.

1487
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 7: I can see it. I mean, they're a good team.

1488
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 7: They found their way, they find an identity. This would

1489
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 7: be a big challenge for them. This is a good

1490
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:21,719
Speaker 7: Buffalo Bills team. It's a Buffalo Bill's team that's beginning

1491
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 7: to find their way. Joe Brady, Joe Brady has helped

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Speaker 7: this team. I'm kind of finding an identity on offense,

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Speaker 7: Sean McDermott continues to do a good job with the defense.

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Speaker 7: So it's a solid team for the Cowboys. It's a

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Speaker 7: test of their maturity if they're a playoff team, not

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Speaker 7: only playoff team, they're a super Bowl team, like we

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Speaker 7: talk about. Then they go on the road and they

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Speaker 7: find a way to take care of business. Hard to

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Speaker 7: win road games in the NFL, but the great teams,

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Speaker 7: the elite teams, that's what they do. So I'm looking

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Speaker 7: to see can we really tout this team as a

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01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 7: super Bowl team. And a lot of my ability to

1503
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,759
Speaker 7: talk about this will be center on how they perform

1504
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 7: against the Buffalo Bills well.

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01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 1: And the key to this game, I believe is not

1506
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: so much that Dak Prescott obviously he's got to play well.

1507
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 1: I think it's turnovers. And right now the Dallas Cowboys

1508
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: are among the leaders in the NFL and turnover differential,

1509
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 1: And we know, and you know as well as anybody else,

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01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: that that's the name of the game. You know, you

1511
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 1: could look at a box score after a game and

1512
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 1: the team that has more turnovers and their opposition, more

1513
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 1: often than not, they're going to lose that ball game.

1514
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: It's about turnovers. And right now, Buffalo started the season

1515
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: taking the ball away, but that has certainly slowed down

1516
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 1: over the last four or five weeks.

1517
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 7: It has slowing down over the last four or five weeks.

1518
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 7: They still can turn over the ball. And you know

1519
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 7: the thing about like the takeaways, you always live for them. Right,

1520
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 7: It's the biggest the side in factor in football. So

1521
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 7: you want to be a defense that takes the ball away. However,

1522
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 7: there's some randomness too how you get those turnovers. You know,

1523
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 7: the ball has to bounce the right way. The thing

1524
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 7: that you want to be is you want to be

1525
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 7: rock solid. You got to stop the run, and you

1526
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 7: don't to allow big plays in the passing game. Can't

1527
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 7: let them throw over top of the defense. You do

1528
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 7: those two things, it gives you a chance. And then

1529
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 7: on offense, if you can take care of the ball,

1530
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 7: you can run the ball, you can control it in

1531
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,799
Speaker 7: whichever manner you see fit. Your offense now compliments your defense.

1532
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 7: And that's what the Cowboys have been able to do

1533
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 7: with regards to whether they getting the turnovers or not.

1534
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 1: Right, and do you like the Cowboys in this game?

1535
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 7: Yes? I do like the Cowboys. I feel like they

1536
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 7: can sense that they're getting close to being a team

1537
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 7: to be reckon with. I am looking forward to an

1538
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 7: opportunity to seeing the Cowboys and Niners do it again.

1539
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: Me too. And how much of a factor does momentum

1540
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: play when a team is on a roll? To me,

1541
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a snowball rolling down a hill

1542
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 1: you pick up speed. They've won five straight right now,

1543
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: and there's a good chance to get if they win today,

1544
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 1: and I think they will next. They got Miami Detroit

1545
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 1: and Washington. Miami could be a problem, but I think

1546
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 1: that there'll be no problem if they win today.

1547
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, look for both teams. So there's a lot riding

1548
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 7: on on this game either way. That's that's basically what

1549
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 7: we're saying. Uh, it's a huge momentum builder for the

1550
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 7: Buffalo Bills, so they get this. So yeah, I'm with it.

1551
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 7: I'm going for the Cowboys in this, but I wouldn't

1552
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 7: be surprised see the Bills not them.

1553
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 1: Aw, there you go, all right, Bucket brooks Andy Fermit together.

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Speaker 1: This is Fox Football, Sunny and foxbuts ready, he's Bucket Brooks.

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Speaker 1: I'm Andy Furman, about ten minutes before the top of

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Speaker 1: Let's play. It's bottom.

1568
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Speaker 7: To sleep.

1569
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: People get money.

1570
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 12: I'll put your brain to sleep, Benny.

1571
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Speaker 1: Yes, it is the man who handled it all, the

1572
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Speaker 1: one and only Shay Shay. I worry I start to

1573
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Speaker 1: fitz when we play this game. I don't like it anymore.

1574
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. It makes me feel like a moron. But

1575
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 1: let's play anyway.

1576
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 5: Good morning guys, Andy. I completely understand if I lost

1577
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 5: as much as you did, I would too. But I

1578
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 5: think Bucky's just having a bad week this week because

1579
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 5: he lost.

1580
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 8: Did he lost?

1581
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, Christmas present.

1582
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 5: All of all of the luck that he's been putting

1583
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 5: into these to these games, kind of he lost it

1584
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:34,560
Speaker 5: all last week, especially.

1585
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: Week for him. Jacksonville lost and he.

1586
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 5: Lost exactly exactly. But it's okay, Bucky. We'll see if

1587
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 5: you can come back. Right here, you guys ready already,

1588
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 5: I'm ready, all right.

1589
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 1: Bring on.

1590
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 5: I got some new ones for you guys, So we'll see.

1591
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 7: We'll see how we do.

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Speaker 5: In the Belarusian Hockey League Extra LEGA Breast b R

1593
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 5: e ST is taken on Gomel on December ninth at

1594
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 5: eight am Pacific Standard time. Breast is plus one ninety

1595
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 5: while Gomel is minus two sixty. I gotta love those names.

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01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 1: I like breasts. I like breast to chicken. I like

1597
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 1: breasts so all over the place. I really do. I like,

1598
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:09,679
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to get it too personal,

1599
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 1: but I do like breasts. So I'm gonna stay with.

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01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 7: Breasts where my eyes if I'm going.

1601
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 1: Oh, come on, Buck, you know you like breastst.

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01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 5: Was plus one ninety and Gomel was minus two sixty.

1603
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 7: Oh, we'll go with the underdog. On with Gomo Gomel.

1604
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, come on, you don't like breasts, Come on now,

1605
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 1: I likes breast all right.

1606
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 5: In the German Masters Snucker Tournament Thour, Chun Leong is

1607
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 5: taking on Ben Mertens tomorrow at six thirty am Pacific

1608
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 5: Standard time.

1609
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 8: Four is plus one eighty.

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01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 5: Well, Ben Mertens is minus two forty.

1611
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 7: Mister brooks, Oh, I'm gonna take thor, I'm gonna take

1612
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 7: the fav I'm gonna take an all underdogs, I'm gonna

1613
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 7: takeing thora.

1614
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 1: You know, I don't even go with the points and

1615
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: underdog or whatever. Maybe I go with the names.

1616
01:18:58,160 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 3: I like.

1617
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 1: Ben Martin's got two names the chance to win.

1618
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 7: So that been Morton.

1619
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 8: That's a good way to think, Andy, I like that

1620
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 8: and Morton.

1621
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:10,919
Speaker 5: In the International Badminton World Tour Finals Women's Singles Tournament,

1622
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 5: Zuo ying Tie is taking on Carolina Marine. Right now,

1623
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 5: Zoo ying Tie is plus one twenty while Carolina Marine

1624
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:21,719
Speaker 5: is minus one seventy.

1625
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 1: Go with the Big z Baby, go with Zuo Yang,

1626
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 1: the big z s shelm Batty, the big z zu Yan.

1627
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 7: What pronounced the next name?

1628
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 8: Carolina Marine?

1629
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 7: And then oh Carolina Like look, Carolina always on my mind.

1630
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 7: That's that's the easy one.

1631
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 5: In the volley In the Volleyball Guitar League, All A

1632
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 5: Heels Qatar is taking on Police SC today at eight

1633
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 5: am Pacific Standard time. All A Hee Guitar is plus

1634
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 5: one seventy five while Police SC is minus two fifty five.

1635
01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 7: You guys got, mister Brooks, let's go with Police.

1636
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: See, I'm gonna go with the team that ends in

1637
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 1: guitar because basically it's in that country. They got the

1638
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: country's name. There's a real good chance that they're gonna win.

1639
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:11,560
Speaker 8: I love it.

1640
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 1: That's the way it goes over there.

1641
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 8: I love the thought process and of your change.

1642
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: Well it's true, if you don't win there, that probably

1643
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 1: break your legs.

1644
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:29,719
Speaker 8: So who knows, right, we don't got top.

1645
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 9: Of one more?

1646
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 1: All right, next week, say for next week? All right,

1647
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Speaker 1: don't move, do not move, They'll go anywhere. The swollen

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Speaker 1: dome comes here next right now on Fox.

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Speaker 2: A Greetings, welcome in another beautiful Fox Football Sunday, Week

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Speaker 2: fifteen of your National Football League season. And that means

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Speaker 2: you only got a couple more weeks left of the glory,

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Speaker 2: the nature, the putting off your to do lists and

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Speaker 2: everything because you have a date with football.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: You got a bonus yesterday because you had a full

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Speaker 2: watch and three NFL games. While we've got plenty more

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Speaker 2: on this light, plenty of storylines coming out of those

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Speaker 2: going back to Thursday Night football, all of that and

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Speaker 2: the online version of what they used to have in Chicago,

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01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 2: which was this old writer's room where they'd sit and

1668
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 2: yell at each other while drinking coffee and smoking cigars.

1669
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 2: And every one of those guys had to be eighty

1670
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Speaker 2: if he was a day. We're a lot younger, a

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Speaker 2: lot more spry. Mike Harmon alongside Andy Furman, Bucky Brooks, gentlemen,

1672
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 2: another beautiful football Sunday morning ahead of us coming off

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Speaker 2: of I guess we could just call it what it

1674
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 2: is you would have had dogs.

1675
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 1: I used to watch that show Ben Bentley, the film

1676
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Speaker 1: of Guy of the Chicago Bulls, the original PR Guy.

1677
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: He was on that show Bentley, right, because what was

1678
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 1: the name of that show?

1679
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 2: I forget sports writers on TV.

1680
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a great show, really, but you can't

1681
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 1: have it anymore because there aren't that many sports writers.

1682
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 1: I know one reads the newspapers anymore. Well, it's it's

1683
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: a lot more contentious, right.

1684
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 2: It was bad back then, but now everybody's fighting for

1685
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 2: their little piece of territory, right, And you'd have to

1686
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Speaker 2: expand the room because and have a moderator of the

1687
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Speaker 2: highest degree anymore.

1688
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Speaker 1: You can't you can't smoke it. I'd have to do

1689
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Speaker 1: the show outdoors.

1690
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, you just have it where

1691
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 2: it's kind of like your own private room, right, Right,

1692
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 2: It's like there's still bars that you can go smoke in,

1693
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 2: even if there's a no smoking ordinance, as long as

1694
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Speaker 2: it's just family members that work.

1695
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Speaker 1: There, right, or private club. You know, you bring up

1696
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 1: great memories. I used to watch that Chef for got

1697
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 1: all about it, but Ben Bentley was my guy.

1698
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 2: Geez, see, Bucky, we're going in the way back machine.

1699
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 2: They'd be sitting there chopping on cigars and they'd keep

1700
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 2: it civil. They'd get loud and start leaning into their

1701
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 2: chairs and streight, but you know, it's never you're an

1702
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 2: idiot whatever. Nowadays, that's what the common denominator is. You know,

1703
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Speaker 2: you start going where's my camera and pointing here? It

1704
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 2: was all right, that guy's gonna jump over to the

1705
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:23,600
Speaker 2: table and they're gonna joke each other out over a

1706
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 2: decision Tony LaRussa.

1707
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 1: Made that was great.

1708
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 2: Clearly was that's funny for great TV, great theater. I'd

1709
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 2: love to, you know, reenact some of those things here.

1710
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 2: But we're here, we are in three different locales. You've

1711
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 2: got a huge game tonight, Bucky, that you'll be a

1712
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 2: part of Andy. You were in the Uh, I said

1713
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 2: there were two and a half good games.

1714
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 3: Uh.

1715
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 2: That was the half that became a good great game

1716
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 2: in the end when we were watching that unfold and

1717
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:56,919
Speaker 2: what Jake Browning was able to do against the Minnesota Vikings.

1718
01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 1: Uh.

1719
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 2: And I kept seeing everybody in my timeline. I got

1720
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 2: a lot of friends back there in Minnesota, you know,

1721
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 2: touting the defense and what then being able to do.

1722
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 2: It's like they have not a lot of touchdowns, like

1723
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 2: all right, never mind, that's done, it's all over. And

1724
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 2: then Jake brown and getting it done. I mean, have

1725
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 2: they built a statue to him yet in your part?

1726
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 1: But they're saying Joe Who when they talk about Joe Burrow,

1727
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 1: now Joe Who.

1728
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I have a guy that's I like

1729
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 2: the fact that he had such an edge after the game.

1730
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,839
Speaker 2: You know, Bucky guys travel and he become well traveled

1731
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 2: or seasoned veterans or whatever you'ves and we want to

1732
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 2: give him. You know, like in baseball, if you're a

1733
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 2: left hander, at some point you become the crafty southfaw.

1734
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 2: Jake Browning was that guy bounced around and and he

1735
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 2: basically did a Kirk Cousins. You like that when he's

1736
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 2: talking about the Vikings and they should have never cut me.

1737
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 2: I like that he plays with that chip on his shoulder.

1738
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,719
Speaker 1: I often wondered, and I said this on local radio

1739
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 1: the other day in Cincinnati. I often wanted because Mike

1740
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 1: Brown has been known to be I hate to use

1741
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: the term cheap, but frugal, frugal. He would never fire

1742
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: a coach that had the years left on his contract

1743
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 1: because he doesn't want to keep on paying the guy

1744
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 1: for not working. I understand that, but don't you think

1745
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 1: there's been some conversation somewhere in the Bengals offices, maybe

1746
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: with their CEO, the chief financial officer, saying, wait a minute.

1747
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 1: You know, we got this guy, Jake Browning who's making

1748
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 1: maybe one tenth of what Joe Burrow's making and was

1749
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: still winning. What's the deal? Why did we give Burrow

1750
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 1: all that money? Don't you think there's someone somewhere in

1751
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 1: that Bengals office saying.

1752
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 2: That lucky I just heard of you on that.

1753
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 7: I don't think there's anybody. Yeah, I don't don't. I

1754
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,680
Speaker 7: don't think there's anybody in the office is saying that

1755
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 7: at all. I think they're like, hey, it's great, it's

1756
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 7: been a nice story that Jake Browner has been able

1757
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 7: to win, but Joe Burrow is hidden shoulders above Jake

1758
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 7: brown In terms of talent, I would say Jake Browning's

1759
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 7: success has been tied to the fact that the guys

1760
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 7: who are still on the field T Higgins, Jamar Chase

1761
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 7: prior to the injury, Tyler Boyd Joe Mixon are still

1762
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 7: pretty good players. And so when you surround a player

1763
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 7: Jay Bonet with those guys, you have it because remember

1764
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 7: they're throwing a lot of bubble screens. The touchdown to

1765
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 7: t Higgins was a no, no, no, great play Higgs finish.

1766
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 7: So you have to keep it. You have to keep

1767
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 7: it in context, like his guys are played like they should.

1768
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 7: They're making sure they bail him out and help him.

1769
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 7: But he's done a solid job. But I think you

1770
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 7: got to keep it all in perspective.

1771
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we look at that overall. I mean,

1772
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 2: one year, seven hundred and fifty thousand dollar contract to

1773
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 2: your point handy of frugality. I mean that was part

1774
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 2: of the subtext of the giant story coming out of

1775
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 2: Thursday Nights debacle, one of the worst football games depending

1776
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 2: on perspective. Of course, I was on air, so sitting

1777
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 2: here with Kerrie Rhoads, to me, it was how high

1778
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 2: can the pinball machine keep rolling over? Can we get

1779
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 2: it back to Zero's kind of thing? When the Raiders

1780
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 2: were beating up on the Chargers. We'll put a pin

1781
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:01,799
Speaker 2: in that. We'll talk about that story minute. But watching

1782
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 2: you know with the Bengals, you had that three game

1783
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 2: series streak where you lose a tough one to the

1784
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 2: Texans to get beat up by the Ravens. There's no

1785
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 2: shame there, right, there are the class of things. Uh.

1786
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 2: And that was on the road, the loss to Pittsburgh.

1787
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 2: You know, the more you watch Pittsburgh, the more we

1788
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:21,679
Speaker 2: got how do we give that game away? We're playing

1789
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 2: so well with the the teams that are in the

1790
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 2: hunt and and I mean really in the hunt, because

1791
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 2: that's a graphic that's going to be really funny watching

1792
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 2: today based on where teams are and where they've been. Suddenly, Hey,

1793
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 2: the Giants get Darren Waller back today and Tommy DeVito's

1794
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 2: under center on that graphic. They may be on the

1795
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 2: farthest right in smaller font than any now, you know,

1796
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,600
Speaker 2: that's where we are we're at this year. But with

1797
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 2: the Bengals, you know, to your point of guys rising

1798
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 2: up and making plays. You know, even in that game

1799
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 2: against the Jaguar, I mean you had Tyler, they keep

1800
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 2: they're in fat you with someone else throwing the ball,

1801
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 2: even with Jake Browning moving it. So even in that room,

1802
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 2: it's like at some point, watch the guy. He's completing

1803
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 2: two thirds of his past attempts or better in all

1804
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 2: these games. Yeah, you're gonna keep throwing half back and

1805
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,719
Speaker 2: wide receiver throwbacks, and all was like, just stop, just stop,

1806
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 2: just play football, because right now you've got a team

1807
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 2: that's that's really built pretty well and getting it done.

1808
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 2: Te Higgins getting healthy was huge, right because he missed

1809
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 2: a chunk of time during this process, and now you know,

1810
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:32,879
Speaker 2: you hope you can weather the storm with whatever Chase's

1811
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 2: injury is. But yeah, Jake Browning a nice little story

1812
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,680
Speaker 2: here in the year of what are we at like

1813
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 2: fifty seven quarterbacks?

1814
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:42,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

1815
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 7: I think it's I think it's interesting. I do think

1816
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 7: there would be some people that look at Andy and

1817
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 7: previous hour talked about backup quarterbacks and what's wrong with

1818
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 7: quarterback playing the league. What Jake Browning will do is

1819
01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 7: Jake Browning will handle a couple of things. Coming out

1820
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 7: of college. You're looking for guys who experienced. I think

1821
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 7: Jake Browning was a four year starter at UDUB had

1822
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 7: significant experience, playing experience. Those guys, if they're our starters,

1823
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 7: they tend to be perfect backups because they got a

1824
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 7: lot of reps storing the ball, running offenses, those things. Yeah,

1825
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 7: Rock Purdy also can be in that conversational about. But yeah,

1826
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 7: but when you think about that, like brock Purdy's thing,

1827
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 7: brock Purdy, I think you started forty three, forty four

1828
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 7: to forty five games at Iowa State. Significant experience. Those

1829
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 7: things matter, particularly because in the league we talked about

1830
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 7: it being a development league, but it's not because you

1831
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 7: don't practice to twos on the field. They only get

1832
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 7: one or two reps a day. But yet we expect

1833
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 7: them to be able to play at a high level

1834
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:48,560
Speaker 7: when they get their chances as pros. And so for

1835
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 7: backups like a Jake Browning and those guys they fit

1836
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 7: and so Jake Browning will kind of elevate how we

1837
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:58,559
Speaker 7: look at those players undrafted or whatever. But when they

1838
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 7: become twos, we get a chance they played well. So

1839
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 7: now Jake brown will maybe make two three million a

1840
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 7: year living off of whatever this is. He'll live off

1841
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 7: that for the next seven eight years.

1842
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:12,759
Speaker 1: You know, it's okay, But you mentioned developing, and obviously

1843
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 1: the National footb League's not the developmental league. But there

1844
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 1: was a league called the World Football League a one

1845
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 1: point in time, and that didn't develop any players, did it.

1846
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 1: The World Football It folded, So there's no place to

1847
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 1: develop a great backup quarterback unless, as you say, he's

1848
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 1: got to have a lot of reps in college.

1849
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:30,799
Speaker 7: He has to have a lot of reps in college,

1850
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 7: and you have to be willing to pour into him

1851
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 7: on the practice field. So I read about how the

1852
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 7: Titans got Will Levis ready to play. So Will Levis

1853
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 7: they would put him on the other field. He would

1854
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 7: run through the same script that Ryan Tannehill was running through.

1855
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 7: He had him stay after practice with the practice squad

1856
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 7: and backup receivers to repeat the scripts that the number

1857
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 7: ones did well. They did it, so he made sure

1858
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 7: he got all of his reps, even though it required

1859
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 7: extra time. They were willing to do that to make

1860
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 7: sure that he was ready. And so it's not a

1861
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 7: coincidence that when he got his opportunity to play finally

1862
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 7: for the Titans, that he's had some success because he

1863
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 7: was better prepared for those moments. Teams have to make

1864
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 7: a concerted effort to treat the second third practice squad quarterback,

1865
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:17,679
Speaker 7: to treat them like the starter by giving them enough

1866
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:20,600
Speaker 7: reps that if something does happen and they have to

1867
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 7: go in, they know what they're doing. You never want

1868
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:25,639
Speaker 7: a situation where the Vikings had to do with Josh Dobbs,

1869
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:29,760
Speaker 7: where the quarterback coach and the offensive coordinator basically using

1870
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 7: him as a joystick for the video game, telling him

1871
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 7: everything while he's going to make play. We don't want that.

1872
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 7: You want to give them a little more time to

1873
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 7: get ready to play.

1874
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 1: And so what was Josh DoD's bench for Nick Mullins.

1875
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 1: I don't understand that.

1876
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 7: The defensive player, defensive coordinator, but some people view change

1877
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 7: as whatever. But look, Nick Mullins cost him, just like

1878
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 7: Josh Dibbs, it cost him in the past. They need

1879
01:31:57,800 --> 01:31:58,639
Speaker 7: to run the ball.

1880
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:00,120
Speaker 3: Well.

1881
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 2: I mean when you had Nick Mullins though, like that

1882
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 2: was a guy you were waiting on fellas right, he

1883
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:07,280
Speaker 2: was on injured reserve, so you were waiting on him

1884
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:10,040
Speaker 2: to come back. So you kind of got forced into

1885
01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 2: the Dobs situation as soon as he started giving the

1886
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 2: ball away and playing a little looser, and you know,

1887
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 2: the turnovers mounted and ball security, especially fumble wise. You know,

1888
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 2: you open the door because you're looking at it as

1889
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 2: a all right, we only have so many years where

1890
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 2: we roll it together and we're still playing well without Cousins,

1891
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 2: without Justin Jefferson. That you know, with the Margins are gone,

1892
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 2: So Nick Mullins was the guy that we had in

1893
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:40,800
Speaker 2: camp and had expectations for. So you pulled the trigger

1894
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 2: and bring him in, Or at least that's my observation

1895
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 2: of it all.

1896
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 7: Now it makes sense. I mean that this is a

1897
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 7: very sensible solution.

1898
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 2: See, sometimes I'm too pragmatic though. I mean, it's sports

1899
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 2: talk radio. I'm supposed to be banging my fist and

1900
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 2: yelling about stuff.

1901
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:03,720
Speaker 7: Well, you know, I think the bigger thing will be, No,

1902
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 7: the bigger thing will be the conversation that we eventually

1903
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 7: have regarding your team and what they should do at

1904
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 7: the top of the draft. With the quarterback class and

1905
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:17,000
Speaker 7: Justin Fields and the roller coaster that is Chicago Bears

1906
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:21,719
Speaker 7: football net it Maddy Eberflus has seemingly turned a corner

1907
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:22,919
Speaker 7: a little bit with the franchise.

1908
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 2: It's funny, funny how that works. You know what we

1909
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 2: can talk about it.

1910
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:29,919
Speaker 7: That's the evil, that's the evil laugh, that's the evil snicker.

1911
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 7: Evil it is.

1912
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 2: Because you know, it all was going south and terrible,

1913
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 2: and we can tie it to the other job that

1914
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:44,440
Speaker 2: just got vacated from Thursday Nights Debacle because those franchises

1915
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 2: much like yours in Cincinnati. There, Andy, when we're talking

1916
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Speaker 2: about frugality, mom and pop operations and leaving contracts to

1917
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Speaker 2: all right, you may not be good, but you're sticking

1918
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Speaker 2: around because I'll be damned if I'm going to give

1919
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Speaker 2: you seven million dollars to sit at home. Right, So

1920
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 2: that's kind of where we go with the Bears. But

1921
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 2: a couple of the stute personnel moves still no word,

1922
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Speaker 2: I mean really, the lack of an effort to find

1923
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 2: Alan Williams is still concerning to me. What happened to

1924
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Speaker 2: Alan Williams? Does anybody remember Alan Williams. We'll talk about

1925
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Speaker 2: all of that coming up as we continue. Andy Furman

1926
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Speaker 2: over there at Andy Furman FSR. We've got Bucky Brooks

1927
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Speaker 2: at Bucky Brooks. I'm by Elver at Swollen Dome. If

1928
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 2: you want to yell at me, Hey, football fans, be

1929
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Speaker 2: sure to tune into Fox Sports Radio every Sunday morning.

1930
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Speaker 2: In other words, just keep it locked on here as

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Speaker 2: we roll on. Beginning at ten a m. Eastern, seven

1932
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Speaker 2: o'clock Pacific, You've got Countdown to Kickoff, presented by Bet MGM,

1933
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Speaker 2: Brian No, Jeff Schwartz, a professional better. Bill Krackenberger had

1934
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Speaker 2: you covered three hours before kickoff every Sunday morning. Listen

1935
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Speaker 2: to Countdown to Kickoff, presented by bet MGM right here

1936
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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. That was

1937
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 2: Bucky's way of poking the bear literally and figuratively. We'll

1938
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 2: talk about it next year. Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio.

1939
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,960
Speaker 2: It's Fox Football Sunday by Carmen alongside Andy Furman Bucky Brooks.

1940
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 2: Find them at Andy Furman FSR and Bucky Brooks respectively.

1941
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 2: Andy longtime radio host pr Man, has a newspaper column,

1942
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 2: does some radio appearances. You can find all that at

1943
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Speaker 2: his Twitter account. He sends me mail, which is like

1944
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 2: I keep waiting on mail day. It's the greatest thing

1945
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 2: because you like to feel loved. And then you got

1946
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks, who's a man about town. He's got his

1947
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars, he's got the NFL dot Com, he's got

1948
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 2: his podcast with the guy. I think we'll be talking

1949
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 2: about maybe for another job here before the hour or

1950
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 2: next hour is up, we'll talk about that. All sorts

1951
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 2: of stuff going on in Bucky's world. But read his

1952
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 2: columns NFL dot Com. I'm blessed to be with these

1953
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 2: guys each and every week, and blessed to have you

1954
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 2: all out there wherever you're listening, however you're listening. Part

1955
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Speaker 2: of our Extended Family podcast goes up after we're done here.

1956
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:57,599
Speaker 2: Look for Fox Sports Weekends, Fox Football Sunday Downloaded, given

1957
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:01,679
Speaker 2: five stars. We'll love you forever, especially at this holiday holiday,

1958
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:05,719
Speaker 2: holiday time of year as we're here in the Tirak

1959
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Speaker 2: dot Com studios. All right, Bucky, so you brought it off,

1960
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Speaker 2: bringing in the Bears to the equation. So yeah, thanks.

1961
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,919
Speaker 2: As I start thinking about that, that's spinning in infinity.

1962
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 2: But you know, bringing in Montese Sweat and paying him

1963
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Speaker 2: working on the contract for Jalen Johnson, who you know. Look,

1964
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 2: I'll give him credit. He was wisely seeking out support

1965
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 2: from the wide receiver room of how to catch a

1966
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,479
Speaker 2: football the last couple of weeks because he's left a

1967
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 2: couple of pick sixes on the table on the doorstep.

1968
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 2: Go back to that game against Detroit. The first one

1969
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 2: they gave away should have walked into the end zone

1970
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 2: and sealed the deal. Instead, a touchdown for the lines

1971
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:48,639
Speaker 2: the next play, and then they eventually complete that comeback.

1972
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 2: It's been a strange season in Chicago when everything seemed

1973
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:55,720
Speaker 2: like it was circling the drain calling for eber Flus's

1974
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:59,640
Speaker 2: and look, he was defiant, like Brandon Staley was at

1975
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:04,240
Speaker 2: a lot of pressers and dismissive of people and circumstance.

1976
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,920
Speaker 2: I mentioned the Allen Williams thing in Jess But what

1977
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 2: they did go out and do is find some support

1978
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 2: and a defensive analyst. And you've had a much different

1979
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:18,799
Speaker 2: squad since then. But can't underscore how much the decision

1980
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,760
Speaker 2: to go and trade for Montes Sweat has made that

1981
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 2: defense come alive with turnovers and just points per game,

1982
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 2: cleaning all that up. Now it doesn't disguise all the

1983
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 2: works that you have on offense at times, but you

1984
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:36,839
Speaker 2: can't deny that Justin Field, since coming back from the injury,

1985
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:39,640
Speaker 2: has played some pretty good football. But now there is

1986
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:42,640
Speaker 2: no man's land because with the Chargers there was no

1987
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Speaker 2: way around it right after that no show effort on

1988
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Speaker 2: Thursday night of we have to change it all out.

1989
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Speaker 2: Now the Bears are in that strange space. Eberflus probably

1990
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Speaker 2: plays and stays a member of the Bears, but the

1991
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Speaker 2: Justin Fields discussion, I'm still of the opinion. All right,

1992
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 2: how much better are these guys getting if you're were

1993
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 2: going to the draft. But from a financial standpoint, I

1994
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 2: understand the resetting of the clock. So Bucky, I defer

1995
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Speaker 2: to you first man. Is that what it's all about?

1996
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Speaker 2: Just restarting the clock and hoping those guys are are

1997
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Speaker 2: slightly better?

1998
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Speaker 7: So this is interesting. This week on NFL dot com,

1999
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Speaker 7: shameless Plug nice I wrote about a conversation regarding Joe

2000
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Speaker 7: Flacco and Justin Fields, two quarterbacks that are seemingly at

2001
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 7: different spectrums of their career, but both will have decisions

2002
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 7: to make at the end their teams will well. With

2003
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Speaker 7: Justin Fields, the decision is, and you have all the

2004
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 7: people from draft Twitter say that, oh my god, this

2005
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Speaker 7: is a great chance for the Bears to get cute.

2006
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Speaker 7: They can trade away Justin Fields, they can take a

2007
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Speaker 7: quarterback at the top of the draft. They can quote

2008
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Speaker 7: unquote reset the clock on the title window by having

2009
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Speaker 7: the young quarterback. They can go and then get the

2010
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Speaker 7: court back and oh, let's go get Marvin Harrison Junr

2011
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Speaker 7: a nice shiny toy to go along with DJ Moore,

2012
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Speaker 7: and away we go, which would be great right in theory,

2013
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Speaker 7: that is great you get the quarterback at the top

2014
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Speaker 7: of the draft, and your franchise quarterback you surrounding with

2015
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:19,640
Speaker 7: the playmaker, and that, in theory, looks great. Here's the

2016
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:22,600
Speaker 7: thing of the last three or four years in the

2017
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 7: first round, how many of those quarterbacks have really hit

2018
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Speaker 7: h Let's see maybe Trevor Lawrence, No Zach Wilson, no

2019
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Speaker 7: Trey Lance, no mac Jones, Kenny Pickett. Are we good

2020
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 7: about Kenny Pickett? Do we feel good about Kenny Pickett

2021
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Speaker 7: as a franchise quarterback? So in theory it sounds nice

2022
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Speaker 7: that we're gonna go get the young quarterback that's going

2023
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Speaker 7: to save the day. In reality, it's been really hard

2024
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Speaker 7: to find a quarterback at the top of the draft.

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Speaker 2: I got to tears my eyes over here because you're

2026
01:39:57,600 --> 01:39:59,600
Speaker 2: you sound like you've been listen to me and my

2027
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 2: little internal monologues. It's like the movie Inside Out. You're

2028
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 2: that West in my head.

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Speaker 7: So it's in theory, is that? And so if I'm

2030
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Speaker 7: at Eberflus and I know that if they bring me back,

2031
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Speaker 7: they don't really want to bring me back. But if

2032
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Speaker 7: they bring me back, do I want to now start

2033
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Speaker 7: over with another young quarterback going through the growing pains

2034
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Speaker 7: while the expectations are on me to win to save

2035
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Speaker 7: my job. Nah, I'll continue down this same road with

2036
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Speaker 7: Justin Fields. Yes, we'll pick up the fifth year option.

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Speaker 7: It's not cost prohibitive. It's what fifteen to twenty million dollars,

2038
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Speaker 7: it's not fifty million dollars that we're talking about. You know,

2039
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:46,640
Speaker 7: he has his fourth year than his fifth year. So

2040
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 7: for two years, you're good. Right, two years, you're good.

2041
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 7: It's like a Jordan Love deal while you build up

2042
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 7: the rest of the team, and then at that point

2043
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Speaker 7: before you have to pay him the big money, maybe

2044
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:01,360
Speaker 7: that's the time that you hit the ejec button and

2045
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 7: get a quarterback if you feel like he can't get

2046
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 7: it done. To me, that is a more sensible plan

2047
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 7: to build up everything for the team and then find

2048
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 7: the quarterback, as opposed to I'm gonna get the young

2049
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Speaker 7: quarterback and the team is still in the dumps.

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Speaker 1: It makes a lot of sense, you know what. Buckets

2051
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:19,840
Speaker 1: kind of like they say, the devil you know is

2052
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 1: better than the devil you don't. So you stay with

2053
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:24,600
Speaker 1: Justin Fields. Here's the problem with the Chicago Bears. I

2054
01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 1: don't like the idea that Justin Fields leads the team

2055
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 1: in rushing. I don't like that. I don't want my

2056
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Speaker 1: quarterback to rush all the time. I mean, we're still

2057
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 1: what happened in Baltimore with Lamar Jackson. What they did

2058
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:37,799
Speaker 1: they surrounded him with some more players on the offensive

2059
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:40,000
Speaker 1: side of the football. What do they have in Chicago

2060
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 1: that Guy Foreman and a Khalil Herbert running the football.

2061
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Speaker 1: You gotta get some runners, that's what they need. You

2062
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:49,719
Speaker 1: get the contingent of some strong backfield running game. Because

2063
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:52,560
Speaker 1: Fields right now has the most rushing yards on the

2064
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:55,640
Speaker 1: team and the second most carries, which is ridiculous. You

2065
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:59,640
Speaker 1: get him some running backs in the backfield, then this

2066
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 1: team could be dangerous. They really can. Defensively, they're okay,

2067
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Speaker 1: and they should have beat the Detroit Lions that first game.

2068
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Speaker 1: What was it like, a thirty one to twenty six score. Yep,

2069
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 1: they should have won that game at Detroit. So they're

2070
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 1: not that far out of it. They're really not. And

2071
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:15,240
Speaker 1: that division right now has really come down. There's no

2072
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:18,080
Speaker 1: dominance in that division any longer. Green Bay's good, but

2073
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 1: they're not dominating that they used to.

2074
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Speaker 2: Well, last night, the team sent the flare up into

2075
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Speaker 2: the sky the Detroit Lions. I heard a take from

2076
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 2: my guy Jason Smith. It didn't age particularly well with

2077
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Speaker 2: the beatdown that the Lions put on the Broncos yesterday.

2078
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 2: And let's go to that game for a minute. We

2079
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:38,680
Speaker 2: got a couple more still on the slate for the

2080
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 2: Ranger this week to talk about. But looking at that

2081
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:44,799
Speaker 2: game last night, you know, part of it is schedule

2082
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 2: making right. The Broncos, with three straight road games, come in.

2083
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:53,840
Speaker 2: For the Lions, everything had been trending poorly, right, golf

2084
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:56,519
Speaker 2: hadn't been taking care of the football, the run game.

2085
01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 2: To your point, Andy about the Bears, one of those

2086
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:02,599
Speaker 2: guys used to be a Bear in David Montgomery. They

2087
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:05,840
Speaker 2: decided to go with the committee option, and then Herbert

2088
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:10,640
Speaker 2: couldn't stay healthy. They bring in Roshawn Johnson. Health has

2089
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 2: been an issue for him, and then Deontay Foruman, that's

2090
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 2: the story of his career, right, He's had multiple bites

2091
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:20,760
Speaker 2: at the Apple and previous stops where he looks good

2092
01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:23,160
Speaker 2: for a couple of weeks and then he's unavailable. So

2093
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:27,839
Speaker 2: that's part of the bugaboo there. But for the Lions,

2094
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 2: they come out and they absolutely bludgeon what had been

2095
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 2: a rising Denver squad. I gotta be a I gotta

2096
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 2: admit I was really surprised. You know, we do our

2097
01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:38,880
Speaker 2: upset specials and I'm like, I don't feel great about it,

2098
01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:41,640
Speaker 2: but let's look at where the Broncos are and that

2099
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:45,240
Speaker 2: the defense being able to get after Jared Goff instead

2100
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:47,839
Speaker 2: of was anything. But you know, it became a clinic

2101
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:51,280
Speaker 2: after a while. Sam Laporta, you know tight End University,

2102
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 2: they grow corn and tight ends in Iowa. We know that,

2103
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 2: and big offensive lineman, but man, look, tight end's rolling through.

2104
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 2: Martin made the joke about drafting running backs and tight

2105
01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:05,599
Speaker 2: ends in the first and second round. Lo and behold, hey,

2106
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 2: you got two guys that can play. But there's that

2107
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:13,000
Speaker 2: man right alongside Gibbs with Montgomery that make that thing work.

2108
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Speaker 2: And for one day, we're back to Sean Payton and

2109
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:21,439
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson not necessarily loving on each other, especially towards

2110
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Speaker 2: the end of that third quarter. Now, I'm still waiting

2111
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Speaker 2: for that Javonte Williams touchdown for my fantasy team that

2112
01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:30,040
Speaker 2: I got screwed on because he was in and then

2113
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Speaker 2: they elected to kick the field goal, So they should

2114
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Speaker 2: all be fired on principle for bad game management. But

2115
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Speaker 2: that's just me. But Bucky, I mean, did that outcome

2116
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Speaker 2: shock you?

2117
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Speaker 7: No, it is on me one. The NFL is a

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Speaker 7: week to weekly. The Detroit Lions have shown that when

2119
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 7: their backs are against the wall, that's when they play

2120
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Speaker 7: their best football. Dan Campbell, for all of the theatrics

2121
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 7: as a rough and tumble coach, he's a really good coach,

2122
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Speaker 7: right because this team took the Broncos to the shed

2123
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:01,200
Speaker 7: from the opening jump, I mean right out the gate.

2124
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Speaker 7: It was the Lions imposing their will in Fordfield looked

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Speaker 7: like a tough place to play last night. I would

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Speaker 7: say that. Look, there was a lot of consternation, a

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Speaker 7: lot of negativity going around Jared Goff, and he had

2128
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Speaker 7: a rough little patch of games where he was turning

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Speaker 7: the ball over. But for the most part, he's been

2130
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Speaker 7: really good since he's been in Detroit, and he and

2131
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Speaker 7: Ben Johnson have a synergy. He to me, is the

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Speaker 7: right guy for that team and job. And I know

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Speaker 7: part of this is, man, we love quarterback. I don't

2134
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Speaker 7: know if there's anything more than we than our love

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01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 7: and affinity and adoration for quarterbacks and a new shiny

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Speaker 7: toy that could be in the draft. For two years,

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01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 7: we've tried to give away Jared Goff's job. Right, he

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Speaker 7: had three bad games and they're like, oh, they got

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Speaker 7: to get another quarterback, and I'm like, hey man, it's

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Speaker 7: hard to find quarterbacks. He's been pretty good for him

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Speaker 7: and then he showed him and played really well. I

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Speaker 7: think this is who the Lions are. They are a

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Speaker 7: really good football team. To me, they are a mini

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Speaker 7: version of the forty nine is in terms of the

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Speaker 7: ability to play bully ball, which is why I expect

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Speaker 7: this to be a very, very tough team in the

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Speaker 7: tournament when we get to it in January.

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Speaker 1: You know, you talk about the Lions, I'm forget about

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Speaker 1: their defense. The defense is pretty good to put a

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Speaker 1: lot of pressure on the quarterback situation in Denver. But

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Speaker 1: I will say this, and Bucky said this, and I

2152
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:23,920
Speaker 1: listened to Bucket, I really do. And you got to

2153
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Speaker 1: run the football. And that's what they did. So between

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Speaker 1: Gibbs and Montgomery last night, they come buy for something

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01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:30,560
Speaker 1: like one hundred and eighty five yards. They carried the

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01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:32,759
Speaker 1: ball twenty seven times. You got to run the football,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's basically what football is. I mean, especially

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Speaker 1: this time of the year when people are banged up

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Speaker 1: and injured, you know, but they did it both because

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Speaker 1: Gofs protected well and he had Saint Brown and he's

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Speaker 1: got it throwing the ball to him. He's got Laporter

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01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 1: throwing the ball to him. So you know, he's got

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01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:52,240
Speaker 1: everything going for him. He's got two receivers that are wonderful,

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Speaker 1: he really does. I got two running backs maybe the

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Speaker 1: best one two combination in football. So you know, why

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Speaker 1: wouldn't they win? And they won big?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate the bully ball mentality. Right, it's old

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Speaker 2: school classic football. That doesn't mean there isn't somethinesse and

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Speaker 2: that Jared Goff doesn't get the ball downfield. Look, I

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Speaker 2: never wanted him out of the Rams, but clearly there

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Speaker 2: terms of what McVeigh and company wanted to do going forward.

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Speaker 2: And it's hard to argue with it. Right, you bring

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Speaker 2: in Stafford, you win a Super Bowl, going all in

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Speaker 2: with the veterans like you did. But you know, Golf

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Speaker 2: was a guy that you know, remember he starting in

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Speaker 2: the Jeff Fisher world. I'm not going seven and nine,

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Speaker 2: but you know what I'm still waiting on my championship

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Speaker 2: did it to Eric Dickerson and look what happened. Everything

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Speaker 2: got blowed up. Sean McVay comes in. They did it

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Speaker 2: to Chandra Rhymes with people that were buddies of hers,

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I'm just saying, you don't mess with

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Speaker 2: people's Disneyland tickets anyway. Mike Carmon, Andy Forman, Bucky Brooks

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Speaker 2: with you here, Fox Sports Radios, Fox Football Sunday. Now

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Speaker 2: let's turn it over to our guy Martin Weiss for

2197
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:31,559
Speaker 2: an update on the extensive injury reports rolling around. We'll

2198
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Speaker 2: see if he can talk like the micromachines guy from

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Speaker 2: the eighties. Let's go, Martin, what's up?

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Speaker 8: I have no idea who the micro machines got from

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Speaker 8: the eighties.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm really young. I don't have any

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Speaker 2: reference to culture before I was born.

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Speaker 8: Come on, man, First of all, whoa second of it?

2205
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 8: I just don't know that one. Okay, my bad, bad.

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01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 8: You want to talk about quarterbacks.

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01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:54,400
Speaker 10: From the ages, I could do that, but micro machines

2208
01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 10: I can't do. But Case keenam is starting tomorrow. That

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Speaker 10: is not I'm starting today. Rather, that's not a blast

2210
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:01,639
Speaker 10: from the past. Case Keenum actually going to be starting

2211
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 10: for the Houston Texans, provided that CJ. Strout does not

2212
01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:07,439
Speaker 10: clear concussion protocol. Not looking likely for that. Texans wills

2213
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 10: to be without wide receiver Nico Collins and Noah Brown

2214
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:12,839
Speaker 10: expected to play through a knee injury as the Texans

2215
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:13,719
Speaker 10: play the Titans.

2216
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:16,840
Speaker 8: Green Bay is expecting, well, Tampa Bay.

2217
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:19,839
Speaker 10: Rather, it's expecting wide receiver Chris Godwin to play against

2218
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:20,559
Speaker 10: Green Bay.

2219
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 8: He's got a knee injury.

2220
01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:25,519
Speaker 10: Chris Olave will be a game time decision, but according

2221
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:27,720
Speaker 10: to Ian Rappaport and is not looking likely. He will

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01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 10: probably work out before the games. TV can go Saints

2223
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:33,479
Speaker 10: versus the Giants today and Tommy DeVito Darren Waller will

2224
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:36,080
Speaker 10: be active. Jamal Williams Staysom Hill where he shaheed for

2225
01:49:36,160 --> 01:49:38,679
Speaker 10: the Saints. All will be full go there Bill's versus

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01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 10: the Cowboys. Brandon Cooks is Tefan Gilmour, both on the

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01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:44,040
Speaker 10: injury report with illnesses, are both expected to suit up

2228
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 10: and play up there in Orchard Park this evening. The

2229
01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:49,559
Speaker 10: Rams expecting Aaron Donald to play against the Commanders wide

2230
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:52,759
Speaker 10: receiver too to at well still in concussion protocol. Cardinals

2231
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:55,560
Speaker 10: wide receivers Hollywood Brown and Michael Wilson both expected to

2232
01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:57,599
Speaker 10: play against the forty nine Ers Chicago.

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Speaker 8: Your team, Mike expects d J. Moore to play to

2234
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:03,680
Speaker 8: an ankle injury against the Cleveland Browns. Left today. You

2235
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 8: guys were just talking about this.

2236
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:07,360
Speaker 10: Jared Goff through five touchdown passes, three of them to

2237
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 10: tight in Sam Laporta. The Lions beat the Broncos forty

2238
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 10: two to seventeen. The Colts beat the Steelers thirty to thirteen.

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01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 10: Mitchell Trubisky benched for Mason Rudolph Pittsburgh in a tailspin,

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Speaker 10: has lost four of its last five. Gardner Minshew had

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Speaker 10: three touchdown passes and Cincinnati won an overtime against Minnesota

2242
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 10: twenty seven to twenty four. Bangles trail for most of

2243
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:30,000
Speaker 10: the game, but te Higgins caught the game tying touchdown

2244
01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:31,880
Speaker 10: pass final minute the regulation in one of the better

2245
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:34,519
Speaker 10: plays you'll see all season. Jamar Chase left that game

2246
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:38,160
Speaker 10: with the shoulder injury. Bengals have won three straight under

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01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:41,920
Speaker 10: quarterback Jake Browning. Back to you, guys, appreciate you Martin.

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Speaker 2: You hear Martin's Saturday nights and he's been here all

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01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:49,120
Speaker 2: night long, burning the midnight oil. Are there gnomes or

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Speaker 2: gremlins or anything that come out in the wee hours

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Speaker 2: of the morning here, Martin.

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Speaker 8: No, just Bernie Frattle, that's it.

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Speaker 1: Oh jeez wow, I don't know what to do with one.

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Speaker 10: I'm just gonna leave that a lot of the blow

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Speaker 10: for burn for the burn, though, that's my guy.

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Speaker 8: That's my guy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there, Well, you know, four hours getting after it,

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Speaker 2: you're getting you ready for all the games. And the

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Speaker 2: monologue is obviously Bernie, one of our staples on the

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Speaker 2: weekend overnight. I just didn't know because I made a

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Speaker 2: gno him in Gremlin reference where that was going. But

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Speaker 2: you know it's it's the overnight guy went and saw

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Speaker 2: the Wonka movie, so it's you know, you have the

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Speaker 2: Hugh Grant umpa lumpa and the whole thing is he

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Speaker 2: terrorizes the guy at night and steals from him. But

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Speaker 2: not a spoiler, because it's actually already been out in

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Speaker 2: the press a lot. It was a pretty entertaining movie,

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Speaker 2: by the way. Guess I gotta say many laughs were

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Speaker 2: had by all. And I'm gonna learn the soundtrack and

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Speaker 2: sing it to you each and every Sunday here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Well, all right, I have a wonderful,

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Speaker 2: Bucky and see what we can uncover about solving the

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Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens later on tonight. That's coming up next here

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Speaker 2: as we continue Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in it's Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Week fifteen is here. Four games already in the books,

2289
01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:42,760
Speaker 2: full slate. Bucky and Andy have already covered most of them.

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Speaker 2: The prior two hours podcasts will be up all of

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Speaker 2: that fun stuff as you get your predictive powers together,

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Speaker 2: trying to cobble together the rest of your fantasy seasons,

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Speaker 2: whatever you're doing the purposes of this your entertainment information

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Speaker 2: highway that we are here live from the tyraq dot

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Speaker 2: com studios. Fellas, we got two games left to preview

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Speaker 2: on the slate, so why don't we get to that

2297
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Speaker 2: big Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: Affair Ravens at Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: Ravens a three point favorite over under, sitting at forty

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01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:16,479
Speaker 2: one and a half forty two. Had that overtime win

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01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:19,960
Speaker 2: against the Rams. Did the Ravens a week ago? Jags

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01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 2: with two straight losses, including the aforementioned still elite Joe Flacco.

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01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:30,000
Speaker 2: Baltimore sixteen point eight points allowed per game, forty nine sacks.

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01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:33,640
Speaker 2: You may not have the household names outside of you

2305
01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 2: know Rokwan Smith, given the contract that he was given

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01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:41,040
Speaker 2: coming out of Chicago. For the Jaguars, they're good against

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01:53:41,080 --> 01:53:44,720
Speaker 2: the run. Josh Allen the other Josh Allen thirteen and

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01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:47,880
Speaker 2: a half sacks, half of their total on the year.

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Speaker 2: A big matchup, Andy, I'll start with you expectations here.

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Speaker 1: Well, here is the thing. You got two teams that

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01:53:55,439 --> 01:53:58,080
Speaker 1: Jags and the Ravens are heading in opposite directions. Jackson

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01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:00,680
Speaker 1: was on a two game losing slide. Both looks very

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01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:03,040
Speaker 1: very high why and we just talked about it. Really

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01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:06,200
Speaker 1: Baltimore has won seven of us last eight games out

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01:54:06,479 --> 01:54:09,680
Speaker 1: Why on the back of the strong run game with

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01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:13,599
Speaker 1: the duo of Lamar Jackson and Gus Edwards. That's why

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01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:15,439
Speaker 1: they do it. And I hate to say this, and

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01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:17,439
Speaker 1: please don't put me in this position because I love

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01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:20,360
Speaker 1: Bucket Brooks. I do and if I could play for Jacksonville.

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01:54:20,439 --> 01:54:22,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if it would help, but I'd like

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01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:25,840
Speaker 1: to see them win for several reasons. The first Bucky Brooks.

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01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:28,000
Speaker 1: The second, I'm a Bengal fan, so I want to

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01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:30,639
Speaker 1: see the Ravens lose. So look, I don't think it's

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01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 1: going to happen. I just think that Ravens have too

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Speaker 1: much going for him right now.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot not to digest for you there, Bucky, Yeah,

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01:54:41,280 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 2: there's a lot here.

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Speaker 7: Here's what I'll say. They are two teams that appear

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01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:47,040
Speaker 7: to be head in different directions, but as we've seen

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01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:49,760
Speaker 7: the National Football League, it's a week to week league

2331
01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:52,240
Speaker 7: where momentum is created on the day of the game.

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01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:57,240
Speaker 7: The Baltimore Ravens needed a punt return touchdown in overtime

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01:54:57,320 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 7: to knock off the Rams. So I'm not going to

2334
01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:02,000
Speaker 7: act like, uh, they're a team that can't be knocked off.

2335
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:04,880
Speaker 7: We've also seen them lose to lesser teams. To me,

2336
01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 7: this game has nothing to do with the Ravens and

2337
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:09,720
Speaker 7: everything to do with the Jaguars. The Jaguars have beaten

2338
01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 7: themselves with turnovers and miscommunications and errors. If they clean

2339
01:55:13,320 --> 01:55:14,760
Speaker 7: up that part of it, they're good enough to go

2340
01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:16,920
Speaker 7: toe to toe with the Ravens. I think on Sunday

2341
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 7: night you'll see the best version of the Jaguars. I

2342
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:21,720
Speaker 7: expect them to play well in the bank.

2343
01:55:22,160 --> 01:55:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we look at the way the Ravens have run.

2344
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 2: Be could you just went after Justin Fields being the

2345
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:28,960
Speaker 2: leading rusher Lamar Jackson?

2346
01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 7: Come on, notice that?

2347
01:55:33,800 --> 01:55:37,560
Speaker 1: Okay, but Lamar Jackson's game, his legs are his game.

2348
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:40,040
Speaker 2: Justin Fields thing.

2349
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 1: I don't think they want them to be that.

2350
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 2: Last year Andy.

2351
01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:47,440
Speaker 1: I know I'm nine hundred eleven because he had them

2352
01:55:47,480 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 1: for his life.

2353
01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:51,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I would say this Andy back to Justin Fields.

2354
01:55:52,320 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 7: They may not want him to do that. But if

2355
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 7: they leaned into that, if I'm the Bears, and this

2356
01:55:56,720 --> 01:55:59,360
Speaker 7: is why I say keep them, run them into the wheels.

2357
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:03,200
Speaker 13: Fall, that's they found another quarterback exactly. So that's why

2358
01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 13: I don't understand all this concepts. Oh my god, we

2359
01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:08,240
Speaker 13: have to pay him man sign the fifth year option

2360
01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:09,520
Speaker 13: A justin guess.

2361
01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:12,160
Speaker 7: What you're going to be our version of Eddie George.

2362
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 7: We're going to run you as you can't run anymore,

2363
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:16,520
Speaker 7: because that's what you do really really well.

2364
01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:18,680
Speaker 2: Yeah that I mean, that's it makes sense. The one

2365
01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:22,680
Speaker 2: on one comparison. But I mean he created firestones, firestorms

2366
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 2: this week by using the system quarterback thing, which we

2367
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:29,360
Speaker 2: immediately take as a flamethrower. But Cam Newton, it's the

2368
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:31,200
Speaker 2: same thing. You knew there was a shelf life for

2369
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:33,320
Speaker 2: the style and the way he played with his hundred

2370
01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:36,200
Speaker 2: carries a year, but that's what made him great, right,

2371
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 2: so mediate into that.

2372
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:43,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, Cam Newton played for eleven years. I know we're

2373
01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:45,800
Speaker 7: used to this thing for Tom Brady because Tom Brady

2374
01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:48,640
Speaker 7: played twenty years. But you know what, your quarterback's not

2375
01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:50,760
Speaker 7: supposed to play that long. If you get ten years

2376
01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:53,040
Speaker 7: out of a quarterback, a started quarterback, that is a

2377
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:56,240
Speaker 7: good run. Cam Newton got eleven years out of that

2378
01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:59,640
Speaker 7: running style. I think everyone needs to have perspective. That's

2379
01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:03,000
Speaker 7: a rookie contract and a second contract. Maybe he doesn't

2380
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:05,320
Speaker 7: get a third contract, but if you're the team, why

2381
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:06,000
Speaker 7: does it matter?

2382
01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:08,520
Speaker 2: Well and run the guy into the ground. That's what

2383
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:11,280
Speaker 2: we see with the running back position. It's always that

2384
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:15,879
Speaker 2: cause of consternation and why guys tried the mini holdout

2385
01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:18,480
Speaker 2: thing this week this year, Notice they all came back

2386
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:21,600
Speaker 2: and most of them are having subpar years. Just saying

2387
01:57:22,240 --> 01:57:26,480
Speaker 2: as we roll through, sometimes that solves itself once they're

2388
01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:29,400
Speaker 2: on the field to play right, either between staying healthy

2389
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:32,160
Speaker 2: or just performance. Look at you, Austin Eckler. You look

2390
01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:35,960
Speaker 2: at you, Josh Jacobs, and keep going down to the line.

2391
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 2: As it were, I got one more game to go

2392
01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:42,680
Speaker 2: Monday Night football, Eagles at Seahawks Eagles. The sky is falling,

2393
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:45,840
Speaker 2: everybody would tell you as you roll through, And certainly

2394
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:49,200
Speaker 2: the back seven has its issues. Run game, DeAndre Swift

2395
01:57:49,280 --> 01:57:52,280
Speaker 2: and stifled a bit. You have those huge losses to

2396
01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:55,760
Speaker 2: Dallas and San Francisco, end up a gauntlet of the schedule.

2397
01:57:55,880 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 2: Gino's expected to go on Monday Night. So now the

2398
01:58:00,720 --> 01:58:05,520
Speaker 2: curiosity for the Seattle Seahawks offensively, can they get enough

2399
01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:09,520
Speaker 2: more from Jackson Smith and Jigba along Dk Metcalf. He

2400
01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:12,680
Speaker 2: scored three of his last four games, including that hat

2401
01:58:12,760 --> 01:58:16,960
Speaker 2: trick against the Cowboys. But Monday Night football, here are

2402
01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:20,720
Speaker 2: we overblowing the sky is falling for the Eagles or

2403
01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:23,720
Speaker 2: is it still a keep something in the bag because

2404
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 2: you're gonna make the playoffs, particularly with the design runs.

2405
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:29,360
Speaker 2: Owing to the larger conversation of you got to make

2406
01:58:29,360 --> 01:58:33,040
Speaker 2: sure your quarterback's ready to go come January. Bucky, I'll

2407
01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:33,400
Speaker 2: start with you.

2408
01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:35,840
Speaker 7: You gotta make the long plea. You gotta make sure

2409
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:37,760
Speaker 7: your quarterback is ready to go into the playoffs. But

2410
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:39,640
Speaker 7: you also have to have some momentum. You want to

2411
01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:42,240
Speaker 7: feel good about your team. The Eagles have not played

2412
01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 7: well of late, offensively in defense. See, this is not

2413
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:47,080
Speaker 7: the same team that we saw last year, and of

2414
01:58:47,120 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 7: course it's gonna be different. Shane Steichen is an indie.

2415
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:51,560
Speaker 7: We can see what kind of impact he could have

2416
01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:54,000
Speaker 7: made on this offense. They got to find a way

2417
01:58:54,040 --> 01:58:56,360
Speaker 7: to get in rhythm. But you also want a quarterback healthy.

2418
01:58:56,440 --> 01:58:58,160
Speaker 7: It's that fine line. He needs to run it some,

2419
01:58:58,520 --> 01:58:59,800
Speaker 7: but you want to keep him out of harm's way

2420
01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:00,760
Speaker 7: much as you can.

2421
01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:04,440
Speaker 1: All Right, here's the deal. Two double digit losses for

2422
01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:07,120
Speaker 1: the Eagles in a row. It drops to Eagles from

2423
01:59:07,680 --> 01:59:11,400
Speaker 1: East leaders leaders to fifth in the NFC. Seahawks now

2424
01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:13,160
Speaker 1: have lost four in a row, and we'll see what

2425
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 1: happens there. But I will tell you this much the Eagles,

2426
01:59:15,960 --> 01:59:17,800
Speaker 1: and you see the sky falling, I say it is.

2427
01:59:18,040 --> 01:59:19,600
Speaker 1: The Eagles have won a lot of games, a lot

2428
01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:22,880
Speaker 1: of close games, and maybe they're not quite as good

2429
01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:25,680
Speaker 1: as their record says they are. So I tell you

2430
01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:28,240
Speaker 1: right now, if I'm a betting man, probably stay away

2431
01:59:28,280 --> 01:59:30,800
Speaker 1: from this game completely. But really a truly if you

2432
01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:32,440
Speaker 1: put a gun to my head and say who's going

2433
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:34,320
Speaker 1: to win? I like the Seahawks in this game.

2434
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:38,440
Speaker 2: I really do. It's got the Seahawks they are giving.

2435
01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:41,480
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm in the next week. It is a

2436
01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:45,200
Speaker 2: three point spread, Eagles favored on the road, forty seven

2437
01:59:45,240 --> 01:59:47,480
Speaker 2: and a half the total. One thing for sure, weather

2438
01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:50,440
Speaker 2: will be a factor, So look at that in your lineups.

2439
01:59:50,600 --> 01:59:53,360
Speaker 2: And hopefully you're getting on the highways and byways well

2440
01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:56,280
Speaker 2: and safely as you go to Grandma's house and all

2441
01:59:56,320 --> 01:59:59,720
Speaker 2: of these old holiday cliches. Andy Furman, thanks for being

2442
01:59:59,720 --> 02:00:03,440
Speaker 2: with us. Happy belated Hanukkah to you and Bucky. You

2443
02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:07,919
Speaker 2: and I continue for another hour here on Fox Football Sunday. Greetings,

2444
02:00:07,960 --> 02:00:11,320
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2450
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Speaker 2: after a Bengals win at Andy Furman FSR to follow

2451
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Speaker 2: his Whereabouts today and as you get into the week

2452
02:00:36,400 --> 02:00:39,080
Speaker 2: with me this hour, my guy Bucky Brooks years in

2453
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Speaker 2: the league working over with the Jaguars NFL dot Com,

2454
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Speaker 2: A man about town. He's got a lot going on,

2455
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Speaker 2: and Bucky, it's good to be with you once again

2456
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Speaker 2: because I have to ask you a question right off

2457
02:00:50,240 --> 02:00:53,200
Speaker 2: the jump. Are you gonna be needing me to become

2458
02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:56,720
Speaker 2: your podcast partner? Because Daniel Jeremiah goes into the front

2459
02:00:56,760 --> 02:01:01,440
Speaker 2: office with the Chargers. How do you like? Hard hitting question?

2460
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Speaker 7: That isn't that is a nice thing? I don't know.

2461
02:01:04,760 --> 02:01:06,880
Speaker 7: I mean, I hadn't thought about that, but that's I mean, look,

2462
02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:09,520
Speaker 7: that's a that's a nice hustle. That's a nice way

2463
02:01:09,560 --> 02:01:11,960
Speaker 7: to connect the dots. And maybe DJ have a chance

2464
02:01:12,040 --> 02:01:15,040
Speaker 7: to go from the booth to the front office with

2465
02:01:15,160 --> 02:01:16,680
Speaker 7: the Chargers. I mean, who knows.

2466
02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:17,360
Speaker 2: I do know this.

2467
02:01:18,160 --> 02:01:21,040
Speaker 7: The Chargers had to change their style and it's tough

2468
02:01:21,120 --> 02:01:25,560
Speaker 7: because I like Tom Telesco. He's a friend. He was

2469
02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:29,080
Speaker 7: actually an intern in Buffalo when I was first drafted

2470
02:01:29,080 --> 02:01:31,760
Speaker 7: by the Buffalo Bills, and look, I think he kind

2471
02:01:31,800 --> 02:01:36,120
Speaker 7: of gets some of the scrap metal caused by all

2472
02:01:36,240 --> 02:01:40,840
Speaker 7: of the gunshots that were levied at Brandon Staley, who

2473
02:01:40,920 --> 02:01:44,360
Speaker 7: I kind of called the smarty coach. And I think

2474
02:01:44,480 --> 02:01:47,760
Speaker 7: some of that stuff like took Tom down, you know,

2475
02:01:47,960 --> 02:01:50,720
Speaker 7: some of Brandon's decisions on the field, some of the

2476
02:01:50,840 --> 02:01:53,839
Speaker 7: things that they did when they started being super aggressive

2477
02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:57,160
Speaker 7: with analytics and they backed off of it. I think

2478
02:01:57,200 --> 02:01:58,880
Speaker 7: he kind of get caught up in the wash. I

2479
02:01:58,880 --> 02:02:01,080
Speaker 7: would say the big thing for me about the Chargers

2480
02:02:01,840 --> 02:02:06,880
Speaker 7: is I don't know their identity, right, so come hell

2481
02:02:06,960 --> 02:02:09,160
Speaker 7: of high water, no matter what if you close your eyes,

2482
02:02:09,240 --> 02:02:12,840
Speaker 7: Mike Harmon and I said, Chicago Bears in your mind,

2483
02:02:12,920 --> 02:02:15,480
Speaker 7: there's a style of play that's associated with the Bears.

2484
02:02:15,640 --> 02:02:17,880
Speaker 7: Like we could talk about the execution of it, but

2485
02:02:18,040 --> 02:02:20,560
Speaker 7: you expected to be kind of a physical team, a

2486
02:02:20,640 --> 02:02:22,920
Speaker 7: team that's a little gritty. The players on the team

2487
02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:25,920
Speaker 7: have more of a blue collar demeanor. When I think

2488
02:02:25,960 --> 02:02:29,880
Speaker 7: about the Chargers, I don't really have that. You know,

2489
02:02:30,600 --> 02:02:32,960
Speaker 7: Raiders have a clear identity, you know what I'm saying.

2490
02:02:33,040 --> 02:02:34,800
Speaker 7: Like the Chiefs, you kind of for a long time

2491
02:02:34,880 --> 02:02:37,520
Speaker 7: knew what their identity was, even the new school Miami

2492
02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:40,760
Speaker 7: Dolphins kind of fun and throw it around and all

2493
02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:44,400
Speaker 7: that other stuff. But the Chargers, they haven't really had

2494
02:02:44,480 --> 02:02:46,840
Speaker 7: an identity in my mind since the days of Marty

2495
02:02:46,880 --> 02:02:51,400
Speaker 7: Schottenheimer and whoever takes this over. The first thing we

2496
02:02:51,520 --> 02:02:54,560
Speaker 7: need to know is who are the Chargers, how are

2497
02:02:54,600 --> 02:02:56,160
Speaker 7: they going to play? And what can we expect to

2498
02:02:56,200 --> 02:02:56,880
Speaker 7: see each week.

2499
02:02:57,680 --> 02:03:01,040
Speaker 2: No, it's a difficult proposition. Watch you get Thursday night

2500
02:03:01,320 --> 02:03:05,840
Speaker 2: game against the Las Vegas Raiders. They've been shut out

2501
02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:09,080
Speaker 2: in some really paint watch the paint dry on your

2502
02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:12,600
Speaker 2: wall football in that game against Minnesota. Now, it's it's

2503
02:03:12,720 --> 02:03:15,920
Speaker 2: close late, and I'd liking to see guys, you know,

2504
02:03:16,160 --> 02:03:19,200
Speaker 2: network and nationwide come along to the theory Smith and

2505
02:03:19,240 --> 02:03:22,000
Speaker 2: I have had for the NBA and for the NFL

2506
02:03:22,120 --> 02:03:25,000
Speaker 2: for a very long time. It may not be esthetically pleasing,

2507
02:03:25,320 --> 02:03:27,680
Speaker 2: but if it's close late, you're inched up in your

2508
02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:29,640
Speaker 2: seat and you're ready to watch how it's gonna finish.

2509
02:03:30,240 --> 02:03:32,960
Speaker 2: So that was that game a week ago. But their

2510
02:03:33,040 --> 02:03:36,080
Speaker 2: offense had been anemic, right. They had a little bit

2511
02:03:36,160 --> 02:03:39,160
Speaker 2: of juice when when Pierce first got the job, but

2512
02:03:39,320 --> 02:03:43,000
Speaker 2: offensively they've been a disaster going on several weeks and

2513
02:03:43,120 --> 02:03:47,280
Speaker 2: then you have the absolute no show from the Chargers. Again,

2514
02:03:47,400 --> 02:03:53,240
Speaker 2: some questionable coaching decisions and et cetera, but at no

2515
02:03:53,400 --> 02:03:55,760
Speaker 2: point did it ever feel like they came to play

2516
02:03:55,840 --> 02:03:58,600
Speaker 2: that football game. And that's a really sad place to

2517
02:03:58,680 --> 02:04:02,120
Speaker 2: be when you've got games left. I mean, you've pretty

2518
02:04:02,160 --> 02:04:05,320
Speaker 2: much written the epitaph for your coach. And I'll give

2519
02:04:05,400 --> 02:04:10,520
Speaker 2: the Chargers brass and executives and ownership credit. You know

2520
02:04:10,640 --> 02:04:13,880
Speaker 2: that there is at least an attempt at affected change

2521
02:04:14,160 --> 02:04:16,760
Speaker 2: now identity wise, Yeah, I don't know what it is.

2522
02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:19,520
Speaker 2: It's justin Herbert and a bunch of guys. At this point,

2523
02:04:19,840 --> 02:04:23,480
Speaker 2: you thought the defense would be maybe not because of

2524
02:04:23,560 --> 02:04:26,320
Speaker 2: Brandon Staley, but in spite of him, that you had

2525
02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:29,080
Speaker 2: spent money on that side of the ball, that maybe

2526
02:04:29,120 --> 02:04:32,480
Speaker 2: it would cobble things together. But again, Bosa hurt, Miss

2527
02:04:32,560 --> 02:04:35,240
Speaker 2: Irwin James at times here and there, all your big

2528
02:04:35,360 --> 02:04:38,840
Speaker 2: time guys, and Khalil Mack is either really into a

2529
02:04:38,920 --> 02:04:42,360
Speaker 2: game and affecting a game, or he's got a cloak

2530
02:04:42,400 --> 02:04:45,320
Speaker 2: of invisibility like Harry Potter on there, and that it

2531
02:04:45,400 --> 02:04:48,080
Speaker 2: was certainly the case. Oh, I mean, look he's there,

2532
02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:50,360
Speaker 2: but he's not right. So I mean that was Thursday

2533
02:04:50,440 --> 02:04:54,840
Speaker 2: night in getting beaten around, and so you know we're

2534
02:04:54,920 --> 02:04:56,720
Speaker 2: on airon as soon as at the end of the

2535
02:04:56,800 --> 02:05:00,360
Speaker 2: third quarter, and clearly I don't have the AUDI, but

2536
02:05:00,440 --> 02:05:05,600
Speaker 2: there's a very long shot of Dean Spanos at the game,

2537
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:08,160
Speaker 2: and then they leave him up as they continue the

2538
02:05:08,240 --> 02:05:10,840
Speaker 2: conversation and put him in like you know, the picture

2539
02:05:10,920 --> 02:05:14,200
Speaker 2: and picture lower box as the action continues, like they're

2540
02:05:14,240 --> 02:05:16,800
Speaker 2: having the long talk of how they need to fire

2541
02:05:17,160 --> 02:05:20,280
Speaker 2: Brandon Staley after this game right now, And sure enough

2542
02:05:20,320 --> 02:05:22,720
Speaker 2: it became the all right, sort of damn acles, when

2543
02:05:22,760 --> 02:05:26,720
Speaker 2: does that rope finally fall? And we saw it on Friday,

2544
02:05:26,800 --> 02:05:29,879
Speaker 2: So now it becomes the all right, what's the next iteration?

2545
02:05:30,200 --> 02:05:33,520
Speaker 2: Because by firing him, that went against anything they've done,

2546
02:05:33,920 --> 02:05:36,240
Speaker 2: you know, as a franchise since what ninety eight I

2547
02:05:36,320 --> 02:05:39,680
Speaker 2: think was the last time a coach was fired with

2548
02:05:39,760 --> 02:05:42,200
Speaker 2: any time on the contract, because that's been the discussion

2549
02:05:42,280 --> 02:05:46,080
Speaker 2: in Chicago. And now suddenly you have the surge of Eberflus.

2550
02:05:46,360 --> 02:05:49,280
Speaker 2: So the Bears brass can sit around with the Montgomery

2551
02:05:49,360 --> 02:05:52,600
Speaker 2: Burns excellent because they won't have to dismiss him because

2552
02:05:52,640 --> 02:05:56,000
Speaker 2: now the guys are playing inspired, good football, especially on

2553
02:05:56,080 --> 02:05:59,800
Speaker 2: the defensive end since Montes sweat arrive. But for the Charges,

2554
02:05:59,840 --> 02:06:03,840
Speaker 2: you can at least see at the top they recognize

2555
02:06:03,840 --> 02:06:04,920
Speaker 2: the change has to come.

2556
02:06:06,640 --> 02:06:10,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, the Chargers did do it because here's here's what

2557
02:06:10,120 --> 02:06:11,560
Speaker 7: I say about a lot of those teams and the

2558
02:06:11,640 --> 02:06:13,680
Speaker 7: Bears are in this same boat. And people don't like

2559
02:06:13,760 --> 02:06:16,400
Speaker 7: to acknowledge us, right. They like to throw it around like, oh,

2560
02:06:16,440 --> 02:06:18,280
Speaker 7: we're just gonna fire them. But when you fire somebody,

2561
02:06:18,720 --> 02:06:22,080
Speaker 7: you owe them the remaining balance of their contract. And

2562
02:06:22,320 --> 02:06:25,920
Speaker 7: so it's not just the head coach, it's all of

2563
02:06:26,040 --> 02:06:28,840
Speaker 7: the assistant coaches. And that can run up a pretty

2564
02:06:28,880 --> 02:06:33,360
Speaker 7: big tab. For teams like the Bears and the Chargers,

2565
02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:36,640
Speaker 7: where the team is the family business. You don't have

2566
02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:39,120
Speaker 7: a lot of just cash that you can just throw around.

2567
02:06:39,640 --> 02:06:43,440
Speaker 7: It's different if you are a looking owner like Jerry

2568
02:06:43,480 --> 02:06:45,200
Speaker 7: Jones who has deep pockets, where you're like, hey man,

2569
02:06:45,200 --> 02:06:46,880
Speaker 7: it doesn't matter to me. I want you out the building,

2570
02:06:47,200 --> 02:06:50,120
Speaker 7: and I'll pay for it. Woody Johnson, you know I'll

2571
02:06:50,160 --> 02:06:52,000
Speaker 7: pay for it. Doesn't matter how much it costs. I'll

2572
02:06:52,040 --> 02:06:53,760
Speaker 7: pay for you and all your buddies to get out.

2573
02:06:53,920 --> 02:06:57,720
Speaker 2: Well, look at Tepper, like nineteen guys before before it's

2574
02:06:57,800 --> 02:06:59,360
Speaker 2: done the way he operates.

2575
02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:03,800
Speaker 7: Right, right, like all the money, like most franchises, in

2576
02:07:03,880 --> 02:07:06,400
Speaker 7: those franchises in particular, that they can't operate like that,

2577
02:07:06,640 --> 02:07:09,480
Speaker 7: So you have to man. It has to be really

2578
02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:11,800
Speaker 7: bad for them to get you out of the building.

2579
02:07:12,320 --> 02:07:16,000
Speaker 7: That's why, Look, it might have been time for the charges,

2580
02:07:16,320 --> 02:07:20,040
Speaker 7: but that's why I don't see this going differently from

2581
02:07:20,040 --> 02:07:23,080
Speaker 7: Matt Eberflus in Chicago. I don't care what on the

2582
02:07:23,160 --> 02:07:26,160
Speaker 7: outside they're speculating. That's a lot of money to fork over.

2583
02:07:26,240 --> 02:07:28,080
Speaker 7: It's it for a guy only in the second year

2584
02:07:28,080 --> 02:07:28,480
Speaker 7: of his deal.

2585
02:07:28,880 --> 02:07:31,560
Speaker 2: No, that's it right, It's it becomes the we'll we'll

2586
02:07:31,720 --> 02:07:34,800
Speaker 2: swallow it. Try to figure out a way to navigate

2587
02:07:34,840 --> 02:07:37,400
Speaker 2: this and make it better and certainly winning games and

2588
02:07:37,480 --> 02:07:39,680
Speaker 2: the defense being alive. And as I look at the

2589
02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:42,880
Speaker 2: graphics on NFL network, asn't coming to you, hear from

2590
02:07:42,920 --> 02:07:45,480
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports radio studios they just had the in

2591
02:07:45,600 --> 02:07:48,440
Speaker 2: the hunt graphic and get guess what, the Giants and

2592
02:07:48,520 --> 02:07:51,480
Speaker 2: Bears are down there left for deads right at the bottom,

2593
02:07:51,960 --> 02:07:55,440
Speaker 2: but they get to be on there. Only two teams

2594
02:07:55,840 --> 02:07:59,200
Speaker 2: actually mathematically eliminated at this point. So you know, we

2595
02:08:00,040 --> 02:08:02,440
Speaker 2: say and there's a chance. Hey, if you like using

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2602
02:08:21,560 --> 02:08:24,400
Speaker 2: the way we started our fun and excitement here for

2603
02:08:24,640 --> 02:08:28,280
Speaker 2: for Week fifteen of the NFL season, A sixty three

2604
02:08:28,520 --> 02:08:32,600
Speaker 2: twenty one burial, And you know you're wringing your hands

2605
02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:35,640
Speaker 2: because you know you're getting towards the end of the year.

2606
02:08:35,920 --> 02:08:39,200
Speaker 2: You want competitiveness, and you know when you have a

2607
02:08:39,320 --> 02:08:42,920
Speaker 2: team that obviously has checked out on a coach. I

2608
02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:45,320
Speaker 2: mean there's I don't know that we've seen a more

2609
02:08:45,880 --> 02:08:51,160
Speaker 2: demonstrative example of that in recent memory. Bucky made Division

2610
02:08:51,280 --> 02:08:54,480
Speaker 2: Game on the road Primetime and everything else.

2611
02:08:55,240 --> 02:08:59,920
Speaker 7: It's like, wow, yeah, yeah, we hadn't. We haven't seen

2612
02:09:00,080 --> 02:09:02,440
Speaker 7: many of those. I'm beyondest we I haven't seen anything

2613
02:09:02,560 --> 02:09:06,720
Speaker 7: like that, Like to me, I think they reference it

2614
02:09:06,840 --> 02:09:10,200
Speaker 7: like uh hear Dan Patrick, you guys talk about like

2615
02:09:10,480 --> 02:09:12,400
Speaker 7: a running clock. Yeah, it was much like a high

2616
02:09:12,400 --> 02:09:15,240
Speaker 7: school game where it's forty two zip at the half

2617
02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:18,200
Speaker 7: and you're like, man, hey, can we because normally what

2618
02:09:18,320 --> 02:09:22,040
Speaker 7: happens in those instances the referee come over, so he's like, hey, coach,

2619
02:09:23,200 --> 02:09:25,520
Speaker 7: you know, we're looking at the score. It's forty two.

2620
02:09:26,320 --> 02:09:27,680
Speaker 7: Do you mind if we run the clock.

2621
02:09:28,000 --> 02:09:31,200
Speaker 2: And then yeah, let's get out healthy?

2622
02:09:31,480 --> 02:09:33,840
Speaker 7: Is that yeah, it's that. It is that. It is

2623
02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:38,160
Speaker 7: that like disappointing acknowledgement, like yeah, go ahead.

2624
02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:42,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, you know bride Bride says no for

2625
02:09:42,920 --> 02:09:45,840
Speaker 2: about third three seconds. Then you look over at the

2626
02:09:45,920 --> 02:09:49,400
Speaker 2: bench and these guys are staring at the grass. There's

2627
02:09:49,480 --> 02:09:52,720
Speaker 2: no chatter, there's no yeah, no, just uh yeah. Yeah.

2628
02:09:52,760 --> 02:09:54,840
Speaker 2: That was That was an awful start. And then we

2629
02:09:55,000 --> 02:09:58,760
Speaker 2: have the situation in Pittsburgh, which we'll get into, uh

2630
02:09:58,920 --> 02:10:00,960
Speaker 2: in a moment. Some good you know from from Mike

2631
02:10:01,040 --> 02:10:06,120
Speaker 2: Tomlin from from yesterday's loss to Indiana Indianapolis Uh and

2632
02:10:06,440 --> 02:10:10,040
Speaker 2: Gardner minshew Uh. You mentioned Stich and we were talking

2633
02:10:10,040 --> 02:10:12,680
Speaker 2: about that a little bit with the the Eagles, and

2634
02:10:13,600 --> 02:10:15,600
Speaker 2: for the early part of the season it was something

2635
02:10:15,720 --> 02:10:17,360
Speaker 2: you know, we banged the druma I think a lot.

2636
02:10:17,520 --> 02:10:20,560
Speaker 2: You and I here on the show here Sunday Mornings

2637
02:10:20,600 --> 02:10:23,000
Speaker 2: of You know, that's a pretty big loss for the

2638
02:10:23,120 --> 02:10:28,360
Speaker 2: way they had operated to change out I I think

2639
02:10:28,640 --> 02:10:33,720
Speaker 2: for the NFL sometimes we dismiss how much coordinators can mean. Right,

2640
02:10:33,800 --> 02:10:35,320
Speaker 2: It's like, all right, we flipped the head coach. Well,

2641
02:10:35,360 --> 02:10:38,960
Speaker 2: if if a guy's seeing a different offensive coordinator every

2642
02:10:39,040 --> 02:10:42,000
Speaker 2: year every other year and going in, you know, it

2643
02:10:42,120 --> 02:10:44,760
Speaker 2: becomes that kind of situation. So I tie it with

2644
02:10:44,840 --> 02:10:47,040
Speaker 2: the Chargers, like, what do you do with Kellen Moore?

2645
02:10:49,320 --> 02:10:50,480
Speaker 2: Maybe he's one and done?

2646
02:10:50,720 --> 02:10:50,920
Speaker 13: Wow?

2647
02:10:51,680 --> 02:10:56,560
Speaker 2: Right, I mean like right, I mean he get to sell.

2648
02:10:58,360 --> 02:11:01,640
Speaker 7: So so here's the thing about Kellen More And look,

2649
02:11:01,960 --> 02:11:04,080
Speaker 7: it's a bad it's a bad nugget on the resume.

2650
02:11:04,520 --> 02:11:11,000
Speaker 7: So the team that he left got better, The quarterback

2651
02:11:11,240 --> 02:11:16,200
Speaker 7: is playing the best that he since since you left

2652
02:11:16,960 --> 02:11:20,720
Speaker 7: the team that you go to implos and the quarterback

2653
02:11:20,760 --> 02:11:26,720
Speaker 7: that you inherited plays worse. Not a great thing on

2654
02:11:26,920 --> 02:11:32,520
Speaker 7: your resume. And I don't know, I just yeah, man,

2655
02:11:32,560 --> 02:11:35,160
Speaker 7: that's he's a hard sale. Now, it's not. It's not

2656
02:11:35,320 --> 02:11:37,640
Speaker 7: what we thought it would be because going in, we

2657
02:11:37,720 --> 02:11:40,440
Speaker 7: thought it would be, Oh, you know, Kellen Moore's there,

2658
02:11:40,600 --> 02:11:43,080
Speaker 7: he'll inherit it. If it implos he'll take over for

2659
02:11:43,160 --> 02:11:47,440
Speaker 7: Brandon Staley. They have already made answer in place. I

2660
02:11:47,520 --> 02:11:49,760
Speaker 7: thought it was interesting that they didn't name him the

2661
02:11:49,880 --> 02:11:55,240
Speaker 7: inter room To me, that's telling they didn't name him

2662
02:11:55,280 --> 02:11:56,120
Speaker 7: the interroom coach.

2663
02:11:56,560 --> 02:11:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because the offense has been sputtering for a

2664
02:11:59,720 --> 02:12:02,920
Speaker 2: couple of weeks before the Herbert injury, Like that's lost

2665
02:12:02,960 --> 02:12:05,120
Speaker 2: in a lot of this, right because it's been about Staley,

2666
02:12:05,240 --> 02:12:09,360
Speaker 2: his defiance the defense. And look, it's a weird year

2667
02:12:09,480 --> 02:12:12,800
Speaker 2: for those that haven't followed the Chargers full And obviously

2668
02:12:12,960 --> 02:12:15,600
Speaker 2: I'm based here. We're based here in Los Angeles, so

2669
02:12:15,840 --> 02:12:18,840
Speaker 2: maybe we're paying attention to it a little bit more

2670
02:12:19,240 --> 02:12:21,120
Speaker 2: other than most. And we like to think we give

2671
02:12:21,240 --> 02:12:24,440
Speaker 2: everybody their equal time and efforts. But sometimes you know,

2672
02:12:24,520 --> 02:12:27,160
Speaker 2: when there's a floating dumpster fire, you're gonna watch it

2673
02:12:27,240 --> 02:12:29,320
Speaker 2: float by and try to figure it out. And that's

2674
02:12:29,400 --> 02:12:31,320
Speaker 2: kind of what we watched here, is that you had

2675
02:12:31,400 --> 02:12:35,240
Speaker 2: some weeks where the defense played some good, incompetence, competent football,

2676
02:12:35,560 --> 02:12:37,920
Speaker 2: and anybody that was doing the hey, it's trending better

2677
02:12:38,000 --> 02:12:40,240
Speaker 2: because of a six to nothing win over the Patriots.

2678
02:12:41,520 --> 02:12:45,839
Speaker 2: I don't know that I've ever heard worse one liners

2679
02:12:46,080 --> 02:12:48,040
Speaker 2: included in where a team is trending.

2680
02:12:49,200 --> 02:12:54,120
Speaker 7: Well, that's what I thought. That was also a telling

2681
02:12:54,840 --> 02:12:58,840
Speaker 7: after they win and you should celebrate all wins. But

2682
02:12:58,960 --> 02:13:02,120
Speaker 7: Brandon Staley talking about like everything that was said, like

2683
02:13:02,200 --> 02:13:04,480
Speaker 7: everything that was done and look how this team is

2684
02:13:04,560 --> 02:13:06,800
Speaker 7: and this and that, I'm like, hold on, man, did

2685
02:13:06,880 --> 02:13:10,880
Speaker 7: I not just see a six zero win against the

2686
02:13:10,960 --> 02:13:12,720
Speaker 7: team that was I mean they only had two wins

2687
02:13:12,720 --> 02:13:16,360
Speaker 7: at the time, Like what whoa okay, herey coach, you

2688
02:13:16,480 --> 02:13:16,760
Speaker 7: got it?

2689
02:13:17,320 --> 02:13:19,960
Speaker 2: But Fowers for that win?

2690
02:13:20,120 --> 02:13:20,240
Speaker 11: Man?

2691
02:13:20,440 --> 02:13:25,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, he did, he did, he did, And so

2692
02:13:25,200 --> 02:13:27,920
Speaker 7: it just seemed like this team didn't have it. And

2693
02:13:28,040 --> 02:13:31,000
Speaker 7: people are talking about the personnel moves and you know,

2694
02:13:31,360 --> 02:13:33,680
Speaker 7: just the injuries because the other thing is that too.

2695
02:13:34,600 --> 02:13:37,960
Speaker 7: But this team has been bitten by the injury buck

2696
02:13:38,000 --> 02:13:38,880
Speaker 7: the last few monks.

2697
02:13:38,960 --> 02:13:40,200
Speaker 2: That's what I want to ask you.

2698
02:13:40,320 --> 02:13:41,680
Speaker 7: But what is it?

2699
02:13:41,760 --> 02:13:43,720
Speaker 2: Because we've talked about it for a long time, you

2700
02:13:43,760 --> 02:13:46,280
Speaker 2: and I and they actually had changed out their head trainer.

2701
02:13:46,720 --> 02:13:48,760
Speaker 2: Like I don't know if everybody listened to us here

2702
02:13:49,360 --> 02:13:52,040
Speaker 2: in front offices at Fox Sports Radio, because we banged

2703
02:13:52,080 --> 02:13:55,160
Speaker 2: on that drum and I was the guy out front,

2704
02:13:55,480 --> 02:13:59,040
Speaker 2: I mean with the giant you know, Greatest Showman kind

2705
02:13:59,080 --> 02:14:01,839
Speaker 2: of speech about it. Because both the Chargers and Ravens

2706
02:14:02,320 --> 02:14:05,240
Speaker 2: changed out their head trainers, and Ravens have still had

2707
02:14:05,280 --> 02:14:07,400
Speaker 2: some issues. But for the Chargers, the amount of miss

2708
02:14:07,600 --> 02:14:11,240
Speaker 2: games by starters, Man, it goes back a long time.

2709
02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:14,120
Speaker 2: And so trying to figure out, you know, you gave

2710
02:14:14,240 --> 02:14:17,080
Speaker 2: the sage brush that Kyrie Irving was walking around with,

2711
02:14:17,520 --> 02:14:19,720
Speaker 2: they got some bad, bad demons.

2712
02:14:19,760 --> 02:14:26,920
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know, Yeah, Harman, look, I don't know.

2713
02:14:27,040 --> 02:14:29,480
Speaker 7: I don't I don't get it. I don't understand it.

2714
02:14:30,320 --> 02:14:32,240
Speaker 7: But when you have the amount of injuries that they've

2715
02:14:32,280 --> 02:14:34,560
Speaker 7: had the last couple of years to their stars, you

2716
02:14:34,680 --> 02:14:37,920
Speaker 7: do have to look at, well, what has been our approach,

2717
02:14:38,520 --> 02:14:42,520
Speaker 7: how what is our strengthen training program, strength and inditioning program?

2718
02:14:42,720 --> 02:14:45,080
Speaker 7: Like are we doing too much? Are we not doing enough?

2719
02:14:45,240 --> 02:14:49,320
Speaker 7: Are guys not physically ready for the season when it happens? Coaches?

2720
02:14:49,880 --> 02:14:52,480
Speaker 7: What's going on in practice? Are we doing too much?

2721
02:14:53,080 --> 02:14:56,440
Speaker 7: Not enough? It's too physical, not enough physicality? Are we

2722
02:14:56,520 --> 02:14:59,240
Speaker 7: running them enough? Are we overrunning them? All of those

2723
02:14:59,320 --> 02:15:01,000
Speaker 7: things are in play. And then the final part is

2724
02:15:01,440 --> 02:15:05,040
Speaker 7: when we're drafting these players. Are we drafting players that

2725
02:15:05,160 --> 02:15:09,480
Speaker 7: have medical histories and risks already coming into the building,

2726
02:15:09,880 --> 02:15:12,760
Speaker 7: guys that we know we're kind of on borrowed time,

2727
02:15:13,280 --> 02:15:15,360
Speaker 7: because if we're doing all of those things or any

2728
02:15:15,360 --> 02:15:17,480
Speaker 7: of those things, you have to make changes to the

2729
02:15:17,520 --> 02:15:20,640
Speaker 7: way that your organization is operating. Because it's been a problem,

2730
02:15:20,960 --> 02:15:22,520
Speaker 7: and it's been one of the problems that have kept

2731
02:15:22,560 --> 02:15:23,520
Speaker 7: them from maximized their.

2732
02:15:23,440 --> 02:15:27,960
Speaker 2: Potential between the injuries and the coaching hires, right, because

2733
02:15:27,960 --> 02:15:34,360
Speaker 2: they've always gone cheap and fresh faced at the position

2734
02:15:34,520 --> 02:15:38,720
Speaker 2: there for the Chargers, it's curious to see, right because

2735
02:15:38,720 --> 02:15:41,000
Speaker 2: the favorites right now in the clubhouse on the betting

2736
02:15:41,040 --> 02:15:45,880
Speaker 2: odds are Belichick and Jim Harbaugh, both with many demands

2737
02:15:46,360 --> 02:15:49,800
Speaker 2: I'm sure in terms of personnel and management and everything

2738
02:15:49,840 --> 02:15:52,040
Speaker 2: else if they were to come on board our ball.

2739
02:15:52,200 --> 02:15:55,080
Speaker 2: You know, we remember how things were in San Francisco,

2740
02:15:55,520 --> 02:15:58,320
Speaker 2: and Trent Balky's a guy who you know, they got

2741
02:15:58,400 --> 02:16:01,040
Speaker 2: into it quite a bit. And then certainly Belichick, I

2742
02:16:01,160 --> 02:16:04,440
Speaker 2: love the coach. I've been arguing for a separation of

2743
02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:07,000
Speaker 2: church and state for a long time. Just get a

2744
02:16:07,080 --> 02:16:09,200
Speaker 2: personnel guy to help you with stuff other than your

2745
02:16:09,320 --> 02:16:12,400
Speaker 2: dog at the draft. See what I did there, circle

2746
02:16:12,440 --> 02:16:15,240
Speaker 2: the circle the dog into things. But you know, Tom

2747
02:16:15,280 --> 02:16:17,960
Speaker 2: to a lasco. Does he get another job or does

2748
02:16:18,360 --> 02:16:22,400
Speaker 2: you know some of these these injury issues, under performance

2749
02:16:22,520 --> 02:16:26,440
Speaker 2: the coaches, you know, does that fall on him? Like

2750
02:16:26,520 --> 02:16:30,120
Speaker 2: the decision with Brandon Staley, Well.

2751
02:16:30,120 --> 02:16:32,440
Speaker 7: He won't get an immediate general manager job, but he'll

2752
02:16:32,480 --> 02:16:35,400
Speaker 7: have like a choice of jobs to jump into if

2753
02:16:35,400 --> 02:16:37,640
Speaker 7: he wants to do that. Like he has a year

2754
02:16:37,800 --> 02:16:40,400
Speaker 7: on his deal he has I think is his youngest

2755
02:16:41,000 --> 02:16:42,880
Speaker 7: is maybe a junior in high school. He may just

2756
02:16:42,959 --> 02:16:44,800
Speaker 7: kind of kick his you know, kick back and just

2757
02:16:44,879 --> 02:16:47,040
Speaker 7: kind of, hey, let me assess what I want to do.

2758
02:16:47,120 --> 02:16:49,360
Speaker 7: We had an opportunity to talk to Dave ziegler uh

2759
02:16:49,760 --> 02:16:52,960
Speaker 7: from the Raiders, formerly of the Raiders, and he had

2760
02:16:53,040 --> 02:16:55,080
Speaker 7: significant times. So we talked about working on his golf

2761
02:16:55,120 --> 02:16:58,040
Speaker 7: game in Vegas, taking the school, trying to you know,

2762
02:16:58,400 --> 02:17:01,040
Speaker 7: reflect and do some things. I think when you're in

2763
02:17:01,200 --> 02:17:03,040
Speaker 7: the grind for as long as those guys have been in,

2764
02:17:03,200 --> 02:17:05,760
Speaker 7: sometimes you do want to step back and see how

2765
02:17:05,800 --> 02:17:07,640
Speaker 7: could I have done this differently? What have I learned?

2766
02:17:07,680 --> 02:17:09,840
Speaker 7: What do I like, what I don't what don't I like?

2767
02:17:09,959 --> 02:17:12,280
Speaker 7: How would I do it differently? If I get another opportunity,

2768
02:17:12,360 --> 02:17:14,640
Speaker 7: and then what could give me a chance to get

2769
02:17:14,680 --> 02:17:18,040
Speaker 7: that opportunity. What's interesting the two names you brought up

2770
02:17:18,320 --> 02:17:21,160
Speaker 7: coming to LA Bill Belichick. One, he's still on the

2771
02:17:21,200 --> 02:17:23,840
Speaker 7: contract because he signed an extension before last season.

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02:17:23,959 --> 02:17:27,600
Speaker 2: I think that's what we've been told, right. It's all murky, Yeah, So.

2773
02:17:30,280 --> 02:17:33,760
Speaker 7: It could be a trade situation that would have to

2774
02:17:35,200 --> 02:17:38,240
Speaker 7: happen to be able to get those services. The Patriots

2775
02:17:38,280 --> 02:17:40,720
Speaker 7: would get a pick back for sending the coach that

2776
02:17:40,840 --> 02:17:45,039
Speaker 7: they don't want to you. So that could be a situation.

2777
02:17:45,240 --> 02:17:49,160
Speaker 7: And then Harbaugh coming back to LA with his fanous

2778
02:17:50,000 --> 02:17:52,280
Speaker 7: can they pay him what he wants to get paid,

2779
02:17:52,360 --> 02:17:55,640
Speaker 7: Will they be willing to pay someone that he would

2780
02:17:55,680 --> 02:17:57,800
Speaker 7: have to bring down to be his general manager? And

2781
02:17:57,920 --> 02:18:02,360
Speaker 7: can they stay out the way? There's some family members

2782
02:18:02,400 --> 02:18:05,160
Speaker 7: that work within the organization and those things like how

2783
02:18:05,240 --> 02:18:09,520
Speaker 7: does all of that look? But whoever takes over to me,

2784
02:18:09,600 --> 02:18:11,560
Speaker 7: it has to be an experienced coach, a coach who

2785
02:18:11,720 --> 02:18:15,000
Speaker 7: has some pilts on the wall because they've done it.

2786
02:18:15,080 --> 02:18:17,440
Speaker 7: The last two times Anthony Lynn and Brandon Stately were

2787
02:18:17,480 --> 02:18:21,000
Speaker 7: first time head coaches, respectively. This time, you want to

2788
02:18:21,080 --> 02:18:24,959
Speaker 7: coach that's done it, that's gone through it, that understands

2789
02:18:25,000 --> 02:18:27,760
Speaker 7: it at a deeper level, so you can build the team,

2790
02:18:28,000 --> 02:18:30,080
Speaker 7: the culture, reset the organization.

2791
02:18:30,760 --> 02:18:32,880
Speaker 2: All right, that's a conversation. We'll put a pin in that,

2792
02:18:33,000 --> 02:18:37,120
Speaker 2: because resetting a culture, re establishing a culture, getting a

2793
02:18:37,160 --> 02:18:39,280
Speaker 2: guy to block in a goal line situation, all of

2794
02:18:39,360 --> 02:18:42,200
Speaker 2: those things and more related to the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's

2795
02:18:42,280 --> 02:18:45,240
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks, I'm Mike Harmon. Here. We are brought to

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2800
02:18:57,320 --> 02:19:00,600
Speaker 2: from Mike Tomlin after the loss to the cults. Where

2801
02:19:00,680 --> 02:19:01,120
Speaker 2: do we go?

2802
02:19:01,400 --> 02:19:01,560
Speaker 11: Now?

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02:19:01,920 --> 02:19:04,280
Speaker 2: Where do we go? I'll do my best Axel Rose

2804
02:19:04,320 --> 02:19:06,360
Speaker 2: a little bit later, it's still too early. I need

2805
02:19:06,440 --> 02:19:10,600
Speaker 2: more coffee. It's Fox Football Sunday. I feel like Mark,

2806
02:19:11,040 --> 02:19:13,840
Speaker 2: our technical producer, picked this one especially for me. Hi,

2807
02:19:13,959 --> 02:19:17,560
Speaker 2: welcome back in Mike Carbon Bucky Brooks with you here.

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02:19:17,600 --> 02:19:21,000
Speaker 2: It's Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. We're gonna get

2809
02:19:21,000 --> 02:19:23,240
Speaker 2: to our guy, Isaac Lowincron in just a couple of

2810
02:19:23,320 --> 02:19:25,480
Speaker 2: minutes for the updates as we come to you live

2811
02:19:25,680 --> 02:19:28,920
Speaker 2: from the tirac dot Com studios at Bucky Brooks, where

2812
02:19:28,959 --> 02:19:31,640
Speaker 2: you find him on Twitter and of course you follow

2813
02:19:31,840 --> 02:19:35,840
Speaker 2: all his writings over at NFL dot Com. He's got

2814
02:19:35,920 --> 02:19:39,320
Speaker 2: the big game later on tonight, Baltimore Jacksonville. I know

2815
02:19:39,400 --> 02:19:42,560
Speaker 2: where I'll be nice frosty beverage and kicking my feet

2816
02:19:42,640 --> 02:19:46,360
Speaker 2: up to two of my favorite teams to watch. You know,

2817
02:19:46,480 --> 02:19:49,199
Speaker 2: we love you, Bucky, but the you know, the Jaguars

2818
02:19:49,240 --> 02:19:52,040
Speaker 2: were my preseason pick. Maybe part of it was I

2819
02:19:52,120 --> 02:19:54,560
Speaker 2: was trying to curry favor with you. And I've been

2820
02:19:54,600 --> 02:19:57,800
Speaker 2: doing spots in Baltimore, some of the first radio hits,

2821
02:19:57,800 --> 02:20:00,160
Speaker 2: So I've got a little bit of a low for

2822
02:20:00,240 --> 02:20:03,520
Speaker 2: the charms city there as well, based on the long

2823
02:20:03,600 --> 02:20:07,960
Speaker 2: standing relationships and the I love both these quarterbacks, the

2824
02:20:08,080 --> 02:20:10,560
Speaker 2: two guys that I kind of root for on the

2825
02:20:10,680 --> 02:20:13,640
Speaker 2: larger standpoint, and the fact that you know they're both upright,

2826
02:20:13,680 --> 02:20:17,320
Speaker 2: and even Trevor Lawrence within you know the injuries and

2827
02:20:17,520 --> 02:20:21,240
Speaker 2: hits that he's taken. He's like the old the watch Right.

2828
02:20:21,480 --> 02:20:24,520
Speaker 2: It takes a licking, keeps on tickets. See, I'm bringing

2829
02:20:24,600 --> 02:20:26,520
Speaker 2: back all the ads back when you were forced to

2830
02:20:26,600 --> 02:20:30,640
Speaker 2: watch commercials in the day exactly, all right, So you

2831
02:20:30,720 --> 02:20:34,240
Speaker 2: know we're talking a lot about culture and the Chargers.

2832
02:20:34,280 --> 02:20:36,520
Speaker 2: Where do they go? We talked a lot about the

2833
02:20:36,640 --> 02:20:40,600
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears last hour with our guy Andy from the podcast.

2834
02:20:40,680 --> 02:20:42,560
Speaker 2: He'll be up the end of the hour. You can

2835
02:20:42,600 --> 02:20:45,160
Speaker 2: get it all and revisit it as well as game

2836
02:20:45,240 --> 02:20:48,280
Speaker 2: analysis game picks from what Andy and Bucky had done

2837
02:20:48,959 --> 02:20:51,840
Speaker 2: in the first two hours of the extended block. But

2838
02:20:52,040 --> 02:20:53,960
Speaker 2: I want to go to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Here a

2839
02:20:54,080 --> 02:20:58,120
Speaker 2: thirty to thirteen loss, Trubisky replaced by Mason Rudolph, so

2840
02:20:58,240 --> 02:21:00,840
Speaker 2: it looked like, at least in theory gets another bite

2841
02:21:00,879 --> 02:21:03,560
Speaker 2: at the apple these last couple of weeks. But after

2842
02:21:03,640 --> 02:21:07,920
Speaker 2: the loss, here's an answer from Mike Tomlin, not just

2843
02:21:08,040 --> 02:21:09,199
Speaker 2: the game, but where we're at.

2844
02:21:10,560 --> 02:21:12,360
Speaker 7: Fundamentally poor football group right now.

2845
02:21:12,440 --> 02:21:17,320
Speaker 6: We're playing losing football, and I take responsibility for that.

2846
02:21:18,400 --> 02:21:22,039
Speaker 6: By losing football, I mean we're just not doing fundamental

2847
02:21:22,120 --> 02:21:22,960
Speaker 6: things well enough.

2848
02:21:23,240 --> 02:21:25,360
Speaker 7: We're not we're turning the.

2849
02:21:25,360 --> 02:21:29,400
Speaker 6: Ball over, highly penalized, we don't play good in situations,

2850
02:21:30,120 --> 02:21:31,480
Speaker 6: and so I'm just acknowledging that.

2851
02:21:33,080 --> 02:21:35,240
Speaker 2: So that's where we're at, losers of four or five

2852
02:21:35,600 --> 02:21:39,200
Speaker 2: offense has actually been worse since Matt Canada got fired,

2853
02:21:40,080 --> 02:21:44,360
Speaker 2: So you have that right. You've got effort issues all

2854
02:21:44,480 --> 02:21:47,760
Speaker 2: around the field that play towards the goal line where

2855
02:21:47,800 --> 02:21:50,520
Speaker 2: George Pickens literally just jumps over a guy so he

2856
02:21:50,600 --> 02:21:53,200
Speaker 2: doesn't have to engage in any kind of contact. I

2857
02:21:53,320 --> 02:21:56,840
Speaker 2: showed that to my daughters, and one doesn't much worry

2858
02:21:56,840 --> 02:22:00,880
Speaker 2: about football. She loves the spectacle of it. Soccer playing

2859
02:22:00,959 --> 02:22:03,640
Speaker 2: daughter just looked at me and said, really, that's what

2860
02:22:03,760 --> 02:22:04,520
Speaker 2: he did for that guy.

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02:22:04,640 --> 02:22:04,680
Speaker 9: Go.

2862
02:22:04,959 --> 02:22:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where we're at in this football season, where

2863
02:22:08,280 --> 02:22:11,360
Speaker 2: we've got guys making those kind of plays. And now

2864
02:22:11,560 --> 02:22:15,200
Speaker 2: you know that's a got acknowledged before this game by

2865
02:22:15,280 --> 02:22:19,400
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin of you know issues and where distractions were

2866
02:22:19,480 --> 02:22:22,000
Speaker 2: sliding in. In this case, you've got a lead and

2867
02:22:22,040 --> 02:22:26,320
Speaker 2: eventually the Gardner Minshew experience takes over. But for Mike Tomlin,

2868
02:22:26,360 --> 02:22:27,920
Speaker 2: I think we can all stipulate to the fact that

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02:22:28,280 --> 02:22:33,000
Speaker 2: unless something really really changes dramatically.

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Speaker 5: I e.

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02:22:33,400 --> 02:22:37,360
Speaker 2: Somebody has the secret codes and takes over the organization,

2872
02:22:37,760 --> 02:22:40,120
Speaker 2: he ain't getting fired. But how do you reset it

2873
02:22:40,200 --> 02:22:40,760
Speaker 2: at this point?

2874
02:22:40,840 --> 02:22:45,640
Speaker 7: Bucky Oh to me, Andy, what you do is you

2875
02:22:45,720 --> 02:22:48,440
Speaker 7: look at all the issues, right and I'm sure Mike

2876
02:22:48,480 --> 02:22:51,560
Speaker 7: Tomlin is like most coaches, he has a notebook or

2877
02:22:51,720 --> 02:22:54,879
Speaker 7: running journal that he keeps about the good the bad

2878
02:22:55,320 --> 02:22:58,360
Speaker 7: after each week, like after every day, after every game,

2879
02:22:58,440 --> 02:23:00,520
Speaker 7: you just kind of go and you jot down notes

2880
02:23:01,080 --> 02:23:02,960
Speaker 7: to remind yourself, like, hey, I gotta remember to do this,

2881
02:23:03,080 --> 02:23:05,039
Speaker 7: I got talked about this, didn't like this or whatever.

2882
02:23:05,560 --> 02:23:07,000
Speaker 7: There are a couple of things that have shown up

2883
02:23:07,040 --> 02:23:09,280
Speaker 7: to me when I think about the Steelers and where

2884
02:23:09,680 --> 02:23:13,240
Speaker 7: it may go awry. Now more than ever, particularly in

2885
02:23:13,240 --> 02:23:16,320
Speaker 7: the last couple of years, they've had more squeaky wheels

2886
02:23:16,680 --> 02:23:20,520
Speaker 7: on their team, more players chirping about the ball, Deontay

2887
02:23:20,680 --> 02:23:22,840
Speaker 7: Johnson not giving effort a couple of weeks ago against

2888
02:23:22,840 --> 02:23:26,640
Speaker 7: the Bengals up there, fumble, George Pickens having to control

2889
02:23:26,840 --> 02:23:31,480
Speaker 7: him on the sidelines, you know, the immertional outburst that

2890
02:23:31,560 --> 02:23:35,640
Speaker 7: he's had. And I would say yesterday's game turned when

2891
02:23:35,680 --> 02:23:39,360
Speaker 7: mitchter Trubisky decided, probably after all the noise, all right,

2892
02:23:39,360 --> 02:23:41,200
Speaker 7: I'm gonna throw it up and give Pickens a chance

2893
02:23:41,280 --> 02:23:43,680
Speaker 7: on this fifty to fifty y right. At some point

2894
02:23:43,840 --> 02:23:47,039
Speaker 7: he fails to come down with it. It's an interception.

2895
02:23:48,200 --> 02:23:50,640
Speaker 7: They were dominating the game prior to that point, it's

2896
02:23:50,720 --> 02:23:54,320
Speaker 7: thirteen to seven, they're moving the ball down like they

2897
02:23:54,360 --> 02:23:57,040
Speaker 7: didn't do anything after that. And so I think you

2898
02:23:57,200 --> 02:23:59,040
Speaker 7: have to look at the personnel that he has in

2899
02:23:59,160 --> 02:24:03,440
Speaker 7: terms of people. He obviously you evaluate the whatever, He'll

2900
02:24:03,520 --> 02:24:05,400
Speaker 7: check out the schemes, but I think he has to

2901
02:24:05,440 --> 02:24:08,200
Speaker 7: get to write people on the team again. Having known

2902
02:24:08,240 --> 02:24:11,560
Speaker 7: people that work in that organization, they talked about, man,

2903
02:24:11,840 --> 02:24:14,320
Speaker 7: is he a stealer? You know? And that's when me

2904
02:24:14,360 --> 02:24:16,400
Speaker 7: and Joe Green and those guys used to work in there.

2905
02:24:17,240 --> 02:24:20,520
Speaker 7: Could he played with the seventy stealers in terms of

2906
02:24:20,560 --> 02:24:26,720
Speaker 7: his demeanor, his unselfishness, his football character. They got to

2907
02:24:26,760 --> 02:24:29,040
Speaker 7: get back to having those kinds of guys. I think

2908
02:24:29,120 --> 02:24:31,400
Speaker 7: they're missing some of that in that building.

2909
02:24:32,120 --> 02:24:34,600
Speaker 2: Bucky, what did you make of the comments from Ben

2910
02:24:34,720 --> 02:24:37,720
Speaker 2: Roethlisberger this week? And obviously, but.

2911
02:24:37,800 --> 02:24:41,440
Speaker 7: First, I know he's been kind of like attention seeking.

2912
02:24:42,440 --> 02:24:45,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, and that's just shit. I remember

2913
02:24:45,360 --> 02:24:47,879
Speaker 2: towards the end of his run in Pittsburgh, people had

2914
02:24:47,920 --> 02:24:51,640
Speaker 2: a liking problem with Ben. They didn't when he was

2915
02:24:52,040 --> 02:24:55,040
Speaker 2: threatening retirement whatever, but he more or less, you know,

2916
02:24:55,160 --> 02:24:58,560
Speaker 2: they went to the game a couple of weeks ago

2917
02:24:58,760 --> 02:25:00,440
Speaker 2: that while they went to the game he and his

2918
02:25:00,600 --> 02:25:04,040
Speaker 2: kids against New England that they lost, made sure to

2919
02:25:04,200 --> 02:25:07,520
Speaker 2: say hey, I was there, And then on his podcast,

2920
02:25:07,879 --> 02:25:10,200
Speaker 2: you know, kind of talking about them losing their way,

2921
02:25:10,400 --> 02:25:13,720
Speaker 2: steeler culture and everything else. It's like, you know, you

2922
02:25:13,800 --> 02:25:16,960
Speaker 2: guys didn't exactly make life easy for Mike Tomlin. They

2923
02:25:17,000 --> 02:25:20,200
Speaker 2: won in spite of it. You know, you're threatening retirement.

2924
02:25:20,680 --> 02:25:25,080
Speaker 2: You got lev Bell and Antonio Brown over there. Great plays,

2925
02:25:25,520 --> 02:25:28,280
Speaker 2: great players, right, And that I guess goes back to it.

2926
02:25:28,560 --> 02:25:30,959
Speaker 2: You know when you look at Deontay Johnson, you look

2927
02:25:31,000 --> 02:25:33,800
Speaker 2: at George Pickens, They've got a couple of highlights, but

2928
02:25:34,080 --> 02:25:36,800
Speaker 2: you know they don't have you know, as you say,

2929
02:25:36,959 --> 02:25:39,119
Speaker 2: all the pelts on the wall to say, all right,

2930
02:25:39,480 --> 02:25:43,760
Speaker 2: they're great enough that and have shown us demonstratively through

2931
02:25:43,800 --> 02:25:45,560
Speaker 2: the years that we have to put up with a

2932
02:25:45,600 --> 02:25:47,280
Speaker 2: little bit of nonsense because we're going to get the

2933
02:25:47,320 --> 02:25:49,720
Speaker 2: performance because generally that's the way it works.

2934
02:25:49,800 --> 02:25:49,920
Speaker 1: Right.

2935
02:25:50,000 --> 02:25:53,640
Speaker 2: That take that over to the Draymond Green experience with

2936
02:25:53,800 --> 02:25:57,080
Speaker 2: the Golden State Warriors. Right, you deal with it until

2937
02:25:57,520 --> 02:26:00,600
Speaker 2: you know the the returns aren't necessarily there. But Ben

2938
02:26:00,800 --> 02:26:02,959
Speaker 2: kind of going in on culture and stuff and I'm

2939
02:26:03,000 --> 02:26:05,000
Speaker 2: raising my hand going, are you just trying to you know,

2940
02:26:05,160 --> 02:26:07,440
Speaker 2: curry something giver and become a villain because you want

2941
02:26:07,480 --> 02:26:08,480
Speaker 2: a TV job or what?

2942
02:26:10,080 --> 02:26:13,840
Speaker 7: Now I will say because I won't. I want this

2943
02:26:14,080 --> 02:26:16,960
Speaker 7: VeryE bit like his personality got on my nerves. But

2944
02:26:17,920 --> 02:26:20,840
Speaker 7: I will say this about Roethlisberger. So Roethlisberger was there

2945
02:26:20,920 --> 02:26:23,720
Speaker 7: doing a Heyday, two time Super Bowl winner. He obviously

2946
02:26:23,800 --> 02:26:28,400
Speaker 7: when he came in he was be quiet until spoken to,

2947
02:26:28,920 --> 02:26:32,000
Speaker 7: you know, because they had a good set of veterans

2948
02:26:32,080 --> 02:26:34,200
Speaker 7: that were there. So he was kind of like the

2949
02:26:34,320 --> 02:26:37,480
Speaker 7: complimentary player. Near the end of his career he became

2950
02:26:38,040 --> 02:26:39,959
Speaker 7: the focal point. But I can say the early part

2951
02:26:40,040 --> 02:26:43,520
Speaker 7: of his career, maybe the first ten years of his career,

2952
02:26:44,240 --> 02:26:47,000
Speaker 7: he was kind of, you know, like a stealer. He

2953
02:26:47,160 --> 02:26:50,200
Speaker 7: became a little sideways and diva like. But quarterbacks can

2954
02:26:50,320 --> 02:26:54,080
Speaker 7: do that. The difference is now with Deontay Johnson and

2955
02:26:54,120 --> 02:26:56,680
Speaker 7: George Pickens and I mean Naja Harris and some of

2956
02:26:56,720 --> 02:27:00,440
Speaker 7: those guys speaking up, before there was been Roethersburg there,

2957
02:27:00,760 --> 02:27:05,160
Speaker 7: so they never could be bigger than big bench. Sure, Now,

2958
02:27:06,040 --> 02:27:08,720
Speaker 7: who's the guy on offense that you're saying is who's

2959
02:27:08,760 --> 02:27:11,360
Speaker 7: the mount Rushmore? Who are the guys on Mount Rushmore

2960
02:27:11,440 --> 02:27:14,240
Speaker 7: on that offense, there's not one because Kenny Picky can't

2961
02:27:14,280 --> 02:27:17,000
Speaker 7: do it. Trubisky, none of those or the quarterbacks can

2962
02:27:17,080 --> 02:27:19,600
Speaker 7: do it. So those guys believe they're the best guy

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Speaker 7: all that they're looking around. I'm the best player on

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02:27:21,760 --> 02:27:24,680
Speaker 7: the team. I should be able to say what I

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02:27:24,760 --> 02:27:27,840
Speaker 7: want to say. It should be about me and that stuff.

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Speaker 7: That's where it has been lost. And so I don't

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02:27:31,120 --> 02:27:34,200
Speaker 7: doubt when Roethlisberger goes in there and he sees all

2968
02:27:34,240 --> 02:27:36,760
Speaker 7: the chippiness and all the talk and he's talking about

2969
02:27:36,800 --> 02:27:39,440
Speaker 7: the culture, they've lost their way or they've lost their

2970
02:27:39,480 --> 02:27:45,200
Speaker 7: way because when remember AB's the reason why he got

2971
02:27:45,240 --> 02:27:47,920
Speaker 7: out is because you remember Ben Roethlisberger snapped at him

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02:27:48,560 --> 02:27:52,080
Speaker 7: at practice for running the wrong route and that sent

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Speaker 7: him spirally because he was like, who are you talking to?

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02:27:55,320 --> 02:27:57,040
Speaker 7: And Man was like, hey, man, get trip, you know,

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02:27:58,080 --> 02:28:02,480
Speaker 7: get going. You got to do this, and Ab didn't

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02:28:02,600 --> 02:28:05,480
Speaker 7: like it. They don't have anybody right now that can

2977
02:28:05,600 --> 02:28:07,920
Speaker 7: do that, and that's the difference.

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02:28:09,000 --> 02:28:13,120
Speaker 2: Gotta find that leader in the locker room. Always defensive side,

2979
02:28:13,360 --> 02:28:15,320
Speaker 2: and even stipulated to that that they had it on

2980
02:28:15,440 --> 02:28:18,880
Speaker 2: the defensive side. But from the offense, Yeah, there's not

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02:28:18,959 --> 02:28:22,000
Speaker 2: a leader there. There's not the long standing guy then

2982
02:28:22,160 --> 02:28:25,720
Speaker 2: because nobody there's no tenure there, there's absolutely no.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's the team is young, and the team is

2984
02:28:29,959 --> 02:28:33,800
Speaker 7: young and they've lost it. The team is young and selfish.

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02:28:34,280 --> 02:28:36,720
Speaker 7: And I would say of late, they brought in a

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02:28:36,760 --> 02:28:40,000
Speaker 7: lot of selfish players, particularly at those perimeter spots that

2987
02:28:40,160 --> 02:28:43,240
Speaker 7: touched the ball there wide receive like wide receivers, you're

2988
02:28:43,240 --> 02:28:46,920
Speaker 7: always going to get some prickly personalities, right, But they

2989
02:28:46,959 --> 02:28:48,880
Speaker 7: have too many divas. And now if you go back

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02:28:48,959 --> 02:28:52,200
Speaker 7: and look, man, there's there's a there's a timeline.

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02:28:53,320 --> 02:28:58,000
Speaker 14: Ab to Juju, to Chase Claypool is in that conversation

2992
02:28:58,200 --> 02:29:05,320
Speaker 14: to these other hev Yeah, a lot of divas in

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02:29:05,440 --> 02:29:06,080
Speaker 14: those rooms.

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02:29:06,360 --> 02:29:08,560
Speaker 7: And I would say this, like, I know Deontay Johnson,

2995
02:29:08,560 --> 02:29:11,960
Speaker 7: they paid him a lot of money for me. He

2996
02:29:12,160 --> 02:29:16,440
Speaker 7: has to go, like he doesn't he he has to go.

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02:29:16,560 --> 02:29:19,000
Speaker 7: He doesn't fit the criteria. And I would say this,

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02:29:19,200 --> 02:29:21,760
Speaker 7: and there's a way to say it without getting yourself

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Speaker 7: in trouble. But I don't know if he's worth the

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02:29:25,280 --> 02:29:29,080
Speaker 7: trouble personality was. I don't know if the return is

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02:29:29,200 --> 02:29:31,480
Speaker 7: worth it. Like I don't know if the production is

3002
02:29:31,520 --> 02:29:33,560
Speaker 7: good enough to tolerate the other stuff.

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02:29:33,760 --> 02:29:35,320
Speaker 2: Oh but it's like if you want to be the

3004
02:29:35,440 --> 02:29:38,680
Speaker 2: guy and be the leader, you know, you've got to

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02:29:38,720 --> 02:29:41,160
Speaker 2: be that guy, all right, and we certainly have not

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Speaker 2: dot com. All right, Well, we got a couple of

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Speaker 2: stories still to get to as we continue here on

3012
02:29:57,520 --> 02:30:01,400
Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday. Aaron Rodgers, the Willie or Wonie, the

3013
02:30:01,560 --> 02:30:04,879
Speaker 2: offensive off sides that cost people a lot of money.

3014
02:30:05,400 --> 02:30:07,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if you notice there was one called

3015
02:30:07,520 --> 02:30:10,039
Speaker 2: in a game yesterday. We'll get into that. But first

3016
02:30:10,080 --> 02:30:13,800
Speaker 2: we got our guy Isaac Loewenron. He's got everything rolling

3017
02:30:13,840 --> 02:30:16,320
Speaker 2: around in our sporting universe. And Ilo, I gotta give

3018
02:30:16,360 --> 02:30:19,320
Speaker 2: you credit from Thursday. You know, as I was here

3019
02:30:19,560 --> 02:30:22,040
Speaker 2: on air, you know we'd we'd pull up the the

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02:30:22,200 --> 02:30:26,039
Speaker 2: post game, uh, in the in the breaks and kind

3021
02:30:26,080 --> 02:30:29,960
Speaker 2: of talking about the the merciful thing to end the

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02:30:30,120 --> 02:30:32,840
Speaker 2: experiment there for the Chargers I thought that was very

3023
02:30:32,959 --> 02:30:35,600
Speaker 2: well put of. At some point you just have to

3024
02:30:35,680 --> 02:30:38,400
Speaker 2: say congratulations on a job done.

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02:30:38,840 --> 02:30:42,280
Speaker 15: I know, thank you. I never thought that I'd be saying,

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02:30:43,040 --> 02:30:45,280
Speaker 15: you know what, this is the humane thing to do.

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02:30:45,400 --> 02:30:48,760
Speaker 2: It's charge we need to put.

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02:30:48,760 --> 02:30:50,040
Speaker 1: We need to put the dog to sleep.

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02:30:50,120 --> 02:30:57,280
Speaker 11: That I thought that was the greatest line I've ever

3030
02:30:57,440 --> 02:31:02,840
Speaker 11: heard regarding a coaching regime change at Isaac Lowenkrown.

3031
02:31:03,600 --> 02:31:07,080
Speaker 12: My guy, wait when you have three different guys scored

3032
02:31:07,120 --> 02:31:10,520
Speaker 12: their first NFL touchdowns, including a three hundred and twenty

3033
02:31:10,640 --> 02:31:13,720
Speaker 12: seven pound eleven year vet who's thirty four years old

3034
02:31:13,920 --> 02:31:14,800
Speaker 12: on a forty.

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02:31:14,560 --> 02:31:17,400
Speaker 15: Four yard fumble return. See, here's the thing.

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Speaker 12: I'm so glad you guys said that, because that's exactly

3037
02:31:21,080 --> 02:31:22,880
Speaker 12: what I was trying to say. Yet I didn't have

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02:31:22,920 --> 02:31:25,520
Speaker 12: the guts to say it in those words, but that's

3039
02:31:25,600 --> 02:31:27,720
Speaker 12: exactly what I meant.

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02:31:27,840 --> 02:31:30,840
Speaker 15: So that is indeed what was the result of what

3041
02:31:30,959 --> 02:31:32,000
Speaker 15: happened on Thursday.

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02:31:32,080 --> 02:31:35,480
Speaker 12: We also had some results on Saturday, the Detroit Lions

3043
02:31:35,520 --> 02:31:37,840
Speaker 12: improving to ten and four with a forty two to

3044
02:31:37,920 --> 02:31:41,200
Speaker 12: seventeen victory over the Denver Broncos behind five Jared Goff

3045
02:31:41,320 --> 02:31:45,800
Speaker 12: touchdown passes, three to Sam Laporta Broncos now seven and seven. Now,

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02:31:45,840 --> 02:31:50,480
Speaker 12: you know, fellas frequently when the Los Angeles Lakers play

3047
02:31:50,640 --> 02:31:56,400
Speaker 12: a game, we afterwards go with the tweet recap by

3048
02:31:56,600 --> 02:32:02,240
Speaker 12: one Irvin Magic Johnson, whole game on exactly. They've become very,

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02:32:02,320 --> 02:32:05,880
Speaker 12: very popular in social media. So we now have a

3050
02:32:06,040 --> 02:32:11,040
Speaker 12: Detroit Lions equivalent. We had a recap tweet from that

3051
02:32:11,240 --> 02:32:17,800
Speaker 12: noted Lions officionado Eminem. Eminem posting after last night's Lions

3052
02:32:17,920 --> 02:32:22,040
Speaker 12: victory and I quote, back on track, that's what I'm

3053
02:32:22,120 --> 02:32:27,280
Speaker 12: talking about at Lions, Ben Johnson, don't leave us unquote.

3054
02:32:27,840 --> 02:32:31,320
Speaker 12: Now there's a little there's a little difference here between

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02:32:31,400 --> 02:32:38,320
Speaker 12: Eminem's tweets and Magic Johnson's tweets because Eminem's clientele, his followers,

3056
02:32:38,400 --> 02:32:42,400
Speaker 12: if you will, maybe not as versed in the NFL

3057
02:32:42,720 --> 02:32:46,320
Speaker 12: and the Detroit Lions as perhaps you might expect. So

3058
02:32:46,440 --> 02:32:49,520
Speaker 12: here were a sampling of some of the responses to

3059
02:32:49,600 --> 02:32:54,560
Speaker 12: Eminem's tweets. Nettle commenting, quote, I don't know who Ben

3060
02:32:54,680 --> 02:32:55,320
Speaker 12: Johnson is.

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02:32:55,480 --> 02:32:57,680
Speaker 15: But I'm on your side. Unquote.

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02:32:59,120 --> 02:33:05,360
Speaker 12: Cary posts I thought football was on Sundays and finally,

3063
02:33:07,200 --> 02:33:13,200
Speaker 12: Shady Shady Times commenting quote that's great, man, but do

3064
02:33:13,400 --> 02:33:15,720
Speaker 12: you or your team even know about the Juice World

3065
02:33:15,800 --> 02:33:16,920
Speaker 12: collab that just dropped?

3066
02:33:17,040 --> 02:33:17,800
Speaker 1: Or y'all living in.

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02:33:17,840 --> 02:33:23,200
Speaker 12: Your own world lmao unquote. So there seem to be

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02:33:23,360 --> 02:33:29,240
Speaker 12: some difference in the in the NFL Lions interest in

3069
02:33:29,640 --> 02:33:34,320
Speaker 12: Eminem's followers as opposed to Magic Johnson and his Lakers followers.

3070
02:33:34,879 --> 02:33:38,240
Speaker 12: Earlier on Saturday, the Indianapolis Colts defeated the Steelers thirty

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02:33:38,320 --> 02:33:38,840
Speaker 12: to thirteen.

3072
02:33:38,920 --> 02:33:40,080
Speaker 15: The Colts eight and six.

3073
02:33:40,160 --> 02:33:42,960
Speaker 12: They've won five of six, the Steelers seven and seven,

3074
02:33:43,080 --> 02:33:45,840
Speaker 12: on a three game losing streak. Multiple outlets report Rams

3075
02:33:45,920 --> 02:33:49,680
Speaker 12: defensive tackle Aaron Donald is expected to play today against

3076
02:33:49,879 --> 02:33:53,240
Speaker 12: Washington after being listed as questionable with a groin injury.

3077
02:33:53,280 --> 02:33:56,480
Speaker 12: In the NBA, on Saturday night, the Sacramento Kings defeated

3078
02:33:56,520 --> 02:33:59,200
Speaker 12: the Utah Jazz one twenty five to one oh four.

3079
02:33:59,360 --> 02:34:02,199
Speaker 12: Is Keegan Hurray hit twelve three pointers scored a career

3080
02:34:02,280 --> 02:34:05,199
Speaker 12: high forty seven points. The Milwaukee Bucks over the Detroit

3081
02:34:05,320 --> 02:34:08,840
Speaker 12: Pistons one six to one fourteen. The Pistons on a

3082
02:34:08,959 --> 02:34:12,720
Speaker 12: twenty three game losing streak. The NBA single season record

3083
02:34:13,320 --> 02:34:16,760
Speaker 12: is twenty six. No comments yet on that from Eminem

3084
02:34:16,879 --> 02:34:17,760
Speaker 12: back to you guys.

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02:34:17,640 --> 02:34:21,279
Speaker 2: Appreciate you. Ilo always with the twitter verse and the commentary,

3086
02:34:21,560 --> 02:34:25,160
Speaker 2: and nobody recaps a box score and really encapsulates things

3087
02:34:25,560 --> 02:34:28,560
Speaker 2: as well as Magic Johnson in his tweets No question

3088
02:34:28,720 --> 02:34:31,320
Speaker 2: about it. Hey. Shortly after the show, podcasts will be

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Speaker 2: this show Fox Football Sunday. Right after we get off

3095
02:34:49,600 --> 02:34:52,440
Speaker 2: the air. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm by carm A couple

3096
02:34:52,480 --> 02:34:56,120
Speaker 2: of stories left to go. We get into the playing

3097
02:34:56,360 --> 02:34:58,600
Speaker 2: at the Margins. We talked about it a little bit

3098
02:34:58,640 --> 02:35:00,560
Speaker 2: with the Eagles. Now we'll go go to the other

3099
02:35:00,680 --> 02:35:04,320
Speaker 2: side of the equation, the Kansas City Chiefs fining and

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Speaker 2: all of the fun and excitement that is the world

3101
02:35:07,280 --> 02:35:09,760
Speaker 2: of Aaron Rodgers. That and more as we continue, I

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Speaker 2: welcome back in It's Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio,

3103
02:35:15,160 --> 02:35:17,880
Speaker 2: Bike Carmen, Bucky Brooks. The time goes by so far,

3104
02:35:18,360 --> 02:35:21,200
Speaker 2: so fast, Bucky, I've got like thirty two other things

3105
02:35:21,240 --> 02:35:24,160
Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about. So we'll we'll try to

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Speaker 2: Minnesota trying the tush push with the one hundred and

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02:35:41,720 --> 02:35:46,400
Speaker 2: eighty pounds soaking wet Brandon Powell behind the quarterback twice.

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02:35:47,800 --> 02:35:51,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, So my thing there is that should be the

3114
02:35:51,600 --> 02:35:54,560
Speaker 7: example when they want to outlaw it. The Eagle should

3115
02:35:54,600 --> 02:35:59,120
Speaker 7: just point to that, because it wasn't just Nick Mullins.

3116
02:35:59,320 --> 02:36:00,920
Speaker 7: It was Garrett Rabery the sin.

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02:36:00,879 --> 02:36:03,400
Speaker 2: Again blown He got blown up in that second one.

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02:36:03,440 --> 02:36:06,680
Speaker 7: I mean he got blown back, and then it throws

3119
02:36:06,720 --> 02:36:09,240
Speaker 7: off the time and just the rhythm. Nick Mullins kind

3120
02:36:09,280 --> 02:36:13,000
Speaker 7: of loses the ball almost with it. Uh, it cost him,

3121
02:36:13,520 --> 02:36:15,840
Speaker 7: you know, like that was a huge gamble. Fourth down.

3122
02:36:16,000 --> 02:36:19,520
Speaker 7: They should be able to get an inch. They didn't

3123
02:36:19,560 --> 02:36:22,800
Speaker 7: get it. Kind of change change momentum, and it cost

3124
02:36:22,879 --> 02:36:24,840
Speaker 7: him points because they were on their way to get points.

3125
02:36:25,200 --> 02:36:26,800
Speaker 7: That's the main thing. They were on their way to

3126
02:36:26,840 --> 02:36:28,680
Speaker 7: get points, they probably would have put the game away,

3127
02:36:29,160 --> 02:36:30,200
Speaker 7: and it came back to bite them.

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02:36:30,920 --> 02:36:33,880
Speaker 2: All Right, we've got the the Broncos were called for

3129
02:36:33,959 --> 02:36:39,039
Speaker 2: an offensive off sides. Because that's the controversy of the week.

3130
02:36:39,200 --> 02:36:43,920
Speaker 2: Andy Reid fined one hundred thousand, Patrick Mahomes fined fifty thousand.

3131
02:36:44,440 --> 02:36:49,240
Speaker 2: Uh Sean Payton the blow up partially at Russell Wilson.

3132
02:36:49,280 --> 02:36:51,800
Speaker 2: He was very short with reporters after the game. But

3133
02:36:51,920 --> 02:36:55,880
Speaker 2: you're talking about goal line situations. I still think Gavante

3134
02:36:55,959 --> 02:36:59,360
Speaker 2: Williams scored, but again it's splitting hairs. But you have

3135
02:36:59,520 --> 02:37:02,360
Speaker 2: that situation, suation go down where it's an offensive offsides

3136
02:37:02,440 --> 02:37:05,480
Speaker 2: and from every angle I've seen, didn't make a whole

3137
02:37:05,520 --> 02:37:07,120
Speaker 2: lot of sense on that call. But it was almost like,

3138
02:37:07,160 --> 02:37:10,800
Speaker 2: all right, this game's out of pocket, right, the Lions

3139
02:37:10,800 --> 02:37:13,560
Speaker 2: are running away with this one. So you know, after

3140
02:37:13,640 --> 02:37:17,360
Speaker 2: the Chiefs game, we gotta call this more. Someone ordered

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Speaker 2: the code red. That's right. I'll go full conspiracy theorist here,

3142
02:37:21,280 --> 02:37:23,920
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks that we had to have won this week

3143
02:37:24,440 --> 02:37:26,960
Speaker 2: just so we could say it wasn't all about the

3144
02:37:27,080 --> 02:37:30,040
Speaker 2: Chiefs and how they got screwed, but their reaction I

3145
02:37:30,120 --> 02:37:33,040
Speaker 2: think is more about playing within the margins. I heard

3146
02:37:33,080 --> 02:37:36,480
Speaker 2: you and Andy earlier this morning talking about the Chiefs

3147
02:37:36,560 --> 02:37:39,879
Speaker 2: b enemy like they won a Super Bowl post Tyreek Hill.

3148
02:37:39,959 --> 02:37:42,480
Speaker 2: So I'll find a good But there's not a level

3149
02:37:42,520 --> 02:37:46,160
Speaker 2: of separation. Your wide receivers have dropped thirty six passes.

3150
02:37:46,560 --> 02:37:50,760
Speaker 2: You had that egregious pass interference that wasn't called against

3151
02:37:50,840 --> 02:37:54,120
Speaker 2: Green Bay that was still fresh in your brain. But

3152
02:37:54,280 --> 02:37:57,320
Speaker 2: all of these things pile up together, and this is

3153
02:37:57,520 --> 02:38:00,480
Speaker 2: just the obvious. Hey, at some point you have that

3154
02:38:00,600 --> 02:38:04,480
Speaker 2: blow up, right, Things that you let go in relationships,

3155
02:38:04,560 --> 02:38:07,800
Speaker 2: your job, whatever, that pile up over time, and then

3156
02:38:07,840 --> 02:38:10,920
Speaker 2: it takes something really innocuous and something that's just stupid

3157
02:38:10,959 --> 02:38:13,680
Speaker 2: as can be to set you off. And this one,

3158
02:38:13,959 --> 02:38:17,600
Speaker 2: everybody blew a gasket, even though it was the proper

3159
02:38:17,680 --> 02:38:18,960
Speaker 2: call by the letter of the law.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Look, this is the theme with the Chiefs. Your

3161
02:38:26,680 --> 02:38:29,320
Speaker 7: team's reflection of the coach. When the coach starts wanting,

3162
02:38:29,440 --> 02:38:32,720
Speaker 7: the quarterback starts wanting, you're not focused on the things

3163
02:38:32,760 --> 02:38:36,760
Speaker 7: that you could control. Kadarius Tony coming out and saying

3164
02:38:36,840 --> 02:38:40,920
Speaker 7: the referee should warm me, no know how to line up.

3165
02:38:41,640 --> 02:38:44,400
Speaker 7: There's no one that should warn you how to line up.

3166
02:38:45,120 --> 02:38:47,800
Speaker 7: Go out line up and do the things. So to me,

3167
02:38:48,360 --> 02:38:50,800
Speaker 7: it's not even a scheme thing. But if that kind

3168
02:38:50,840 --> 02:38:52,959
Speaker 7: of gives us like a little peak behind the curtain

3169
02:38:53,280 --> 02:38:57,280
Speaker 7: on what they're thinking. Their mind isn't wired right offensively

3170
02:38:57,640 --> 02:38:59,320
Speaker 7: to go back and be a back to back champ,

3171
02:38:59,600 --> 02:39:03,640
Speaker 7: and so too they become a tougher, grittier, more resilient team,

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Speaker 7: they won't win it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they also have running their offense.

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Speaker 7: I just figured, you know what, that might be the

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Speaker 7: common denominator too well.

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Speaker 2: Because I mean justin fields. Remember when he last played

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Speaker 2: the Browns was when he was ill equipped to go

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Speaker 2: play and Miles Garrett was all over him like a

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Speaker 2: cheap suit. So we get perhaps more of that today.

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Speaker 2: Shay was kind of taunting me about that memory, and

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence gave the offensive lineman golf carts.

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Speaker 7: Huh m, yeah, being nice Christmas time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean not Isotna gloves like Dan Marino used

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Speaker 2: to give guys. That's a step up in clot I

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Speaker 2: think Dan.

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Speaker 7: I think Dan would give a better gift. Now, I

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Speaker 7: think he would give a better gift.

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Speaker 2: Now, Oh, come on, I had to crack the joke

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Speaker 2: at Bucky Brooks. He's at the call. Later on tonight

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