1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and it's drinks That's podcast. He's 3 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: a legendary queen's rapper. He's like, that's your boy in 4 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: no R. He's a Miami hippoper pioneer up his dj 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: e FN. Together they drinking up with some of the 6 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: biggest players in the most professional, unprofessional podcast. And yet 7 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: number one sort for drunk drink is New year Z. 8 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: That's time for drink Champs. Trink up the would it 9 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: could be hopefully's whip boy in O R? What up 10 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: is d j e F And this is drink Champs. 11 00:00:54,360 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: Makes up that this guy that this guy that we 12 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: have here today, he might be hip hop's most unique character. 13 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: He might be a person that hustled for the hustle. 14 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: This guy, he is the only person I've ever known 15 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: to drop a remix. He ain't even on the right mix. 16 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: It was crazy to me. It's it's still crazy to 17 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: me when I go and research it. Uh, he's a hustler. 18 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: You know. People try to label him a one hit wonder. 19 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: He continued from two thousand and twelve, I believe still 20 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: dropping music in one got shows with complex got shows 21 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: with other people, and he's stay in his name out 22 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: here in case you don't know where any of the 23 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: weirdest nails ever one drinks ever if you don't know her, 24 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: So what's going on? My god? Listen, I gotta ask 25 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: straight up? Uh all go there? Yes, sir oh, I 26 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: would like to call it. Asked them. That's not a 27 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: hit anthem, it's anthem. I don't care where when that 28 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: came out. I don't care where I was. Whether it 29 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: was Dugel dof Germany, well it was Dubai, whether it 30 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: was anywhere. It was a hit hit hit hit hit. 31 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: And I believe when I googled you our search too, 32 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: it was like that was like your third record you 33 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: ever made. It wasn't my third, but it wasn't my 34 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 1: first twelve. It was in your first twelve. Okay, So 35 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: let let's let's just describe that moment for people who 36 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: don't know, like you're you're a new artist, if you're 37 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: taking the game serious or you're not taking this serious. 38 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: You independent before? So I was super independent, you know 39 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: for me. You know, music is a decision, you know, 40 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: that's what it was for me. For a lot of people, 41 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: I feel like you know, a lot of people tell, 42 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, I grew up to do this. Man, I've 43 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: been rapping. No, you know, I've been trying to figure 44 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: it out my whole life. You know, I was born 45 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: in Trinion that to bego, came over here as an immigrant, 46 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: no green card. You know what I'm saying. My mother 47 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: had to figure it out, you know, saying, my father 48 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: had to figure it out, and so having to do 49 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: whatever we needed to do to take care of each other. 50 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: It's something that we've always done. So you know, my father, 51 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: when my father and mother split, you know, my mother 52 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 1: wasn't going to move back to Trinidad because it just 53 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: didn't make sense to go backwards. Even though let's describe 54 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: the people, because even though pop would never been to 55 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: trind that that is a beautiful place. Oh yeah, I'm 56 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: talking about the third world country. It's got its issues too, 57 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: you know, definitely. You know, I got a family in 58 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: Live and tail More. You know what I'm saying, Like 59 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: these are all projects in Trinidad, and if you go there, 60 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: you'll be like wow, you know, like it's you know, 61 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: it's not what you used to when it comes to 62 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: like natural projects, you know, but just in general you 63 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: know that mentality of like, well, we can't go back 64 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: to Trinidad right now. You know, it kind of put 65 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: in my mind where I got to figure it out 66 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: so we're not worked ever. Moved from Trinidad straight to Atlanta. 67 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: So my father moved to America first to figure it out. 68 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: Amica came. I think he came to Florida first. He 69 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: came to Florida first. Yeah, Florida feel like, you know, 70 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: as a certain type of thing. But you know, he 71 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: came to Florida first, man and then um he you know, 72 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: he was figuring it out, doing this thing. Then, um, 73 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, me and my mother we lived in Canada 74 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: first because she had to take care of her sister 75 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: because she wasn't she wasn't well. Your passport to Standford 76 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: the beginning Canada. And then we left Canada, came back 77 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: to Trinidad, and then we left Trinidad and came to Florida. 78 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: Then we left Florida, went to New York and lived 79 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: in New York and left left New York and went 80 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: to Atlanta. Left Atlanta, North South Carolina last South Carolina. 81 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: Came back to Atlanta, you know, So I mean this 82 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: is just for me as a teenager, that's not it 83 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: was super important. From going from an all black school 84 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: in Atlanta to all white school in South Carolina. You 85 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: know that that gave me the best perspective I ever 86 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: had on life moving forward. While I'm successful continuously in 87 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: the game, it's because I understand people that you know 88 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: that I could. I can see people because I had 89 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: to deal with people growing up. I didn't just have 90 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: to deal with my own culture. I had to understand 91 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: why white people think the way that they think. And 92 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: you know what is also my perspective as a black 93 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: man compared to a Black Americans perspective, it's not the same. 94 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: Caribbeans don't think exactly like how Black Americans stay and 95 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: discriminate against each other. It's different. It's different, Like we 96 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: don't get taught racism and those type of things and 97 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,119 Speaker 1: trendon that like that when I was coming up, because 98 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: black people all the predominant buns. Yeah you know what 99 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: I say, You got Indian and black, so that's brown 100 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: and black. Like the e F said on the islands 101 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: that I see a lot, it would be like color racism. 102 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: They just know they're just coming against Black Americans. Oh yeah, 103 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: they have an issue, you know what I'm saying, Like 104 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: you know people on the islands and call people a 105 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: black American gangs. It's really just carrying the same clunism. 106 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: Like the whole perspective. What was the country that colonized 107 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: trend that just from background history. Um, you know, I 108 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: don't want to say that. I don't want to say 109 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: the wrong thing. Was it? Was it any it would 110 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: be friends? I thought it would be friends. I think 111 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: I think it was friends or whatever. I don't want 112 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: to be wrong, but I think it's Franks. But yeah, man, 113 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, all in all, I say, I give you 114 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: a little bit of that back story just to let 115 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: you know where it's like. And none of this time 116 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: moving around all these places music with something that's on 117 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: my mind. It was more of like survival. And you 118 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: worked at the sneaker store too, right right, so it 119 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: was a closer. It was a mental teak in Atlanta 120 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: called gets on top of the underground, you know, And 121 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: that is how I really got to the undergrounds of 122 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: malls in downtown right now, downtown Atlanta, right in the 123 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,239 Speaker 1: heart up and downtown Atlanta. So you know five Points 124 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: train station, you got CNN Center where the things were 125 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: now with the Riot all that is right there the 126 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: Olympic Park when they did the Olympics ninety six. All 127 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: this is very close to where I worked. So that 128 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: central location, you deal with a lot of people. You 129 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: deal with all the colleges, you know, so you gotta 130 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: you know Clark, Atlanta, spell at Morehouse. And then you 131 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: deal with all the people that work in the companies, 132 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: like I said, CNN, the Coca Cola Center, all these 133 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: type of places. And then you got all the street 134 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: dudes who hustling. I would ever from Broad Street all 135 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: the way over to Peter Street, all these different places 136 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: to all these people became my people because I've always 137 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: been a person that's been styling somebody for a long time. 138 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: That was my job before I got into music, styling 139 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: and fashion. I mean I've been I was a cook 140 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: before I did long care. I didn't move. I managed. 141 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: So it wasn't I'm bouncing around because that's how we 142 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: do on drinks. It's fine, But wasn't ever a problem 143 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: because of what was the character from Martin? So was 144 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: there every like any like copyright characters or what's it 145 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: even going for that? Look when when you when you 146 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: when you started that, No said, you know, obviously I'm 147 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: aware of who that is because I'm a big fan 148 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: of Martin just like any person, you know, but definitely 149 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: wasn't thinking about that. You know, you got to understand 150 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: that the person, that character that people see and all 151 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: go everything, that's just who I am, you know, and 152 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: it's really hard for people to understand things that they're 153 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's like the intro that 154 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: you gave me or whatever is one of the most 155 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: unique people that you have ever met. That's something that's 156 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: I've been true to that my entire life. I have 157 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: not changed the man that I am ever for anybody 158 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: or anything. That's why I have such a hard journey. 159 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: But I enjoyed my journey because I'm the only one 160 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: to understand it. But I'm the only one. I gotta 161 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: live it too, so I'm not really bothered by it. 162 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: But it's an interesting one. Like when I have the 163 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: outer body kind of just like I'm sitting there, might 164 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: be drinking the smoke and I might go back and 165 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: look at all or everything just for to do my homework. 166 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: Now I had to do. I had to do my 167 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: homework to day and now I look and it was 168 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: like there was two different characters there was. I didn't 169 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: see that your wrong home, right, but I saw your 170 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: version of it. And then I also saw was commute 171 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: people that I saw even though it was just you. 172 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: I saw a dude that was just like me, proud 173 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: to be from this other island, but still American because 174 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, I'm reporto Rican and so I saw that guy. 175 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: I saw that, like you really had to Trendidad flag 176 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: and every never, almost every scene did. I saw the 177 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: hood version of who you was in Atlanta, like when 178 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: you were walking around with certain people, and I was like, wow, 179 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: this is this is interested because you're involved. You you 180 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: you embodied all of these characters. Like no character to 181 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: me was fake. You know what. That always made so hard. 182 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: But the thing is, I do I didentify with the 183 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: people when they say you wont me wrong? So that's 184 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: why I want to ask that question, like no Fox 185 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: or like you know, like these big studios that have 186 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: a call you and say yo, don't don't do that 187 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: character no more. I never and we never had any 188 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: issue from anybody that was literally I mean, the power 189 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: of the media is just very powerful. They're making seem 190 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: like it's an issue. But I've never had an issue 191 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: with Martin. Met Martin, like I met a lot of people, 192 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But now I have never 193 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: had a real issue with anybody misunderstandings from the media's perspective. 194 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: That's probably my biggest curse. Whatever, be just because I 195 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: stay to myself. I stay focused on the work because 196 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 1: the work is was gonna keep me going. There was 197 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: the issue I think you had in New York. You 198 00:09:58,320 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: came to New York and you said something that the 199 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: New Yorkers wasn't doing for New Yorker, something like that. So, um, 200 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: I had a show for No it wasn't. That was incredible. 201 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,599 Speaker 1: I had a show for a Converse and somewhere I 202 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: forgot what studios it was. And into going through the show, 203 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: you know, I was going through some personal things just 204 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: on the business side, because this is this is still 205 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: early in my career, this is you know, but this 206 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: is after. You know, I didn't did three tours me 207 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: and Wis that went overseas. I didn't need the under 208 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: the influence tours amazing. You know, I didn't hung around everybody, 209 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, we did our thing, 210 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: and you know, you get to hear and learn a 211 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: lot of things, and you know, um, at the end 212 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: of the day, every artist, when you're you know, on 213 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: your eyes, you go through a lot of pressures because 214 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: for us, unfortunately, we don't have enough people around us 215 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: to be the role model. I've never had a role model. 216 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: I've never had a big home till you figuring out. 217 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: I've always have figured every single thing out myself. So 218 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: you know, I'm never gonna make an excuse about it. 219 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: The things that I said at that time, the things 220 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: that I said at that time were you know, very 221 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: true based on what I was hearing because I was 222 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: coming to New York City, you know, and I grew 223 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: up a huge fan basically seeing Low York City played 224 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: more up Atlanta to New York City. I've seen him 225 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: play more of everybody else than the artists who I 226 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: liked that tid. You know, it's like my story has 227 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: never changed. Like you know, at the time, you know, 228 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: Davis was on his rise, but he was super dup 229 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: to me. But you know what I'm saying, Joey bad As, 230 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: all these people were super dump to me, but I 231 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: never heard them on New York radio, and obviously I'm 232 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: hearing my song, but I'm hearing the me goes I'm 233 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: here and this that I'm just hearing out the thing, right, 234 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: So it was just like and then I'm also hearing 235 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: artists complain about New York Radio or whatever. So I'm 236 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: looking at it as like, look, man, I've always been 237 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: a person to tell the truth for some abody or 238 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: stand up for a stand up if you're getting bullied, 239 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,599 Speaker 1: I'm a stand up for you, bro. You know what 240 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying. If you feel like you're getting injustice done 241 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 1: to you, I'm gonna standing up you. Feel like he 242 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: was representing for the artist for me, while a couple 243 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: of artists took back of that, a couple of artists, 244 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: it's because of the way and that comes back to 245 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 1: my fault, because of my energy that I put behind it, 246 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: my personal problems that I was dealing with on my 247 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: on myself as a businessman or whatever that had me 248 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: frustrated with myself, and that also that side of me 249 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: came out on stage when I'm saying that if I 250 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: could do anything different about the situation, I would have 251 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: just loved to have the energy that I know that 252 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: I truly have when it comes to that. You know, 253 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: what I said was very true. There was no lies 254 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: told there, but the way that I delivered it could 255 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: have been way better. And I knew exactly at the time. 256 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: I didn't understand my energy because I had never been 257 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: in this business. You know what, I'm finding out everything 258 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: fast in the midst of it, and so you know, 259 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: the media ran with it the way they wanted to. 260 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: You know, certain artists ran with it the way they 261 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: wanted to, and for me, I was a little confused. 262 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: I believe it. Just meet you a may note. You 263 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: had the discrepancy, you worked it out. Yeah, we definitely. 264 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: I ran in tell me in person whatever you know 265 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,599 Speaker 1: I said. A lot of things were said online, but 266 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 1: online is just not where I was. I that's not 267 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: my thing, you know, because I never I never practiced that, 268 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: I never experienced. Yeah, you explain what you meant. I'm 269 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: sure that they'd even agree. Yeah, the thing about it, 270 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: they appreciated when I heard him explain that. Everybody's story 271 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: after the fact as the years continued, that what I said, 272 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: like once again, it is my delivery that was wrong 273 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: because but everybody realized that it was almost like yo, 274 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: I could be for my family, but somebody else be 275 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: from my family. It almost seems like that sometimes like that, 276 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: you can't you can't be to do to tell me 277 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: about this is to come outside you Hey, right, you say, 278 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: little girl go upstairs. But did somebody another project to 279 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: my sister like that? Yea? And all that is fair? 280 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: That is fair, And I understood that. You know what 281 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And it's probably been the hardest lesson I 282 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: probably learned in what nine years. I mean because this 283 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: year I'm gonna tell you, Mike, well, I'm a fan, 284 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: by the way, but I'm gonna tell you your illness 285 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: move you made, but it probably might even been your 286 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: biggest mistake. I will take a salute to your motherfucker's 287 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: your career, your motherfucking every chance. I'm not only want 288 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: a big shot because because you're the big man, that's 289 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: your show. I'm gonna tell you like this, Yes, sir, 290 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: I think doing the remix without you're going it okay 291 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: was the bold and ship for for a new artist. 292 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you why. I think it was 293 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: like your biggest mistake because it was that time for 294 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: you as an artist sin to shine and to like 295 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: or go I believe, I believe I know who you are. 296 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: I believe you a guy with a good heart, and 297 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: you felt like he was probably there and be worried, 298 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: you know. But it was that movement where you're supposed 299 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: to wrap with t I wrap with two change and 300 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: wrap with jeez and literally try to take their fucking 301 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: head off as a hartist, that's what the world wanted. 302 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: I told my people like me who was real fans 303 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: and this ship and I'm a fan of when a 304 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: guy gets his opportunity and to but what you did 305 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: was honorable. It was like the city was coming up 306 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: and you gave you sacrifice to your own record. But 307 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: you you hear what I'm coming from. No, I hear. 308 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure that you finish your stuf. Okay, yeah, 309 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: because to me, I just felt like that's what I 310 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: wanted from you. Like I remember we winding the record 311 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: and saying, did this guy really and don't you say 312 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: in the beginning of the record, You're like, I don't 313 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: even need the first and I was like that before 314 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: you answer, was that strategy or arrogance? There was never arrogance. 315 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: I don't have to move with the arrogance. That's really 316 00:15:54,280 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: not my energy. I feel that I'm gonna be the 317 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: I promised. I've been the same person. But for the 318 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: last twenty years I can't answer for you at all. 319 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: But I could just feel your energy now that you're 320 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: not someone looked like that, but I wanted you to be. Yeah, 321 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: that's what I said. And the first thing I say 322 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: is I wish it was my big homie. I'm saying, like, no, 323 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: I had nobody to tell me, and I ran my 324 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: home show. I done everything myself, you know, and everybody 325 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: just facility. I still want you to asker this question. 326 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: So there was nobody at depth jam and I said, Yo, 327 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: you know what, this is your time. No, like no, no, 328 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: I promise you. I never had a big homie. That 329 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: the only person that's ever said something to me that. 330 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: I was like, I appreciate that it was to change 331 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: I would have And he checked me when he sent 332 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: me his verse for the All of Everything remix or whatever. 333 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: And when he said it to me, I was like, oh, 334 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: thank you, bro. But obviously I'm doing a million things 335 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: and trying to figure out life. And I didn't get 336 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: right back to him to like, listen, to the verse, 337 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: and he called me and pressed me. I was like, like, yo, 338 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: where somebody send you a verse my snatching? You listen 339 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: to it right now? You know I was anytime somebody 340 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: on the right staff, just you listen to it. Even 341 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: I gotta listen to the phone in my air this 342 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: versus hard and we go there, They're not gonna listen 343 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: to it in the right place, because once again, it's 344 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: not disrespect. But you know, to give you something that 345 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: I've never even said to anybody before. To be honest 346 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: with you, I didn't want to do a remix. I 347 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: did not want to do it. I did not want 348 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: to do a remix. Everybody else around me wanted to 349 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: do a remix because they wanted to make money, you know. 350 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: For me, I love Titty Boy before I turned the 351 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: two chains up on that. You know what I'm saying. 352 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: I love you know t I You know what I'm saying. 353 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: Twenty fours is on my like if I'm on I 354 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: stuck for the rest of my life and I need 355 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: to have ten songs. Twenty four is probably one of 356 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: those songs. You know what I'm saying. I grew up 357 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: on the jeezy that everybody loves you know what I'm saying, 358 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: So to my respect level is on the mountain. But 359 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: this is my journey. This is not their journey, and 360 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: they made it their journey, you know what I'm saying. 361 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: They want they put themselves on it or whatever, not 362 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: to change, but like the I think, like Tian Jesus, 363 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: they put themselves on to be on it, you know 364 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Whatever. I didn't even get a chance 365 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: to ask them or whatever. So for me, you know, 366 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: it didn't feel like the way that I wanted this 367 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: to go. And that was a hard lesson in the 368 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 1: business where it's like these people are not your friends, bro, 369 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like me and not in 370 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: a way better place now, But for the first beginning 371 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: of my career, I really wanted to stay away from 372 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: him because it didn't feel that he had any respect 373 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: for me. I don't unerstand because so so um all right, 374 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: so let me try to get this, Let me try 375 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: to understand this a little bit, because you have the 376 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: biggest record in the world at this time. Yeah, but 377 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: I should mentioned but that's hip hop, you know, you 378 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: know that, And it was more it was other he 379 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: I think that people who was doing business for me 380 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: at the time, because I wasn't just doing all my 381 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: own business myself. I was just doing the creative part 382 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: in the music and you know, trying to make connections. 383 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: But I was with an independent label, you know what 384 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know, they do Lucci, they do you 385 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: know people b K blah blah blah. You know, at 386 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: the time I'm doing business, they're doing the business for me, 387 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: and they know different people. And obviously everybody would want 388 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: to this a great look to do a song with 389 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: these legendary people. But once again, as you can see, 390 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: I don't do things traditional. That's never been me. So 391 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: to kind of like force me into this traditional wave, 392 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: it was offensive to me, but I dealt with it, 393 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And like you know, I'll 394 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: give you another piece information, I have to tell you 395 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: this or whatever. Like that really really ruled me the 396 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: like a crazy way about just the industry and just 397 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: in general. Like you know, I got charged forty wardrobe 398 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: for their wardrobe referring to Jeez tip and to change 399 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: and if you go back to look at the dog 400 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: or everything remix, look and see what t I wore, 401 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: Look and see what jess wore, Jessy having a Dickie 402 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: suit and t I had on hustle game, his old 403 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: bird finance me on my old forty bands. You know 404 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I'm my label, but I did just 405 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I pay forty I had 406 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: to pay forty. Dog, I'm a stilish dog. Before you 407 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: do that burn my soul. That burned my soul, like 408 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: I had to perform that. But you didn't pay. You 409 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: didn't pay for the verses. Okay, but because a bigger 410 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: look for them to do it. If you look at 411 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: the time, this is nothing. I say, it's never this, 412 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: it's never as we're just a fat person, as a 413 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: as a as a fan, and I see what everything 414 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: you're saying, like, I actually can see. I can see 415 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: where you where, I can see when people thought it 416 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: as arrogance, and I can see what you thought it 417 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: was like genius and it was genius. And but I 418 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: can see like I just would really wish you would 419 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: just showed your ass and just saying if you do, 420 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: I say, if you was my big home, I would 421 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: have been like so nor say I'm surprised to change 422 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: it and say that I'm surprised, geez, I'm surprised even 423 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: t it was. It was just it was different because 424 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: I didn't know them, like I've only met t I 425 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: one time, and that first occasion wasn't the right occasion. 426 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: That wasn't it was that wasn't have been before prior 427 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: at the studio session. It just our energy from the beginning. 428 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't good. And it was based off of how 429 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: he approached me or whatever, because if I'm interested, how 430 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,239 Speaker 1: did he get to me? Because I'm a I'm an 431 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: observer of people. I'm a people person. If anybody can 432 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: tell you born that you know exactly or whatever. So 433 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: I realized I was like, oh, he's coming to have 434 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: a dick swinging contests. Wait a minute, what he's coming. 435 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: He's coming to the studio to to you know, I'm 436 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: you know, working on my music, working on my craft. 437 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: You don't mean the actually you mean like you know, 438 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: I mean like like music so good to me. You 439 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: know you got not mentally, so you know, I peeped that, 440 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And I was like, damn, man, 441 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: I would think that you know, he would come to 442 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: like give me some game or something. You know what 443 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying, this is our first time me and I 444 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: was already got all gold out. Yeah, like brown lit 445 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: at this point in time. Right now, I'm lit in 446 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: the city of Atlanta. I can't speak for me y 447 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: in Atlanta number one. I'm not t I spoke, man, 448 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you, man, when you had a 449 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: number one record in the the fucking world, you wore 450 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: a threat. You certain and I'm just telling you you 451 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: ain't suposer. That's why this goes back to the sports world. 452 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: And then like hip hop is a blood school for 453 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: the interview athletes because they'd be like, yo, what someone 454 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: to do with the rookie suons he come to the league, 455 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: they wouldn't let him know immediately. So something that's who 456 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: he was that and that was saying that I would 457 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: ever order when it started with Tipping twelve, like December, 458 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, something like that's how that started. 459 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: I whenever somewhere around that earlier that went into the 460 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 1: league me, I was this is not I gotta deal 461 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: with you know what I'm saying Like this and I 462 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: feel like high school because I went to a lot 463 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: of different high schools. I went to a different high 464 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: school every year, so I knew, I knew what that. 465 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: I was like, alright, you know what I'm saying, so 466 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: said little shot side listen and I'm not outside, and 467 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: now it's not even the boutside because once again, I 468 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: do appreciate a shot. Right, we gotta take it, you 469 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: gotta take it. No, because I'm just telling you. I 470 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: could see, not to say like, because I don't really 471 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: know the energy displayed, but I can see, like certain 472 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: people being threatened because your first record, like the record 473 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: is a monster. It's a monster, like it's it's not 474 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: like there's people who have hits, these people who have 475 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: gold platinum records that don't have that one single Fox 476 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: that's like that. So I can see somebody being threatened, like, man, 477 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: tell me, did your immagies but tell me yeah, and 478 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong. It felt like it marked 479 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: a new era. You could feel like you did. Viral 480 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: did not exist in hip hop. It did not think 481 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: it's never I just think it going viral. Niggers had 482 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: never ever said that I'm a fan, I'm a fan 483 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: of hip hop or a fan of music. Listening to 484 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: every body ship but respectfully, we've never said that term 485 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: of like n I think its just went viral today. 486 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: That just wasn't in the capital until all where everything 487 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: came out. That every label from there on out and 488 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: still right now was trying to find artists to make 489 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: them go viral. That's what they did. And what Jim 490 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: did with you was moneymental. But but here's the crazy ship. 491 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: You threw that video out on your own without that. Yeah, 492 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. We did that. We got ourselves 493 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: to deal. Everybody was looking at that deal started let that, 494 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: let's get that. But but but that's just money that's 495 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: out there right now, that's looking for the You explain 496 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: what was your vision like, because you know there's somebody 497 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: somewhere don't know nothing and they had they have the 498 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: same questions that you had. Well, I had all that 499 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: you had coming up. But let him know your your process, 500 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: your success, how you did it well. For me, I 501 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: had to learn everything on the come, and I wanted 502 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: to make sure that I played to my strong points. 503 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: So vision and image was my strong points. I knew 504 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: I had work to do on the on the music 505 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: side of things, but the music had already proved that 506 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: it could sell. Obviously, I never put a gun to 507 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,239 Speaker 1: anybody here. He said, you need to listen to All 508 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: Go Everything. Nobody around me ever did that. We literally 509 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: just passed out of CD. Check out my new stuff 510 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: because you rock with me my energy. That's how the 511 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: first CD started moving around, because that's my boy. That 512 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: he didn't dress to me for a hundred summers, that's 513 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: my boy. Of course I listened to it one time. 514 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: People he told he was a stallus, you know what 515 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So like that right there, gravitated that would 516 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: make the first CDs move around or whatever. So that 517 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: got the CD go and got the music, and people 518 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 1: gravitated to to the number six, which is All Go Everything. 519 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: They just gravitated to it. I never told anybody you 520 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: should listen to number six because number six wasn't the 521 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: strongest song to me in my head. That's the last 522 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: song I recorded for it, and that was the one 523 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to do for the people in the streets. 524 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: I feel like I had everybody else who I because 525 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: once again I told you, I'm dealing with college students. 526 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: I'm dealing with people who work in big You made 527 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: this record, you already visualized in the video. I didn't 528 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: visualize the visual. I didn't visualize the video until it 529 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: was actually time to do the video. And that what's 530 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: that video at College Park? It's now that videos on 531 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: the South Side. He just said he didn't even think 532 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: that was the record. You know what I'm saying, because 533 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: once again, I'm brand new and and there's no role models, 534 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: nobody around me, no music well enough to be like 535 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: what you said, like you got to tear these old 536 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: nigger's heads on this remix. You know, nobody's saying that 537 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: to me. If somebody said, if a person like you, 538 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: not even you, had sent that to me, Young Droe 539 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: could have said it to me. You know what I'm saying, 540 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: But nobody ever said that those words to me. Like, bro, 541 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: you got to take their hand because I love perspective 542 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: that makes sense. I'm a common sense type of guy. 543 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: If you give me a perspective that actually makes sense, 544 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, because I'm gonna tell you something. By 545 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: listening to t I and Jesus verse, it's almost like 546 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: they knew you was gonna jump, and they knew you 547 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: had no choice to like to use their verse. See 548 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: I could tell that too changes the verse they ever 549 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: sent to you, Yeah, to change, see to change. I 550 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: think that we had Jeezy and it's a little hard 551 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: for me to remember now, but I think we had 552 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: Teas and Jesus first and then when I was like, man, 553 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: we gotta do change because I actually, you know what 554 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like I might as well, you know what 555 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: this makes sense to me, you know what I'm saying, 556 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: Like for this because I'm a music person. I've I've 557 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: always been a producer before I knew I was a 558 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: producer of music of how to put together a track 559 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: or whatever, like that's just my thing, that's my superpower. 560 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: And so you know, well, actually that's why I had 561 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: to learn the hard lesson would change. When he was like, bro, 562 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: he was like, I did it for the love and 563 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: rock with you, And I see he did it for 564 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: the love. But every honesty to being honest. The record 565 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: is huge. It's a great looks because he was transitioning 566 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: to he was transitioning also, so you definitely put your 567 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: city before you at that time. I swear to God, 568 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: like when you look at that, that was like a 569 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: Jesus move. That was like, yeah, I'm a sacrifice. Everything 570 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: been a sacrificial lamb been the sacrificial Would you be 571 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: would you be like I just been that movement, the 572 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: sacrificial land from the standpoint of like everybody has had 573 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: got even bigger checks than I got after me or whatever, 574 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: because people learned what to do with the artists. You 575 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: don't understand the biggest difference between me and death Chad, 576 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: which they just didn't understand. I was like the first 577 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: of my kind. You know what I'm saying. Do you 578 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: think you are? You can do on the side, But 579 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, it's this whole thing 580 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: mumble rap, Yes, sir. And the first mumble rap was 581 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: looked us. We was just talking about this. I didn't 582 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: think it was it was man skills. And I said, 583 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: at first it looked at it like it was. It was. 584 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: It was from the point almost like how backpack wrap 585 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: was backpack. I don't think I don't think this say 586 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm telling you. I'm just telling you 587 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: my perspective. Back mumble rap was something that people like. Oh, 588 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: but now mumble rapp is like someone respectable. Do you 589 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: feel like you're one of the kings of mumble rap? 590 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think that mumber I 591 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: don't because I didn't that and came after me. I 592 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: felt mumber rap came in like twenty like that wasn't 593 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: really my thing. Like mcconan and those guys were kind 594 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: of giving you like melody driven melody. It's different to 595 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: me than mumbling, though I'm saying, I said, nobody actually 596 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: really makes money off of like just genuinely mumbling. But 597 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: four World I told him, I can't believe that anybody 598 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: would actually say I am a mumble rapper. No, I 599 00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: think that like the melody. No, I haven't now some more, sorry, 600 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: but I just I just couldn't see it, like I 601 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: felt like that came out as a disk more like 602 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: these are mumbo rappers backpack rap. I don't see it 603 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: the same offense. You know, that was not that that 604 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: was was That wasn't if they called you a backrap wrapper. 605 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: You know what they were saying, that's all you have 606 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: money to give you when you call someone back, and 607 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: they wanted there gonna start just because just cos hardcore hippop. 608 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: It was a hardcore hipoper. They don't call you back 609 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: back now, backpack wrap and you're like, okay, that's a 610 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: tiler clo like, I think it's a lot of things. 611 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: It's respect but most death it's respecting people wouldn't But 612 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: at first it wasn't. I'm just saying. I was say, 613 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: you think my rap shouldn't be respecting. I think the 614 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: version of Mumbo rap with the melodies like, but the 615 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: homie just said with the melody these uh they said 616 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: up mumbling. It's just you can't really articulate everything. I 617 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: think that. I'm just saying they wouldn't call themselves mumbo. 618 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: That's think another shot. Come on, you get to the 619 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: bottom over come on, I'll lose that, David. Let me 620 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: do a good' Come on, I see what I've really 621 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: So what I what I would say to you is this, 622 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: And I mean, I mean nine years might not be 623 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: a lot in this game, but we still be here. 624 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: I mean a lot to me because every day somebody 625 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: count me out every single day. So what I tell 626 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: you is in the midst of it, I still study 627 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: and do my homework on the game because you have to. 628 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: That's the only way I feel like you did your 629 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: homework to get this podcast exactly. To understand nobody would 630 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: know that the guy that the songs and for real 631 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: and was like a real live street could talk that 632 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: talk and that conversation with anybody. Yes, they knew you 633 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: could comic. You know what I'm saying. So that is 634 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: why I do my homework, because I mean, so many 635 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: different brothers or whatever from the playboard cardis to hole. 636 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: You know, I've meant all these people you know what 637 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying, and got respect from all these people Andrew 638 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: three thousand, you know, And I realized that like when 639 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: I get to talk to him, I always talk to 640 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: a different person. I don't talk to the person that 641 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: you see see on TV. I get to talk to 642 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: the actual person. And so I know that this is 643 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: a good brother or a good sister because when I 644 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: googled you, one of the first things that popped up 645 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: was what hit wonder Now, I know that you're aware 646 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: of that because I'm aware of what they called me. 647 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: But do you consider yourself that or how does one 648 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: say that when they say that? Well, I think that 649 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when somebody only has 650 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: one hit, that you know, then the science of it 651 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: is you have one hit or whatever. But I mean 652 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: I have a lot of plaquess exactly. You know that 653 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: it's always like for me, it's kind of like how 654 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: somebody look at if you don't have your own soul plaques, 655 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: but then you're only going to get counted for the 656 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: ones that you have plaque for that of your song. 657 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: So like August have seen that that's double platinum work Remix, 658 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: that's double platinum, um Bruno Mars, that's diamond. You know 659 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like that doesn't count for hits or 660 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: for me just because that's that's that's their head. That counts. 661 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 1: That deminitely accounts, we know because I wasn't on it exactly. 662 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That comes that talk what 663 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: that also saying to tell answer to get back to 664 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: what we're talking about, which is mumble rappers, and you 665 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: know that perspective. You know, I truly truly feel that 666 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: to actually make it in this game, it's still not easy. 667 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: So and whatever you're doing, whatever that skill craft that 668 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: you bring to it or whatever, you still got to 669 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: be the best version of it. You know what I'm saying. 670 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: You do open the door for a certain kind of 671 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: worms that certain people are who are sticklers of this 672 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: game will be like I hate that, I hate everything 673 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: and stands for and that's totally fine. It's people that 674 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: hate it. Uncle Luke Uncle lukek Norty Uncle Luke. Uncle 675 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: Luke ain't big, but the Uncle Luke is Uncle Luke crew. 676 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: What we're talking about everybody is the biggest thing at 677 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: the top of the pyramid. For me is hip hop 678 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: is keeping wrapped the number one genre because at one 679 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: point in time we wasn't and so whatever it takes 680 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: to keep us at number one, go for it. So 681 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm with you. That's for me, respectfully, you know what 682 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying, because that is what it's important. We can't 683 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: depend on the best rappers to keep hip hop number 684 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: one because they haven't. But that's true. When the best 685 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: rappers were the best rappers, hip hop wasn't number one 686 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: until when everybody became inclusive, everybody, everybody. That's that's when everybody. 687 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: That's when we came number one. So that's what's important. 688 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: And this doesn't take away. This doesn't take away from 689 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: how great Kendrick lamarco rapper or Jake Cole and the 690 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: niggas who can rap. It doesn't take away from the 691 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 1: way that Playboy Cardi puts his songs together. Because we 692 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: are all equally important, because the number one thing that 693 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: should be at the top of the pyramid is rap 694 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: is hip hop, and most of the lyrical very cool, 695 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: great rappers. They spacious in their times and their albums. Anyway, 696 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: there's no one like like you know that's supposed to 697 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: be like the best to drop the album year after 698 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: right now and then and then if Kendrick dropping his album, 699 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: which I can't wait for us, and and and they 700 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: don't live up to your height? You know now, is 701 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: he not? The Kendrick has killed it for us for 702 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: all these I'm teen years. You really truly can't please anyway. Yeah, 703 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: that's the moral of the story. You truly can't. You know. 704 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: Opinions is what keeps this game going and what gets 705 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 1: us pain and what allows us to have conversation, to 706 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: have podcast. What's the worst opinion you ever heard of yourself? Oh? 707 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: I mean that you know, I'm not gonna make it, 708 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not that this 709 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: is the worst. That's the worst. That's the worst. You 710 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: know anything else don't I probably haven't heard it, probably 711 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: been worse, you know what I'm saying. It's like, I mean, 712 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: my parents or whatever, But I can't be mad at 713 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: the person I see every morning. I fought with that guy. 714 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, that's my nigger something that that's 715 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: a patty, Like I said once again, like bro, when 716 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: I got into this game, it felt like high school 717 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: all over again. In high school, I was pretty freak cool, man, 718 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I was pretty funk. That's 719 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: why I wanted to Like again, I didn't want to 720 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: take take up, take up for t'all, and like that's 721 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: my man, but I don't want to take up from them. 722 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: But I can understand, like you know, you're coming from 723 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: left field, like with this with this energy that they 724 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: don't understand, Like I don't say it's indicative of what 725 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: you do, like dads are my big Criz was like 726 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: that's how I tried. That's my am, right. I see 727 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: him being competitive though, and and that's at the time. 728 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: I don't think mean addict like how you interpreted it. 729 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: I think he's being in the moment. His attitude wasn't 730 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: the best attitude or whatever, and you just don't think 731 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: about it. Like I just watched this shit on on 732 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: on Netflix called The Crew, and it's about this NASCAR ship. 733 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: That's how much I really love Kevin James as an actor. 734 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: I hate NASCAR, but I was able to watch this 735 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,439 Speaker 1: whole season and none of the people who drove cars 736 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: against each other got along. It just was like it 737 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: was the nature of the business. It was just like, alright, cool, 738 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 1: like we're actually cool as people. But when we get 739 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 1: to the over together, fuck you brotherfucker your brother focus 740 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: is over there, and I was like, this is him. 741 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: I was like, I was just like we all got 742 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: this one new places we hang out with, but like, 743 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm still trying to take your head off. I'm still 744 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: trying to show you that I'm the I'm the man. 745 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: That was probably that was definitely that was definitely lead 746 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: his energy. He was probably just naming itself the king 747 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: of the South to at that time of the South. 748 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that at that time right there, 749 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: if you go back to everything felt the same. The 750 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: reason why I came with something different because it just 751 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: felt like I got tired of what we were doing. 752 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: It just felt traditional. And once again, I've never been 753 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: a traditional person, and so I was like, Okay, I 754 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: got something to say, I got something to show, I 755 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 1: got something I want to get off my chest or whatever. 756 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my music, you know, And it wasn't 757 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: to be to go up against t I oh that 758 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: because coming from where I'm coming from, how I look 759 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: at the game at the time, I'm not coming in 760 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: with a big perspective because I don't even know. I'm like, 761 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna just started independently and build 762 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: myself up. I don't know where it's gonna go because 763 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: my life is already kind of together on the style 764 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: of side of things, running the closing store. I'm in 765 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: the streets. I'm hustling. I'm cool with everybody, the real 766 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: street niggas, you know, saying the litt college students, you know, 767 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: the people who work at all the good companies, lawyers. 768 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: These all come to the rock with me on the 769 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 1: Friday when they get paid. So they asked you because 770 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: I think the f started earlier, like you had one 771 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: of the biggest deals from Depth Jam at that time. 772 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: That time, man, at that time it came out, they 773 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: came the old labels, I believe, because it blew up 774 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: without the actually like college basketball when you high school 775 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: psychologist giving letters. So they came into and I believe 776 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: it's a two million out of deal. Oh I'm low. 777 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:38,320 Speaker 1: It's around there, Okay, a little bit up, Okay, alright, cool, 778 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: So you got one record, but depth, how does that? 779 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: How does that feeling? What is that? L A Reid 780 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: at the time. No, No, that's Steve, Steve Bottles. No, 781 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: that's very wise, that's very wise. He's the he's the 782 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: CEO at the time. Um. The people that signed me 783 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: at the time was Boo Care Quak San. That is 784 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 1: because the Asian homegirl. Great people, great people. You know 785 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Um, Like I said Blue as Brother, 786 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: because these are the people that kind of pushed up 787 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: together shout out to I've got to give love to 788 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 1: Shoka um um not from Shock, the one from New York. Yeah, yeah, 789 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Because he had a pardon 790 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: in situations. I never knew the details of it, but 791 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 1: I knew he always kind of like felt the type 792 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: of way because he got finessed some type of way. 793 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with that have but that's 794 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,760 Speaker 1: on business side. But I'm gonna give him his flowers 795 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,399 Speaker 1: because thank you whatever he was saying, help my name, 796 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, put my work up, you know, and he 797 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: said a different shock. It's not shocking from Atlanta, assuming 798 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: that's a woman from rock Nation. Yeah, you think you're 799 00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: talking about the same shocking, like what used to be 800 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: Deth Jam way back used to that. That's what we're 801 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: talking to New York kre Okay, yeah, yea, yeah, this 802 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: your back about two. Don't get shot. You said shocking 803 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: to hold me like that Field was a woman saying 804 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 1: she works used to work out def jams. The woman bad. 805 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: It's a man, that's gotta be It was def Jam 806 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: so he yeah, okay, the person who got from next Okay, 807 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm giving your flowers right right, cool, I gotta stick 808 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: a number about the thinking about calling them right now. 809 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: You have to kind of very very story. So you know, 810 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: these are the people who, you know, we're involved in 811 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: putting it together, you know. And I met with you 812 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: know a lot of labels. You know, I met with 813 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: a lot of labels, and I remember l A read too, 814 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,439 Speaker 1: Lary was dope. I mean with Jimmy IRV. Jimmy Aben 815 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: is the man. Jim Jimmy Jimmy Iveen gave me courtside 816 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: seats to the like it's going well. You mad, Um 817 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: not bad or was it any disappointment when um you 818 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: went with Death Jam didn't go with anybody else? No, 819 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: it definitely wasn't disappointment. Looking back at it, I do 820 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: wish it I went with r C A if I'm 821 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 1: not mistaken, I think O r C at Columbia one 822 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: or the two I would ever be just because looking 823 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: at it, they under they go a little bit harder 824 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: for their a different type of artists. Whatever. Death Jam 825 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: is TRADITIONALM. And once again, like I keep saying to you, 826 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm not TRADITIONALM, but not so traditional. They have flavor flame. 827 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 1: But it was a part of Yeah, what I'm saying, 828 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: it's part of a traditional world, like the way that 829 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 1: hip hop is supposed to be brand which you know, 830 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: I respect that picking up we don't know, let's see, 831 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 1: no s I just just just FaceTime, you know. So, Um, 832 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: that was the difference, you know what I'm saying, would 833 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: say that that was like one of the biggest things, 834 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,479 Speaker 1: you know, I just had to learn a hard lesson, 835 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,879 Speaker 1: like I didn't like, you know what. I The one 836 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 1: thing and if there's anything I don't like about everything 837 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 1: that went down was that, you know, if we're doing 838 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: business as grown men and women. You know, it's like 839 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 1: for me, if me and you're doing business, I'll never 840 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: tell nobody in here about our business, you know what 841 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying, especially when it comes to how much money, 842 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: Like if I'm doing if you're doing a service for 843 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,359 Speaker 1: me and you charge me twenty bands, and twenty bands 844 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: is what I paid you or whatever, I'm not gonna 845 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: run and tell everybody in here how much I paid you. 846 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: But that's just not my thing. But I just realized 847 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: that everything that you do in this game, when you're 848 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 1: coming in at the top of when you're at the 849 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,760 Speaker 1: top whatever is, people gotta announced that they won't they won't, 850 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: you know what a validation And I've never lived in 851 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 1: a place of validation. So that just turned me off 852 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: from the day right after I signed or whatever, like, oh, 853 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: I'll see what everybody is about in this game. I 854 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: get it, you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't 855 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,360 Speaker 1: fully get it, but I see it for what it is, 856 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: and I just got to move accordingly and find myself 857 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 1: within it because obviously I'm not gonna quit. We're here 858 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,320 Speaker 1: now because I'm not gonna quit. But I see what 859 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 1: y'all about. From everybody from artists, you know what I'm saying, 860 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,399 Speaker 1: t taught me the hard lesson. I learned a great 861 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: lesson from two chains, but I learned a hard lesson 862 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: from dem Sham. You know what I'm saying. Everybody taught 863 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: me very hard lessons or whatever taught me a hard lessons. 864 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: It was it like because what was the second single 865 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: after Forget its Welcome, Women's Welcome, which was you know, 866 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: way ahead of his time. Nobody was doing hipolysis. You're 867 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 1: going against yourself, they're lucking hearing you. You probably beat 868 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 1: that second single is probably beating the whole building. But 869 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: it's not beating. That's that's the curse. That's what do 870 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: you understand? What just no, no, no, no no, I'm understanding. 871 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: Like it's like it's like it's hood, We're gonna work. 872 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: We know what. It's like that syndrome. You know what 873 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That Bugatti, you know what I'm saying. And 874 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: records like that I whatever, like you know with Females Welcome, 875 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: you know the type of things that I had to 876 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 1: deal with is like, you know, first the radio was like, man, 877 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,399 Speaker 1: we don't know how to play a record that has 878 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: hip hop and E d M on it. You know 879 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: they couldn't. That was the first and I'm gonna say 880 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 1: it's excuse, it's just the truth. Whatever. I was like, 881 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 1: all right, someone, I wouldn't have got Juicy J on 882 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: the remix. I got Juice on the remix. I was like, 883 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 1: let's do this one because Juicy the man, he had 884 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,879 Speaker 1: bands to make him dance. And that's when Juicy making 885 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:35,399 Speaker 1: his resurgence. But this is great, literally Juicy Jay's label, 886 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,800 Speaker 1: not Juicy because he's a great guy. He's amazing. I wouldever, 887 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: he killed the verse, send it to him. I met 888 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 1: him out of show. I asked, I say, but I 889 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 1: would love to have you on my real was because 890 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: this is what's happening. This situation is going on with me. 891 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: They won't play my record for my second single on 892 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: the radio because it's too different for them. I would ever, 893 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,800 Speaker 1: nobody had Nobody at the time had the record that 894 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,439 Speaker 1: was hip hop with the E d M in the middle. 895 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 1: How whatever. Then Rocky came a while for the Night 896 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 1: with screw X and and everybody accepted it for what 897 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: it is. But I kicked that off. Can't nobody tell 898 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: me different or whatever? So I changed it up, got 899 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 1: j on it his label wouldn't clear the verse because 900 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: I think it's commented they wuldn't clear the verse because 901 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 1: he had too many features on the radio. Mm hmm. 902 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 1: It happened like that. Look when they said that to me, 903 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, this right here is devised for 904 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: you to either quit be piste off all the time 905 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: or to lose you know, And so I just had 906 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 1: to find myself. Man. You know, all those things are 907 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: the things I was dealing with all leading up to 908 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: that whole New York situation you asked me about, you know, 909 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: so dealing with just like where dumb business? Jaka, what's 910 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: going on? Brother? Yo? Listen, we got we got Trinidad. 911 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 1: Jameson didn't drink chap and he did say that there 912 00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: is a brother name Shotgun that has something to do 913 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: with this. That he didn't feel like if you got 914 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: the camera and we didn't, he didn't. He felt like 915 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: he should have gave him some props to he He 916 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: felt like that it was it was had something to 917 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: do with making the deal. But maybe you never got 918 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: your props. I know he's talking about. I don't. He 919 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: would have to jog my memory. But we're just in conversation. 920 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 1: I do, you know, I do a lot of behind 921 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: the scenes conversation. Um. And I propped the record up 922 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: because the record was going crazy in Atlanta. If he 923 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,279 Speaker 1: who signed him? He right here, he right here, right here. 924 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,359 Speaker 1: I passed the forth. What's going on? My brother, So look, 925 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 1: let's make him so obviously what I'm saying, we're working 926 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,479 Speaker 1: right now or whatever, but just in general and from 927 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: this is what I story that I've heard is that 928 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: you know, you god, you were putting it work on 929 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 1: my record. I did, I didn't know, right, And then 930 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 1: they got the credit for the record referring to you 931 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: know the people who they said, Simon who signed me, 932 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 1: Karen Quak, Sean Pecas, Chris Atlas and Boom. Yeah, you know, 933 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 1: and the what the word is what's being said is 934 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 1: that you know, you felt the type of way about it, 935 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 1: not towards me, obviously, you know, but towards them. So 936 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to give you the flowers that you deserved, 937 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 1: just in general, because obviously you know that was out 938 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 1: of my control. Yeah, I got there. I appreciate it. Yeah, 939 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,800 Speaker 1: that was that was at the time when I just 940 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 1: anything that came out of Atlanta. I was champion, but 941 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 1: obviously it was a movement and I was just putting. 942 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: I was I was on people next about making sure 943 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: that they signed certain talent, and I wanted to go 944 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 1: through my label and some stuff. You know, we know 945 00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 1: one you got over ride participation or whatever. Then you know, 946 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,320 Speaker 1: mysteriously and you know, pop up in other people's It 947 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: was situation, but you know, but for Trunidad, I was 948 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: just happy and I definitely was co signing the movement 949 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,840 Speaker 1: because it was off the chain when it was happening. 950 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 1: Goddamn mixing things to that bad shocking so much. Were 951 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 1: just like you looking history. Man. We love this man, 952 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: man love always my brother, my bros. Shocking motherfucker's do 953 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:30,399 Speaker 1: the bay. So that that's history right there. That you listen. 954 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 1: By the way, for people who don't know all those 955 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 1: names you just named, ain't a lightweight on there. Nobody 956 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 1: who know who names, nobody's alive. I don't even need 957 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: you name then all you need name like you guys 958 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 1: said him. That's how seriousness this is. Me leaving the 959 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 1: streets and walking into meetings with people like this and 960 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,400 Speaker 1: happen to say yourself, you know, when you've seen Bobby's murder, 961 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 1: dancing on the table, and just I'm type of meetings. 962 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 1: That was my meeting. I wasn't at something table, but 963 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 1: you know those I was me. You know what I'm 964 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,800 Speaker 1: saying to like, let them know who I was. And 965 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: I've never changed. The same person talking to you right now, 966 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 1: that's the same person talking to them. And it's like, 967 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,879 Speaker 1: let's do business. So when we did business and things 968 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 1: started happening, the things that started happening as as after 969 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 1: I signed my deal, it just kind of rubbed me 970 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 1: the wrong way. And like I said, I just never 971 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,839 Speaker 1: had no big homie. What was the worst? Like, um, 972 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 1: like it's like, damn, this this is like fake industry 973 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 1: because I had so many moments for me where I 974 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 1: was just like, you know what, this is another streets 975 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 1: at all. Let me let me differentiate this. But what 976 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 1: was the first? Maybe not the worst? What was the first? Yeah, 977 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,839 Speaker 1: I think was the first, But you know what I said, 978 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 1: your perspective on it is a perspective that I've seen 979 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 1: longer down in my career where it's just like, bro, 980 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 1: if you're at the top, I'm gonna come. I would 981 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: have like I watched a lot of movies I'm a 982 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 1: movie person. You know what if you say that you 983 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,320 Speaker 1: are the best fighter in the world, like you know 984 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 1: what's Afro Samurai? You didn't see that samuraize an animal, 985 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 1: you know when he travels around and the person that 986 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,840 Speaker 1: wears the number one band. You can only get it 987 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,359 Speaker 1: by if you're not number two. You can only get 988 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,399 Speaker 1: number one by killing number one. You know what I'm saying. 989 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 1: So I didn't you know, I didn't see that. That's 990 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: what it was in the moment, because I'm looking at 991 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 1: this like, Bro, I'm doing this bigger for Atlanta, for 992 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 1: for us in period or whatever you like. I'm seeing 993 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,400 Speaker 1: it bigger. Why is you coming in here on this 994 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 1: weird energy? Like you know? That's how I'm looking at it. Oh, that, 995 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 1: but that's why I would have boom. You know you 996 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 1: number one, sir, I'm gonna come and try and kill you. 997 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: But you know I'm saying, but you didn't understand that. 998 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 1: I didn't understand that in the time, So it came 999 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,439 Speaker 1: across defensive. It was like video games. You play video games. 1000 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 1: That's why nobody really shows you say I'm a teacher, Bro, 1001 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a silence from help work because from 1002 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,360 Speaker 1: the video game and y'all ain't trying to show you 1003 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 1: ain't trying to share nobody's energy on the video games 1004 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 1: drying across the bunk. He came from a perspectives were 1005 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 1: not trying to help exactly. And so I get that 1006 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,839 Speaker 1: because you're gonna have people who identified with that type 1007 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 1: of energy where it's like if you number one, I'm 1008 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 1: in kil Mo. But you also have people that identifies like, hey, bro, Like, um, 1009 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 1: if you look at the Judah and the Black Side 1010 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,760 Speaker 1: movie with first it's incredible, It's incredible with Ryan Coogler, 1011 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 1: all those people involved in the movie soundtrack is incredible, 1012 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 1: Hope and Nips. You know, my boy hit boy got 1013 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 1: a crazy song anyways. Um, if you look at like 1014 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,439 Speaker 1: Fred Hampton or whatever, like he was a powerful black 1015 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 1: brother one when they killed him. You know what I'm saying, 1016 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,360 Speaker 1: It's like, but he went around to the Crowns and 1017 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 1: different Games and the the KKK and those people to like, look, 1018 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 1: let's work together, because together they can't funk with us. 1019 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,719 Speaker 1: If it's just left up to one of us to 1020 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 1: do it, how are you gonna put all the responsibility 1021 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 1: on me? Nigga? I just came in this ship. The 1022 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: common sense is my vibe or whatever someone's like, instead 1023 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 1: of trying to kill me off the map or whatever, 1024 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 1: why don't you give me some game or whatever, because 1025 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like, that's why I 1026 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,839 Speaker 1: love your thug, the stuff that I did for your 1027 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,239 Speaker 1: thug in the beginning of his career, which not much 1028 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: or whatever, Like when I when I had my platform 1029 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 1: to be the number one guy and that no no, no, 1030 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,400 Speaker 1: no no no, let me let me say, let me 1031 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:26,240 Speaker 1: say myself, say myself say when I had my chance 1032 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 1: and doing my thing, and my platform is that platform 1033 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 1: where whatever I say goes. When I went to the 1034 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,400 Speaker 1: radio station, I whatever, I knew that one of the 1035 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: most talented people in our city was young Thug. He 1036 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,839 Speaker 1: had dropped. He had Danny Glover at the time. He's 1037 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 1: just coming off a three mix tape. Came from nothing 1038 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,839 Speaker 1: one to three whatever. Danny Glover is the hardest song 1039 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 1: on Earth. Nobody had the hardest song. I Don't care 1040 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: who you were. Nobody had the hardest song. That was 1041 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,719 Speaker 1: the most genre bending approached to a trap song that 1042 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: anybody had ever took. Any nobody creative thu future, nobody 1043 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:03,359 Speaker 1: more creative we were trying to call Danny. I called here. Yeah, 1044 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 1: Doug had a song called Danny Glove. Danny Glove at 1045 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 1: the most two of them. I had a song called 1046 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,880 Speaker 1: and so when I went to radio station, you know, 1047 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,440 Speaker 1: I made sure that I gave him his flowers and 1048 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 1: then Doug and when you know, I've always been a 1049 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 1: person to like, you know what, I'm gonna do my 1050 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 1: own shows. I put my money up and do my 1051 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 1: own shows. So when I do my own shows and 1052 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 1: book out of venue. When I started doing my own 1053 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,920 Speaker 1: things or whatever, boom, I reached out to people like him, 1054 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,239 Speaker 1: like come performing. O there, we gotta go back to 1055 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 1: how you do that? Just keep going. But that's another thing. 1056 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,319 Speaker 1: So I did my own show, paid for my own 1057 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 1: money or whatever. I'm like, I reached out. I forgot 1058 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 1: how I reached out, but I got to him or whatever, 1059 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, bro, come perform. And I 1060 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,440 Speaker 1: think because you are the truth. I know my purpose, 1061 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,360 Speaker 1: I know my journey or whatever, but you are the 1062 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,480 Speaker 1: real out damn truth whatever. Come performed. So he came performed. 1063 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 1: Peebe Longwood can't performed. Would have they're both incredible artists. 1064 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 1: He can't perform Danny Glover. For the people who got 1065 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 1: to enjoy that show, that was the most intimate, most 1066 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 1: amazing experience they will ever have with you or whatever, 1067 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,359 Speaker 1: you know, And that is just that's how I look 1068 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,920 Speaker 1: at it. It's like, look, if I know somebody is 1069 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:25,880 Speaker 1: better than me as something, you come do this, you 1070 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 1: come do it. I didn't. I didn't because I was 1071 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,759 Speaker 1: later on the energy that I put out there is 1072 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 1: be whoever you want to be, do whatever you want 1073 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,319 Speaker 1: to do. I would have That's what Prince did. That's 1074 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:42,399 Speaker 1: what did you know what I'm saying, that's what that's 1075 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 1: what did or whatever, because at the end of the day, 1076 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,799 Speaker 1: you're going to have your opinion. My nails, You're going 1077 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,919 Speaker 1: to have your opinion on it. His dress, You're gonna 1078 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 1: have an opinion on it. You're titled to do that. 1079 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 1: Names if Rick James offered me some coping, I'm sniffing 1080 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 1: cocon all that what you said, I am molly about you? 1081 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:17,720 Speaker 1: Somebody singing about Molly. When you said I popped Molly, 1082 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm sweat. Come in, Donor said I'm in, I'm coming. 1083 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 1: But as you and we're talking now, you know, and 1084 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,920 Speaker 1: you always from the first time we met, you know, 1085 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 1: just telling somebody this. Last night, I was talking to 1086 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 1: a little female and she was asking, like, how do 1087 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 1: this come about? What you did on Nori? I was like, 1088 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 1: you know what I meant. You know, you embraced me, 1089 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,520 Speaker 1: but just so it is and I would have never 1090 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,520 Speaker 1: thought that your energy It was like that. You know 1091 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because once again, if we just listen 1092 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 1: to somebody music exactly, you know what exactly it's like, Yeah, 1093 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,080 Speaker 1: I mean it's just different exactly, it's it's it's an Ora, 1094 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 1: it's or you're gonna live in an oral like me. Firstly, 1095 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,960 Speaker 1: um like Prell changed my life. I'm being honest. When 1096 00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 1: Perrell told me that, he said, Michael Jackson all this 1097 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 1: music that he made with Michael Jackson, but Michael Jackson 1098 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,680 Speaker 1: wanted the music that we made together. And it made 1099 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 1: me realize that sometimes you gotta watch what you say 1100 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 1: because you attracted, but sometimes you're gonna just attract something 1101 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 1: that maybe you didn't want or maybe you didn't know, 1102 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 1: but they're gonna be Justice is important, and I've always 1103 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 1: been that guy like to be able to go to 1104 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 1: the South early, like I've been working with David Bannam 1105 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 1: when he was in crook at Lettics. I was working 1106 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 1: with with Juvenile before. Yeah, I was working like like 1107 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,360 Speaker 1: I was like the first artist that cash Money work 1108 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 1: within New York. I knew what time it was in 1109 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,200 Speaker 1: the South because I had family in the South connect 1110 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 1: and yeah, and the thing is all I know, I 1111 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 1: gotta ask it to y'all and you gotta act it 1112 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 1: to me. We just saying it's like sorry to say 1113 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 1: people were sick. Bro, you gotta do rag let's go. 1114 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 1: I gotta make this is freaking up New York, right, Yeah, 1115 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 1: it's good, all right. So and so it was easy 1116 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 1: for me to actually what people call different not I 1117 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,680 Speaker 1: don't want to call him normal. And that's that's what 1118 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 1: even me and this brother like, um, you know, I 1119 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,560 Speaker 1: was coming to the South early, and I knew what 1120 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 1: I came to Miami. I was gonna come back and 1121 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,320 Speaker 1: I was gonna frequent and me and him develop this 1122 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 1: relationship and that's what that's really what it is. So 1123 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, the world is actually small if you're actually 1124 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,840 Speaker 1: really getting money and you're traveling, the world is small, 1125 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 1: like it's mad small, Like you can go to Dooms 1126 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,800 Speaker 1: the door of Dermany, the bumping that somebody getting Chinese food. 1127 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 1: You know what this thing is doing? Club, so spak 1128 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:04,440 Speaker 1: kicking him, make fi kick thinking we know your family 1129 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 1: owned clubs. You guys own the Branson vodka along with fifty. 1130 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 1: You gotta ellaboration together, you and the Branson vodka. Let's 1131 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 1: talk about it. So the Branson, um and the Champagne, 1132 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 1: the Shimen Deloy, and that's what we're moving now. Um 1133 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,919 Speaker 1: love how you said that ship bad fast. I don't 1134 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 1: think you know how to pronounce it very good the 1135 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:28,640 Speaker 1: way you pronounced it back, that's what it is. Okay, 1136 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 1: the Branson. That's what we're moving now. And then you 1137 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 1: know everything going on. It's not easy to be in 1138 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 1: the clubs and move the lick at the way we are, 1139 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:36,920 Speaker 1: but we're trying to make it work as best as 1140 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 1: we can. So what's going on with New York clubs? 1141 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,440 Speaker 1: Are we still shut down? We still shut down? To eleven? 1142 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 1: Now indoor dining is back open to eleven Jersey? You 1143 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 1: could they let in the town choose so like Elizabeth 1144 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 1: like called the twelve but the two in the morning 1145 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,480 Speaker 1: so zones he's owning it. Depending when this comes out. 1146 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 1: We don't know what's going on. But that's what it 1147 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 1: is for right now. Everybody goes to move to Atlanta. 1148 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:10,440 Speaker 1: Why open the Texas Texas? Really, I didn't know about 1149 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:16,400 Speaker 1: Texas spak. How many Trigorda records you spent? How like 1150 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 1: four or five? Okay? Okay, okay, okay. And New York 1151 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 1: were a tough crowd. Listen, New York can't get New 1152 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,360 Speaker 1: York club all the time. He was saying that you 1153 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:40,440 Speaker 1: see nigga like just speaking ran down there. This is 1154 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:41,960 Speaker 1: I don't have to make this stuff first, Like I 1155 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 1: literally heard it from the mouth of real New York 1156 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 1: niggas where they don't get to support that they feel 1157 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,640 Speaker 1: they truly deserved. And I felt them niggas deserved it too. 1158 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,080 Speaker 1: Just feel like eight years ago we should feel somebody 1159 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 1: like Pop Smoke getting all this love. But isn't it 1160 01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,160 Speaker 1: like a bit of sweet because Pop is getting When 1161 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 1: I'm listening, by the way, all my phones, when they 1162 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,400 Speaker 1: asked my address, I still put in my address now 1163 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:09,280 Speaker 1: seven seven Avenue, So everything is called is colded to. 1164 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 1: When I listened to my app, I get the New 1165 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 1: York commercials, I get the the traffic for the Triborough Bridge. Meanwhile, 1166 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,000 Speaker 1: I live it here for the last forty years. But 1167 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,919 Speaker 1: I listened up. Pop Smokes gets so much of this love. 1168 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,440 Speaker 1: But this isn't a kind of bitter suite because it's like, 1169 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't it meant more? Off? Pop was getting that love. 1170 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 1: He was alive, but he wasn't. He was in New York. 1171 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,360 Speaker 1: He was getting in love. But like when I was like, man, 1172 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 1: when I did not, but when I did the club, 1173 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,480 Speaker 1: it would have happened to him alive. It just happened 1174 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 1: to be Tortue. Travis would have got that. Travis got 1175 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,960 Speaker 1: that there at least at least the fishes were Travis 1176 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:55,280 Speaker 1: and quite. He dropped solid process again to come on 1177 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 1: late with the brass fifty. How you be late with 1178 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 1: direst It was I'm blaming it on fifty every time 1179 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:07,120 Speaker 1: we go an. But when I was in Musing in Texas, 1180 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,200 Speaker 1: I've seen the reaction, I'm like, damn, they really that 1181 01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 1: he was going after he was going after he was gone. 1182 01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 1: So when he was here, it wasn't out of town 1183 01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,200 Speaker 1: that big yet all. So last time we was here 1184 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,520 Speaker 1: before the pandemic shutdown, it was me, fifty and Pop. 1185 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,600 Speaker 1: We were in Miami. We did came with the Dream 1186 01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,200 Speaker 1: and we did Booby Trap and he's performing, but they 1187 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,920 Speaker 1: not welcome to the party. Early state, they didn't really 1188 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,000 Speaker 1: know it yet. The only reason they ranking the Strip 1189 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 1: Club because all the New York nigglas was in the 1190 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,440 Speaker 1: Strip Club. But Miami ain't really gravitated the way they 1191 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 1: gravitate to it now. Miami is always like that though. Yeah, 1192 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 1: it's still the South, you know what it's like. We 1193 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:46,520 Speaker 1: gotta look the album that he dropped before he passed away. 1194 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,400 Speaker 1: We had Element on it. The songs were Quavo or 1195 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,800 Speaker 1: whatever like that. By the time that album, I think 1196 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 1: the momentum goodness. Now he is legit amazing, Like from 1197 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 1: from that situation that you brought up in twenty to 1198 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 1: where it is now. That's all I'm saying. I was like, 1199 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 1: these artists to serve ticket their music playing, they're dope, 1200 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 1: And what's the artist right now? From New York? Far 1201 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 1: and fave rio, fabio, um c J J J J 1202 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,960 Speaker 1: I Bookie, No, it's Bookie, damn about to be o G. 1203 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:29,920 Speaker 1: You can't do that. So I don't know what it 1204 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,120 Speaker 1: was like. No, that's how fashion is going. But I 1205 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,960 Speaker 1: don't think we just got a good seventh Ace Bookie 1206 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:39,600 Speaker 1: Ace Bookie got a good what's que what's this? Homie? 1207 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,560 Speaker 1: Um q q al right? Who else? Who else? Put 1208 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:47,040 Speaker 1: me to some somebody? I shooting? Um? What's coming out 1209 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 1: of New York? And Jada Prince? Where do I? Chef G? 1210 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 1: Chef G sleepy hollow? Those dudes moving okay and they're 1211 01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 1: doing listen up, come on, come on, come on. You 1212 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:12,200 Speaker 1: ain't t't have me trap so much. Just can't watch 1213 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,560 Speaker 1: because when the table watch it, I just can't watch him. 1214 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,440 Speaker 1: He had me, had me a trap. I feel like 1215 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,880 Speaker 1: New York tried to come together. I think because oh, 1216 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 1: you always see the mean Atlanta they gets stayed together, yeah, 1217 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,120 Speaker 1: that thing. But New York it's like they traveling and 1218 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,160 Speaker 1: they're still being lokey competition each other. I don't know 1219 01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,640 Speaker 1: what it is. I was just playing to him earlier. 1220 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,720 Speaker 1: I think that's just the competition of the business. I 1221 01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 1: don't think it's New York New York. So I think 1222 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 1: that New York has the biggest energy where it's like 1223 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,520 Speaker 1: doggy dog energy, But I think it not to have 1224 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,520 Speaker 1: that anymore. I think I think we're for I'm saying 1225 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 1: from everything that I kicked off from when I got 1226 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:51,200 Speaker 1: my damn lashing from what I said, and then gradually, 1227 01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,440 Speaker 1: as you've seen, it was just like, look, you're so 1228 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,040 Speaker 1: much shot spake kid, Come on, baby, man, you can't 1229 01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:06,320 Speaker 1: let's go Let's go back. Don't da just go oh 1230 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,360 Speaker 1: smooth out too out of Brooklyn. Come on. Yeah, it's 1231 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 1: it's it's at the end of the day. Man's look, 1232 01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 1: if you're doing good music, you deserve And I'm gonna 1233 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 1: tell you, in two years, Atlanta is going to be 1234 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 1: worse than New York with the competition. You think, so, 1235 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 1: that's just not an energy. We have Southern hospitality at 1236 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 1: our core. Y'all don't, y'all don't that's the biggest difference 1237 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,320 Speaker 1: what he said it though. That's that's how he didn't it. 1238 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:36,040 Speaker 1: That's the it's the truth that the South before two 1239 01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,600 Speaker 1: years it's okay, but I'm gonna tell you this. I'm 1240 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,440 Speaker 1: Atlanta has always been ahead of everybody in terms of 1241 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:46,000 Speaker 1: their unity. Man. Yeah, but I've also seen the footages 1242 01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,960 Speaker 1: talking about it recently, I can't say nothing other than that. 1243 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 1: Talking about the footages, I think that I think that's 1244 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 1: at least saying like I think that this happens. What 1245 01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,240 Speaker 1: you're saying that it is correct. But you're saying amongst 1246 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,360 Speaker 1: the I don't think that's the music. I think that's 1247 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:08,479 Speaker 1: the undersmellingship. Same cold. These younger I like a little baby. 1248 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,680 Speaker 1: I like little baby, little baby, show up. He didn't 1249 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,840 Speaker 1: did songs with TI. He did songs for all these 1250 01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 1: older guys. And you know one thing, I'll give alan 1251 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,040 Speaker 1: cred the younger hearted. They always pay how much to 1252 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:21,280 Speaker 1: Jeez Gucci and they love to the older niggas New 1253 01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,840 Speaker 1: York niggers. Now they're gonna tell you that They're not 1254 01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,440 Speaker 1: gonna tell you that do a young New York artists 1255 01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,920 Speaker 1: show love to older New York niggas. Funk Jest started 1256 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,080 Speaker 1: like making niggas do songs with him or doing songs 1257 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:38,760 Speaker 1: doing him like you got something. I'm just saying, Look, 1258 01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm a t J too. I can tell you that. 1259 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:44,320 Speaker 1: I'm just saying. You know what I'm saying. It's like, 1260 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:50,720 Speaker 1: that's that's why it times back in it again. Young, 1261 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,480 Speaker 1: I don't see this was crazy? You know what's crazy? Um? 1262 01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:01,240 Speaker 1: I think I said this with Lords of the Underground, 1263 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:06,680 Speaker 1: Is there or it'd be important for the older dudes 1264 01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:12,960 Speaker 1: to keep looking good. I don't think that's the I 1265 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,200 Speaker 1: think that the old, the middle class and the young 1266 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:19,000 Speaker 1: are on the same rat race. It's one chart and 1267 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,320 Speaker 1: we perman rator right Erban radio is one chart right, 1268 01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:24,600 Speaker 1: and we're talking about industry and industry because we we 1269 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:29,280 Speaker 1: miss conscrewed culture and industry and there's a cross road. 1270 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,599 Speaker 1: But there's two different day so you have to use 1271 01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:38,519 Speaker 1: For example, you have t I Le and uh chef 1272 01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,240 Speaker 1: g all competing for the same spot of Herban Radio, 1273 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,760 Speaker 1: which is like different age range. You know, tis his 1274 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,240 Speaker 1: age's his age, chefs age. Because there's only one chart, 1275 01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,320 Speaker 1: it's only one charge. It's not like, oh this is 1276 01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,800 Speaker 1: the twenty and under charge. This is the understand what 1277 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:56,880 Speaker 1: you say, one charts totality, but overall, I don't think 1278 01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,640 Speaker 1: we're compete for the same But there's there's different platforms though, 1279 01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,479 Speaker 1: because as an artist is big on TikTok, where he 1280 01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 1: not big on radio. Isn't this powerful radios? Last I'm 1281 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,559 Speaker 1: gonna be on the club. We're here in the club 1282 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:10,840 Speaker 1: and the record of break like this is it. Then 1283 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,559 Speaker 1: it gets on radio after it's old to us now 1284 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,720 Speaker 1: because it's like they're playing they added songs now from 1285 01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,439 Speaker 1: pop on radio it's like, Bro, that's two years old. 1286 01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,439 Speaker 1: How is that being added now? That's because they running 1287 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,080 Speaker 1: on a song. They just trying to keep him on 1288 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,080 Speaker 1: the radio. That they shut you a fifty down with 1289 01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,240 Speaker 1: the Aces club. What happened with what club? Police? I 1290 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,479 Speaker 1: thought you had a club together, you fifty and Aces, 1291 01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,320 Speaker 1: And then I heard the police said, it's not gonna happen. No, no, no. 1292 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:38,840 Speaker 1: My brother started Lust in Brooklyn. Lust and Brooklyn Lust 1293 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,599 Speaker 1: and Brooklyn. We had the club. They the cops kept 1294 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:43,600 Speaker 1: doing nove on wone calls. Come to find out the 1295 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:48,360 Speaker 1: cops were running, uh drugs and gambling around the corner 1296 01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,439 Speaker 1: in the hotel. So the cops they were trying to 1297 01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,120 Speaker 1: put that test on us. It was then they got rated. 1298 01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,280 Speaker 1: They all got fired. It was a whole bunch of ship. 1299 01:09:54,640 --> 01:10:03,360 Speaker 1: I went to Beat, I went to We're not gonna 1300 01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,000 Speaker 1: But it was just crazy that it was always attack 1301 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,880 Speaker 1: on us. Bro. But that was a place that I 1302 01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:13,920 Speaker 1: felt was like a s ob Sits one of the 1303 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,240 Speaker 1: best quality of what I'm saying because a lot of artists, 1304 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,479 Speaker 1: a lot of artists came out of there and be honest, 1305 01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:22,840 Speaker 1: Boogie Fettie designer, a lot of young and maid Bobby 1306 01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,960 Speaker 1: Smirt when he first came up, came out. Yeah, it 1307 01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,120 Speaker 1: was that moment where everything like when Hot Nick came 1308 01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,960 Speaker 1: on the first time in that club, seeing that reaction, 1309 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,680 Speaker 1: it was just it was different from Credible song. It 1310 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:35,280 Speaker 1: was different than the strip club. It was kind of 1311 01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:41,040 Speaker 1: like a showcase. Was everybody through their hats. No, yeah, 1312 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:47,400 Speaker 1: that's what I obviously thinking. But I thought up he 1313 01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,120 Speaker 1: could come home. It was your brody Roddy home. You 1314 01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,599 Speaker 1: knew we rowdy, you know, I never I never got 1315 01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,360 Speaker 1: to meet both of them, but huge fans. I noticed 1316 01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,439 Speaker 1: that if I meet them, I'll just give them them flowers. 1317 01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,000 Speaker 1: You know, I don't need to be we don't need 1318 01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,280 Speaker 1: to be friends or anything or whatever. But like I 1319 01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 1: just respect that, like they respect each other. I love 1320 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 1: people who work in unity. I love people that stay down. 1321 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying when I don't know how 1322 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:11,800 Speaker 1: true it is. But when they said that Bobby took 1323 01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,080 Speaker 1: more time, so that Roddy you know what I'm saying, 1324 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:15,760 Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Like he could have 1325 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,920 Speaker 1: got out earlier, but he took more time because he 1326 01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,240 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna stitch on this man. To me, there's things 1327 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,280 Speaker 1: that just don't happen at often in life, not even 1328 01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,559 Speaker 1: your first record. You said, I don't folk with nose snitches. 1329 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:28,439 Speaker 1: That's just not my thing. You know what I'm saying. 1330 01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,000 Speaker 1: It's like I live by the moral code that every 1331 01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,320 Speaker 1: man should live, you know what I'm saying. They might 1332 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,000 Speaker 1: not look the same as all did you do it? 1333 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,479 Speaker 1: But I still live about the same for you or whatever, 1334 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,160 Speaker 1: and it shouldn't be, but it's not. And we know 1335 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,080 Speaker 1: that a simple as that. We'll make you take that 1336 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,320 Speaker 1: as prost because you say, like you know, you your 1337 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,920 Speaker 1: style and people you was, you know, working at a 1338 01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,519 Speaker 1: boutique store. But we'll make you still take that same 1339 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,240 Speaker 1: morral code as a person that is, you know, sleeping 1340 01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,320 Speaker 1: crack twenty four something. I mean, I think that at 1341 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,400 Speaker 1: the end of the day, man, if I don't have 1342 01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,640 Speaker 1: me the man to get when I look in the 1343 01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:02,360 Speaker 1: mirror in the morning, and I will never have me. 1344 01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:06,840 Speaker 1: The artists together that was like the big defining moment 1345 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:08,840 Speaker 1: for me or whatever. It was like, Look, if I 1346 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,439 Speaker 1: can't figure out who I am and who I love 1347 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,759 Speaker 1: to be, then whatever you think of trind that James, 1348 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:18,160 Speaker 1: that's just gonna die real soon or whatever, because I 1349 01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,719 Speaker 1: have to know who I am as the man, because 1350 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,000 Speaker 1: the man was the man before y'all labeled me. The 1351 01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,720 Speaker 1: man has Trinda James. Trinda James is a title. But 1352 01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:29,439 Speaker 1: I was, like I said, I had a great high 1353 01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,560 Speaker 1: school career. I was lit in the streets before I 1354 01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:36,719 Speaker 1: came into the game. I love the streets that because 1355 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,960 Speaker 1: I know how to do business in it. You know 1356 01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I love that. I hate that we're 1357 01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,479 Speaker 1: in the pandemic. I hate that. But it got me 1358 01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 1: back to my old hustles. It got me back to 1359 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,439 Speaker 1: my fashion. It got me back to cannabis, and I 1360 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,600 Speaker 1: was legal. You know what I'm saying. You know what 1361 01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,559 Speaker 1: I'm saying that it's a whole different experience than when 1362 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:56,960 Speaker 1: I was trying to make it out here in the 1363 01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,479 Speaker 1: streets as an immigrant with no green card. Completely different. 1364 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,280 Speaker 1: He's yourself with on the shop. Both of y'all know, 1365 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:11,240 Speaker 1: seperate cup, separate cup, separate cup. This guy separate cup 1366 01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,840 Speaker 1: from the regular drink because I want you to still drink, 1367 01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,360 Speaker 1: but you have this is a shot cup. You know 1368 01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,960 Speaker 1: what I mean? That we're over here, baby, Let's do it, 1369 01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:31,320 Speaker 1: how y'all Jesus that one hit hard, So what's next? 1370 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,120 Speaker 1: So for me, I'm on my business stuff. You know, 1371 01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm really crazy on black owned businesses. I brought black 1372 01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:42,320 Speaker 1: owned food restaurant. Talk to me. Still on complex, still 1373 01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,240 Speaker 1: with the same complex we got. We're in season nine. 1374 01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:47,479 Speaker 1: We don't need a hundred plus episodes full size what 1375 01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:49,880 Speaker 1: you did the drive revolt to right, so revolt. I 1376 01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:51,960 Speaker 1: was doing the Dad talks where I do affirmation with 1377 01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,240 Speaker 1: the day. That was incredible, Right, that was incredible. But 1378 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,200 Speaker 1: I love that revolt. I love when people give a 1379 01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,320 Speaker 1: funk about positive stuff because the reality the industry don't 1380 01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,599 Speaker 1: give a about positive stuff. They want to make negative money, 1381 01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:08,439 Speaker 1: negative negative money. That was the best money on earth. 1382 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:14,639 Speaker 1: And ask me telling like mediam negative negative Like it's 1383 01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:18,479 Speaker 1: not like, ain't nobody still want? You want to control negative? 1384 01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:22,240 Speaker 1: When you control your negatives, when you can train negatives different. 1385 01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,000 Speaker 1: I just want to talk about taking mollyg because I 1386 01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,320 Speaker 1: think Molly is a great thing. But you talking about 1387 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,600 Speaker 1: but you talk about the mayor, don't talk about you. 1388 01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 1: You talk about you taking Molledge. Other man talking about you? It, Yeah, 1389 01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:40,880 Speaker 1: it's you gotta relax, talk crazy talt to be doesn't man? 1390 01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:44,760 Speaker 1: You correct me apart wrong. I think Molly is fucking fantastic. 1391 01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,439 Speaker 1: Molly is incredible. I've been done it in a long time. 1392 01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,320 Speaker 1: That's not something you do every day. It's like weed. Yeah. 1393 01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,160 Speaker 1: I mean to the person who doesn't every day, power 1394 01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:56,679 Speaker 1: to you. No, no, don't you gotta relax. You're different, different. 1395 01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,320 Speaker 1: There's people that do coke every day. For me, you should, 1396 01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:04,040 Speaker 1: you should talk everything. But people that something goes wrong 1397 01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:06,600 Speaker 1: give us a cocaine story. So I can't give you 1398 01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:10,200 Speaker 1: a cocaine story. Don't do cocaine. That's not my thing. 1399 01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:14,040 Speaker 1: Don't do it. I've never never done cocaine. I feel, actually, 1400 01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:19,479 Speaker 1: take a shot. Let's take it on the shot cocaine. 1401 01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:27,519 Speaker 1: I don't say we have some here, it's cocaine. I 1402 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:35,040 Speaker 1: got it right here. You know, you ever gonna shot cool? Something? 1403 01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:39,200 Speaker 1: Little is the best drink. Champ stories in the world. 1404 01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:43,560 Speaker 1: Trade that wants and they got shots. But take it 1405 01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,360 Speaker 1: where you was that? What was that? So? You know 1406 01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,280 Speaker 1: right now, where I'm at with it is we're in 1407 01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,280 Speaker 1: a We're in a pandemic. You know, if anybody looking 1408 01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,080 Speaker 1: at this, whether it's twenty years from now, two years 1409 01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,840 Speaker 1: from now, we're in the pandemic, and the only people 1410 01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,920 Speaker 1: that's going to make money, the only people that's going 1411 01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,240 Speaker 1: to be happy with themselves, people that's adapting to what's 1412 01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,439 Speaker 1: going on. You can't do no shows right now. I 1413 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,639 Speaker 1: just I dropped the album. And my album is incredible 1414 01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,679 Speaker 1: that I dropped. I dropped in August. It's called Black Filter. 1415 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:10,439 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. For people who don't know, 1416 01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,720 Speaker 1: check it out. I know that it's fired, you know, 1417 01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,800 Speaker 1: but you know I did twelve videos out of thirteen songs. 1418 01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,160 Speaker 1: You know how hard it is to videos independently at 1419 01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,560 Speaker 1: your own pocket. It is what it is. But I 1420 01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:23,640 Speaker 1: put that work in. But at the end of the day, 1421 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,080 Speaker 1: we can't do no shows. And you know, the show 1422 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,200 Speaker 1: is what makes us lit. The shows what really bring 1423 01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:28,800 Speaker 1: us in that back end, that brings us in the 1424 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,400 Speaker 1: front end, that really bring us in the money to 1425 01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,640 Speaker 1: keep going or whatever. So at the end of the day, 1426 01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:34,400 Speaker 1: we're in the pandemic. I know, I just had to 1427 01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,639 Speaker 1: figure it out, like I gotta adjust because once again, 1428 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,120 Speaker 1: I still don't have no big homies. I'm still I'm 1429 01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,320 Speaker 1: my big homie. I'm everybody else's big homie. That's the 1430 01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:47,320 Speaker 1: truth world piece. That's my big that's my big homie. 1431 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:52,160 Speaker 1: That's what you got together. So he does his own 1432 01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:54,680 Speaker 1: He's doing his own basketball league, and I'm helping him 1433 01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,920 Speaker 1: with it. You know, he's a very very smart brother. 1434 01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,639 Speaker 1: You know. His basketball league is to help everybody because 1435 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,120 Speaker 1: you know, the NBA is the NBA, right, but just 1436 01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:04,479 Speaker 1: because you don't make it the NBA, and I don't 1437 01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,559 Speaker 1: mean if you're not a good basketball player, that don't 1438 01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,400 Speaker 1: mean that you can't make money for playing basketball leading. 1439 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,000 Speaker 1: So he's building the league to bring that concept to 1440 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:15,720 Speaker 1: players who you know, you're the truth, but you might 1441 01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:17,840 Speaker 1: not can't get into the league and still be able 1442 01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,320 Speaker 1: to find runs to play in to get scouts to 1443 01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,000 Speaker 1: come out and look at you. We also got that 1444 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:27,840 Speaker 1: league too. We just had a smooth champs all of 1445 01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:32,560 Speaker 1: the out. Listen, listen, did you see right? And you 1446 01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:40,960 Speaker 1: mosted to know he know academics that had no choice, 1447 01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:48,320 Speaker 1: but by the way we was. We also interview Tory 1448 01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,479 Speaker 1: Lanes when he first had the surgery, when he first 1449 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:54,360 Speaker 1: had y'all me when it right? Did he admit that 1450 01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to remember he was. I feel that 1451 01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,719 Speaker 1: he was like Tories, like bro, that's a gotta understand 1452 01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,439 Speaker 1: for it, and we're men here talking you know, and 1453 01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,800 Speaker 1: want it. No great hands. My ball paid on me 1454 01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:12,080 Speaker 1: every time he came here. When he lives that hair 1455 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,160 Speaker 1: or like your hairline is not right, and when you're 1456 01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,920 Speaker 1: not as a man, that funks with your ego. It 1457 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,080 Speaker 1: does no matter what the type of man you are. 1458 01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,000 Speaker 1: So the fact that he was able to find what 1459 01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,040 Speaker 1: helps him be a better man. Once again, if you're 1460 01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,280 Speaker 1: the man or right you the artist would be great. Yeah, 1461 01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,400 Speaker 1: he like twenty nine, like under the thirties, so like 1462 01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:33,920 Speaker 1: it might be fucking ju human like takeing sign out there. 1463 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:53,760 Speaker 1: It's different different differently. It's the holy and this one 1464 01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,400 Speaker 1: was crazy. Anybody who was doing you got to take 1465 01:18:56,439 --> 01:19:00,920 Speaker 1: his hat off, could go sign my story. By the way, 1466 01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:03,559 Speaker 1: we didn't. Things are gonna come. We had a whole 1467 01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,200 Speaker 1: weekend playing Smoke Chace Week and Smoke Chats podcast. So 1468 01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:10,639 Speaker 1: Friday we had hamball, handball, real handball? Are you really 1469 01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:21,519 Speaker 1: good at hand? This ship a right? Listen, I get 1470 01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,439 Speaker 1: back to that. Get somebody trying to still my idea. 1471 01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:29,479 Speaker 1: On Friday had handball. On Saturday we had basketball. Now 1472 01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:34,760 Speaker 1: I was injured on Friday. Somebody injured me because they 1473 01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:36,360 Speaker 1: knew what I was going to do on Saturday, and 1474 01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,800 Speaker 1: I feel like it was him, even though he was 1475 01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:46,800 Speaker 1: nowhere around heah yeah, look at that. So this Saturday 1476 01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:52,479 Speaker 1: and then like mind you, I'm like, you know, I'm 1477 01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,479 Speaker 1: not thinking too are we're gonna come through? But I 1478 01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,800 Speaker 1: think he's gonna come through. I know, you know what 1479 01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,880 Speaker 1: everything that's going on. He knows the camera's gonna be 1480 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:04,040 Speaker 1: he did to him. I don't know what you mean 1481 01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:09,120 Speaker 1: right now, he's the code. You know, the camera's gonna 1482 01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,400 Speaker 1: be an So I'm not you know that the homeline 1483 01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:16,240 Speaker 1: he pulls up, give him a shirt, so I don't 1484 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,960 Speaker 1: really realize what's going on. He jumped on the court 1485 01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:26,200 Speaker 1: and now everybody like, yo, y'all they clear his hand 1486 01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,719 Speaker 1: like that. I didn't know what they were talking about, 1487 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,040 Speaker 1: and I'm alright, cool. You know, the thought it was 1488 01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,840 Speaker 1: a different dude. You know, y'all think they're artistic because 1489 01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:44,760 Speaker 1: in there they're artistic. Somebody's guys artistic. He's artistic. He's autistic. Autistic. 1490 01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,200 Speaker 1: Like twenty minutes later, as were there in the shade 1491 01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:55,840 Speaker 1: room posted it as weird there and I looked and 1492 01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:59,000 Speaker 1: the comments just like, look at it's George Jefferson, and 1493 01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,360 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, they disrespectful. You don't remember Jorge 1494 01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,479 Speaker 1: it you know what we know. But Tore gets the jokes. 1495 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,160 Speaker 1: He has it happened. I mean, he knew and he 1496 01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,400 Speaker 1: don't give it that. He don't have a person to 1497 01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,479 Speaker 1: do something like that on purpose, because he is in 1498 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,719 Speaker 1: control of his negative. To go back to what you're saying, 1499 01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,439 Speaker 1: he's in control of his negative. Ever, for the time, 1500 01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,320 Speaker 1: he wasn't in control your negatives time in the beginning, 1501 01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,200 Speaker 1: like people wouldn't like you one of your situation. I 1502 01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:28,160 Speaker 1: wasn't controlling my negative. I wasn't would if I knew better, 1503 01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:30,880 Speaker 1: I would know to like no, no, no, no, no, 1504 01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,040 Speaker 1: no no, I'm going to pull up on somebody in 1505 01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,320 Speaker 1: New York. I actually stopped coming to New York for 1506 01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,880 Speaker 1: two years because I felt like prior to that, the 1507 01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:45,679 Speaker 1: whole New York was working with me hard. I didn't 1508 01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:49,880 Speaker 1: Santo Santo the Playhouse. Shout out to my girl, Lola Santos, 1509 01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:55,120 Speaker 1: that's the lect acoustic place. It was crazy or whatever 1510 01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:59,320 Speaker 1: me cool. We shut that place down. That was definitely Santace. 1511 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,280 Speaker 1: So you know, I don't want to make it exact. 1512 01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:05,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't make this up. I don't have to make 1513 01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:08,040 Speaker 1: things up. I don't live in that world. Exaggeration, go ahead, 1514 01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:11,560 Speaker 1: don't you know? So you know, as far as not 1515 01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:15,559 Speaker 1: being in control of my negative if, like I said, 1516 01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,600 Speaker 1: if I had a big homie or somebody at the 1517 01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,000 Speaker 1: time to be like, hey, bro, look you're saying what 1518 01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,920 Speaker 1: you said. You meant what you said, but you didn't 1519 01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,840 Speaker 1: deliver the right way. Go clean that up, go make 1520 01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,400 Speaker 1: that right or whatever I said. Man, I just felt 1521 01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:31,880 Speaker 1: like New York portrayed me. I just left New York 1522 01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:33,280 Speaker 1: alone for two years and I ain't come for two 1523 01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,560 Speaker 1: years because people who I was cool with and like 1524 01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:43,639 Speaker 1: showed when I get yeah no the New York comments, 1525 01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:48,320 Speaker 1: so you know he's talking about it. In December, I 1526 01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:53,160 Speaker 1: did a show um for a Converse right, and coming 1527 01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:56,559 Speaker 1: into the show, I felt the type of way towards 1528 01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,560 Speaker 1: the business that was going on in my life. And 1529 01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,320 Speaker 1: so every time I do a song between my intermission, 1530 01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:06,280 Speaker 1: I'll just start talking, talking or whatever. Everything I was 1531 01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:10,840 Speaker 1: saying what's true from the standpoint of I felt that 1532 01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:14,800 Speaker 1: New York needs to support New York. Hard is more money, Yes, 1533 01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,400 Speaker 1: But I wasn't the person to say that I wouldn't 1534 01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:21,200 Speaker 1: the person was supposed to said that, I've never lived 1535 01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:23,920 Speaker 1: like you're from New York. Know, that's what people say, 1536 01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:28,240 Speaker 1: That's what people said. For me, I'm saying the truth 1537 01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,720 Speaker 1: because I only know the truth. If I'm on tour 1538 01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,000 Speaker 1: with all the ASTAT crew and all these people, and 1539 01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:38,720 Speaker 1: and everybody's complaining about how New York Radio New York 1540 01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,840 Speaker 1: DJs treat them, I'm like, damn, these dudes hard as fuck. 1541 01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:44,120 Speaker 1: These dudes are dope. We just did a whole tour together. 1542 01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:47,679 Speaker 1: I know these brothers are dope. I know that they're amazing. 1543 01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:51,559 Speaker 1: I love their show. They're great. Y'all need to get better. 1544 01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,519 Speaker 1: And the person that you always challenge if you want 1545 01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,800 Speaker 1: to make a change is to people. It's power to 1546 01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,880 Speaker 1: the people is the consumer. The consumers who always going 1547 01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:02,240 Speaker 1: to make the biggest difference. If the label counts you out. 1548 01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,160 Speaker 1: If you look at Sure, if you look at if 1549 01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,200 Speaker 1: you look at Shaggy Shaggy, if you look at the 1550 01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,800 Speaker 1: story of Shaggy and it wasn't what is the story 1551 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:15,320 Speaker 1: of shaky Man? No, no, no, A great, great story. 1552 01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:20,920 Speaker 1: But I can't do that, sty I'm gonna use that. Yeah. 1553 01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:27,960 Speaker 1: Cheers it's gonna be nice what you're doing. That cocaine 1554 01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:35,160 Speaker 1: let me. I went to con and I was let 1555 01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:41,240 Speaker 1: and this is gonna happen. This, it's gonna happen. This 1556 01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:55,000 Speaker 1: a little bit farewell for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody 1557 01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:59,599 Speaker 1: shot guys. So you know, it's one of those type 1558 01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,559 Speaker 1: of things where I learned my lesson. I learned my lesson. 1559 01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:08,400 Speaker 1: I can't help. But two, I felt that I and 1560 01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:10,840 Speaker 1: I looked at my power, maybe the wrong way, but 1561 01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:12,519 Speaker 1: I looked at the power that I had would all 1562 01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,720 Speaker 1: go everything, but that I need to speak up for them. 1563 01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:19,840 Speaker 1: And obviously I didn't think it was gonna be taken away. 1564 01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:21,880 Speaker 1: They was taken but when I look back at it, 1565 01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:26,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't right. Let me ask you something, Right, it's 1566 01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,880 Speaker 1: been a time right when I had to flag and 1567 01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,920 Speaker 1: I gave people the flag, and then I realized when 1568 01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:35,000 Speaker 1: they had to flag, they at anyone look at me. 1569 01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,280 Speaker 1: You ever went through that, meaning like when you had 1570 01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:41,600 Speaker 1: the biggest stage and you're life, you gave somebody or 1571 01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,000 Speaker 1: you shared that stage with somebody. Has it ever been 1572 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,200 Speaker 1: a time when that same person had that time in 1573 01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:49,840 Speaker 1: their life? Oh? I love that question because they can 1574 01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:51,599 Speaker 1: ti U back to what we're talking about with Young Thug. 1575 01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,519 Speaker 1: That's why I love Young Thug. And if I wasn't 1576 01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,960 Speaker 1: to make it till tomorrow, Young Thug got to know 1577 01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,920 Speaker 1: that he's the realist person that I ever dealt with, 1578 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,400 Speaker 1: because remember showing him that love. Like I told you 1579 01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:06,960 Speaker 1: about Boom when it was a time when I came 1580 01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:09,840 Speaker 1: to his show in l A maybe three years ago. 1581 01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:13,240 Speaker 1: Somebody that two years ago, I don't know, and um, 1582 01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,760 Speaker 1: you know I'm there. I'm supporting. I love him. He's crazy. 1583 01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:17,720 Speaker 1: He's one of the best artists on the earth to me, 1584 01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,439 Speaker 1: you know. And you know I'm supporting him as love 1585 01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,639 Speaker 1: or whatever, like I bought him stuff for his birthday 1586 01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:27,160 Speaker 1: or whatever. I love his sisters, I love the family. 1587 01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:29,240 Speaker 1: I love his mom. I'm cool with his mama. You 1588 01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying this love like I got the 1589 01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:34,559 Speaker 1: utmost respect dude, Gunna, all these people like I've known 1590 01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,160 Speaker 1: Gunna before Gunna was part of YL. I knew him 1591 01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:39,280 Speaker 1: when he was coming up and trying to figure it out, 1592 01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:41,479 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like coming to fly Kicks, 1593 01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,719 Speaker 1: which was a dope store in a land off Peter Street. Whatever, 1594 01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:46,720 Speaker 1: I've seen these people come up, you know what I'm saying. 1595 01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:49,360 Speaker 1: So like when they make it to me, that gets 1596 01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:53,800 Speaker 1: me fucking excited because that's what I care about. I 1597 01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:58,760 Speaker 1: don't care about being the best nigga. I'm an immigrant 1598 01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,200 Speaker 1: from the Thug showed you love back so boom, he's 1599 01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,720 Speaker 1: doing the show or whatever, Like I'm there for a 1600 01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:06,280 Speaker 1: long time. You know, when you come to somebody to show, 1601 01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,200 Speaker 1: you might come too early and he don't go on 1602 01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,120 Speaker 1: to he ready to go on, and you don't be 1603 01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:16,479 Speaker 1: in there. You've seen every opening and act, right, I'm 1604 01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:26,320 Speaker 1: not saying everybody security things security. He's so boom, you 1605 01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,640 Speaker 1: know he's performing whatever. I was like, you know what 1606 01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:31,559 Speaker 1: I've seen because I've been to numerous Young Thug shows. 1607 01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,280 Speaker 1: I've seen the show. You know, boom. I appreciate it. 1608 01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,920 Speaker 1: I got things to do. I leave out, I leave 1609 01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,920 Speaker 1: the show. I wouldn't getting to leave. Somebody run out like, 1610 01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:43,320 Speaker 1: hey bro, young thug, I want you to come before 1611 01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:47,160 Speaker 1: or whatever, so we gotta run back in. Boom boo 1612 01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,320 Speaker 1: boo boom. And he brings me out to perform in 1613 01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:51,519 Speaker 1: front of his l a crowd, which at the time 1614 01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,840 Speaker 1: was a big deal. According to what project was, it 1615 01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,400 Speaker 1: was no No, it was amazing, you know, and it's 1616 01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:01,000 Speaker 1: just things like that. To me, that's the really ship 1617 01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:04,320 Speaker 1: that ever happened. That's the that's like, that's the real questions. 1618 01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,519 Speaker 1: But is that is that one of the only people 1619 01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:10,680 Speaker 1: that you show love or is there other people that 1620 01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,400 Speaker 1: showed you love that after a time because they're like 1621 01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:15,880 Speaker 1: listen and reggae, don't let me stop. You may not 1622 01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:19,679 Speaker 1: even go there, Go ahead, go there, man, but there 1623 01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:24,000 Speaker 1: already show love too that when they had that same chance, 1624 01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:25,519 Speaker 1: they didn't show a love to be bad. There's a 1625 01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:27,519 Speaker 1: lot of people in WRAP that did the same chance. 1626 01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:29,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't say it wrap, this wrap I 1627 01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,600 Speaker 1: circled around too many times, but I wouldn't need to 1628 01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:35,360 Speaker 1: ask you. Is there anybody that, like you, showed super 1629 01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:37,360 Speaker 1: love to it and you was disappointed to when it 1630 01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:40,680 Speaker 1: came time for you to receive that reciprocal love that 1631 01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,800 Speaker 1: your forty acres in your mule for lack of the 1632 01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,760 Speaker 1: pre term, well, I don't look at it as the 1633 01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:48,760 Speaker 1: forty acres in the mule. I look at it as 1634 01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,559 Speaker 1: as a mutual respect, you know, to be reciprocated. Right 1635 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:56,560 Speaker 1: now on the record, no, t I know, are you 1636 01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:00,320 Speaker 1: sure to change. I haven't asked, but you don't know. 1637 01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:04,479 Speaker 1: Don't say no for sure? Maybe they would. I love 1638 01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:12,320 Speaker 1: that energy. I love the energy. Look like, I don't 1639 01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:16,080 Speaker 1: want you to just shut it out because that you 1640 01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:17,880 Speaker 1: don't want to be told no, so you'd rather just 1641 01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,360 Speaker 1: not asked. I don't. I don't like that. I don't 1642 01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:23,720 Speaker 1: like the answer now because if I say yes to you, 1643 01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:28,040 Speaker 1: it's so one hundred and ten thousand percent, And it's 1644 01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:31,040 Speaker 1: not just I'm saying yesterday. I'm nobody yes man that 1645 01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,080 Speaker 1: if I ask you for something, I'm not trying to 1646 01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:35,400 Speaker 1: come up off for your frame or whoever you are. 1647 01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:40,559 Speaker 1: I'm literally I love music. I'm an incredible producer of records. 1648 01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:42,320 Speaker 1: That's why I do really good in the writing world. 1649 01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:44,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I got a number one 1650 01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,920 Speaker 1: last year with Queen Nigel writing records. You know what 1651 01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:51,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like, I love music. I love making 1652 01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,800 Speaker 1: people be better. Like I said, my background is being 1653 01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,479 Speaker 1: a stylist. What does the stylish job to make you 1654 01:29:56,560 --> 01:30:00,640 Speaker 1: feel better about yourself going out? So that's my background. 1655 01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:04,320 Speaker 1: So if I asked you to do something, dog, I'm 1656 01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:08,080 Speaker 1: a grown ass man, I'm actually something because it's goned. 1657 01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:10,519 Speaker 1: Somebody you asked to do something, they didn't do it. 1658 01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:13,839 Speaker 1: So I'm sorry to ask your question. I feel like August, 1659 01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:17,200 Speaker 1: I've seen it off top off top. I'm gonna go 1660 01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:21,439 Speaker 1: there because I felt that, and I understand why it 1661 01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:24,360 Speaker 1: went that way. This before the entanglement. This is before 1662 01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:28,599 Speaker 1: the entagle Man, This before the entagle, This before the entacle. 1663 01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:30,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, if we're gonna if 1664 01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:33,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna go there, we gotta go there. You know 1665 01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:37,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I seen him. I feel like I 1666 01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:41,240 Speaker 1: was what happened when it was time to come back around. 1667 01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:45,120 Speaker 1: I felt that the industry captivated them and it really 1668 01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:48,200 Speaker 1: hurt that brother, and that that affected the way that 1669 01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:51,080 Speaker 1: they treated somebody who was actually genuine with him because 1670 01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:53,519 Speaker 1: he couldn't trust somebody. But you say this is after 1671 01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:58,680 Speaker 1: because after all, right, like the pole juice, right, do 1672 01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:00,880 Speaker 1: you get dryed? Anybody get dropped from Labory? You got 1673 01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:03,840 Speaker 1: the Poople juice. It wasn't the time you had the 1674 01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:07,439 Speaker 1: Poople juice, because that's like two thousand juice. Yeah, I 1675 01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:09,479 Speaker 1: understand where it's coming from. So let me give you 1676 01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:18,240 Speaker 1: the companies. Let me now, let me get you. I tweeted, 1677 01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:22,559 Speaker 1: I tweeted to people or whatever that boom boom. People think, definitely, 1678 01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:25,640 Speaker 1: I've never dropped me. They never dropped me. That's the 1679 01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:29,200 Speaker 1: fact that people love Nike and Jeff jampor Temina. They 1680 01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:32,000 Speaker 1: dropped me. I would love a niked death genera temen 1681 01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:37,680 Speaker 1: they dropped I would love it. The actual reality of 1682 01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:43,439 Speaker 1: the situation is that I requested from and it took 1683 01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:46,080 Speaker 1: two years for them to be like, all right, we'll 1684 01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:48,640 Speaker 1: let you go. I requested to be let go of 1685 01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:51,320 Speaker 1: the label, to be let off the label because nobody 1686 01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:55,439 Speaker 1: was there for me. Period. Nobody has never been there 1687 01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:58,160 Speaker 1: for me. I had to be there for me, which 1688 01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm not complaining about because right now, in this very moment, 1689 01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm there for me. And that's what it's about. Like 1690 01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:07,880 Speaker 1: Kanye never helped out, Kanye reached out. Can you reached out? 1691 01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:11,799 Speaker 1: I remember Kanye reached out. Can you reached out? Or whatever? 1692 01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:15,080 Speaker 1: But I just feel that I do you see thinking 1693 01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:17,240 Speaker 1: people you still think about it, like, bro, I respect you. 1694 01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:20,880 Speaker 1: You You're Nori to me. I respect you, but if 1695 01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:24,320 Speaker 1: the way that you approached me is not respectable, then 1696 01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:26,120 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna deal with you. Bro, what you mean? 1697 01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:29,200 Speaker 1: So Kanye came, So Kanye, Kanye reached out through his 1698 01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:32,599 Speaker 1: man's who is my man's to do something? I want 1699 01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:39,160 Speaker 1: my man's right, And the way that he reached out 1700 01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:41,920 Speaker 1: for me to do something for him, I felt like 1701 01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,439 Speaker 1: he didn't care about me. I got tired and I 1702 01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:46,680 Speaker 1: already went through this with t I. I went through 1703 01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:49,560 Speaker 1: this with je Z where I felt like these o 1704 01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:52,519 Speaker 1: g s because to me, I'm from Atlanta, Bro, these 1705 01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:54,880 Speaker 1: are o gs. To me, You're not a hot rapper. 1706 01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,640 Speaker 1: To me, you're O G who's a legend you up 1707 01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:00,400 Speaker 1: there with? You know how I look at Andre, how 1708 01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:02,559 Speaker 1: I look at Big Boy, how I look at Cel, 1709 01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:06,120 Speaker 1: you know how I look at Dungeon family. So it's like, Bro, 1710 01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:10,559 Speaker 1: these people always gave me knowledge. Like the first thing 1711 01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,040 Speaker 1: I asked Andre, he did say no to it, but 1712 01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:15,280 Speaker 1: he still gave me knowledge that made me a better artist. 1713 01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:18,640 Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. And I couldn't get that 1714 01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:21,640 Speaker 1: from them. And maybe that's not how their parents but 1715 01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:25,240 Speaker 1: even maybe that's not how their parenting skills go or whatever, 1716 01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I'm still a young 1717 01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:29,680 Speaker 1: brother trying to figure it out. And they knew that. 1718 01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:33,439 Speaker 1: They knew that. If you talk huh, we're talking about 1719 01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:35,479 Speaker 1: we're talking about all those people. We're talking about the 1720 01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:39,560 Speaker 1: the t S, the j Zys, these people. Uh that 1721 01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:43,280 Speaker 1: for my past. We're a great place for us in 1722 01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:47,400 Speaker 1: New York. We were. We think that they're not. We 1723 01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:50,759 Speaker 1: look at y'all like y'all old, get along everybody new artists. 1724 01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:53,120 Speaker 1: You've got the biggest bro record of the world, the 1725 01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:58,560 Speaker 1: all co tiing you spinking said that. He said it 1726 01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:01,280 Speaker 1: earlier where it's the mean where it's like Atlanta artists 1727 01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,000 Speaker 1: spot I didn't get together. I'm gonna tell you this, 1728 01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:07,080 Speaker 1: And if I'm wrong, you know, you don't figure listening 1729 01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:11,479 Speaker 1: I Land for or whatever. That's not true, bro. You 1730 01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:15,839 Speaker 1: know everybody's true city. That's that bullship. It's not that's 1731 01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:19,960 Speaker 1: really bullshit. That's really how ship from New York class. 1732 01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:23,519 Speaker 1: How we're doing. Reason why the me was made it 1733 01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:26,040 Speaker 1: is because people see don't because you But if you 1734 01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:28,280 Speaker 1: really know people like look at the niggas over there, 1735 01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:32,520 Speaker 1: it's like father Land the niggas on one song. Yility, 1736 01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:37,760 Speaker 1: opportunity and support is two different things. My brother's opportunity 1737 01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:40,160 Speaker 1: and supports to that maybe, but I can make you 1738 01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:44,960 Speaker 1: my nigga, you gotta come do my if you if 1739 01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:47,920 Speaker 1: I can make you w let then you have to 1740 01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:56,280 Speaker 1: do my remix my nigga respectfully, respecting respectfully. You know 1741 01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:59,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and that and that's got a little shot. 1742 01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:04,320 Speaker 1: That's just what I'm saying straight up. But I mean, 1743 01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:06,680 Speaker 1: you know where we're at now. You know those are 1744 01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:08,519 Speaker 1: all lessons. You know, we're talking about the past. And 1745 01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm a person to be honest with Snory. I don't 1746 01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:13,000 Speaker 1: live in the past. I don't think about the past. 1747 01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:15,040 Speaker 1: So my success on the plaques that I got in 1748 01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:17,960 Speaker 1: my crib, you know that, I don't even they're not 1749 01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:20,240 Speaker 1: even put up on the wall because I don't live 1750 01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:23,720 Speaker 1: for that. What can I do? New? You know what 1751 01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying where I'm at now, I want you to 1752 01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:28,880 Speaker 1: put them blacks up? Why the blacks up? Because you 1753 01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,160 Speaker 1: gotta know how I feel, you how dope. It feels 1754 01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:34,360 Speaker 1: like when I walk around my crib. Excuse me, I 1755 01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,760 Speaker 1: don't even have them inside my crib. I have them 1756 01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:42,640 Speaker 1: on Mike. What's that ship called the four year? You 1757 01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:48,200 Speaker 1: know this is a little like but it just makes 1758 01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:51,640 Speaker 1: me feel good because I don't know, I just like it. 1759 01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:54,639 Speaker 1: I like it. You gotta understand that you have confidence 1760 01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:57,599 Speaker 1: some ship. Sometimes you put your accomplishments to the side 1761 01:35:57,640 --> 01:36:00,360 Speaker 1: because you're always thinking about the future. But us think 1762 01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:03,800 Speaker 1: about what you did to get here. Never not never, 1763 01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,920 Speaker 1: just lever down, play it. You got to get here 1764 01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:09,400 Speaker 1: because you're like, I'm the journey so that you can 1765 01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:13,639 Speaker 1: see the future. Yeah. Yeah, the journey is super important 1766 01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:15,280 Speaker 1: to me, and and it lives in my mind and 1767 01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:17,640 Speaker 1: I know it. But like I said, I really like 1768 01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:19,600 Speaker 1: I said right now, with all these people in my 1769 01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:22,000 Speaker 1: personal opinion, like we were just all together not too 1770 01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:24,280 Speaker 1: long ago, referring to like these two chains, and you know, 1771 01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:27,240 Speaker 1: I see cheesy from time to time. Like my respect 1772 01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:30,240 Speaker 1: for these people they don't change, but how they treated me. 1773 01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:32,160 Speaker 1: I just didn't appreciate it at the time because I 1774 01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:34,880 Speaker 1: didn't understand what was going on in the game. And 1775 01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:36,760 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, what I'm saying is like, 1776 01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:39,879 Speaker 1: when you're a rookie, you're gonna make rookie rookie mistakes. 1777 01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:46,280 Speaker 1: You it was was high school freshman, it was the 1778 01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:51,599 Speaker 1: freshman in high school. You really yeah, but listen, we're 1779 01:36:51,600 --> 01:37:00,840 Speaker 1: gonna salute your careers. So that's wanted to say that. Man, 1780 01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:06,000 Speaker 1: I think I think you've understood the energy, or maybe 1781 01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:09,360 Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but hopefully I am right. I 1782 01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:12,760 Speaker 1: don't think you've mis understood the energy. And I think 1783 01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:16,240 Speaker 1: that it was exactly how you interpreted. You went back 1784 01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:19,040 Speaker 1: to high school and there were certain people, and you 1785 01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:20,600 Speaker 1: know what, he was a freshman at that time, so 1786 01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:23,080 Speaker 1: maybe he wasn't as cool as a freshman as he 1787 01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:27,800 Speaker 1: was that man. College is now you're a freshman and 1788 01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:30,479 Speaker 1: the senior is trying to prove. I think it's start 1789 01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:32,519 Speaker 1: and I think that's what it was, because I think 1790 01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:35,200 Speaker 1: your city is to ask you great city was one 1791 01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:38,519 Speaker 1: of the right first cities I came to, and it 1792 01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:42,560 Speaker 1: just it was just black excellence, like black excellences. No, 1793 01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:46,000 Speaker 1: it definitely is. Don't get a mistaken. It definitely is. 1794 01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:50,960 Speaker 1: And every no matter if you're doing music that you know, 1795 01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:53,720 Speaker 1: helps us push forward. What I told you, what's the 1796 01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:56,920 Speaker 1: top of my paramn hip hop rap? So whatever it 1797 01:37:57,040 --> 01:38:00,160 Speaker 1: takes to get us there, from the playboard card, the 1798 01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:04,120 Speaker 1: little yachties who are the mccona's, everybody is important. Even 1799 01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:07,200 Speaker 1: if you got one hit that helps us stay number one. 1800 01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:11,560 Speaker 1: And that's and That's what matters to me. So you know, 1801 01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:15,880 Speaker 1: that's why I got into writing music. Now, I write 1802 01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:19,040 Speaker 1: for people. I only I only work for I only 1803 01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:22,280 Speaker 1: work with women. Women, you know what I'm saying. Because men, 1804 01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, we have this weird ego, you know, and 1805 01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:26,920 Speaker 1: I don't live with ego. My egos at the door 1806 01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:29,000 Speaker 1: right now, at this table. My ego is at the 1807 01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:31,200 Speaker 1: door behind me because I don't have to have an 1808 01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:32,920 Speaker 1: ego in order to have a good conversation with you. 1809 01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:35,720 Speaker 1: That don't prove important to me every person that has 1810 01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:38,519 Speaker 1: ever came in contact with me. What you're gonna say 1811 01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:43,000 Speaker 1: about me, I'm always me. That might offend you when 1812 01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:47,000 Speaker 1: you're away from me, but in my face here I'm 1813 01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:49,600 Speaker 1: here to respect you. I just want to respect reciprocating, 1814 01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:52,120 Speaker 1: and we know how that works. Has grown as men, 1815 01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:54,519 Speaker 1: you know, and so like you know, all in all 1816 01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:56,559 Speaker 1: to end out, because I know we're about to close out. 1817 01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:59,920 Speaker 1: You know. I appreciate every play that I'm able to make, 1818 01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:02,920 Speaker 1: you know, and I appreciate you bring me on drink Champs. 1819 01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:08,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, appreciate you dream. I appreciate opening and 1820 01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:11,400 Speaker 1: showing us the side of you. You know, we truly 1821 01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:15,240 Speaker 1: appreciate that because it's like, don't limit yourself. I'm never 1822 01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:17,840 Speaker 1: gonna limit myself. I'm gonna always be doing something where 1823 01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:21,080 Speaker 1: it's like damn, there he go or whatever, because it's 1824 01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:24,559 Speaker 1: bigger than just doing music. I love music, because music 1825 01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:26,559 Speaker 1: is one of the most incredible things that you could 1826 01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:29,400 Speaker 1: ever get a talent there. Still, it's just a vehicle, 1827 01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:33,519 Speaker 1: it's not a house. It's likely supposed to take music 1828 01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:37,639 Speaker 1: to exactly you know. And and if it's the last 1829 01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:39,439 Speaker 1: thing I got I must say before I get out 1830 01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:42,120 Speaker 1: of here is make sure that you support black owned businesses. 1831 01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:44,519 Speaker 1: Let's talk about please. You know what I'm saying, like 1832 01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:47,519 Speaker 1: shout out was the fool you bro? So you know 1833 01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:51,479 Speaker 1: I did Caterine. Now, I brought cater into drink Champs 1834 01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:57,640 Speaker 1: because you know, I wanted the staff to going down 1835 01:39:57,680 --> 01:39:59,960 Speaker 1: the street from me. So Ray Allen owns this restaurant, 1836 01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:02,040 Speaker 1: call with him and his wife. Shout out to Shannon. 1837 01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:06,320 Speaker 1: You know it's a black own restaurant. You know, you 1838 01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:13,720 Speaker 1: know no South southware yeah area, you know. But just 1839 01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:17,560 Speaker 1: in general, support black owned businesses. That if if I 1840 01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:19,880 Speaker 1: don't all that stuff we talked about, if stuff that 1841 01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:22,240 Speaker 1: people have opinions on the opinion that matters to me 1842 01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:25,040 Speaker 1: the most is where I'm at now, you know, because 1843 01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm on my I'm back on my you know, my 1844 01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:30,519 Speaker 1: street ship. I'm back with the people or whatever supporting 1845 01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:35,960 Speaker 1: black owned businesses, you know, And I'm saying around the 1846 01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:37,880 Speaker 1: corner from my family. You know what I'm saying, Like, 1847 01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:41,040 Speaker 1: supporting black own businesses is something that I didn't realize 1848 01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:44,040 Speaker 1: that was needed from you, our own coach. You see 1849 01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:47,280 Speaker 1: it from killing Mike, But I've seen that one aspect, 1850 01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:49,920 Speaker 1: and he gave a real perspective. If you wanted to 1851 01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:52,960 Speaker 1: go your whole month, which is supporting black owned businesses, 1852 01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:55,000 Speaker 1: You're going to be in a crazy place because there's 1853 01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:56,800 Speaker 1: a lot of things that we have not got to 1854 01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:58,800 Speaker 1: that place that we need to be at yet. And 1855 01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:00,799 Speaker 1: just in general, I'm just trying to help the narrative. 1856 01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:04,040 Speaker 1: Controlling your narrative is the best thing that any person 1857 01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:07,439 Speaker 1: of color can do. Controlling your narrative at whatever, Like 1858 01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:10,720 Speaker 1: how y'all said about people controlling their negative, controlling your 1859 01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:12,720 Speaker 1: narrative is the most important thing that you can ever 1860 01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:16,040 Speaker 1: do for yourself. And so supporting a black owned business 1861 01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:18,800 Speaker 1: is the most important thing to me right, I can't 1862 01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:20,800 Speaker 1: take you know, yeah, I'm not thinking what do you 1863 01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:23,600 Speaker 1: mean he tapped? It's no, I don't tap out, trust me, 1864 01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:26,800 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking out tapping more than you know. 1865 01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm thinking. You gotta take the past. You know what 1866 01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:38,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying, But like, support black owned businesses. What's support 1867 01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:41,920 Speaker 1: black owned businesses? Black book? Support black owned businesses? Man, 1868 01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:45,599 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, four black owned businesses, more 1869 01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:48,799 Speaker 1: black owned business style? You know what I'm saying, different 1870 01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:51,720 Speaker 1: stuff or whatever, like even my bag. You know, tell 1871 01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:54,599 Speaker 1: far this person this brother one designer of the year 1872 01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:57,080 Speaker 1: last year in fashion, which is not an easy a 1873 01:41:57,200 --> 01:42:01,519 Speaker 1: war to win. You know, it's not like nothing France 1874 01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:04,519 Speaker 1: or something, you know, and the whole world designer of 1875 01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:07,720 Speaker 1: the year. This brother one that it's Telfair. You know 1876 01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:12,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, can tell Far Telfair T E. 1877 01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:15,439 Speaker 1: L F A R. One of the biggest brands. This 1878 01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:17,800 Speaker 1: is this is a New York breaking right here. Wow, 1879 01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:20,920 Speaker 1: this is the New York Burking. This is the Brooklyn Burking. 1880 01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:22,960 Speaker 1: According to who are you? Where You're from? You know 1881 01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:25,200 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, this is one of the designer 1882 01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:27,280 Speaker 1: it's a black designer break it down for us. So 1883 01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:29,680 Speaker 1: you know, just in general, I mean, I can't tell 1884 01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:31,400 Speaker 1: this man's whole life. He can tell it better than me. 1885 01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:35,840 Speaker 1: But just in general, black designers are really killing everything 1886 01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:37,920 Speaker 1: I got it. I feel super proud and everything I 1887 01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:42,479 Speaker 1: got on is from a black designers. Travis Scott did this, 1888 01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:46,160 Speaker 1: McDonald's collapse, Travis Scott boom. You know, Travis Scott did this. 1889 01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:48,479 Speaker 1: I would have This is freak off from Atlanta with 1890 01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:51,120 Speaker 1: a little oozy. This is Brownstone. This is a black 1891 01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:54,280 Speaker 1: owned brand on the pants, my shoes or whatever are 1892 01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:57,759 Speaker 1: from a black owned customizer. These are my socks or whatever. 1893 01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:00,759 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying to you, I'm a fashion 1894 01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:05,080 Speaker 1: guy where black people. I wasn't wearing black people designs 1895 01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:09,080 Speaker 1: to be able to do that now on this entirety, 1896 01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:13,400 Speaker 1: That's what I'm passionate about. You know, obviously, I'm telling 1897 01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:16,599 Speaker 1: you right now, I dropped the hardest album. But Black 1898 01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:20,360 Speaker 1: Filter is the hardest album. But for me, my energy 1899 01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:22,320 Speaker 1: is I've never put a gun to your head to 1900 01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:25,960 Speaker 1: force you to believe in my music. Why would I 1901 01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:29,559 Speaker 1: ever do that? If you are cool. Cool niggas don't 1902 01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:35,759 Speaker 1: tell people they're cool. They fly rappers don't tell niggers. 1903 01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:37,200 Speaker 1: They wrap what they do. They get on the mic 1904 01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:39,920 Speaker 1: and they wrap. So at the end of the day, 1905 01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:44,799 Speaker 1: you know, however, your opinion is, hey, rock on, because 1906 01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:46,880 Speaker 1: you know we're nine years in, we're going on ten 1907 01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:49,439 Speaker 1: for two, Like you know what I'm saying, that's gonna 1908 01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:51,599 Speaker 1: be a decade in this ship or whatever. And I'm 1909 01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:53,800 Speaker 1: still doing my thing. And if you pop into a place, 1910 01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:57,040 Speaker 1: niggas know what time it is with me, simple as that, 1911 01:43:57,360 --> 01:43:59,720 Speaker 1: no matter what it is, because all I've been doing 1912 01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:03,920 Speaker 1: my entire career is show improve Double xcel. Shout out 1913 01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:06,200 Speaker 1: to my girlfriend. That's a over that v over there. 1914 01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:08,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, show improve is the 1915 01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:11,879 Speaker 1: thing that they do on Double x cell. Show improvement 1916 01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,360 Speaker 1: is all you can you know, And everybody look at 1917 01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:17,680 Speaker 1: look at success differently. And I respect your opinion to 1918 01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:20,680 Speaker 1: a certain extent because if that's the knowledge you have, 1919 01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:23,560 Speaker 1: then that's the way you're gonna think or whatever. But 1920 01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:25,160 Speaker 1: for me, you know, right now, man, you know, I 1921 01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:29,720 Speaker 1: want people to support black owned businesses, support black owned designers. 1922 01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:31,880 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, That's what I care the 1923 01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:35,479 Speaker 1: most about. And to understand that, like in order for 1924 01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:38,760 Speaker 1: us to stay number one. We're all important. So whether 1925 01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:42,080 Speaker 1: you're a mumbo rapper or the best rapper alive, you're 1926 01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:49,000 Speaker 1: all equally important. And that's all I care about. What's 1927 01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:51,519 Speaker 1: that what you're doing? Um, Like I'm a single out 1928 01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:55,320 Speaker 1: right now with ot Genis and for him, you're shooting 1929 01:44:55,320 --> 01:45:00,880 Speaker 1: a video for that next month. I got bats go ahead. 1930 01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:03,840 Speaker 1: So then uh, I dropped my candle lins last year 1931 01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:05,479 Speaker 1: and we dropped like two hundreds. And when I went 1932 01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:07,960 Speaker 1: to Kane's France and I think the candle there we 1933 01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:10,640 Speaker 1: sold out with the production slowdown school. We come back 1934 01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:14,719 Speaker 1: out with that over the year and then um, same 1935 01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:17,920 Speaker 1: fashions and fashion stuff, um the music stuff. Because right now, 1936 01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:21,320 Speaker 1: like what he said, it's the true pandemic hustle us 1937 01:45:21,320 --> 01:45:23,960 Speaker 1: how to still hustle. If you were hustle, you gotta 1938 01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:26,920 Speaker 1: get to and you gotta figure it out. So the hustles, 1939 01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:28,680 Speaker 1: the men became men, and the boys state boys in 1940 01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:32,360 Speaker 1: the pandemic time. And that's all it's about. I went 1941 01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:36,599 Speaker 1: from doing eighty parties a month to nothing eighty parties 1942 01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:38,479 Speaker 1: about fifteen the week I was outside DJ and club 1943 01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:40,800 Speaker 1: to club, state to state. Now I'm finally getting back 1944 01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:42,280 Speaker 1: to him in Miami. I go to Atlanta, I go 1945 01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:44,600 Speaker 1: to Landom in New York, Texas, so I'm able to 1946 01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:47,280 Speaker 1: get back move. It's not the same though, Bro. They 1947 01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:48,760 Speaker 1: had me doing the strip club at eight o'clock in 1948 01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:54,400 Speaker 1: the afternoon. Bro, this is kid for niggas who don't 1949 01:45:54,439 --> 01:45:56,720 Speaker 1: know what's up, because I've seen this man rock not 1950 01:45:56,880 --> 01:45:58,760 Speaker 1: even on something like, oh, I don't booked at his club, 1951 01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:02,680 Speaker 1: like I just came two clubs and this is what 1952 01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:05,599 Speaker 1: a popping DJ look like. So for him to say 1953 01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:08,639 Speaker 1: that to you, that's how big fucking deal for niggas 1954 01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:13,080 Speaker 1: who don't get that. Oh God, God, straight up, I'm 1955 01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:14,479 Speaker 1: gonna tell you how up the game is. Bro. You 1956 01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:17,439 Speaker 1: see girls on Instagram with Birkins and all this ship, right, 1957 01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:20,800 Speaker 1: bartenders became strippist. I'm gonna just leave that. Don't there 1958 01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:25,760 Speaker 1: like that. But let's take it to the shop. You 1959 01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:31,839 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. Dogs, that's how bad TikTok TikTok. 1960 01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:35,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's what And we're just trying to you know, 1961 01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:38,280 Speaker 1: if you if you got the money, advice to anybody 1962 01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:42,320 Speaker 1: in the business. DJ's artists invest now because everything is 1963 01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:44,320 Speaker 1: lower now, So when they get back. Wooman, You're gonna 1964 01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:46,639 Speaker 1: be on top. That's all it is. You gotta stay prolonged. 1965 01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:48,320 Speaker 1: You can't live in the meantime and try to follow 1966 01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:50,360 Speaker 1: what everybody else doing. You gotta do your own things. 1967 01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:53,280 Speaker 1: Stay ahead of the game. Damn. 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