1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York, Bloomberg eleventh, Rio to Washington, 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: d C, Bloomberg to Boston, Bloomberg twelve to San Francisco, 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: Bloomberg nine to the country's JUS Exam Channel one nine 4 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: and around the globe the Bloomberg Radio Plus appen Bloomberg 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: dot com. This is taking stock, coming upon taking stock, 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: a look at the US pay television industry. We're gonna 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: talk about skinny bundles and the competitors. Will Amazon and 8 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: Dish be the winners? But right now let's go to 9 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: Charlie Pellett in the Bloomberg news room for Bloomberg Business Flag. 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, pim Fox Fox are advancing, heading 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: toward records, the DAL, the SMP, NEZ, dang all gaining. 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: Verizon shares rising on Yahoo deal speculation. Right now we 13 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: have got shares a Verizon up by one percent. Yahoo 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: shares they are Horror by one point one percent. GE 15 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: report had second quarter profit to beat analysts estimates. Those 16 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: surging sales and energy units helped the industrial giant counter 17 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: the impact of a sluggish economy. But GE shares are 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: trading lower. They're down now by one point nine percent. 19 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: GE sold fewer locomotives and less oil field equipment. This 20 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: global economic uncertainty took a toll on demand for big 21 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: ticket industrial products. Karen Ubelhardt is a senior analyst at 22 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Intelligence. Actually thought it was a good quarter. They 23 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: did beat expectations. Oil and gas was very weak, but 24 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: I actually was worried about it actually even being weaker. 25 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean the stocks had a decent run. 26 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: I think it's more about expectations than it is about 27 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: actual results. I think the results were pretty good. Honeywell 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: International cut its twenty six sales forecast amidst sluggish global 29 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: growth and lower demand for energy related products and services. 30 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: Honeywell International down two point six percent. Sketcher's USA and 31 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: VF Corps posting weaker second quarter results than analysts predicted, 32 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: assigned the shaky global economy prompted shoppers to put off 33 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: purchases of sneakers and jeans. Sketchers down twenty two point 34 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: four percent. Right now, shares A VF Corps are trading 35 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: LAWA by nine tenths of one percent. Equities higher S 36 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: and P five hun Did It Index up seven to 37 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: seventy two, a gain. There are four tenths of one 38 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: percent down, Industrial is up twenty eight, a gain of 39 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: two tenths of one percent. NAS stack of twenty five, 40 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: a gain of five tenths of one percent, Gold down 41 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: seven twenty benced, THET three A dropped. There are five 42 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: tenths of one percent, and crude oil thirty of barrel 43 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: now West Texas Intermediate Town one percent to thirty two 44 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 1: on Wall Street. Now a look at the other stories 45 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: making news. Thank you Charlie from the Bloomberg News room. 46 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm Rami in essentio. Munich. Police say there are several 47 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: people dead and wounded in an attack on a mall. 48 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: Police also say the shooter or shooters are now on 49 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: the run. This man works at a nearby gas station. 50 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: Are parios everybody are running around. Train service has been 51 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: halted after reports at the gunmen or gun men tried 52 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: to flee by train. Donald Trump met with campaign volunteers 53 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: this morning, offering praise and thanks. Trump says he'll benefit 54 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: from the Democratic Party's poor treatment of Bernie Sanders and 55 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: Bernie was tough. Bernie was stuff. We're gonna get a 56 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: lout of the Bernie voters by the woman because they 57 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: didn't treat Bernie right. They didn't treat him right. Now 58 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: that the Republican National Convention has wrapped up, it's the 59 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: Democrats turn. Here's Amy Morris from the Bloomberg Washington newsroom. 60 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Congressional reporter Eric Wawson says he is watching for 61 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: the theme of the convention, any specific policies that might 62 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: unite Democrats. We know that minimum wage is a major one. 63 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: Equal pay will also be emphasized. But if you looked 64 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: at the way the platform came to go, there was 65 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: a major fight on trade, for example. The platform remains 66 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: neutral on that, Wawson says. While Democratic senators do plan 67 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: to be in Philly on the House side, their election 68 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: contests are just too close. Many House members planning to 69 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: stay away. Amy Moore is Bloomberg Radio Washington, and the 70 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: New Jersey town made famous by the Jersey Shore reality 71 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: TV series, is ready for some quiet time on its beaches. 72 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: Seaside Heights is banning speakers, boom boxes, and any other 73 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: loud music from its beaches beginning today. It's part of 74 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: a sixty day experiment Global News twenty four hours a day, 75 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: powered by more than journalists and analysts in more than 76 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: one under twenty countries. I'm Ramie in essentio. This is Bloomberg, Charlie, 77 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: and we thank you and again recapping S and P 78 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: five Hunted Index up seven to two, a gain narrow 79 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: four tenths of one percent. I'm Charlie Pellet and that's 80 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: a Bloomberg business flash. You're listening to Stock with Kathleen 81 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. Netflix is putting pressure on traditional pay 82 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: television providers such as Comcast. At the same time, these 83 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: cable companies are fighting with satellite providers and other competitor 84 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: It is in order to attract a shrinking customer base. 85 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: Here to tell us more about trends in the US 86 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: pay television industry. Tuna Amobi, equity analyst for SMP Capital 87 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: I Q Tuna, thanks very much for being with me 88 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: tell us about these trends and the competition that is 89 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: coming from non traditional television broadcasters. Hi Pox, Hi team, 90 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: good afternoon, Thanks for having me on the show. Um So, 91 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: I guess you know. We're seeing a trend now of 92 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: consumers increasingly sobstitute in their traditional pay TV packages for 93 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: online video. Um. Some of this reflects the maturation of 94 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: the USA TV landscape. Um also the fact that cable 95 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: bills have been rising much faster than inflation, so consumers 96 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: have been increasingly looking for cheaper alternatives like Netflix, and 97 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: now we're seeing a whole new generation of skinny cable 98 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: bundle packages with Internet. So I think, um, the traditional 99 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: pay TV companies are getting a run of their money 100 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: because their customer bases declining or at least very mature, 101 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: and we're seeing um, you know, these up starts, you know, 102 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: kind of chipping away. What's what if you could define 103 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: what is the term skinny bundle or skinny package, what 104 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: does that mean? Well, it's just the term to refer 105 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: to slim down programming packages. So if you think about 106 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: the average um, you know, viewer gets you know, literally 107 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: hundreds of channels, but studies have shown that consumers will 108 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: only watched just a handful of those. So the thinking is, 109 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: why should consumers continue to pay for um, literally hundreds 110 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: or dollars of channels at the minimum that they're not 111 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: even watching. So that's why we're seeing more customized offerings, 112 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: so called skinny bundles that you know, you can basically, um, 113 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, get customized packages in some respects, including some 114 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: of the most watched you know programming channels for much 115 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: cheaper monthly subprison fees. To tell us about Amazon and 116 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: what you foresee their programming will be like in the 117 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: next couple of years. UM, Well, seen, we've seen Amazon 118 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: really you know, elevate their their game in terms of 119 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: their video offering. UH. So, not only have they rotcheted 120 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: up their original programming investments in the last several years, UM, 121 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: we're also seeing them trying to customize some of their 122 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: offerings because recently they just launched you know, a stand 123 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: alone streaming offering, so you no longer need to be 124 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: a prime subscriber to to be able to get the 125 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: Amazon you know video. This is an aim that had 126 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: to have competition with Netflix. So while they're still lagging Netflix, 127 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: Amazon in terms of the uh the the array of content. UM. 128 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: I think they really have made a significant amount of 129 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: you know effort in the last several years to at 130 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: least close from ground and we're seeing their membership um 131 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: grow significantly thanks in large parts to what they're now 132 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: offering on the video side. Tuna is Amazon worth seven 133 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: forty eight dollars a share. It's currently up a little 134 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: bit more than a half a percent today. Well, you know, 135 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: I think that's a very good question that we struggle with. 136 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: We certainly still have um, you know, by recommendation on 137 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: on Amazon. Um. You know, I think that frankly, I 138 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: think that we we see quite some offsite, albeit relatively moderate, 139 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: from current levels. UM. There's any number of ways you 140 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: can justify that valuation. Right, So there's this um Amazon 141 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: web services that you know is growing and leafs and 142 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: bounds which could be spun off down the road, we think. 143 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: And then they're also getting share um you know from 144 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: traditional retailers like wal Mart and Target, and just recently 145 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: we saw this huge success from Prime Day, which really 146 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: really said inbar in terms of what you can expect 147 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: and how you can expect Amazon to you know, customized 148 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: marketing offering. So it's all about you know, convenience and 149 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: selection and price. When you talk about Amazon, I think 150 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: they're doing a great job in that respect. To know, 151 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: why do you consider Sony Corporation s n E is 152 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: the symbol of the American Depository received Why do you 153 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: think that Sony is worth buying? Well, I have to 154 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: tell you Sony, they conglomerate. UM, I think they really 155 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: have turned around or kind of reinvented their um you know, 156 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: struggling core electronics business. So now they're you know, shifting 157 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: towards more kind of more kind of mobile and customized devices, 158 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: and they've done a pretty decent job in that. But 159 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: I think more importantly, I think Sonny is really made 160 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: some strides on the entertainment side. PlayStation View, for example, 161 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: is one of those skinny packages that have emerged over 162 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: the past year and surprisingly getting some traction they against 163 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: some of these other competitors. So I think they really 164 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: try to reinvent their their offerings. And keep in mind 165 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: when you say PlayStation View, it's not really about PlayStation 166 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: on itself. It's literally content that's made available across you know, dozens, 167 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: if not hundreds of devices, and they've been able to 168 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: really get subtraction with the content providers. Thank you very much. Tuna, 169 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: a mobi equity analyst for S and P, joining us 170 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: like giving us the details of trends in the pay 171 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: television industry in the United States. 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