1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Doug Prisner, I'm Brian Curtis. Here are 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: the stories we're following today. 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: President Biden has responded to the charges in the Special 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 2: Council's report. Ed Baxter has more from the Bloomberg News remedic. 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 3: Yeah Council Robert Hurd. Doug released a four hundred page report, 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 3: taking it from the top, that says President Biden knowingly 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 3: stored and disclosed classified information KEPTA in unsecured locations at 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 3: his home and Virginia and Delaware, but did not rise 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 3: to the bar of any kind of prosecution because he 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 3: did not try to obstruct, he did not try to 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 3: cover it up. President Biden has held a news conference, 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 3: which we carried here on Bloomberg Daybreak Asian says he 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 3: did not share classified information. 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 4: Thank you everyone. 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 5: I did not share classified information. I did not share 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 5: it with your ghost ride, with my ghost ride. I 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 5: did not guarantee you did not. 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 6: But the Council said, well. 19 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 5: No, I did not say that. 20 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: Okay, oh he did say that, mister President. 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 4: What about me? 22 00:00:59,480 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 7: Answered? 23 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 5: The fact of the matter is what I didn't want repeated. 24 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 5: I didn't want him to not and I didn't read 25 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 5: it to him. Was I had written a long memorandum 26 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 5: to President Obama why we should not be in Afghanistan. 27 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: Now, he says he wished he'd paid more attention to 28 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 3: what his staff was doing. He says that he has 29 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 3: on another subject. His mental acuity is fine, and look 30 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: at the job he has been doing, he says. In 31 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 3: the yelling of questions, he was asked whether he was 32 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 3: up to the job of president well politically. Bloomberg's Balance 33 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: of Power co host Joe Matthews says, this is going 34 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: to take some sorting out. 35 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 4: It's going to be a difficult message for him to 36 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 4: sell in this campaign when Donald Trump can make an 37 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: advertisement with a Department of Justice statements saying that this 38 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 4: is an elderly man who is forgetful and has trouble 39 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 4: remembering what he's talking about. Here, We're going to have 40 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 4: to give this a minute. There are a lot of 41 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 4: folks in Washington today who thought this was a scary, 42 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 4: major event on the campaign. There are others who think 43 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 4: that Joe Biden has been exonerated here and has a 44 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 4: good story to tell in contrasting himself to Donald Trump. 45 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 4: So this might take some time. 46 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: So as Joe very well says this may take a 47 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: minute down the road we go. Senators advanced a procedural 48 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 3: motion to begin debate on a ninety five billion dollar 49 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: package to fund aid to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan. That 50 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 3: debate well. Senator Lindsay Graham says detaching is definitely a mistake. 51 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 2: Our border is a bigger national security threat to us 52 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: in the short term than Ukraine. 53 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 4: We have not even begun to do what we could. 54 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: Do to secure the border, and Senator Dick Durbin says, 55 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: though it's time we need to do something now. We 56 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 3: had a bipartisan approach to it, the President was on board, 57 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: we were ready to pass it, and the Republicans walked 58 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 3: away from their own plan. I says GOP can't keep 59 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: backing away from responsibility because of Donald Trump's politics. Members 60 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: of the Senate and House have said they're willing to 61 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: work into and or through the weekend to get it done. 62 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: Global News twenty four hours a day, what ever you 63 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 3: want it with Bloomberg News now in San Francisco. I'm 64 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: Had Baxter and this is Bloomberg A right, guys, back. 65 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: To you, all right, thanks very much. You had six 66 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: minutes here past the hour Brian Curtis and Doug Chrisner 67 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: at Baxter. Of course, looking at news, well, let's take 68 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: a look at the top business stories of the hour. 69 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: US regulators are monitoring risks from non bank mortgage lenders. 70 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: I think companies like Quickened Loans and Rocket Mortgage Well today, 71 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: Treasury Secretary Jannet Yellen said, non bank lenders don't have 72 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: the same resources to tap when markets strain is yelling. 73 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: Speaking before the Senate Banking Committee. 74 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 8: Non bank mortgage companies lack access to the deposits which 75 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 8: banks have. Their short term their reliant on short term 76 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 8: financing that may be a lot less stable than deposits, 77 00:03:54,200 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 8: and in stressful times, their credit line can be pulled. 78 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 8: They don't have access to the kinds of liquidity backstops 79 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 8: that banks have as well, such as the Fed's discount window. 80 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: Treasury Secretary Jennet Yellen there non banks like Quicken and 81 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: Rocket have become a major presence in the mortgage market. 82 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: They rely on short term funding instruments to back their operations, 83 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: and credit lines can be pulled in times of stressed So. 84 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: Much of the conversation these days has been around the 85 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: macro and FED policy. Well, Today we learned that initial 86 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: jobless claims here in the States were down last week 87 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 2: for the first time in three weeks. The numbers support 88 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: the cautious rhetoric we have heard recently from a number 89 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: of FED members. Today it was the head of the 90 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: Richmond Fed, Tom Barkin, saying that policymakers have time to 91 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: be patient. He'd like to see a few more months 92 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: of disinflation before cutting rates. 93 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 9: I have said, you don't have to be in any 94 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 9: particular hurry. You've got a dual mandate with employment and inflation, 95 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 9: and the employment side of the mandate, I mean it's 96 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 9: actually operating at historic levels three point seven percent on employment, 97 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 9: job gains. We talked about initial claims, job openings. It's 98 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 9: a very strong labor market still, and so gratified to 99 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 9: see inflation coming down. Hoping it continues to come down, 100 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 9: and I think we've got some time to be patient. 101 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: Tom Barkin there, the head of the Richmond Fed. Now 102 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: tomorrow will be getting the government's annual revision to the 103 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: Consumer Price Index. Seasonal adjustment factors are removed from these data. 104 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 2: They're usually relatively minor and pretty much ignored by markets. However, 105 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: last year's revisions large enough to cast a lot of 106 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: doubt on the Fed's progress toward lowering inflation. 107 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: Brian Huawei says its office in France has been searched 108 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: by investigators. Bloomberg's Joan Wong has the story. 109 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 6: The France Justice Ministry says APPROBE was launched over suspicions 110 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 6: of impropriety that could mean alleged corruption, misuse of public funds, 111 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 6: or influence peddling, among other infractions. Authorities have declined to 112 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 6: provide further details. Huawei said is cooperating fully with the investigations. 113 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 6: The news comes as Huawei builds a production factory in 114 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 6: eastern France near Strasbourg, is scheduled to open at the 115 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 6: end of twenty twenty five. France has kept a company 116 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 6: out of some key parts of its wireless infrastructure that 117 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 6: has weighed on Huawei's revenue in the country. In Hong Kong, 118 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 6: Juan Wang Bloomberg Radio. 119 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: Chinese President Shijin Ping has told Russian President Vladimir Putin 120 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: in a telephone call that the two nations need to 121 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: work closely together to defend security and oppose foreign interference. 122 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: Joining US now is Rebecca Cheong Wilkins Bloomberg Asia Government 123 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: and Politics corresponded to discuss more do we know which 124 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: foreign countries the president is referring to. 125 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 7: We don't have a great deal of details specifically, but 126 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 7: I think we can make a good and educated guest. 127 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 7: We increasingly have seen sort of as Russia and China 128 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 7: have become closer, the visions of course with the US 129 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 7: and with other Western democracies have become somewhat more pronounced, 130 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 7: and we have had more broadly, I would say, in 131 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 7: China the Ministry of Security has been much more vocal about, 132 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 7: for example, surveillance and sort of those kinds of national 133 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 7: security threats that it faces from other nations and spies 134 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 7: from other countries. 135 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 2: So kind of a multi polar, fairer world order, right. 136 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 7: Absolutely, yes, this is certainly a sort of more defensive taker, 137 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 7: I would say, of that idea of a multipolar world 138 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 7: one that is implied here implicitly here does pit them 139 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 7: against you know, other forces that are challenging both China 140 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 7: and Russia. 141 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: I mentioned in the context of a couple of other 142 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: issues that have been making news. For instance, Lionel Messi 143 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: is one, and also difficulties with management of the country's 144 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: brokerages and handling of securities in China, that there's a 145 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: tendency here of late, in particular to blame foreigners or 146 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: to blame others rather than policymakers for the issues. Your 147 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: thoughts on that. 148 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 10: Yeah, I do think that's right. 149 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 7: Sometimes when we see these sort of somewhat embarrassing affairs, 150 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 7: you know, embarrassing events, messy being a sort of particularly 151 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 7: obvious one here and something of a known goal, one 152 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 7: could argue, so much attention has been drawn to this 153 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 7: now there is a sort of a tendency and a 154 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 7: desire to blame outside forces, and in Hong Kong we 155 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 7: often hear this phrase of the black hand of interference, 156 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 7: essentially inferring that the US and other countries have caused 157 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 7: strife and somewhat in China too, I do think with 158 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 7: the stock route though, although there has been some sort 159 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 7: of criticism directed outside, there is also attention focus more domestically. 160 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 7: If we think back to twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen, 161 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 7: it was this big push to try and clean up 162 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 7: wrongdoing and those who engaged in criminality and illegal types 163 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 7: of short selling and so on, and we are starting 164 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 7: to see a little bit of that too, So I 165 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 7: think there will be a call when it comes to 166 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 7: that case, in particular for some accountability at home as well. 167 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 2: We were talking back in twenty twenty two during the 168 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: China Winter Olympics, she agreeing to a no limits friendship 169 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: with Vladimir Putin. Are the two aligned now? Is they 170 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: look to expand their global influence? Do they have the 171 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: same goals or is there a bit of competition here 172 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: that would be kind of worth watching. 173 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 7: Well, this has always somewhat been a marriage of convenience, 174 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 7: but the relationship has entailed risks for both of them. 175 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 7: And though while we have seen China stepping in to 176 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 7: sort of make up that shortfall that the financial pain 177 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 7: inflicted by sanctions. So you know, China is the main 178 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 7: buyer of discounted Russian energy for example. It's also some 179 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 7: big supplier of sort of cars, lots of white goods, mobiles. 180 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 10: Things like that. 181 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 7: There are certainly tensions in the relationship and it hasn't 182 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 7: been the cases. 183 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 10: You know, some have said. 184 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 7: That Putin is simply sort of a puppet, or it 185 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 7: is simply just you know, she is able to exert 186 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 7: a great deal of influence over him, and even in 187 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 7: terms of sort of some of the energy deals. 188 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 10: They flick at this briefly in. 189 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 7: The call, that there's this desire for both of them 190 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 7: to work on energy deals. But when you look at 191 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 7: the specific big examples, think about the proposed natural gas 192 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 7: pipeline power of Siberia too, for example, Beijing has sort 193 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 7: of appeared to hold out for a more favorable deal 194 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 7: from Moscow there. So it's really sort of, I guess, 195 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 7: an oversimplification to say that even since that no limits relationship, 196 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 7: we've seen sort of all smooth sailing. I think what 197 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 7: we have seen, in fact, is that the relationship does 198 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 7: have plenty of limits. 199 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: When President She went to Moscow last year year, President 200 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: Putin told him that Russia was ready to discuss China's 201 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: proposal and the war in Ukraine. Has there been any 202 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: traction on that? 203 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, we haven't seen a great deal on that, and 204 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 7: particularly even that the proposal itself from China hasn't been 205 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 7: particularly at the four of discussions. It was interesting to 206 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 7: me that they didn't appear, at least according to the 207 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 7: state broadcast CCTV. He reported on this phone call, they 208 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 7: didn't seem to be a great deal about much. 209 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 10: Sort of much made of. 210 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: That right now. I mean, we've talked to every day 211 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 2: about the challenges facing the Chinese economy. Is president She's 212 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 2: focused squarely on trying to get China to recover, and 213 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: maybe the relationship with Russia, although it's important, kind of 214 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 2: is going to take very much of a backseat. That 215 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: domestic policy is front and center for him right now. 216 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 10: I think that is the case. 217 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 7: Yes, domestic policy certainly is very very pressing right now 218 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 7: because of the economic challenges excuse me sorry, but also 219 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 7: because the urgency with which the. 220 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 10: Stock market route is presenting problems. 221 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 7: I mean, we've also sort of coming up to the 222 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 7: lunar New Year holidays where we see this pause in 223 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 7: trading for six days. So it has been we have 224 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 7: been sort of in the last week or so during 225 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 7: this essential period where policymakers have this fixed window of 226 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 7: time to try and stop the stock route. The swift 227 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 7: removal of the head of the CSRC that came much 228 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 7: much faster than we saw the equivalent move back in 229 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 7: twenty sixteen, by the way, So I think we are 230 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 7: seeing these sort of indicators that for policymakers and for 231 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 7: She presumably himself, this is a really sort of a 232 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 7: top issue. I recall back in twenty fifteen as well, 233 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 7: there was a meeting where she himself had scribbled on 234 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 7: the note of other report going to some of the 235 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 7: regulators that to make sure that they looked after these 236 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 7: small and mid level investors. 237 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 10: And I think that focus on protecting. 238 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 7: MUMU and pub investors' retail investors again going to be 239 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 7: a top priority. 240 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: Fishie, Rebecca, you mentioned black hands here in Hong Kong 241 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: comes up all the time, fearing the interference of foreign countries. 242 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: We had the Hong Kong Immigration Authorities yesterday introducing a 243 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: new national security risk test for visa applicants. Now, this 244 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: is to prevent people who are deemed a risk from 245 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: being able to enter Hong Kong. This is not something 246 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: that we've seen a lot of in the past. There 247 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: have been people in the past that were on a 248 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: blacklist that were denied entry, but this seems to be 249 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: expanding in this area. I'm also curious on whether or 250 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: not you think that this will extend to lawyers and 251 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: to academics and two journalists. 252 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 10: Yes, this is interesting. 253 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 7: I mean the government has said, you know, and in 254 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 7: light of sort of oars called twenty three, it's security 255 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 7: a national security legislation too, that it's very much business 256 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 7: as usual in the city. That's the image that they 257 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 7: want to project. But of course, at the same time, 258 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 7: this news legislation and this new nationaltecurity test is immigration 259 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 7: and test. 260 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,479 Speaker 10: Sort of does suggest otherwise. 261 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 7: It is certainly an you know, a significant development, I 262 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 7: would say, but we already have seen visa denials for 263 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 7: people such as academics and. 264 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 10: Journalists as well as lawyers. 265 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 7: So we are already seeing all three of those sort 266 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 7: of industries somewhat being targeted by visa denials. 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