1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Thirty five yards GoF deep again wide open, making the 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: grab and taking it and. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 2: Is shak Brown second in goal. 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Id's gonna keep it himself touchdown Green Bay. 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 2: Here it is again. You heard that talking about it. 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: Here's the foul on Walker, but you talk about a 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: late flag. 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: Thirty four to twenty. The Lions owned the NFC North 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: Detroit takes care of business in Lambeau, their fourth straight 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: win against Attackers, the second straight time they put a 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: herd on him on national television. These are new times 12 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: and you can tell that a Packers fan, big Funk 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: Randy Javez put that highlight package together because he included 14 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: a Packers' penalty to finish it. That led to the 15 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: game ceiling touchdown by David Montgomery, his third of the night. 16 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal talking TNF with a new friend of 17 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 1: the pod. Very excited to welcome JP Acosta to the show. 18 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: He does great workover at sp Nation. 19 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: Jp. 20 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: We got a pretty gun one for you for your 21 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: first time on the Round the NFL Podcast. 22 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: Welcome, thanks for having me. This is a fun one 23 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 3: because this is right up my alley. This is this 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 3: is a Lions offensive line run run the rock, established 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 3: that defensive lines playing great. This is right up my alley. 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: Wow, what you're at, You're like, you're at dight, Dan Campbell, 27 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: tough guy. I want to run the ball. How many 28 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: times did he do it tonight? Forty three times? And 29 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: just dominate the line of scrimmage. That's your game. 30 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. Football is one and lost on 31 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage, and Dan Campbell made sure to 32 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: put an emphasis on that going into his game. 33 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. 34 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: Although I'm gonna start on the defensive side, and they 35 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: won it up front there too. We can go in 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: a lot of directions here, and we will. We're gonna 37 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: go over this game. It was a lot of fun 38 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: if you're like me and have been loving this Lion's 39 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: rise over the last two seasons. But I think we 40 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: got to start with the first twenty two plays that 41 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: the Packers ran on offense, which got us almost a halftime. 42 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: Those twenty two plays, JP gained one get into negative yard. 43 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: They did not gain a yard in their first twenty 44 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: two plays. At that point in the game, it was 45 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: twenty seven to three. The game was all but over. 46 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: The Packers did what they've been doing the last couple 47 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: weeks made a little interesting in the second half, But 48 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: tell me from your advantage point what you saw what 49 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: they did in that first half defensively, that just made 50 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: the Packers look like they didn't even belong on the 51 00:02:58,919 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: field with Detroit. 52 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: It was so interesting just for a Packers offensive line 53 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: that did not allow a lot of pressure through the 54 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 3: first few games this season just looked completely overwhelmed against 55 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 3: a Detroit Lions front that we remember a couple of 56 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 3: weeks ago did not look that great against the Seattle Seahawks, 57 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: Like this is a this is the second week out 58 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: of two weeks set. The Lions have looked really good 59 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 3: up front, and I think it kind of has to 60 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: do with the development and the growth of the young 61 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: guys they have on that side of the ball. We 62 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: all know about Aiden Hutchinson, the way that he's playing 63 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: to start the season. One of the things I've enjoyed 64 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: that they're doing is moving him inside. You just be 65 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: basically match up hunt find the best way to get 66 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: your guys isowed on their weakest links, and that's something 67 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: that the Lions are doing right now. Ali McNeil is 68 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: playing fantastic football to start the season at defensive tackle. 69 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: But it's not even those guys. You're getting good play 70 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: from Benito Jones, Isaiah Bugs doing really good things in 71 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: the run game. So basically you've taken the Packers entire 72 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: outside zone boot action. You negated that because they cannot 73 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: run the ball. So you're forcing Jordan Love to essentially 74 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: become a primary drop back passer, forcing him to make 75 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: the throws. And then on the back end, you know, 76 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,679 Speaker 3: those guys are playing really well. I think that Jordan 77 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 3: Love sailed a few passes early. It's still very clear 78 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: that he still needs time to actually like play the games, 79 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 3: to get more, get his feet wet a little more. 80 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: But it's really just the domination up front. It's been 81 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: a long time since I've seen the Packers look so 82 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 3: overwhelmed up front, especially by a Detroit Lions football team. 83 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more because you're right, even in this 84 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: four game windustry, it's the Packers offensive line has mostly 85 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: been a mainstay. Tonight, they were without back to Ari again. 86 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: He was placed on injured reserve actually since we last 87 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: taped a podcast, so that means he's he's kinda miss 88 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: at least a few more games. That's a big, big 89 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: letdown for them and raises a whole lot of questions 90 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: about his contract and all this other stuff we don't 91 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: need to get into. They're also without el Elton Jenkins 92 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: and you mentioned it, and this is why I wanted 93 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: you on JP goes deep, check out it, check them 94 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: out on X on Twitter, and he's breaking down a 95 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: Lee McNeil earlier this week, who is coming off a 96 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: big time game and he's just thrown out Bugs and 97 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: I'll throw out you know, Kaminsky had a nice stop 98 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: on that two point conversion and they're winning their on 99 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: one match with Charles Harris had to play. I mean 100 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: they Isaiah Bugs wasn't even active a couple of weeks ago. 101 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: So that's the depth that I think Campbell and Brad 102 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: Holmes when they're putting this team together, really wanted. And 103 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: what's impressed me in this three and one start, and 104 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: I do want to stay on the defense for now, 105 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: is they've had injuries. They've had injuries on both sides, 106 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: but they've especially had injuries on defense, and they've kind 107 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: of built a roster that can withstand it. And they 108 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: had one bad week really against Seattle where they got 109 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: it handed to them for the most part defensively, but 110 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: other than that, man, this is this is a different defense. 111 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: Those guys are tough upfront. They're gonna make it very 112 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: tough to run the ball. And they barely even tried 113 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: with with Aaron Jones and aj Dillon and by the 114 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: time they tried, the game was essentially over. And they've 115 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: been able to withstand injuries on the back end. And 116 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: that's impressive. That that's team building and that's depth because 117 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: they don't really have superstars. 118 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: They just have good players. 119 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: Like Derek Barnes has been flashing to me all season 120 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: like he's not a guy I ever really paid that 121 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: much attention to, but he's been a great run stopper. 122 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: And just say each spot, it's like they have guys 123 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: that make sense exactly. 124 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 3: It's more they're more they're not individual stars like you said, 125 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: but they're much more than the some they're they're basically 126 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 3: they work as a team. You know, I think the 127 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 3: team defense up front has been so played so well. 128 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: I know it's against Atlanta. The Atlanta game was really 129 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 3: a huge test for them going into this game because 130 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: both these teams want to run the ball, they want 131 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 3: to be physical, with you up front, and the Lions 132 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: basically just lined up and kick their butts the entire game. 133 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: It was it was wild to see this team just 134 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 3: essentially go in and be like, Yeah, we're just gonna 135 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: We're gonna line up and you're not gonna be able 136 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: to block us. And like you said, Derek Barnes playing 137 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: great football. I think Jack Campbell has had really nice 138 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: moments in the run and pass game. They lined them 139 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: up on the edge on early downs because you know, 140 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: with James Houston out for a long time with an 141 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: ankle injury, they lined Jack Campbell up down on the 142 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: edge on early downs, so I thought was kind of interesting. 143 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: They did it a little bit last week. I think 144 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: it's kind of due to their lack of depth out 145 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: on the edge, but I was like, okay, I'll put 146 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: a little pin in that. You know. Maybe maybe I 147 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: mean Jack Campbell's like six five, two forty, maybe this 148 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 3: will be a thing that they just keep doing. But 149 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: they're working with the pieces that they have and they're 150 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: turning it into a machine. Though. Front. 151 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: It's like what you want out of team building because 152 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: they stuck with Aaron Glenn, who's always thought to be 153 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: a really promising defensive coordinator, a guy they really believed 154 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: in in the results because of the roster and because 155 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: they were putting it together. Weren't really there the first 156 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: couple of years, and you're seeing it to come together. 157 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: So I love when that happens. 158 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: This is year three of their program and they've pretty 159 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: much done it, and yeah, it's funny. Actually, remember when 160 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: they call I remember the call where they call Campbell 161 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: when he was drafted. They actually ask him like if 162 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: he would ever want to line up as you know, 163 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: you want to line up on the edge a little bit. 164 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: You think you can do that, And he said, I'll 165 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: do whatever. 166 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: So they're putting into motion, they get creative, and I 167 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: guess let's slip it to the Packers offense. 168 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: Love. 169 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: His experience, to me, is a little bit like the 170 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: Packers in general this season, Like they are Jordan Love. 171 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 2: They're like all or nothing. 172 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: They're like either falling down seventeen nothing against the Saints 173 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: or they're coming back in this game. You know, they 174 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: were pretty good in the third course this game. They 175 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: made it interesting. There was a moment there where they 176 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: had a two point conversion that would have cut it 177 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: to one score. So so that they got back into 178 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: it against the Falcons. The Packers h were way ahead 179 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: and then they blew that lead in the fourth quarter. 180 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: And that's that's Jordan Love to be right now. 181 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: Everything is either like a big time throw and you're 182 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: just like, wow, that that is impressive, And when he runs, 183 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: I think, wow, he's a better runner than I expected. 184 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: But the other stuff is just like the throws are 185 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: either way off or it's you saw tonight when he's 186 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: really faced a good front for the first time under pressure. 187 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: It was just taking a little too long for the 188 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: Gears to grind and and just taking some bad sacks. 189 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 3: It was. It was an up and down performance for 190 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 3: Jordan Love. I think there was some stuff they kind 191 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: of did pretty well. I think in the second half 192 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 3: they started to put together some drives. He started to 193 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: play a little better under pressure. But I think an 194 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: even larger issue than Jordan Love is kind of just 195 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: I hate to say the offense in general, but you 196 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 3: know at halftime AJ Dillon was third on the team 197 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 3: and routes run like that's an issue for this team 198 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 3: going forward. You cant have AJ Dillon out there running 199 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: all these routes. Aaron Aaron Jones usage has been weird 200 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 3: for the entire season. I know he's been injured, but 201 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 3: seven snaps, five routes run at halftime in one target, 202 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 3: that's not gonna get it done. For the best offensive 203 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 3: player on your team, you have to find a way 204 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 3: to consistently get him involved. I know that the run 205 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: game wasn't working as much because the offensive line wasn't 206 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: as good, but you have to find a way to 207 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 3: get him involved. You have to find a way to 208 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 3: make it a little easier for this young quarterback. 209 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I'll give laflaur the benefit of the doubt 210 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: or with usage, because yeah, Jones was a little in 211 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: and out in that first week too, and then he 212 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: missed a couple week and maybe they were just easing 213 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: him back into the lineup tonight. Christian Watson also returned, 214 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: which was a good sign. Didn't get a chance to 215 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: make many catches. Four targets, two catches twenty five yards. 216 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: He did have a touchdown on a good play call 217 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: right at the goal line where he was wide open, 218 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: and had one other play. I tried to keep an 219 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: eye on him because I'm watching Do you watch the 220 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: Prime Vision? 221 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know you do. You're a dork. I 222 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: love it. 223 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: I mean I love it like I wish I wish 224 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: I had that option for every game, but I especially 225 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: like it on these Thursday nights, just as a changeup 226 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: so you can watch the route. Sometimes you lose track 227 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: of what's going on upfront. But I was trying to 228 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: watch Watson and to me, he looked good. And it's 229 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: just crazy, though you're counting on this guy from where 230 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: was it North Dakota State that he's like your true 231 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: one with the most experienced he's like a second second 232 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: year player. I think Dobbs has looked good this year, 233 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: and Jaydeen Reid made it a couple of plays. But 234 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: I just think this team is going to be better 235 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: in December offensively than they are right now. 236 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's going to take a lot of time, 237 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 3: especially if Botiari is indeed done for the season, because 238 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 3: that's a massive piece that you were hoping. Like the 239 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: optimism for the Packers going into the season was Okay, 240 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: everybody on the offensive line is going to be healthy, 241 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: and now four games into the season, Jenkins has hurt 242 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 3: Baktyaris on ir and so those are two immediately out 243 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: the window. 244 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: So you just have you heard anything on Baktyari or something? 245 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 2: Is there? 246 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: Is there a is there talk that he might be 247 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: out for more because this this news happened today and 248 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: I was surprised to see it. 249 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: So I saw he was on IR. I saw they 250 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 3: had he went under arthroscopic knee surgery, which I mean, 251 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 3: if you want to hold him out for four games 252 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: after knee surgery, like, I don't know if he's coming back, 253 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 3: I really don't. It's the whole Baktyari thing has been 254 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 3: very weird. I think he's been adamant about not playing 255 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 3: on turf, which yeah, I understand not wanting to play 256 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 3: on turf, but he's also the fourth highest paid offensive 257 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 3: tackle in the NFL, so you need we got to 258 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 3: actually have him playing games. And he's played one of 259 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 3: the first four games of the season. That's not a 260 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: great number. So it's just it's just been a very weird, 261 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 3: weird time for David Botiari posts like twenty. 262 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: Twenty, Okay, I am looking and I see I missed 263 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: this rap sheet. Our guy at in NFL Networking, Rapports, 264 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: said the latest surgery is probably a precursor for a 265 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: bigger surgery later and there's all sorts of cap implications, 266 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to eat a dead cap it 267 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: if he's not on their roster next year. 268 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 2: No matter what. It's unfortunate. 269 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: You hate to see a guy who was on a 270 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame trajectory and actually will still even have 271 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: a case for it, really have his career cut short. 272 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: But for this year, man, that's gonna hurt the Packers, 273 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: who until this. 274 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 2: Week hadn't really played a good pass rush. 275 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: And that's why those those numbers, including Jordan's love numbers, 276 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: I was was kind of looking a little side eye 277 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: just because they hadn't played a team. They played the 278 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: Saints last week, but I don't think of the Saints 279 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: as elite pass rush. I think of them as a defense. 280 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: But this week you saw it kind of come home 281 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: to Russ. Let's slip it to the other side. Let's 282 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: talk about some Ben Johnson. Give me your Ben Johnson take, 283 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: because I thought, like most games, he had just a 284 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: couple of. 285 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: Plays in this game. 286 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: I love the overall philosophy, but a couple of individual 287 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: plays in this game where it's just like he won 288 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: and he got his team points. 289 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: One of my favorite play calls that they had is 290 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: the Khalif Raymond reverse where Jared Goff ends up getting 291 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: steamrolled by this edge rusher. I think it's Kingsley ingenbarre, 292 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: but it ends up going for thirty yards because everybody 293 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 3: else on the other side of the field near Piney 294 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: Sewell leading out in front of you. That's what Johnson 295 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: can do. They have their bread and butter up front 296 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: with the offensive line. That's going to raise the floor 297 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 3: of this offense. I say it a lot about the 298 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: Eagles offensive line, but the Lions are right there as well. 299 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 3: That is a game changing positional group. They can slow 300 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 3: a game down if they want. They can completely flip 301 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: the momentum of a game if they choose to, and 302 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 3: they did it tonight. I think the Pack have been 303 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 3: really bad defending the run out of their base personnel 304 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 3: this year, and the Lions was like, yeah, we're just 305 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 3: gonna get big and you're not gonna be able to 306 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 3: stop us. They dominated in the run game. It was 307 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: great to see Jonah Jackson play as well as he did. 308 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: Taylor Decker on one leg still looked really well, and 309 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: Pinay Sewell. I feel like every time they need a 310 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: big run or they need a big play, you're run 311 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: behind fifty eight and it works most of the time. 312 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 3: But you still see what Ben Johnson can do in 313 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 3: terms of coaxing a little more aggression out of Jared Goff. 314 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 3: He gets them to kind of play a little bit 315 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: outside of his shell. It was a lot of quick 316 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 3: passing still, but you could see the gears kind of 317 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 3: turning for Jared goffeel like, Okay, I can hit this 318 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: throw down field if I want it. He's all I 319 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 3: said on Twitter. He's like the king of the twelve 320 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 3: yard dig and that's what they've built the offense around. 321 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: They know that that's his comfort, that's his bread and butter. 322 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 3: Build it around him. 323 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to get to what you said on 324 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: Johnson and second, but while we're on golf, Look, you 325 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: had a bad interception early, quickly bounced back, had some 326 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: really nice accurate throws. One of those digs I think 327 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: it was to Laporte, a nice touch pass down the 328 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: sideline to Reynolds where Reynolds made a couple of just 329 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: fantastic catches in this game. They're just getting contributions out 330 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: of everyone. But the one thing I've noticed, and I 331 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: know Jared Goff has worked on this and it's only 332 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: gonna work so much. But you are getting like one 333 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: pretty good second reaction play a week from Jared Goff, 334 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: and it's like, Okay, I see that, Jared Goff because 335 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: I didn't even get you weren't even getting that one, 336 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: I don't think in Los Angeles, and he's worked on it. 337 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: Where in one of them, I'm trying to think which 338 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: play was it the play to a play where he's 339 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: rolling to Reynolds where he got It's like, you're getting 340 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: kind of one, like the play breaks down and Jared 341 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: Goff makes a play a week and that I'll take it. 342 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: I'll take it. 343 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 3: Yeah it was. It was a rollout where he's getting pressured, 344 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 3: rolls to his left, flips back and he throws laporta 345 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 3: and I was like. 346 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: That and he was accurate, and yeah, once in a 347 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: while you'll see you'll see him check it down a 348 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: little earlier than you would maybe want. But that is 349 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: a small price to pay for the way he's playing overall, 350 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: and they're not asking him to do much. 351 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 2: You mentioned it. 352 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: I love the way you put that that they can 353 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: slow the game down. And then yeah, I watched that 354 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: Seahawks Lions game and they can speed it up to 355 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: when when they need to, and that, man, that's a 356 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: dangerous thing to be as an offense that you can 357 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: play any type of way, depending on what type of 358 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: game it is, what situation you're in. And I was 359 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: surprised someone tweeted out I think it was Pat Dlarready 360 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: at the end of the game. They came into this 361 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: game thirtieth and expected pass rate like in neutral situations, 362 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: which means they are among the most run heavy teams 363 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: in the league, which is surprising to me. That's not 364 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: their profile, and that that's going up because they just 365 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: ran the ball forty three times. I mean, I'd like 366 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: to split up the carries a little more evenly, just 367 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: because thirty two carries for David Montgomery coming off a 368 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: couple of weeks injured, like that's not good for his 369 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: long term health. And Jamir gum Gibbs was running well, 370 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: so I'd like to even that out. But I can't 371 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: fault them. It was working that they were moving the 372 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: ball in Montgomery was running well. 373 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the thirty two carries for David Montgomery 374 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 3: might stun a lot of people and disappoint a lot 375 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 3: of Jamir Gibbs fantasy owners. But it makes a lot 376 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 3: of sense for this game. For this game, Detroit knew 377 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 3: that they were going to be the more physical team 378 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 3: up front. 379 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 2: I hear you. 380 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: But when they're up by seventeen late, just give the 381 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: last five to Gibbs. 382 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: You're asking for an injury there, But I hear you. Continue. 383 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it felt like late in the game they were 384 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 3: kind of getting Montgomery like, hey, we'll throw you a 385 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 3: little bit of a bone in here, we'll get you 386 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,719 Speaker 3: over one hundred. But David Montgomery right now is the 387 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 3: more physical runner between the tackles. That's where you know 388 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 3: you can beat this Packers team. This Packers team for 389 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 3: having seven eight however many first round picks they have 390 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 3: on defense, the spine of that defense is really bad 391 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 3: up the middle. And it stunned me because you have 392 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 3: guys like Kenny Clark, who is a very very good player. 393 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: You have Lucas van Nessa's played made a lot of 394 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 3: really nice moments in the run and pass game. Rashan 395 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: Gary still looks awesome, but. 396 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 2: He looked good tonight. He's look good all year. 397 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: This looks fantastic, But for some reason, this team is 398 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 3: always bad against the run, and it goes back to 399 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta look at coaching at that point. 400 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 3: But the Lions know so well, like their bread and 401 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 3: butter is built up front, and they can run every 402 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 3: concept in the book. They mixed in outside zone with 403 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 3: counter power. They do everything. They throw the oral kitchen 404 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 3: sink at you because the offensive line can do everything. 405 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: This is like just the Lions dream. 406 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: Like last year on this podcast, we made them the 407 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: team of the Around the NFL Podcast, and I said 408 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: right afterwards, like right after it ended, it ended on 409 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: such a high, big funk. 410 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: I know you got the the sting back there that 411 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 2: like I wanted to run it back. Let's just go. 412 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: Let's just go a second time around, make them the 413 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: team of the Around the NFL Podcast a second year. 414 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: So we've never done that before, we might have to 415 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 2: do it again. 416 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: And even if we don't, I don't care. I'm going 417 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: to en enjoy the journey. It's fun and you're seeing 418 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: like really smart, smart guys who build a team in 419 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: a certain way but also coach the team in a 420 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: certain way, and and guys out there just playing with 421 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: all sorts of energy and yeah, Ben Jonson like that 422 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: that early touchdown to Ammon Ross Saint Brown. 423 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 2: They knew that what was coming. 424 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: They knew they were gonna burn Razulo Douglas on that play, 425 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: and they did it, and that is awesome to see. 426 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: One thing that was a little concerning. Brian Branch left 427 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: this game. Had an ankle injury that look quite serious. 428 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: He was carted off, he taped it up, returned to 429 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: the game, but then left again at the end. 430 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 2: So hopefully he's okay. 431 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: But otherwise, Luke Musgrave had a concussion in this game 432 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: for the Packers. I hated to see that. Sam Laporta 433 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: winning that kind of rookie tight end battle. Another nice 434 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: game for him, fifty six yards. To talk to me 435 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: on Laporta before we get out of here, because man, 436 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 1: I was I've been, I was honking. I have a 437 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: text thread with Danny Kelly over at the Ringer that 438 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: is just about Sam Laporta, because I was so big 439 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: on Sam Laporta, and like at this point I'm texting 440 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: saying like I'm going to be texting you when he's 441 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: making his speech in Canton. That's the trajectory he's on 442 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: right now. 443 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 3: With the way that Sam Laporta has played for the 444 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 3: first four weeks. I have never ever, ever been more 445 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: convinced that Brian Farrens and the Iowa offense is offence 446 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: literally an a fence to everything in football. Now you're 447 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 3: not able to get that guy more involved or get 448 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 3: that guy more targets. Is wild to me what the 449 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 3: Mayas have done, and it's so cool just I think 450 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 3: before the game, Next Gen Stats tweeted out that most 451 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 3: of Sam Laporter's production has come on in breaking routes. 452 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 3: They know where his bread and butter is made. After 453 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: the catch, get the ball in his hands and let 454 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: them run. And that's really what they're letting them do. 455 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 3: You know, they've basically created another underneath intermediate area target 456 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 3: for Jared Goff, but this time you've given him a 457 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 3: bigger body, someone who can move after the catch. The 458 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 3: play that Golf threw to him over the middle, I 459 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 3: think the Packers were a man coverage. He beats linebacker, 460 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 3: catches the ball, then breaks the linebacker's tackle, runs for 461 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 3: another twenty yards. That's what Sam Laporter can do, and 462 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 3: that's what he's shown that he's been able to do. 463 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 3: It provides not only a safety blanket for Jared Goff, underneath, 464 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 3: but another level of explosiveness that I really thought the 465 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 3: Lions wouldn't be able to have with Jamison Williams out 466 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 3: for the first six game this season, But it just 467 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 3: so happens that they have a two hundred and fifty 468 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 3: pounds tight end who can also provide some of that. 469 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: Oh they needed it too, because you just look to 470 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, Reynolds is doing a nice job and Khalif 471 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: Raman will pop up for a player two, but it 472 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: felt like they needed someone else to throw to, and 473 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: Laporta has just stepped right into that role. And I 474 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: know Gibbs fantasy owners are frustrated, but I think his 475 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: days will come, and the way they're using it, it's 476 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: hard to really fault him. And even tonight he picked 477 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: up two key third downs, one as a receiver, one 478 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: as a runner where he's running through that first tackle 479 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: too most of the time. So I like his day 480 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: will come. I'm not worried about him and where they 481 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: took him there. They're loving life. I'm loving having you 482 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: on JP. We gotta do this again. You're the man 483 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: staying up late in Orlando? What's the Orlando NFL seee? 484 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: Like? Like, who do people even root for in Orlando. 485 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 3: So it's a real it's a very peatri dish thing, 486 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: you know, I see, I see a lot of Buccaneers fans. 487 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 3: Tampa is like an hour hour and a half away, 488 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 3: so there's a lot of Buccaneers fans. Not a lot 489 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 3: of Jacksonville fans considering, but it's very heavy Tampa. Every 490 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 3: every Tampa game is broadcast locally, and then they also 491 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 3: get the Jaguars games. But they're very much Tampa fans. 492 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 3: And you know, with UCF being here, it's a whole 493 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 3: lot of a whole lot of nights and Buccaneers, which 494 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 3: does not bode well for my FAU fandom and the 495 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguars. 496 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: Oh that's right, you are, mister f A. 497 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be a little bit of a comdown, 498 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: I would think after the year you've had. 499 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 3: It's been a little bit of a comdown. You know. 500 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 3: You ride the high the Final four and next thing 501 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 3: you know, Clemson is blasting your favorite team on the 502 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: ACC network. It's it's a little rough. 503 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: But again, check out JP. He's doing great stuff at 504 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 2: eSPI Nation. 505 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: You can check them out on Twitter at Acosta thirty 506 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: two Underscore JP, appreciate you, appreciate the analysis, and appreciate 507 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: you breaking records. You gotta, you gotta be the youngest 508 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: person on the show that we've ever had because you 509 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: just graduated like two years ago. 510 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. 511 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: Like I said, thanks again to JP. That is it 512 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: for us tonight. 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