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Speaker 1: We are excited to continue this cultural movement that we

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Speaker 1: have started at Turning Point USA. More high school chapters,

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Speaker 1: more college chapters, and disagreement is not just welcome, it

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Speaker 1: is invited. We want to have those tough conversations. That's

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Speaker 1: what it's all about. Every day the American people demand

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Speaker 1: certain accomplishments and victories. Disagreement is what keeps a movement alive,

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Speaker 1: keeps a movement fun. Here in this country, we are

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Speaker 1: a country of flourishing. We're a country of risk taking.

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Speaker 1: We're a country of building. We will achieve American greatness

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Speaker 1: and we are just getting started.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and John, welcome board today's edition Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 3: We are live in Washington, d C. Today is September eleventh,

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: Anno Dominie.

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Speaker 3: And even though this is Human Events Daily, this is

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Speaker 3: actually functioning as the third hour of the Charlie.

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Speaker 4: Kirk Memorial Show, which we've been holding the short holding

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Speaker 3: Down for Charlie while he's on assignment with God and

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Speaker 3: we have this incredible live shot. I want to I

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Speaker 3: want to pull up right here for you, right now

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Speaker 3: outside of TPUSA headquarters where one of these these makeshift

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Speaker 3: organic spontaneous vigils has been directed for Charlie, right outside

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Speaker 3: the headquarters there where well wishers, people are coming to pray,

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Speaker 3: what does our Lord say, He says, come with me,

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Speaker 3: that's exactly what he did with Charlie. Lord made Charlie

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Speaker 3: a fisher of men. And now he has another task

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Speaker 3: for him. We can't understand it, and we won't understand it.

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Speaker 3: You don't get answers this side of perdition, because that's

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Speaker 3: not how it works.

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Speaker 4: But what I do know.

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Speaker 3: Is that God sent Charlie Kirk to America when America

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Speaker 3: fight for our Lord, to stand in the breach. And

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Speaker 3: if Charlie was willing to do that, then we need

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Speaker 3: to be willing to do that for him and to

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Speaker 3: continue his work and continue his mission and carry the

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Speaker 3: torch to honor the legacy. Turning Point USA was never

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Speaker 3: about Charlie Kirk. Turning Point action was never about Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 3: He was the brains behind the energy to drive, but

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Speaker 3: it was never about himself.

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Speaker 3: It was about the people, it was about students, It

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Speaker 3: was about ideas. It was about values, eternal values, timeless values,

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Speaker 3: classic values, the American values, the American way. And he

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Speaker 3: Turning point in America. That's what he was always fighting for.

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Speaker 3: And he has done it. He has absolutely done it.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right, and it's it's been I think it's

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Speaker 4: It's been a rough night for all of us who

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Speaker 3: Raahim tell us, tell us, you know, you you always

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Speaker 3: One of the ubiquitous turning point USA Maga hats that

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Speaker 3: it's a testament to the legacy of this man that

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Speaker 3: It certainly wasn't when Charlie started, when he either of

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Speaker 5: You know when I when I first met Charlie, I

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Speaker 5: You could sort of tell that immediately everything he did

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Speaker 5: I've lived with this for twenty years now. You know

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Speaker 5: He was targeted because he believed in doing the right thing.

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Speaker 5: And we will never stop doing the right thing. You

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Speaker 5: You know, there should be monuments going up to Charlie

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Speaker 3: And it's what Charlie would have wanted and his events Mfest,

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Speaker 3: Of course, we have JD Vance Air Force two now

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Speaker 5: Look, as I say Jack today, I really don't want

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Speaker 5: a horrific loss. And Jack you as well, you know

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Speaker 4: God bless Riem, Thank you so much, be right back.

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Speaker 9: Thank is so big.

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Speaker 4: Charlie Cook Memorial.

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Speaker 2: Show Welcome to America Fest.

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Speaker 7: Everybody.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, everybody. The real thank you is the Turning

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Speaker 4: That's who usould be applauding.

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Speaker 1: I like this touch Look at all these students that.

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Speaker 2: We have at Turning Point. You will look at this.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 2: They help win the election. Everybody.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So Wick, we're back live. We're here.

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Speaker 3: You're looking at a live shot of Turning Point headquarters

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Speaker 3: where the memorial for Charlie Kirk, one of the many memorials,

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Speaker 3: of people and they just haven't stopped coming all day.

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Speaker 3: He's in Washington, DC, along with myself, the Associate Deputy

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Speaker 9: Well, Jack, I'm okay. It's always good to see you.

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Speaker 9: You're an old friend. It gives me some comfort, but

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Speaker 9: it's always good to talk to and be with listeners,

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Speaker 3: It's really tough, you know, Ed, I was just thinking

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Speaker 4: And I said, I said, who is it? You know,

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Speaker 9: the really funny things is when you have somebody who's

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Speaker 9: so capable and talented and you know, twenty five years

437
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 9: younger than me, and I learned from him and like

438
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 9: so he was extraordinary. I will give a little hat

439
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 9: tip Phyllis Schlafley, who found an evil for him and

440
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 9: was my mentor. She was really good at bringing people together.

441
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Speaker 9: And one of the things that happened with Charlie is

442
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 9: we could get together and you and others. That was

443
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Speaker 9: an extraordinary time and we all grew together and we

444
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 9: kind of grew up and it was that was awesome,

445
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Speaker 9: and Phyllis was great at that.

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Speaker 6: But that's the thing I've.

447
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Speaker 9: Been thinking a lot about Jack is we got to

448
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 9: watch Charlie grow over these years, and it was something

449
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Speaker 9: that was so inspiring. Meaning when he was eighteen and

450
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 9: started turning point and from maybe till he was like,

451
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Speaker 9: I don't know, twenty three or four, he was like

452
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 9: a young buck and he was like he was energetic,

453
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Speaker 9: and he was doing lots of things, and he was

454
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Speaker 9: he had a sort of feel of him that was

455
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 9: like contagious. You know, everyone wanted to kind of get

456
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Speaker 9: near him, but you.

457
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Speaker 6: Were like this guy. He was almost like a college kid.

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Speaker 9: And then he grew and then he was a builder

459
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Speaker 9: of an organization and then suddenly he was this mature leader.

460
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Speaker 9: I think his wife played a role, and then having

461
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 9: kids played a role. And by the time, I mean,

462
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Speaker 9: I can't even say it, by the time he's gone,

463
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Speaker 9: he was this extraordinary presence as a builder, as a

464
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Speaker 9: charismatic person, as a father, as a Christian, and as

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Speaker 9: a communicator. And to see that he like lived his life.

466
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 9: We all saw it. And he most of us don't

467
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 9: succeed like he did. We kind of go and fits

468
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 9: and starts. You know, you have some things that go

469
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 9: well and some things that don't. He had this kind

470
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Speaker 9: of gradual success that has been extraordinary to see. And

471
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 9: as he got bigger and better, success more successful, what

472
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 9: he somehow did was he really honed in on other people.

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Speaker 9: I was at the White House today and I had

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Speaker 9: someone tell me, who was not a big name or

475
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Speaker 9: anything on somebody you know or anybody you know, and

476
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 9: and she said, he was so good at making you

477
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 9: feel special.

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Speaker 6: And I have had a privilege.

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00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 9: Of knowing John Paul the Second and mother Teresa and

480
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 9: uh and you know the President United States, Donald Trump.

481
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Speaker 9: But always one of the gifts that people have that

482
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 9: are truly special is that they make the other person

483
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 9: feel valuable, valued. And when you heard Charlie and some

484
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 9: of the cliffs talking about everyone's made in the image

485
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 9: of likeness of God. If you really believe that, then

486
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 9: sunsets and mountains are extraordinary a part of God's creation.

487
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 9: But any person, and you've seen this on Charlie with

488
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 9: these crazy lefties that would talk to him, he he

489
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 9: just loved it. He loved people. He loved those people

490
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 9: and that show that shined through him. And Uh, it's

491
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 9: extraordinary to realize. And I'm rambling because I can't stand it, Jack,

492
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 9: but it's a wonderful it's a wonderful thing to have

493
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Speaker 9: had Charlie Kirk uh in our lives. And it's a

494
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 9: it's a tribute to America that the Charlie Kirk has created.

495
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Speaker 9: I mean, it's it's an extraordinary gift.

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Speaker 4: Amen Ed Martin. God bless to you.

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Speaker 3: God bless to everyone at the White House and everyone

498
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: for for everything that they're they're doing for Charlie's memory

499
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Speaker 3: and and for the family.

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Speaker 4: Thank you after joining.

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00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 9: Us, God bless your folks.

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Speaker 4: Right back, Jack Sovic m. Jack soviec for your back.

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00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: Live here the Charlie Kirk Memorial Show. You're looking at

504
00:29:53,840 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 3: live shot there at Turning Point us a headquarters, and

505
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: we've been bringing on all of the uh, all the

506
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 3: posse here on the show today and finally tracked down

507
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 3: the elusive Blake. NEF Blake is joining us now here

508
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 3: on the program. And Blake actually was not only there

509
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: in Salt Lake City, but was there on the campus

510
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 3: yesterday when all this happened. Blake, first, first of all, man,

511
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: how are you.

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Speaker 10: I mean, given given the totality of everything that's going on,

513
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 10: I'm I'm doing about as well as I can. It's

514
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 10: it's awful and very numb about everything. Uh, but you

515
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 10: know what, you know, what Charlie would want us to do.

516
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 10: He would want us to suit up soldier on and

517
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 10: that's what that's what we all intend to do.

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00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's it's that's the talking to just

519
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 3: everybody last night and you and I spoke briefly, and

520
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: you know, going around the horn, it's it's the one

521
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: thing saying that nobody has any question of, is what

522
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: Charlie would want us to do. He would just say

523
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: keep going. He would keep going, just keep going. That's

524
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 3: here you go, here's the baton, it's yours now, keep going.

525
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: And that's and that's that's who he was.

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00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 4: He didn't.

527
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: You know, even people talk about his Saturday off and

528
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: he didn't even really take the day off. He's always

529
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 3: he's out hiking, he's out working on something else.

530
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 10: It was the most like aggressive day off possible. It

531
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 10: is like, this is, yes, the family day all in

532
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 10: on this like it is not. This is not a

533
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 10: passive day off.

534
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 8: It's not. It was.

535
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 10: It was part of the totality of who was Charlie Kirk,

536
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 10: that he was one on the mission at all times,

537
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 10: and sometimes that mission was saving America, and sometimes that

538
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 10: mission was Charlie Kirk's family, and he was one for

539
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 10: both of those things all the way to the end.

540
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 4: So, I mean, Blake, look, you were there yesterday.

541
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Speaker 3: Obviously there's some I'm sure there's some sense stuff that

542
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: I don't I don't want to get into until the

543
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: appropriate time, But you know, what was it? I mean,

544
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: you go there, You've been to you know how many

545
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: of Charlie's campus events at.

546
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Speaker 4: You know, what was it like?

547
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 3: Did you sense that something was off before the gunshot

548
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: rang out?

549
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Speaker 4: Kind of paint the picture for.

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Speaker 10: Us, you know, I don't want to, I don't want

551
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 10: to lead too much into it, but after it happened.

552
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Speaker 8: I talked to some other members of the team, and

553
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 8: several of.

554
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 10: Us did say we we experienced some sort of unsettling feeling.

555
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 10: I think for me it was that it was in

556
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 10: this amphitheater, which really emphasized like the size of the crowd,

557
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 10: but also it emphasized, you know, the buildings in the background.

558
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Speaker 8: And actually for the first few.

559
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 10: Minutes, you know, before Charlie walked out, I remember I

560
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 10: was scanning. I was just looking around idly, like, oh,

561
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 10: where would someone be if something happened, And I didn't

562
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 10: think too much of it. I stopped, you know, by

563
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 10: the time Charlie came out, But I immediately thought back

564
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 10: to that as as.

565
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Speaker 8: Soon as it happened.

566
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Speaker 10: When it did, I was about I would say, I

567
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 10: was about ten feet to Charlie's left when it happened,

568
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 10: and it was just it's, you know, that one of

569
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 10: those moments that will crystallize in your mind forever.

570
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Speaker 8: You know.

571
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 10: You hear that the pop, and it's not completely clear

572
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 10: immediately what it is, uh, But then I looked to

573
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 10: my right and I saw immediately what it was.

574
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Speaker 8: And I'll never forget it.

575
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Speaker 3: No, And was there was there a thought I mean, obviously,

576
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Speaker 3: Charlie's got great security that that I know got what

577
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: got to him immediately. These guys are incredibly well trained.

578
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: I know Dan, and I know everybody, I know the

579
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: whole team, and I'm sure they got him the medical

580
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 3: attention immediately that he needed, got him where he you know,

581
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 3: to hire medical facilities at the hospital, and you know,

582
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: but just so when that happened, you know, is it

583
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Speaker 3: did it did it seem surreal in the sense, did

584
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Speaker 3: it seem like Butler? Did it seem like everyone sort

585
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: of you know, you know, scatters or was it just

586
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 3: just just kind of as confusing as it sounds.

587
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 10: It was definitely confusing, but it was also you know,

588
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 10: it was how to describe it, It was clear what

589
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 10: had happened. There was there was only one shot.

590
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Speaker 8: We all immediately saw what had happened. You were correct.

591
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Speaker 10: The security got him immediately, got him into the car, immediately,

592
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 10: got him out immediately. They could not have done their

593
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 10: job on that front any better. And then at that

594
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 10: point it was you know, what do we do? And

595
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 10: I know, on my end, I think the first thing

596
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 10: I did was I sent a message to I opened

597
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 10: telegram and I went to our turning point thing, and

598
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 10: I said, lockdown turning point. I imagined they'd already seen

599
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 10: it too, but I just said, lock it down. Something happened,

600
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 10: do it right asap, and then I'll be honest. I

601
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 10: called my mom because I didn't know if there would

602
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 10: be anyone else out there, if anything else, what happens,

603
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 10: So I just called my mom and said immediately, I

604
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 10: can't say more, but Mom, Charlie got shot.

605
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Speaker 8: I love you. I have to go.

606
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 10: And then from there I met up with some other

607
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 10: members of the team. We got to the hospital within

608
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Speaker 10: i'd say about twenty five minutes or so, and the

609
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 10: rest of the day unfolded from there.

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Speaker 3: You know, Blake, you you know, as a producer for Charlie,

611
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 3: you worked so closely with him every single day and

612
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 3: directly on you know, so much of the content that

613
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 3: we all got to experience and enjoy as as the

614
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Speaker 3: beneficiaries of this work. I mean, what's running through your

615
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 3: mind now in terms of not having Charlie.

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Speaker 10: It really does. It's painful to say, but he is.

617
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 10: He is irreplaceable. And people would ask about this and

618
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 10: I would say, Charlie is not He's not just a

619
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Speaker 10: show host and that was what stood out about him,

620
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 10: so that he could be in everything. He was a

621
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Speaker 10: guy in media, he was in you know, an organization builder.

622
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 10: He could do get out the vote, he could do

623
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Speaker 10: grassroots outreach, he could do you know, he cared about

624
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 10: all of the policy stuff. So he could go into

625
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 10: the White House and talk to them about appointments, about policy,

626
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 10: about what the Senate should be doing.

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Speaker 8: He went.

628
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Speaker 10: He was in every part of it because he cared

629
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Speaker 10: about all of it so much. You know, the world

630
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 10: of politics is so it's full of a lot of

631
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 10: people who are in it for you know, they care

632
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 10: a bit about you know, the issues, but they also

633
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 10: care about themselves, about getting famous, about getting rich, about

634
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 10: resolving some grievance. But Charlie, every single day, he was

635
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 10: going all out for the things he cared about the most,

636
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 10: which was how does he make America better? And also

637
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 10: that he was a man of you know, deep Christian

638
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 10: faith and he wanted to advance.

639
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 8: Advanced Christianity. He wanted a spiritual revival in America.

640
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 10: And what truthfully, what I kept thinking of after the

641
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 10: news broke was just before this tour happened, Charlie did

642
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 10: a quick visit to Korea and Japan.

643
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 8: He gave some speeches there and so the last.

644
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 10: Kind of normal, you know, the last speech he gave

645
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 10: was in Japan, and this is to an audience of

646
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 10: conservative Japanese people. They're anti immigration, they're anti they're they're

647
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 10: like they're not they're Japanese nationalists.

648
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 8: There's very few Christians in Japan.

649
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Speaker 10: And I was telling Charlie about that, you know, this

650
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 10: is not your normal audience where it's going to be

651
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 10: a lot of Christians, and he said, you know what,

652
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Speaker 10: like I would still like to provide some witness to

653
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Speaker 10: Christian faith for these people.

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Speaker 8: Where could we put that in? And we did and

655
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Speaker 8: he put it in there.

656
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 10: You know, he was saying, you guys have to save

657
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 10: your country and you're going to need to believe in

658
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 10: something transcendent, something eternal, and for me, that is my

659
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 10: faith in Jesus Christ. And so the last speech Charlie

660
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 10: gave he was he was witness scene to Christianity to

661
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 10: an audience overwhelmingly of non Christians. And then the last

662
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 10: question he answered before, you know, the one he was

663
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 10: answering when the shooting happened. He was talking about his

664
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 10: Christian faith with it was you know, Mormonism versus Protestantism,

665
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 10: but he was witnessing to the Gospel there.

666
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 8: And I know that.

667
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 10: If Charlie, you know, if Charlie had to go the

668
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 10: way he did, he would have wanted it to be

669
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Speaker 10: while he was witnessing to Christ in that way.

670
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 4: There's no question, there's no question. That's that's obviously.

671
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: Anyone who spent five minutes with Charlie would know that that.

672
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: It's it's not politics that his is his driving force.

673
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 3: It's that because he would he'd find a way to

674
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 3: switch it to that or once he got to know.

675
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 4: That you were into it, he would send you, you.

676
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: Know, hey, Jack, here's this this five hour course that

677
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 3: I'm doing on the Book of Genesis. You gotta you

678
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 3: gotta listen to all five hours and then let's talk

679
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 3: about it, you know.

680
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 4: And that's just that's what he what he was like.

681
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 3: That's that's just what he was like, and constantly on

682
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: fire for the Lord. And I've said it, I do

683
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 3: consider him a Christian martyr.

684
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 4: I really do.

685
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

686
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Speaker 8: I think that's entirely fair or not fair. No, it's

687
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 8: just true. It's true. Charlie.

688
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 10: Charlie died a martyr for the two things he cared

689
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 10: about most. He cared about the Christian religion and he

690
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 10: cared about, you know, the freedom is the constitution of

691
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 10: the United States.

692
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 8: He's a martyr to Christianity and he's a martyr.

693
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 10: To the freedom of speech that he so earnestly believed

694
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 10: in the power of, you know, going out engaging with people.

695
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 10: And it wasn't that he had to own every single

696
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 10: lib it was that, you know, he would always say.

697
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 10: One of the lines he would do when he was

698
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 10: arguing with someone on campus is you know, we don't

699
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 10: have agreement, but we have clarity.

700
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 8: And he was always looking for that.

701
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 10: He believes that when you debate, you learn more about

702
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 10: the other person, you understand what motivates them. And that's

703
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 10: a deeply humanizing thing about another person. And I think

704
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 10: it's so powerfully symbolic of what we are against that

705
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 10: it was while he was doing that, that's some.

706
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 3: Plain I know, you break him down like that, I

707
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 3: know you've got some logistics to run to.

708
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 4: We're headed up to break here. But I'll see you soon, man.

709
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 4: I just want to let you know I'll be there.

710
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 4: I'll see some great Jack Soviek, We're here.

711
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: Univan's Daily Charlie Kirk Memorial Show, Washington, d C.

712
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 4: And when I look at.

713
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: The tributes coming out by the way, I have to.

714
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 4: Something I haven't mentioned, the sports tributes.

715
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 3: Charlie was an incredible sports fan, and Yankee Stadium put

716
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: him up something completely outside of politics, but it didn't

717
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: matter because Charlie was bigger than politics. He was an

718
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: icon and he just visited Wrigley Field Chicago Cubs recently

719
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 3: dream of his since he was young, since he was young,

720
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 3: but since he was a little boy.

721
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 4: And you're starting to.

722
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 3: See even now athletes and people are sending me tweets

723
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 3: and messages that are coming in. Where there were so

724
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: many people in the sports world, in the corporate world,

725
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 3: in the tech world who were great fans of Charlie,

726
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: and yet because of the circumstances of the situation our

727
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: country is in, they previously were not able to publicly

728
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 3: voice that support because of what we've been living through

729
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 3: in this country.

730
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Speaker 4: And that's the saddest part of all, because.

731
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 3: Everything that Charlie Kirk did to get us out of

732
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 3: the situation we were in is what led them to

733
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: do this. They couldn't debate him, so they shot him.

734
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 3: I want to bring Libby emmons On, now editor in

735
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 3: chief of The Post Millennial and a good friend to

736
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 3: Charlie as well as the editor of Human Events.

737
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 4: Libby, how you holding up.

738
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 11: I'm finding this to be a difficult time.

739
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 12: I'm sure that it's much more difficult for the people

740
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 12: who are close to Charlie and unforgettable presence, and certainly

741
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 12: this is a loss the world will not soon forget.

742
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 12: I think it's really interesting and telling what you're talking

743
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 12: about with the sports figures who have come out and

744
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 12: given their sadness and shared that grief with the world

745
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 12: now that Charlie has passed, and you say something very interesting,

746
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 12: which is that a lot of people did not feel

747
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 12: that they were able to do that previously. And I

748
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 12: think that that attitude, that attitude that we that we

749
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 12: are cowed, that we will not speak out the truth,

750
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 12: that we will hide what we really feel and really

751
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 12: think that we will let our you know, blue haired cousins,

752
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 12: or our you know, HR departments or anybody else tell

753
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 12: us what we.

754
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 11: Can and cannot say, what we can and cannot think.

755
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 12: That comes to an end. That comes to an end

756
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 12: now because there is absolutely no.

757
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 11: Good reason when you look back on it, when you

758
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 11: look back over the past ten years or.

759
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 12: So, there's absolutely no good reason that we shouldn't all

760
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 12: have been speaking up and speaking the truth and being

761
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 12: honest and direct and forthright this entire time. There's no

762
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 12: reason for it. There was no reason for it then,

763
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 12: and there's no reason for it now. And if there's

764
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 12: anything that we move forward with in terms of something

765
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 12: to take from this, it is to speak out.

766
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 11: It is to be honest.

767
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 12: It is to be direct and forthright, with a smile

768
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 12: on your face.

769
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 11: It is to share the word of God in your

770
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 11: actions and in your deeds, and to do that unflinchingly,

771
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 11: just unflinchingly, No more bowing, no more keeping silent because

772
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 11: you're afraid of your friends. Absolutely, that comes to an

773
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 11: end right now. If we all just speak up together,

774
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 11: if we all have that courage, then they can't take us.

775
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 11: Then there's nothing that.

776
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 12: Can be done to silence us, because we would be

777
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 12: too loud as loud as a turning point event frankly,

778
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 12: because those things get really loud.

779
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 4: Well, that's right, yeah, I know that.

780
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 3: Charlie would tell us exactly that, if you were here today,

781
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 3: he would say, keep going be loud, take up space,

782
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 3: get out there, show them what you made of and

783
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 3: don't bite down down, because Charlie never got down.

784
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

785
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 11: No, And this is something I was talking to the

786
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 11: It just never stopped.

787
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was.

788
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 12: Talking to the Human Events columnists, and we yesterday had

789
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 12: basically started putting together a tribute, something that we, I

790
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,479
Speaker 12: think collectively hoped would be a giant get well card

791
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 12: that we could send with a big teddy bear in balloons.

792
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 12: And that of course changed as the as the day

793
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 12: went on. But everybody had something to say. Everybody was

794
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 12: touched by Charlie, whether they had met him or not,

795
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 12: or just been to an event or had seen his

796
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 12: his clips and seen what he was capable of and

797
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 12: seeing what he had done, everyone had something to say.

798
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 12: And there was when I when I talked to our

799
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 12: you know, columnist chat and I said, you know, we're

800
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 12: going to need a column on Charlie.

801
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 11: And everyone wanted to write it. Literally, everyone wanted to

802
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 11: write it.

803
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 12: You know, And so we gathered Kenny Cody and I

804
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 12: the opinion, or we gathered together everybody's thoughts and put

805
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 12: that together and you can read that on humanevents dot com.

806
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 12: It's something that I think is definitely worth taking the

807
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 12: time to look at. And you know, I certainly hope

808
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 12: that it's something that that Charlie would would like himself ideally,

809
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 12: you know, that's that's who it's for.

810
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 4: Well.

811
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 3: And Charlie has just always been such a supporter of

812
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 3: the post millennial, millennial of human events, really integral a

813
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 3: story that we haven't really even told to, you know,

814
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 3: taking those platforms to the next level. Just so much

815
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 3: that he did behind the scenes to encourage new media

816
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 3: building institutions, taking things to the next level, even stuff

817
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: that he didn't need his name on, didn't want his

818
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 3: name on, didn't because he wasn't about that. He didn't

819
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 3: need his name on everything. He just wanted people to

820
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 3: be doing well. And I think that that was sort of,

821
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 3: i mean, just one of his many, many incredible talents.

822
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 4: That he wan he truly lived for others and not himself.

823
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think that's right.

824
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 12: And that story of Charlie's hand in the postmennial and

825
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 12: human events and bringing those two properties together and then

826
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 12: boosting them and boosting them. I'm forever grateful to Charlie

827
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 12: for that and you know, for making it so that

828
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 12: we can have this platform and that all of my staff,

829
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 12: who are wonderful people, are able to speak out.

830
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 11: And are able to write the truth. I think that's

831
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 11: so important.

832
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 12: And literally everyone on staff at Postmennial had something positive

833
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 12: to say. All of the editors and writers came together

834
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 12: and shared their thoughts, and these were all these were

835
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 12: all personal.

836
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 11: Memories, you know.

837
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 12: I mean, this isn't just like Charlie Kirk is a

838
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 12: great figure and I've seen him from afar. This was

839
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 12: Charlie Kirk is someone who touched my life personally, and

840
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 12: I was very moved by what everyone had to say

841
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 12: for that, and thinking back on the times that I

842
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 12: was on Charlie's show a couple of times, I shared

843
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 12: the stage with him once or twice, and every single

844
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 12: time I was honored to be part of the thing

845
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 12: that he was doing, quite frankly, because it always felt

846
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 12: like something that was urgent and integral and really important

847
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 12: for the future of this country. That he loved, that

848
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 12: I love, that we all love so much. And when

849
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 12: I think back on, you know, those times, he always

850
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 12: was so generous with himself, with his intelligence. He was

851
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 12: always direct and just so just so open and you know,

852
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 12: willing to share.

853
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 3: One, always going to share the spotlight too, always willing

854
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 3: to share. Yeah, Libya Emmons, thank you so much for

855
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 3: being here today, for sharing your voice.

856
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 4: I know it's a tough day to do this.

857
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 11: Thank you so much, Jack, I appreciate it.

858
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: All Right, folks, this is not the end of the story.

859
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: We're going to be rapping for now. But this isn't

860
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 3: the way the story ends. The story keeps going, the

861
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 3: fight keeps going. We stay on mission, we lock in.

862
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 4: For Charlie, and we will respond to the people who

863
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 4: did this. There was a debt. You robbed the world

864
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 4: of Charlie.

865
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 3: He robbed his family, You robbed his children, and the

866
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 3: debt will be paid. It's as simple as that. So

867
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 3: I wanted to end on this and to say God

868
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 3: bless you, Charlie. I will tell your children who you were.

869
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 3: He fought the fight, he died with your boots on,

870
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 3: and I know now you are in the presence of

871
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 3: the King.

872
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 4: Until we meet again, Brother,