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He's turning nineteen in a 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:32.880 few weeks. 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:36.280 You guys turning nineteen? How old do cats live too? 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:37.920 That's a depressing question that asked. 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:40.399 But I'm curious, So. 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.640 I adopted him when he was seventeen. I read that 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:48.160 they become senior when they're twelve. The average, like expected, 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:52.160 I guess, like lifespan is fifteen. But he's just chugging along. 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:58.280 M okay, what what you all right? Say? 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:00.639 You got a cat that's old? 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:05.600 Well, have you have you had the cat for nineteen 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:07.960 years or did you like find him when he was 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:08.680 fifteen or so? 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:14.360 No? No, so I only adopted him about a year ago. 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:17.920 My aunt was fostering him her one of her best 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:23.440 friends runs like a foster you know, organization for cats. Yeah, 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.840 and this family abandoned the cat. He gave like a 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:31.320 bunch of weird reasons, but including like, oh well, it's 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.120 like our daughter's cat and she got into drugs or something. 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.760 And then they also said that their other cat had 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:38.680 just died and they didn't want to go through it again. 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:41.680 But then I was reading his vet records and they 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.760 were like super rich and like taking him for like 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:50.600 cat acupuncture and chiropractic adjustments and feeding him this like 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.240 raw organic turkey stuff. I don't know, it was. The 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:56.520 whole situation was pretty weird, but overall, they just abandoned him. 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.120 And then I met him because my aunt was fostering him, 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:00.120 and I was like, oh my god. 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.520 So they so they so they I Here's what I'm 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:09.000 curious about is they gave the cat up for adoption 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:10.360 to a foster cat place. 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:15.720 Yeah, and so, oh, okay, that's not I wouldn't and 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:16.040 I don't. 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:18.000 I feel like that's not a bad When you say 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.160 a band in the cat, I thought like they put 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:21.080 him in the dumpsters. 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:26.640 But like if you're like, I agree, yeah, that that 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.320 I agree that makes sense. But also there's like there's 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.360 so many animals that need homes. It's like, you can't 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.400 take care of your own cat for like a couple 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:35.400 more years. 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.280 But I don't know I would, well can I And 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:39.720 I don't know. 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:41.440 I don't know anything about dogs. 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:46.840 But it wouldn't it if the family knows that they 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.480 can't take good care of the cat, wouldn't it be 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:51.640 better for them to give up the cat to somebody 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:53.760 who can do it competently. 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:59.880 Yes, but the family was rich and they just didn't 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.280 want to watch the cat pass away. 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.840 Ooh, oh you know what that's made it. That is 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:11.240 kind of that makes a lot of sense to Yeah, 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.560 they they getting all the good parts in and then 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:16.680 when it's time for the cat to die, they're like, 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.839 let somebody else do the sad stuff. 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:22.880 Right wait here he is, he's going to say, hello, 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:27.159 give him me out, Sammy's he's sniffing my phone. You'll 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.560 hear him me out in a minute. But yeah, so 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:32.240 he's he's a little sick right now. But he's like, 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.240 my love and joy. He looks like a four year 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:37.320 old cat. And I'm only twenty two, so he's like, 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.680 we're only four years apart because I'm about to turn 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:43.080 twenty three. And so he came to college with me, 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.279 and so he was like a little celebrity. We were 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.680 calling him freshman boy living with the senior girl. 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:51.880 That's kind of funny that, you guys, I didn't I 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:53.839 didn't even realize that. Yeah, you guys are pretty close 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:56.560 in age. I'm sure you have a lot of Yeah, 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.000 you know, if he weren't a cat you'd probably have a. 0:04:59.040 --> 0:04:59.800 Lot in common. 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.560 Yeah, right, it'd be a little kenchy, he'd be like 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:08.000 a little barely legal, but it'd be fine. 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:12.760 So okay, so they pawned. They pawn the depressing stuff 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.359 off to youkud look and look, you know, say what 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:15.960 you will about it. 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:17.800 But that, I mean, that's kind of a smart move 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:18.560 on their part. 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:23.719 Yeah, I guess so, because the only because the main 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:27.080 I mean that the main con of having uh, you know, 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:31.360 an adorable animal friend is that it will inevitably die 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:35.200 a slow, painful death, leaving you with tears and grief. 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:36.480 People, what if people did. 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:41.360 That with their family members. I guess they kind of do, Like, yeah, 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:42.360 that's what's hospices. 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.080 I guess I think this is like a more humane thing. 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.960 I feel like it's like nursing homes where it's like 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:53.599 like and I worked as an EMT for a while, 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.320 and like there's so many and I mean, like, of course, 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.120 a lot of people are in situations where they have 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.920 to like give their family members, like to a home, 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:04.239 but like, you know, like there's a lot of people 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.039 who will like keep their elderly family members alive for 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:10.440 a very long time, who could easily just like go 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:15.839 into hospice and like pass like a dignified, peaceful death, 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.320 but instead they want to keep like ninety year old 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:21.159 Papa on like e ventilator and dialysis. 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:23.640 Okay, wait a mate, here's okay, now you're here's the thing. 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:27.479 You're flipping on me here because you're you were anti 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:31.640 the rich people taking care of the cat and they didn't. 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:35.279 You were you were anti the rich people take taken 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:39.239 giving the cat away, but you're like with the person, 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:41.280 you should give them away to the hospice and not 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:45.880 take care of them. So you have opposing viewpoints for 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:49.920 how to you know, properly deal with an old cat 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:51.400 versus an old guy. 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.960 See, I feel like I don't think my points are 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:59.000 completely opposing, because what I'd say is, like I mean, 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.279 with this cat, like I'm taking care of him, but 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:04.400 like I'm not gonna put him through like hell with 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.240 medical treatments and everything and like chemo and shit, Like 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:09.240 I never do that to him, right, Like I just 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.040 let him like ride it out and everything. But like 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.280 since I care about him, like I'm gonna I'm gonna 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.520 watch him get sick and I'm gonna watch be there 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:18.280 for him and take care of him because he's my 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:23.160 loved one and everything. But like you know and like, 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.600 but like for a human like, I think that like 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:29.800 you should, you should take care of your loved ones 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.240 and everything, and you should let them like pass like 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:35.800 a dignified, peaceful death. But there's people who like will 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.360 pawn them off but still make their family members go 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:40.200 through a bunch of shit. But I guess it's different. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.560 I guess they're different things. I think I did go 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:44.239 on a tangent with the old people's stuff. 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:47.240 Well, no, I took those the rich people who gave 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:50.720 you the cat to watch stuff, to watch suffer. They 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.200 would call you a sucker, but I don't think that's true. 0:07:54.040 --> 0:08:00.920 I think there is dignity in watching a cat die 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:04.760 that somebody else raised. Here's what I was thinking. Here's 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:07.320 what I was thinking is have you ever seen Have 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.760 you ever seen Garfield to a Tale of Two Kiddies? 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:12.480 No? 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:13.520 Should I? 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:16.360 Well, I, I, well, I haven't either, but I've seen 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:20.240 the poster for it, and the poster seems to imply 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.400 I think the plot of that movie is I think 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:26.120 the plot of that movie is similar. Again, haven't seen it, 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.880 but I think it's similar to your exact situation because 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:37.560 it's about like a rich, aristocratic, aristocat cat who like 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:41.160 trades places with Garfield, who's like, you know, I guess 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:46.240 a a sort of middle lives a middle class existence, 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.200 and the and the rich cat now has to deal with, 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.160 you know, eating tu an ad of a can where 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:59.600 he was, you know, before, prepared these elegant meals and whatnot. 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:01.600 And this kind of remind this reminds me a little 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.199 bit of like the rich This was like a rich, 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:08.160 pampered cat and now he's like living in a college dorm, 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.559 you know, eating ramen with the rest of us. 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:14.360 I kept him, I did keep him on his bougie food. 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:16.160 I spoiled you cat. 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.040 Oh you did? What? How do you what kind of 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:21.800 bogie food does he eat? What do you kind of Jenny's? 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.400 It cost me twenty a week. It's fine. It's like 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:28.320 really not the end of the world. And it's got 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.800 it's made. I literally am looking at my friend right now. 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:36.680 It's raw organic turkey with like alfalfa sprouts and papayas 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:41.360 and almond meal and stuff. And I also the old 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.160 family also like had kept him only in one bedroom 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.800 because they would also sedate him because he like baby 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:49.839 clawed him right, so they called his claw out with 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.040 ethical right. I went through his whole of that record, 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.240 and they would sedate him in the morning because he 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:56.800 nibbles on your face to wake you up, and they 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:00.360 didn't like that. But I get this, count all toys. 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.120 He has the run of the house. Who's a college celebrity. 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.240 He had an eighteenth birthday party. We had a little 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:09.160 eighteenth birthday rager. And yeah, I still give him his 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.800 organic food. So Sandy is living it up. 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.319 I have a question. You said it's unethical to declaw 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:18.080 a cat. Do you think and a genuine question, do 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.040 you think it's unethical to neuter a dog? 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:27.520 Do I think it's unethical to neuter a dog? I 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.880 haven't even, like, I guess mentally gone down that rabbit hole, 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:34.559 but I don't. Maybe it's not a rabbit hole. I 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.040 guess it's like an important thing. 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:37.280 A dog hole. 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:42.840 More so, Yeah, I feel like it's not because there's 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.880 so many like dogs who like, like the whole purpose 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:49.480 of like neutering dogs is so that like they don't 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.800 continue to like reproduce because there's so many already like 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:57.800 stray dogs, Whereas like neutering a cat is like I mean, 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.440 not neutering. Declawing a cat is like taking off like 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:01.959 our fingernails. 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.920 Like I'm I feel like this whole call, I've been 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:06.640 arguing with you. 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:07.600 I don't mean to do that. 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:09.760 No, that's okay. I love this. 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:13.160 Okay, good, okay, God, I'm glad you enjoy this, because Kyle, 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:13.840 I love you. 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:15.360 I'm just thrilled to be talking to you. 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:17.560 I'm thrilled to be talking to you too. I hope 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:19.640 you don't think I'm being combative, but I'm all. I 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.680 am very curious because here's the thing. And I know 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:26.960 you say it's because you say it's unethical to declaw cat, 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:31.480 but it's fine to neuter a dog. If somebody, if 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.400 I had the choice between getting my fingernails clipped off 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:40.200 or my penis cut off, I would choose the fingernails. 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.079 But it's not that there. Here's the thing, though, it's 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:48.600 not your penis cut off. It's like getting what's it called, 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.359 what's a vasectomy? It's a aseectomy, and like a visectomy 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.679 is like not that bad, right, Like you can get 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:56.520 that shit reversed. I don't know if dogs can get 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:58.959 it reversed. But apparently like you just need like a 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:01.560 bag of frozen teas on your ball for like the rest. 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.120 Of the day, where you can wait? 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:06.079 You can? Can you? Can you reverse neuter a dog? 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:08.160 I'm gonna google that. I'm probably gonna be put on 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:14.239 some kind of fucking weird list of weird dog Can 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.320 you de neuter? 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.680 How do you spell neuter a dog? 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:26.880 Gu r T E R? I don't know, No, it 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:27.960 would be r t e R. 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:28.920 Just be t e R. 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:36.520 Okay, I'm seeing Okay, can you can you de neuter 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:43.920 a dog? Can you un neuter a dog? Male dogs 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:49.319 cannot be unnutered. Neutering involves removing the reproductive organs entirely, 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:53.120 and it is irreverse however, so yeah, so it's irreverse 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:57.040 however of a sectomy. Of a sectomy leaves the testes 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:00.000 and text, so the body still has normal Yeah, apparently 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:04.560 they they they by the way, don't I wouldn't. 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:06.680 I wouldn't. 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.360 I wouldn't be hard on yourself for not knowing that 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.360 much about neutering a dog, because it would be it 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.439 would be strange if you knew a lot about neutering dogs. 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:19.120 So unless I was, unless you were a vet like 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:25.679 a human now. Now, now, here's what the clause. Can 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:26.720 the claws grow back? 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.160 No, No, they're permanently removed. 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:34.760 It's not like fingernails. They can't just move but grow back. 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:38.840 No, it's like they pulled them off, like like I 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:42.200 personally imagine it, like they pulled them out like with clyires, 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.600 like in the you know, like the scary movies where 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:49.079 they're torturing people like they and at least cats apparently 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:52.920 with like long term psychological issues. Here we go, so 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:56.880 like if your cat goes stray, like they can't defend themselves, 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.680 they're just kind of screwed. But it's it's literally only 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:01.240 so they don't scratch up your furniture. 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:09.280 The Humane Society says Decloine can cause paw pain, back pain, infection, 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:14.960 and lameness. That's weird. That just says lameness. Removing clause 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:20.800 improperly removed claw Apparently improperly removed clause can regrow. 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:23.920 Interesting. 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:25.880 I don't know what that means. I don't know if 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:27.680 that what that means exactly. 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:30.960 Though, but maybe they didn't like take the whole thing out. 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:36.120 Okay, Well, either way, you know, I'm glad. I'm glad 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.920 as human beings. That you know, we don't have to 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.560 worry about getting new it or. 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:47.760 Declaud Yeah, at least not day age. 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:49.160 At least not in this day and age. 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:54.040 And you know, in a fucking we we're we're That's 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:57.920 a that's a privilege we have as people in America, 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:02.880 is that we don't have to get you know, declaude our. 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:06.160 God given right as Americans. 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:10.360 Well, let's see, we talked for about fifteen minutes about 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:13.400 your cat. I want to before we go, is there 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.200 anything else that you wanted to talk about? I know 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.120 that we kind of just talked about. I wasn't expecting 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:21.760 to talk to you about, uh, dog neutering, but you know, 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.920 I'm glad we did. Is there anything else that you 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.640 wanted to kind of talk about? I wanted to give 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.160 you the opportunity for that if something was floating around 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:30.720 in your brain. 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:37.240 Oh, thank you. I don't have anything particularly like like 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:40.000 weigh on me right now that I need to talk about. 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.720 I figured out if you have any questions for like 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.120 an EMTIERR ski patroller, I can answer. 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:46.880 Those if you ever have. 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:51.600 You're you're a ski patroller. Yeah, have you seen a 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.560 lot of like fucked up things? 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:58.160 Yeah? Not too much. I've seen more fucked up things 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.200 as an EMT, not as much as a ski patroller, 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:03.920 but I have. I've been doing this is actually I 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.080 just finished my seventh year. I just volunteer. I do 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:07.640 twenty Yoah wait. 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.360 You finished it? How old can I ask you? Can 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:10.120 I ask you how old you are? 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:11.240 Yeah? 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:11.640 That's fine. 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.160 I'm turning twenty three in May. But I started when 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.400 I was sixteen. You can actually start when you're fifteen 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.040 as a ski patroller, but you're not allowed to have 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:19.680 patience on your own till you're sixteen. 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.840 Dude, you're telling me I could be fuck you're telling 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.200 me I could get fucking decapitated and they would send 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:26.120 a sixteen year old. 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.400 I swear to god. I had a guy. I had 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.080 literally I was literally like seventeen, and I had a 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.040 sixteen year old who is like unconsciousness of the head injury, 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:39.440 and like it's like, y'all trust me with this stuff. 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:40.280 Holy shit. 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.760 The protocols for like ems aren't like too hard, you know, 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.000 like to become an EMT. It's like really like it's 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:47.920 like a three month full time class. 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.200 So wait, so there was so there was a sixteen 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.680 year old kid with like head trauma and you were 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:57.560 seventeen and they sent you Yes, holy shit, So did 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:00.120 they just send you like you are alone? 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:03.240 I was the first one there and then I called, 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:05.760 you know, I mean, so what the way it goes 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:09.399 at my mountain all least is they send one person 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:12.159 to check and see like what we need and to 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.960 like keep the person stable or do CPR whatever you 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:16.960 need at that moment, and then they call on the 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:20.000 radio for some more people or just one other. You 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:23.120 most calls you only need two people because you need 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.760 two people on the sled most of the time. But 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.040 I of course called for way more people. 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:30.680 Dude, if I were sixteen and they sent me to 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.399 like if I were if I were sixteen and they 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:35.840 sent me to like talk to like a kid who 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:37.879 had head trauma, I would be like, we need an adult. 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:43.960 Yeah, I don't know. It was. It was really interesting, 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.320 but it was I think the cop like being trusted 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.480 with that and like training for that at such a 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.200 young age like instilled me with a lot of confidence 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:55.679 that I've like carried on to have today. And it's 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:58.760 one of the best things I've ever done for myself. 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.320 I love it. There's people who like started doing it 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.760 when they were like sixteen eighteen. We have one guy 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:06.320 on our team who's like eighty five, and he's like 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.600 not seeing anymore, but he's still like helping run the clinic. 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:11.840 It's insane. People just do it forever. 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:14.760 I love it. 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.480 Yeah, it's weird being trusted with that at a young age. 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:19.480 Yeah, that would be I would be. 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:23.359 I'd probably have a fucking heart attack and they'd have 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:27.520 to send three other folks. 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:29.240 Yeah. 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:30.320 Somebody in the chad. 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.760 Said, would you rather the seventeen year old comedy the 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.520 eighty five year old? I'd probably rather the eighty five 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:37.360 year old. 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:43.919 I don't know. It depends on which eighty five year old. Like, 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:46.200 we have some of these guys on our team who 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:50.359 are older, like I would trust with like delivering my child, 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.320 and they are not even like doctors or anything. I 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:56.239 would just let them because I'm like, I trust you. 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:02.000 It just depends on the person. I guess, yes. But 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.320 like here's the thing, like there's a medical care and 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:08.320 then they're getting down the mountain in this led which 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:09.600 quad do you trust more? 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:11.200 Yeah? 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.600 I guess that's if if we're talking about like physically 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:17.119 needing to trans for transfer you down a place or 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:22.240 up a place. You know that that would make sense. Now, 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:26.520 why tell me why has it been such a great 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:28.439 experience for you? It's like I guess you said it 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:30.880 gave you. It gave you the confidence to like deal 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:31.760 with crazy shit. 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:38.000 Yeah. Yeah, and I've met some amazing people. It helped me. 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:41.879 It helps me a lot through nursing school having that background, 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:45.800 and I just accepted my first nursing job. I'm gonna 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:48.600 be in a pediatric ic you, and I'm kind of like, like, 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:52.040 you know, just I'm kind of like, all right, well, 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:54.080 if I could do that as a sixteen year old, 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:55.600 I could figure anything else out. 0:19:55.720 --> 0:20:00.000 You know, You're gonna be in a pediatric ice you. 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.920 Yeah. Are you residency though? 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:07.159 Are you? I? 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:10.879 I I hmmm? Are you do you? 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.040 Are you gonna see some like really kind of fucked 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:13.440 up shit? 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:17.560 Yeah? I mean like you are. I kind of like 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:20.399 just already kind of have in my career and like 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:24.600 my perspective on it is like, are like, like fucked 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.840 up shit happens regardless of all the time. I can't 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:29.880 watch one orders for you. That shit makes me cry, 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:33.359 But like being able to help in those moments, like 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:37.359 just it doesn't bother me as much because I'm able 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.359 to be in control of the situation and do something 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:40.800 about it. 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:41.720 Mmm. 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:43.000 I like that. 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:45.400 I so so so you can't watch law and Orders 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:47.880 for you because it's like even though it's fake, you're like, oh, 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:51.679