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I'm doing better now that I 22 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: am awake and alert. 23 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if that made any fucking sense, but 24 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: what are you. 25 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: Doing it's us. I'm putting together an Ikea table. I'm 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: hanging out with my cat. He's turning nineteen in a 27 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: few weeks. 28 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: You guys turning nineteen? How old do cats live too? 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: That's a depressing question that asked. 30 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: But I'm curious, So. 31 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: I adopted him when he was seventeen. I read that 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: they become senior when they're twelve. The average, like expected, 33 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 3: I guess, like lifespan is fifteen. But he's just chugging along. 34 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: M okay, what what you all right? Say? 35 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,639 Speaker 1: You got a cat that's old? 36 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: Well, have you have you had the cat for nineteen 37 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: years or did you like find him when he was 38 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: fifteen or so? 39 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: No? No, so I only adopted him about a year ago. 40 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 3: My aunt was fostering him her one of her best 41 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: friends runs like a foster you know, organization for cats. Yeah, 42 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: and this family abandoned the cat. He gave like a 43 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: bunch of weird reasons, but including like, oh well, it's 44 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: like our daughter's cat and she got into drugs or something. 45 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: And then they also said that their other cat had 46 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: just died and they didn't want to go through it again. 47 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: But then I was reading his vet records and they 48 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: were like super rich and like taking him for like 49 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: cat acupuncture and chiropractic adjustments and feeding him this like 50 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 3: raw organic turkey stuff. I don't know, it was. The 51 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 3: whole situation was pretty weird, but overall, they just abandoned him. 52 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: And then I met him because my aunt was fostering him, 53 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my god. 54 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: So they so they so they I Here's what I'm 55 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: curious about is they gave the cat up for adoption 56 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: to a foster cat place. 57 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so, oh, okay, that's not I wouldn't and 58 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: I don't. 59 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: I feel like that's not a bad When you say 60 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: a band in the cat, I thought like they put 61 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: him in the dumpsters. 62 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 3: But like if you're like, I agree, yeah, that that 63 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: I agree that makes sense. But also there's like there's 64 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 3: so many animals that need homes. It's like, you can't 65 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 3: take care of your own cat for like a couple 66 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: more years. 67 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: But I don't know I would, well can I And 68 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. 69 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about dogs. 70 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: But it wouldn't it if the family knows that they 71 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: can't take good care of the cat, wouldn't it be 72 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: better for them to give up the cat to somebody 73 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: who can do it competently. 74 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: Yes, but the family was rich and they just didn't 75 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: want to watch the cat pass away. 76 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: Ooh, oh you know what that's made it. That is 77 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: kind of that makes a lot of sense to Yeah, 78 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: they they getting all the good parts in and then 79 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: when it's time for the cat to die, they're like, 80 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: let somebody else do the sad stuff. 81 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: Right wait here he is, he's going to say, hello, 82 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 3: give him me out, Sammy's he's sniffing my phone. You'll 83 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: hear him me out in a minute. But yeah, so 84 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 3: he's he's a little sick right now. But he's like, 85 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: my love and joy. He looks like a four year 86 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: old cat. And I'm only twenty two, so he's like, 87 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: we're only four years apart because I'm about to turn 88 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 3: twenty three. And so he came to college with me, 89 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 3: and so he was like a little celebrity. We were 90 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: calling him freshman boy living with the senior girl. 91 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: That's kind of funny that, you guys, I didn't I 92 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: didn't even realize that. Yeah, you guys are pretty close 93 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: in age. I'm sure you have a lot of Yeah, 94 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: you know, if he weren't a cat you'd probably have a. 95 00:04:59,040 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: Lot in common. 96 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, it'd be a little kenchy, he'd be like 97 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: a little barely legal, but it'd be fine. 98 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: So okay, so they pawned. They pawn the depressing stuff 99 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 2: off to youkud look and look, you know, say what 100 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: you will about it. 101 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: But that, I mean, that's kind of a smart move 102 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: on their part. 103 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so, because the only because the main 104 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: I mean that the main con of having uh, you know, 105 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: an adorable animal friend is that it will inevitably die 106 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: a slow, painful death, leaving you with tears and grief. 107 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: People, what if people did. 108 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: That with their family members. I guess they kind of do, Like, yeah, 109 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 2: that's what's hospices. 110 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: I guess I think this is like a more humane thing. 111 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: I feel like it's like nursing homes where it's like 112 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 3: like and I worked as an EMT for a while, 113 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: and like there's so many and I mean, like, of course, 114 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: a lot of people are in situations where they have 115 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 3: to like give their family members, like to a home, 116 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 3: but like, you know, like there's a lot of people 117 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 3: who will like keep their elderly family members alive for 118 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 3: a very long time, who could easily just like go 119 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: into hospice and like pass like a dignified, peaceful death, 120 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 3: but instead they want to keep like ninety year old 121 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 3: Papa on like e ventilator and dialysis. 122 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: Okay, wait a mate, here's okay, now you're here's the thing. 123 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 2: You're flipping on me here because you're you were anti 124 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: the rich people taking care of the cat and they didn't. 125 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: You were you were anti the rich people take taken 126 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 2: giving the cat away, but you're like with the person, 127 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: you should give them away to the hospice and not 128 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: take care of them. So you have opposing viewpoints for 129 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: how to you know, properly deal with an old cat 130 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: versus an old guy. 131 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: See, I feel like I don't think my points are 132 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: completely opposing, because what I'd say is, like I mean, 133 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 3: with this cat, like I'm taking care of him, but 134 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: like I'm not gonna put him through like hell with 135 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: medical treatments and everything and like chemo and shit, Like 136 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: I never do that to him, right, Like I just 137 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: let him like ride it out and everything. But like 138 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: since I care about him, like I'm gonna I'm gonna 139 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: watch him get sick and I'm gonna watch be there 140 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: for him and take care of him because he's my 141 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: loved one and everything. But like you know and like, 142 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: but like for a human like, I think that like 143 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: you should, you should take care of your loved ones 144 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 3: and everything, and you should let them like pass like 145 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: a dignified, peaceful death. But there's people who like will 146 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: pawn them off but still make their family members go 147 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: through a bunch of shit. But I guess it's different. 148 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: I guess they're different things. I think I did go 149 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 3: on a tangent with the old people's stuff. 150 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: Well, no, I took those the rich people who gave 151 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: you the cat to watch stuff, to watch suffer. They 152 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: would call you a sucker, but I don't think that's true. 153 00:07:54,040 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: I think there is dignity in watching a cat die 154 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: that somebody else raised. Here's what I was thinking. Here's 155 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: what I was thinking is have you ever seen Have 156 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: you ever seen Garfield to a Tale of Two Kiddies? 157 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 3: No? 158 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 4: Should I? 159 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: Well, I, I, well, I haven't either, but I've seen 160 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: the poster for it, and the poster seems to imply 161 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: I think the plot of that movie is I think 162 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 2: the plot of that movie is similar. Again, haven't seen it, 163 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: but I think it's similar to your exact situation because 164 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: it's about like a rich, aristocratic, aristocat cat who like 165 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: trades places with Garfield, who's like, you know, I guess 166 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: a a sort of middle lives a middle class existence, 167 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: and the and the rich cat now has to deal with, 168 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: you know, eating tu an ad of a can where 169 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: he was, you know, before, prepared these elegant meals and whatnot. 170 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: And this kind of remind this reminds me a little 171 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 2: bit of like the rich This was like a rich, 172 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: pampered cat and now he's like living in a college dorm, 173 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 2: you know, eating ramen with the rest of us. 174 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: I kept him, I did keep him on his bougie food. 175 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 3: I spoiled you cat. 176 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: Oh you did? What? How do you what kind of 177 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: bogie food does he eat? What do you kind of Jenny's? 178 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: It cost me twenty a week. It's fine. It's like 179 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 3: really not the end of the world. And it's got 180 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: it's made. I literally am looking at my friend right now. 181 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 3: It's raw organic turkey with like alfalfa sprouts and papayas 182 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: and almond meal and stuff. And I also the old 183 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: family also like had kept him only in one bedroom 184 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: because they would also sedate him because he like baby 185 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 3: clawed him right, so they called his claw out with 186 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: ethical right. I went through his whole of that record, 187 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: and they would sedate him in the morning because he 188 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: nibbles on your face to wake you up, and they 189 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: didn't like that. But I get this, count all toys. 190 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: He has the run of the house. Who's a college celebrity. 191 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: He had an eighteenth birthday party. We had a little 192 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: eighteenth birthday rager. And yeah, I still give him his 193 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: organic food. So Sandy is living it up. 194 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 2: I have a question. You said it's unethical to declaw 195 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: a cat. Do you think and a genuine question, do 196 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: you think it's unethical to neuter a dog? 197 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: Do I think it's unethical to neuter a dog? I 198 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: haven't even, like, I guess mentally gone down that rabbit hole, 199 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 3: but I don't. Maybe it's not a rabbit hole. I 200 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: guess it's like an important thing. 201 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: A dog hole. 202 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: More so, Yeah, I feel like it's not because there's 203 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: so many like dogs who like, like the whole purpose 204 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: of like neutering dogs is so that like they don't 205 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: continue to like reproduce because there's so many already like 206 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: stray dogs, Whereas like neutering a cat is like I mean, 207 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 3: not neutering. Declawing a cat is like taking off like 208 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 3: our fingernails. 209 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: Like I'm I feel like this whole call, I've been 210 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: arguing with you. 211 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: I don't mean to do that. 212 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: No, that's okay. I love this. 213 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: Okay, good, okay, God, I'm glad you enjoy this, because Kyle, 214 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: I love you. 215 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: I'm just thrilled to be talking to you. 216 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: I'm thrilled to be talking to you too. I hope 217 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: you don't think I'm being combative, but I'm all. I 218 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 2: am very curious because here's the thing. And I know 219 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: you say it's because you say it's unethical to declaw cat, 220 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: but it's fine to neuter a dog. If somebody, if 221 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: I had the choice between getting my fingernails clipped off 222 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: or my penis cut off, I would choose the fingernails. 223 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 3: But it's not that there. Here's the thing, though, it's 224 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: not your penis cut off. It's like getting what's it called, 225 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,359 Speaker 3: what's a vasectomy? It's a aseectomy, and like a visectomy 226 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 3: is like not that bad, right, Like you can get 227 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 3: that shit reversed. I don't know if dogs can get 228 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 3: it reversed. But apparently like you just need like a 229 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 3: bag of frozen teas on your ball for like the rest. 230 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 5: Of the day, where you can wait? 231 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 2: You can? Can you? Can you reverse neuter a dog? 232 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna google that. I'm probably gonna be put on 233 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:14,239 Speaker 2: some kind of fucking weird list of weird dog Can 234 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: you de neuter? 235 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: How do you spell neuter a dog? 236 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: Gu r T E R? I don't know, No, it 237 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 3: would be r t e R. 238 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 6: Just be t e R. 239 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm seeing Okay, can you can you de neuter 240 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: a dog? Can you un neuter a dog? Male dogs 241 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 2: cannot be unnutered. Neutering involves removing the reproductive organs entirely, 242 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: and it is irreverse however, so yeah, so it's irreverse 243 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: however of a sectomy. Of a sectomy leaves the testes 244 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: and text, so the body still has normal Yeah, apparently 245 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 2: they they they by the way, don't I wouldn't. 246 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. 247 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be hard on yourself for not knowing that 248 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: much about neutering a dog, because it would be it 249 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 2: would be strange if you knew a lot about neutering dogs. 250 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: So unless I was, unless you were a vet like 251 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 2: a human now. Now, now, here's what the clause. Can 252 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: the claws grow back? 253 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 3: No, No, they're permanently removed. 254 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: It's not like fingernails. They can't just move but grow back. 255 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: No, it's like they pulled them off, like like I 256 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 3: personally imagine it, like they pulled them out like with clyires, 257 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: like in the you know, like the scary movies where 258 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 3: they're torturing people like they and at least cats apparently 259 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: with like long term psychological issues. Here we go, so 260 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: like if your cat goes stray, like they can't defend themselves, 261 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 3: they're just kind of screwed. But it's it's literally only 262 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: so they don't scratch up your furniture. 263 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: The Humane Society says Decloine can cause paw pain, back pain, infection, 264 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 2: and lameness. That's weird. That just says lameness. Removing clause 265 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: improperly removed claw Apparently improperly removed clause can regrow. 266 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 5: Interesting. 267 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. I don't know if 268 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: that what that means exactly. 269 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 3: Though, but maybe they didn't like take the whole thing out. 270 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, either way, you know, I'm glad. I'm glad 271 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 2: as human beings. That you know, we don't have to 272 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: worry about getting new it or. 273 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 3: Declaud Yeah, at least not day age. 274 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: At least not in this day and age. 275 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: And you know, in a fucking we we're we're That's 276 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: a that's a privilege we have as people in America, 277 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: is that we don't have to get you know, declaude our. 278 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: God given right as Americans. 279 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 2: Well, let's see, we talked for about fifteen minutes about 280 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: your cat. I want to before we go, is there 281 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: anything else that you wanted to talk about? I know 282 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: that we kind of just talked about. I wasn't expecting 283 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: to talk to you about, uh, dog neutering, but you know, 284 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: I'm glad we did. Is there anything else that you 285 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: wanted to kind of talk about? I wanted to give 286 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: you the opportunity for that if something was floating around 287 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: in your brain. 288 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. I don't have anything particularly like like 289 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: weigh on me right now that I need to talk about. 290 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: I figured out if you have any questions for like 291 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 3: an EMTIERR ski patroller, I can answer. 292 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 5: Those if you ever have. 293 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: You're you're a ski patroller. Yeah, have you seen a 294 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: lot of like fucked up things? 295 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? Not too much. I've seen more fucked up things 296 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: as an EMT, not as much as a ski patroller, 297 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 3: but I have. I've been doing this is actually I 298 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: just finished my seventh year. I just volunteer. I do 299 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: twenty Yoah wait. 300 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: You finished it? How old can I ask you? Can 301 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: I ask you how old you are? 302 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 303 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: That's fine. 304 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: I'm turning twenty three in May. But I started when 305 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: I was sixteen. You can actually start when you're fifteen 306 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: as a ski patroller, but you're not allowed to have 307 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: patience on your own till you're sixteen. 308 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: Dude, you're telling me I could be fuck you're telling 309 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 2: me I could get fucking decapitated and they would send 310 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: a sixteen year old. 311 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: I swear to god. I had a guy. I had 312 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 3: literally I was literally like seventeen, and I had a 313 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: sixteen year old who is like unconsciousness of the head injury, 314 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: and like it's like, y'all trust me with this stuff. 315 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: Holy shit. 316 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: The protocols for like ems aren't like too hard, you know, 317 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 3: like to become an EMT. It's like really like it's 318 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: like a three month full time class. 319 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: So wait, so there was so there was a sixteen 320 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: year old kid with like head trauma and you were 321 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: seventeen and they sent you Yes, holy shit, So did 322 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 2: they just send you like you are alone? 323 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 3: I was the first one there and then I called, 324 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, so what the way it goes 325 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 3: at my mountain all least is they send one person 326 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 3: to check and see like what we need and to 327 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 3: like keep the person stable or do CPR whatever you 328 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 3: need at that moment, and then they call on the 329 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: radio for some more people or just one other. You 330 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 3: most calls you only need two people because you need 331 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 3: two people on the sled most of the time. But 332 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: I of course called for way more people. 333 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 2: Dude, if I were sixteen and they sent me to 334 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 2: like if I were if I were sixteen and they 335 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: sent me to like talk to like a kid who 336 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 2: had head trauma, I would be like, we need an adult. 337 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. It was. It was really interesting, 338 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: but it was I think the cop like being trusted 339 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 3: with that and like training for that at such a 340 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 3: young age like instilled me with a lot of confidence 341 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 3: that I've like carried on to have today. And it's 342 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 3: one of the best things I've ever done for myself. 343 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: I love it. There's people who like started doing it 344 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 3: when they were like sixteen eighteen. We have one guy 345 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 3: on our team who's like eighty five, and he's like 346 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 3: not seeing anymore, but he's still like helping run the clinic. 347 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: It's insane. People just do it forever. 348 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 5: I love it. 349 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird being trusted with that at a young age. 350 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be I would be. 351 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 2: I'd probably have a fucking heart attack and they'd have 352 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: to send three other folks. 353 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 354 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: Somebody in the chad. 355 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: Said, would you rather the seventeen year old comedy the 356 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: eighty five year old? I'd probably rather the eighty five 357 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 2: year old. 358 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 3: I don't know. It depends on which eighty five year old. Like, 359 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 3: we have some of these guys on our team who 360 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 3: are older, like I would trust with like delivering my child, 361 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 3: and they are not even like doctors or anything. I 362 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,239 Speaker 3: would just let them because I'm like, I trust you. 363 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: It just depends on the person. I guess, yes. But 364 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 3: like here's the thing, like there's a medical care and 365 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: then they're getting down the mountain in this led which 366 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: quad do you trust more? 367 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 6: Yeah? 368 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: I guess that's if if we're talking about like physically 369 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 2: needing to trans for transfer you down a place or 370 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: up a place. You know that that would make sense. Now, 371 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: why tell me why has it been such a great 372 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 2: experience for you? It's like I guess you said it 373 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 2: gave you. It gave you the confidence to like deal 374 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: with crazy shit. 375 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and I've met some amazing people. It helped me. 376 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 3: It helps me a lot through nursing school having that background, 377 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: and I just accepted my first nursing job. I'm gonna 378 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 3: be in a pediatric ic you, and I'm kind of like, like, 379 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 3: you know, just I'm kind of like, all right, well, 380 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: if I could do that as a sixteen year old, 381 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: I could figure anything else out. 382 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: You know, You're gonna be in a pediatric ice you. 383 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. Are you residency though? 384 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 2: Are you? I? 385 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: I I hmmm? Are you do you? 386 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: Are you gonna see some like really kind of fucked 387 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: up shit? 388 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean like you are. I kind of like 389 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 3: just already kind of have in my career and like 390 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: my perspective on it is like, are like, like fucked 391 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 3: up shit happens regardless of all the time. I can't 392 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 3: watch one orders for you. That shit makes me cry, 393 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 3: But like being able to help in those moments, like 394 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 3: just it doesn't bother me as much because I'm able 395 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 3: to be in control of the situation and do something 396 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 3: about it. 397 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 4: Mmm. 398 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: I like that. 399 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 2: I so so so you can't watch law and Orders 400 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 2: for you because it's like even though it's fake, you're like, oh, 401 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 2: I'm just a passive observer of these these horrors, but 402 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: at least you know in the ICU, You're like, oh, 403 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: this is really fucked up, but I can do something 404 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: about it, exactly. 405 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I can't stand and watch a code. I 406 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 3: have to be doing something or like tears will fall 407 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 3: down my face like it's already happened, Like I can't. 408 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 3: When I was a nursing student, like and I had 409 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: to watch a code once, I was like I can't 410 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: watch this, Like I started crying. But like if I've 411 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 3: run codes by myself, you know, since I was eighteen, 412 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 3: and like it's been fine. 413 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 2: You know what is what is code? 414 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 3: A code on the ambulance, it usually means like CPR 415 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 3: in progress because I did ski patrol an ambulance while 416 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 3: I was in nursing school. But in the hospital it 417 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,479 Speaker 3: could be like a stroke code. It could be you know, 418 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 3: just like it depends kind of like where you are, 419 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 3: Like what terminology. It could be that someone's like bleeding 420 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 3: out and about to you know, like go into cardiac arrest, 421 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 3: but code usually means cardiac arrest in my experience so 422 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 3: far at least. 423 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: Hmm. Okay, well, you know I like this perspective because, yeah, 424 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: you're very brave to do that, because, like you know, 425 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it's true, fucked up shit happens. And I've 426 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 2: all I've always thought about, like, you know, the people 427 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 2: who like show up at the scenes of like, you know, 428 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: crazy crazy things, and like how that must affect them. 429 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 6: You know. 430 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 2: But the way that you the way that you talk 431 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: about it, where you're like, I'm not as scared of 432 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: it because I know what to do and I can 433 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: actually like go in and help as opposed to just 434 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 2: being a like like you were talking about, kind of 435 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: a passive observer of of of these uh these codes. 436 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 7: You know. 437 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: I like that. 438 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm glad. 439 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: I'm glad that folks like you exist so that, you know, 440 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 2: when I get a paper cut someone someone's brave enough 441 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 2: to help me out and not you know, too grossed out. 442 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: Thank you man. Yeah, I don't know. It's also just exciting. 443 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 3: I mean, like a lot of people who do it, 444 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: just enjoy it a lot. It's interesting, it's fun. A 445 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 3: lot of people like the pride that comes out of it, 446 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 3: and I do too. But yeah, it's nice being able 447 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 3: to do something you just have to study outside of 448 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 3: work a lot and lean on your training. 449 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: Well, this was a pleasure talking to you about dog 450 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: penises and being an EMT. What is your what is 451 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 2: your name. 452 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 3: Against It's Michaela my real name today. 453 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 2: Oh, I was going you could have given me a 454 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: fake now. I mean, if you don't want to use 455 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 2: your name, I can, I can cut it out. 456 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: But I mean, also, there's no one. 457 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 3: Heard this the combination of the nineteen year old cat 458 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: and the ski patroller and nursing. They'd be like, oh, 459 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 3: that's Michaela. So it's fine. I'm coming to your show 460 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 3: in New York. 461 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 2: So I'll see, that'll be That'll be awesome, great, great, great, 462 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 2: I'm excited. See. Okay, So I'm gonna I'm gonna say 463 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 2: this and I'm going to try to hold myself to it. 464 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: Uh and I funk. 465 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if I talked about this in a podcast, storry, 466 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 2: but whatever. People. As I've been on the tour, people 467 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 2: have been coming up to me and being like, oh, 468 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: we talked on the phone before. Do you remember me? 469 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 2: And actually half the time I do. Like I met 470 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: I met the girl who drank somebody's blood. I met 471 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: the guy whose sister was addicted to VR video games. 472 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: I met this dude who he and I both licked 473 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 2: an Xbox controller over the phone together. Like I've been, 474 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: I've been meeting folks and half the time I don't remember, 475 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 2: but half the time I do. So if you if 476 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: you're like, hey, we talked about neutering dogs and being 477 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: an EMT, I am pretty sure I'll remember. So if 478 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 2: jog say that this was you, I won't remember your name, 479 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 2: but I will remember what we talked about. 480 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 3: That is totally fine. I am thrilled. I'm excited. Thank 481 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 3: you so much for giving me the time and everything. 482 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 2: And I'm oh, thank you mana, thank you for saving 483 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: all the skeeech all the children. Thank you for saving 484 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 2: the mountain children are our future. 485 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. I appreciate it. 486 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: You Bye bye. 487 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 4: God. 488 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: I wanna I would love a Save the Mountain Children 489 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 2: T shirt? 490 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: How do I get one of those? 491 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 2: Hey? 492 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: Adrian, how are you doing? 493 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 2: Man? 494 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 4: I'm good? 495 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 3: How are you. 496 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: I'm doing all right. What's uh? What's what's your life like? 497 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 4: Is this the geg? 498 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: This is the GEK? 499 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 4: That's so crazy? 500 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: Oh? 501 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 4: My life's fine right now. It's been a lot of 502 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 4: ups and downs. I'm a little neighvous. 503 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: That's okay. 504 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: What tell me about the ups and downs if you 505 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: want to? 506 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 4: Okay, I might get emotional. I okay, I got broken 507 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 4: up with like on Monday. 508 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: Oh really? 509 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? 510 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: What's what was the cause of this breakup? 511 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 4: I honestly don't know. She just said, uh, I don't 512 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 4: think we should be together, and I'm sorry. 513 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 3: Mm hmm m. 514 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: Okay. How long were you dating her? 515 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: For? 516 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 4: Like five months? 517 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: Okay? 518 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 7: What? 519 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 4: Uh? 520 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: Okay, Well you said there were ups. What were the ups? 521 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 4: So, like, right before that, I had gone to a 522 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 4: breakup and well I hadn't met her, so that was 523 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 4: the up. 524 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 3: Hmm. 525 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 4: You're not. I've just been trying to grow more responsibly 526 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 4: as an adult. 527 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 3: Uh. 528 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel that. I think I think we're all 529 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: kind of trying to do that. How are you? How 530 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: old are you? 531 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: If you don't want me. 532 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 4: Asking, I'm twenty eight. 533 00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: Okay. 534 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,239 Speaker 2: So you said you're trying to grow more responsibly as 535 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 2: an adult as an adult? What and what way are 536 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: you trying to do that? 537 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 4: I guess just not victimize myself and not rely on 538 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 4: anybody for anything, and uh, show up to work when 539 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 4: I need to. That's it. 540 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Well why do you feel like you're you're 541 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: not showing up to work when you need to? 542 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 4: Because I don't because I don't have a car right now. 543 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 4: So I like I was showing up like an hour 544 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 4: late to work like every day for like a few months, 545 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 4: and uh now I'm just taking the bus mm hmmm. 546 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 4: And I guess around time, Okay, what do you do? 547 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 4: I kind of do like, ah, like would work? 548 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 3: You do? 549 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 2: Would work? 550 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 4: Yeah? 551 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 6: What? 552 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 4: Uh? 553 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: What kind of wood are we talking about? 554 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 4: It's like all kinds of was we just make? Like 555 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 4: luxury doors. 556 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: You make? You make? 557 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 2: Who's out here buying luxury doors? 558 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't know people in San Francisco a lot, 559 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 4: but it's like from everywhere, all customers crazy. They're expensive. 560 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: Is that something you would ever buy a luxury door? 561 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: I feel like if I have, if I have the 562 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: extra money to apply luxury to an item in my life, 563 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 2: I would pick something other than a door. 564 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 4: They're pretty cool doors they open like accordions. It's it's 565 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 4: kind of nice. 566 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So what are the what are the ups aside 567 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: from just meeting her? 568 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 4: Besides meeting her? Well, I got over my my ex 569 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 4: before that, and that I didn't think I'll ever do. 570 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 2: That was was it was, was meeting her kind of 571 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: like a big catalyst for getting over your X beforehand. 572 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, I didn't really notice how much it was 573 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 4: until honestly, kind of resa, so she broke up? 574 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: Why did Why did you feel like you would never 575 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: get over your ex? 576 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 4: Because I don't know. I think I loved her a lot. 577 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 4: It was probably just like the most serious relationship I've 578 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 4: ever been in. 579 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: M hm. 580 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 4: We just spent like almost every day together. 581 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: Why did you guys break up? 582 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 4: Oh? So I chew, dude, I chew you. 583 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 2: That mm hmm m hmm. What what was it that 584 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: made you cheat? Or you know, what was kind of 585 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: going through your mind? Uh when you were doing that? 586 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 4: Oh all right, it's like a long story. So like, 587 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 4: I don't know, I was just like honestly a piece 588 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 4: of shit at first, Like I just didn't care at 589 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 4: all about like about the relationship, and then I don't know, 590 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 4: so like I had cheated on her at some point 591 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 4: and then I told her, and then we broke up. 592 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 4: We took a break, and in that break, she she 593 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 4: met some other people and hooked up. I guess. So 594 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 4: we got back together, and uh, like we like we 595 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 4: hooked up the day we got back together, and then 596 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 4: the next day. 597 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,719 Speaker 8: She told me she hooked up with other people, and 598 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 8: so we had like a big fight, but we got 599 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 8: back together, and so like I was just mad for 600 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 8: like like a solid. 601 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 4: A year and a half about it. Like I don't know, 602 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 4: I guess I just wanted to cheat on his back. 603 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: And so wait, So so you cheated on her first, 604 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 2: or she you guys took a break. Okay, all right, 605 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: So you cheated on her first, and then you guys 606 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 2: took a break, and then she hooked up with other 607 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 2: people during the break and that made you upset, and 608 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,239 Speaker 2: so you wanted to kind of hook up with other 609 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 2: people again. Yeah, basically okay. 610 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: So and how long ago was all this? 611 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 4: Oh man? It was like the beginning of last year. 612 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: Okay. 613 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: And in your like lamenting you said, you said that 614 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: this was kind of a thing you thought you would 615 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: never get over. And in the in the dwelling of it. Ah, 616 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 2: you know, what were you Did you come to any 617 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 2: like realizations, Did you come to any thoughts or feelings 618 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: in a in a in a retrospective about that situation? 619 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, definitely. Well I just feel like I should 620 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 4: have Well, I was just thinking wrong the whole time, 621 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 4: the beginning part of the relationship, and I just wish 622 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 4: I knew the things I know now basically. 623 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm mm hmm. What tell me what you know now? 624 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 4: I don't know. I guess if someone's putting that much time, 625 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 4: then they really do love you, And I don't think 626 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 4: they want to ruin that on purpose m hm hm, 627 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 4: just to show more affection and care because I was 628 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 4: really I was kind of mean all the main boyfriend. 629 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 2: I think, Hm, why why do you feel like you 630 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: were mean? 631 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 4: Well? I have like this thing. I don't know. I 632 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 4: just don't like to be touched a lot, and like 633 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 4: I want to let my ex touch me a lot, 634 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 4: like when we cuddle, Like hell yeah, you know, like 635 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 4: I don't I would be smoking she started touching Me'd 636 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 4: be like I want to be touched right now. M 637 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 4: h stuff like that, like the little things you know, 638 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 4: next saying like you were should like up. 639 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: Okay, all right? 640 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: So this ended and then you kind of had this 641 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: realization that I don't know, you had like a kind 642 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 2: of re organization of your character. And then you decided 643 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 2: how long ago did you How long was it between 644 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: the end of that one and the beginning of a 645 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: new one, the one that you the real you just 646 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: broke up with? 647 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 3: All right? 648 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 4: So we and my first X we stopped talking in 649 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 4: September before her birthday because I had asked her because 650 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 4: like we're still talking for like months after we broke up, 651 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 4: like probably like nine months I think, and then we're 652 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 4: just talking like I I've probably seen her like like 653 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 4: a big handful of times. And then towards the end, 654 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 4: like we weren't really seeing each other at all, but 655 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,439 Speaker 4: just texting like every day. Yeah, and then at the end, 656 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 4: like she was literally texting me that much. And asked 657 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 4: her if she still wanted to keep talking to me 658 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 4: or she wanted to keep trying to fix this, and 659 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 4: she just told me that she had hooked up with people, and. 660 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 3: I just. 661 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 4: I just stopped completely replying to everything. 662 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 2: Wait, so she so she told you she was hooking up? 663 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: So was she cheating on you? 664 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 4: Well, we weren't really together. 665 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so you were taught you were You said 666 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 2: you were with this most recent girl for five months though, 667 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 2: so you weren't really together with her. 668 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 4: But I'm confused the story. 669 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 2: I'm a little confused too. Uh maybe I wasn't listening 670 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 2: hard enough, but hm hmmm mm hmmm. 671 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 4: All right, So me and my first girlfriend we broke 672 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 4: up and we're talking for like a solid ninety months, 673 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 4: and then she told me that she hooked other people, 674 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 4: and so I just pretty much ghosted her after that, 675 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 4: and uh I pretty much met my new girlfriend like 676 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:25,919 Speaker 4: a few days later. 677 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 2: Yeah see yeah, yeah, So so after you kind of 678 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: had this like so, you know, you had this uh 679 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 2: relationship with this uh first girl that you don't look 680 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 2: back on too fondly. But then instead of like taking 681 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 2: at least a little bit of time to process that, 682 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 2: you went straight into a new relationship. 683 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 4: Yeah I did. 684 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 2: Why do you well, why do you feel like you 685 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 2: did that? 686 00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 3: Uh? 687 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 4: Well, because I was like lonely for those yeah yeah, 688 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 4: and well I just wasn't hanging out with anybody for thoseess, 689 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 4: I was just talking to my ex and. 690 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: I really want to do you do you have friends? 691 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 4: No, honestly, like I do, but like I see my 692 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 4: friends rarely. 693 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 2: Mm hm hm hm. 694 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 6: M hmmm. 695 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 2: Well look, I mean I have a few thoughts, you know. 696 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, look, man, I feel like you 697 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 2: might benefit from a little bit of time just to 698 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 2: yourself too, like, uh, you know, work on yourself and 699 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 2: work on uh this loneliness because I found that, like, 700 00:36:55,360 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 2: you know, if you if you're unhappy and lonely when 701 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 2: you don't have a relationship, a relationship is not really 702 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 2: gonna fix that. You know, those are kind of like, 703 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 2: at least in my experience, you know, I've had lots 704 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 2: of times like that where I was, I was really lonely, 705 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 2: and you know, sort of felt like a relationship was 706 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 2: the thing that was gonna, you know, make make my. 707 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: Life so much better. 708 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: And I think the pursuit of that and the obsession 709 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 2: over that, you know, it didn't do me any favors. 710 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 2: And I feel like if if you were to redirect 711 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 2: the the energy that you're spending really you know, trying 712 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 2: so hard to not be alone, to like go into 713 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 2: your own brain and figure out why you're doing whatever 714 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 2: it is you're doing, and uh, you know, figure out 715 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 2: more about you as a person alone attached to anyone, 716 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 2: you know, and however long that takes man, whether it's 717 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 2: you know, uh one year or five years or whatever. 718 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 2: You know, I think I think you'll come back, uh, 719 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 2: you know, a different person, a little bit better equipped 720 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 2: to to be in a relationship and you know, uh 721 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 2: not kind of be in this relationship because it's because 722 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 2: it's it's it's externally satisfying. You're trying to satisfy some 723 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 2: internal desire with something external. You know. 724 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes. 725 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 4: Sense, it does. I've been thinking about that a lot. 726 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 2: Later, Okay, so you can think what tell me what 727 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 2: you tell me? What conclusion you've come to about that? 728 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 4: About about what exactly? 729 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 2: Sorry, well you said you've been thinking about it a lot. 730 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 2: What do you What conclusions have you come to or 731 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 2: thoughts have you been having? 732 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I just want to find out kind of 733 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 4: who I am. Again, I haven't been single for like 734 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 4: five years maybe or more. 735 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 2: You haven't been single for five years? 736 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess I don't even remember 737 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 4: the stuff I could do. I like to the guitar 738 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 4: a lot. 739 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 1: M hm, what's your name again? 740 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 4: Adrian? 741 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 2: Adrian? Well, Adrian, listen, fucking take care of yourself, man, 742 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 2: do if you haven't been single for five years, I 743 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 2: feel like you have uh uh some some interest, some 744 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 2: an interesting opportunity to dive into your own brain and 745 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 2: maybe you'll emerge a little bit better. 746 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 747 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the 748 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: people of the computer. 749 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 2: Before we go? 750 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 4: Uh? I love each other. 751 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 2: Thank you very much for calling Adrian? 752 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 4: All right? Thanks le bye? 753 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 2: Take care man, take care. 754 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 4: Hello. 755 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 5: This is Ty. How are you doing? 756 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 2: I'm doing good, Tai? 757 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: What's up? 758 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 2: Man? How you doing? 759 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 5: You know what's going? This is actually the first time 760 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 5: I've gotten on here, and I've been calling for a 761 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 5: while and listening for a better part of a here. 762 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 2: Oh really, well, thanks man, I appreciate that here we 763 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 2: are here, we are Yeah, man, Ty, I like that name. 764 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 2: That's a cool name. How do you spell it? Uh? 765 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 5: T a I the Chinese way? But my parents are 766 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 5: very white and so am I? 767 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 2: Well? 768 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:50,240 Speaker 1: Tie? 769 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 2: I mean is there? I'll start with this. It's okay. 770 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 2: If not. Is there anything in particular that you called 771 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 2: in to want to talk about today? 772 00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 3: Uh? 773 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 5: Not really, man, I just wanted to get in a 774 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 5: chat with you and just talk about whatever. I don't 775 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 5: know if there's a specific prompt this time around. But 776 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 5: you know, I was actually the one who commented about 777 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 5: Sonic Heroes in the chat earlier. 778 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 2: Oh you commented about Yes, somebody commented have I ever 779 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 2: played Sonic Heroes? And I replied by saying that I have. 780 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 2: It's a great game. Have you played it? 781 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 5: You know? I did growing up on the old school 782 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 5: Xbox that played a lot of that, in the old 783 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 5: Star Wars nice, the Old Republic game. I don't know 784 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 5: if you ever dabbled. 785 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,919 Speaker 2: I'm familiar with it, but I've never really dabbled in it. 786 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 5: Pretty good. 787 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 2: I remember when I so Sonic Heroes is about, Uh, 788 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 2: it's you play as teams of three of the Sonic characters, 789 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 2: and each each team is comprised of a speed character, 790 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 2: a power character, and a flying character. And when I 791 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 2: was a kid and I was playing that game, I 792 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 2: would imagine, like if my friends and I were were 793 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 2: in the Sonic Heroes game, and what roles we would play. 794 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 2: I was always a bigger kid, so I was the 795 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 2: power even though I wasn't strong. 796 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: I was just kind of fat. 797 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 2: And then I'd have a friend who was fast, he'd 798 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,760 Speaker 2: be the speed guy. And then I guess that we'd 799 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 2: pick some kid to be the fly guy, even though 800 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 2: it didn't make sense because he couldn't fly. He tried, 801 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,879 Speaker 2: but it didn't work because it's it's all, it's all imaginary. 802 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 2: But yeah, I like that game. I haven't play. I 803 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 2: haven't played really any of the Sonic games since. 804 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, neither have I, man, And to be honest, I 805 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 5: was never a huge fan of Sonic. But I was 806 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,240 Speaker 5: just thinking about, like, you know, childhood games and stuff 807 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 5: that I used to play, and you were talking about 808 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 5: Nintendo earlier and between that, I played a lot of 809 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 5: the Lego Star Wars games too, Man, I don't know 810 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 5: if you played like Bog two trilogies or whatever. Those 811 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 5: were sut of fun. Other than that, though, Man, I 812 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 5: guess I do actually have something that just came out. 813 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 5: My best friend is moving across the country next month, 814 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 5: and I'm really bummed out about it. 815 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: Man, where are they moving to? 816 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 5: He's moving to Miami. 817 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 2: Okay, and where are you at? 818 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 5: I'm in Wisconsin. 819 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 1: What are they moving for? 820 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 5: Oh? So he just got a job for a really 821 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 5: good tech company. He graduated with a computer or he's 822 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 5: going to graduate a computer science degree this spring and yeah, 823 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 5: he's really well set up and everything, and it just 824 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 5: kind of sucks, you know, because we just got super 825 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,399 Speaker 5: close and we listened to a lot of the same 826 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 5: music and everything, and I don't know, he's just like 827 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 5: the biggest part of my support network, i'd say, and 828 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 5: it's just kind of that sum go. 829 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: Hmm, yeah, tell me about the rest of your support network. 830 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 5: Well, that's actually another funny story because my parents, who 831 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 5: I tend to talk to you quite a bit for 832 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 5: like life advice and stuff, are actually moving out of 833 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 5: the country in May as well. So yeah, they're going 834 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 5: and then uh yeah, I don't know. I'm just trying 835 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 5: to I think the best thing for me to do 836 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 5: right now is just making friends and try to kind 837 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 5: of build up a support network that way. But it 838 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 5: just kind of sucks because, you know, it was like 839 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 5: the last four years of my life, I've spent with 840 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 5: a lot of these people, and now we're all kind 841 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:36,879 Speaker 5: of going our separate ways. 842 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 2: Huh yeah, hmmm. I feel like, yeah, I feel like 843 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 2: that is a good opportunity to make new friends. Trying 844 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 2: to think what else that's good. That's good about your 845 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 2: parents though, because like I get it when your parents 846 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 2: are a big party of support system, and you don't 847 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 2: want them to leave. But there's also a part of 848 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 2: you that I think should be really happy for them 849 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 2: that they're like do and shit, you know what I'm saying. 850 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 2: Like lots of people's parents just stay. Lots of people's 851 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 2: parents have kids and then don't ever do anything else 852 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 2: again with their lives. So just a lot of them, 853 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 2: you know, do it on purpose because they like it 854 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 2: that way. But I feel like there's room for you 855 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 2: to be uh, you know, I guess happy for your 856 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 2: parents that they're like trying to do shit with their lives. 857 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 2: You know, like if my mom, if my mom told 858 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 2: me that she was moving out of my hometown to go, 859 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 2: uh you know, live in in in Taiwan for the 860 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 2: rest of her life, and you know, I ple plea 861 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 2: you know, pledge allegiance to some god that she discovered, 862 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 2: I'd be like, all right, well that's a bummer. I'm 863 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 2: not gonna be able to see as often. But do you 864 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 2: you know, we're only alive for like two seconds. Might 865 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,919 Speaker 2: as well be happy that the people we care about 866 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 2: are doing good things with their lives. 867 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 5: All right, No, absolutely, I'm really excited for them because 868 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,399 Speaker 5: they're actually moving to an island in the Caribbean out 869 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 5: of all places. I know it's insane, but I think 870 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 5: the thing that I'm most worried about isn't even for 871 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 5: myself necessarily as far as like losing them, but for 872 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 5: my younger sister, because she's still like just kind of 873 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 5: starting college. She's about to finish her freshman year, and 874 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 5: I'll be like the closest relative to her, So if 875 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 5: something were to happen to her, you know, I'd be 876 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 5: like most responsible, which is insane to me because like, 877 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 5: I'm only twenty two. 878 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 2: So what are you afraid is going to happen to 879 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:25,320 Speaker 2: your sister? 880 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 5: Man, Well, she lives in a pretty big city at 881 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 5: the moment, and I don't know. I mean, she's just 882 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 5: an eighteen year old girl living in a city kind 883 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 5: of on her own, far away from her parents. So 884 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 5: of course, you know, it's just kind of the big 885 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 5: brother part of me that kind of worries for her. 886 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 5: I don't know. I certainly hope nothing happens to her, 887 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 5: but something does. You know, it's on me basically to 888 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 5: kind of drop everything just make sure she's all right. 889 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 2: What is and she's in the same city as you are. 890 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 5: No, she's about i'd say, like one hundred and fifty 891 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 5: miles south. 892 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 2: Oh all right, I mean all right, so she might 893 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,399 Speaker 2: as well live in Japan. That's like a whole other 894 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 2: place from you. 895 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much. 896 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: All right. 897 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 2: Well, I mean if that's commendable that you have that 898 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 2: you know, instinct for her, that's nice. Yeah, I mean, 899 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 2: I mean, look, she's alway, was she in college? 900 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, she just started uh this past fall here, all right. 901 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 2: I mean again with this whole I feel like theme 902 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 2: of this conversation, like you should be excited for her. 903 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 2: She's I mean, yeah, it's probably I mean it scary 904 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 2: being you know, freshly graduating high school, moving to a 905 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 2: whole different place. But that's part of I'm glad she's 906 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 2: doing that instead of again, uh, you know, sitting at 907 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 2: home and not doing anything or challenging herself in any way. 908 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 3: You know. 909 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's fair. I completely understand that too, I know. 910 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 5: And don't get me wrong, super happy for I'm just 911 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, like, if something bad were to happen 912 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 5: and beyond me, but now she's a super bright kid 913 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 5: and she'll be all right, I don't feel fear very 914 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 5: much for her at all. I think she's actually gonna 915 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 5: do uh, pretty great things. 916 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,359 Speaker 2: I think you're a super bright kid. I think you're 917 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 2: going to be all right. 918 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 5: You know what you two? 919 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 3: Man? 920 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:21,800 Speaker 5: I think you're doing alright. 921 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:28,240 Speaker 2: Ah fucking hope, man. Goddamn what what's your name again? 922 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 5: I'm tie Ty? 923 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: What do you hope for the future? 924 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 2: Tie What do you? What do you want to do 925 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 2: for the rest of your existence on the earth. 926 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 5: Well, I'm about to finish my degree here, and hopefully 927 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 5: once I graduate, I want to move out of Wisconsin 928 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 5: because there's nothing here but cows and angry people. So 929 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 5: I think I'll probably move west and just try to 930 00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 5: do something in either like radio broadcasting producing or do 931 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 5: you like podcast production or something like that. I really 932 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 5: like the idea of kind of audio engineering or I 933 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 5: currently have a job as a camera operator right now 934 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 5: as well, so I feel like just kind of being 935 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,799 Speaker 5: behind the scenes on either like a podcast or like 936 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 5: any sort of like internet show or something would probably 937 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 5: be ideal for me. Once you graduating here? 938 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 2: What do you what are you on? 939 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 1: A camera operator for? 940 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:32,800 Speaker 2: Uh? 941 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 5: So for the current university, I attend my film while 942 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 5: they're athletic events for ESPN plus and uh yeah, so 943 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 5: I mean it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not like 944 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,360 Speaker 5: a huge sports guy, but it's really good resume builder 945 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 5: and I'm just trying to get anything I can at 946 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 5: the moment. 947 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 2: You know, you sound you sound like. 948 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 1: A good guy. 949 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 2: You sound like you're I don't know, I don't know 950 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,879 Speaker 2: how to put this, but I'm excited for you. 951 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,319 Speaker 5: I really appreciate that you have. 952 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 2: You have like you sound grounded. I don't know, I 953 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,280 Speaker 2: don't know how to say that, but maybe I maybe 954 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 2: that's what I mean. 955 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 5: No, I gotch man, and no, seriously, thank you. I 956 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 5: really appreciate it. 957 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 2: Huh are you willing? Are you willing to kill someone 958 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 2: for your sister? 959 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 3: Uh? That? 960 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 5: Uh? You know, it wouldn't be a first option, but 961 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 5: if it came down to it, Uh, you know, I 962 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 5: feels like life or death, then I think, you know, 963 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 5: I probably. 964 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 2: Somebody your your sister is walking down the streets of 965 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 2: this big city and she accidentally bumps into somebody while 966 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 2: she's walking and the person she bought, the person that 967 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 2: pupped into her doesn't say sorry, and so she asked 968 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 2: you to kill them? 969 00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 1: Do you do it? 970 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 3: Uh? 971 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 6: No? 972 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 5: But you know what if the person like was just 973 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,840 Speaker 5: carrying a vat of asset on him. And you know, 974 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 5: when she brushed that guy's shoulder or whatever, and his 975 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 5: clothes were made out of assid as you know normal 976 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 5: people's clothes are. I would uh, I would probably kill 977 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 5: him then because it probably just hert my sister. But 978 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,479 Speaker 5: you know, in any case, Yeah, I haven't seen the 979 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 5: beats in the chat. 980 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 2: So well, I'm glad that you've well, I'm glad to 981 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,959 Speaker 2: hear that you've thought of everything. Thank you for calling. 982 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,319 Speaker 2: Tell you have a rest of the night. Anything else 983 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 2: you want to say to the people of the computer 984 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:33,879 Speaker 2: before we. 985 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 5: Go, Uh, I would just say that, you know, watch 986 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 5: therapy Geck and check out his tour coming up here, 987 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 5: and uh yeah, buy some merchant in the store. 988 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 2: Bye, guys, take care. Man. 989 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, I'm doing good. 990 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:54,359 Speaker 3: How are you? 991 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm a gecko on the computer. Man, aren't we all? 992 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:02,800 Speaker 6: You know something? Geck? 993 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 2: Yeah? 994 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,399 Speaker 6: I feel like so. I called them before I had 995 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,839 Speaker 6: the one minute call at one point and I talked 996 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 6: to you about me suing my old job. 997 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 7: I was like, sure, Yeah, when when I get this 998 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 7: money from the settlement, I feel like I'm going to 999 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 7: have a lot of people coming up to me, the 1000 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 7: old friends that I haven't spoken to in years, asking 1001 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 7: me for financial help, you know, And I don't want 1002 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 7: that because I know I'm going to talk. 1003 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 6: About it a little bit. But I don't want these 1004 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 6: people to come up to me and ask me, Hey, 1005 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,360 Speaker 6: can you give me this? Can you give me that? 1006 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,400 Speaker 6: I have plans of what I want to do with 1007 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 6: the money. 1008 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so you are you sued your can you o 1009 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 2: refy for those who haven't, who have no idea what 1010 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,720 Speaker 2: I mean, start us from the beginning with no prior 1011 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 2: knowledge of any of this. 1012 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 6: All right, So in twenty twenty, when I started working, 1013 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 6: I was making like sixteen fifty an hour. It was amazing, 1014 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 6: getting like almost one thousand dollars paychecks every two weeks. 1015 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,840 Speaker 6: I was super happy with my job, super happy with 1016 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 6: customers and my managers and everybody. I had moved away 1017 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 6: from the state that I was living in and I 1018 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,279 Speaker 6: started working for the company in a different state. Right 1019 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 6: when I got out here, my manager told me, she 1020 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 6: said that the guys that work at the store either 1021 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,240 Speaker 6: quit or they're fired. 1022 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 4: And I didn't know what. 1023 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 2: That meant that but those are the only two ways 1024 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 2: to not have a job to leave the job. 1025 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, but it was it was a primarily female staff, 1026 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 6: so it was a very small amount of guys and 1027 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 6: the staff, you know. So she said specifically, the guys 1028 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 6: either quit or are fired. So I was like confused 1029 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 6: as to like what that meant. Maybe they weren't happy 1030 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,320 Speaker 6: in the job, you know. But I understood in a 1031 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 6: few months that it's because our boss tended to drop 1032 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 6: the hours of the guys and boost the hours of 1033 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 6: the girls so that they could have more time on 1034 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 6: the floor into the store. I decided I didn't want 1035 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,880 Speaker 6: to work at that store anymore and I wanted to transfer, 1036 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,800 Speaker 6: so I put in a transfer request and my boss 1037 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 6: wrote me up for being late because I lived like 1038 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 6: thirty minutes away from the store. He made it impossible 1039 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 6: for me to transfer for like six months straight. So 1040 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 6: I started picking up ships at other stores around the area. 1041 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,800 Speaker 6: And then eventually when he caught onto that, he called 1042 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,719 Speaker 6: those stores and told them not to let me work, okay, 1043 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 6: And I was very upse this because I was like, 1044 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 6: why aren't you letting me work? You know, this is 1045 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 6: a fair And then when I brought it up to him, 1046 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 6: he fired me and he told corporate he lied to corporate. 1047 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 6: He called corporate and lied to them and said that 1048 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 6: I was offering customers drugs in the drive through to 1049 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:23,360 Speaker 6: get me fired after months of me complaining that I 1050 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 6: wasn't getting enough hours and everything. And I had to 1051 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 6: have no complaints from anybody at the store, no customers, 1052 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:36,840 Speaker 6: no managers, no coworkers. You know, it was just him. 1053 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 6: So now that I'm suing them, my attorney had us 1054 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 6: set up a specific amount of money that I want, 1055 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,360 Speaker 6: and the money that I said was eighty thousand. I 1056 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 6: don't know if I'm going to get that exact amount. 1057 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,760 Speaker 6: I'm okay if I get less, if I get more, great, 1058 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 6: If I get that amount, amazing, you know. But I 1059 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 6: feel like when that money comes in, people are going 1060 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,840 Speaker 6: to start hitting me up, asking me for money, asking 1061 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,440 Speaker 6: me for help with different things. 1062 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 2: Okay, so let me stop you right there. For so 1063 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 2: we are severely putting our cart before the horse here. 1064 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,359 Speaker 2: You don't even have this money, and it's not even 1065 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 2: a guarantee that you will win this case at all. 1066 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's pretty much guaranteed because they is 1067 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,839 Speaker 6: a company that doesn't want to go to court, so 1068 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 6: they're more likely my attorney told me this that he's 1069 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,760 Speaker 6: worked with a lot of cases against the path. Okay, 1070 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 6: he says that they're a company that always wants to 1071 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,400 Speaker 6: settle out of court. If they can do anything to 1072 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 6: get this case done and over with as quick as possible, 1073 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 6: they will do it. 1074 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:53,960 Speaker 2: So okay, So he says, why, I have a few questions, 1075 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 2: Why do you why do you think your boss was 1076 00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,360 Speaker 2: antagonizing you so much for no reason? 1077 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 6: I honestly don't know. I mean I've I've brought I've 1078 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 6: tried to like bring it up to my coworkers about it, 1079 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,840 Speaker 6: and they've all said that he's always had something against 1080 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:16,600 Speaker 6: the guys in the store for no reason at all, seemingly. 1081 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 6: But I think that the final straw of the the 1082 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 6: the you know, me being antagonized at work is him 1083 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,200 Speaker 6: telling corporate that I was offering customers. 1084 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 2: Drugs And that's just a total out of your way 1085 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 2: to to get that happened. I mean, that's just a total, 1086 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 2: complete straight lie. 1087 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 1: Yes, fucking weird man. 1088 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 2: You don't have any idea why this guy doesn't like you, like, 1089 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 2: like that much enough to lie like that. 1090 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 6: No, I don't know. I mean, maybe me being laid 1091 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 6: a couple of times. But that doesn't really I don't 1092 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 6: think that's grounds. 1093 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 2: You know, he's probably was he I mean, he's probably 1094 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 2: just a sad guy. 1095 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 4: I maybe. 1096 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:08,920 Speaker 2: Bizarre. 1097 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:10,440 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1098 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 2: By the way, okay, listen, what do I think. I 1099 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 2: think if your friend asks you for ten thousand dollars 1100 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 2: you say. 1101 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 6: No, Yeah, that's that sounds like a good idea. 1102 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 2: Are you really, like, I mean, are you Are you 1103 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 2: really that concerned with your friends and family ask you 1104 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 2: for money? Like what I mean, what kind of people 1105 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 2: are in your circle so much that this is like 1106 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 2: a very serious, you know, thing that you're nervous about. 1107 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 6: I mean, I've known a lot of people that I 1108 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,240 Speaker 6: fear would be this way with money. And I've had 1109 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,840 Speaker 6: I've had people that I've had to like stop talking 1110 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 6: to because because they've asked for things that I cannot 1111 00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,120 Speaker 6: provide them. You know, people some people asking me texting me, 1112 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 6: hey do you have cash? App I'm broke, I need 1113 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 6: money this and nut. I don't want to give people money, 1114 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 6: you know, I'm just trying to pay the. 1115 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 2: Well, you don't have to. And by the way, you know, 1116 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 2: I mean, like, yeah, you don't have to give people 1117 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 2: money if you don't want to give them money, man. 1118 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,880 Speaker 2: And also, you know, I'm going to challenge you for this, 1119 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 2: all right. Look, hey, look if somebody is asking if 1120 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 2: somebody hears that you got a whatever thing and they 1121 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,920 Speaker 2: start asking you for a bunch of money and you 1122 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 2: thought they were your friends, I'm gonna challenge you. Look 1123 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,560 Speaker 2: at it as a good thing, all right, because it 1124 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 2: reveals you know about things about. 1125 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 4: The people that you're close with. 1126 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 2: It reveals the things about the people that you're close with. 1127 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 2: So in that sense, it can be a blessing, right 1128 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 2: because you you now have more information about the people 1129 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 2: that you you hold close and that can sometimes be positive. 1130 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 4: For sure. 1131 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 6: And you know what, people, my best friend, he's told 1132 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 6: me multiple times, I mean jokingly, he's told me that, oh, 1133 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 6: I'm gonna leach off of you now. But I know 1134 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 6: ha ha. 1135 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, oh, yeah, might actually be joking. 1136 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I don't want him to do that. I've 1137 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 6: known him for the past seven years. You know, I 1138 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 6: don't think he's that type of person. I strongly believe 1139 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 6: that he's not that type of person. But in the 1140 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 6: back of my mind there's that fear that he might 1141 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 6: be serious about that. 1142 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:40,440 Speaker 1: Here's what you do. 1143 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 2: If somebody ask you for money, you go, I earned 1144 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:47,000 Speaker 2: this money by selling drugs out of it, and if 1145 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 2: you want eighty thousand dollars you can go and do 1146 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 2: the same thing. 1147 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,280 Speaker 6: It's a pretty damn good advice. 1148 01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 5: Gick. 1149 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 2: Hey, listen, Andrew, Well, thanks for calling man. I hope 1150 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:00,520 Speaker 2: you get all your money, and I hope that you 1151 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 2: and your friends go have you know, fun, pinball pool 1152 01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,840 Speaker 2: parties with it. So anything else do you want to 1153 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,439 Speaker 2: say to the people of the computer before we go. 1154 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 6: Well, I hope you have a good day chat. I 1155 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 6: have to take out the trash. But don't let money 1156 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,800 Speaker 6: change you if you ever get any. 1157 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:24,520 Speaker 2: Take care, man, take care gek. They say money does 1158 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 2: not change a person, it merely reveals them. But I 1159 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 2: don't know if that's true, because if you get a 1160 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 2: really cool car, then maybe you'll be happier. That's how 1161 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 2: life works. I've learned that that's how the more the 1162 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 2: more stuff you can accumulate, the happier you will be. 1163 01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 2: This is proven by many psychologists on the line calls 1164 01:01:53,320 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 2: every nine teaching you can expect