Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty Armstrong and
Speaker 1: Petty and he.
Speaker 2: Arms wrong.
Speaker 1: From the studio. See see Senor. It's a dimly lit.
Speaker 3: Room deeper than the bowels, the Armstrong and Giddy Communications
Speaker 3: Compound and uh.
Speaker 1: Today on Tuesday, we're under the general manager. Triffs. Tarriffs
Speaker 1: are our general manager. And you gotta say it like that. Tariffs.
Speaker 3: Triffs are an exciting topic, you know, Oh boy they are.
Speaker 3: That was dripping with sarcasm. I was just thinking how
Speaker 3: in the olden days what happened in the last like
Speaker 3: dozen hours would be just such giant news. The United
Speaker 3: States laid twenty five percent tariffs on Mexico and Canada,
Speaker 3: our closest trading partners, and then a ten percent tariff
Speaker 3: on China, an additional ten percent tariff in China, and
Speaker 3: halted all funding the Ukraine, who we've been supporting for
Speaker 3: three years. Both of those stories are just enormous, But
Speaker 3: we're so used to giant ebbs and flows and everything
Speaker 3: like that, it just doesn't feel like it would have
Speaker 3: felt ten years ago.
Speaker 4: Right right, the pace and significance of the news generated
Speaker 4: by the new administration is just crazy, hard to take in,
Speaker 4: hard to comprehend, never mind to form a response or
Speaker 4: an attack against it, as the Democrats would love to. Michael,
Speaker 4: do you have our theme music that we play for everything?
Speaker 4: Welcome to Joe's provocative statement of the day. Joe's provocative
Speaker 4: statement of the day. The tariff moves will be the
Speaker 4: undoing of the Trump administration. Wow, this is the landmine
Speaker 4: they have laid that they are going to step upon.
Speaker 4: Economically speaking, So you wanted Kamla to win. That's intestable.
Speaker 1: Well played.
Speaker 4: He got me, checkmate. No, I wish with every fiber
Speaker 4: of me. I hope I'm wrong. I think what this
Speaker 4: is going to do to the economy, the stock market, inflation,
Speaker 4: working class people's lives ain't gonna be good. And again,
Speaker 4: I hope I'm wrong. I'm having a lot of trouble
Speaker 4: finding anybody of any you know, significant haft intelligence who disagrees.
Speaker 3: Well, the idea, right is that it doesn't last very
Speaker 3: long that countries realize.
Speaker 1: Wow, they're serious.
Speaker 3: So he's serious, really, And it's a dentistring argument around
Speaker 3: whether or not. And it seems like not to me
Speaker 3: that any president should have the power to do this
Speaker 3: sort of thing on his own, just an individual move.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's really it's tacks. It's a heck of
Speaker 3: a thing. But according to the law, there has to
Speaker 3: be a national emergency. But as we've seen throughout COVID, painfully,
Speaker 3: executives at various levels apparently have the right to declare
Speaker 3: their own emergencies, sometimes on a fairly skinny pretext.
Speaker 1: No, that's right.
Speaker 3: Why he keeps mentioning fentanyl from China and Mexico and
Speaker 3: all and coming across the Canadian mortar and that sort
Speaker 3: of thing, because that's the emergency.
Speaker 1: It's the drug thing, which is an emergency. I just
Speaker 1: don't know if it fits in with this.
Speaker 3: But anyway, that aside, this is what's happening, and the
Speaker 3: hope is that these countries, particularly Mexico and Canada China
Speaker 3: is a different situation as they are are. Me, well, say, wow,
Speaker 3: he's serious, He's actually going to do this. And then
Speaker 3: there I heard this morning. It's either talk of or
Speaker 3: it's already decided that Honda's going to stop making the
Speaker 3: civic in Mexico and start making it in Indiana, for instance,
Speaker 3: that sort of thing will start happening, and enough of
Speaker 3: that will happen, then okay, we can take the tariffs
Speaker 3: off now, or lower them or however that works in
Speaker 3: the negotiation. Then it's not you know, permanent going forward. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that would please me, That would be great.
Speaker 4: My concern is that, and this is a little complicated
Speaker 4: because they're as Jack indicated, you got our allies and
Speaker 4: friends and neighbors, then you got China.
Speaker 1: Just you got to put China over there with tear.
Speaker 4: If the crap out of them, we shouldn't do anything
Speaker 4: to help China, and if we have to, you know,
Speaker 4: suffer a little bit at the cash register. Again, not
Speaker 4: popular politically, but I get that completely. The problem I
Speaker 4: see with the like Canada and Mexico thing is there
Speaker 4: are a few that can make that move fairly quickly.
Speaker 4: It will be temporary until the moment somebody else comes
Speaker 4: into power, and so those that can make them move
Speaker 4: fairly quickly and fairly efficiently, like a big automaker, that'll
Speaker 4: go pretty well. But the idea that the tariffs are
Speaker 4: going to revive American manufacturing, if I'm a manufacturer would
Speaker 4: be manufacturer. I'm thinking Trump's got three and a half
Speaker 4: years left in office. These policies are are unprecedented and
Speaker 4: not popular among you know, pro business people, congress people's senators,
Speaker 4: the rest of it. They're all shutting their mouths out
Speaker 4: of loyalty and or fear of Trump right now. But
Speaker 4: it's the odds are very, very good it doesn't last
Speaker 4: more than three and a half years. So I'm not
Speaker 4: going to spend three and a quarter years building a
Speaker 4: plant and investing millions or even more tens of millions
Speaker 4: of dollars if then the you know, the realities are
Speaker 4: trade including tariffs change.
Speaker 1: Completely at the end of that.
Speaker 4: So I just don't know how effective this could be
Speaker 4: in on shoring American manufacturing.
Speaker 1: I'd love for it to be in a long term way.
Speaker 1: I'm just skeptical.
Speaker 3: Some Republican congressman just introduced the Golden Age Act, which
Speaker 3: would put President Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: On the one hundred dollars bill. And you wanted to
Speaker 1: announce that very reasonable for a sitting president.
Speaker 4: Yes, not at all, the sort of act that normally
Speaker 4: takes place behind closed doors. And he wants this ole guy,
Speaker 4: he doesn't need you to do that to him.
Speaker 1: Oh geez. He wanted to announce that on the day.
Speaker 3: Because Trump addresses both Houses of Congress tonight, it will
Speaker 3: look like a State of the Union address more or
Speaker 3: less is and the State of the Union addresses aren't
Speaker 3: State of the Union addresses, so quit telling me. It's
Speaker 3: not actually a State of the Union dress, neither of
Speaker 3: the State of Union dress.
Speaker 1: So what does that even mean? Exactly?
Speaker 3: So, so he's going to address both Houses of Congress,
Speaker 3: and Congress people are in theory Democrats going to bring
Speaker 3: out of work government workers who doge has ruined their.
Speaker 1: Lives, and they're going to be scattered throughout the chamber. Yes, Michael,
Speaker 1: do you think they'll be wearing like old clothes and
Speaker 1: look really poor, right, you know?
Speaker 3: Or just like yeah, rags, barrels, unshaven, little stub of
Speaker 3: a cigar, maybe munching hungrily on a crust of bread.
Speaker 3: Put their shoes up on the chairs so you can
Speaker 3: see that the bottom of holes in them.
Speaker 1: So not to jump in if you had a comment
Speaker 1: on that, but it's funny.
Speaker 4: One of our beloved listeners just sent us a link
Speaker 4: to a sketch from twenty ten from Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 4: The Government employee, The annual government employee Awards for twenty ten.
Speaker 4: I remember that, and we're gonna work on editing it
Speaker 4: and bring it. It was very funny, yeah, and pretty long,
Speaker 4: but anyway, but the point of it obviously is, you know,
Speaker 4: they're curly, they don't have to do anything, they're lazy,
Speaker 4: and that's of course not true of all government workers,
Speaker 4: but that is the popular perception. So trying to like
Speaker 4: build a narrative of national woe and disgust that the
Speaker 4: federal workforce was cut back.
Speaker 1: Good luck Bill in.
Speaker 3: That narrative, right, right, Yeah, with your point being that
Speaker 3: if it was it was fertile ground for Saturday Night
Speaker 3: Lives audience, it certainly is fertile ground for the rest
Speaker 3: of the country, right, and mock the government worker.
Speaker 1: We should start speaking of that.
Speaker 3: We should start the show officially before we get into trouble.
Speaker 3: I'm Jack Armstrong, He's Joe Getty on this. It is Tuesday,
Speaker 3: March fourth, the year twenty twenty five, or Armstrong.
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Speaker 4: Okay, let's begin then officially according to FCC rules and regulations,
Speaker 4: here we go at Mark or lefties singing anthems to
Speaker 4: something or other to change vines or something.
Speaker 1: Well, what was that group? What are they protesting? Or
Speaker 1: matt about her? They're anti dogists?
Speaker 3: This joy I have, the world didn't give it to me.
Speaker 3: What's I got to do with doje? I'm just not
Speaker 3: following here? No, well, what is what's to follow?
Speaker 4: I don't They're just it's not as good as some
Speaker 4: of the other protest songs like that.
Speaker 1: Which side are you on? That was a good one.
Speaker 2: Which side are you on?
Speaker 1: Which side are you on? Which itself? We couldn't hold
Speaker 1: a candle. There's a hole of the sky, well the
Speaker 1: tree once was.
Speaker 4: But it's you know, protests singing. It's part of the
Speaker 4: great tradition. Jack Pete, seeger what he got three some
Speaker 4: other people?
Speaker 3: You know the story. You know the story. We got
Speaker 3: Katie's headlines on the way some mail bag. Yeah uh.
Speaker 3: And we stopped all aid to Ukraine yesterday Trump announced.
Speaker 1: That's that. None of that. I was watching that. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: More on that to come, but I was watching the
Speaker 4: tedious news this last night, feeling my joy speaking of
Speaker 4: joy being sucked out of me moment by moment by
Speaker 4: watching that, and one of the news is had some
Speaker 4: lefties chanting about something or other they were angry about it.
Speaker 1: I don't recall what.
Speaker 5: I was sitting there thinking, when was the last time
Speaker 5: anybody was convinced of anything by a group of people
Speaker 5: chanting walking by and thinking, Wow, they're all repeating the
Speaker 5: same thing in unison. I need to think seriously about that.
Speaker 1: That hole in the side where the tree.
Speaker 4: Once was, somebody's making money, A.
Speaker 2: Hole in the sky where the tree once was, somebody's
Speaker 2: making money.
Speaker 3: All right, Um, that's a good point, though, when was
Speaker 3: somebody convinced by a chant mom away fools?
Speaker 1: What they're arguing for rhymes, so they make a good point.
Speaker 3: We've got Katie's headlines next day here, Artie. I'm more
Speaker 3: concerned about a lot of the foreign policy stuff than
Speaker 3: inflation currently personally, but that's not what the polls show.
Speaker 3: We didn't talk about this yesterday. CBS had some pulling
Speaker 3: out over the weekend. People are still by far mostly
Speaker 3: concerned about the economy and inflation, but feel that the
Speaker 3: Trump administration is that is not their focus. Which you know,
Speaker 3: you're predicting various things that could be trouble for Trump.
Speaker 3: I think that one's going to be a problem for
Speaker 3: Trump if if people's perception is the main thing in
Speaker 3: my life is inflation and your main thing is Ukraine border, tariffs,
Speaker 3: various things that just that political divide will be a problem.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I left that out of my analysis and one
Speaker 4: I call it my my shocking statement of the day, whatever.
Speaker 1: Was that's incredibly important to people.
Speaker 4: And I've come across some accounts in conservative media of
Speaker 4: parts of the country that are heavily Trump but are
Speaker 4: really really struggling with inflation and economic issues. And they also,
Speaker 4: you know, part of it that they perceive the main
Speaker 4: goals right now are the border and foreign policy and
Speaker 4: that sort of thing, But part of it's just no
Speaker 4: matter what they perceive, they are still struggling financially and
Speaker 4: haven't seen anything done for them. And that's why I
Speaker 4: think if the tariff thing doesn't work like just right
Speaker 4: the way you're describing it, it could be a huge
Speaker 4: negative right in the pocketbook for Trump's base.
Speaker 1: And again I'm not rooting for this.
Speaker 4: That just I see it coming down the line and
Speaker 4: I wonder if it's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Well, that'll be fun.
Speaker 4: Let's figure out who's reporting what it's lead story with
Speaker 4: Katie Green.
Speaker 2: Katie, thank you, guys, starting with the free beacon Honda
Speaker 2: to move production to the United States ahead of Trump's
Speaker 2: Mexican tariffs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3: That was a move they definitely wanted to have in
Speaker 3: the headlines, coinciding with the announcement and tonight's speech.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll have to see. It's interesting.
Speaker 4: I read a big giant piece I almost brought it
Speaker 4: to the show about when Apple announced what was it,
Speaker 4: five hundred billion dollars in new investments in America. A
Speaker 4: lot of that stuff was pre planned. Just repackage it
Speaker 4: and kind of move the parentheses over here in the
Speaker 4: timeline over there. It happens every administration to curry favor.
Speaker 4: So some of that stuff, including this might be a
Speaker 4: little overstated.
Speaker 1: Don't know. I have to wait and see.
Speaker 4: From the Independent again, So you'll wanted Kamla to win. Wow, exactly,
Speaker 4: I hear genius would have saved the union.
Speaker 1: That's my point.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, from the Independent, Trump military aid cut will
Speaker 2: hit Ukraine's frontline fight against Putin's forces within days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a heck of a thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, it went from and it was ridiculous for
Speaker 3: Biden to keep saying We're with you to the end
Speaker 3: to the end. Okay, that's that's fantastic, But what do
Speaker 3: you actually mean will be with you till the end?
Speaker 3: Now we're cutting off all support.
Speaker 1: How is this going to turn out? Well?
Speaker 3: Ian Bremer put up a video last night on his
Speaker 3: website with some real politic about Europe that I thought
Speaker 3: was damned interesting.
Speaker 1: We need to get to maybe this power.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Zelensky's diplomatic f up will be seen
Speaker 4: as one of the most.
Speaker 1: Historic ones of those ever.
Speaker 4: And those blaming Zelensky for the blow up in the
Speaker 4: Oval Office, they've got a hell of a good case.
Speaker 4: I think what's underrated is that meeting with Democrats right
Speaker 4: before he went to the White House, which was put
Speaker 4: out in on social media by the Democrats saying we've
Speaker 4: advised Zolensky to give Trump the finger. He showed up
Speaker 4: in his not a suit and gave Trump the finger
Speaker 4: more or less, and Trump was ready for it and
Speaker 4: already pissed off.
Speaker 2: Oh Man from ABC News families of North Korean troops
Speaker 2: captured in Russia will be executed. They're saying that the
Speaker 2: soldiers that are fighting for Russia from North Korea will
Speaker 2: kill themselves before they get captured because if there's any
Speaker 2: thought that they might have given information Russia, their family's
Speaker 2: gonna get it back.
Speaker 1: In North Korea, what a horrible, horrible country.
Speaker 4: Well, and some of the guys were literally they were
Speaker 4: unable to move or run or grab their gun.
Speaker 1: They're so badly injured.
Speaker 4: But nonetheless, as a message to the other North Korean troops,
Speaker 4: Kim Jong un is going to execute their entire family,
Speaker 4: just to make the point North Koreans.
Speaker 1: Thing to do. Unbelievable that that can exist on the planet.
Speaker 2: From Reuters, car plows into German city, killing car plows
Speaker 2: into crowd. Excuse me, in German city, killing two.
Speaker 1: And was this on purpose or anything?
Speaker 2: Do we know they're investigating if it was an attack?
Speaker 1: Okay, it's almost certainly yet another. I think this is
Speaker 1: the third in the space of what a month jihadi
Speaker 1: attack in Germany. From Breitbart dot Com.
Speaker 2: Real time AI voice tech will make Indian call center
Speaker 2: workers sound American.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: If I can understand them. Yeah, if it makes me,
Speaker 3: it makes it easier to understand. Did you hear this
Speaker 3: is a bit of a controversy. We'll talk about it
Speaker 3: more later. Adrian Brody wins Best actor partially for his
Speaker 3: unbelievable Hungarian accent that he does in the movie apparently,
Speaker 3: and they used AI to make his accent better throughout
Speaker 3: the film. And so that's become a big controversy, very
Speaker 3: controversy leading up to the oscars.
Speaker 2: Jack from The Guardian, more than half of adults worldwide
Speaker 2: will be overweight or obese by twenty fifty.
Speaker 3: Hey, Usa, USA, We've spread it around the world, so
Speaker 3: half the world to be obese.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And finally from the Babylon b Trump hangs up sign
Speaker 2: in White House that says you must be this tall
Speaker 2: to receive foreign aid.
Speaker 1: I saw that.
Speaker 4: You know what the weekly world news headline or the
Speaker 4: sun would be with this much obesity. Scientists are concerned
Speaker 4: that the the Earth's orbit will slow, leading to twenty
Speaker 4: five hour days.
Speaker 2: We're weighing it down.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, my god. We can't drag our ass
Speaker 3: around the Sun anymore. Right, the Earth has gotten too heavy.
Speaker 1: Even the ability scooter. Yeah, years will be three hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy one days. More news on the way, stay here,
Speaker 1: armstrong and getdy.
Speaker 6: Ukrainian president of Lazzolenski was criticized for what he woarded
Speaker 6: the White House meeting on Friday.
Speaker 7: But in his defense, most suits his size come with
Speaker 7: a sailor hat and a giant lollipop.
Speaker 1: I believe Gutfell's a man of smaller stature himself. Is
Speaker 1: he not making a short joke? Okay?
Speaker 4: I just find the he's a shorter fellow shots to
Speaker 4: be a little dumb.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: I'd rather not base our foreign policy on height or
Speaker 3: whether or not you wear your suit. But I understand, uh,
Speaker 3: I understand some of the issues around that, Yes, Katie, Uh.
Speaker 1: Not that it matters. He's five or five okay, a
Speaker 1: little guy, is that right? And it is fairly small. Okay.
Speaker 1: I don't know how we got into the heights.
Speaker 4: Very absolutely no significance, no at all, No, absolutely not
Speaker 4: any way.
Speaker 3: So, just to fill out this conversation a little bit,
Speaker 3: what led to Trump cutting off all aid to Ukraine yesterday,
Speaker 3: which I know some of you are happy about.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 3: Uh. Zelensky in Europe, asked about the war ending soon
Speaker 3: in a peace deal, said it's the war's going to
Speaker 3: go on for a long long time.
Speaker 1: Trump did not like that. Responded to that yesterday in
Speaker 1: a press conference.
Speaker 7: President Zelensky supposedly made a satement today an AP. I'm
Speaker 7: not a big fan of AP, so maybe it was
Speaker 7: an incorrect sament. But he said he thinks there was
Speaker 7: gonna go on for a long time, and he'd.
Speaker 1: Better not be right about that. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Trump goes on to say, basically, you'd better
Speaker 3: not be right about that, because we're not gonna aid
Speaker 3: him anymore. And if the war goes on for a
Speaker 3: long time, you know, like you said Friday in the
Speaker 3: Oval Office, you don't have any cards. Russia's you know,
Speaker 3: gonna overwhelm you. And I hope this doesn't end up
Speaker 3: with Russia taking key, even owning the whole country.
Speaker 4: But the more I see, the more I think Zelensky
Speaker 4: messed up on multiple levels and was responsible for the
Speaker 4: ugly tone of the meeting.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty convinced of that. Interesting.
Speaker 4: On the other hand, I'm told by Trump World it's
Speaker 4: soon he'll be super tough on Putin. And because right now,
Speaker 4: given especially the cutoff of arms, Putin is gonna the
Speaker 4: idea that this is gonna end the war is hilarious.
Speaker 4: Putin's gonna think, yes, we're gonna keep going, We're gonna
Speaker 4: keep grinding We're gonna keep taking land until they run
Speaker 4: out of ammunition.
Speaker 1: Then we're gonna take the entire country. The idea that
Speaker 1: this will end the war again, to me is just silly. Yeah.
Speaker 3: They got into a bit of a debate on Fox
Speaker 3: and Friends this morning, and I was watching as several
Speaker 3: of the people on the couch, We're talking about Elon
Speaker 3: should cut off the starlink if Zilency's going to be
Speaker 3: like this so they can't communicate, and Brian killed me.
Speaker 1: It is like what Russia will take Keevan two days
Speaker 1: if that happens. Is that what you want? And so yeah,
Speaker 1: it's this whole conversation is making my brain hurt. But
Speaker 1: just wrap this up a little bit.
Speaker 3: Ian Bremmer, who we've had on the show a lot,
Speaker 3: is only more of a globalist than I am, and
Speaker 3: and you know, worries more about making sure Europe's happy
Speaker 3: than I do. But he had this to say. This
Speaker 3: is around the idea, and I think this is part
Speaker 3: of what Trump's trying to force. This gets to the
Speaker 3: column from Ross Do thought of the New York Times
Speaker 3: that we read yesterday, where Ross and the New York
Speaker 3: Times basically saying Trump's getting rid of old pretenses that
Speaker 3: have been gone for a long time. The United States
Speaker 3: can't run the world like it used to the world
Speaker 3: has changed too much. Europe is not as powerful as
Speaker 3: they think they are, and they need to either step
Speaker 3: up or something. But you know, times are changing, and
Speaker 3: Ian talks about it here, which I thought was really interesting.
Speaker 6: What the Europeans have to now figure out is are
Speaker 6: they prepared to be courageous? Are they prepared to step
Speaker 6: up even though they're not in the most powerful position.
Speaker 6: Are they willing to do after three years, after frankly,
Speaker 6: eleven years since the Russians invaded Ukraine, the first time
Speaker 6: they've stood back.
Speaker 1: They've stood by.
Speaker 6: They haven't stood up for their fellow Europeans. They've allowed
Speaker 6: the Americans to do the heavy lifting. And now they
Speaker 6: have a president president that is not willing to do that,
Speaker 6: and frankly doesn't agree with them anymore, doesn't agree with
Speaker 6: their values, doesn't care about shared values, only cares about power.
Speaker 6: And so this is not a question for the Ukrainians.
Speaker 6: We know where the Ukrainians stand. They stand up. This
Speaker 6: is not a question for the Americans. We know where
Speaker 6: the Americans stand. They stand for themselves. This is a
Speaker 6: question for the Europeans. Are the Europeans willing to stay
Speaker 6: and up for themselves, for their principles, for their.
Speaker 1: Values and for fellow Europeans. And I fear the answer
Speaker 1: is no. How about that you can cut off there?
Speaker 1: How about that?
Speaker 3: I thought that I was surprising to me from Ian
Speaker 3: Bremmer to say, I mean, now, that's a pretty trumpy
Speaker 3: thing to say. Since twenty fourteen, the Europeans have stood
Speaker 3: by and watched and let America do the work when
Speaker 3: it's their freaking continent. Sure, and his prediction is they're
Speaker 3: not going to rise to the occasion if we step aside.
Speaker 1: What does that mean?
Speaker 4: Well, if you take a serious look at European domestic politics,
Speaker 4: I think he's right. It's just I mean, they try
Speaker 4: the slightest reform of their bloated socialist systems and their
Speaker 4: people go nuts. And we're talking about now a major
Speaker 4: rearrangement of national priorities for all the biggies in Europe.
Speaker 4: There's no way it goes through. One more quick thought.
Speaker 4: I was about to say, I agree with everything you
Speaker 4: and Ian Bremmer said. The only quipple I have is
Speaker 4: where he said Trump doesn't care about principles.
Speaker 1: All he cares about his power.
Speaker 4: I might halfway agree, but I would say to Ian, well,
Speaker 4: Trump also looks at the emperor's new cloesy nature of NATO,
Speaker 4: where those paper tigers in Europe, Well, they've donated a
Speaker 4: lot to Ukraine, for instance. They don't have that much
Speaker 4: in the way of arms. They have no arms in reserve,
Speaker 4: their armies are weak. And so the idea that we
Speaker 4: had this bold and strong alliance that we're abandoning. Know
Speaker 4: what Trump's saying is, no, we didn't. All we have
Speaker 4: is the expense of it being the sugar daddy for
Speaker 4: all of these countries. And that's got to change. Now
Speaker 4: what it changes into Donald j and I might disagree on,
Speaker 4: but he's right.
Speaker 1: Well that gets to the whole pretenses thing.
Speaker 3: So what Ian meant by all the United States cares
Speaker 3: about is power might always have been true.
Speaker 1: It's just I mean, you can say flowery things, but.
Speaker 3: Trying to put a democracy in Afghanistan because we want
Speaker 3: to spread democracy didn't work. Trying to spread you know,
Speaker 3: a Jeffersonian democracy in Iraq, trying to force that and
Speaker 3: it hasn't worked.
Speaker 1: And so maybe you just do what you can. What
Speaker 1: you have the power to do and that's all you
Speaker 1: can do.
Speaker 3: And you can say all kinds of nice things, but
Speaker 3: if you're not capable of doing it, I don't know
Speaker 3: do you get credit for saying that.
Speaker 1: I say, it's like the climate change argument.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and I was just thinking, I think it's
Speaker 4: true that we would much prefer democracy should they tend
Speaker 4: to be friendly to other democracy. It's just it's better
Speaker 4: for human beings. But there's a you know, there's a
Speaker 4: point at which that's no longer your highest priority. If
Speaker 4: the democracy of a you know, Central South American country
Speaker 4: for instance, and this was true throughout the twentieth century,
Speaker 4: if their quote unquote democracy is going to lead them
Speaker 4: to communism and totalitarianism, then we have stepped in many.
Speaker 1: Times and said, nah, we're not gonna let you go
Speaker 1: that way. Hey, you know, and often, you know, it's
Speaker 1: funny for a while.
Speaker 4: When liberal schools really you know, controlled the discussion of history,
Speaker 4: we would be taught at every single quote unquote right
Speaker 4: wing incursion and to say in Nicaragua was awful and
Speaker 4: bloody and we shouldn't have done it, and we should
Speaker 4: have let them, you know, chart their own future. Well,
Speaker 4: they ended up with horrific dictators. You know, Ortega and
Speaker 4: just the Sandinistas were scumbag communists, like all scumbag communists,
Speaker 4: and their countries are falling apart. They're racked with violence
Speaker 4: and gangs and poverty, and now they're exporting all their violent,
Speaker 4: poverty stricken gangs to the US. So, yes, we do
Speaker 4: have an interest in our own neighborhood. And then sometimes
Speaker 4: we got to flex our muscles. But before we get
Speaker 4: to mail bag.
Speaker 3: So if if Ian is right that the Europeans aren't
Speaker 3: gonna stand up, and if we cut off aid and say, hey,
Speaker 3: Zelenski a non wear and suit wear and midget, we
Speaker 3: ain't giving you anymore. And uh so Russia takes Kiev,
Speaker 3: takes Ukraine, and Europe does it. Lets it happen and
Speaker 3: and and it's you know, if Europe, I have been
Speaker 3: saying since the beginning, if Europe doesn't care, I don't
Speaker 3: know why we shouldn't necessarily care more than Europe does.
Speaker 3: I still think the US world order, being led by
Speaker 3: US has been, you know, a great benefit to us
Speaker 3: and continues to be a great benefit. And when it's gone,
Speaker 3: everybody's gonna really miss it. Our economic growth will go
Speaker 3: way down when China and controls a third or half
Speaker 3: of the world shipping lanes and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: All that stuff goes out to it. But anyway, do
Speaker 3: you think that that could happen? Europe can't or won't
Speaker 3: stand up. We're not aiding them anymore. Russia takes Kiev,
Speaker 3: Ukraine's has its site set on Estonia or one of
Speaker 3: those other tiny little countries, and then why wouldn't Putin
Speaker 3: take that? Because Europe just announced we're not gonna fight
Speaker 3: you the NATO shmado wow, and we need a brief
Speaker 3: answer to that question. Yes, I can absolutely picture that happening.
Speaker 4: I don't think it necessarily is going to be militarily,
Speaker 4: because after Russia makes a certain amount of progress, the
Speaker 4: quote unquote negotiations are going to include the removal of
Speaker 4: the current regime and electoral structure in Ukraine and the
Speaker 4: installation of a puppet regime of Moscow like Poorshenko's puppet
Speaker 4: regime back in the twenty ten teens, and effectively he
Speaker 4: will own Ukraine at that point. Now, what happens to
Speaker 4: the Baltic State if the states, if Putin decides to make.
Speaker 1: Moves there what they'll look like. Gosh, that's a tough one.
Speaker 4: It's not out of the question though, But back to
Speaker 4: Ian Bremer's main point, I'm seriously because I try to,
Speaker 4: you know, imagine every scenario fairly and not just leap
Speaker 4: to conclusions, which makes me bad on Twitter. But I
Speaker 4: am struggling to even picture how Europe would get from
Speaker 4: its current like fat old former warrior who thinks he's
Speaker 4: still got it paper tiger hood, to like being actually
Speaker 4: lean and mean enough to be a significant military force.
Speaker 1: I can't even picture that what that would look like.
Speaker 1: Well I can.
Speaker 4: There would be revolution in the streets that would have
Speaker 4: to be put down by governments.
Speaker 1: Popular governments wow, strong enough.
Speaker 4: To engage in seriously draconian measures to reform their economies,
Speaker 4: their entire social fabric.
Speaker 1: Because they are socialist states, and.
Speaker 4: Then make military you know, military might priority again. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's that would be like me declaring exactly how I'm
Speaker 4: going to get to Olympic pole vaulter status.
Speaker 1: It's you can describe how that would.
Speaker 3: Happen, but please, Yeah, it would take a complete restructuring
Speaker 3: of society, and a lot of us who lean right
Speaker 3: have been saying for a very, very long time. You know,
Speaker 3: Europe gets to be, you know, the socialist paradise as
Speaker 3: they are, where you get twelve weeks of vacation and
Speaker 3: retire at fifty and all this sort of stuff. Because
Speaker 3: we pay for the protection. You don't have to worry
Speaker 3: about your military.
Speaker 1: We do it for you.
Speaker 3: Well, if those days are over, holy crap, there's gonna
Speaker 3: be a major restructuring of everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I agree with well, I agree with you completely.
Speaker 4: I can't stop myself from pointing out that they were
Speaker 4: as socialist paradise is for a while. They are turning
Speaker 4: into socialist crap heaps because their.
Speaker 1: Economic always happens.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, exactly, their economic engines installed as they always do,
Speaker 4: and as Margaret Thatcher taught us, they're running out of
Speaker 4: other people's money to spend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the arc of socialism. You can get paradise
Speaker 3: for a while, but it doesn't the last We got
Speaker 3: a mailbag on the way, bunch of other stuff. I'd
Speaker 3: love to hear what you think about this text line
Speaker 3: four one five two nine five kftc AI scandal in
Speaker 3: the Oscars. Love to talk about that later. Not that
Speaker 3: I care about the Oscars, but I am kind of
Speaker 3: interested in AI in the world of art and what
Speaker 3: that all means and if we should be worried or not. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean definitely. And there's some really interesting gay I stuff.
Speaker 4: My lack of enthusiasm is just because, you know, I
Speaker 4: saw that quote unquote scandals a while back and thought.
Speaker 1: Do whatever you want.
Speaker 3: Well, they made it, they made it all about people
Speaker 3: losing jobs whatever. You know that that's not my interest.
Speaker 3: That's gonna happen. I mean, it sucks, but it's gonna happen,
Speaker 3: right right, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: And there's another utterly idiotic quote unquote controversy I want
Speaker 4: to talk about.
Speaker 1: So all right, here's your freedom loving quote of the day.
Speaker 4: And continuing on with our series from Theodore Roosevelt, we'll
Speaker 4: go with a couple today. Believe you can, and you're
Speaker 4: halfway there. He was a very positive thinker, a real guru.
Speaker 4: If he'd been not been president, he would have been
Speaker 4: like a Mark Twain type character.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, if I remember correctly, his dad died young and
Speaker 3: or he was diagnosed with something where he thought he
Speaker 3: was going to die young. That had a big influence
Speaker 3: on his view of life. He didn't think he had
Speaker 3: very long.
Speaker 1: Starting at a.
Speaker 4: Young age, he was stricken with the one of your
Speaker 4: serious childhood diseases of that era, and was very weak
Speaker 4: and worked like a fiend to build himself up to
Speaker 4: the strength he attained and became a great believer in
Speaker 4: overcoming your obstacles and becoming what you dream of being
Speaker 4: another one. No man is above the law, and no
Speaker 4: man is below it. Nor do we ask any man's
Speaker 4: permission when we ask him to obey it. Why we
Speaker 4: could have used that during the George Floyd riots Anyway
Speaker 4: mail bag he drops a note into time mailbag at
Speaker 4: Armstrong unity dot com. Again, that's Armstrong and Getty dot com.
Speaker 4: Excuse me, I've been drinking, I've been torn trying to
Speaker 4: get mailbag together. I thought, let's move on from Ukraine,
Speaker 4: but dozens and dozens and dozens of emails about Ukraine.
Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna sprinkle in a couple. Let's see
Speaker 4: Brian Wrights, Guys, I'm a nearly forty year old millennial
Speaker 4: who works in the taxes. I hate fine china, silverware,
Speaker 4: dressing up, fancy dinners, restaurants, bedskirts, all those industries and
Speaker 4: traditions that.
Speaker 1: Millennials have killed let's sEH restaurants.
Speaker 4: He mentions, as well, you've talked about how in the
Speaker 4: past you use those things to relate to people, that
Speaker 4: this is important to me, and then he says he
Speaker 4: gets now where his parents were coming from. In that way,
Speaker 4: showing up looking professional is important. When the leader of
Speaker 4: the free world says he has a dress code, that's important.
Speaker 4: Obliging the leader of the host nation that has given
Speaker 4: you military aid is important. Zelensky was a moron to
Speaker 4: show up dressed like that shows a lack of respect
Speaker 4: in professionalism.
Speaker 1: It's a youngster, a millennial who rejects all of the
Speaker 1: niceties of the old world.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Man, I can't believe this is part of the conversation.
Speaker 3: But I think you're closer to right than wrong.
Speaker 4: Yeah, gosh, I really I want to talk more about
Speaker 4: this because there's another angle. But it's mailbag and I'll
Speaker 4: be disciplined about it.
Speaker 1: Let's see what it is. And I wanted to get two.
Speaker 3: Very important text we should hit just since we're a
Speaker 3: lot of mocking of the height of Zelensky.
Speaker 1: How tall are you guys? How tall are you?
Speaker 3: I am now five to ten? I was five eleven
Speaker 3: until my back started collapsing. That's interesting because I was
Speaker 3: six to one my whole life. I'm now six foot
Speaker 3: and one quarter inches. I have shrunk three quarters of
Speaker 3: an inch. Yeah, it happens.
Speaker 4: It's the discs in your spine get compressed. No life
Speaker 4: wears you down to a nub.
Speaker 3: If you live to be one hundred and twenty, you'll
Speaker 3: just be a tiny little thing with shoes running around.
Speaker 1: Let's see what do we want to go as here?
Speaker 1: You know what. I'm so tired of this and it's
Speaker 1: so complicated. Oh, I tell you what. Anybody's in an
Speaker 1: email and said, guys, it's simple. It's not.
Speaker 4: Here's a hint, mister always often wrong, never in doubt. No,
Speaker 4: it ain't the Armstrong you getty. One More Thing podcast
Speaker 4: yesterday about a super expensive brand of mattress, hostin Or
Speaker 4: Hasten Donna Wright.
Speaker 1: Don't get that mattress.
Speaker 4: We have this mattress and I hate it, but I'm
Speaker 4: stuck with it for the rest of my life because
Speaker 4: we spent too much money to get rid of it.
Speaker 1: Wow, they actually bought one.
Speaker 3: We did a podcast about this fifty six thousand dollars mattress.
Speaker 3: The new York Times was raving about how comfortable it is.
Speaker 4: And then here's a really funny note from al none
Speaker 4: of Us whose son is applying to the University of
Speaker 4: California system to get in and they noticed that he
Speaker 4: was cleaning and cooking a lot more than normal, and
Speaker 4: he explained to them that he has declared of self
Speaker 4: transgender for the college application process. That will certainly help
Speaker 4: him in the University of California.
Speaker 1: Ah, that's a good one. I got to tell my
Speaker 1: kids that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is pretty funny. And he's also looking into
Speaker 4: playing some college volleyball for the UC system and as
Speaker 4: he is six three, two twenty and a football player,
Speaker 4: that will be an awesome presence on the court for
Speaker 4: whatever University of California school accepts her application.
Speaker 3: Go banana Slugs, that's what I say. Yes, like that
Speaker 3: ball down the real girl's throat, show them. I want
Speaker 3: to hear some of those emails about the whole Ukraine situation.
Speaker 3: A lot more news in hour too if you miss
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