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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty Armstrong and

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Speaker 1: Petty and he.

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Speaker 2: Arms wrong.

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Speaker 1: From the studio. See see Senor. It's a dimly lit.

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Speaker 3: Room deeper than the bowels, the Armstrong and Giddy Communications

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Speaker 3: Compound and uh.

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Speaker 1: Today on Tuesday, we're under the general manager. Triffs. Tarriffs

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Speaker 1: are our general manager. And you gotta say it like that. Tariffs.

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Speaker 3: Triffs are an exciting topic, you know, Oh boy they are.

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Speaker 3: That was dripping with sarcasm. I was just thinking how

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Speaker 3: in the olden days what happened in the last like

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Speaker 3: dozen hours would be just such giant news. The United

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Speaker 3: States laid twenty five percent tariffs on Mexico and Canada,

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Speaker 3: our closest trading partners, and then a ten percent tariff

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Speaker 3: on China, an additional ten percent tariff in China, and

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Speaker 3: halted all funding the Ukraine, who we've been supporting for

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Speaker 3: three years. Both of those stories are just enormous, But

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Speaker 3: we're so used to giant ebbs and flows and everything

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Speaker 3: like that, it just doesn't feel like it would have

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Speaker 3: felt ten years ago.

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Speaker 4: Right right, the pace and significance of the news generated

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Speaker 4: by the new administration is just crazy, hard to take in,

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Speaker 4: hard to comprehend, never mind to form a response or

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Speaker 4: an attack against it, as the Democrats would love to. Michael,

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Speaker 4: do you have our theme music that we play for everything?

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Speaker 4: Welcome to Joe's provocative statement of the day. Joe's provocative

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Speaker 4: statement of the day. The tariff moves will be the

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Speaker 4: undoing of the Trump administration. Wow, this is the landmine

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Speaker 4: they have laid that they are going to step upon.

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Speaker 4: Economically speaking, So you wanted Kamla to win. That's intestable.

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Speaker 1: Well played.

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Speaker 4: He got me, checkmate. No, I wish with every fiber

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Speaker 4: of me. I hope I'm wrong. I think what this

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Speaker 4: is going to do to the economy, the stock market, inflation,

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Speaker 4: working class people's lives ain't gonna be good. And again,

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Speaker 4: I hope I'm wrong. I'm having a lot of trouble

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Speaker 4: finding anybody of any you know, significant haft intelligence who disagrees.

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Speaker 3: Well, the idea, right is that it doesn't last very

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Speaker 3: long that countries realize.

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Speaker 1: Wow, they're serious.

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Speaker 3: So he's serious, really, And it's a dentistring argument around

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Speaker 3: whether or not. And it seems like not to me

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Speaker 3: that any president should have the power to do this

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Speaker 3: sort of thing on his own, just an individual move.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's really it's tacks. It's a heck of

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Speaker 3: a thing. But according to the law, there has to

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Speaker 3: be a national emergency. But as we've seen throughout COVID, painfully,

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Speaker 3: executives at various levels apparently have the right to declare

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Speaker 3: their own emergencies, sometimes on a fairly skinny pretext.

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Speaker 1: No, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Why he keeps mentioning fentanyl from China and Mexico and

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Speaker 3: all and coming across the Canadian mortar and that sort

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Speaker 3: of thing, because that's the emergency.

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Speaker 1: It's the drug thing, which is an emergency. I just

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Speaker 1: don't know if it fits in with this.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, that aside, this is what's happening, and the

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Speaker 3: hope is that these countries, particularly Mexico and Canada China

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Speaker 3: is a different situation as they are are. Me, well, say, wow,

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Speaker 3: he's serious, He's actually going to do this. And then

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Speaker 3: there I heard this morning. It's either talk of or

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Speaker 3: it's already decided that Honda's going to stop making the

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Speaker 3: civic in Mexico and start making it in Indiana, for instance,

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Speaker 3: that sort of thing will start happening, and enough of

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Speaker 3: that will happen, then okay, we can take the tariffs

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Speaker 3: off now, or lower them or however that works in

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Speaker 3: the negotiation. Then it's not you know, permanent going forward. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that would please me, That would be great.

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Speaker 4: My concern is that, and this is a little complicated

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Speaker 4: because they're as Jack indicated, you got our allies and

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Speaker 4: friends and neighbors, then you got China.

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Speaker 1: Just you got to put China over there with tear.

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Speaker 4: If the crap out of them, we shouldn't do anything

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Speaker 4: to help China, and if we have to, you know,

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Speaker 4: suffer a little bit at the cash register. Again, not

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Speaker 4: popular politically, but I get that completely. The problem I

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Speaker 4: see with the like Canada and Mexico thing is there

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Speaker 4: are a few that can make that move fairly quickly.

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Speaker 4: It will be temporary until the moment somebody else comes

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Speaker 4: into power, and so those that can make them move

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Speaker 4: fairly quickly and fairly efficiently, like a big automaker, that'll

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Speaker 4: go pretty well. But the idea that the tariffs are

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Speaker 4: going to revive American manufacturing, if I'm a manufacturer would

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Speaker 4: be manufacturer. I'm thinking Trump's got three and a half

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Speaker 4: years left in office. These policies are are unprecedented and

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Speaker 4: the rest of it. They're all shutting their mouths out

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Speaker 4: of loyalty and or fear of Trump right now. But

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Speaker 4: it's the odds are very, very good it doesn't last

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Speaker 4: more than three and a half years. So I'm not

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Speaker 4: going to spend three and a quarter years building a

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Speaker 4: of dollars if then the you know, the realities are

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Speaker 4: trade including tariffs change.

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Speaker 1: Completely at the end of that.

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Speaker 4: So I just don't know how effective this could be

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Speaker 1: I'd love for it to be in a long term way.

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Speaker 1: I'm just skeptical.

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Speaker 3: Some Republican congressman just introduced the Golden Age Act, which

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Speaker 3: would put President Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: On the one hundred dollars bill. And you wanted to

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Speaker 1: announce that very reasonable for a sitting president.

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Speaker 4: Yes, not at all, the sort of act that normally

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Speaker 4: takes place behind closed doors. And he wants this ole guy,

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Speaker 4: he doesn't need you to do that to him.

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Speaker 1: Oh geez. He wanted to announce that on the day.

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Speaker 3: Because Trump addresses both Houses of Congress tonight, it will

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Speaker 3: look like a State of the Union address more or

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Speaker 3: less is and the State of the Union addresses aren't

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Speaker 3: State of the Union addresses, so quit telling me. It's

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Speaker 3: not actually a State of the Union dress, neither of

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Speaker 1: So what does that even mean? Exactly?

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Speaker 3: So, so he's going to address both Houses of Congress,

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Speaker 3: and Congress people are in theory Democrats going to bring

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Speaker 3: out of work government workers who doge has ruined their.

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Speaker 1: Lives, and they're going to be scattered throughout the chamber. Yes, Michael,

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Speaker 1: do you think they'll be wearing like old clothes and

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Speaker 1: look really poor, right, you know?

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Speaker 3: Or just like yeah, rags, barrels, unshaven, little stub of

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Speaker 3: a cigar, maybe munching hungrily on a crust of bread.

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Speaker 3: Put their shoes up on the chairs so you can

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Speaker 3: see that the bottom of holes in them.

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Speaker 1: So not to jump in if you had a comment

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Speaker 1: on that, but it's funny.

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Speaker 4: One of our beloved listeners just sent us a link

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Speaker 4: to a sketch from twenty ten from Saturday Night Live.

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Speaker 4: The Government employee, The annual government employee Awards for twenty ten.

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Speaker 4: I remember that, and we're gonna work on editing it

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Speaker 4: and bring it. It was very funny, yeah, and pretty long,

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Speaker 4: but anyway, but the point of it obviously is, you know,

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Speaker 4: and that's of course not true of all government workers,

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Speaker 4: but that is the popular perception. So trying to like

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Speaker 4: build a narrative of national woe and disgust that the

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Speaker 4: federal workforce was cut back.

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Speaker 1: Good luck Bill in.

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Speaker 3: That narrative, right, right, Yeah, with your point being that

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Speaker 3: if it was it was fertile ground for Saturday Night

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Speaker 3: Lives audience, it certainly is fertile ground for the rest

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Speaker 1: We should start speaking of that.

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Speaker 3: We should start the show officially before we get into trouble.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jack Armstrong, He's Joe Getty on this. It is Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: March fourth, the year twenty twenty five, or Armstrong.

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Speaker 1: You're getting we approve of this program.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's begin then officially according to FCC rules and regulations,

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Speaker 4: here we go at Mark or lefties singing anthems to

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Speaker 4: something or other to change vines or something.

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Speaker 1: Well, what was that group? What are they protesting? Or

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Speaker 1: matt about her? They're anti dogists?

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Speaker 3: This joy I have, the world didn't give it to me.

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Speaker 3: What's I got to do with doje? I'm just not

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Speaker 3: following here? No, well, what is what's to follow?

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Speaker 4: I don't They're just it's not as good as some

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Speaker 4: of the other protest songs like that.

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Speaker 1: Which side are you on? That was a good one.

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Speaker 2: Which side are you on?

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Speaker 1: Which side are you on? Which itself? We couldn't hold

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Speaker 1: a candle. There's a hole of the sky, well the

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Speaker 1: tree once was.

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Speaker 4: But it's you know, protests singing. It's part of the

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Speaker 4: great tradition. Jack Pete, seeger what he got three some

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Speaker 4: other people?

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Speaker 3: You know the story. You know the story. We got

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Speaker 3: Katie's headlines on the way some mail bag. Yeah uh.

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Speaker 3: And we stopped all aid to Ukraine yesterday Trump announced.

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Speaker 1: That's that. None of that. I was watching that. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: More on that to come, but I was watching the

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Speaker 4: tedious news this last night, feeling my joy speaking of

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Speaker 4: watching that, and one of the news is had some

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Speaker 1: I don't recall what.

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Speaker 5: I was sitting there thinking, when was the last time

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Speaker 5: chanting walking by and thinking, Wow, they're all repeating the

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Speaker 1: That hole in the side where the tree.

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Speaker 4: Once was, somebody's making money, A.

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Speaker 2: Hole in the sky where the tree once was, somebody's

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Speaker 3: All right, Um, that's a good point, though, when was

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Speaker 1: What they're arguing for rhymes, so they make a good point.

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Speaker 3: We've got Katie's headlines next day here, Artie. I'm more

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Speaker 3: concerned about a lot of the foreign policy stuff than

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Speaker 3: inflation currently personally, but that's not what the polls show.

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Speaker 3: We didn't talk about this yesterday. CBS had some pulling

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Speaker 3: concerned about the economy and inflation, but feel that the

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Speaker 3: Trump administration is that is not their focus. Which you know,

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Speaker 3: you're predicting various things that could be trouble for Trump.

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Speaker 3: I think that one's going to be a problem for

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Speaker 3: Trump if if people's perception is the main thing in

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Speaker 3: my life is inflation and your main thing is Ukraine border, tariffs,

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Speaker 3: various things that just that political divide will be a problem.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I left that out of my analysis and one

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Speaker 4: I call it my my shocking statement of the day, whatever.

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Speaker 1: Was that's incredibly important to people.

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Speaker 4: And I've come across some accounts in conservative media of

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Speaker 4: parts of the country that are heavily Trump but are

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Speaker 4: really really struggling with inflation and economic issues. And they also,

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Speaker 4: you know, part of it that they perceive the main

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Speaker 4: goals right now are the border and foreign policy and

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Speaker 4: that sort of thing, But part of it's just no

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Speaker 4: matter what they perceive, they are still struggling financially and

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Speaker 4: haven't seen anything done for them. And that's why I

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Speaker 4: think if the tariff thing doesn't work like just right

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Speaker 4: the way you're describing it, it could be a huge

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Speaker 4: negative right in the pocketbook for Trump's base.

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Speaker 1: And again I'm not rooting for this.

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Speaker 4: That just I see it coming down the line and

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Speaker 4: I wonder if it's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, that'll be fun.

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Speaker 4: Let's figure out who's reporting what it's lead story with

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Speaker 4: Katie Green.

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Speaker 2: Katie, thank you, guys, starting with the free beacon Honda

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Speaker 3: That was a move they definitely wanted to have in

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Speaker 1: That's my point.

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Speaker 3: Now we're cutting off all support.

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Speaker 1: How is this going to turn out? Well?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Zelensky's diplomatic f up will be seen

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Speaker 2: Do we know they're investigating if it was an attack?

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's almost certainly yet another. I think this is

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 3: If I can understand them. Yeah, if it makes me,

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Speaker 2: Jack from The Guardian, more than half of adults worldwide

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Speaker 3: Hey, Usa, USA, We've spread it around the world, so

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Speaker 2: And finally from the Babylon b Trump hangs up sign

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Speaker 1: I saw that.

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Speaker 4: You know what the weekly world news headline or the

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Speaker 2: We're weighing it down.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, my god. We can't drag our ass

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Speaker 1: Even the ability scooter. Yeah, years will be three hundred

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Speaker 6: Ukrainian president of Lazzolenski was criticized for what he woarded

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Speaker 7: But in his defense, most suits his size come with

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Speaker 1: I believe Gutfell's a man of smaller stature himself. Is

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Speaker 4: I just find the he's a shorter fellow shots to

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: I'd rather not base our foreign policy on height or

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Speaker 1: Not that it matters. He's five or five okay, a

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Speaker 3: So, just to fill out this conversation a little bit,

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Speaker 1: I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Uh. Zelensky in Europe, asked about the war ending soon

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Speaker 3: in a peace deal, said it's the war's going to

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Speaker 1: Trump did not like that. Responded to that yesterday in

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Speaker 7: President Zelensky supposedly made a satement today an AP. I'm

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Speaker 1: Better not be right about that. That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So Trump goes on to say, basically, you'd better

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Speaker 4: But the more I see, the more I think Zelensky

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty convinced of that. Interesting.

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Speaker 4: On the other hand, I'm told by Trump World it's

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Speaker 1: Then we're gonna take the entire country. The idea that

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Speaker 3: They got into a bit of a debate on Fox

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Speaker 1: It is like what Russia will take Keevan two days

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Speaker 1: if that happens. Is that what you want? And so yeah,

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Speaker 3: Ian Bremmer, who we've had on the show a lot,

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Speaker 3: and you know, worries more about making sure Europe's happy

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Speaker 6: What the Europeans have to now figure out is are

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Speaker 6: Are they willing to do after three years, after frankly,

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Speaker 6: They haven't stood up for their fellow Europeans. They've allowed

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Speaker 1: is no. How about that you can cut off there?

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Speaker 1: How about that?

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Speaker 3: I thought that I was surprising to me from Ian

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Speaker 3: Bremmer to say, I mean, now, that's a pretty trumpy

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Speaker 4: Well, if you take a serious look at European domestic politics,

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Speaker 4: There's no way it goes through. One more quick thought.

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Speaker 4: I was about to say, I agree with everything you

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Speaker 1: All he cares about his power.

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Speaker 3: So what Ian meant by all the United States cares

441
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Speaker 3: about is power might always have been true.

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Speaker 1: It's just I mean, you can say flowery things, but.

443
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Speaker 3: Trying to put a democracy in Afghanistan because we want

444
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Speaker 3: to spread democracy didn't work. Trying to spread you know,

445
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Speaker 3: a Jeffersonian democracy in Iraq, trying to force that and

446
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Speaker 3: it hasn't worked.

447
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Speaker 1: And so maybe you just do what you can. What

448
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Speaker 1: you have the power to do and that's all you

449
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Speaker 1: can do.

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Speaker 3: And you can say all kinds of nice things, but

451
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Speaker 3: if you're not capable of doing it, I don't know

452
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Speaker 3: do you get credit for saying that.

453
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Speaker 1: I say, it's like the climate change argument.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and I was just thinking, I think it's

455
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Speaker 4: true that we would much prefer democracy should they tend

456
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Speaker 4: to be friendly to other democracy. It's just it's better

457
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Speaker 4: for human beings. But there's a you know, there's a

458
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Speaker 4: point at which that's no longer your highest priority. If

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Speaker 4: the democracy of a you know, Central South American country

460
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Speaker 4: for instance, and this was true throughout the twentieth century,

461
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Speaker 4: if their quote unquote democracy is going to lead them

462
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Speaker 4: to communism and totalitarianism, then we have stepped in many.

463
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Speaker 1: Times and said, nah, we're not gonna let you go

464
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Speaker 1: that way. Hey, you know, and often, you know, it's

465
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Speaker 1: funny for a while.

466
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Speaker 4: When liberal schools really you know, controlled the discussion of history,

467
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Speaker 4: we would be taught at every single quote unquote right

468
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Speaker 4: wing incursion and to say in Nicaragua was awful and

469
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Speaker 4: bloody and we shouldn't have done it, and we should

470
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Speaker 4: have let them, you know, chart their own future. Well,

471
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Speaker 4: they ended up with horrific dictators. You know, Ortega and

472
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Speaker 4: just the Sandinistas were scumbag communists, like all scumbag communists,

473
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Speaker 4: and their countries are falling apart. They're racked with violence

474
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Speaker 4: and gangs and poverty, and now they're exporting all their violent,

475
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Speaker 4: poverty stricken gangs to the US. So, yes, we do

476
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Speaker 4: have an interest in our own neighborhood. And then sometimes

477
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Speaker 4: we got to flex our muscles. But before we get

478
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Speaker 4: to mail bag.

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Speaker 3: So if if Ian is right that the Europeans aren't

480
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Speaker 3: gonna stand up, and if we cut off aid and say, hey,

481
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Speaker 3: Zelenski a non wear and suit wear and midget, we

482
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Speaker 3: ain't giving you anymore. And uh so Russia takes Kiev,

483
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Speaker 3: takes Ukraine, and Europe does it. Lets it happen and

484
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Speaker 3: and and it's you know, if Europe, I have been

485
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Speaker 3: saying since the beginning, if Europe doesn't care, I don't

486
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Speaker 3: know why we shouldn't necessarily care more than Europe does.

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Speaker 3: I still think the US world order, being led by

488
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Speaker 3: US has been, you know, a great benefit to us

489
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Speaker 3: and continues to be a great benefit. And when it's gone,

490
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Speaker 3: everybody's gonna really miss it. Our economic growth will go

491
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Speaker 3: way down when China and controls a third or half

492
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Speaker 3: of the world shipping lanes and all that sort of stuff.

493
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Speaker 3: All that stuff goes out to it. But anyway, do

494
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Speaker 3: you think that that could happen? Europe can't or won't

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Speaker 3: stand up. We're not aiding them anymore. Russia takes Kiev,

496
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Speaker 3: Ukraine's has its site set on Estonia or one of

497
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Speaker 3: those other tiny little countries, and then why wouldn't Putin

498
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Speaker 3: take that? Because Europe just announced we're not gonna fight

499
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Speaker 3: you the NATO shmado wow, and we need a brief

500
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Speaker 3: answer to that question. Yes, I can absolutely picture that happening.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it necessarily is going to be militarily,

502
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Speaker 4: because after Russia makes a certain amount of progress, the

503
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Speaker 4: quote unquote negotiations are going to include the removal of

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Speaker 4: the current regime and electoral structure in Ukraine and the

505
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Speaker 4: installation of a puppet regime of Moscow like Poorshenko's puppet

506
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Speaker 4: regime back in the twenty ten teens, and effectively he

507
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Speaker 4: will own Ukraine at that point. Now, what happens to

508
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Speaker 4: the Baltic State if the states, if Putin decides to make.

509
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Speaker 1: Moves there what they'll look like. Gosh, that's a tough one.

510
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Speaker 4: It's not out of the question though, But back to

511
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Speaker 4: Ian Bremer's main point, I'm seriously because I try to,

512
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Speaker 4: you know, imagine every scenario fairly and not just leap

513
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Speaker 4: to conclusions, which makes me bad on Twitter. But I

514
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Speaker 4: am struggling to even picture how Europe would get from

515
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Speaker 4: its current like fat old former warrior who thinks he's

516
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Speaker 4: still got it paper tiger hood, to like being actually

517
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Speaker 4: lean and mean enough to be a significant military force.

518
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Speaker 1: I can't even picture that what that would look like.

519
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Speaker 1: Well I can.

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Speaker 4: There would be revolution in the streets that would have

521
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Speaker 4: to be put down by governments.

522
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Speaker 1: Popular governments wow, strong enough.

523
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Speaker 4: To engage in seriously draconian measures to reform their economies,

524
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Speaker 4: their entire social fabric.

525
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Speaker 1: Because they are socialist states, and.

526
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Speaker 4: Then make military you know, military might priority again. I mean,

527
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Speaker 4: that's that would be like me declaring exactly how I'm

528
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Speaker 4: going to get to Olympic pole vaulter status.

529
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Speaker 1: It's you can describe how that would.

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Speaker 3: Happen, but please, Yeah, it would take a complete restructuring

531
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Speaker 3: of society, and a lot of us who lean right

532
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 3: have been saying for a very, very long time. You know,

533
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Speaker 3: Europe gets to be, you know, the socialist paradise as

534
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Speaker 3: they are, where you get twelve weeks of vacation and

535
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Speaker 3: retire at fifty and all this sort of stuff. Because

536
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Speaker 3: we pay for the protection. You don't have to worry

537
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Speaker 3: about your military.

538
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Speaker 1: We do it for you.

539
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Speaker 3: Well, if those days are over, holy crap, there's gonna

540
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Speaker 3: be a major restructuring of everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I agree with well, I agree with you completely.

542
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Speaker 4: I can't stop myself from pointing out that they were

543
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Speaker 4: as socialist paradise is for a while. They are turning

544
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Speaker 4: into socialist crap heaps because their.

545
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Speaker 1: Economic always happens.

546
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, exactly, their economic engines installed as they always do,

547
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Speaker 4: and as Margaret Thatcher taught us, they're running out of

548
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Speaker 4: other people's money to spend.

549
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the arc of socialism. You can get paradise

550
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Speaker 3: for a while, but it doesn't the last We got

551
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Speaker 3: a mailbag on the way, bunch of other stuff. I'd

552
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Speaker 3: love to hear what you think about this text line

553
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Speaker 3: four one five two nine five kftc AI scandal in

554
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Speaker 3: the Oscars. Love to talk about that later. Not that

555
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 3: I care about the Oscars, but I am kind of

556
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Speaker 3: interested in AI in the world of art and what

557
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: that all means and if we should be worried or not. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,

558
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Speaker 3: I mean definitely. And there's some really interesting gay I stuff.

559
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Speaker 4: My lack of enthusiasm is just because, you know, I

560
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Speaker 4: saw that quote unquote scandals a while back and thought.

561
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Speaker 1: Do whatever you want.

562
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 3: Well, they made it, they made it all about people

563
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 3: losing jobs whatever. You know that that's not my interest.

564
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Speaker 3: That's gonna happen. I mean, it sucks, but it's gonna happen,

565
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: right right, Yeah, okay.

566
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: And there's another utterly idiotic quote unquote controversy I want

567
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 4: to talk about.

568
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Speaker 1: So all right, here's your freedom loving quote of the day.

569
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Speaker 4: And continuing on with our series from Theodore Roosevelt, we'll

570
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 4: go with a couple today. Believe you can, and you're

571
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 4: halfway there. He was a very positive thinker, a real guru.

572
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 4: If he'd been not been president, he would have been

573
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 4: like a Mark Twain type character.

574
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: So, if I remember correctly, his dad died young and

576
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Speaker 3: or he was diagnosed with something where he thought he

577
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: was going to die young. That had a big influence

578
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 3: on his view of life. He didn't think he had

579
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Speaker 3: very long.

580
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Speaker 1: Starting at a.

581
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Speaker 4: Young age, he was stricken with the one of your

582
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 4: serious childhood diseases of that era, and was very weak

583
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 4: and worked like a fiend to build himself up to

584
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 4: the strength he attained and became a great believer in

585
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 4: overcoming your obstacles and becoming what you dream of being

586
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 4: another one. No man is above the law, and no

587
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 4: man is below it. Nor do we ask any man's

588
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 4: permission when we ask him to obey it. Why we

589
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 4: could have used that during the George Floyd riots Anyway

590
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 4: mail bag he drops a note into time mailbag at

591
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 4: Armstrong unity dot com. Again, that's Armstrong and Getty dot com.

592
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 4: Excuse me, I've been drinking, I've been torn trying to

593
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 4: get mailbag together. I thought, let's move on from Ukraine,

594
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 4: but dozens and dozens and dozens of emails about Ukraine.

595
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna sprinkle in a couple. Let's see

596
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Speaker 4: Brian Wrights, Guys, I'm a nearly forty year old millennial

597
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 4: who works in the taxes. I hate fine china, silverware,

598
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 4: dressing up, fancy dinners, restaurants, bedskirts, all those industries and

599
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 4: traditions that.

600
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Speaker 1: Millennials have killed let's sEH restaurants.

601
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Speaker 4: He mentions, as well, you've talked about how in the

602
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 4: past you use those things to relate to people, that

603
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 4: this is important to me, and then he says he

604
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 4: gets now where his parents were coming from. In that way,

605
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: showing up looking professional is important. When the leader of

606
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Speaker 4: the free world says he has a dress code, that's important.

607
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 4: Obliging the leader of the host nation that has given

608
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 4: you military aid is important. Zelensky was a moron to

609
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 4: show up dressed like that shows a lack of respect

610
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 4: in professionalism.

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Speaker 1: It's a youngster, a millennial who rejects all of the

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Speaker 1: niceties of the old world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Man, I can't believe this is part of the conversation.

615
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: But I think you're closer to right than wrong.

616
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, gosh, I really I want to talk more about

617
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 4: this because there's another angle. But it's mailbag and I'll

618
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 4: be disciplined about it.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what it is. And I wanted to get two.

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Speaker 3: Very important text we should hit just since we're a

621
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Speaker 3: lot of mocking of the height of Zelensky.

622
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: How tall are you guys? How tall are you?

623
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Speaker 3: I am now five to ten? I was five eleven

624
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: until my back started collapsing. That's interesting because I was

625
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 3: six to one my whole life. I'm now six foot

626
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Speaker 3: and one quarter inches. I have shrunk three quarters of

627
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Speaker 3: an inch. Yeah, it happens.

628
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Speaker 4: It's the discs in your spine get compressed. No life

629
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 4: wears you down to a nub.

630
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Speaker 3: If you live to be one hundred and twenty, you'll

631
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Speaker 3: just be a tiny little thing with shoes running around.

632
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: Let's see what do we want to go as here?

633
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Speaker 1: You know what. I'm so tired of this and it's

634
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Speaker 1: so complicated. Oh, I tell you what. Anybody's in an

635
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: email and said, guys, it's simple. It's not.

636
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 4: Here's a hint, mister always often wrong, never in doubt. No,

637
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 4: it ain't the Armstrong you getty. One More Thing podcast

638
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 4: yesterday about a super expensive brand of mattress, hostin Or

639
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Speaker 4: Hasten Donna Wright.

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Speaker 1: Don't get that mattress.

641
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Speaker 4: We have this mattress and I hate it, but I'm

642
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 4: stuck with it for the rest of my life because

643
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 4: we spent too much money to get rid of it.

644
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: Wow, they actually bought one.

645
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 3: We did a podcast about this fifty six thousand dollars mattress.

646
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Speaker 3: The new York Times was raving about how comfortable it is.

647
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 4: And then here's a really funny note from al none

648
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Speaker 4: of Us whose son is applying to the University of

649
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 4: California system to get in and they noticed that he

650
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 4: was cleaning and cooking a lot more than normal, and

651
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Speaker 4: he explained to them that he has declared of self

652
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Speaker 4: transgender for the college application process. That will certainly help

653
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Speaker 4: him in the University of California.

654
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Speaker 1: Ah, that's a good one. I got to tell my

655
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Speaker 1: kids that.

656
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that is pretty funny. And he's also looking into

657
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Speaker 4: playing some college volleyball for the UC system and as

658
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Speaker 4: he is six three, two twenty and a football player,

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Speaker 4: that will be an awesome presence on the court for

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Speaker 4: whatever University of California school accepts her application.

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Speaker 3: Go banana Slugs, that's what I say. Yes, like that

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Speaker 3: ball down the real girl's throat, show them. I want

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Speaker 3: to hear some of those emails about the whole Ukraine situation.

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Speaker 3: A lot more news in hour too if you miss

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Speaker 3: a segment at the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty