Speaker 1: Hi everybody, and welcome back to Katie's Crib. In this episode,
Speaker 1: we're talking about one of my favorite topics, travel, but
Speaker 1: now we're talking about travel with kids. So it's super stressful,
Speaker 1: I know, for a lot of people to travel on
Speaker 1: your own and then adding a baby into the mix,
Speaker 1: it is just it can be a lot. And just
Speaker 1: because you have a baby, it does not mean you, guys,
Speaker 1: that you have to swear off long distance trips. Okay.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, you just need to visit a family
Speaker 1: member far away, or sometimes you just like need a vacation,
Speaker 1: you know, and we're here to tell you that it
Speaker 1: is possible and you can do it without losing your
Speaker 1: freaking mind. Okay, we are here today with one of
Speaker 1: my best friends in the entire world. It is the one,
Speaker 1: the only, Samantha Sky Shelton who has the most beautiful
Speaker 1: She is a really freaking good friend of mine. And
Speaker 1: also you guys, she is the incredible singer and talent
Speaker 1: that you hear on the music at the end and
Speaker 1: the beginning of this podcast. You know when it says
Speaker 1: you do it, yeah that do it, do it, do
Speaker 1: it my way? And also just why I I was
Speaker 1: sam Shelton's backup singer for a good many years before scandal.
Speaker 1: When we would where would we perform? Oh, all over
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, the clubs of l A. And now I
Speaker 1: would happily be your backup singer. I would be your
Speaker 1: backup singer any day of the week. All I can
Speaker 1: remember was at a time in my life where I
Speaker 1: thought wearing navy blue sequin booty shorts with like high
Speaker 1: heels and tights was like a good look. But I
Speaker 1: was like a backup singing. It was just to hang
Speaker 1: out and practice, like the songs and harmonizing stuff. It
Speaker 1: was an opportunity to chill. And you know how we
Speaker 1: figured that out week. Okay. So Sam and I met
Speaker 1: in an acting class a hundred thousand years ago, Mark
Speaker 1: Casey's acting class. And then her husband Stephen and my
Speaker 1: husband Adam became friends separately, and then we put two
Speaker 1: and two together that they were becoming fast friends and
Speaker 1: she and I were becoming fast friends, and then it
Speaker 1: was just on, and it's been on for ten years
Speaker 1: or something like that. Craziness. Um. Sam has always been
Speaker 1: before babies, a traveling guru, like so sweet, No, you
Speaker 1: do love to travel? Traveling has been like it has been.
Speaker 1: Tell us like some of the places you went to before?
Speaker 1: What did your travel life look like before when you
Speaker 1: were not well. I have always approached traveling like not
Speaker 1: so much as taking a vacation, but rather as like
Speaker 1: a way of life and how it's just a part
Speaker 1: of my year. I always set aside money to travel
Speaker 1: every month, and I still do to this day as
Speaker 1: just it's part of my own experience on this planet.
Speaker 1: I just want to see the world. I want to
Speaker 1: see as much as I can, and there is still
Speaker 1: so many more places to go. And you have seen
Speaker 1: a lot more places probably than I have. But I
Speaker 1: mean some of my big adventures have been to Australia, Cambodia, Thailand,
Speaker 1: Um all over and then South America. Did you feel fear?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, where did you go in Argentina? I want
Speaker 1: to go to the end. What do people feel like?
Speaker 1: Did you ever have a fear when you were thinking
Speaker 1: or talking about family planning with Steven that like traveling
Speaker 1: was going to be gone, or it was like, oh no, no,
Speaker 1: we're just going to bring kid into the next We
Speaker 1: always just we're going to bring the kid into the mix.
Speaker 1: But I think you have you know people have this, um,
Speaker 1: you know, there's this thing where moms are like, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna strap my baby to me and just take
Speaker 1: them wherever I go, and like, you know, like they're
Speaker 1: just going to live my life with me, my life
Speaker 1: right right, right right, I'm just going to put on that,
Speaker 1: you know, put them in the sling and go. And
Speaker 1: I think the reality is it's a little more complicated
Speaker 1: than that, especially for us, um, but it's still not
Speaker 1: even an issue for us. It's like they're just going
Speaker 1: to have to get up and go and and you
Speaker 1: have to tell us about your kids. You have to.
Speaker 1: I have two adorable children, Laslow and Poppy. I mean, guys,
Speaker 1: let's just give a big round of applause for those
Speaker 1: dope ass names. They're amazing. What's Samantha's guy Shelton would
Speaker 1: only have a Laslow Davis and a Poppy Davis. Um,
Speaker 1: Laslow is five and Poppies too. Do you remember your
Speaker 1: first trip with Laslow? I do. We went to Zatjo
Speaker 1: Michel and Um, of course I was terrified, and you know,
Speaker 1: he's just there's so many unknowns. What's the plane going
Speaker 1: to be, like, what's the airport going to be? Like
Speaker 1: customs and then you're going to Mexico, and um, it
Speaker 1: was incredible. I remember that, you know the people around us.
Speaker 1: You know, if you have an adorable baby, like, people
Speaker 1: are generally pretty nice to you. And Mexico is a
Speaker 1: country that loves kids and people bent over backwards. Um.
Speaker 1: One of the craziest things about that particular trip I'll
Speaker 1: never forget this is, you know, I had like the
Speaker 1: car seed and the bags and the diaper bags and
Speaker 1: like all of our documents and crab and we made it.
Speaker 1: We got to the cab, you know, things are falling
Speaker 1: everywhere whatever. We get to the hotel. Two days later,
Speaker 1: the security guard comes up to us and it's like,
Speaker 1: can you come to the office. And we get to
Speaker 1: the office totally freaked out, and he's like he hands
Speaker 1: us our passports which had fallen out in the backseat
Speaker 1: of the cab, and this angel taxi driver came back
Speaker 1: to the hotel and brought the passports them. So talk
Speaker 1: about a moment of like seeing what your life could
Speaker 1: have been on the other side. I was like, attorneys, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, it was stuck in Mexico, Like what do
Speaker 1: you even do? I would have had no idea what
Speaker 1: to do, and do you get just stressed about like
Speaker 1: like I think a lot of people get stressed about
Speaker 1: the plane ride, which we'll get into and is can
Speaker 1: be a fucking nightmare. But and I know you've lived
Speaker 1: through some ship, but I always get stressed about only
Speaker 1: traveling to places right now where I think, like the
Speaker 1: hospitals are going to be okay, Like that is so
Speaker 1: my alarmist ass, dumbass self, But like I like, we
Speaker 1: took Albion his first trip outside the country to Barcelona.
Speaker 1: He was eight or nine months old, and I got
Speaker 1: into my head that someone had said you should take
Speaker 1: them when they're really young, before they're walking, because they
Speaker 1: nap all the time in the stroller. I was still nursing,
Speaker 1: and I could nurse on the plane, you know, which
Speaker 1: makes plane rides far more easy because they're very suitable.
Speaker 1: I um, I felt like going to Barcelona Madrid would
Speaker 1: be God forbid anything bad had happened. Why I chose
Speaker 1: these cities is that a hospital would be as great
Speaker 1: as one is here, and so I wasn't comfortable going
Speaker 1: to a place that might not be first world. Do
Speaker 1: you ever feel that way or you're like I think
Speaker 1: if I were to do it differently, I think you
Speaker 1: totally had it right, and I should have gone to
Speaker 1: cities like that when they were babies, because it's once
Speaker 1: they're walking and crawling, then that's a whole other ballgame.
Speaker 1: Should come in the stroller. Then yes, go to Paris.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I recommend the cities because they can
Speaker 1: do museums on naps. What's kind of romantic about it
Speaker 1: is even if their jet lagged. What I found is
Speaker 1: like if you woke up at four or five o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning, we just threw him in the stroller
Speaker 1: and like Adam and I like strolled the city like
Speaker 1: by ourselves before the city was awake, and it was
Speaker 1: like super romantic and dope and awesome. And so I
Speaker 1: had heard this tip of advice to like travel with
Speaker 1: the baby before they're crawling and moving, and it's like, actually,
Speaker 1: it was like adding and I say, it was like
Speaker 1: better than our baby moon. That thing that people take
Speaker 1: is totally queasy and you can drinking baby Moon is
Speaker 1: so stupid. It's this like dumbass hallmark thing of like
Speaker 1: you have to take your last trip before the baby
Speaker 1: is there. Well, you can't drink, you know, you feel
Speaker 1: like garbage. You definitely don't want to have sex all
Speaker 1: the time. I mean, I guess some few lucky women
Speaker 1: are like super horny during pregnancy and go with God.
Speaker 1: Great for them, but like I was not so I
Speaker 1: like I just thought my baby moon was like supposed
Speaker 1: to be this epic, amazing thing, and it really wasn't.
Speaker 1: We went to Hawaii, but then when we went to
Speaker 1: Barcelona with the baby, it was like very romantic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds so dreamy. I think we went to loom
Speaker 1: as a baby moon, and then we went to Palm
Speaker 1: Springs or something, and I kind of have these vague
Speaker 1: like like kind of hot, uncomfortable case memories, like it's
Speaker 1: just not great. Like going to your point about hospitals,
Speaker 1: I do always double check and just kind of make
Speaker 1: sure I know where it is, what your first line
Speaker 1: of defense would be. And in fact, I have a
Speaker 1: friend who was staying in a beautiful villa in Tuscany,
Speaker 1: and she had her twins were four years old at
Speaker 1: the time, and you know what can go wrong. They're
Speaker 1: playing one of her twins gets bit by a viper
Speaker 1: extremely rare, extremely deadly snake in Tuscany. That's unheard of,
Speaker 1: and she it was a whole drama. But basically she
Speaker 1: was in you know, Taxis, two clinics than the clinic too,
Speaker 1: in the ambulance to you know, Florence, and in the
Speaker 1: hospital for two weeks. Her son is fine, thank god,
Speaker 1: and everyone's okay. But she actually gave me the great advice,
Speaker 1: which is to not only double check where the clinics
Speaker 1: and the urgent care is and all of that, but
Speaker 1: also to understand what your insurance is in a foreign
Speaker 1: country and how to just be prepared something about that,
Speaker 1: Like you just, I guess spend some time googling wherever
Speaker 1: it is you're going and where the closest places like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know, and I guess you call your insurance company,
Speaker 1: like the hotel would know where the town you're in,
Speaker 1: or you know. Yeah. On the other hand, I don't
Speaker 1: spend too much time worrying about it. Yes, Sam Shelton
Speaker 1: is one of these amazing moms to have around, because
Speaker 1: you're very good at that. Like I'm the warrior and
Speaker 1: Sam is like it's fine, Like it's gonna be fine,
Speaker 1: It's gonna work out. Okay, you guys, We're going to
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Speaker 1: to my conversation all about travel. I love this stuff
Speaker 1: with Sam Shelton, so Lajo which was his first baby trip,
Speaker 1: and um, how how was he on that flight? He
Speaker 1: was people really nice. Yeah, and he was again I
Speaker 1: think he was five months and so he was just
Speaker 1: nursing and snapping and easy. Easy when they're when they're
Speaker 1: toddlers and you do long flights, you know there and
Speaker 1: he's five now and we just had a really rough
Speaker 1: flight that included a night terror, which was ye, can
Speaker 1: you explain the story? This is horrifying. Well, night terror
Speaker 1: has happened, you know, fairly often with kids around three
Speaker 1: four years old. It's a crazy dream. It's like a
Speaker 1: nightmare that they can't wake themselves up out of and
Speaker 1: you can't wake them up out of and you just
Speaker 1: have to write it out. And it happens when they're overtired,
Speaker 1: and um, we happen to have one on a cross
Speaker 1: country flight from New York to Los Angeles, and my
Speaker 1: poor son just was sleeping on my lap and then
Speaker 1: just sat up and started screaming bloody murder on the
Speaker 1: plane for fifteen minutes, solid could not wake him up
Speaker 1: out of this thing. He gets on the floor in
Speaker 1: front of my knees and then throws up all over
Speaker 1: my legs, up dress, into my shoes. I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: in a pool. God lets supply attendants, but they're not
Speaker 1: really great and they actually don't have cleaning supplies for
Speaker 1: this kind of thing, right, They only have barf bags
Speaker 1: for adults, but like if there's throw up everywhere, it's
Speaker 1: only to have like an amazing endless supply of like
Speaker 1: white Like yeah, so I was like had my baby
Speaker 1: wipes from my two year old. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: it was a disaster. And plus, you don't bring a
Speaker 1: change of clothes for your five year old or yourself,
Speaker 1: so notice, you know, maybe pack your own self a
Speaker 1: T shirt, especially if you have a baby good or
Speaker 1: you know, pants. But we like wrapped a hoodie around
Speaker 1: my son's lap and then and he was just naked, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was naked. And then he we had an hour
Speaker 1: left to go in the flight we got and luckily
Speaker 1: we were heading back to Los Angeles, so we were
Speaker 1: going home. But he woke up and he was like,
Speaker 1: where are my pants? He had no memory of the incident. Wow,
Speaker 1: can you tell me what is your like flight suggestions?
Speaker 1: They're both now of the age, so you guys know,
Speaker 1: babies blow to fly for free, and so a lot
Speaker 1: of people like to take advantage of flying to visit
Speaker 1: family or taking vacations before the babies too, because they
Speaker 1: don't have to pay for an additional ticket, although it
Speaker 1: is can be a nightmare that the baby's on your
Speaker 1: lap in a tiny ass economy seat for however long.
Speaker 1: So you're at the place now where they're getting their
Speaker 1: own seats. Yes, And not only that, but since I
Speaker 1: have two kids, you know, a lot of planes are
Speaker 1: three and three. So I will be sitting next to
Speaker 1: my two children. My husband's crossed the aisle listening to
Speaker 1: his podcasts and having a drink and at the time
Speaker 1: of his life. And that just because both kids want you, right,
Speaker 1: they're both like, I wanted the next I want to
Speaker 1: the next time. What is your like plane packing list?
Speaker 1: Right now? What are your tips or like a. Is
Speaker 1: there anything where you're like, they need this, they need that? Like,
Speaker 1: are you at iPad level? Like had you checked to
Speaker 1: see if the planes have TVs? Are you against that?
Speaker 1: How does that hole go? We bring kindles for both
Speaker 1: of the kids, and we're totally like screens are great
Speaker 1: on planes, like, go for it, kids, and we always
Speaker 1: have I actually never checked see if the plane has
Speaker 1: a TV because we know we'll have our our kindler
Speaker 1: eight pat or whatever. Um. Absolutely. There's this one thing
Speaker 1: which I highly recommend. It's called a trunky and it's
Speaker 1: a suitcase. It's like a plastic suitcase for toddlers, and
Speaker 1: it has wheels on the bottom of it and a
Speaker 1: strap and handles and the kids. It's like an It's
Speaker 1: a toy for the kids to play on while they're
Speaker 1: waiting in the airport because they can scoot around on it.
Speaker 1: You can pull them by the strap they hold on
Speaker 1: and you give them a ride the airport. They look amazing.
Speaker 1: It's genius. My son loves it. And then what's in there? Suffer, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we bring the iPad. My son's obsessed with travel and airplanes,
Speaker 1: no wonder, so he always brings his toy planes to
Speaker 1: have on the plane and then we pack workbooks, coloring books.
Speaker 1: Magnetiles are great. Magnet magnetiles are those plastic magnets that
Speaker 1: you can build structures with, but they stick together. Their
Speaker 1: magnetic Albie will soon be doing um. But they are
Speaker 1: incredible because they're they you know, suck together and so
Speaker 1: they're they're easy to say. They're kind of like their
Speaker 1: own game exactly. And what's the snack situation for you
Speaker 1: on planes? Do you are you like a big pre
Speaker 1: snack packer or I bring tons of snacks. I bring
Speaker 1: like tangerines, goldfish, whatever snack you know, veggies, all all
Speaker 1: of that stuff. And I also part of the fund
Speaker 1: for my kids is getting a snack at the airport
Speaker 1: to take on the planes. So they always like to
Speaker 1: get the muffin or get the treat eminem's. We always
Speaker 1: keep the eminem's. If something's going wrong after five minutes,
Speaker 1: you've got to bring those eminems and off for a
Speaker 1: couple of eminem m. This is all so smart. This
Speaker 1: is what's coming down the pipe for me, because see
Speaker 1: I'm still dealing with a toddler who like I can't
Speaker 1: give him magnet tiles because abby's are the age like,
Speaker 1: I can't bring anything on the plane that he can
Speaker 1: throw because he will throw it into aisles in front
Speaker 1: and behind us. Um And I packed the most snacks
Speaker 1: you've ever seen in your entire life. But you know
Speaker 1: how it used to be like you would travel with
Speaker 1: your backpack that had like your booking it that you
Speaker 1: were reading and like your planner, like whatever. Now Adam
Speaker 1: has a backpack that has like a few of my
Speaker 1: things in it because I don't. I don't read on
Speaker 1: planes anymore. I don't do anything for myself on planes anymore.
Speaker 1: It's just a full time job of entertaining my child.
Speaker 1: Um so that I'm trying to be respectful of the
Speaker 1: other people flying. Um and so I there's one pack
Speaker 1: pack that has like my wallet and passport, and then
Speaker 1: my backpack is filled with you bring I've heard a
Speaker 1: bunch of diapers. I think it's one per hour when
Speaker 1: they're little, was what I had read. The most wipes ever,
Speaker 1: a change of outfit, the most snacks ever. And then
Speaker 1: I also always bring on the plane motrin a thermometer,
Speaker 1: which it's crazy, I just feel like I should have it,
Speaker 1: and Bena drill and I was reading that you bring
Speaker 1: those things on the plane because God forbid they have
Speaker 1: a crazy like allergic reaction at thirty five thousand feet
Speaker 1: or they start running a temperature um you can administer
Speaker 1: either of those things. You should also make sure you've
Speaker 1: tried those things before you're trying them on a plane,
Speaker 1: just to know that your kid doesn't react poorly to them,
Speaker 1: Like you don't want the first time you're trying motor
Speaker 1: or benegroul to be on a plane, have tried that before,
Speaker 1: Like I did. You did that with my older son
Speaker 1: he Um. I gave him benegroul for the first time
Speaker 1: on an eight hour flight, and he is of the
Speaker 1: two percent or three percent of kids or something who
Speaker 1: has the opposite reaction, and instead of it making them
Speaker 1: sleepy and drowsy, it made him like overactive and crazy.
Speaker 1: So definitely talk to your pediatrician and maybe give that
Speaker 1: a tribe. Have you ever been one of those people?
Speaker 1: And I have not. I've seen on Instagram like amazing
Speaker 1: people who come onto the plane with a baby and
Speaker 1: like have brought gifts or Starbucks gifts cards for everyone
Speaker 1: who sits a readily against that. I'm against the too.
Speaker 1: Fuck that. I'm sorry, but like what the fuck, like
Speaker 1: like I have time for that. Like I'm not going
Speaker 1: to buy gift cards, Like I'm sorry, I'm a nice person.
Speaker 1: I'm going to do the best I can exactly, Like
Speaker 1: I've never been given a little baggy of ear plugs
Speaker 1: and treats and whatever. But I honestly like it's the
Speaker 1: last thing on my mind when I'm getting ready for
Speaker 1: a flight. And by the way, like you know, everyone's
Speaker 1: doing that, Everyone's doing the best they can. I just
Speaker 1: kids are kids. They're going to do what they do that.
Speaker 1: You know, you're not getting on an airplane to have
Speaker 1: a vacation on the airplane. It's like it's a mode
Speaker 1: of transportation. So let's just all like hunger down, put
Speaker 1: in your earphones exactly, like bring your own sinking air plugs. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I see this on Instagram, like these wonderful parents who
Speaker 1: are like I might be a bit I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but like I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm supposed to be thinking of. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to pack for my entire family. I'm trying.
Speaker 1: I know that I will walk one thousand. Oh. Here's
Speaker 1: a question. Have you found it to be easier to
Speaker 1: fly with breaks or do you think it's easier to
Speaker 1: flight overnight? Um, I definitely think you should just get
Speaker 1: it one and done do the longer flight. I personally like,
Speaker 1: don't want to go through taking off and landing, getting
Speaker 1: off plane, getting on a plane. For me, that's I
Speaker 1: know other people have a different opinion and like they
Speaker 1: like the break, they like to let their kid run
Speaker 1: around or whatever. For me, I just prefer to, like,
Speaker 1: let's just get it done with. Are your kids having
Speaker 1: Do they have bad reactions to the ascend and decent?
Speaker 1: They don't. Um, they have both been pretty even killed.
Speaker 1: But you know, they say sucking on something I've I've
Speaker 1: nursed my kids and I usually try to do that
Speaker 1: on take off or landing. But they say you can
Speaker 1: also give them, you know, like a lollipop. I have
Speaker 1: some friends to give their kids lollipops or that's brilliant
Speaker 1: because a lot of times cry the most with the
Speaker 1: they can't regulate their ears going up and going down.
Speaker 1: And that's Have you ever had negative run ins with
Speaker 1: fellow passengers, because I just had my first one and
Speaker 1: it was a fucking nightmare. I haven't. Actually, I think
Speaker 1: most people have been pretty nice. I mean you get
Speaker 1: some like some sour looks. I'm sure with my son
Speaker 1: through up. You know, when there was an hour left
Speaker 1: to go, people were not necessarily but I didn't even
Speaker 1: look because I mean, what can I do. It's like
Speaker 1: doing I You guys was away over Christmas? Did I
Speaker 1: tell you this yet? Oh? I did? Okay? I um
Speaker 1: came home. We were flying home from the Dominican Republic,
Speaker 1: and I treated this is a huge controversy. I've since
Speaker 1: done a lot of research and looked into it, but
Speaker 1: there is a whole thing about should babies or should
Speaker 1: babies not be in first class. It's a big touchy subject.
Speaker 1: I most of the time do not fly first class.
Speaker 1: Um it's really expensive, and that's for when mommy's working
Speaker 1: and someone else is paying for that. But um, I
Speaker 1: the first class flights from Atlanta to l A were
Speaker 1: crazily not expensive, and I went for it. Also, I
Speaker 1: think the holidays. Being a former scandal actor, I get
Speaker 1: people asking to take a lot of photos and sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm really tired and I have a baby, and I
Speaker 1: don't really want pictures of Albi out there. So I
Speaker 1: bought the first class ticket and we walked on the plane,
Speaker 1: and in the first two minutes there's a dude and
Speaker 1: his girlfriend or wife whatever, three rows behind us, and
Speaker 1: they are shushing Albie every two seconds every sound he makes.
Speaker 1: He did not cry, he was talking. He's a toddler,
Speaker 1: so a lot of like oh lah and like yeah
Speaker 1: and like boo boo b B B like whatever. And
Speaker 1: they keep going and rolling their eyes at us anytime
Speaker 1: I made eye contact. It lasted for about an hour,
Speaker 1: the tons of shushing, until my husband stood up went
Speaker 1: to go back to the bathroom holding Albie, and they
Speaker 1: shushed us again. And Albie and Adam went up to
Speaker 1: the gentleman and said, hey, is there a problem. Is
Speaker 1: there something we could be doing to make this flight better?
Speaker 1: I'm really sorry, And they said, this is ridiculous. We're
Speaker 1: the only people that have the balls to speak up
Speaker 1: in first class. But your baby is screaming and you
Speaker 1: need to get control of your baby. And he I
Speaker 1: heard this go down to which then I stood up
Speaker 1: and said, excuse me, we're doing a great job. Our
Speaker 1: baby hasn't even cried, and he's you need to be
Speaker 1: walking your baby up and down the tile areas. I said, oh,
Speaker 1: I took my hoops off, and I was like, do
Speaker 1: you just hate babies or something? That's what I said.
Speaker 1: This guy said, no, I have a daughter, and his
Speaker 1: girlfriend was like, yeah, he has a daughter, and I
Speaker 1: was like, well, obviously you're like a fucking horrible father. Um.
Speaker 1: It was a nightmare. Uh. Thank god we didn't get
Speaker 1: into an actual fight with them, because they were tan
Speaker 1: and ripped as hell and they would have broken Adam
Speaker 1: and I in fucking half. But they were horribly. They
Speaker 1: hated the baby, they hated us. They said we paid
Speaker 1: for this flight, and I said, you know, we've paid
Speaker 1: for first class as well, and we have every right
Speaker 1: to be here. We got the bulkhead and it was
Speaker 1: absolutely what did the stewardists or the flight A flight
Speaker 1: attendant came up and said came up and said, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: you can't be constantly shushing the baby. In my fifteen
Speaker 1: years of being a flight attendant, I've never seen behavior
Speaker 1: like this. He asked for her name because he was
Speaker 1: going to file a complaint with Delta, to which then
Speaker 1: I said, well, yeah, what is your name because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be finally a compliment with Delta, which I did
Speaker 1: for Stacy Brooks. I know you Stacy Brooks Delta flight.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the number, but from Atlanta to No
Speaker 1: Standard Domingo to it Ad Republic, no Punta Kana to Atlanta. Anyway,
Speaker 1: this is my first and only running that has been
Speaker 1: very negative. But since then I've done some research and
Speaker 1: there are people who just really believe babies shouldn't be
Speaker 1: in first class and maybe I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: the only freaking problem is that I'm like Kim Kardashian
Speaker 1: flies first class with her babies. I've seen her do that,
Speaker 1: Like what do you do if you're someone who's in
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry? And when I fly economy, which I
Speaker 1: do all the time with a hat and glasses, everyone
Speaker 1: in the back of the airplane is always like, what
Speaker 1: are you doing back here? And I'm like, well, I'm
Speaker 1: just like a person like you with like my kid,
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, but you're on scandal and I'm
Speaker 1: like yeah, but I'm also like an actor who's like
Speaker 1: looking for a job. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It gets very odd. Um, I think that's crazy. I've
Speaker 1: never heard that about babies. But I think that if
Speaker 1: I could afford to fly in business or first class
Speaker 1: with my baby. I would absolutely a percent and do
Speaker 1: that because that's going to give you a better experience
Speaker 1: with your kid. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I think and this is probably a good rule of
Speaker 1: thumb for travel in general, which is just you cannot
Speaker 1: please all of the people all the time or care
Speaker 1: about what people are thinking. Like if I see a
Speaker 1: kid on a plane crying or whatever, I just want
Speaker 1: to see that the parents are trying to do something,
Speaker 1: you know, that makes me feel like, well, what can
Speaker 1: they do? But it looks like they care and they're
Speaker 1: making an effort. Now Albie wasn't even crying, So these
Speaker 1: people are insane and this is and it sounds like,
Speaker 1: I mean, you've traveled with your baby so many times
Speaker 1: and this is definitely and this was Albi's thirteenth flight,
Speaker 1: and I've never had an experience like this, So this
Speaker 1: is obviously the exception and not the rule. But I
Speaker 1: think you're right. I think it comes into a lot
Speaker 1: of like if you're someone who's you know, very attached
Speaker 1: to what people think, this is the biggest exercise. Flying
Speaker 1: with the baby is the biggest practice you will ever
Speaker 1: have of just you cannot care not you can only
Speaker 1: do what you can do exactly and find that meditative
Speaker 1: place inside of you to just tune out the eyeballs
Speaker 1: or whatever and just try to help your kid out
Speaker 1: with whatever is going on. And you know, some there's
Speaker 1: a reason, sometimes there's not. But you know, my daughter
Speaker 1: screamed for about nine hours straight on an overnight flight.
Speaker 1: And where are you going Fiji? I mean, you guys
Speaker 1: babies to Fiji? Like this woman is a beast, Like
Speaker 1: these are goals right now? These are goals because I cried,
Speaker 1: like when I had a baby, we were making Albie,
Speaker 1: Like one of the biggest concerns I had was that
Speaker 1: I felt like my travel life was over, and because
Speaker 1: Adam and I had been not working actors for so long,
Speaker 1: our travel life was very short. Like we had some
Speaker 1: years where we actually could afford to see the world.
Speaker 1: And I feel like you do. I feel like it's
Speaker 1: my responsibility to try to see as much as I can.
Speaker 1: And I love immersing myself in other cultures and other places.
Speaker 1: And I just was very upset when I got pregnant,
Speaker 1: like I don't want that to change. Um, And you're
Speaker 1: such an inspiration to me. You really mean you've seen
Speaker 1: that you have been everywhere the baby. Do you know that.
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, it's like
Speaker 1: it's as hard as it can be. And you know,
Speaker 1: the rough nights, the sleeping, you know, the jet lab whatever,
Speaker 1: it's always worth it. I've never regretted a trip. I've
Speaker 1: never regretted. And it's like time passes. You're on a
Speaker 1: plane for ten freaking hours. It's going to end eventually,
Speaker 1: and then you're going to be in Fiji or worry wherever.
Speaker 1: And it's you know, if you can just keep your
Speaker 1: head out of other people's you know, issues, issues, and
Speaker 1: I'm focused on just getting through it and getting to
Speaker 1: the next stage and taking a nap or you know,
Speaker 1: making it work with your partner. It's it's always worth it.
Speaker 1: What about UM now that we've gotten off the plane, which, guys,
Speaker 1: that is the big That is big. That is a
Speaker 1: big part of it. Let's talk about hotel situations, staying
Speaker 1: with friends, relatives, like what do you prefer um. We've
Speaker 1: done a lot of airbnb s and um rentals and
Speaker 1: that's always great and fun, especially if you know you
Speaker 1: want to have a fridge or you're making your breakfast
Speaker 1: for your kids or whatever, like that's always great. On
Speaker 1: the other hand, it can mean that you're also doing
Speaker 1: exactly what you do at home on vacation with a
Speaker 1: million dishes a day, or you know, step two. So
Speaker 1: I can see the benefit of just like the room
Speaker 1: service the hotel. I think that's a really good idea
Speaker 1: because I have found so far in our baby I'll
Speaker 1: be travels that like, yes, having a house is sort
Speaker 1: of a better situation because there's like a bathtub and
Speaker 1: like some of these nice hotel rooms only have a shower,
Speaker 1: or like you know, we have a full kitchen so
Speaker 1: I can do his food. But you're right, like, then
Speaker 1: you're just doing the same ship you do. You've brought
Speaker 1: all this gear from home, all the pouches and the
Speaker 1: things and the spoons and the sippy cups that you
Speaker 1: like to have at home. And then the next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, you're like doing the same thing you're doing home,
Speaker 1: and you're ever thought about it like that, Um, when
Speaker 1: you're traveling, what are you what are the things that
Speaker 1: you UM? Space is also important, so it's like a
Speaker 1: hotel rooms don't often have you know, the best space,
Speaker 1: and I know you've like I'll be slept in many
Speaker 1: a bathroom with many bath to get the black out.
Speaker 1: We have these baby this travel we take it when
Speaker 1: we travel. We take his travel crib everywhere. It's thirteen
Speaker 1: pounds so it's so light, and we pop that ship open.
Speaker 1: Everywhere we've been. He's lucky if he gets a room.
Speaker 1: Most of the time he doesn't. He's usually in like
Speaker 1: a nicer sized bathroom with the door closet, a roomy closet.
Speaker 1: We've done a bunch of those. I just is for me.
Speaker 1: It's like, as long as I know there's air ventilation,
Speaker 1: that's the only thing I get like a little bit
Speaker 1: nervous about because you want there to be like a
Speaker 1: fan or vents or whatever. Um but that white We
Speaker 1: bring our white noise machine. We bring the travel crib,
Speaker 1: We bring his sippy cups or bottles, and we always
Speaker 1: bring I know it's not the best, but we do
Speaker 1: bring pouches, you know, of the food and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Because sometimes we've traveled places where I just came to
Speaker 1: our first experience in Dominican Republic, there was no milk. WHOA, like,
Speaker 1: there's milk, but it's it's fun a lot which I
Speaker 1: had never given him, like like shelf in those boxes
Speaker 1: in the boxes, which I've never I didn't know if
Speaker 1: he would have some. You know, I just my dad
Speaker 1: and I like ran to the grocery shore and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: Albie has like, you know, his two bottles of milk
Speaker 1: every single day. And I was like, oh, ship, there's
Speaker 1: no milk here. The milk that I know, like in
Speaker 1: a refrigerator like this is like it's all on a
Speaker 1: shelf and it's like powder or whatever. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But he did fine with it. Yeah, he had diarrhea
Speaker 1: for like a day or doing. Then it was fine.
Speaker 1: He loved it. And actually then the whole family loved it.
Speaker 1: Everyone was like trying it with like our oreos at
Speaker 1: night and we were like, holy sh it, this Parmelant
Speaker 1: is freaking amazing, And then we were putting it in
Speaker 1: our coffee like its delicious. There's certain things you can
Speaker 1: get on the other side that you don't need to pack,
Speaker 1: like diapers white although some countries diapers are weirdo. You
Speaker 1: can't get some generation and I haven't found that Amazon.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're flying domestically and you're doing it,
Speaker 1: I definitely Amazon in advance a thing of diapers, a
Speaker 1: thing of wipes, a thing of baby octop Yeah, I
Speaker 1: sent it to my family's house in advance because I
Speaker 1: don't want to fly with that stuff. And then also
Speaker 1: it's so great to get there and not have to
Speaker 1: do an additional run to the grocery store, Like you
Speaker 1: show up and there's already diapers, wipes, the soap that
Speaker 1: I use in the bath, like the few basic things.
Speaker 1: Um uh. I do think that people go can go
Speaker 1: a little overboard with the gear though, like I have seen,
Speaker 1: at a certain point you have to just say enough
Speaker 1: and that like we're going somewhere that people live and
Speaker 1: it's going to be accessible, yes, you know, maybe yes.
Speaker 1: Like the pack and play or the sleeping situation, whatever
Speaker 1: is you feel comfortable with. That's always very key. The
Speaker 1: love ees. I always pack a love in the suitcase
Speaker 1: and then bring one on the plane just in case
Speaker 1: a lovee gets the luggage gets lost or whatever, like
Speaker 1: my kids need to sleep. But the genius I never
Speaker 1: even thought about that. I always check the lovees. I
Speaker 1: don't even think at the time the lovey got lost.
Speaker 1: It's not cute, Oh my god. A love e is
Speaker 1: just like the little baby, a little blank in the
Speaker 1: little blank that goes in their crib, that whatever little
Speaker 1: thing that they've had since they were a baby, that
Speaker 1: they always sleep within their crib. It's like a lot
Speaker 1: of babies have a little teddy bear teddy bear or
Speaker 1: a little blankie or something like that, and a lot
Speaker 1: of parents will have a few of them so that
Speaker 1: when one eventually gets lost their comfort objects. Yes, their
Speaker 1: comfort objects, so you fly with one and you check one,
Speaker 1: which is genius. Um, what about routine, Like if you're
Speaker 1: someone who's really on a good sleep schedule, want a
Speaker 1: good eating schedule, that is you're like pretty stuck with
Speaker 1: I think that holds a lot of people back from
Speaker 1: traveling to They get scared. They get really scared about
Speaker 1: time changes and how they're going to do it and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. How do you handle it well? As
Speaker 1: you know, my kids are not great sleepers, and it's nothing.
Speaker 1: They just really like to be alive in a week
Speaker 1: and like part of this world. So I think it's
Speaker 1: just that part we just it's like you're going to travel,
Speaker 1: it's going to be different anyways. You know, we go
Speaker 1: with we go with God. But um, yeah, I always
Speaker 1: think that you know, the nap we're not ones to
Speaker 1: try to skip naps. I do believe that, like you know,
Speaker 1: but when you're traveling, sometimes they have to nap on
Speaker 1: and go, or you think about it, like, okay, they're
Speaker 1: going to do We're bringing the stroller, so we'll do
Speaker 1: like a stroller nap or a car nap. Trying to
Speaker 1: time out your your road trip or whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: part of the days for the nap so that you
Speaker 1: can get that out of the way. You know. Sometimes
Speaker 1: my kids have had a hard time napping in like
Speaker 1: unusual hotel rooms or whatever, and so I usually try
Speaker 1: to figure out how to do nap on the go
Speaker 1: um bedtime. It really depends on the time change, you know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like if you're travling to the East Coast,
Speaker 1: it's nice to keep the l A kids on the
Speaker 1: East Coast schedule, which I know you just did. I
Speaker 1: rock that. My whole family's on the East Coast, And
Speaker 1: obviously we live in l A. And it is the
Speaker 1: ship like because he sleeps seven to seven here. So
Speaker 1: when I go back to the East Coast for the
Speaker 1: holidays at any point, which we do every year for
Speaker 1: every freaking holiday, we just do ten to ten. So like,
Speaker 1: what's great about that? Is he wakes up at like nine,
Speaker 1: ten o'clock in the morning, he takes a nap three
Speaker 1: hours later, he takes another nap three hours later, and
Speaker 1: then he's up, you know, from six to ten at night,
Speaker 1: and he has dinner with the whole family will take
Speaker 1: him out to dinner. It's wonderful. I just keep him
Speaker 1: on his exact l A schedule, and I just move
Speaker 1: it three hours later. What happens with my kids. We
Speaker 1: go to the East Coast. It's like that for two days,
Speaker 1: and then because they love to be awake the sun,
Speaker 1: they just start waking up. Or if you're going like
Speaker 1: to Hawaii or you're going west from here, and then
Speaker 1: you're up at four in the morning, and that's not fun.
Speaker 1: But it's usually just a day or two, I say,
Speaker 1: especially like going to someplace I think is easier than
Speaker 1: coming home. Yeah, how is the home transition for you?
Speaker 1: It's always a ship show. Yeah, but like you've said,
Speaker 1: you've never found it to not be worth it exactly,
Speaker 1: and you know it might be hard coming back for
Speaker 1: a couple of days or whatever, but there's also a
Speaker 1: comfort about everyone's got their own beds there, you know,
Speaker 1: like the routine, the night that your your back. There's
Speaker 1: something about that that's very also soothing for them. So
Speaker 1: it might be rough depending on where you've been. But
Speaker 1: have you ever flown with the kids by yourself? I don't, Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't take a friend. I mean it is. I mean,
Speaker 1: single moms out there, we've had some of you on
Speaker 1: Katie's crib. It is. It is the realist thing. I
Speaker 1: just traveled with him by myself over on an overnight flight,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to prove to myself that I could
Speaker 1: more than anything. Like Adam so wonderful and he's such
Speaker 1: an involved dad, and he's so helpful on the plane,
Speaker 1: Like I don't even think I've ever before that had
Speaker 1: ever changed Alby's diaper on a plane, because Adam just
Speaker 1: does it every time, which is the jam. Also, by
Speaker 1: the way, we play in the bathroom for a good
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. That's like another event on the plane is like,
Speaker 1: oh he's the bathroom. Okay, we're gonna pull down the
Speaker 1: changing table. He's gonna sit on it for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: He's going to pull out all these tissues and we're
Speaker 1: gonna put them back. Then he's going to play with
Speaker 1: the soap that we're gonna put that back, like it's
Speaker 1: just oh, another activity where he's like being held down. Um.
Speaker 1: But I flew by myself overnight to Buffalo for Christmas,
Speaker 1: and it was he didn't sleep for one minute. I
Speaker 1: blest an entire night of sleep. I walked probably seven
Speaker 1: miles up and down the fucking aisle for five hours
Speaker 1: while he did back bends and screamed and punched me
Speaker 1: in the face. And it was the first time I
Speaker 1: ever like kind of grab I mean, I don't grab him,
Speaker 1: but I like held his arms and I was like
Speaker 1: looked him in the eye and I was like, please,
Speaker 1: please stop, please, like I had been pushed to the
Speaker 1: brink without a break. And then my you know what.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, this is why it's really
Speaker 1: interesting being an older mom, because my back from carrying
Speaker 1: him up and down aisles for five hours was like
Speaker 1: on a fire. Like I just was like, this is
Speaker 1: so much pain. Oh. I always bring aspen for myself. Oh,
Speaker 1: great advil for yourself. You're going to be in some
Speaker 1: weird positions. We always bring the ergo on the plane
Speaker 1: to which is the baby carrier, because we'll do breaks
Speaker 1: where like he'll play in the seat, and then we'll
Speaker 1: hold him walking up down the aisle, but then we'll
Speaker 1: put him in the carrier, which gives your arms sort
Speaker 1: of a break, but then it screws up your back.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's always just about like what body part
Speaker 1: is being injured at this point. Well, and you had
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier with the bulkhead, which I'm such a huge
Speaker 1: fan of, there's anyway you can get those seats first.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a little tricky to take off the
Speaker 1: landing because you have to store things up above whatever.
Speaker 1: But having a little play area if your kids are
Speaker 1: old enough to sort of like have an activity on
Speaker 1: the floor there, you know, bulkhead is the jam. We
Speaker 1: build like a blockade so that he can't get to
Speaker 1: the aisle and we just put Adams like backpack there
Speaker 1: and then we throw all his toys on the floor
Speaker 1: of the bulkhead and it's like having a little playroom
Speaker 1: right now. Thank God. Can I tell you also what
Speaker 1: I do. The first thing I do when I get
Speaker 1: on the plane is I bring wet once antibacterial wipes
Speaker 1: and I just wipe every surface. Seat belt. You have
Speaker 1: to trade to people who are moms because my mom
Speaker 1: my aunt Glenda is a flight attendant and I love
Speaker 1: her very much, and she confided in me, and now
Speaker 1: I will confide in all of you that those tray
Speaker 1: tables and TVs are very rarely, if ever cleaned. So
Speaker 1: um so, all y'all traveling and don't want the flu
Speaker 1: in this? Then the other thing. You might be the
Speaker 1: psychopath that everyone judges why you're taking out your chlorox wipes,
Speaker 1: but I wipe that down. Don't care well. Also for babies,
Speaker 1: because he does put the remote in his mouth. It
Speaker 1: does like the television. He does do all of those things.
Speaker 1: They're my kids. Faces are on the windows and lifting
Speaker 1: and closing the windows and like blowing on the window
Speaker 1: mains and stuff. I'm just imagining all the hands and
Speaker 1: if lifting clothes, you know, great tips. Uh. We've talked
Speaker 1: a lot about the stress involving ravel, But what are
Speaker 1: okay when we say, which I think is really the
Speaker 1: point of this episode, that it is worth it? Why
Speaker 1: do you think so? Like? What is your I think,
Speaker 1: first of all, travel is not just the trip, but
Speaker 1: it's looking forward to the trip and it's planning it.
Speaker 1: And that brings me joy in advance of the trip,
Speaker 1: and for me that's a hobby and it's something I
Speaker 1: really love to do. So it's kind of like not
Speaker 1: just a week in time or whatever, but it's the
Speaker 1: whole leading up to it which gives me energy. Um,
Speaker 1: and the anticipation of it and then knowing that it's
Speaker 1: never going to be how you anticipate it, but um,
Speaker 1: to let go of that and to be in it,
Speaker 1: it's almost like a mindfulness thing and it's it's so
Speaker 1: amazing and I I just at this point in time,
Speaker 1: I'm not picking places that are going to be super
Speaker 1: challenging as far as like planes, trains and automobiles and
Speaker 1: you know, maybe cities that are difficult to get through
Speaker 1: and get around. But rather I'm looking for a place
Speaker 1: that have a lot of natural beauty that will be
Speaker 1: welcoming with the kids, that I can sort of have
Speaker 1: an easy going kind of landing experience and just kind
Speaker 1: of go with it. But um, for me, it's just
Speaker 1: so life affirming to be around people of different cultures
Speaker 1: and to hear their stories and to eat the food
Speaker 1: and not just try to recreate my own life in
Speaker 1: another country, but to kind of be a family in
Speaker 1: another country and see kind of and just absorb and learn,
Speaker 1: you know, from the world around me. When people say
Speaker 1: that thing, I'm like, well, it's not worth it. The
Speaker 1: kids don't remember it or things like that. Do you
Speaker 1: feel like you're giving them memories or life lessons or
Speaker 1: like how do they does Laslow? Like I'm dreaming bit
Speaker 1: like does Laslow remember these things? He's starting to? I
Speaker 1: have thought about that, And there's a lot of things.
Speaker 1: You know, he does not remember, you what Tomahow and all,
Speaker 1: but there are a lot of things now he remembers.
Speaker 1: You know. Surprisingly, his memory is very sharp, and I
Speaker 1: think even if he doesn't remember it, it's in his fabric,
Speaker 1: it's in his muscles somewhere of that. And also it's
Speaker 1: my memory. I remember it, and you know, frankly need that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're building the memories. The biggest thing that one of
Speaker 1: the loveliest things that Adam has done so far as
Speaker 1: a dad was we went to Barcelona, as I said,
Speaker 1: and again it was something like I wanted to prove
Speaker 1: to myself that we could do it. Um. But he
Speaker 1: when we came back, made a children's book that had
Speaker 1: pictures of Albie in Spain with like you know, when
Speaker 1: we saw a church or this, and then each word
Speaker 1: in Spanish, so that it's like a Spanish picture book.
Speaker 1: But like Adam was like then that way when albis
Speaker 1: like three or four or five, six, and we're going
Speaker 1: to build books like a library of the places in
Speaker 1: the world he has seen. And I'm hoping that it
Speaker 1: affects his memory, that he remembers that the world is
Speaker 1: a big place and he's been like super fortunate to
Speaker 1: see some of it. And I hope that he gets
Speaker 1: the travel bug. You know, I growing up, we just
Speaker 1: went on road trips to my grandparents or camping, say,
Speaker 1: we never took vacations like so maybe for me it's
Speaker 1: more exciting and part of what I want to do
Speaker 1: because I didn't have that as a kid. So maybe
Speaker 1: our kids will not have that. See, maybe they'll be
Speaker 1: spoiled bread I didn't. Yeah, my kids like my first
Speaker 1: speech vacation with Fiji. I know exactly. It could be
Speaker 1: a total jerk that way, but you're right for us,
Speaker 1: for us, for you, Um this is so I could
Speaker 1: talk about this stuff for hours and we travel is
Speaker 1: literally one of my life passions and where I feel happiest.
Speaker 1: I think it's not coincidental that when I travel with
Speaker 1: our family, our phones are off. We're very present with
Speaker 1: each other, um, which I think is what offsets the
Speaker 1: stress of travel, Like I think is stressful as it
Speaker 1: is to fly and pack and be prepared and send
Speaker 1: ship there in advance, and what are you gonna do
Speaker 1: about food and there is no milk and all that
Speaker 1: stuff Once you get there, You've set aside that time
Speaker 1: for vacation and for experience. And I mean we turn
Speaker 1: off our phone. We only check our phones once a day.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like a totally different thing. And I
Speaker 1: feel like that's worth it sure, an opportunity to unplug
Speaker 1: and just kind of be where you are, and it's huge.
Speaker 1: I think it's really and it's a great privilege. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, we have We are lucky to be
Speaker 1: able to even have this conversation, you know. So I'm
Speaker 1: not looking forward to when Alby's over to and I
Speaker 1: have to buy him a flight. I'm like, what how
Speaker 1: two kids over to and tickets and then from there?
Speaker 1: Now I know my parents only took us on road trips.
Speaker 1: Is there any advice you want to give to moms
Speaker 1: who might be afraid of traveling or might be having
Speaker 1: their first travel coming up or well. I think that
Speaker 1: it depends. Like if you're just have you have to
Speaker 1: go to your in laws or to your family, or
Speaker 1: you have to do something, then you know you might
Speaker 1: be nervous, but it's just it's not even an option.
Speaker 1: So just to arm yourself with as much you know,
Speaker 1: help And luckily my partner is great trading off. Like
Speaker 1: I might have a really rough night with my kids,
Speaker 1: but like we have a deal where I get to
Speaker 1: take like an early morning nap and he takes a
Speaker 1: turn with the kids and then after that point, you know,
Speaker 1: all is well. We can deal. It's just as its
Speaker 1: taking care of yourself in little baby steps, like what
Speaker 1: do you need to get through this day? I have
Speaker 1: sobbed on planes lots of times, ben totally overwhelmed, and
Speaker 1: it's just part of it. I think, like you're still
Speaker 1: doing it. I still do it. Why I'm crazy, You're
Speaker 1: you're so awesome, And I think you have to take
Speaker 1: care of yourself and also as a person, like if
Speaker 1: travel is something important to you and you had that
Speaker 1: bug and spark and you did that when you were
Speaker 1: you know, before you had kids, then maybe honor that
Speaker 1: and you know, don't shut that off just because you
Speaker 1: have kids. But give him a chance to see what happens,
Speaker 1: and if it all goes horribly well, you can that happens,
Speaker 1: you know, and you can change again, like kids change
Speaker 1: so much, like they might be terrible at it too
Speaker 1: and then great at it at five. Like it's so,
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't wait. Albi's not at the age
Speaker 1: at where he understands stories on an iPad, so I
Speaker 1: don't have it's just me entertaining him for six hours,
Speaker 1: but like we're longer. But as soon as he gets
Speaker 1: like good at watching a movie, hello, I can't oh,
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to put him down in front of
Speaker 1: a screen. I mean, I I'm not a screen person otherwise,
Speaker 1: but for travel, forget it. Sure, And you know, there's
Speaker 1: all kinds of little devices you can get, like earphone
Speaker 1: splitters if you have two kids so that they can
Speaker 1: share one iPad, or you know, there's these amazing like
Speaker 1: battery charger packs you can you know, because things run
Speaker 1: out of charge. Not all airplanes have the charging stuff
Speaker 1: on them. And there's a whole industry of travel stuff,
Speaker 1: which I'm not really you know, great at getting everything,
Speaker 1: but there are assumptions of travel travel hacks. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: The first time a bunch of my friends travel, they
Speaker 1: were like all calling the airlines in advance, like do
Speaker 1: we need the birth certificate? Do I need a passport?
Speaker 1: Even though I'm only traveling domestically, Like what are you?
Speaker 1: What do you bring for that kind of stuff? I
Speaker 1: have been stopped at the gate by UM flight attendants
Speaker 1: who want most UM. My daughter has let me, how
Speaker 1: do I price having to get in my head about
Speaker 1: this UM when traveling, I've had to show my daughter's
Speaker 1: passport or proof that she's not too. If you have
Speaker 1: a toddler who looks maybe like they're a little bit older,
Speaker 1: they will sometimes asked to see said they're not too,
Speaker 1: but like I think Southwest always checks UM. But you
Speaker 1: can usually get by with a picture of it, of
Speaker 1: their passport if you show them a picture or some
Speaker 1: kind of proof. I think I showed him in Instagram
Speaker 1: birth announcement that had my daughters like that had the
Speaker 1: date on it, and they were like, okay, that's fine,
Speaker 1: like they let that go. But in general, I always
Speaker 1: have a picture of their passport because something happens with
Speaker 1: the actual passports or whatever like that. So you always
Speaker 1: travel with, which is really smart. Domestically, I don't take
Speaker 1: my kids passports, but I'll have a picture of their
Speaker 1: passports on my phone. Great, okay, so a picture of
Speaker 1: their passports on their phone for domestic And I did
Speaker 1: travel when I first traveling with him with his birth
Speaker 1: certificate because that's what I was supposed to do and
Speaker 1: no one ever asked me for it. So like, I
Speaker 1: have no idea now that he has a passport, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, for all of you guys, if you're
Speaker 1: interested in getting you kids pasport is the cutest freaking
Speaker 1: thing in the entire world. Like his passport photo is
Speaker 1: I cannot it is so cute. Um, we travel with that,
Speaker 1: Um if we're flying outside of the country, but in
Speaker 1: the country, Yeah, I don't bring it, but I do
Speaker 1: have a photo of it on my phone just in case.
Speaker 1: That's a smart idea. And he's getting older, so you
Speaker 1: might get asked next time you go he is he
Speaker 1: too because you are because you should have paid for
Speaker 1: this a seat for him? Yeah, or they just want
Speaker 1: to see because I guess I can imagine people try
Speaker 1: to get away with that. Hell yeah, save that money
Speaker 1: to last months. You know. It's like still my god.
Speaker 1: But as far as documents, you know, I have been
Speaker 1: places where they, like a daycare that wanted to see
Speaker 1: his communization records or whatever. But that stuff is all
Speaker 1: question we ever talked about. Have you hired babysitters in
Speaker 1: foreign countries or or any were on vacation, because some
Speaker 1: people are really nervous about that, Like some people are
Speaker 1: very like you know, sometimes hotels have daycare offered or
Speaker 1: like nanny's for like not that much, and you can
Speaker 1: hire a nanny to come to your hotel room at
Speaker 1: nights that you and your husband can go out to
Speaker 1: dinner or like you and your parents or whatever. Have
Speaker 1: you done that before? Yes, we've hired, Um, we've hired
Speaker 1: babysitters through hotels in foreign countries and um it was
Speaker 1: I trusted them and it was fine. It was you know,
Speaker 1: were they the best babies that I've ever had? No?
Speaker 1: You know, I've fired babysitters through friends in cities and
Speaker 1: then wished I had gone through the hotel because these
Speaker 1: people ended up being kind of like, you know, wackos.
Speaker 1: So sometimes maybe your friends are not as vetted as
Speaker 1: like the hotel, which is like like the certified, like
Speaker 1: like chances are a lot of times if you're hiring
Speaker 1: a nanny through a resort or through a hotel or
Speaker 1: through something like that, they've had to be CPR trained,
Speaker 1: they've had to have a lot of experience, background checks,
Speaker 1: things like that. So most of the time, even though
Speaker 1: their personality wise might not be your exact am, they're
Speaker 1: probably experienced. Yeah. And I've had some sitters through friends
Speaker 1: who have been amazing too, And I felt so comfortable
Speaker 1: because I at least had one degree of separation and
Speaker 1: I knew a person and their kids, and I felt
Speaker 1: so comfortable. I think it really comes down to your comfort.
Speaker 1: Like I was so nervous dropping my son off at
Speaker 1: his first like daycare in a foreign city. I think
Speaker 1: it was like a ski trip and toe or something,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, terrified, And it was fine.
Speaker 1: He had a blast and it was it was all good.
Speaker 1: But I think trying to fold in some sort of
Speaker 1: childcare into your trips so you can maybe have an
Speaker 1: opportunity with your partner to go out to dinner and
Speaker 1: do something is nice. And you know, what about have
Speaker 1: you ever heard of these things? Like I've had friends
Speaker 1: text and asked like, so is it bad if We're
Speaker 1: like in a hotel room and the monitors on, and
Speaker 1: we go down to the restaurant in the hotel to
Speaker 1: like go out to dinner, and no, I'm seriously, these
Speaker 1: are the texts I get, like, Okay, we're in Mexico
Speaker 1: and our room is over here and the restaurant is
Speaker 1: like right across the pool, and if our monitors on,
Speaker 1: can we go out to dinner and get waste? Did?
Speaker 1: Like what's everyone's failing on that? What do you think?
Speaker 1: I haven't done it, but like I probably would do it.
Speaker 1: I thought about doing it in the Dominican Republic, Like
Speaker 1: we had the hotel room right next to the bar
Speaker 1: and my parents were meeting there for like a drink
Speaker 1: at five, and Albie was still napping, and I was
Speaker 1: like the monitors on my phone like I'm literally looking
Speaker 1: at him and I am literally, I don't know, thirty
Speaker 1: five steps away. So I mean he ended up waking
Speaker 1: up and it didn't happen. But I was almost doing it,
Speaker 1: Like I was almost like it's fine, saying we almost
Speaker 1: did it once, and we was before video monitors, so
Speaker 1: we had like the sound monitor, and then I think,
Speaker 1: my oh no, how is it? I think my husband,
Speaker 1: and so his phone was on and we had a phone,
Speaker 1: so we were like listening and we walked but I
Speaker 1: think we'd like chickened out, Like we walked out ten
Speaker 1: minutes and then we're Some people are pretty brave about it.
Speaker 1: Like I have a friend on a tour right now
Speaker 1: of a show. You know, she's in a music coal
Speaker 1: tour around the country, and her babies with her and
Speaker 1: um they're staying. So they're in a lot of hotels,
Speaker 1: a lot, and she'll get out of the show to
Speaker 1: eleven PM and like the babies asleep and they have
Speaker 1: the monitor on, and like her and her husband go
Speaker 1: down to the hotel bar and they just like have
Speaker 1: drinks and she's like, I mean, god forbid that one
Speaker 1: time though, It's like that terror would live within me.
Speaker 1: But like what would happen? I mean, I guess it's scary.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm sure like thirty years ago,
Speaker 1: I mean, oh my god, Like my mother in law
Speaker 1: would be having a heart attack right now. But like
Speaker 1: my parents, I used to my parents used to take
Speaker 1: us camping every year and we would be asleep in
Speaker 1: the cabin, all the babies, and my parents would be
Speaker 1: like down the row of cabins at the fire pit
Speaker 1: with everybody like drinking a thousand beers, roasting hot dogs,
Speaker 1: and we were far away in the cabin, and they're like,
Speaker 1: we would just hear, like you could scream, like if
Speaker 1: you woke up, Like you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: just were so attle bit protective, protective, and we are
Speaker 1: always nervous of the worst scenario happening. So I'm curious
Speaker 1: of how other moms speaking to worst case scenario. You know.
Speaker 1: I know I've texted you a picture of the amount
Speaker 1: of medication I take to foreign countries because um, my doctor,
Speaker 1: you know, he said, like, look, if you're in Hawaii,
Speaker 1: I can call you in a Z pack or whatever
Speaker 1: for the kid, but like if you're in Figiarior and
Speaker 1: the one of these other crazy places, like it's going
Speaker 1: to be more difficult. So let me just give you
Speaker 1: this um prescription in advance, and you have it in
Speaker 1: your bag and you're ready to go. So I always
Speaker 1: bring like some kind of antibiotic. Couldn't so smart, huge
Speaker 1: travel tip. I used to do that for myself when
Speaker 1: we would travel along, like when we went to Africa,
Speaker 1: I brought like or anywhere we would go, I would
Speaker 1: bring U T I medicine, travelers, diarrhea, medicine, infection, East infection, Hello,
Speaker 1: give me dice blue cans. But like I would travel
Speaker 1: with that stuff because you come on, we're we know,
Speaker 1: like you got East infection, We like know what's happening,
Speaker 1: and like I don't you know? So you don't want
Speaker 1: to like four days to to find a monest at
Speaker 1: seven that's like hundreds of years old. Um, But this
Speaker 1: is a great call with babies too. If you go
Speaker 1: to a place that it might not be easily accessible
Speaker 1: to you to go to your pediatrician and say, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm traveling to this foreign country that it might not
Speaker 1: be so easy to get stuff. What do you recommend taking?
Speaker 1: Can I take one antibiotic with me? Should I take
Speaker 1: cold serap, cough syrup? Of your child's of age to
Speaker 1: be taking that stuff exactly? My son has really bad
Speaker 1: egg amunt so we always have like different kinds of
Speaker 1: the hydro cortisone creams and the things that we can
Speaker 1: have just extra. There's like an antibiotic ointment in case
Speaker 1: one of his eximas gets infected. You know, things like
Speaker 1: that that would be hard. And again you could go
Speaker 1: down a crazy wormhole and go way overboard on this stuff.
Speaker 1: So it's not really necessary in general, but um, for
Speaker 1: places where it might be a little more off the
Speaker 1: beaten path, I definitely recommend that. So smart. You are
Speaker 1: my travel and friend goals guru of having amazing, awesome
Speaker 1: kids who are world travelers like their mommy. Um, and
Speaker 1: I hope I'm sitting here in three or four years
Speaker 1: saying that I went to feed you with two children
Speaker 1: and I was brave enough to do it well. Likewise,
Speaker 1: you are an incredible traveler with your son eating already
Speaker 1: taken into such amazing places, and gosh, do all your
Speaker 1: listeners know how wonderful you are? You love you travel together,
Speaker 1: kids together. That's our next live podcast. Yeah, come on, guys,
Speaker 1: will live stream our travels of the plane with our
Speaker 1: children's throwing up and watching iPads. Thank you so much
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