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Speaker 1: Hi everybody, and welcome back to Katie's Crib. In this episode,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about one of my favorite topics, travel, but

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Speaker 1: now we're talking about travel with kids. So it's super stressful,

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Speaker 1: I know, for a lot of people to travel on

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Speaker 1: your own and then adding a baby into the mix,

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Speaker 1: it is just it can be a lot. And just

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Speaker 1: because you have a baby, it does not mean you, guys,

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, you just need to visit a family

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Speaker 1: member far away, or sometimes you just like need a vacation,

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Speaker 1: you know, and we're here to tell you that it

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Speaker 1: is possible and you can do it without losing your

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Speaker 1: freaking mind. Okay, we are here today with one of

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Speaker 1: my best friends in the entire world. It is the one,

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Speaker 1: the only, Samantha Sky Shelton who has the most beautiful

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Speaker 1: She is a really freaking good friend of mine. And

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Speaker 1: also you guys, she is the incredible singer and talent

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Speaker 1: that you hear on the music at the end and

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Speaker 1: the beginning of this podcast. You know when it says

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Speaker 1: you do it, yeah that do it, do it, do

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Speaker 1: it my way? And also just why I I was

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Speaker 1: sam Shelton's backup singer for a good many years before scandal.

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Speaker 1: When we would where would we perform? Oh, all over

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, the clubs of l A. And now I

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Speaker 1: would happily be your backup singer. I would be your

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Speaker 1: backup singer any day of the week. All I can

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Speaker 1: remember was at a time in my life where I

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Speaker 1: thought wearing navy blue sequin booty shorts with like high

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Speaker 1: was like a backup singing. It was just to hang

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Speaker 1: out and practice, like the songs and harmonizing stuff. It

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Speaker 1: was an opportunity to chill. And you know how we

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Speaker 1: figured that out week. Okay. So Sam and I met

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Speaker 1: in an acting class a hundred thousand years ago, Mark

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Speaker 1: Casey's acting class. And then her husband Stephen and my

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Speaker 1: husband Adam became friends separately, and then we put two

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Speaker 1: was just on, and it's been on for ten years

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Speaker 1: or something like that. Craziness. Um. Sam has always been

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Speaker 1: before babies, a traveling guru, like so sweet, No, you

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Speaker 1: do love to travel? Traveling has been like it has been.

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Speaker 1: Tell us like some of the places you went to before?

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Speaker 1: What did your travel life look like before when you

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Speaker 1: were not well. I have always approached traveling like not

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Speaker 1: so much as taking a vacation, but rather as like

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Speaker 1: just it's part of my own experience on this planet.

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Speaker 1: I just want to see the world. I want to

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Speaker 1: see as much as I can, and there is still

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Speaker 1: so many more places to go. And you have seen

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Speaker 1: a lot more places probably than I have. But I

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Speaker 1: mean some of my big adventures have been to Australia, Cambodia, Thailand,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, where did you go in Argentina? I want

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Speaker 1: But I think you have you know people have this, um,

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Speaker 1: have to tell us about your kids. You have to.

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Speaker 1: I have two adorable children, Laslow and Poppy. I mean, guys,

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Speaker 1: shushed us again. And Albie and Adam went up to

428
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: the gentleman and said, hey, is there a problem. Is

429
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,640
Speaker 1: there something we could be doing to make this flight better?

430
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm really sorry, And they said, this is ridiculous. We're

431
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 1: the only people that have the balls to speak up

432
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 1: in first class. But your baby is screaming and you

433
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: need to get control of your baby. And he I

434
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 1: heard this go down to which then I stood up

435
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: and said, excuse me, we're doing a great job. Our

436
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 1: baby hasn't even cried, and he's you need to be

437
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 1: walking your baby up and down the tile areas. I said, oh,

438
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: I took my hoops off, and I was like, do

439
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 1: you just hate babies or something? That's what I said.

440
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: This guy said, no, I have a daughter, and his

441
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 1: girlfriend was like, yeah, he has a daughter, and I

442
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 1: was like, well, obviously you're like a fucking horrible father. Um.

443
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: It was a nightmare. Uh. Thank god we didn't get

444
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 1: into an actual fight with them, because they were tan

445
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: and ripped as hell and they would have broken Adam

446
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 1: and I in fucking half. But they were horribly. They

447
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: hated the baby, they hated us. They said we paid

448
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: for this flight, and I said, you know, we've paid

449
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 1: for first class as well, and we have every right

450
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 1: to be here. We got the bulkhead and it was

451
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: absolutely what did the stewardists or the flight A flight

452
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 1: attendant came up and said came up and said, yes, sir,

453
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 1: you can't be constantly shushing the baby. In my fifteen

454
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: years of being a flight attendant, I've never seen behavior

455
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: like this. He asked for her name because he was

456
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 1: going to file a complaint with Delta, to which then

457
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 1: I said, well, yeah, what is your name because I'm

458
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: gonna be finally a compliment with Delta, which I did

459
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 1: for Stacy Brooks. I know you Stacy Brooks Delta flight.

460
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 1: I can't remember the number, but from Atlanta to No

461
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 1: Standard Domingo to it Ad Republic, no Punta Kana to Atlanta. Anyway,

462
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 1: this is my first and only running that has been

463
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: very negative. But since then I've done some research and

464
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: there are people who just really believe babies shouldn't be

465
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 1: in first class and maybe I don't know. I mean,

466
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: the only freaking problem is that I'm like Kim Kardashian

467
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: flies first class with her babies. I've seen her do that,

468
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: Like what do you do if you're someone who's in

469
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry? And when I fly economy, which I

470
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: do all the time with a hat and glasses, everyone

471
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: in the back of the airplane is always like, what

472
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: are you doing back here? And I'm like, well, I'm

473
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: just like a person like you with like my kid,

474
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, but you're on scandal and I'm

475
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 1: like yeah, but I'm also like an actor who's like

476
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 1: looking for a job. Do you know what I mean?

477
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: It gets very odd. Um, I think that's crazy. I've

478
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: never heard that about babies. But I think that if

479
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: I could afford to fly in business or first class

480
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: with my baby. I would absolutely a percent and do

481
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 1: that because that's going to give you a better experience

482
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: with your kid. And at the end of the day,

483
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: I think and this is probably a good rule of

484
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 1: thumb for travel in general, which is just you cannot

485
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 1: please all of the people all the time or care

486
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: about what people are thinking. Like if I see a

487
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: kid on a plane crying or whatever, I just want

488
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: to see that the parents are trying to do something,

489
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, that makes me feel like, well, what can

490
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: they do? But it looks like they care and they're

491
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: making an effort. Now Albie wasn't even crying, So these

492
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: people are insane and this is and it sounds like,

493
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you've traveled with your baby so many times

494
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: and this is definitely and this was Albi's thirteenth flight,

495
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,239
Speaker 1: and I've never had an experience like this, So this

496
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: is obviously the exception and not the rule. But I

497
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: think you're right. I think it comes into a lot

498
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: of like if you're someone who's you know, very attached

499
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: to what people think, this is the biggest exercise. Flying

500
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: with the baby is the biggest practice you will ever

501
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: have of just you cannot care not you can only

502
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: do what you can do exactly and find that meditative

503
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: place inside of you to just tune out the eyeballs

504
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: or whatever and just try to help your kid out

505
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 1: with whatever is going on. And you know, some there's

506
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: a reason, sometimes there's not. But you know, my daughter

507
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: screamed for about nine hours straight on an overnight flight.

508
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: And where are you going Fiji? I mean, you guys

509
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: babies to Fiji? Like this woman is a beast, Like

510
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: these are goals right now? These are goals because I cried,

511
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: like when I had a baby, we were making Albie,

512
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: Like one of the biggest concerns I had was that

513
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: I felt like my travel life was over, and because

514
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: Adam and I had been not working actors for so long,

515
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,239
Speaker 1: our travel life was very short. Like we had some

516
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: years where we actually could afford to see the world.

517
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: And I feel like you do. I feel like it's

518
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: my responsibility to try to see as much as I can.

519
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: And I love immersing myself in other cultures and other places.

520
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: And I just was very upset when I got pregnant,

521
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 1: like I don't want that to change. Um, And you're

522
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: such an inspiration to me. You really mean you've seen

523
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: that you have been everywhere the baby. Do you know that.

524
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, it's like

525
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: it's as hard as it can be. And you know,

526
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: the rough nights, the sleeping, you know, the jet lab whatever,

527
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 1: it's always worth it. I've never regretted a trip. I've

528
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: never regretted. And it's like time passes. You're on a

529
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: plane for ten freaking hours. It's going to end eventually,

530
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: and then you're going to be in Fiji or worry wherever.

531
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: And it's you know, if you can just keep your

532
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: head out of other people's you know, issues, issues, and

533
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: I'm focused on just getting through it and getting to

534
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 1: the next stage and taking a nap or you know,

535
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,959
Speaker 1: making it work with your partner. It's it's always worth it.

536
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: What about UM now that we've gotten off the plane, which, guys,

537
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: that is the big That is big. That is a

538
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: big part of it. Let's talk about hotel situations, staying

539
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: with friends, relatives, like what do you prefer um. We've

540
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: done a lot of airbnb s and um rentals and

541
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: that's always great and fun, especially if you know you

542
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 1: want to have a fridge or you're making your breakfast

543
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: for your kids or whatever, like that's always great. On

544
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: the other hand, it can mean that you're also doing

545
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: exactly what you do at home on vacation with a

546
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: million dishes a day, or you know, step two. So

547
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: I can see the benefit of just like the room

548
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: service the hotel. I think that's a really good idea

549
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: because I have found so far in our baby I'll

550
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: be travels that like, yes, having a house is sort

551
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: of a better situation because there's like a bathtub and

552
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: like some of these nice hotel rooms only have a shower,

553
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: or like you know, we have a full kitchen so

554
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: I can do his food. But you're right, like, then

555
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: you're just doing the same ship you do. You've brought

556
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: all this gear from home, all the pouches and the

557
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: things and the spoons and the sippy cups that you

558
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,239
Speaker 1: like to have at home. And then the next thing,

559
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: you know, you're like doing the same thing you're doing home,

560
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: and you're ever thought about it like that, Um, when

561
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: you're traveling, what are you what are the things that

562
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: you UM? Space is also important, so it's like a

563
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: hotel rooms don't often have you know, the best space,

564
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: and I know you've like I'll be slept in many

565
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: a bathroom with many bath to get the black out.

566
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: We have these baby this travel we take it when

567
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: we travel. We take his travel crib everywhere. It's thirteen

568
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: pounds so it's so light, and we pop that ship open.

569
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: Everywhere we've been. He's lucky if he gets a room.

570
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: Most of the time he doesn't. He's usually in like

571
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: a nicer sized bathroom with the door closet, a roomy closet.

572
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: We've done a bunch of those. I just is for me.

573
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: It's like, as long as I know there's air ventilation,

574
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: that's the only thing I get like a little bit

575
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: nervous about because you want there to be like a

576
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: fan or vents or whatever. Um but that white We

577
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: bring our white noise machine. We bring the travel crib,

578
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: We bring his sippy cups or bottles, and we always

579
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: bring I know it's not the best, but we do

580
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: bring pouches, you know, of the food and all that stuff.

581
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: Because sometimes we've traveled places where I just came to

582
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: our first experience in Dominican Republic, there was no milk. WHOA, like,

583
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: there's milk, but it's it's fun a lot which I

584
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: had never given him, like like shelf in those boxes

585
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: in the boxes, which I've never I didn't know if

586
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: he would have some. You know, I just my dad

587
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: and I like ran to the grocery shore and it's like, well,

588
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: Albie has like, you know, his two bottles of milk

589
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: every single day. And I was like, oh, ship, there's

590
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: no milk here. The milk that I know, like in

591
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: a refrigerator like this is like it's all on a

592
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: shelf and it's like powder or whatever. I don't know.

593
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: But he did fine with it. Yeah, he had diarrhea

594
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: for like a day or doing. Then it was fine.

595
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: He loved it. And actually then the whole family loved it.

596
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: Everyone was like trying it with like our oreos at

597
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: night and we were like, holy sh it, this Parmelant

598
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: is freaking amazing, And then we were putting it in

599
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: our coffee like its delicious. There's certain things you can

600
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: get on the other side that you don't need to pack,

601
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: like diapers white although some countries diapers are weirdo. You

602
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: can't get some generation and I haven't found that Amazon.

603
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're flying domestically and you're doing it,

604
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: I definitely Amazon in advance a thing of diapers, a

605
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: thing of wipes, a thing of baby octop Yeah, I

606
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: sent it to my family's house in advance because I

607
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: don't want to fly with that stuff. And then also

608
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: it's so great to get there and not have to

609
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: do an additional run to the grocery store, Like you

610
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: show up and there's already diapers, wipes, the soap that

611
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: I use in the bath, like the few basic things.

612
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: Um uh. I do think that people go can go

613
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: a little overboard with the gear though, like I have seen,

614
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: at a certain point you have to just say enough

615
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: and that like we're going somewhere that people live and

616
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: it's going to be accessible, yes, you know, maybe yes.

617
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: Like the pack and play or the sleeping situation, whatever

618
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: is you feel comfortable with. That's always very key. The

619
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: love ees. I always pack a love in the suitcase

620
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: and then bring one on the plane just in case

621
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: a lovee gets the luggage gets lost or whatever, like

622
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: my kids need to sleep. But the genius I never

623
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: even thought about that. I always check the lovees. I

624
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: don't even think at the time the lovey got lost.

625
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: It's not cute, Oh my god. A love e is

626
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: just like the little baby, a little blank in the

627
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: little blank that goes in their crib, that whatever little

628
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: thing that they've had since they were a baby, that

629
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: they always sleep within their crib. It's like a lot

630
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: of babies have a little teddy bear teddy bear or

631
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: a little blankie or something like that, and a lot

632
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 1: of parents will have a few of them so that

633
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: when one eventually gets lost their comfort objects. Yes, their

634
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: comfort objects, so you fly with one and you check one,

635
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: which is genius. Um, what about routine, Like if you're

636
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: someone who's really on a good sleep schedule, want a

637
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: good eating schedule, that is you're like pretty stuck with

638
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,479
Speaker 1: I think that holds a lot of people back from

639
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: traveling to They get scared. They get really scared about

640
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: time changes and how they're going to do it and

641
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: all that stuff. How do you handle it well? As

642
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: you know, my kids are not great sleepers, and it's nothing.

643
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: They just really like to be alive in a week

644
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: and like part of this world. So I think it's

645
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: just that part we just it's like you're going to travel,

646
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: it's going to be different anyways. You know, we go

647
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: with we go with God. But um, yeah, I always

648
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: think that you know, the nap we're not ones to

649
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: try to skip naps. I do believe that, like you know,

650
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: but when you're traveling, sometimes they have to nap on

651
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: and go, or you think about it, like, okay, they're

652
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,959
Speaker 1: going to do We're bringing the stroller, so we'll do

653
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: like a stroller nap or a car nap. Trying to

654
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: time out your your road trip or whatever, you know,

655
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: part of the days for the nap so that you

656
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: can get that out of the way. You know. Sometimes

657
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: my kids have had a hard time napping in like

658
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: unusual hotel rooms or whatever, and so I usually try

659
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: to figure out how to do nap on the go

660
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: um bedtime. It really depends on the time change, you know.

661
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like if you're travling to the East Coast,

662
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: it's nice to keep the l A kids on the

663
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: East Coast schedule, which I know you just did. I

664
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: rock that. My whole family's on the East Coast, And

665
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: obviously we live in l A. And it is the

666
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: ship like because he sleeps seven to seven here. So

667
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: when I go back to the East Coast for the

668
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: holidays at any point, which we do every year for

669
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: every freaking holiday, we just do ten to ten. So like,

670
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: what's great about that? Is he wakes up at like nine,

671
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: ten o'clock in the morning, he takes a nap three

672
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: hours later, he takes another nap three hours later, and

673
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: then he's up, you know, from six to ten at night,

674
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: and he has dinner with the whole family will take

675
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: him out to dinner. It's wonderful. I just keep him

676
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: on his exact l A schedule, and I just move

677
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: it three hours later. What happens with my kids. We

678
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: go to the East Coast. It's like that for two days,

679
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: and then because they love to be awake the sun,

680
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: they just start waking up. Or if you're going like

681
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: to Hawaii or you're going west from here, and then

682
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: you're up at four in the morning, and that's not fun.

683
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: But it's usually just a day or two, I say,

684
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 1: especially like going to someplace I think is easier than

685
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: coming home. Yeah, how is the home transition for you?

686
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: It's always a ship show. Yeah, but like you've said,

687
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: you've never found it to not be worth it exactly,

688
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: and you know it might be hard coming back for

689
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: a couple of days or whatever, but there's also a

690
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: comfort about everyone's got their own beds there, you know,

691
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: like the routine, the night that your your back. There's

692
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: something about that that's very also soothing for them. So

693
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: it might be rough depending on where you've been. But

694
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: have you ever flown with the kids by yourself? I don't, Yeah,

695
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: don't take a friend. I mean it is. I mean,

696
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: single moms out there, we've had some of you on

697
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: Katie's crib. It is. It is the realist thing. I

698
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: just traveled with him by myself over on an overnight flight,

699
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: and I wanted to prove to myself that I could

700
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: more than anything. Like Adam so wonderful and he's such

701
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: an involved dad, and he's so helpful on the plane,

702
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: Like I don't even think I've ever before that had

703
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: ever changed Alby's diaper on a plane, because Adam just

704
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: does it every time, which is the jam. Also, by

705
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: the way, we play in the bathroom for a good

706
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,239
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. That's like another event on the plane is like,

707
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: oh he's the bathroom. Okay, we're gonna pull down the

708
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: changing table. He's gonna sit on it for fifteen minutes.

709
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: He's going to pull out all these tissues and we're

710
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: gonna put them back. Then he's going to play with

711
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: the soap that we're gonna put that back, like it's

712
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 1: just oh, another activity where he's like being held down. Um.

713
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: But I flew by myself overnight to Buffalo for Christmas,

714
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: and it was he didn't sleep for one minute. I

715
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: blest an entire night of sleep. I walked probably seven

716
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: miles up and down the fucking aisle for five hours

717
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: while he did back bends and screamed and punched me

718
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: in the face. And it was the first time I

719
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: ever like kind of grab I mean, I don't grab him,

720
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: but I like held his arms and I was like

721
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: looked him in the eye and I was like, please,

722
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: please stop, please, like I had been pushed to the

723
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: brink without a break. And then my you know what.

724
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: And then I was like, this is why it's really

725
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: interesting being an older mom, because my back from carrying

726
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: him up and down aisles for five hours was like

727
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: on a fire. Like I just was like, this is

728
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: so much pain. Oh. I always bring aspen for myself. Oh,

729
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: great advil for yourself. You're going to be in some

730
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: weird positions. We always bring the ergo on the plane

731
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: to which is the baby carrier, because we'll do breaks

732
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: where like he'll play in the seat, and then we'll

733
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: hold him walking up down the aisle, but then we'll

734
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: put him in the carrier, which gives your arms sort

735
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: of a break, but then it screws up your back.

736
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's always just about like what body part

737
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: is being injured at this point. Well, and you had

738
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier with the bulkhead, which I'm such a huge

739
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: fan of, there's anyway you can get those seats first.

740
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a little tricky to take off the

741
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 1: landing because you have to store things up above whatever.

742
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: But having a little play area if your kids are

743
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: old enough to sort of like have an activity on

744
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: the floor there, you know, bulkhead is the jam. We

745
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: build like a blockade so that he can't get to

746
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: the aisle and we just put Adams like backpack there

747
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: and then we throw all his toys on the floor

748
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: of the bulkhead and it's like having a little playroom

749
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: right now. Thank God. Can I tell you also what

750
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: I do. The first thing I do when I get

751
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: on the plane is I bring wet once antibacterial wipes

752
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: and I just wipe every surface. Seat belt. You have

753
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: to trade to people who are moms because my mom

754
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: my aunt Glenda is a flight attendant and I love

755
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: her very much, and she confided in me, and now

756
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,479
Speaker 1: I will confide in all of you that those tray

757
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: tables and TVs are very rarely, if ever cleaned. So

758
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: um so, all y'all traveling and don't want the flu

759
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: in this? Then the other thing. You might be the

760
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: psychopath that everyone judges why you're taking out your chlorox wipes,

761
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: but I wipe that down. Don't care well. Also for babies,

762
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: because he does put the remote in his mouth. It

763
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: does like the television. He does do all of those things.

764
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: They're my kids. Faces are on the windows and lifting

765
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: and closing the windows and like blowing on the window

766
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: mains and stuff. I'm just imagining all the hands and

767
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: if lifting clothes, you know, great tips. Uh. We've talked

768
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: a lot about the stress involving ravel, But what are

769
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: okay when we say, which I think is really the

770
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: point of this episode, that it is worth it? Why

771
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: do you think so? Like? What is your I think,

772
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: first of all, travel is not just the trip, but

773
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: it's looking forward to the trip and it's planning it.

774
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: And that brings me joy in advance of the trip,

775
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: and for me that's a hobby and it's something I

776
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: really love to do. So it's kind of like not

777
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: just a week in time or whatever, but it's the

778
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: whole leading up to it which gives me energy. Um,

779
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: and the anticipation of it and then knowing that it's

780
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: never going to be how you anticipate it, but um,

781
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: to let go of that and to be in it,

782
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: it's almost like a mindfulness thing and it's it's so

783
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,479
Speaker 1: amazing and I I just at this point in time,

784
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm not picking places that are going to be super

785
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: challenging as far as like planes, trains and automobiles and

786
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, maybe cities that are difficult to get through

787
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 1: and get around. But rather I'm looking for a place

788
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: that have a lot of natural beauty that will be

789
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: welcoming with the kids, that I can sort of have

790
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: an easy going kind of landing experience and just kind

791
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: of go with it. But um, for me, it's just

792
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: so life affirming to be around people of different cultures

793
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: and to hear their stories and to eat the food

794
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: and not just try to recreate my own life in

795
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: another country, but to kind of be a family in

796
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: another country and see kind of and just absorb and learn,

797
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 1: you know, from the world around me. When people say

798
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: that thing, I'm like, well, it's not worth it. The

799
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: kids don't remember it or things like that. Do you

800
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: feel like you're giving them memories or life lessons or

801
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: like how do they does Laslow? Like I'm dreaming bit

802
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: like does Laslow remember these things? He's starting to? I

803
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: have thought about that, And there's a lot of things.

804
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 1: You know, he does not remember, you what Tomahow and all,

805
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: but there are a lot of things now he remembers.

806
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: You know. Surprisingly, his memory is very sharp, and I

807
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: think even if he doesn't remember it, it's in his fabric,

808
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: it's in his muscles somewhere of that. And also it's

809
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: my memory. I remember it, and you know, frankly need that. Yeah,

810
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: they're building the memories. The biggest thing that one of

811
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: the loveliest things that Adam has done so far as

812
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: a dad was we went to Barcelona, as I said,

813
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: and again it was something like I wanted to prove

814
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: to myself that we could do it. Um. But he

815
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: when we came back, made a children's book that had

816
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: pictures of Albie in Spain with like you know, when

817
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: we saw a church or this, and then each word

818
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: in Spanish, so that it's like a Spanish picture book.

819
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: But like Adam was like then that way when albis

820
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: like three or four or five, six, and we're going

821
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: to build books like a library of the places in

822
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: the world he has seen. And I'm hoping that it

823
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: affects his memory, that he remembers that the world is

824
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: a big place and he's been like super fortunate to

825
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: see some of it. And I hope that he gets

826
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: the travel bug. You know, I growing up, we just

827
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 1: went on road trips to my grandparents or camping, say,

828
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: we never took vacations like so maybe for me it's

829
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: more exciting and part of what I want to do

830
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 1: because I didn't have that as a kid. So maybe

831
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: our kids will not have that. See, maybe they'll be

832
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 1: spoiled bread I didn't. Yeah, my kids like my first

833
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: speech vacation with Fiji. I know exactly. It could be

834
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: a total jerk that way, but you're right for us,

835
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 1: for us, for you, Um this is so I could

836
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: talk about this stuff for hours and we travel is

837
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: literally one of my life passions and where I feel happiest.

838
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: I think it's not coincidental that when I travel with

839
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: our family, our phones are off. We're very present with

840
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: each other, um, which I think is what offsets the

841
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: stress of travel, Like I think is stressful as it

842
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: is to fly and pack and be prepared and send

843
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: ship there in advance, and what are you gonna do

844
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: about food and there is no milk and all that

845
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: stuff Once you get there, You've set aside that time

846
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: for vacation and for experience. And I mean we turn

847
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: off our phone. We only check our phones once a day.

848
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: You know. It's like a totally different thing. And I

849
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: feel like that's worth it sure, an opportunity to unplug

850
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: and just kind of be where you are, and it's huge.

851
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: I think it's really and it's a great privilege. I mean,

852
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: let's be honest, we have We are lucky to be

853
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: able to even have this conversation, you know. So I'm

854
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: not looking forward to when Alby's over to and I

855
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: have to buy him a flight. I'm like, what how

856
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: two kids over to and tickets and then from there?

857
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 1: Now I know my parents only took us on road trips.

858
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: Is there any advice you want to give to moms

859
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 1: who might be afraid of traveling or might be having

860
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: their first travel coming up or well. I think that

861
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: it depends. Like if you're just have you have to

862
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: go to your in laws or to your family, or

863
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: you have to do something, then you know you might

864
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: be nervous, but it's just it's not even an option.

865
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: So just to arm yourself with as much you know,

866
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: help And luckily my partner is great trading off. Like

867
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: I might have a really rough night with my kids,

868
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: but like we have a deal where I get to

869
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: take like an early morning nap and he takes a

870
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: turn with the kids and then after that point, you know,

871
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: all is well. We can deal. It's just as its

872
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: taking care of yourself in little baby steps, like what

873
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: do you need to get through this day? I have

874
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: sobbed on planes lots of times, ben totally overwhelmed, and

875
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: it's just part of it. I think, like you're still

876
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: doing it. I still do it. Why I'm crazy, You're

877
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: you're so awesome, And I think you have to take

878
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: care of yourself and also as a person, like if

879
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: travel is something important to you and you had that

880
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: bug and spark and you did that when you were

881
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: you know, before you had kids, then maybe honor that

882
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: and you know, don't shut that off just because you

883
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: have kids. But give him a chance to see what happens,

884
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: and if it all goes horribly well, you can that happens,

885
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: you know, and you can change again, like kids change

886
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: so much, like they might be terrible at it too

887
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: and then great at it at five. Like it's so,

888
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't wait. Albi's not at the age

889
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: at where he understands stories on an iPad, so I

890
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: don't have it's just me entertaining him for six hours,

891
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: but like we're longer. But as soon as he gets

892
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: like good at watching a movie, hello, I can't oh,

893
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to put him down in front of

894
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: a screen. I mean, I I'm not a screen person otherwise,

895
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: but for travel, forget it. Sure, And you know, there's

896
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: all kinds of little devices you can get, like earphone

897
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: splitters if you have two kids so that they can

898
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: share one iPad, or you know, there's these amazing like

899
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: battery charger packs you can you know, because things run

900
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 1: out of charge. Not all airplanes have the charging stuff

901
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: on them. And there's a whole industry of travel stuff,

902
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: which I'm not really you know, great at getting everything,

903
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: but there are assumptions of travel travel hacks. Yeah, I know.

904
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: The first time a bunch of my friends travel, they

905
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: were like all calling the airlines in advance, like do

906
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: we need the birth certificate? Do I need a passport?

907
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: Even though I'm only traveling domestically, Like what are you?

908
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: What do you bring for that kind of stuff? I

909
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: have been stopped at the gate by UM flight attendants

910
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: who want most UM. My daughter has let me, how

911
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: do I price having to get in my head about

912
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: this UM when traveling, I've had to show my daughter's

913
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: passport or proof that she's not too. If you have

914
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: a toddler who looks maybe like they're a little bit older,

915
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 1: they will sometimes asked to see said they're not too,

916
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: but like I think Southwest always checks UM. But you

917
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: can usually get by with a picture of it, of

918
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: their passport if you show them a picture or some

919
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: kind of proof. I think I showed him in Instagram

920
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: birth announcement that had my daughters like that had the

921
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: date on it, and they were like, okay, that's fine,

922
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: like they let that go. But in general, I always

923
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: have a picture of their passport because something happens with

924
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: the actual passports or whatever like that. So you always

925
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: travel with, which is really smart. Domestically, I don't take

926
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: my kids passports, but I'll have a picture of their

927
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: passports on my phone. Great, okay, so a picture of

928
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: their passports on their phone for domestic And I did

929
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 1: travel when I first traveling with him with his birth

930
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: certificate because that's what I was supposed to do and

931
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: no one ever asked me for it. So like, I

932
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: have no idea now that he has a passport, which,

933
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: by the way, for all of you guys, if you're

934
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: interested in getting you kids pasport is the cutest freaking

935
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: thing in the entire world. Like his passport photo is

936
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: I cannot it is so cute. Um, we travel with that,

937
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: Um if we're flying outside of the country, but in

938
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: the country, Yeah, I don't bring it, but I do

939
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,959
Speaker 1: have a photo of it on my phone just in case.

940
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: That's a smart idea. And he's getting older, so you

941
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: might get asked next time you go he is he

942
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: too because you are because you should have paid for

943
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: this a seat for him? Yeah, or they just want

944
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: to see because I guess I can imagine people try

945
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: to get away with that. Hell yeah, save that money

946
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: to last months. You know. It's like still my god.

947
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: But as far as documents, you know, I have been

948
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: places where they, like a daycare that wanted to see

949
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: his communization records or whatever. But that stuff is all

950
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: question we ever talked about. Have you hired babysitters in

951
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: foreign countries or or any were on vacation, because some

952
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: people are really nervous about that, Like some people are

953
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: very like you know, sometimes hotels have daycare offered or

954
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: like nanny's for like not that much, and you can

955
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: hire a nanny to come to your hotel room at

956
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: nights that you and your husband can go out to

957
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: dinner or like you and your parents or whatever. Have

958
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 1: you done that before? Yes, we've hired, Um, we've hired

959
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: babysitters through hotels in foreign countries and um it was

960
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: I trusted them and it was fine. It was you know,

961
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: were they the best babies that I've ever had? No?

962
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: You know, I've fired babysitters through friends in cities and

963
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: then wished I had gone through the hotel because these

964
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: people ended up being kind of like, you know, wackos.

965
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: So sometimes maybe your friends are not as vetted as

966
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: like the hotel, which is like like the certified, like

967
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: like chances are a lot of times if you're hiring

968
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: a nanny through a resort or through a hotel or

969
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 1: through something like that, they've had to be CPR trained,

970
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 1: they've had to have a lot of experience, background checks,

971
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: things like that. So most of the time, even though

972
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 1: their personality wise might not be your exact am, they're

973
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: probably experienced. Yeah. And I've had some sitters through friends

974
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: who have been amazing too, And I felt so comfortable

975
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: because I at least had one degree of separation and

976
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: I knew a person and their kids, and I felt

977
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: so comfortable. I think it really comes down to your comfort.

978
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: Like I was so nervous dropping my son off at

979
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: his first like daycare in a foreign city. I think

980
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: it was like a ski trip and toe or something,

981
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, terrified, And it was fine.

982
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: He had a blast and it was it was all good.

983
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: But I think trying to fold in some sort of

984
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: childcare into your trips so you can maybe have an

985
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: opportunity with your partner to go out to dinner and

986
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: do something is nice. And you know, what about have

987
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: you ever heard of these things? Like I've had friends

988
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: text and asked like, so is it bad if We're

989
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: like in a hotel room and the monitors on, and

990
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: we go down to the restaurant in the hotel to

991
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: like go out to dinner, and no, I'm seriously, these

992
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: are the texts I get, like, Okay, we're in Mexico

993
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: and our room is over here and the restaurant is

994
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: like right across the pool, and if our monitors on,

995
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: can we go out to dinner and get waste? Did?

996
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: Like what's everyone's failing on that? What do you think?

997
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: I haven't done it, but like I probably would do it.

998
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: I thought about doing it in the Dominican Republic, Like

999
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 1: we had the hotel room right next to the bar

1000
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: and my parents were meeting there for like a drink

1001
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: at five, and Albie was still napping, and I was

1002
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 1: like the monitors on my phone like I'm literally looking

1003
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 1: at him and I am literally, I don't know, thirty

1004
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: five steps away. So I mean he ended up waking

1005
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: up and it didn't happen. But I was almost doing it,

1006
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: Like I was almost like it's fine, saying we almost

1007
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: did it once, and we was before video monitors, so

1008
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: we had like the sound monitor, and then I think,

1009
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: my oh no, how is it? I think my husband,

1010
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: and so his phone was on and we had a phone,

1011
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 1: so we were like listening and we walked but I

1012
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: think we'd like chickened out, Like we walked out ten

1013
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: minutes and then we're Some people are pretty brave about it.

1014
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: Like I have a friend on a tour right now

1015
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: of a show. You know, she's in a music coal

1016
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: tour around the country, and her babies with her and

1017
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: um they're staying. So they're in a lot of hotels,

1018
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: a lot, and she'll get out of the show to

1019
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: eleven PM and like the babies asleep and they have

1020
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: the monitor on, and like her and her husband go

1021
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: down to the hotel bar and they just like have

1022
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: drinks and she's like, I mean, god forbid that one

1023
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: time though, It's like that terror would live within me.

1024
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: But like what would happen? I mean, I guess it's scary.

1025
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm sure like thirty years ago,

1026
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: I mean, oh my god, Like my mother in law

1027
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: would be having a heart attack right now. But like

1028
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: my parents, I used to my parents used to take

1029
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: us camping every year and we would be asleep in

1030
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: the cabin, all the babies, and my parents would be

1031
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: like down the row of cabins at the fire pit

1032
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: with everybody like drinking a thousand beers, roasting hot dogs,

1033
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: and we were far away in the cabin, and they're like,

1034
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: we would just hear, like you could scream, like if

1035
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: you woke up, Like you know what I mean. I

1036
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: just were so attle bit protective, protective, and we are

1037
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: always nervous of the worst scenario happening. So I'm curious

1038
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: of how other moms speaking to worst case scenario. You know.

1039
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: I know I've texted you a picture of the amount

1040
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: of medication I take to foreign countries because um, my doctor,

1041
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, he said, like, look, if you're in Hawaii,

1042
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: I can call you in a Z pack or whatever

1043
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: for the kid, but like if you're in Figiarior and

1044
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: the one of these other crazy places, like it's going

1045
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: to be more difficult. So let me just give you

1046
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: this um prescription in advance, and you have it in

1047
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: your bag and you're ready to go. So I always

1048
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: bring like some kind of antibiotic. Couldn't so smart, huge

1049
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: travel tip. I used to do that for myself when

1050
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: we would travel along, like when we went to Africa,

1051
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: I brought like or anywhere we would go, I would

1052
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 1: bring U T I medicine, travelers, diarrhea, medicine, infection, East infection, Hello,

1053
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 1: give me dice blue cans. But like I would travel

1054
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: with that stuff because you come on, we're we know,

1055
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: like you got East infection, We like know what's happening,

1056
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 1: and like I don't you know? So you don't want

1057
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: to like four days to to find a monest at

1058
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: seven that's like hundreds of years old. Um, But this

1059
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: is a great call with babies too. If you go

1060
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: to a place that it might not be easily accessible

1061
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: to you to go to your pediatrician and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm traveling to this foreign country that it might not

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Speaker 1: be so easy to get stuff. What do you recommend taking?

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Speaker 1: Can I take one antibiotic with me? Should I take

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Speaker 1: cold serap, cough syrup? Of your child's of age to

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Speaker 1: be taking that stuff exactly? My son has really bad

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Speaker 1: egg amunt so we always have like different kinds of

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Speaker 1: the hydro cortisone creams and the things that we can

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Speaker 1: have just extra. There's like an antibiotic ointment in case

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Speaker 1: one of his eximas gets infected. You know, things like

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Speaker 1: that that would be hard. And again you could go

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Speaker 1: down a crazy wormhole and go way overboard on this stuff.

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Speaker 1: So it's not really necessary in general, but um, for

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Speaker 1: places where it might be a little more off the

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Speaker 1: beaten path, I definitely recommend that. So smart. You are

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Speaker 1: my travel and friend goals guru of having amazing, awesome

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Speaker 1: kids who are world travelers like their mommy. Um, and

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Speaker 1: I hope I'm sitting here in three or four years

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Speaker 1: saying that I went to feed you with two children

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Speaker 1: and I was brave enough to do it well. Likewise,

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Speaker 1: you are an incredible traveler with your son eating already

1082
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Speaker 1: taken into such amazing places, and gosh, do all your

1083
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Speaker 1: listeners know how wonderful you are? You love you travel together,

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Speaker 1: kids together. That's our next live podcast. Yeah, come on, guys,

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Speaker 1: will live stream our travels of the plane with our

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Speaker 1: children's throwing up and watching iPads. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for being on Katie's Crib. I love you, do it,

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Speaker 1: do it, love, Thank you. Thank you guys so much

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Speaker 1: for listening and for your amazing feedback and tweets and

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Speaker 1: messages and reviews and sharing Katie's Crib with your friends

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Speaker 1: and your family. It means so so much to me,

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Speaker 1: So please keep it coming and check us out on

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