1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Strong US jobs data on Friday that added to the 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: case for more FED tightening. You have the major averages 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: added mixed, little change on Friday. Futures they're highered this morning. 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: So it's driving stocks. Let's get your set up with 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: the treating day ahead now with Lori Calvassin at the 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: HIT of US Equity Strategy, RBC Capital Markets. Laura, Happy Monday, 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us. What's in the driver's seat 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: for stocks? So look, I think that we've got an 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: amazing number of cross currents right now between the reporting season, 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: which has turned out better than feared. Investors are taking 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: some comfort in that we've got the jobs data from 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: last week, we've got said watching. I think in general 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: investors are breathing a bit of a sigh of relief 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: over those two que reporting season prints. Um, we would 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: tell you we're not entirely out of the woods from 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: a market perspective in terms of earnings right now, just 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: because if there really is a big macro slow downcoming economically, UM, 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: numbers do still need to come down. But I think 19 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: for the moment, investors are you know, just excited about 20 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: the resilience that we're seeing. Yeah, I mean by our calculations, 21 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: Almost of the S and P five phone companies that 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: have reported so far delivered positive earning surprises. You've got 23 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: to wonder if that pace is sustainable and what happens 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: to the margins. Well, what's interesting is that if you 25 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: look at the percent of companies beating consensus estimates, um, 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: we are very very strong. We are still high relative 27 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: to history. We did a cut a little more than 28 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: halfway through reporting season and found that about seventies six 29 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: percent we're beating on earnings and the average over time 30 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: was about seventy one. But we also found that we 31 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: were well above eight um you know, in recent quarters, 32 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: so that the pace is softening just a little bit. Um, 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: I'll tell you John. What's really interesting to me is 34 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: that if you look at the small cat part of 35 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: the market, the beat stats are hitting all time highs, 36 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: which is maybe one of the untold stories in this 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: reporting season. So smart that the small cats are really 38 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: the star of the show, the small comps also being 39 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: the more domestic stocks. What is the differentiation there? What 40 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: the why is that? So I think that there are 41 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 1: a few things going on. We do know that small caps, 42 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, if you look at operating margin trends do 43 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: tend to be a little bit more sensitive to labor issues. UM, 44 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: So I think it'll be interesting to see if perhaps, 45 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, we we have heard companies in recent quarters 46 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: allude to the idea that the labor market is loosening 47 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: up just a little bit. That could be translating to 48 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: the bottom line in small caps in a bigger way. 49 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: But I do think in part it's that domestic revenue exposure. 50 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: Small caps have less of that international exposure. I'm tending 51 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: to be, you know, sort of more resilient and a 52 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: stronger dollar type environment, whereas when we look at you know, 53 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: the more international SMP five hundred type because we are 54 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: hearing a lot of complaints about dollar strength, and we 55 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: are seeing a decent number of downward revisions that are 56 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: that are are based on just the currency itself. And 57 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: as the Fed continues to raise rates, the trajectory higher 58 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: the dollar also higher. How much higher do you suppose 59 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: it can go? Well, Luckily, my forecasting is limited to 60 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: the S and P five hundred UM. But but what 61 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: I will tell you is that UM, a stronger dollar, 62 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, to the 63 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: extent that it's reflecting US economic strength relative to the 64 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: rest of the world. It does actually end up being um, 65 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of a wash on our model. The 66 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: downward revisions do hurt um from that currency translation. But 67 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the sort of relative 68 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: economic strength ends up being a good thing. So there's 69 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: good and bad in the stronger dollar. Another inflation report 70 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: this week, so I'm going to ask you to forecast 71 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: that have we passed peak inflation? So our economists think 72 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: that we could see, you know, some some tough prints 73 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: for a little bit longer. And you know, they do 74 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: think the job stated that we saw last week, we'll 75 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: keep the Fed aggressive for a little bit longer um. 76 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: But in general they do think the trend on inflation 77 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: is going to start to moderate soon. We just haven't 78 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: quite gotten to the point where we're there just yet. 79 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: Does the tell you well, I was just going to 80 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: tell you, John, I personally as a strategist, I don't 81 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: you know, I don't love the high inflation prints, but 82 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: I do worry what happens to earnings when inflation moderates, 83 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: because we do tend to see a pretty strong correlation 84 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: between CPI and revenues. Does the Climate Bill, what's known 85 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: as the Inflation Reduction Act, passed by the Senate over 86 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: the weekend. Does that move the needle on stocks? You know? 87 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: To me, it's not a big game changer. We got 88 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: some questions about the stock buy back tax UM, you know, 89 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: late last week and when it became pretty clear that 90 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: this bill was going to pass UM. When I talked 91 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: to my analysts and we just did some quick checks, 92 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: we found that most of them, you know, think that 93 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: maybe their companies will grumble a little bit about this tax, 94 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: but they don't ultimately see it deterring behavior. We had 95 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: one analyst tell us that he thinks his companies are 96 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: probably going to accelerate buybacks in the short term UM, 97 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: just to sort of get ahead of the text coming 98 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: up later. But in general, I don't think it's a 99 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: big game changer. We don't have any buy back impact 100 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: baked into our earnings model for next year. Maybe it 101 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: pushes a few companies at the margins towards dividends and 102 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: benefit sectors like energy UM, but I think it's you know, 103 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: it's more interesting about it what it's signifying politically for 104 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: the mid terms. To be honest, Okay, LORI always a pleasure. 105 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: We appreciated. LORI almost seen ahead of US equity strategy, 106 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: RBC Capital Markets