1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio. Hey, 2 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, and there's Chuck 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: and Jerry's here too, lingering, which makes this stuff you 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: should know, right, And can we quickly just say a 5 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: brief thank you to everyone that came out on the 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: first three show leg of our nine show tour. Yeah, 7 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: thank you to everybody in Seattle, to everyone in Portland, yay. 8 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: Thank you to everyone in San Francisco yeehall. And that's 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: the three so far. Yeah, and they went great. I 10 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: think we were both a little nervous. Could it's been 11 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: a while And it was like putting on an old 12 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: shirt all right with a bunch of moth holes in. 13 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: It was awesome, perfectly placed. So just one nipple sticks 14 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: out through one of the Oh wow, that's what it 15 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: felt like to me. I think going out on stage 16 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: in that year, you did so good, my friend. I 17 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: was very proud of you. You were funny and engaging 18 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: and doled out the information. It was just vintage Josh. Well. 19 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: I have to say that is great to hear because 20 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: I feel the same way about your performance, which you delivered. Chuck, 21 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: you did great too. Wilson. Either one of us screwed 22 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: it up. I don't think so. No. I mean, yes, 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: both of us screwed up plenty of times, but not 24 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: the whole shebang, you know what I mean. Yeah, So, 25 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: I feel like we're really kind of overselling things. I 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: don't want everybody to come out expecting a lot based 27 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: on what we just said for the next six shows. 28 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: But we are going to be touring some more this year, 29 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: so heads up, keep an ear out for where we're 30 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: going to be. I think we've already kind of said 31 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: mostly right. Yeah, And and big thanks to everyone for 32 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: as always doing their best to keep a lid on 33 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: the topic because it's it's not like the front Door 34 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: combination to Fort Knox or anything, but it's always nice, 35 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: I think, to be surprised when you show up. Yeah, 36 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: to see the look on people's faces and they're like, 37 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, I was not expecting this. Oh my god, 38 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: that's the Pinto right, what's that? Never even heard of it? All? Right? 39 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: So on with the nap say, oh yeah, nap. So um, 40 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: I have to say, chuck. When I was researching this, 41 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: I got very very tired, and I still didn't nap. 42 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: As you know I am a non napper. Yeah, I mean, 43 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: I guess it's funny. We were talking about the tour 44 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: because on tour you probably just adrenaline and nerves and 45 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: all that stuff. You had some trouble sleeping and then 46 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: could not nap to catch up, and you know my deal, 47 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about it through the episode. But I 48 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: started taking a daily nap about probably about a year ago. 49 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: I used to you know, I called it sneaking a 50 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: nap every now and then. My whole life, i'ven't enjoyed 51 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: a nap, but then I was. I started to own it, 52 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: and which means basically, let Emily no like, hey, I'm 53 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: gonna nap and I'm not gonna feel bad about it tonight. 54 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: And she got behind it and was like, you know what, 55 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: you do better, She said, you don't get as much 56 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: sleep as I do. You do better with with like 57 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: a forty five minute lay down in the afternoon, and like, 58 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: go for it. It's great, that's awesome. So I felt 59 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: like there was something wrong with me because I couldn't nap, 60 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: because it does seem like that's something that everybody should 61 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: be able to do, especially as beneficial as it is. 62 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: But After reading this article and doing research, Ed helped 63 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: us with this one, by the way, so thanks Ed. 64 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: I've come to realize like I'm just a non napper, 65 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: probably on a genetic level. Yeah, some people just don't 66 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: nap and some people do, and there doesn't mean anyone's 67 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: right or wrong. I am good at it. I get 68 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: a lot out of it, and you're not great at it. 69 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: And who knows if you would get anything out of it? Yeah? 70 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: I know, who knows? I mean, yeah, I don't know. 71 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: Who knows. I might just wake up even worse off 72 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: than I have been before, but I really really can 73 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: try and it just does not happen. So it's just 74 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: have you ever I mean I know obviously kids nap 75 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: and stuff, but like as an adult, have you ever 76 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: ever napped? Or not? Really? I'm sure I have, but 77 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: I can't remember when, if ever, and if I if 78 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: I ever, Like my my propensity is to just stay up, 79 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: keep staying up, and then go to bed at your 80 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: normal bedtime and just try to reset everything. To me, 81 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: taking a nap is like, oh no, everything's even more 82 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: out of whack than it was before. You know, like 83 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: if you if you've missed out on a bunch of 84 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: sleep tonight before rather than taking a nap, I just 85 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: stay awake until the next sleep time and then hopefully 86 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: that everything gets back to normal. Yeah yeah, my um. 87 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: I just remember my brother in law, the Marine Corps 88 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: General is has a as you would imagine a pretty 89 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: rebbed up motor sure as a human in life, just 90 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: to accomplish things. And I live with him in a 91 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: Zona for a year and I saw him take a 92 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: nap one day and I was worried. Head up to 93 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: my sister. I was like, Michelle s Cartson, Okay, I 94 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: was like, I think we need to call somebody. Does 95 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: he take him regularly? No, not at all. So it 96 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: was it was really disconcerting to see him not awake 97 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: and like building a new deck or a swing set, 98 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: or cleaning cleaning something curiously, especially since when you lean 99 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: closer you could hear him go, this is my rifle. 100 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: Oh what a great Stanley Kubrick joke. So let's let's 101 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: talk napping. We could just sit here and share napping 102 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: anecdotes for the rest of the episode. Yeah good. I 103 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: suspect most people would be turned off by a significant portion. 104 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: Would a lot of people come for the science the statistics. 105 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: The explanation me screwing up the word statistics all that 106 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: stuff combined. That's a tough word, it is. Uh yeah, 107 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: but we should talk a little bit about sleep. We 108 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: have a quite a few episodes on sleep, but one 109 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: just on sleep and kind of the different phases. So 110 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: if you want a full, a deep dive into that, 111 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: go check that one out. But briefly we'll go over 112 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: the stages of sleep again. Right. Yeah, I mean you 113 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 1: basically have to talk about napping because spoiler alert, napping 114 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: is a type of sleep. It's just abbreviated and there's 115 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: actually a clinical definition agreed upon definition of a funny one, 116 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: I think you should take this one. A nap is 117 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: any sleep period where a duration with a duration of 118 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: less than fifty percent of the average major sleep period 119 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: of an individual. So if you sleep eight hours a 120 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: night and you took a three hour and forty five 121 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: minute sleep during the afternoon, that would be considered a nap. 122 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: That's a nap and then a weird big one. It's 123 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: odd that there's a definition out there, but it makes 124 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: sense even though everyone knows what a nap is. Yeah, So, yeah, 125 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: we need to talk about sleep because we don't actually 126 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: understand why we sleep still. It's one of the great 127 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: fascinating things about humans, and we've talked about it plenty 128 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: of times, more than in just some of our sleep episodes. 129 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: But there's theories that your brain is clearing out like 130 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: detritus and junk, that you are consolidating memories and making 131 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: new connections between memories like remember our Sleeping on It 132 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: short stuff that we released recently. Yep, we talked a 133 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: lot about that. There's basically forcing your body to lay 134 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: still so that it can repair and grow and do 135 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: all sorts of stuff. And then another another theories that 136 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: we're actually saving energy, we have less we have less 137 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: energy needs or fewer energy needs because we sleep about 138 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: six to eight or six to nine hours a day. Yeah, 139 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: and what do you get these days sleepwise? I get, oh, 140 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: usually on the nose, eight hours, maybe nine sometimes. But 141 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: you're an early riser, so you're going to bed at tennish, 142 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: tennish ninish. Okay, all right? If the beds sounding really 143 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: like comforting of eight eight thirty, I don't care. I 144 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: have nothing to prove to anyone. My life is into 145 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: it too, So no, no, no, there's the older you 146 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: get the less aim you have about just saying like 147 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to bed, everybody good exactly. Yeah, because as 148 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: as you get older, when you say it at like eight, 149 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: you like raise your fists in triumph. Right, I get 150 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: to I completed everything I needed to complete today, and 151 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: now I get to go to bed at eight thirty, right, 152 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: right right. I generally stay up later and still get 153 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: up kind of early. That's why the nap really helps 154 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: me out, because I feel like I get probably seven 155 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: and under every night. I go to bed at eleven 156 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: or twelve, and I usually get up around six thirty 157 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: or seven. Yeah, that's the best time to do it, 158 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: to get up really early. I've not been much of 159 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: a night owl for many, many years. Yeah, but the 160 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: early rising thing I really I can dig on for sure. Yeah. 161 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: I was in San Francisco actually on sort of the 162 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: big night out, which was after our Friday show when 163 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: we were completely done. Yeah, I sort of got into 164 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: it with some old friends Hodgman and some guys and 165 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: Adam Pranica and Ben Harrison and our buddies, and I 166 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: was up. Adam and I were the last ones up, 167 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: and I looked at my watch fully expecting it to 168 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: be maybe twelve forty five or one fifteen at the latest, 169 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: and it was like two forty five, and I was like, 170 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: oh boy, I'm in trouble that in a long time. Yeah, 171 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: I know, that's a feeling of dread when you go 172 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: to bed like that. And I took a legit three 173 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: hour nap the next day. Nice. Well, that's we'll get 174 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: to why that probably helped. I'm sure when you woke 175 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: up after that three hour nap you felt good. I 176 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: felt good in that I had got given my body 177 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: what it needed. But it was definitely like waking up 178 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: from real sleep like I was. I was pretty groggy. 179 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: And we'll again, we'll get into all that. Okay, So 180 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: we were talking about a tuck about the stages of 181 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: sleep are explaining sleep and sleep is divided into stages. 182 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: There's really two big ones, and then one of the 183 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: big ones can be subdivided. But you've got rapid eye 184 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: movement RIM sleep or REM sleep if you're in the 185 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: sleep biz, and then you've got non RIM sleep or 186 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: n REM, and NREM is what you can divide into 187 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: further subsections. There's stage N one, N two, and N three. 188 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: And I didn't know this chuck. But you put N one, 189 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: N two, N three followed by rim sleep. You've got 190 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: a full sleep cycle, and that you cycle through those 191 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: multiple times, five six times during a night's sleep. Did 192 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: you know that? You knew that because we've talked about it. 193 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: You just forgot it. I plumb forgot because yeah, it 194 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: seemed like brand new infoto me. Yeah, you go through 195 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: the complete cycle five or six times, and when you 196 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: start looking at the breakdown of the minutes, it makes 197 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: sense because N one is that first little light sleep stage. 198 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: It's only about five minutes per cycle. So again you 199 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: will go through that five minute stage five or six 200 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: times in a night. Yeah, and this one, you know 201 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: you'll wake up very easily from N one, whereas in 202 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: two obviously is a bit deeper. Your body is going 203 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: to be pretty much completely relaxed and into your body 204 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: temp drops, your heart rate drops, your respiration drops a 205 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: bit arousal threshold are the words ed use. That sounds 206 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: both like a band and like something dirty. That's an 207 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: album to me, not a band. Okay, well the band 208 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: would be Sleep Architecture then right, it sounds like a 209 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: roxy music album. Okay, yeah, I guess, I guess the 210 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: band would be sleep architecture. That's a good name for anything, really. Yeah, 211 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: that's a term that comes up later, but this, I'm sorry. 212 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: The N two cycle is about ten to twenty minutes 213 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: on the first run or the end two stage, and 214 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: the first cycles ten to twenty minutes, and then each 215 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: successive cycle it gets a little bit longer. Yeah, eleven 216 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: to twenty one, twelve to twenty two, probably more teen 217 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: to twenty three, right, Yeah, and then after that you've 218 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: got N three sleep, slow wave sleep. It's your arousal threshold. 219 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: It's very high, meaning it's very difficult to wake you up. 220 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: I saw that people will commonly sleep through hundred decibel 221 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: noises in N three sleep you were just out, Yeah, 222 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: and that's great. N three sleep you're getting all sorts 223 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: of like your cells are repairing themselves. You're actually literally growing, 224 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: especially if you're a younger human. Yeah, and you'll stay 225 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: in it for anywhere between twenty to forty minutes. But 226 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: it's the opposite of ND two. It gets shorter with 227 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: each cycle. There's a problem with N three sleep in 228 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: that if you wake up from N three sleep, you 229 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: are extraordinarily groggy. That grogginess can last like two to 230 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: four hours, where like you're essentially suffering a temporary cognitive impairment. 231 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: And they call it sleep inertia. It's another way to 232 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: put it, just just the grogginess from waking up at 233 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: the wrong time, and that is what happens when you 234 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: don't complete an end three cycle, but you wake up 235 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: in the N three cycle. That's where you're groggiest. Yeah, 236 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 1: what I'm curious about. And we've even had one of 237 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: these as a sponsor. I can't remember which one, but 238 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: where you'll wear like sleep bands to kind of log 239 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: how your sleep cycles are working. Yeah, do any and 240 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: the one that we use may have even had this, 241 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: I don't remember, But do any of them have an 242 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: alarm integrated well, they where they can wake you up 243 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: in the best part of your sleep, You know what 244 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I would guess, so they're probably don't think 245 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: this is like new research here, So I'm guessing that, Yeah, 246 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: if you're going to make something like that, you would 247 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: have to make it so that you wake up at 248 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: the best optimal time. I'm curious. And then the last 249 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: one is the RM sleep. This is where you're dreaming. 250 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: Of course, your brain is going to be obviously a 251 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: little more active. Your arousal threshold is even higher than 252 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: in three. But it's a bit of a paradox because 253 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: if you don't have an alarm or whatever, and you 254 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: just awake from a dream spontaneously and you've had, you know, 255 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: a regular good night's sleep, then it doesn't have the 256 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: kind of sleep inertia as in three, so you wake 257 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: up easier. Right, And I've found this to be kind 258 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: of both. When I wake up from a intense dream, 259 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: sometimes I am really out of it. But that's rare 260 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: because I'm generally a very awake waker. Right you sit 261 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: up like, oh my god, No, not quite like that. 262 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: But I've never been one that's just like, oh what, 263 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm always just like okay, I'm awake. So when you 264 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: watch movies where people wake up, you're like, that is 265 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: so fake. That's fake for me. So um, yeah, I 266 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: didn't realize that if you naturally, if when you wake 267 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: up without an alarm, which I guess it is called 268 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: a wake getting spontaneously, which makes sense. I've actually chuck, 269 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: I've got a talent here where so I'm still like 270 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: LOGI from the jet, Like for some reason, the jet 271 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: like just killed me on this West coast trip, like 272 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: I've never had it before. We might as well have 273 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: gone to Japan and come back over the weekend. It 274 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: was like pretty bad, so I'm still suffering from it. 275 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: So I woke up to my alarm. But normally, when 276 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: I have like a good level of sleep going, I 277 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: can calculate how long I have to sleep and what 278 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: time I need to wake up, and I will wake 279 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: up every time a couple minutes before my alarm goes off. Dude, 280 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: me too. I talked a bit this on our sleepep. 281 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: I have a natural alarm. If I tell myself the 282 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: night before what time I have to wake up, I'm 283 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: within like five minutes of that. That's just so cool. 284 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: And that's one of the circadian rhythms or one of 285 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: the biological rhythms that we have. We have like an 286 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: inner several inner clocks of different types, and apparently one 287 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: just as there and count it's the seconds. What a 288 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: terrible job that would be. Yeah, I mean, I haven't 289 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: used I don't think maybe some real weird outlier nights, 290 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: but I know for a fact, I haven't really used 291 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: an alarm since we did the TV show Wow and 292 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: generally never use an alarm because I just I wake up. 293 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: I'm not one of those who will just sleep the 294 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: day away. I still set my alarm on days where 295 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: we're studying recording, days where I have to get up early, 296 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: but I still usually wake up before it. So well. 297 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: Pets and human children also serve as natural alarms, either 298 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: from a pet usually like it's time to get that 299 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: morning feeding or let me out and go pee or whatever. Right, 300 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: but yeah, once you once you have a human kid, 301 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: you're you're waking when they wake right. Okay, So we 302 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: basically just explained sleep again. And the reason we did 303 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: that is because now that we know the different stages 304 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: of sleep and how long each one lasts and when 305 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: you want to wake up or don't wake up, you 306 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: can actually use this information to optimize your nap. And 307 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: I think we should take a break and then come 308 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: back and teach everybody how to optimize their naps. Let's 309 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: do it all, right, So how to Nap Better is 310 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: how Ed titled this section, which I just love that 311 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: the way that sounds in my ears. Yeah, and Ed 312 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: made up a couple of terms that he didn't tell 313 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: us until after this section that he had made up 314 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: because they sound right on the money to me, and 315 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: so we're going to go ahead and use his terminology, 316 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: and that is partial cycle naps and full cycle naps YEP. 317 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: A partial cycle nap being the power nap what people 318 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: call a disco nap or a power nap, or a 319 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: cat nap or a cat nap, and that's at ten 320 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: or twenty minute nap where officially you will or scientifically 321 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: you'll be entering into sleep, but you're waking up before 322 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: that in three sleep or the RM sleep, right, so 323 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: you're not going through a full sleep cycle, but you 324 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: still get the n one and the end too sleep. 325 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: And this seems to be, as we'll see, like the 326 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: nap that you want to take depending on what you're 327 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: trying to do. If you're catching up on sleep, a 328 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: longer nap is typically recommended. But if you're trying to 329 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: be like the most productive worker possible, then this is 330 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: what you want to do. Is a partial cycle nap 331 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: is egg calls it. And in his defense, I looked 332 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: up to see if there were any and strangely there isn't, 333 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: So there was actually a lot of room for him 334 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: to make up these terms. There was a void for 335 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: him to fill. Yeah, I think I could see the 336 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: the industry jumping on this. Sure, partial cycle NAP, full 337 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: cycle nap. It sounds very scientific. He should trademark that stuff, definitely. Well, 338 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: we'll email him before this comes out so we can 339 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: get it in the works. Make some money off a 340 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: big mattress. So there are some studies here and there. 341 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: We're going to mention there are lots of nap studies 342 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: and sleep studies and they're not the most consistent across 343 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: the board. So kind of the net net of all 344 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: of this is, like we kind of mentioned at the beginning, 345 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: we tease it out. You know, some people can nap 346 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: and get a lot out of it and some people don't. 347 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: And there isn't a definitive study that says like everyone 348 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: should do this or not do that. It can help 349 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: certain people, for sure. It seems like study wise and 350 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: data wise, the partial cycle nap, the twenty minute or 351 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: so nap is the one with the most measurable benefits. Yeah, 352 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: there was one study I I didn't see where it 353 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: was from, but they found that the ten minute nap 354 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 1: is actually ideal. Get out of my face with that. 355 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: What is that ten minutes that's not even a nap, 356 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: I know. But apparently the ten minute nap showed that 357 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: there was a reduced sleepiness, increased mental ability, and that 358 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: people tended to have a better memory consolidation just after 359 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: a ten minute nap, and that it was even better 360 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: than a twenty minute nap in this one study. Here's 361 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: the thing. There are a lot of sleep stays out there, 362 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: and a lot of them contradict one another's findings, but 363 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: there does seem to be enough studies that some you know, 364 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: fairly definitive answers have risen to the top, and it 365 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: seems to be that ten minutes is a pretty sweet 366 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: spot twenty minute. Sometimes I will say this, I have 367 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: worked in I've developed the ability to take a super 368 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: super short nap if that's the only thing I can 369 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: do that day, Because some days you just can't do it, 370 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: you know. I try to build it into my schedule 371 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: and I it's pretty much successfully have, But sometimes life 372 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: happens and you just can't do it, and I'm really 373 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: tired in the afternoon, and I've developed the ability to 374 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: lay down and sleep for like eight or ten minutes, 375 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: and I do feel super refreshed. So you lay down. 376 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: You're not one of those people that can just nap anywhere. 377 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I can nap on a plane, but I don't, 378 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: like I'm not at the old man stage yet where 379 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: I'm sitting up right in a chair, right, I get horizontal. 380 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: You reminded me of Japanese school kids. In Japan, if 381 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: you ride the subway, like almost all of them will 382 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: just fall asleep, sitting up and just be on the subway, 383 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it's their stop, and 384 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 1: they just stand up and walk off the subway like 385 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: just they're sleeping and now they're not, They're walking off 386 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: the subway. It's really impressive. But they apparently can sleep 387 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: absolutely anywhere. Well as if you can sleep on the subway, 388 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: and I like ten in the morning, you can sleep anywhere. 389 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: You know. Well, I was gonna say trains and boats 390 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: and modes of transport can kind of lull people to sleep, 391 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: but I think Japanese subways are known for being fairly crowded. 392 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 1: They are crowded, very loud. But I mean, also, like, 393 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: how do they know it's their stop? Like that's just amazing. 394 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: That is pretty great. I love that. Yeah, I mean too, 395 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: So next we've got the full cycle nap, Chuck, And 396 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: that's one that's I mean basically not a partial cycle NAP. 397 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: The goal here is to make it through ND one, 398 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: end two, and end three and then into rim sleep 399 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: because remember rim sleep is where we normally naturally wake up, 400 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: so you're not nearly as groggy as if you woke 401 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: up and three sleep. The problem is it's really difficult 402 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: to pinpoint your individual sleep cycles. Like even if you 403 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: did a sleep study, if you start new medication, if 404 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: you age as most people do, there's all sorts of 405 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: different factors, how much sleep you had the night before, 406 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,479 Speaker 1: you put all that together and whatever that sleep studies 407 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: said you your sleep cycles go through, like the time 408 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: or length of each one that can be altered, but 409 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: you're you're trying to guess essentially what you would what 410 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: it takes you to go through a full cycle one 411 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: sleep cycle and Ed suggests starting with sixty minutes and 412 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: then depending on whether you're groggy or not when you 413 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: wake up, like moving it downward or upward, but usually 414 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: they're between forty five and ninety minutes. Yeah, and this 415 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: is what I shoot for, but it's never over an hour. 416 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: It's what I'll usually do is set the timer for 417 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: an hour, and I will wake up naturally about forty 418 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: five minutes later. That's pretty neat. Yeah, I rarely make it. Well, 419 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: that's not true. Sometimes I make it to that full hour, 420 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: but never beyond that because just there's too much going 421 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: on in life for me to go longer than an hour. 422 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: But if you know, if you need that ninety minutes, 423 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: I mean they say that you're if you can get 424 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: to that RM stage, you know you're going to have 425 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: the benefits of waking up without the grogginess. But like 426 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: you said, it's it's complicated unless you really have done us, 427 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: either done us leap study or just super in sync 428 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: with where you think your cycles are. Yeah, but I mean, 429 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: if you really want to become like a pro napper, 430 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: you could do worse than saying like, I'm going to 431 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: take this week or the next two weeks to study 432 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: my deep cycles and yeah, start with sixty minutes and 433 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: adjust it from there. Yeah, I think that's respectable. Anybody 434 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: who takes themselves that, I guess seriously, I don't know 435 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: where they're like, I'm going to improve my life and 436 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to do it scientifically. I appreciate that. I 437 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: think that's cool. Well, I talked to my friend Eddie 438 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: into napping semi recently. Huh with you like then a 439 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: friend's episode, come over and have a guttle I would 440 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: do that. I'm sure Eddie's a great spooner. But he 441 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: got on board, and the last I heard from him, 442 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: he was like, I'm doing it now, built it into 443 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: my day and it's like made a huge difference. Wow. Yeah. 444 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, even though I know I'm not a nap or, 445 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm still a little envious. So please stop talking about 446 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: how great it is. Okay, it's so great. So there's 447 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: another nap you can take two that's supposedly, from what 448 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: I can tell, the ideal nap. Yeah, it's called a 449 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: coffee nap, and it's not a ten minute napisode a 450 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: ninety minute nap. It's a twenty minute nap and it's 451 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: sounds kind of awesome. But basically, you drink a cup 452 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: of coffee. Ostensibly, this is the only coffee you've drank, 453 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: or at least your morning coffee has long worn off 454 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: by now, so you're basically at your set point for 455 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: caffeine and take. You drink a cup of coffee, you 456 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: go lay down and you go to sleep, and then 457 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: twenty minutes later, after the caffeine has entered your bloodstream 458 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: and started to take effect, you wake up. But not 459 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: only do you just wake up like, oh, I've got 460 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: some caffeine, Like, there's a whole bunch of neurochemistry going 461 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: on that really makes this coffee nap something special. Yeah, 462 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: this sounds like a great nap for if you're doing 463 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: a long road trip and you're you're smart enough to 464 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: pull over and take a little rest stop nap, drink 465 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: the coffee, and then you're you're up. You start that 466 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: car back up, and you're fired up and ready to 467 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: hit the road again. Right. So the reason why it works, Chuck, 468 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: is because of aDNA scene. That's a neurochemical, it's a neurotransmitter, 469 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: and one of the things a DNA sing does is 470 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: it tells your body that you're tired. The thing is 471 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: is caffeine can attach to aDNA sine receptors, So when 472 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: there's less places for your aDNA scene to attach, there's 473 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: less chance for those ADENA scene molecules to tell your 474 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: body that you're tired. So not only do you have 475 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: the benefits of waking up with the cafe, like the 476 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 1: whole caffeinated energy boost, You're feeling less tired because the 477 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: caffeine has literally like elbowed out. Yeah, well maybe not 478 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: literally elbowed, but you know what I mean. Sure, this 479 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: chemical that makes you feel tired. So it's like the 480 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: best of both worlds put together. Yeah, and not only that, 481 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: but if you're in too sleep, you're going to be 482 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: flushing a DNA scene in that stage from your brain. 483 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: So that's just going to open up more garage space 484 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: for the caffeine to come park. And you're just, yeah, 485 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: it sounds pretty great. I'm not the biggest caffeine guy. 486 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: Caffeine I will have sometimes in the winter, as you know, 487 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: I'll have like lattes and stuff. It's like a cold 488 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: weather thing for me, sure, but always it always makes 489 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: me excessively tired after. Like, the caffeine come down for 490 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: me is pretty pretty big. Right. That used to be 491 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: the same for me, but now I'm just so used 492 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: to it I don't even notice, right. Yeah, there is 493 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: something that I have noticed, though, I think everybody's noticed, 494 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: which is the post lunch dip. Yeah, that's what I 495 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: take mine. Yes, Okay, So This actually makes a lot 496 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 1: of sense because there's entire cultures that are dedicated to 497 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: napping during the post lunch dip. But there is a 498 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: is a period, and apparently it's not due to having 499 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: lunch or a big lunch. It's just a natural period 500 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: of sleepiness that humans tend to experience in the middle 501 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: of the day, the early afternoon about for about three 502 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: hours from early to mid afternoon. It's called the post 503 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: post lunch dip. And a lot of people just say, hey, 504 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm taking a nap right now. And they have found 505 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: that there's actually an optimal time to take a nap 506 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: in an optimal length. And it sounds like if you 507 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: took a coffee nap at this time, you would wake 508 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: up with some sort of superpowers in that time. Drumroll please? 509 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: Is what two pm? Right? Yeah, it's just fourteen hours 510 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: two pm. Your brother in law would know. So, yeah, 511 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: the twenty minute nap. And these were studies and researchers 512 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,239 Speaker 1: have done, like you know, looked over the metadata of 513 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: lots of studies, and they found that a twenty minute 514 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: nap at two pm produced greater and longer lasting benefits 515 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: to mood, fatigue, objective performance, self rated performance and objective 516 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: alertness compared to that same nap at noon. Yeah, so 517 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: there you have it, if you ask me, Like we've 518 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: just told everybody, if you're going to take a nap, 519 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: this is when and how to do it. Yeah, go 520 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: forth and sleep at that. Cista agreed. So, Chuck, we're 521 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: not through with the DNA scene yet. Now we're not. 522 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: Should we take a break? I think we should take 523 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: a break, and then we're going to talk more about 524 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: a DNA scene. All right, I'm gonna have a two 525 00:29:32,040 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: minute nap and I'll be right back. Okay, I mentioned 526 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: a DNA scene, said we weren't done with it, and 527 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: by god I was telling the truth, because there's a 528 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: whole other segment about a DNA scene that I find 529 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: just absolutely fascinating, and that is that it's essentially like 530 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: almost a mechanical um What am I thinking of, Chuck, 531 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. So it's almost like, okay, it's it's 532 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: almost like a little bit, but more like you have 533 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: like a tray, and the tray is on like a scale, 534 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: like a balancing scale, but attached to that scale is 535 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: like a stick, and when enough, a DNA scene builds 536 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: up on that tray and the scale that stick goes up, 537 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: and yes, it throws a switch and all of a 538 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: sudden for you, it's lights out, that's right. So sort 539 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: of the takeaway from this is the longest it's a 540 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: byproduct of cell cheese, cellular breakdown of the energy that 541 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: you use. So the longer you're awake and the more 542 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: active you are, the more a DNA scene you're gonna have. 543 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: And again that's your body saying you're tired. So it 544 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: sounds obvious like, hey, if you're a wake longer and 545 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: you're working harder, you're going to be more tired. Sure, 546 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: but that's how it works. But this is why. There's 547 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: actually a reason why, and it's because the DNA sne 548 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: builds up in your in your body, and a DNA 549 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: scene is part of that currency that all cells us 550 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: as energy ATP a DNA scene triphosphate. Yeah, And it's 551 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: it's just so neat that it's like it's part of 552 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: this energy package. And then once that energy package is 553 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: broken open and the energy is removed from it, what's 554 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: left over builds up. This ADENA scene builds up and 555 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: then makes you tired. And then when you're sleeping a 556 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: DNA scene is cleared out, which which which stage was 557 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 1: it in? Three? Well, I think if you have a 558 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: lot of a DNA scene, meaning you were up longer 559 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: and you're super tired, you're going to be deeper and 560 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: N three and r mum, But I don't know where 561 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: it's cleared out, but that that is a theory that Um, 562 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: if you wake up in your groggy, then you didn't 563 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: clear out enough of the ADENA scene, right. But if 564 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: you do get a good night's sleep and your body 565 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: goes through its normal stages and cycles, um, aDNA scene 566 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: is cleared from your body, and after it reaches a 567 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: certain threshold, you wake up because that tells your body 568 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: that you're gonna start to need some more energy soon. 569 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: So wake up, dummy and start eating brain flakes. Right. 570 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I love it, like you know it again, 571 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: it's intuitive, but it's always it's always kind of I 572 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: think empowering to know like what's going on in your body. Yeah, okay, yes, 573 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: it is intuitive, like you're but to to say this 574 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: is the thing that's doing it when it rises or 575 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: raises and lowers, I just for some reason I can't 576 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: put my finger on I am just enthralled by it. 577 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: I wonder if that would help you nap knowing the 578 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: function behind it. That's a lot of people. Well, they 579 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: proposed a DNA scene as like a sleep aid, but 580 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: the problem is is you have ADENA scene receptors all 581 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: over your body, including your heart, and it can actually 582 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: affect your heart's rhythm. And they're like, you don't want 583 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: to mess with your heart's rhythm using a DNA scene, 584 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: so it's not worth it as a sleep aid. Oh 585 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: that's they've synthesized it. Yeah. Yeah, Actually, if you go 586 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: to your doctor and they put it, put you through 587 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: a chemical stress test, they're introducing a DNA scene into 588 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: your system. And then what's the other thing. They actually 589 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: use it to correct a regular heartbeat too, So it's 590 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: a powerful heart squeezer. Okay, so were you my friend? 591 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: Thank you? Thank you. So now we're at the point 592 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: where we kind of go over whether or naps are 593 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: good for you, And again I've kind of already ruined that, Like, sure, 594 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: they can be great for your functioning if they work 595 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: for you and your memory and your alertness and your 596 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: your recall and things like that, if they work for you, 597 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,479 Speaker 1: but they aren't for everyone. They will if you're not 598 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: getting enough sleep, Like if you're doing it because you 599 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: have a sleep deficit, then it will for sure improve 600 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: your performance and help out. And I think the long, 601 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: full cycle nap is probably what you want if it's 602 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: just one of those deals where you just didn't get 603 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: enough sleep last night because of one reason or another 604 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: and you need something more. But like Ed said, this 605 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: is more like, hey, this is sort of an emergency 606 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: thing and need this nap. Right. The thing is is 607 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: there does seem to be benefits from people like you 608 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: who take naps as part of their everyday routine. And 609 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just like I'm missing out 610 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: on those benefits or I just don't need a nap 611 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: to have those benefits. Who knows. But they have shown 612 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: that people who are even well rested who take regular 613 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: naps show consistent benefits like an improved mood, reduced impulsiveness, 614 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: you're better able to deal with frustrating situation, that's meat 615 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: to a t yeah, for sure. And what's funny enough 616 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: is I'm the opposite of that, So maybe I should 617 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: start napping. And they also improve performance on memory tasks, right, So, 618 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: and this is from people who are getting plenty of 619 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: sleep during the night but still take a nap during 620 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: the day. That's pretty impressive. Yeah, on the downside, and 621 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: you knew there would be one, Dear listener, but there 622 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 1: have been and I don't think that they've like proven 623 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: direct links, but there have been some correlative is that 624 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: the word. Yeah, I think so correlative links between regular 625 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: naps and the length of naps if you are elderly, 626 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: and things like dementia and heart disease. Yeah, they've shown 627 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: that napping for more than an hour every day was 628 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: tied to a forty percent greater chance of developing Alzheimer's 629 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: disease among older people. And they're like, Okay, well that's 630 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: pretty scary. But they haven't figured out whether that's a 631 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: symptom of developing Alzheimer's or it's actually a contributing factor 632 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: to developing Alzheimer's. Either way, that's definitely something to chew on. Yeah, 633 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: like I wonder I'm very sort of dementia aware lately, 634 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: not for myself or anything like that, just you know, 635 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: it's it's come up quite a bit with like friends 636 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: and family in recent years. As you get to be 637 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: our age and our parents get older, like everyone starts 638 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: to face those things in your family. So I'm just 639 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 1: very aware of, like, all right, keeping the brain sharp, 640 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: not just settling down until like, of course we're not 641 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: retired or anything, but one day when if that eventually happens, 642 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: your tongue stings. Al that hurts staying active brain wise. 643 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 1: And you know, Emily's dear grandmother Mary, he just passed 644 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: away at one on one was up until the last 645 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: year where you know, she had the stroke and things 646 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: like really went south. Was she was just a word 647 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: puzzles all day and saduko and or sadoku which is 648 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 1: it sidoku and crosswords? And did not just fall into 649 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: that routine that I think so many folks as they 650 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: get some age on them do, which is you sit 651 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: around and watch TV. Because that is that's a just 652 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: a prolonged slow death sentence. Basically, Yeah, sitting around watching 653 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: TV is not a good way to keep sharp. No, 654 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: not at all. So anyway, a long way of saying, 655 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: I had just been thinking a lot more about dementia 656 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: over the last few years, and I'm like, well, you know, 657 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: maybe one day I'm gonna have to give up this 658 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 1: this nap. Yeah, maybe, But I mean this was an 659 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: hour or longer every single day, and it was just 660 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: a forty percent greater chance. So you're probably fine, thanks buddy. 661 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: So we were talking about you possibly being a natural 662 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: born napper and how I am not. They have actually 663 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: done genome wide associated studies where they survey hundreds of 664 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: thousands of people to ask them, you know, hey, do 665 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: you nap every day? How long do you nap for? 666 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: Do you nap sometimes? Rarely, never? And then they look 667 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,720 Speaker 1: at those respondents genomes, their entire genomes, they scan them, 668 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: and then they look for commonalities. And from doing those 669 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: kinds of studies, they found one hundred and twenty three 670 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: different regions in the genome that are associated with daytime napping. 671 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: I have zero of them, really, they I'm sure I did. 672 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: I haven't. Actually I have had my genome scan, but 673 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what if I have them or not, 674 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: I would I would assume not. But that raises the 675 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: question like are humans designed to nap? Are we genetically 676 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: programmed to nap? Or not? And I feel like the 677 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: fact that some people seem to be genetically predisposed to 678 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: it and other people not. There's your answer right there. 679 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: I think some and some not, but I don't think 680 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: it appears to be a through trait that humans all 681 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: had at one point, right, you know, And you can 682 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: kind of come up with the answer by comparing us 683 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: to other other groups. Yeah, Like I think the idea 684 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 1: is that did we is this modern life that we 685 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 1: live where we go to work for forty plus hours 686 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,439 Speaker 1: or so and we're up during the day and we're 687 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: doing things like did we force that upon ourselves or 688 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,439 Speaker 1: were we supposed to have evolved differently? And it really 689 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: doesn't seem that way. It seems like kind of the 690 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: other way around, like circadian rhythm wise, that humans were 691 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 1: probably evolved to sleep at night over a reasonable you know, 692 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: period of time and then do things during the day 693 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: during the daylight. That just kind of makes sense. Yeah, 694 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: And if you look if you say, well, what about 695 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: some of our evolutionary cousins like primates. If you look 696 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 1: at primates, some sleep during the day, others don't. If 697 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 1: you look at hunter gatherer society, some sleep during the day, 698 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 1: others don't. And then culturally speaking as well, some cultures do, 699 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 1: others don't. Like you know, Spanish and Latin American cultures 700 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: are famous for taking siestas and apparently that is not 701 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: some sort of genetically ingrained thing that was originally something 702 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: that they did during their agrarian days to escape, to 703 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 1: take a break from the hottest hours of the sunshine. Yeah. Sure, 704 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: and then I mean you're just sitting around hanging out 705 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: after you've just eaten lunch, the chances are you're probably 706 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: going to fall asleep. But that's not the case with 707 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: all cultures who are exposed to heavy sunshine during the 708 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: daylight hours either. It just seems to have kind of 709 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: developed among some cultures. And by the way, the Spanish 710 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: are trying to abandon that. Yeah, it has a real 711 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: detrimental effect. My friends Laurel and Braden lived in Spain 712 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: for a little while and they came back and they're like, 713 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: that's siesta, man, it's a killer because everything just stops 714 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: for a little while, an hour or two hours, and 715 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 1: then to make up for it, they end up working 716 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: until like seven eight at night every night. It's interesting. Yeah, 717 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: and for weirdly, the society, the modern version of like 718 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: Spanish society, is still trying to figure out how to 719 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 1: reconcile the tune. What they finally come up with is like, 720 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: we're just we should not be doing this anymore. Oh, 721 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: they should do the Chuck method, which is nap and 722 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: don't work until eight o'clock at night. There you go, 723 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: there's your solution, Spain. Yeah, people work too much. Yeah, 724 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: for sure, you know, for sure, Chuck, they do. I 725 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 1: know that. The sad thing is is you have to 726 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: to keep up these days. I know. All right, let's 727 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 1: not get into that right now, I know. So that's 728 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: it for naps. Everybody, go forth and test yourself. Maybe 729 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: try a coffee nap and see how that does. You 730 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 1: go from there? And since I said coffee nap, it's 731 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: time for listener man, all right, I'm gonna call this honey. 732 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it. What was in the subject line, 733 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: Honey saved my pooch's leg. Nice And this is from 734 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: Travis will Grin in Texas, and accompanied were some pretty 735 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: gnarly pictures because Travis's dog got bit by a rattlesnake yow. 736 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,919 Speaker 1: So here we go. Hey, guys, just wanted to drop 737 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: a line and tell you how Honey saved my dog's leg. 738 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: A long story short. My three year old chocolate lab 739 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: Scout got bit on his back leg by a timber 740 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: rattle snake here in Texas three days and five vials 741 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 1: of anti ven and later the necrosis had stopped, but 742 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,879 Speaker 1: they were worried that his joint was compromised and wanted 743 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: to amputate. Being a paramedic, I knew of honey for 744 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: wound care, so we took him to our local backwoods 745 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: vet did wound care, changing the bandage every two days, 746 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: putting Manuka honey only on the wound, and within two 747 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: months his leg was healed up with no adverse effects 748 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: and he's now a happy pup and attached or some 749 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: pictures look at your own risk. Also, we just relocated 750 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,479 Speaker 1: the snake because it wasn't his fault, just a snake 751 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: being a snake. Wow. And that is Travis Wilgrin. And 752 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:09,240 Speaker 1: there was one, two, three, four pictures of the initial 753 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: wound that was really hard to look at, and then 754 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: getting better, better, better, and then two very happy, sleepy 755 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 1: dogs and then a rattlesnake with his neck pin to 756 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: the ground by you know, someone who knows how to 757 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 1: do that kind of thing. So as a gift to you, 758 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 1: I printed them all out like quality photo papers or 759 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: made you a collage. Maybe that could in the wallpaper 760 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: my bedroom. Thanks Travis, that was an amazing story. I 761 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: haven't seen the pictures yet, but I will probably be 762 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: looking at them later. Yeah. Check it out. If you 763 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: want to be like Travis and share an amazing story 764 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: about something we've talked about. We love hearing about those things. 765 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: You can send it in the email to Stuff podcast 766 00:43:54,840 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 1: at iHeartRadio dot com. Stuff you Should Know is a 767 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts my heart Radio, visit 768 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to 769 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: your favorite shows.