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Speaker 1: Hi. I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are

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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? All right, everybody, Hello, Hello, Hi, Hi,

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Speaker 1: we are here. We are going to just do a

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Speaker 1: little bit more recapping. We just talked to the lovely

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Speaker 1: and intelligent Clark Greg who was really, really fun. He's

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Speaker 1: in this episode. This episode is called Don't Ask, Don't Tell.

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Speaker 1: It aired in two thousand, the year two thousand and

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Speaker 1: it is such a massive, massive episode written by Cindy Shupack,

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Speaker 1: directed by Daniel Grant. So we're just going to recap

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Speaker 1: a little bit more because so many things happen and

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Speaker 1: I just didn't want to skip over any of them.

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Speaker 1: So first of all, let's talk Charlotte and Trey. So,

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Speaker 1: as I'm rewatching this episode, I did not remember it.

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Speaker 1: In the so many things that I did not remember,

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Speaker 1: Like what I remember most is the wedding itself. You know,

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Speaker 1: it was such a long, long day and everyone fell

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Speaker 1: asleep but me and I was so happy and running

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Speaker 1: around and Kyle was so adorable, and I remember being

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Speaker 1: so incredibly stressed about how I had to tell Carrie

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Speaker 1: that he couldn't get it up, that Trey couldn't get

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Speaker 1: it up because that was kind of like this big,

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Speaker 1: you know moment where we had been, you know, wondering

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Speaker 1: and waiting. I also completely forgot that I get drunk

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Speaker 1: in like the night before. It's also weird because I

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Speaker 1: thought we went out and I wore like a like

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Speaker 1: a tirro like bride's maid thing or whatever, like a

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Speaker 1: what do you call it, like a veil, like how

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Speaker 1: women do when they're going to get married. I thought

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Speaker 1: that we had done that. Like I have so many

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Speaker 1: different ideas in my head than what we actually did.

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Speaker 1: I thought that we all go out for like the

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Speaker 1: night before, like a bachelorette party or whatever, but we don't.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting. I do Charlotte managed somehow to get drunk,

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Speaker 1: which is interesting also, but no one else really seemed

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Speaker 1: a restaurant or a coffee shop. I don't understand what

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Speaker 1: happened in this plot, meaning why doesn't Charlotte have a

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Speaker 1: bachelorette party? And in my mind I did, but clearly

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Speaker 1: the episode. And I'm wearing this really adorable sparkly sweater,

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Speaker 1: which I think I still own. Which is also weird.

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Speaker 1: And then and I'm you know, kind of obviously tipsy

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Speaker 1: and talking about how I'm going to finally get to

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Speaker 1: have sex with my you know, hot fiance slash you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember any of it, right, not one little bit. Oh,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't also remember the rehearsal dinner. And it's

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Speaker 1: cute because they're all over there at that other table,

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Speaker 1: Like why did I see them so far away from me?

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Speaker 1: It's so interesting. There's so many interesting things going on,

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Speaker 1: and they talk about how happy I am, and I think, yes,

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Speaker 1: So then we cut to in the Charlotte universe, we

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Speaker 1: that was fine. And I don't think she thinks that

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00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 1: he's going to think it's fine. But I also don't

428
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: think that she expects him to literally look like if

429
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 1: you just ran over his dog, which I think is

430
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: what he looks like. Like he just looked so sad

431
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: and it's crushing. It's just so crushing. And he's so good.

432
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean, my goodness, she's so good. So then of

433
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: course she tells him right before the wedding, which you know,

434
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: maybe not the best timing, but whatever. He comes to

435
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: pick her up for the wedding wearing a kind of

436
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 1: a really large suit that I do want to talk

437
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: to Mollie Rogers about, Like, why is he wearing this

438
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 1: really large, untailored suit. It's interesting, but Hannah's brown, you know,

439
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: it's a big brown, floppy suit. It's interesting. I do

440
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: guess it was kind of the times. It is kind

441
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: of nineties ish, right. Anyway, we're gonna talk to Molly

442
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 1: about that. But he comes to pick her up in

443
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 1: the big brown suit, and she confesses, and then he

444
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 1: says that he's got to go and that she should

445
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 1: give us the gift, which is kind of sad, and

446
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: then she has to go. You know, she's late obviously

447
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: to the wedding, because we're all standing there ready to

448
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 1: walk down the aisle, so she doesn't even have time

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00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: to tell anybody. But oh wait, no, she doesn't tell.

450
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: She doesn't tell anybody until he shows up outside the

451
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 1: gate and they have their really sad scene where she

452
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 1: cries into his chest and he cries into her hair.

453
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: And I was very worried about her bun. I was like,

454
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: Corba's gonna mess that bun up and someone's going to

455
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 1: have to fix it. But they make it through. That's

456
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: because he's so tall. But it's really sad. It's really

457
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: really sad. He says. I just wish I didn't know

458
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: about this. I just know myself. This isn't the kind

459
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: of thing I can get over. I just need to

460
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 1: be on my own for a while. And then he

461
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: kind of mutters again, like be on my own. I

462
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: really loved you. Oh it's so painful. It's so painful,

463
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: and of course she just feels horrible, horrible, Like we

464
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: don't really see Carrie cry that often. We'll see her

465
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: get emotional and look like she might cry, but she

466
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: doesn't actually cry, like how she cries here very often

467
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: at all, like in the Hole until the movies. Basically

468
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, though we're going to see as

469
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: we watch the show, but she doesn't do it very often,

470
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,239
Speaker 1: and I thought it was really, really so sad, and

471
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: she did it so beautifully. And then she goes up

472
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: to take the pictures with all of us. She tells

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Speaker 1: Miranda because Miranda's you know, can see that she's upset,

474
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: and they come. The two of them join Samantha and

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00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 1: I to take the picture, and I'm, of course oblivious,

476
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: and she kind of like hides her face while she's

477
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: collecting her tears, and then her voiceover says that it's

478
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: amazing to be loved for who you really are, and

479
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: I was so lucky that I had found three people

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00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,959
Speaker 1: who loved me like that, and it's us, which is

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00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: a beautiful, beautiful ending to such a great episode. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk just a little bit more about Miranda too, because

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00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: this episode, this storyline, I really really loved, and I

484
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: didn't remember one single bit of it. I do remember

485
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,479
Speaker 1: the time in New York that people would do this

486
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,479
Speaker 1: crazy speed dating thing, and I remember thinking it was

487
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: fully insane, and I do think that our writers did it,

488
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: and I don't know if they did it for research

489
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: or if they just had already done it for regular life,

490
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: but it was a real thing. You'd go and you'd

491
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: sit down and there was a little timer and you

492
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: would talk to some guy for whatever it was, five minutes,

493
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: seven minutes, and then they would move and then you

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00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: talk to the next one. It just seems so insane.

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Speaker 1: But when you actually think about what the apps are,

496
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: they're very similar. They're just not face to face, right,

497
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: Like it was a precursor to the apps which we're

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00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: all living in now. Of course, So the fact that

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00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: Miranda can tell by the look on all these guys'

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00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: faces that she needs to lie and say she's not

501
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: a lawyer, Oh my god, it's just still so true.

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00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I do think there are really successful guys

503
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: out there who if you said I went to Harvard

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00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: and I'm a partner in my law firm, I think

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00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: they'd be totally into it. I mean, I'm going to

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00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: hope that that's true. I'm pretty sure it is. I

507
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: don't know if it's every guy though, right, And I

508
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: think it would depend on what that guy was doing

509
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: in life and what that guy pictured for his life, right,

510
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: Like does he picture a powerful wife where they're going

511
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: to be like a power couple, you know, like share

512
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: their the powerfulness, the success, the you know, intense work life,

513
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: or is it somebody who doesn't want that? Right? And

514
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: so Miranda pretty much decides that the group of guys

515
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: who's at the speed dating thing, they don't want that.

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00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: And I think that that's still really true. There's a

517
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: whole bunch of guys who do not want that. So

518
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: she really smartly decides to lie to this adorable guy, Harris,

519
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: who says that he's an er doctor. So she tells

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00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: him that she's a stewardess, which is hysterical. And then

521
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: when they go out, she wears this whole outfit. She

522
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: wears this scarf around her neck, and her hair is poofy.

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00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: And then when they get home and they have sex,

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00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: she's got like a flowery bra on. I don't we

525
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 1: have ever seen Miranda in a flowery bra It's really funny.

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00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 1: It's like she came over to Charlotte's and she borrowed

527
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: some stuff to pretend that she was a stewardis. So

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00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: she also has many funny things she says to try to,

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00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: you know, make her her part believable. You know, she

530
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: says at one point that she's in charge of the

531
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: inflatable slide, but then in reality, if a real emergency happen,

532
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: it's every man for themselves or something. She's very funny,

533
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: very very funny, and Clark is so funny as this

534
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: guy who's saying he's an er doctor. But then in

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00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: the morning she actually asks him to my wedding, which

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00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: I was so excited when I was watching. I was like, Oh,

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00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: Clark Gregg, It's come to my wedding. How great. I

538
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: don't remember him there. Well, that's because he didn't make it.

539
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: Because the morning of the wedding, she's cutting a bagel

540
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: and you can tell that this is going to happen

541
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: because they do a close up of her just recklessly

542
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: sawing at this bagel with this knife, and of course

543
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: she cuts herself and she, you know, goes to the

544
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: man she thinks he is an er doctor who happens

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00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: to be in her kitchen, and she's like, oh, it's

546
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: really bad, and he's like, ah, don't put it in

547
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 1: my face, and she says, what do you mean you're

548
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: an er doctor, and he has to confess that no,

549
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: in fact, he is not an er doctor. He is

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00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: an assistant manager at the Athlete's Foot which is just painful. Okay,

551
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's pretty bad. And then I thought she

552
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: was really going to confess back and that they could

553
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: have had like a shared experience of lying about what

554
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: they did for a living. But she doubles down. She

555
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: doubles down, and she says something like really cutting, like

556
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: she hopes he's never on her flight, and then he says, well,

557
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: it probably wouldn't be in first class. He looks really sad,

558
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: like a little doggy that you've been mean to, and

559
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: she says, yeah, you wouldn't be in first class. And

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00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: she's very haughty about it, like in her pretense stewardess manner.

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00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: And then the good news is she takes Stanford to

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00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: my wedding, which is great because I do remember Willie

563
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: being there, which is wonderful because he's always really funny

564
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: and he got us through the long day of Charlotte's

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00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: wedding long day or days anyway. I just love Clark

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00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: Greg and I really feel like I feel like it

567
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: would have been great if they could have both confessed

568
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: that they were both lying. But I also think it

569
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: would have been great if she'd run into him again,

570
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: like on the street or something in the future and

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00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: they could have somehow gotten over it because he has

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00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: such a great like I think he has such an

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00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: intelligent presence and also funny like he's got a little

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00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: like twinkle in his eye all the time. Clark Gregg

575
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: as an actor where you're just like, what's the up to?

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00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: What's the up to? I like that about him. He

577
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: was a great He was a great casting. We have

578
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: so many great guys, obviously, but he's great, great, great casting,

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Speaker 1: and I wish we'd had him for more episodes. All right,

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Speaker 1: So that's it for our recap of Don't Ask, Don't Tell,

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Speaker 1: which is a great episode. Thanks you guys for being

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Speaker 1: with me for both parts. Let me know your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Come over to our Instagram. I love to see you

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00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: guys his comments. Are you a Charlotte podcast. That's us

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00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: on Instagram and you guys can can comment there. Tell

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00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: me your thoughts about this episode. I do know that

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00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: I think Cynthia has always said this is one of

588
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: our favorite episodes, and I really was like, wow, yeah,

589
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: this is one of our best episodes. I think this

590
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: is when one of the first episodes where we really

591
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: have almost more drama than humor. In one particular episode,

592
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: and I think it's because we're getting more confident in

593
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,239
Speaker 1: our long term story arcs and where we've gone with

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00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: you know, the Aiden Carrie big situation, and also kind

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00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: of playing out Charlotte's storyline more than like one one

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00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: day episode. So it's having like the payoff of that

597
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: investment is really happening now, which I love to see.

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00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: It's great, it's great, and it's great to see that

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00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: we have the enough confidence to go there as actors.

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Speaker 1: You know. Anyway, I love this episode. Thanks for joining me, Hi,